Bach - Viola da gamba sonata no. 2 in D major BWV 1028 - Van der Velden | Netherlands Bach Society

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  • From the very first notes, it is clear that Bach wrote the Sonata for viola da gamba in D major, performed here by Mieneke van der Velden and Benjamin Alard for All of Bach, for a top-level gambist. The most likely candidate was the fourteen-year-old Carl Friedrich Abel, a promising gambist who went to study at the Thomasschule in Leipzig in 1737. Under Bach’s wing, he grew into an outstanding musician and composer. Although we cannot be certain, Carl Friedrich’s close ties with Bach and his great talent make him the ideal candidate performer of this sonata.
    For more information on BWV 1028 and credits of this production go to www.bachvereniging.nl/en/bwv/...
    For the interview with gamba player Mieneke van der Velden on Sonata for gamba in D major go to • Van der Velden on Bach...
    Recorded for the project All of Bach on March 1st 2015 at Paushuize, Utrecht. If you want to help us complete All of Bach, please subscribe to our channel bit.ly/2vhCeFB and consider donating bit.ly/3J5uprM.
    This recording was made with financial support of The Howell Pack, the United States.
    All of Bach is a project of the Netherlands Bach Society, with the aim to perform and record all of Bach's works and share them online with the world for free. Visit our online treasury for more videos and background material on www.bachvereniging.nl/en/allo.... For concert dates and tickets go to www.bachvereniging.nl/en/conc....
    Mieneke van der Velden, viola da gamba
    Instrument: Antoine Despont, 1617
    Benjamin Alard, harpsichord
    Instrument: Joel Katzmann after Joannes Couchet, approx. 1650
    0:00 Adagio
    2:07 Allegro
    6:22 Andante
    11:12 Allegro
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  • @bach
    @bach  5 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    0:07 Adagio
    2:07 Allegro
    6:22 Andante
    11:12 Allegro

  • @blipblip88
    @blipblip88 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Her bowing restraint is phenomenal for such an emotional Bach piece. I don't know how that's learned..maybe through life! LOL I dunno., but I commend her playing 100%!!! Interesting basso continuo harpsi performance, nuanced and crisp. This duo is wonderfully attuned and connected to the spirit of baroque music and especially Bach. Such a nice interpretion, spirited and happy! Thanks!

  • @MrJSyer
    @MrJSyer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    I want to live in this channel. Don't mind me, I will just put a chair on the corner and listen quietly to this amazing musicians play all day long. Thank you for the superb work! Greetings from Brazil!

    • @mattiafioravanti8475
      @mattiafioravanti8475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why don't you pick up an instrument yourself? :)

    • @MrJSyer
      @MrJSyer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mattiafioravanti8475 I don't think I have the bare minimum talent required to be able to play anything. I'm just a listener. And not even a good one.

    • @mattiafioravanti8475
      @mattiafioravanti8475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MrJSyer Talent will serve you just up to a point. What's important is application, being contant, study and practice, practice and practice. Start studying, you'll be surprised at yourself.

    • @MrJSyer
      @MrJSyer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mattiafioravanti8475 Thank you! Maybe, I will try :)

    • @desiderioelielton2051
      @desiderioelielton2051 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Não me considero talentoso, mas sou capaz de tocar as invenções a uma voz de Bach, e agora tenho estudado o baixo continuo; mas o segredo é ir devagar e alcançar um nível acima do que estamos sem pressa de chegar ao topo.

  • @avataranadi
    @avataranadi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    As a violist and violinist, I find this performance to be incredibly inspiring, this is perhaps the best bowing I have ever heard on any string instrument; the subtleties of dynamics and articulation are nothing short of mind blowing. The only two people who I know who approach this level on modern bows and in a modern repertoire are Michael Rabin and Steven isserlis.

  • @marcussfebruary9104
    @marcussfebruary9104 5 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    My goodness. That harpsichord is utterly beautiful.

    • @neog
      @neog 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Is an incredible sounding instrument

  • @rascalndear
    @rascalndear 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Ms. Van der Velden is a superb string player. I have enjoyed her playing in many other AoB recordings, including the St. Matthew Passion.

