You should check out Spectralayers 11. It can separate guitars, unmix voices, unmix drums. SL11 is the best version yet. Still will be artifacts but they are much improved. It's really worked well for me taking apart old multitack tape recordings remixing them.
Just got hip to your channel. Definitely going to follow. I brought up how AI could render some positions more and more obsolete over time on NPR a few days ago. I think this is a next step in that evolution. For good or for bad.
Hahaha, it’s a total rodeo every time honestly. Figuring things out as I go. Maybe after a few years I’ll feel qualified enough to make a video on my video workflow hahaha
I can't hear a difference. I have Logic, and RX10 Standard. The RX11 sounds about the same as I'm used to with RX10. It is helpful for me. I shometime shoot live bands with a nice stereo mic on my camera, then I master the audio. I've improved the mix by separating the stems in RX then bringing up the vocal a little. So you can improve a crappy capture a little. I've also heard that these work better on NON-MASTERED MIXES. The Queen track is a mastered mix.
@@DIDCHOI I did just watch a video comparing RX10 to 11 Rebalance, and 11 does sound better. So I'll probably use Logic to split out stems. I don't want to pay 100.00 to upgrade RX. Their improvements were incremental at best this time.
Honestly, I am quite disappointed with this Stem Splitter tool. It's pretty same as Izotope's one, so nothing new or better, maybe the benefit using Stem Splitter in Logic is - processing speed, how fast stereo mix is being split into those different tracks, but other than that, pretty much meeh thing, I only see the use of this tool is for purely music education purpose, when you need to figure out how musicians played different parts. But what really shocked me in a good way - Session Players' integration into Logic 11. It's bloody good. I saw your previous video where you were asking yourself if you use this for professional setting, and you said no. Well, for me I would say yes and no. No, because you can't simply write music with given generated pattern, but also yes, because you can modify the session player's track to make more sense to your actual arrangement and save plenty of time not having to program, for an example, drums for few hours. So it does save a lot of time, and for professionals - it's the most important thing.
Great points! Stem splitter is a good first step, but will need many iterations to get any better I suspect. Session players, I meant I wouldn’t use because I’d always favour real instruments, even if it’s just me playing each. But for what it is they have fantastic quality!
Do you know why they’re smart artifacts when you’re doing this stuff because whoever mixed it you’re gonna have more artifacts it depends on the mixing if somebody mix it good they’re gonna have less artifacts it’s all about the mixing if you mix it good you will have less artifacts but if you have a shitty mix, you have more artifacts😊
Depends on the style of music. It’s especially harder with cymbals cause in non jazz styles, cymbals are washy and wide spectrum, not mixed to be clear and distinct.
@@DIDCHOI Right you're going to get bleed from most of the tracks especially at the higher frequencies no matter what ... At least from the technology that Logic is using to build this feature. You're never going to get 'a good mix' that just simply isolates every track from certain frequencies .. Instruments share frequencies unless you're making some weird , non traditional kind of music.
Awesome, I’d love to see a comparison to Gaudio and Lalalai
Don’t have much experience with those unfortunately but definitely curious how they compare
You should check out Spectralayers 11. It can separate guitars, unmix voices, unmix drums. SL11 is the best version yet. Still will be artifacts but they are much improved. It's really worked well for me taking apart old multitack tape recordings remixing them.
Just got hip to your channel. Definitely going to follow.
I brought up how AI could render some positions more and more obsolete over time on NPR a few days ago. I think this is a next step in that evolution. For good or for bad.
I would like to see a video on how you make these videos, lol I’m learning Final Cut and would like to make this type of video! Thanks!
Hahaha, it’s a total rodeo every time honestly. Figuring things out as I go. Maybe after a few years I’ll feel qualified enough to make a video on my video workflow hahaha
Stem splitter in logic worked perfectly for me.
You’re a smart kid!
Hahaha thank you 🙏
I can't hear a difference. I have Logic, and RX10 Standard. The RX11 sounds about the same as I'm used to with RX10. It is helpful for me. I shometime shoot live bands with a nice stereo mic on my camera, then I master the audio. I've improved the mix by separating the stems in RX then bringing up the vocal a little. So you can improve a crappy capture a little. I've also heard that these work better on NON-MASTERED MIXES. The Queen track is a mastered mix.
Good point, perhaps without mastering it could do a better job! Will have to give it a try when I get time.
@@DIDCHOI I did just watch a video comparing RX10 to 11 Rebalance, and 11 does sound better. So I'll probably use Logic to split out stems. I don't want to pay 100.00 to upgrade RX. Their improvements were incremental at best this time.
@ChadWork1 very true. I was on 9 so I upgraded, but not a huge difference to need updating every version
I'm into Extracting Guitars from Songs, So I went with Steinberg's Spectralayers 10 instead......
Don’t have any experience with it myself, but cool!
I would like to hear a country song
Honestly, I am quite disappointed with this Stem Splitter tool. It's pretty same as Izotope's one, so nothing new or better, maybe the benefit using Stem Splitter in Logic is - processing speed, how fast stereo mix is being split into those different tracks, but other than that, pretty much meeh thing, I only see the use of this tool is for purely music education purpose, when you need to figure out how musicians played different parts. But what really shocked me in a good way - Session Players' integration into Logic 11. It's bloody good. I saw your previous video where you were asking yourself if you use this for professional setting, and you said no. Well, for me I would say yes and no. No, because you can't simply write music with given generated pattern, but also yes, because you can modify the session player's track to make more sense to your actual arrangement and save plenty of time not having to program, for an example, drums for few hours. So it does save a lot of time, and for professionals - it's the most important thing.
Great points! Stem splitter is a good first step, but will need many iterations to get any better I suspect.
Session players, I meant I wouldn’t use because I’d always favour real instruments, even if it’s just me playing each. But for what it is they have fantastic quality!
Moises app is the best
Do you know why they’re smart artifacts when you’re doing this stuff because whoever mixed it you’re gonna have more artifacts it depends on the mixing if somebody mix it good they’re gonna have less artifacts it’s all about the mixing if you mix it good you will have less artifacts but if you have a shitty mix, you have more artifacts😊
Depends on the style of music. It’s especially harder with cymbals cause in non jazz styles, cymbals are washy and wide spectrum, not mixed to be clear and distinct.
@@DIDCHOI I guess it could be both🤷♂️😊
@@DIDCHOI Right you're going to get bleed from most of the tracks especially at the higher frequencies no matter what ... At least from the technology that Logic is using to build this feature. You're never going to get 'a good mix' that just simply isolates every track from certain frequencies .. Instruments share frequencies unless you're making some weird , non traditional kind of music.
Queen had excellent recording engineers, doesn't get much better.