The mention that Gamefreak will probably forget about Paradox Pokémon makes me sad. I haven't seen a gimmick receive so much fanfare and fanart since Mega Evolution. I hope they at least incorporate them in Legends games or something.
@@theamazingspooderman2697 I mean in the sense that people started making their own fanmade Paradox forms. Regional variants are fan favorites, don't get me wrong, but I haven't seen as many people make their own, at least not to the same extent as Mega Evolution or Paradox Pokémon.
Paradoxes aren’t gimmicks lmao They are Gen 9 version of ultra beasts, they’ll return But obviously new paradoxes won’t be made just as new ultra beasts haven’t been made
I won’t miss them personally, they’re lazy rehashes of pre existing pokemon and sorry excuses for not including fossils. The only paradoxes I like are roaring moon and the box legends
I thought it was because RM was the only past paradox based on a pseudo legendary, and IV was a fusion between two big and popular mon, but that makes sense as well
4:12 They didn't forget with Brute Bonnet. They were very particular with how they distributed his stats. With its highest stat being attack at 127 and its lowest stat being speed with only 55. This is so, even if you run a Timid nature (-attack, +speed) with 0 attack IVs or EVs, along with 31 speed IVs and 252 speed EVs, you STILL won't get Protosynthesis to give a boost to speed. Since attack will still be exactly 1 point higher. They didn't want to risk a fast Spore user rampaging through VGC. It's the same reason they gave Toedscruel such a terrible ability
given how Spore is the best sleep inducing move with the only counters being grass types and safety goggles (there is insomnia and vital spirit too but like...no one is gonna be using those abilities) and that it's only learned by grass types that are based on mushrooms. Yeah it makes sense why they DON'T want anything fast to be abusing the move, and base 70 speed is the fastest they are willing to go without needing a hindering ability
I have this headcanon that a Paradox Pokemon physically uses a Booster Energy different whether it's a Past or Future Paradox. So like, Iron Hands opens up a chest cavity and slots the Booster Energy in like a Fallout 4 Fusion Core, and Roaring Moon cracks it open like a cold one.
In all fairness to Brute Bonnet, it’s kind of forced to be bad because gamefreak is justifiably scared of a fast spore user. Brute Bonnets stats are made the way it is so that even a timid 31iv and 252ev speed stat and 0iv attack stat is just one single point too high to prevent its speed from getting the boost.
@@yungmuney5903giving negative priority to spore guarantees at least one sleep turn on whoever is slept. I won’t stop reminding you of how stupid you are. this is basic game knowledge.
Guzzlord has been described as the most dangerous and intimidating of all Ultra Beasts from generation seven, and should have a secondary antagonist role in the final season of "Sun and Moon" where the same Guzzlord (along with backup) invades the Alola league which should have been a two-parter.
The fact that Goodra is pure dragon type is criminal... Dragon/Water is RIGHT THERE! My favorite dragon type Pokemon happens to be one of the worst psuedo-legendaries. :(
@@vrrfux4626 At least it'd make sense for the former because of the inspiration (the line is based on the "blue dragon sea slug, it's a pun). The latter is just entirely because of the looks.
Goodra has always been in a weird place. It should learn all kinds of status moves like a recover variant, maybe a signature move like Sticky Webb equivalent with slime, some way to increase it's bulkiness
Doesn't matter how high the base stat total is, it's how all of those points are distributed. You can have 670 stat points and only spread them into HP and Attack, making it slow and frail. Look at Rampardos with 97 HP and 165 Attack, but it's very frail and slow. LMAO
Another sad part about Iron Thorns and Brute Bonnet is that their STAB options are dogshit. You're telling me your best physical Grass move is Loaded Dice Bullet Seed? No Knock Off either. And, in Iron Throns case, they're allergic to giving physical electric mons real options. And no, Jump Kick, but yellow isn't worth it
Brute Bonnet gets Seed Bomb and Crunch for stab. Not the best, but reliable enough. Iron Thorns, however, has its best electric type move as Wild Charge. Supercell Slam is really bad in VGC due to how popular Protect is.
