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Just use a coin open the battery terminal holes and fill it up to level with battery water. Do it every year. Mine did go up to 4 years. But I drive my d-max as an everyday vehicle to go to work.
Hi Nick, Great work on the MUX scene. During the install @ 5:24 you had most of the earth connections wired in the body side of the vehicle earth shunt which allows the smart alternator to detect electrical loads. Then during the post install comments @ 5:33 you have all of the earth connections wired in the battery side of the vehicle earth shunt. This will appear to test OK for voltage on start up. However, when your DC2DC charger kicks in (Dual Battery System video) or any other added electrical loads (driving lights, etc.) the alternator may/will-not detect the additional load which can effectively be draining your start battery. If this is the case your current electrical setup could also be contributing to the shortened battery life you are experiencing. Please take this as a constructive observation. I,ve fitted a SuperCharge Gold power (36month warranty) about 2 years ago, MF80D26L. My original Isuzu battery died after about 3 years.
I'm from Philippines and I'm using 3smf megaforce 95ah battery on my isuzu trooper. 5 years on november and still kicking. the only maintenace im doing is charging overnight every 3-6 months. it's way overdue from 24months warranty and I'm happy with it. :)
Nick - doing a bit of research on how the 'smart' alternator on your MUX works might help you with your problem (I have a 2017 D-Max, with secondary battery in the tray and DC/DC charger - no battery problems). If you have a battery volt meter where you can see it from the driver's seat, you'll get an idea how it works. The ECU is doing a few things with the alternator's charging system. After starting the engine, the ECU will ensure the battery is quickly charged to replace the power lost from using the starter motor. After that, the ECU is trying to balance fuel economy with keeping the battery at a charged state to run the engine and accessories. Understanding the first Law of Thermodynamics helps to understand what it's trying to do (energy consumption isn't free...in this case it's coming from either the fuel tank or kinetic energy). So watching the voltage gauge, you'll see the alternator 'kick in' when you are breaking/decelerating, and disconnect when accelerating. If you have a scan gauge, you'll see these cut in/cut out points are directly related to 'engine load' points. You'll notice that driving after a while on the highway at a decent speed with about 60% engine load, the battery voltage will slowly drop down to around 12.6 volts, and only jump higher when you are going down a hill. If you turn your lights on at any time, the ECU knows this is a larger load on the electrical system, and the alternator will stay connected all the time and you'll see that your battery voltage will hang around 14.1 volts. I'm suspecting your short battery life problems might have something to do with your secondary battery DC/DC charger - maybe it's not turning off after you turn the engine off. Also, I agree with someone else's comment here - you should have your battery cable for your secondary battery connected to ground (so the ECU can 'see' the load)...not the negative terminal of the battery. Love your work! Ta Fless
Did you watch the entire video? I do a charge rate check in the video lol 🤣 But yes I have checked the Alternator output and as far as I can see it's OK 👍
I had a similar issue with the same Century Battery, it spewed acid all over the battery tray, down the engine bay and on the garage floor. Pretty pissed, slow learner, so fitted another after supplier said "just bad luck! " I trickle charge if I haven't driven the car for 7 days. I used to get good life out of Century batteries years ago but things appear to have gone downhill.
Duck into the kitchen and grab the wifes Bicarb of soda and put a few tablespoons in water and give battery tray a wash down to neutralise the acid if you haven't done so already. Another great video mate.
Mostly，Lead-acid battery onlly has up to about 500 times circle（fully charge and discharge），every time we start our engine only use about 20-25% percent capacity. so most lead-acid battery only has about 3 years lifetime （about according to the frequency you start up）
Places like cattle stations , remote communities and mines only get 12 months until the coldest day, under hard use or conditions. then drop a cell. 3-5 years from a hyundai getz in Brisbane should be "normal" You can buy one, $199 and abuse it for a year, or spend $700+ on agm or lithium and worry about it all the time for 1-6 years.
….”just out of warranty”, and it starts to leak and swell? That just racks of the manufacturer building in a limited designed life. I’ve used Century ( or one if their branded clones) as a 2nd battery on the past and not had issues. Based on some other comments in this post, suggest Century’s quality appears to have gone downhill in recent times and performance is hit or miss. My crank battery (Prado) is nearly 4 years old so will be looking to update soon, guess I need to look for an alternative to a Century? Cheers
My batteries used to last 5 years, but recent replaced only after 3 yrs. Charge rates and voltages check out ok. Seems like a sign of the times... and quality..?
Cheers Nick. I run Supercharge Allrounders in my Delica, generally they last 6 years. In my MUX, I'm still on the factory battery at 5 years old now. I do charge all my vehicles at least once every 60 days with a 5 stage charger, and think that's what makes the difference. When the MUX battery dies, will be going with the Supercharge Allrounder again.
Hey Nick - we got 4 years I think out of factory, it failed hard when it went. I notice your century with secondary terminals were probably bypassing the smart alternator. I don't have a comparison, but monitoring charging voltage I consider the smart alternator control aggressive in the MU-X, enough to trigger dc-dc system to think the engine was off. So depending on what you had on secondary terminals you've been running off battery and not alternator. I assume you didn't get the dealer to turn off smart alternator, I asked it 'can't be done' but have seen posts that it can. In the end I usually end up driving with lights on which turns off smart management when we are on a trip.