  • @sturolla
    @sturolla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a beautiful channel, I do not want to stop seeing and listening. Simply great...

  • @karstenbiastoch2606
    @karstenbiastoch2606 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ein Traum von Harmonie und Frieden...Bach
    Vielen lieben Dank für dieses Konzert

  • @svantetube
    @svantetube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fantastic playing by a true viol master!

  • @lyoncristiano8783
    @lyoncristiano8783 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    A work so magnificent and delicious to listen to after breakfast, thank you very much for posting, what a beautiful work, a big hug to all involved of the Netherlands Bach Society, from Recife, Brazil

  • @andrewb9974
    @andrewb9974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Out of this world. Complete bliss. As a cellist, I want to learn this now...too much on the go. Perhaps later in life.

    • @ligetisspaghetti5763
      @ligetisspaghetti5763 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The gamba or this sonata?

    • @andrewb9974
      @andrewb9974 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ligetisspaghetti5763 the gamba!

    • @ligetisspaghetti5763
      @ligetisspaghetti5763 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewb9974 any plans done yet? Also do you like Shostakovich 15?

    • @andrewb9974
      @andrewb9974 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ligetisspaghetti5763 plans..after Covid yes. September is start up again for the orchestra. Uhhh....unbelievable with Shosta symphony 15. I spent 5.5 minutes listening to the 1st mov. And my brain exploded. I've never heard it before. I'm very familiar with his violin and cello concertos (part of the cello sention) , but I have not heard his symphonies. This will now be my next journey to memorize. I've had the absolute pleasure of learning and playing with wonder musicians the world over. Shostakovich has always been under played, or misunderstood for me. Even speaking from emense experience in an orchestra, it rings true.
      I'm seriously going to study the score now. Thank you so much for the question 8

    • @ligetisspaghetti5763
      @ligetisspaghetti5763 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewb9974 It would be my dream come true to play Shostakovich Symphony 15 in orchestra. Alas I am not a professional cello player, so it probably won’t happen. 😔. I also recently started on the gamba and I can attest gut strings are 👩‍🍳💋. Also do you mind if I share some of my ideas on the symphony? Also do you happen to have Mahler 1 on the same program as well?

  • @pamelafrancis4476
    @pamelafrancis4476 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for "show casing" the viola da gamba. We can hear All of Bach's works with more perception.

  • @alvarogarciabarbosa3199
    @alvarogarciabarbosa3199 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bach, always "Unser Vater Bach" Music in the castle of heaven.(JEG). And perfection in the performance in Viola da gamba and Harpsichord.
    Thanks for sharing. One listening is not enough!

  • @clintow
    @clintow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    this channel is such a blessing.

    • @andrewb9974
      @andrewb9974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I live for it...you nailed it. This channel is incredibly life sustaining.

  • @giovanniagostini2224
    @giovanniagostini2224 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This execution is really fine, the best among the ones which can be found of this sonata. I would like you to record also the other two sonatas!

  • @williamshipman550
    @williamshipman550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The Allegro is masterful. I tend to measure any recording of the Gamba Sonatas by the 1028 allegro, and in general, I measure any recording of the 1028 allegro by the Puyana and Cervera recording. Your performance is the very best I've heard. As we say, you've touched all of the bases. The subtle rest for the harpsichord at 3:33 is perfect. Don't you think that this piece reflects JSB's intention to not only hallmark his genius, but also show the relevance of the VdG even at such a late date? My opinions are my own, of course, and I thank you for such a beautiful and soaring performance.

  • @MartinBertolotto
    @MartinBertolotto 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Excelent Music and the camera takes are superb ! Congratulations !

  • @jimbo2629
    @jimbo2629 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This opening movement is so sad. Bach at his best. And then such a jolly second movement. What a lovely Flemish harpsichord. I am making a single manual Couchet for my granddaughter.

  • @mosheknoll1603
    @mosheknoll1603 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bravissimo! Simply amazing....

  • @terrygreene1395
    @terrygreene1395 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Exquisitely played!! Thank you for your incredible virtuosity.