As someone who also plays the TCG, it is funny whenever I hear Mega Audino and Iron Thorns get mentioned because both have a World Championship to their name in the TCG although Iron Thorns is a little controversial to say the least.
I really hope paradox Pokémon get hidden abilities in the next gen that are either the same as their modern counterparts eg. Sandy Shocks with magnet pull or roaring moon with aerilate or are related like iron thorns with Electric Surge (reflecting tyranitar's sand stream) although I'm not sure what you would give to iron jugulis...
11:24 ALRIGHT SAY IT WITH ME MEGANIUM BROS- Meganium actually has a pretty solid niche in GSC OU as a support mon with leech seed and screens, helping offensive sweepers set up safely. In fact, in smogon singles Meganium is actually the BEST of the three starters in its debut generation!
@Mobtrapper-hq8is This is the funny thing, I never understood why Whitney’s Miltank was so infamous because I always chose Chikorita in the Johto Games. Bayleef’s access to Reflect, synthesis, and Poison Powder make it arguably the most reliable answer to the cow. See guys? There is a reason to pick Chikorita!
The best they can do for Meganium is to rearrange its stats a tad, give it a better ability, and I also would say give it a secondary typing but then we'd have to worry about Feraligatr and Typhlosion missing out. If it were up to me to buff Meganium I'd go this route. First off rearrange those stats and also add 5 to the BST cause it's at 525 for some dumb reason. Here's the new stat line up. Hp- 80 ---> 88 Atk- 82 ---> 62 Def- 100 --> 110 SpAtk- 83 --> 120 SpDef- 100 --> 110 Speed- 80 ----> 40 Now this new version of Meganium IS slower but more bulky AND higher special attack, why did I make it slower? Well because of the new Hidden Ability that I'm gonna give it. Meganium will now have Triage at its hidden ability. (And if that's too strong than Thick Fat would work just fine). Along with Triage I'm giving Meganium a few new moves such as Draining Kiss, Floral Healing, Pollen Puff, etc. Moves which are affected by Triage. And if we were to give Meganium a 2nd typing then Fairy would make the most sense. Also with the slower speed it can now work in Trick Rooms, while NICHE surely it could find something right?
For Feraligatr, I'd just give it a Dragon type regional form, give it 20 more points to its attack stat, cause base 105 really isn't good or viable anymore, and give it the ability Intimidate. I'd say strong jaw would be good for a Croc pokemon, but unless we give it access to all elemental fangs, Fer really doesn't learn many biting moves. Intimidate fits him. There's no way things like: Shinx, Staravia, and Luxio can have intimidate, but not an alternate form of Feraligatr. I think a 7 foot alligator is intimidating. Oh, and instead of by breeding, let it get Dragon dance by level up. That's pretty much what I'd do for it.
@evawhite1144 I mean 105 is perfectly serviceable considering how good sheer force is, especially after a dragon dance. I mean Nidoking only uses his 85 special attack with it and he works incredibly well with it.
@@MrtheFckface I mean, if 105 base attack is still considered good, imagine how much better 125 would be. Also, it's not just about buffing its attack stat, I really want Fer to get a dragon type. So it can form a trio with Charizard and Sceptile of "reptilian starters with dragon trais and the dragon type" and each one of them belongs to one of the elemental starter types. I mean, Zard and Sceptile got the dragon type with their megas, and Fer never got that. So I think a dragon type regional form/variant would be the next best thing. Real tired of people saying Meganium should be the dragon type, as if that thing didn't have "fairy" written all over its face, lol.
Another thing against Iron Thorns is that it doesn’t have Sand Stream like Tyranitar does, and has worse base Sp. Def anyway, so it takes special hits WAY worse than Tyranitar does
If you ask me, they should've made Iron Thorns a Dark/Electric type and Goodra a Dragon/Water type and have it get Thick Fat, Maybe also make Brute Bonnet a Poison/Dark type by way of Mushrooms not being plants. Also imagine if Ampharos had Electric Surge as its Hidden Ability along with Rising Voltage.