Hi Mick, Unfortunately The car manufactures Have changed a lot of the engineering on how a battery is charged. some alternators now only have a charge voltage of 12 v as before it was 13.8 volts so therefore a battery never can be fully charged as in the past. the main culprit that allows discharge is any accessory added to the vehicle such as cigar ret plug ins like Phone chargers, these power points remain active on most vehicles when ignition is turned off. Auto lights another always switch lights off. If your running fridge expect a constant drain more than usual a second battery is advised to be fitted just to run things like that. I've had a battery drain problem on the 22 M-ux it was a combination of the above and I remove the charger for my phone and turn off the auto light the computer in the vehicles of today also draw a constant current so there is going to be a constant drain on the battery that isn't there in the older vehicles . hope this makes some sense cheers from an old Gypsy
I had the same problem as you with a century 4x4 battery. I replaced my factory battery with the century purely because it had the extra lugs for accessories. I kept it topped up to the correct level, however, I noticed if I’ve parked on a hill or gradient, fluid would leak out. I treated my under battery tray with Lanolin spray oil as a temporary measure. I tried a another supercheap auto brand battery however, not having the extra lugs was a pain, so I have gone back to century. If I get five years out of my new century battery I will settle for that.
Bought a battery from my local isuzu dealer here in Philippines, has the isuzu logo on it, year old now and still OK. Got just over 4 years out of the original battery on my mux. When I lived in Perth used century dual batteries in my diesel landcruiser, 2 years was the average life span. I used to buy direct from century and found other suppliers had the same batteries at a cheaper price! Commented to salesman that I could buy them cheaper at other suppliers, he said well buy them there, never went back to century.
I haven't had much luck with century batteries in both my 4x4 and boat. They were a bit of a let down. I use exide now only because the distributor is two sheds up from my work and I can get them cheaper than any other battery. The battery I had that lasted the longest was a Bosch maintenance free it lasted 4 years in North Australia where most batteries only last about 2.
I used to own a Nissan Navara d22 which I bought new. Sold seven years later with the original batteries still in good shape. Yuasa dual cranking batteries as a standard OEM.
y 2008 GTI came with a Varta battery which lasted 7 years, replaced with a Fiamm battery which is now on 8 years with no sign of weakening. Both are AGM.
I put a Supercharge Allrounder as a second battery in my Patrol, wired in parallel with the OEM battery. Replaced both after 5 years with 2 more Allrounders which have lasted 6 years and still going. Judging by the distributor of Century batteries in Australia, and seeing they have many others made in China, I'm not convinced that the guts of the Century is made here. Maybe they add the acid here.......
Have been told to hook up a charger to the battery every few months to keep it healthy buy and old auto electrician. I got almost four years out of the factory battery in my dmax. And swapped over to a supercharge gladiator battery. Got told the gladiator is better then the gold. It the auto parts store. Has 42 months warranty so hopefully it goes alright have only had it for a year so far.
Factory battery in my 2016 dmax lasted 11 months. Then replaced under warranty by RACQ . I replaced it after 4 years with a supercharge battery before a long trip. It has been in there for 2 years no trouble.
Hey Nick. I also have a 2018 MUX I I’ve been running the Century Ultra Hi Performance 4WD battery in mine with no problems at all. It’s coming g up to four years old now and hasn’t struggled. I’ve never had it on any trickle charge even over winter even though I live near the Victorian High Country where we get freezing temperatures.
I've a 2018 MUX runs the factory battery, five years old now, no issues, I do however trickle charge as the vehicle stands for a few weeks between use. Had a Century deep cycle battery, was advised suitable as under hood use, lasted 20 months before it died and the case had bellies all around, wouldn't buy another Century battery, spent more money a d invested in a deep cycle Optuma one, works fine, 24 months old now
Great video Nick be honest I don’t think anyone can get more life span out of a battery. Only one thing you can do is check the battery elements and see if there’s water covering them or not if they are down just top them up . I have to get my battery checked in my car because my I stop is playing up it’s not working have been told the battery could be down or it’s the computer is playing up. All ways looking forward to seeing you on your next video. Hopefully the next one is you doing some wheeling In your Jimny
My century n70z last till warranty expiration, then died. Now fitted a supercharge all rounder MRV70L with some slight modifications to fit into a 2019 dmax.
Supercharge batteries are great... I actually have no idea what is in my Mu-x but I had a heavily modified WRX until the start of the of the year and had nothing but battery issues when using the higher end expensive batteries (Odyssey extreme, Optima Red top). Supercharge battery was the only one I had that didnt fail within 6 months.
I have a Supercharge battery in my 2015 D-MaxI fitted in 2018 when I returned from my last Iraq deployment. It’s still in there working just fine. I have a battery maintenance charger I use if I’m away from home for more than a week.
I have been a battery retailer for 23 yrs. The greatest test on battery durability are heavy vehicle fleets. Century and Delkor Batteries used to be a fantastic product 12-14 years ago, but the companies were not making any money when their batteries lasted up to, and over 10 years in 4wds….. and 6 years in Trucks. They tinkered with the internals to shorten the lifespans. Currently there are 2 brands I hold in high regard. Neuton Power ( the Chinese product, not the Korean ). Amaron Silver ( made in India ).