  • @maxcrowe3900
    @maxcrowe3900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is gorgeous. Thank you. I hope it was KFA who first performed this. I love his music for this instrument. 🙏

  • @Jherekwhippet13
    @Jherekwhippet13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant sound! Superb performances.

  • @TheresedeGoede
    @TheresedeGoede 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bravo Mieneke! Prachtig!

  • @HarperJayMichaels
    @HarperJayMichaels 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This performance is Stellar!!! Thank so much for making my day!
    🙏🙏🙏

  • @gatozarin
    @gatozarin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just sublime. No other words.

  • @bobsteinfinkel
    @bobsteinfinkel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is filmed awesome too, love how the camera is capturing both the music and the players

  • @jack-danielbalantine156
    @jack-danielbalantine156 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lively and full of energy!!

  • @davidevans3974
    @davidevans3974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So beautiful, thank you so much, an inspiration.

  • @margaretelizabethgarinnaci7355
    @margaretelizabethgarinnaci7355 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for this beautiful video. By playing it frequently I shall love it more and more.

  • @ArcAudios77
    @ArcAudios77 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellence, many thanks for sharing.

  • @therightmusic7639
    @therightmusic7639 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I love the viola da gamba. Such soothing sound. Professional and beautiful interpretation. What a gorgeous harpsichord! The camera directing (work) could be a little better. Bravo!

    • @pamelafrancis4476
      @pamelafrancis4476 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I cannot see how the camera work could be better. Main thing is the sound which is always spot on.

    • @jhonatascarmo5239
      @jhonatascarmo5239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Totally agree... A static camera would probably be better... Although the quality of the recording is great!

  • @elfpix
    @elfpix 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very soft touch and boomey sound. True to form Bach composed a lot of notes leaving it to the performer to give them phrasing and shape. Many opportunities missed here.

    • @VA-lo4ul
      @VA-lo4ul 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What!!!!!

  • @juvenalsousajr6860
    @juvenalsousajr6860 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful performance!!! Wooooow!!!

  • @Jimbodisfan
    @Jimbodisfan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow. Great performance. Greetings from the United States.

  • @BewegtBildYT
    @BewegtBildYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Benjamin Alard is a great harpsichordist! Always happy to see him in one of the videos.

  • @markpapin1045
    @markpapin1045 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Totally Awesome And Very Much Wonderfully Unfolded Very Uplifting, Incredible "

  • @pirate35ml
    @pirate35ml 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Magnifique interprétation !

  • @jasondelpierre2731
    @jasondelpierre2731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    May you all be blessed and happy for having such a sense of beauty. So glad To read these comments. Warms up my heart ❤

  • @gabrieldionisi7398
    @gabrieldionisi7398 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Magnifica interpretazione...

  • @AlamoCityCello
    @AlamoCityCello ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravo! Love the Bach!

  • @kencory2476
    @kencory2476 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love Alard's adept trills with odd fingers like 3 and 4.

  • @mariakasilda
    @mariakasilda 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love you Mieneke! :)

  • @swamikrishnananda9570
    @swamikrishnananda9570 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful combination of harpsichord and viola

  • @100morexca7
    @100morexca7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    HEMOSA ,...QUE SONORIDAD,...QUE HERMOSURA AL OIDO,... CASI,...COMO MI NIÑA BONITA SIEMPRE....

  • @soniareginacosta8327
    @soniareginacosta8327 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ótimo o canal

  • @jakubolszewski8284
    @jakubolszewski8284 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Better than any movies perfomance. Wow.

  • @atlayalabarreda7772
    @atlayalabarreda7772 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hermoso.

  • @phwbooth
    @phwbooth 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very fine.

  • @lettersquash
    @lettersquash 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wonderful performance again as usual from NBS. A bit better planning with the camera operator would have been good - from about 14:30 van der Velden is doing something very interesting, but we continue our long gaze at Alard's head nodding.

    • @suellenbastos1537
      @suellenbastos1537 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the same. I wanted to see the way she plays, but the camera is practically the whole time on the harpsichordist.