I really hate how Glalie is considered to be so bad whether in game, or competitive even with the mega evolution. Glalie is arguably my favorite ice type Pokémon, with it’s only real competition right now being Cetitan because of it’s pre evolution being so damn cute. I had a level 100 Glalie one time in my original sapphire version, and if the fairy type wasn’t a thing in alpha sapphire I’d have a Glalie as my last Pokémon instead of Gardevoir. I love this Pokémon, and it sucks to hear that it’s so bad in both casual and competitive. I’d even be willing to use Glalie even more in new runs of alpha sapphire if it wasn’t found so late in the game, and as mentioned fairy types and by extension Gardevoir exists.
Idk. I had a Glalie in Omega Ruby, and he felt good to me. 80 speed might SOUND low, but when a lot of Hoenn Pokemon are a bit on the Slow side, he'll be faster than most of his competition. Relatively good stats for tanking the things that deal neutral damage as well.
@@josephbulkin9222 yeah I just looked at my planned team for my next run of alpha sapphire on a team builder website, and using Glalie over Gardevoir is pretty much the same as using Gardevoir on the team. So I think at this point, I’m gonna make it work on my next run of alpha sapphire. Hopefully i can get that run going sometime before the end of the year. Soul silver though has been taking a long time, and might go on for a while when it’s time to take on red (so much level grinding).
@@jaretco6423 and I have a small love hate relationship with that Pokémon because of this. Though good luck getting me to use one in Hoenn. Considering the fact the only dawn stone you get in the main story isn’t until like right at the end. Also Froslass ain’t gonna survive against Garchomp in sinnoh. That’s just the problem with this family, bad type, and bad stats. And yet I’m gonna do all I can next time I go through Hoenn to make Glalie good, just to give it more love.
The following cross-gen evolutions: Dusknoir Electivire Magmortar All of which have a BST of 525 or higher, and yet they almost never not suck ass (Magmortar being the only one to do something in the lower-tiers at some point, can’t say the same with the other two tho) Also shoutouts to Florges for being painfully generic despite having a massive whopping 552 BST, that’s even higher than Volcarona’s and even Urshifu’s
It might sound odd but i think greedents moveset looks good on paper but its stats don’t help it. It gets belly drum but its not outspeeding anything outside of trick room. Cheek pouch + stuff cheeks is a good combo but it has such low defenses that it doesn’t matter
I actually was able to make Guzzlord work really well in Showdown by making it a tank under Trick Room with Drain Punch. Even with its low defenses and 4x weakness to Fairy, its monstrous HP more than makes up for that and keeps it on the field a long time. It also gets really fun pulling free attack boosts with each KO it gets, especially when I have Oranguru right next to it using Instruct. Munkidori and Fezandipiti I also feel can work great under the right circumstances with the right team. For instance, pair Munkidori up with Farigiraf to stop Sucker Punch.
hey didn't expect to see you here but yeah greninja is a great pokemon in competitive and probably the best for playthroughs in x and y as well (don't know as much about the second one)
it isnt great in vgc due to the nature of double battles but it is definitely good in single battles well until they nerfed protean and battle bond in SV
Goodra is an incredible Pokemon for playthroughs, Rom Hacks, and as a defensive core and pivot, especially Hisuian Goodra. I think you're missing the big picture on one of the best Pseudo legendary Pokemon in the game, no joke.
Convenient that you mentioned brute bonnet because he very recently was the first paradox pokemon to fall all the way down to Untiered in competitive pokémon.
Using base Goodra isn’t a smart idea given the Hisuian one put it out of a job and is pretty good, but I’ll still put my original gooey boy on the team because I love him that much (well, I love them both, but my point still stands)
Its funny how Mega Audino wasnt mentioned but Glalie is. At least Glalie has a niche. It could be a fast suicide lead that sets spikes and then explodes with one of the strongest attacks in the game. It could also just hit hard with Double Edge and Body Slam, or pick up kos with ice shard. It also has earthquake for coverage, which is pretty good. Not great, but not the worst. Audino tho is outclassed by its tanky pink brethren and saddled with a genuinely awful ability in Healer. Reggenerator is far better but youd have to use regular Audino to have that privilege.