@@LowRangeNick i will add : If you drive your vehicle less than 2hrs per week, a trickle charger is essential. 2 amps minimum to maintain battery health. The Century Overlander you had originally started life as a Yuasa Overlander 25 years ago. Failure rates were above average because Century crammed 17 plates per cell into a 15 plate case, and increased the acid strength to add more CCA ( cold cranking amps ).
I have optima yellow top for cranking duties and a blue top for the dually in the Nissan. They been in there about 6 years now. I keep the the blue top on trickle charge when I got the fridge going as we don’t use the Nissan much that’s about it. I got ctek for charging and quick plugs installed on both batteries to bullbar for quick hookup
2019 MUX - factory battery lasted 16mths - replaced with one from battery world which is starting to sound weak after 24 months. Have tried charging with my Victron charger but didn’t improve it.
Max Alternator output should not exceed 14.4 v and should float at 13.75v so look for your battery voltage between these voltages and no lower then about 12.7 min when running.
That's why I have dual batteries one closest to the firewall is just for the starter motor and glow plugs and my other one in standard spot is for the rest of the car
I have 2x biltema(scandinavian store brand) up front in my hilux, car comes with 2 batteries from factory so the truck will start in the cold. Had them for around 5 years now and they are still going strong.
Pretty simple, I have a 2017 Dmax and change the crank battery every 3 years no matter what. In fact I'm due for a new one now. Not worth trying to wring them out when you tour. Might be ok in a car around town when a phone call to NRMA or a battery shop get you on the way in an hour or so. Cant do that in the Simpson desert.
Im currently running a heavy duty battery from the RAA in my Dmax. Not sure what brand it is meant to be. Before that I had the factory Isuzu battery and lasted 3yrs before it died without warning. At the same time my alternator was diagnosed as busted and siince then ive been through another 2 alternators. Im currently on my 4th alternator in the span of a year!! So I cant confirm that it is battery failure. Isuzu is blaming it on my dual battery but ive had it confirmed that the setup is fine. Ive been keen to try the Century batteries, now not so keen!
Hey Nick I've been running one of those Supercharge batteries for over 3yrs now in my 2017 Dmax and haven't had an issue . Not running anything extra but does what it should...has lasted longer than the factory one so that's a bonus...probably put the who- do on myself now😂 cheers Terry
Hi Nick! Love the video's!! Helped me out more times than I wish to count!! I am running a 2014 LST MUX and I have to say its the best money I have ever spent on a vehicle!!! I am a set and forget kind of guy! Battery wise - after I got the RAA down here in Adelaide to jump my Mux after a battery failure I went to Cost Co and purchased an Exide Battery for the Mux. RAA or RACQ (I think?) in your neck of the woods wanted $320+ for a replacement. Cost Co's Exide battery cost me just on $200 and is still going strong!! (Touch wood) 2 years 3 months later without a fault. Very Happy. Keep up the great work!!8-)
I can't remember what battery I have, I think it is an Exide (and the previous one which didn't last longer than about 3 years was I believe an Exide as well). I have a 2013 D-Max, so it doesn't have the smart alternator and I also have a battery in the tray. I used to charge the AGM just from the alternator. It worked okay, but found that my AGM was not lasting as long as I'd like (approx 3 years). I invested in a DC-DC charger. The AGM seems to be doing better (but I haven't travelled as much since COVID). But one thing I did learn though, because I was lazy with finishing the wiring, I had the AGM charging from the alternator for a while bypassing the DC-DC charger. I was finding that after a few runs, that the starter battery was losing oomf to start the car. I changed the AGM to charge from the DC-DC and after a long drive, the starter battery was back to its original cranking power. I've not let the AGM charge from the alternator since and have found that the starter battery is in a much better place. Nick, do you have a secondary battery? If so, how is it wired up?
I do run a secondary battery. It's in the back of my drawer system and I charge it of a redarc bcdc25d charger. It is starting to get to the end of its life now after 5 years I think though.
@@LowRangeNick Then the theory goes out the window for your set up as you are using a quality DC-DC charger. I do wonder if your alternator is causing some issues with over voltage.
After about 4 years usage in my Trailblazer I switched to a Bosch AGM battery last February. Cannot yet say how long it will last ... but I hope AGM lasts longer. No regular trickle/tender charging here (the Trailblazer is being used daily).
I've used supercharge batteries in my 4wds for years. I got nearly 4 years from my supercharge in my dmax before needing to replace it. Century batteries are garbage imo never had good runs with them. Is the battery life a bi product of the smart alternator constantly altering voltage going into the battery sometimes nothing, sometimes a lil bit sometimes alot of charge.
Supercharge also has more cca compared to most others good for winching. Maybe u need to have two start batteries under the bonnet to share the load of lights, winching, and starting of the vehicle ect across two batteries.
Hi Nick, we have a 2017 MUX and we still have the original battery! We are in Tassie and after six years it’s still reliable. We also have a Land Cruiser and the battery in that is over ten years old but, is getting a bit tired now lol. I hope you can find a reliable battery for your car. We have no trickle chargers connected to either batter, they just sit statically in a shed.