  • @Musicienne-DAB1995
    @Musicienne-DAB1995 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vielen Dank für diese Videos! Sie haben dem Welt unglaubliches Geld geschenkt.

  • @etienneleuridan3547
    @etienneleuridan3547 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gentil et très legato 😇 . . .

  • @7125Mhz
    @7125Mhz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is like finding diamonds.

  • @trashbagsmiley1999
    @trashbagsmiley1999 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mooie Sinterklaas geschenk :)

  • @loeuvrededieu
    @loeuvrededieu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Delightful.

  • @unagondolaunremo
    @unagondolaunremo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    bravissimi!

  • @mylesjordan9970
    @mylesjordan9970 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First class.

  • @wolkowy1
    @wolkowy1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bravi!!! for both of them: these specific 2 instruments sound great together, almost as one - as they should, because there is an immediate 'answer' or better - an echo between them, according to this composition. The great balance between the 2 musical roles is inherent in Bach's composition itself but also realized and performed (with good timing and sensitivity) by the 2 instrumentalists.
    I admit that around 14:30 (mm. 91-94 in the last Allegro) I was at first a little disappointed with the last bass-note of the descending figuration which sounded more dramatic in another performance of this composition, but after another thought I came to the conclusion that there is no need of sudden dramatic bass-notes towards the end of a perfectly balanced composition. Thanks for this great upload.

  • @nicolasrodriguezn9673
    @nicolasrodriguezn9673 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saludos y mi agradecimiento por compartir música tan hermosa

  • @enricorossi3106
    @enricorossi3106 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I listened to this at 3 am, very loud
    My neighbours called the police
    The police obviously arrested them.

  • @nathanaelhorton2942
    @nathanaelhorton2942 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Proper da gamba that.

  • @mariejoseeducharme6551
    @mariejoseeducharme6551 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Formidable

  • @noli-soattinguitarduo9204
    @noli-soattinguitarduo9204 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW!!!

  • @luisacevedobarrenechea5822
    @luisacevedobarrenechea5822 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow!

  • @carlosbashuertas
    @carlosbashuertas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Supreme beauty.

  • @tonychinnery
    @tonychinnery 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Unfortunately I think the recording engineer did not understand the nature of these sonatas. They are not viola da gamba sonatas with harpsichord accompaniment, they are written in 3 part counterpoint (just occasionally breaking out into 4 part), so it is very important to hear the harpsichord lines. In this recording they are often covered by the viol. They are definitely not on an equal footing as they should be.

    • @violjohn
      @violjohn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, I think you are right; the upper line of the harpsichord (and probably the lower) should be on an equal level with the gamba, not a "background" as they seem to be. I still like the performance very much, although it is perhaps a bit "cautious".

    • @arjenbij
      @arjenbij 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This exactly. There are sections where the left hand of the harpsichord is totally inaudible, this would have sounded very different in the actual concert hall.

    • @Liskafm352
      @Liskafm352 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It pains me to agree, but either way, I love this recording and gladly come back for more. Would you happen to have a recommendation of another well proportioned performance?

    • @ORMA1
      @ORMA1 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Liskafm352you could play organ instead of cembalo, you could try..

  • @hvosouq
    @hvosouq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's the Use of words...make a fool of selves?
    'DIVINITY'

  • @enricorossi3106
    @enricorossi3106 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish I was in the Groundhog Day

  • @cosimoepicoco7022
    @cosimoepicoco7022 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    La voce di Dio....Ai due artisti 110/lode.

  • @kasemrabeh9487
    @kasemrabeh9487 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🎼🍃💜🍃

  • @lior1328
    @lior1328 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    😍

  • @michelnormandin8068
    @michelnormandin8068 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dès les premiers plans de la viole, vint un doux souvenir ; le film d'Alain Corneau : ''Tous les matins du monde''. Je suis très heureux d'avoir récemment découvert cette chaîne. Qualité, moyens, une offre culturelle de toute beauté. SI Bach avait été une femme, je pourrais dire qu'il fut ma maîtresse à l'adolescence. www.allocine.fr/film/fichefilm_gen_cfilm=1918.html

    • @lyoncristiano8783
      @lyoncristiano8783 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Merci, mon ami, je vais aller voir ce film

  • @MrDvenclovas
    @MrDvenclovas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    💥💛💚❤️💥

  • @Symphing12
    @Symphing12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anybody know what register viola da gamba this one is? Treble, Alto or Tenor, or something else?