Every time I see the future paradox Pokémon, even now, all I can think about is All Tomorrows and how buck wild “Pokémon billions of years in the future” could’ve been.
I'm gonna mention my favorite Pokemon, Electivire. Yes it got a new physical electric move through the DLC, but it's risky and not as high BP as Electivire needs. I don't know what Game Freak was thinking trying to make it work both as a physical electric type, but also has decent special attack for gen 4 standards. It just left it being slow enough to get outsped by fast mons and weak enough to get oneshot. You can say the same thing for Luxray.
I just evolved my Goomy to Sligoo on my first ever Y play through. regardless, i really grew on Goodra over the years when mine in the Sword game had Sludge Wave ready for multi-player challenges (a partner of mine used to open our matches with Amoongus, so it's all good) so don't worry my guy, i got you on your favorite Pokèmon 🐌🐉👍🏼
The sad thing is, Slaking could fixed by simply introducing an exclusive move that counts as a Truant turn when used. This gives options for the player while maintaining the "Can only do something every other turn" limitation. Yeah it takes up a move slot but thats a pretty small sacrifice to make Slaking usable without requiring partner support.
I always make Goodra work, usually as a physical attacker with Sap Sipper in doubles. With SV adding Meowscarada being able to use Petal Blizzard, it can get out of hand real quick, especially H-Goodra. Can't leave my #1 fave behind.
Meganium. Can set screens, Leech seed, synthesis, Giga drain, stomp. Give it a light clay. Reflect, light screen. Leech seed. And stomp to paralyze. Passive heals each turn. Massive defence with the screen. And paralysis to stop the opponent from attacking. Give it Big Root. Giga drain, leech seed. Screens again. Massive defence boost, and great healing.
The thing is, Meganium's problem is that it is outclassed by most grass types which is why it doesn't see use, everything you just mentioned can also be done with Serperior for example who even before having contrary, was pretty fast and had only slightly less bulk (and you want to be fast for leech seed shenanigans) Meganium also doesn't have the utility of Roselia and Ferroseed or the bulk and regeneration of Tangela, heck even thwacky keeps Meganium oit of a job.
One Pokémon I would like to point out is Hoopa (regular, not unbound) Hoopa has a great special attack and special defense, but has a lackluster hp, defense and speed, being 4× weak to both ghost and dark is extremely unfortunate since Knock off is very common on various Pokémon, even most fighting types typically carries Knock off for both coverage and utility. Having a mediocre 70 speed means it gets outsped by so many offensive Pokémon, unless it uses a choice scarf, however, Hoopa also commonly carries life orb for damage to make up for not having a super strong STAB move, psychic and shadow ball are not weak but not strong enough. Its issue is that it has to pick either scarf or life orb, without scarf Hoopa is food for faster sweepers and/or revenge killers, and without life orb, it's not strong enough to wallbreak. One final thing I would like to point out is that Hoopa has a mostly deadweight attack stat, if it's attack and speed stat were swapped, I believe Hoopa would find a niche,as for it's ability, instead of having the mostly useless Magician ability, I suggest it could have either Magic guard, Levitate, Prankster or Adaptability (at least one of them could be an excellent candidate for a hidden ability)
Munkidori pretty much has to run a Focus Sash to see any meaningful chance of pulling off its set, & Meganium is severely neglected even among Johto starters. It looks as though a good chunk of the mons covered could do with moves like Body Press and/or a specially based equivalent of it (like in Umbreon's case, who out of all the Eeveelutions, probably suffers among the most from them all suffering from shallow movepools), plus such support moves as Stockpile for Guzzlord & Rapid Spin for Glalie line (idk if Ice Spinner is meaningful support for it to use). Draining moves like Leech Life from the buff would do Archeops line great things to offset Defeatist & a move like Sticky Web would do ones like Goodra quite some good alongside moves such as Encore or Torment (for opposite reasons) for it, Slaking & Regigigas in unexpected ways, with so many potentially useful move & item options to shore up the underwhelming & neglected ones
It's like they never learned from early gen Flareon. Don't give monsters stats and moves that don't match unless it's in that "one off cover your ass" thing (and yes, I know that last bit wasn't possible early gen games).