I have been running a Optima D31A yellow top for the past approx 10yrs. It has been in my Dmax for the past 8yrs and was in my pk ranger for approx 2yrs before that. Battery is at 61% and is still putting out 721cca. Only done the odd 240v charge.
Hi Nick first observation of your battery terminals the neg terminal especially your eccessories have been installed after the battery factory shunt. Not sure if your running a dc to dc charger most recommend to install ground points on the body side of the shunt or ground to the vehicle chassis
Hi Nick, Great work on the MUX scene. Must agree with Paul. During the install @ 5:24 you had most of the earth connections wired in the body side of the vehicle earth shunt which allows the smart alternator to detect electrical loads. Then during the post install comments @ 5:33 you have all of the earth connections wired in the battery side of the vehicle earth shunt. This will appear to test OK for voltage on start up. However, when your DC2DC charger kicks in (Dual Battery System video) or any other added electrical loads (driving lights, etc.) the alternator may/will-not detect the additional load which can effectively be draining your start battery. If this is the case your current electrical setup could also be contributing to the shortened battery life you are experiencing. Please take this as a constructive observation.
Hey mate. Ive got the century N70ZZLX 810CCA battery in my 2018 Dmax. Had it fitted since I bought the ute new in November 2018. Never had a flat battery and coming up on nearly 5 years old. I use a CTEK charger on a recondition cycle 1-2 times a year and plug the charger in on a normal charge if its sitting for more than 2 weeks.
Gday Nick mate I've got 2017 mux I had same problem in November 2022 I went to battery world got a yuasa battery made in Japan calcium no maintenance after many discussions with isuzu its come to my attention that never run lead acid battery in a isuzu they charge at a higher rate and will cook them calcium or agm battery are best as they can absorb the shock and handle higher charge rate most of you reading this will be thinking ur alternator is over charging well I had that checked to factory specifications and mine is fine 14.2 they run at 13.8 is standard lead acid charge so u might be thinking that little bit extra won't matter it dosnt initially but in time ur battery will die hope this helps Dazz wa
My 2016 Dmax seems to go tbrough a battery every 3 years. I think running a DCDC puts extra strain on the cranking battery. Currently using a Repco, which seems to be a rebranded Yuasa? 3 years is about standard these days!
I have had nothing but trouble with AU made batteries. 16 months ago, I replaced a 10 year old optima for one in my patrol, and it's stuffed now. I couldn't get an optima ATT because of covid issues... I will get another optima, because I have found them to be very forgiving, and ten years is not out of the question. I will never buy another AU battery again, sadly. Phill
Century made in qld. Super charge is the same as the exide battery just rebadge. Super charge brought the exide brand in 2013 shut the factory down in 2014.. Exide use to add hot melt glue in their off road batteries for plate suppourt..
To many variables for saying how to prolong lead acid start battery..Under the hood temps, usage-dayly driving or just occasional fun..ratio bouncing around off road vs on road..so on..1-5years..I get 5 years out of Bosch 95Ah staring battery in my Dmax in Scandinavia..Temp outside less the 25C..usually..30 000 km per year since it also a work ute/truck/pick up...
Hey Nick just replaced original battery in my 2019 dmax got 4 year's out of it, was done on recent service but dmax has just clocked 37000k so not sure if that's relevant to battery life span 👍
Isn't 14v a little low. Should be 14.4v for normal flooded battery and 14.6v for agm. I know new cars have smart alternators that drop voltage to reduce engine load... But could be more trouble.
2018 Dmax battery failed after 18 months. Have been running a "Super Charge Gold Plus" 810CCA made in the Philippines Supplied by my crusty old mechanic and he wont sell junk
Hey mate, did you had this kind of issue where filled up diesel but then the fuel gauge on the dash won't go full. It always left with one bar to full. Wondering if any idea? Thanks
I haven't ever experienced that. It could be a level sensor issue or that the tank isn't being filled completely. Would need to check the readout of the ecu with a scan tool and do some diagnosis.
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I installed a 50W solar panel on the top of the vehicle， always make sure that the battery has more than 13.9V voltage😜
Just use a coin open the battery terminal holes and fill it up to level with battery water. Do it every year. Mine did go up to 4 years. But I drive my d-max as an everyday vehicle to go to work.
Hi Nick, Amaron Australia in Brisbane. They are green and last a long long time, well worth a google search.
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Hi Nick, Great work on the MUX scene. During the install @ 5:24 you had most of the earth connections wired in the body side of the vehicle earth shunt which allows the smart alternator to detect electrical loads. Then during the post install comments @ 5:33 you have all of the earth connections wired in the battery side of the vehicle earth shunt. This will appear to test OK for voltage on start up. However, when your DC2DC charger kicks in (Dual Battery System video) or any other added electrical loads (driving lights, etc.) the alternator may/will-not detect the additional load which can effectively be draining your start battery. If this is the case your current electrical setup could also be contributing to the shortened battery life you are experiencing. Please take this as a constructive observation.
I,ve fitted a SuperCharge Gold power (36month warranty) about 2 years ago, MF80D26L. My original Isuzu battery died after about 3 years.