    • @wapolo1974
      @wapolo1974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It’s a bass viol.

    • @Symphing12
      @Symphing12 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wapolo1974 thank you!

  • @jack-danielbalantine156
    @jack-danielbalantine156 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍👍👍👍👍💐

  • @majeedahmed4594
    @majeedahmed4594 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please do the 3rd sonata

  • @jiyujizai
    @jiyujizai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😉♦️❣️🎶

  • @marianaelizondo7086
    @marianaelizondo7086 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who is the Harpsichord player ?

  • @kenfaridabad
    @kenfaridabad 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks youtube

  • @sifridbassoon
    @sifridbassoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I could hear this in real life.

  • @victorlinares4137
    @victorlinares4137 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it just me or is that the hottest old lady ever on top of an amazing viola de gamba player

    • @Rilberich
      @Rilberich 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think what you meant was "Such a beautiful young lady", and yes, I have to agree.

    • @wonder-womyn
      @wonder-womyn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Old? She was only 56 here.

  • @donnewmeyer3133
    @donnewmeyer3133 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m puzzled by the strange notes at around 1:00. Surely that’s a mistake in the score?

    • @bach
      @bach  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've checked the score and it seems that the right notes were being played around 1:00, at least according to the Urtext score (Neue Bach Ausgabe - Bärenreiter)

    • @donnewmeyer3133
      @donnewmeyer3133 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Netherlands Bach Society Thanks for checking. I wasn’t suggesting that she played a wrong note, but rather that maybe the manuscript contained an error. I could be wrong, of course, but that note is just so jarring that I can’t imagine Bach intended it that way. Of course, I haven’t yet heard “Allofbach” so perhaps I’ve missed other such examples. :)

    • @donnewmeyer3133
      @donnewmeyer3133 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Out of curiosity, I listened to half a dozen versions of measure 11, and they were evenly split between playing it this way (G natural) and with G#. To my ear, it’s unbearable with G natural because the keyboard has just made a beautiful change to G# just half a beat beforehand.

    • @tobiasstudtheol
      @tobiasstudtheol 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bach, still the best available for a lot of compositions by Bach. Although it is known to not be completely accurate.
      I love to recommend Carus but the Carus score for the Viol Sonatas is unfortunately not available yet.

  • @Lucius_Chiaraviglio
    @Lucius_Chiaraviglio 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Must be unnerving to have somebody walking around close by with a camera like that when you're playing.

  • @eduardodegodoycintra150
    @eduardodegodoycintra150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maybe Bach never wrote any music... When I listen Bach, fells like i´m listening a prayer.

  • @angelginesfernandez-rojasa7270
    @angelginesfernandez-rojasa7270 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ese instrumento es un violoncelo, no es una viola de gamba

    • @keescanalfp5143
      @keescanalfp5143 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the instrument has even seven, 7 strings! and C-shaped sound holes, and oblique rounded shoulders, and a flatter sound body, and, and. no doubt needed .

    • @49jbrash
      @49jbrash 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Viola da gamba: Antoine Despont, 1617

  • @petershapiro4247
    @petershapiro4247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wasted talent--bach's music is not horizontal, it is vertical polyphonic progression..the 'musicians'0 are making sounds,but i could not call it music..thev instruments should form a unity,!

    • @arjenbij
      @arjenbij 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      These musicians are very good, it's just that the sound engineers haven't balanced the harpsichord to the viol very well.

  • @corgilove2070
    @corgilove2070 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very beautiful playing, but her posture and face are painful to watch.

  • @ezequielstepanenko3229
    @ezequielstepanenko3229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I loved it, you are all excellent musicians, and this channel is a bless for mankind