Well they can't do a dragon starter, it breaks the perfect type trio since dragon resists fire, water, and grass. Fairy is fitting for it but due to it not being catchable in the wild, I could easily imagine Gamefreak just not caring about buffing it. I hope it gets a grass/fairy form in a future Legends game though
Goodra doesn't have the acid anymore I believe, only Sliggoo does. Basically evolved to get rid of it to be able to be the gentle giant it is. The line could have been Dragon/Water into Dragon Poison, then back to Dragon/Water again.
@ 8:17 I like Mega Mewtwo X’s design, because it just enhances what was already there. Plus, my dumb brain never studied Psystrike and thought it was a physical move like Psycho Cut, instead of a Special Move dealing Physical Damage like Psyshock. I have since learned otherwise, but Mega Mewtwo X will always LOOK better aesthetically compared to Mega Mewtwo Y.
Meganium may forgettable and underwhelming but it happens to be one of my favorite Pokémon and definitely serves as the perfect fully evolved starter for Mallow from "Sun and Moon" (my favorite girl in the anime).
they should make a pokemon that has horrible stats when you catch it in the wild, but when you breed it you get its pre evolution, a crazy strong baby you can only get by breeding with better stats than its evolution. i think that would be really funny edit: maybe it could be based on one of those bugs with a decent larval form and a very weak adult stage, like the fishfly or mayfly? the nymphs are aquatic and can live up to 2 years (with fishfly nymphs usually being predators and mayfly nymphs usually being detritivores), while their adult stages are incapable of eating and die in less than a week maybe it also goes from an interesting type into a generic bug/flying type?
I know mons like Rhyperior, Electavire, & Magmortar or have pretty high BST. All at over 530 but are let down by a bad typing or that one stat that is lacking where it shouldn't.
Charizard, despite being GameFreak's golden child, relies on its generational gifts too much to actually be good. Base Charizard sits at a base 109 Special Attack, which is not picking up any KO's in today's meta without the Sun and Solar Power. Not to mention that without Heavy-Duty Boots, it gets torn to pieces by Stealth Rock. Its Mega Evolutions (especially Mega Y) would usually outclass any other Fire-type and its G-Max form could launch off 150 Base Power moves that got boosted to the sky in Sun, but it's simply a tragic story for our poor little guy, Base Charizard.
What bugs me about Archeops is that the reason GF gave it Defeatist because without it, the Pokemon would be too O.P. and I'm thinking, did they forget Aerodyctyl exist? It's also an Fossil Pokemon with the same typing. Except it's more powerful than Archeops. It even got an Mega Evolution one gen afterwards for pete sakes.
Glalie was doomed from the start. If you have only one Mega, you want it to last long and do some reap the rewards of the crazy buffs it got. Becoming a cold nuke as your only viable option accomplishes neither of these.
How on earth did they manage to give Mewtwo moveset problems? That’s actually kind of impressive. I’m glad they at least tried leaning into that part of Mewtwo by giving us the option of a physical Mega Evolution, though, even if it was kind of a flop.
Not sure if it counts.... but if it weren't for the team preview deal coming in the exact same generation, then Zoroark's mere existence would've shooken up the PvP landscape drastically.
Sceptile with it's physical movepool hindered by its physical attack. Tyrantrum has a pretty good typing, abilities, and moves, but it's Speed has screwed it over.
I've seen VGC players try to use these Pokémon when they were allowed. Unfortunately as expected, they weren't consistently successful with them. Maybe Gen 10 will buff them (or nerf others to make them somewhat more viable)
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Happy JPR Friday :)
I always use goodra every game It has been available in
Where's the japanese anime thememe?😐
"The majority of these Pokémon were designed to be war crimes" *Shows Flutter Mane*
Raging Bolt:
Am I a joke to you?
Also, the "Hello" voice line actually came from the Mine Turtle from asdfmovie of all things! LOL
The mention that Gamefreak will probably forget about Paradox Pokémon makes me sad. I haven't seen a gimmick receive so much fanfare and fanart since Mega Evolution. I hope they at least incorporate them in Legends games or something.