Ill change them over and see how it goes! cheers :)
I'm from Philippines and I'm using 3smf megaforce 95ah battery on my isuzu trooper. 5 years on november and still kicking. the only maintenace im doing is charging overnight every 3-6 months. it's way overdue from 24months warranty and I'm happy with it. :)
Nick - doing a bit of research on how the 'smart' alternator on your MUX works might help you with your problem (I have a 2017 D-Max, with secondary battery in the tray and DC/DC charger - no battery problems). If you have a battery volt meter where you can see it from the driver's seat, you'll get an idea how it works. The ECU is doing a few things with the alternator's charging system. After starting the engine, the ECU will ensure the battery is quickly charged to replace the power lost from using the starter motor. After that, the ECU is trying to balance fuel economy with keeping the battery at a charged state to run the engine and accessories. Understanding the first Law of Thermodynamics helps to understand what it's trying to do (energy consumption isn't free...in this case it's coming from either the fuel tank or kinetic energy). So watching the voltage gauge, you'll see the alternator 'kick in' when you are breaking/decelerating, and disconnect when accelerating. If you have a scan gauge, you'll see these cut in/cut out points are directly related to 'engine load' points. You'll notice that driving after a while on the highway at a decent speed with about 60% engine load, the battery voltage will slowly drop down to around 12.6 volts, and only jump higher when you are going down a hill. If you turn your lights on at any time, the ECU knows this is a larger load on the electrical system, and the alternator will stay connected all the time and you'll see that your battery voltage will hang around 14.1 volts. I'm suspecting your short battery life problems might have something to do with your secondary battery DC/DC charger - maybe it's not turning off after you turn the engine off. Also, I agree with someone else's comment here - you should have your battery cable for your secondary battery connected to ground (so the ECU can 'see' the load)...not the negative terminal of the battery. Love your work! Ta Fless
CHECK YOUR ALTERNATOR OUTPUT, it may be too high , and cooking the battery
Did you watch the entire video? I do a charge rate check in the video lol 🤣 But yes I have checked the Alternator output and as far as I can see it's OK 👍
I had a similar issue with the same Century Battery, it spewed acid all over the battery tray, down the engine bay and on the garage floor. Pretty pissed, slow learner, so fitted another after supplier said "just bad luck! " I trickle charge if I haven't driven the car for 7 days. I used to get good life out of Century batteries years ago but things appear to have gone downhill.
Duck into the kitchen and grab the wifes Bicarb of soda and put a few tablespoons in water and give battery tray a wash down to neutralise the acid if you haven't done so already. Another great video mate.
Mostly，Lead-acid battery onlly has up to about 500 times circle（fully charge and discharge），every time we start our engine only use about 20-25% percent capacity. so most lead-acid battery only has about 3 years lifetime （about according to the frequency you start up）
Places like cattle stations , remote communities and mines only get 12 months until the coldest day, under hard use or conditions. then drop a cell.
3-5 years from a hyundai getz in Brisbane should be "normal"
You can buy one, $199 and abuse it for a year, or spend $700+ on agm or lithium and worry about it all the time for 1-6 years.
….”just out of warranty”, and it starts to leak and swell? That just racks of the manufacturer building in a limited designed life. I’ve used Century ( or one if their branded clones) as a 2nd battery on the past and not had issues. Based on some other comments in this post, suggest Century’s quality appears to have gone downhill in recent times and performance is hit or miss. My crank battery (Prado) is nearly 4 years old so will be looking to update soon, guess I need to look for an alternative to a Century?
Cheers
My batteries used to last 5 years, but recent replaced only after 3 yrs. Charge rates and voltages check out ok. Seems like a sign of the times... and quality..?
AC Delco Hybrid Marine Battery in mine, goes beautifully 3 year warranty
Cheers Nick. I run Supercharge Allrounders in my Delica, generally they last 6 years. In my MUX, I'm still on the factory battery at 5 years old now. I do charge all my vehicles at least once every 60 days with a 5 stage charger, and think that's what makes the difference. When the MUX battery dies, will be going with the Supercharge Allrounder again.
Hey Nick - we got 4 years I think out of factory, it failed hard when it went. I notice your century with secondary terminals were probably bypassing the smart alternator. I don't have a comparison, but monitoring charging voltage I consider the smart alternator control aggressive in the MU-X, enough to trigger dc-dc system to think the engine was off. So depending on what you had on secondary terminals you've been running off battery and not alternator.
I assume you didn't get the dealer to turn off smart alternator, I asked it 'can't be done' but have seen posts that it can.
In the end I usually end up driving with lights on which turns off smart management when we are on a trip.
Hi Mick, Unfortunately The car manufactures Have changed a lot of the engineering on how a battery is charged. some alternators now only have a charge voltage of 12 v as before it was 13.8 volts so therefore a battery never can be fully charged as in the past. the main culprit that allows discharge is any accessory added to the vehicle such as cigar ret plug ins like Phone chargers, these power points remain active on most vehicles when ignition is turned off. Auto lights another always switch lights off. If your running fridge expect a constant drain more than usual a second battery is advised to be fitted just to run things like that. I've had a battery drain problem on the 22 M-ux it was a combination of the above and I remove the charger for my phone and turn off the auto light the computer in the vehicles of today also draw a constant current so there is going to be a constant drain on the battery that isn't there in the older vehicles .
hope this makes some sense
cheers from an old Gypsy
I had the same problem as you with a century 4x4 battery. I replaced my factory battery with the century purely because it had the extra lugs for accessories. I kept it topped up to the correct level, however, I noticed if I’ve parked on a hill or gradient, fluid would leak out. I treated my under battery tray with Lanolin spray oil as a temporary measure. I tried a another supercheap auto brand battery however, not having the extra lugs was a pain, so I have gone back to century. If I get five years out of my new century battery I will settle for that.
Bought a battery from my local isuzu dealer here in Philippines, has the isuzu logo on it, year old now and still OK.
Got just over 4 years out of the original battery on my mux.
When I lived in Perth used century dual batteries in my diesel landcruiser, 2 years was the average life span.
I used to buy direct from century and found other suppliers had the same batteries at a cheaper price!
Commented to salesman that I could buy them cheaper at other suppliers, he said well buy them there, never went back to century.
I haven't had much luck with century batteries in both my 4x4 and boat. They were a bit of a let down. I use exide now only because the distributor is two sheds up from my work and I can get them cheaper than any other battery. The battery I had that lasted the longest was a Bosch maintenance free it lasted 4 years in North Australia where most batteries only last about 2.
I used to own a Nissan Navara d22 which I bought new. Sold seven years later with the original batteries still in good shape. Yuasa dual cranking batteries as a standard OEM.
y 2008 GTI came with a Varta battery which lasted 7 years, replaced with a Fiamm battery which is now on 8 years with no sign of weakening. Both are AGM.
I put a Supercharge Allrounder as a second battery in my Patrol, wired in parallel with the OEM battery. Replaced both after 5 years with 2 more Allrounders which have lasted 6 years and still going. Judging by the distributor of Century batteries in Australia, and seeing they have many others made in China, I'm not convinced that the guts of the Century is made here. Maybe they add the acid here.......
Have been told to hook up a charger to the battery every few months to keep it healthy buy and old auto electrician. I got almost four years out of the factory battery in my dmax. And swapped over to a supercharge gladiator battery. Got told the gladiator is better then the gold. It the auto parts store. Has 42 months warranty so hopefully it goes alright have only had it for a year so far.
Factory battery in my 2016 dmax lasted 11 months. Then replaced under warranty by RACQ . I replaced it after 4 years with a supercharge battery before a long trip. It has been in there for 2 years no trouble.
Hey Nick. I also have a 2018 MUX I I’ve been running the Century Ultra Hi Performance 4WD battery in mine with no problems at all. It’s coming g up to four years old now and hasn’t struggled. I’ve never had it on any trickle charge even over winter even though I live near the Victorian High Country where we get freezing temperatures.
I've a 2018 MUX runs the factory battery, five years old now, no issues, I do however trickle charge as the vehicle stands for a few weeks between use.
Had a Century deep cycle battery, was advised suitable as under hood use, lasted 20 months before it died and the case had bellies all around, wouldn't buy another Century battery, spent more money a d invested in a deep cycle Optuma one, works fine, 24 months old now
I think I got over 5 years out of my last battery. Those lithium jump starters are a great idea, especially if you drive an auto.
Great video Nick be honest I don’t think anyone can get more life span out of a battery. Only one thing you can do is check the battery elements and see if there’s water covering them or not if they are down just top them up . I have to get my battery checked in my car because my I stop is playing up it’s not working have been told the battery could be down or it’s the computer is playing up. All ways looking forward to seeing you on your next video. Hopefully the next one is you doing some wheeling In your Jimny
Using the Century 4x4 like you have but car is not a daily drive so it is permanently on a Ctek 5 amp charger. Three years old and going well .
My century n70z last till warranty expiration, then died.
Now fitted a supercharge all rounder MRV70L with some slight modifications to fit into a 2019 dmax.
Supercharge batteries are great... I actually have no idea what is in my Mu-x but I had a heavily modified WRX until the start of the of the year and had nothing but battery issues when using the higher end expensive batteries (Odyssey extreme, Optima Red top). Supercharge battery was the only one I had that didnt fail within 6 months.
I have a Tata Xenon still with it's original Amaron battery after 7.5 years
I have a Supercharge battery in my 2015 D-MaxI fitted in 2018 when I returned from my last Iraq deployment. It’s still in there working just fine. I have a battery maintenance charger I use if I’m away from home for more than a week.
I have been a battery retailer for 23 yrs.
The greatest test on battery durability are heavy vehicle fleets.
Century and Delkor Batteries used to be a fantastic product 12-14 years ago, but the companies were not making any money when their batteries lasted up to, and over 10 years in 4wds….. and 6 years in Trucks.
They tinkered with the internals to shorten the lifespans.
Currently there are 2 brands I hold in high regard.
Neuton Power ( the Chinese product, not the Korean ).
Amaron Silver ( made in India ).
Thanks a lot for that info. Great to hear 👍
@@LowRangeNick i will add :
If you drive your vehicle less than 2hrs per week, a trickle charger is essential. 2 amps minimum to maintain battery health.
The Century Overlander you had originally started life as a Yuasa Overlander 25 years ago.
Failure rates were above average because Century crammed 17 plates per cell into a 15 plate case, and increased the acid strength to add more CCA ( cold cranking amps ).
I have optima yellow top for cranking duties and a blue top for the dually in the Nissan. They been in there about 6 years now. I keep the the blue top on trickle charge when I got the fridge going as we don’t use the Nissan much that’s about it. I got ctek for charging and quick plugs installed on both batteries to bullbar for quick hookup
2019 MUX - factory battery lasted 16mths - replaced with one from battery world which is starting to sound weak after 24 months. Have tried charging with my Victron charger but didn’t improve it.
Max Alternator output should not exceed 14.4 v and should float at 13.75v so look for your battery voltage between these voltages and no lower then about 12.7 min when running.
That's why I have dual batteries one closest to the firewall is just for the starter motor and glow plugs and my other one in standard spot is for the rest of the car
I have 2x biltema(scandinavian store brand) up front in my hilux, car comes with 2 batteries from factory so the truck will start in the cold.
Had them for around 5 years now and they are still going strong.
Pretty simple, I have a 2017 Dmax and change the crank battery every 3 years no matter what. In fact I'm due for a new one now. Not worth trying to wring them out when you tour. Might be ok in a car around town when a phone call to NRMA or a battery shop get you on the way in an hour or so. Cant do that in the Simpson desert.
Pretty simple install a duel battery
Im currently running a heavy duty battery from the RAA in my Dmax. Not sure what brand it is meant to be. Before that I had the factory Isuzu battery and lasted 3yrs before it died without warning. At the same time my alternator was diagnosed as busted and siince then ive been through another 2 alternators. Im currently on my 4th alternator in the span of a year!! So I cant confirm that it is battery failure. Isuzu is blaming it on my dual battery but ive had it confirmed that the setup is fine. Ive been keen to try the Century batteries, now not so keen!
Hey Nick I've been running one of those Supercharge batteries for over 3yrs now in my 2017 Dmax and haven't had an issue . Not running anything extra but does what it should...has lasted longer than the factory one so that's a bonus...probably put the who- do on myself now😂 cheers Terry
Hi Nick! Love the video's!! Helped me out more times than I wish to count!! I am running a 2014 LST MUX and I have to say its the best money I have ever spent on a vehicle!!! I am a set and forget kind of guy! Battery wise - after I got the RAA down here in Adelaide to jump my Mux after a battery failure I went to Cost Co and purchased an Exide Battery for the Mux. RAA or RACQ (I think?) in your neck of the woods wanted $320+ for a replacement. Cost Co's Exide battery cost me just on $200 and is still going strong!! (Touch wood) 2 years 3 months later without a fault. Very Happy. Keep up the great work!!8-)
Gday nick! I've been running supercharged batter since sept. 2019 and i haven't replaced it yet. But I live in VIC.
I can't remember what battery I have, I think it is an Exide (and the previous one which didn't last longer than about 3 years was I believe an Exide as well). I have a 2013 D-Max, so it doesn't have the smart alternator and I also have a battery in the tray. I used to charge the AGM just from the alternator. It worked okay, but found that my AGM was not lasting as long as I'd like (approx 3 years). I invested in a DC-DC charger. The AGM seems to be doing better (but I haven't travelled as much since COVID). But one thing I did learn though, because I was lazy with finishing the wiring, I had the AGM charging from the alternator for a while bypassing the DC-DC charger. I was finding that after a few runs, that the starter battery was losing oomf to start the car. I changed the AGM to charge from the DC-DC and after a long drive, the starter battery was back to its original cranking power. I've not let the AGM charge from the alternator since and have found that the starter battery is in a much better place. Nick, do you have a secondary battery? If so, how is it wired up?
I do run a secondary battery. It's in the back of my drawer system and I charge it of a redarc bcdc25d charger. It is starting to get to the end of its life now after 5 years I think though.
@@LowRangeNick Then the theory goes out the window for your set up as you are using a quality DC-DC charger. I do wonder if your alternator is causing some issues with over voltage.
After about 4 years usage in my Trailblazer I switched to a Bosch AGM battery last February. Cannot yet say how long it will last ... but I hope AGM lasts longer.
No regular trickle/tender charging here (the Trailblazer is being used daily).
I've used supercharge batteries in my 4wds for years. I got nearly 4 years from my supercharge in my dmax before needing to replace it.
Century batteries are garbage imo never had good runs with them. Is the battery life a bi product of the smart alternator constantly altering voltage going into the battery sometimes nothing, sometimes a lil bit sometimes alot of charge.
Supercharge also has more cca compared to most others good for winching.
Maybe u need to have two start batteries under the bonnet to share the load of lights, winching, and starting of the vehicle ect across two batteries.
Hi Nick, we have a 2017 MUX and we still have the original battery! We are in Tassie and after six years it’s still reliable. We also have a Land Cruiser and the battery in that is over ten years old but, is getting a bit tired now lol. I hope you can find a reliable battery for your car.
We have no trickle chargers connected to either batter, they just sit statically in a shed.
Wow! That's great battery life 👍thanks a lot for the info Wayne 😀
I have been running a Optima D31A yellow top for the past approx 10yrs. It has been in my Dmax for the past 8yrs and was in my pk ranger for approx 2yrs before that.
Battery is at 61% and is still putting out 721cca.
Only done the odd 240v charge.
That's really great!
Hi Nick first observation of your battery terminals the neg terminal especially your eccessories have been installed after the battery factory shunt. Not sure if your running a dc to dc charger most recommend to install ground points on the body side of the shunt or ground to the vehicle chassis
Hi Nick, Great work on the MUX scene. Must agree with Paul. During the install @ 5:24 you had most of the earth connections wired in the body side of the vehicle earth shunt which allows the smart alternator to detect electrical loads. Then during the post install comments @ 5:33 you have all of the earth connections wired in the battery side of the vehicle earth shunt. This will appear to test OK for voltage on start up. However, when your DC2DC charger kicks in (Dual Battery System video) or any other added electrical loads (driving lights, etc.) the alternator may/will-not detect the additional load which can effectively be draining your start battery. If this is the case your current electrical setup could also be contributing to the shortened battery life you are experiencing. Please take this as a constructive observation.
A C Delco 6 to 8 years usually.
Hey mate. Ive got the century N70ZZLX 810CCA battery in my 2018 Dmax. Had it fitted since I bought the ute new in November 2018. Never had a flat battery and coming up on nearly 5 years old. I use a CTEK charger on a recondition cycle 1-2 times a year and plug the charger in on a normal charge if its sitting for more than 2 weeks.
Awesome! Thanks Zac 😀
Gday Nick mate I've got 2017 mux I had same problem in November 2022 I went to battery world got a yuasa battery made in Japan calcium no maintenance after many discussions with isuzu its come to my attention that never run lead acid battery in a isuzu they charge at a higher rate and will cook them calcium or agm battery are best as they can absorb the shock and handle higher charge rate most of you reading this will be thinking ur alternator is over charging well I had that checked to factory specifications and mine is fine 14.2 they run at 13.8 is standard lead acid charge so u might be thinking that little bit extra won't matter it dosnt initially but in time ur battery will die hope this helps
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My 2016 Dmax seems to go tbrough a battery every 3 years.
I think running a DCDC puts extra strain on the cranking battery.
Currently using a Repco, which seems to be a rebranded Yuasa?
3 years is about standard these days!
I run exide extreme, going perfect for last 4 years
I have had nothing but trouble with AU made batteries. 16 months ago, I replaced a 10 year old optima for one in my patrol, and it's stuffed now.
I couldn't get an optima ATT because of covid issues... I will get another optima, because
I have found them to be very forgiving, and ten years is not out of the question. I will never buy another AU battery again, sadly.
Phill
That's impressive life from the Optima! Thanks Phill 👍
I use AC Delco batteries always have always will in my Isuzu D-Max I get about 5 or 6 years out of them
Century made in qld. Super charge is the same as the exide battery just rebadge. Super charge brought the exide brand in 2013 shut the factory down in 2014.. Exide use to add hot melt glue in their off road batteries for plate suppourt..
I use li-ion startup battery for more than 3 years，with 1600CCA😁
I would be pushing for a free replacement .
To many variables for saying how to prolong lead acid start battery..Under the hood temps, usage-dayly driving or just occasional fun..ratio bouncing around off road vs on road..so on..1-5years..I get 5 years out of Bosch 95Ah staring battery in my Dmax in Scandinavia..Temp outside less the 25C..usually..30 000 km per year since it also a work ute/truck/pick up...
Yeah i have the same century battery, its about 16 months old and is looking a bit buldgy
Hey Nick just replaced original battery in my 2019 dmax got 4 year's out of it, was done on recent service but dmax has just clocked 37000k so not sure if that's relevant to battery life span 👍
Good 👍, Nick tell me one thing can I use damping sheet under the bonnet for reducing the engine noise
You should be able to put sound dampening under the bonnet.
Isn't 14v a little low. Should be 14.4v for normal flooded battery and 14.6v for agm. I know new cars have smart alternators that drop voltage to reduce engine load... But could be more trouble.
2018 Dmax battery failed after 18 months.
Have been running a "Super Charge Gold Plus" 810CCA made in the Philippines
Supplied by my crusty old mechanic and he wont sell junk
Great to hear! Thanks Peter 👍
Hi Nick, a side issue, have you ever used rust prevention such as Lanoguard?
I haven't ever tried lano guard. I assume it would work pretty well being lanolin.
What is the voltage, sounds like it had a shorted cell and the rest are gassing off due to over voltage
Nowadays it seems 3 years is what you get ot of a battery???
It seems so...I guess the battery companies have to make there money haha Can't have battery's lasting 10 years anymore 🤣
Hey mate, did you had this kind of issue where filled up diesel but then the fuel gauge on the dash won't go full. It always left with one bar to full. Wondering if any idea? Thanks
I haven't ever experienced that. It could be a level sensor issue or that the tank isn't being filled completely. Would need to check the readout of the ecu with a scan tool and do some diagnosis.
Was the battery swollen before you put the repco 2.5 amp charger on it? I've had the same charger swell and distroy 2 batteries.
Yes, it was swollen before trying to charge.
@@LowRangeNick ok. I'm still sus about that charger
Look into a CAT battery
CAT batteries have gone downhill in the last 2-3 yrs. Nothing but customer complaints nowadays
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