I'm sure they'll at least appear in future games, like Ultra Beasts in Sword and Shield.
Regional forms?
@@theamazingspooderman2697 I mean in the sense that people started making their own fanmade Paradox forms. Regional variants are fan favorites, don't get me wrong, but I haven't seen as many people make their own, at least not to the same extent as Mega Evolution or Paradox Pokémon.
Paradoxes aren’t gimmicks lmao
They are Gen 9 version of ultra beasts, they’ll return
But obviously new paradoxes won’t be made just as new ultra beasts haven’t been made
I won’t miss them personally, they’re lazy rehashes of pre existing pokemon and sorry excuses for not including fossils. The only paradoxes I like are roaring moon and the box legends
For those who don't know, Roaring Moon and Iron Valiant have higher base stats since they're based on Mega Salamence, Mega Gardevoir, and Mega Gallade
I thought it was because RM was the only past paradox based on a pseudo legendary, and IV was a fusion between two big and popular mon, but that makes sense as well
@@MrtheFckface...iron thorns tyranitar?
What about mega Tyranitar
@@Sploogesipper he and jugulis were future mons, I was talking about the past ones
@@MrtheFckface iron jugulia is based on a pseudo legendary and yet it doesnt have higher stats
Mega Glalie's strategy being explosion makes thematic sense... If my jaw was dislocated like that I'd want to die too.
4:12 They didn't forget with Brute Bonnet. They were very particular with how they distributed his stats. With its highest stat being attack at 127 and its lowest stat being speed with only 55. This is so, even if you run a Timid nature (-attack, +speed) with 0 attack IVs or EVs, along with 31 speed IVs and 252 speed EVs, you STILL won't get Protosynthesis to give a boost to speed. Since attack will still be exactly 1 point higher.
They didn't want to risk a fast Spore user rampaging through VGC. It's the same reason they gave Toedscruel such a terrible ability
Likewise why Breloom doesn’t get Trailblaze despite basically being perfect for it
given how Spore is the best sleep inducing move with the only counters being grass types and safety goggles (there is insomnia and vital spirit too but like...no one is gonna be using those abilities) and that it's only learned by grass types that are based on mushrooms. Yeah it makes sense why they DON'T want anything fast to be abusing the move, and base 70 speed is the fastest they are willing to go without needing a hindering ability
@@bulborb8756 or they just nerf the move itself into oblivion like Dark Void
@@loruneye7881 i don't think they will ever nerf Spore into oblivion given how it's got very limited distribution only being learned by mushroom's
Just make Spore negative priotity and it solves literally everything. 😂
I have this headcanon that a Paradox Pokemon physically uses a Booster Energy different whether it's a Past or Future Paradox. So like, Iron Hands opens up a chest cavity and slots the Booster Energy in like a Fallout 4 Fusion Core, and Roaring Moon cracks it open like a cold one.
In all fairness to Brute Bonnet, it’s kind of forced to be bad because gamefreak is justifiably scared of a fast spore user.
Brute Bonnets stats are made the way it is so that even a timid 31iv and 252ev speed stat and 0iv attack stat is just one single point too high to prevent its speed from getting the boost.
They could at least give him real moves
Fast Spore user is the one line Game Freak refuses to cross, likely for good reason.
Yeah, it's the same reason Toedscruel got Mycellium Might as an ability. A pokemon with a base 100 speed stat with Spore is asking for abuse.
Making spore negative priority would be such a simple solution but okay gf 😂.
@@yungmuney5903giving negative priority to spore guarantees at least one sleep turn on whoever is slept. I won’t stop reminding you of how stupid you are. this is basic game knowledge.
Guzzlord has been described as the most dangerous and intimidating of all Ultra Beasts from generation seven, and should have a secondary antagonist role in the final season of "Sun and Moon" where the same Guzzlord (along with backup) invades the Alola league which should have been a two-parter.
Well, at least we got AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
Poor editor. The chance to catch a shiny Geodude and it was lost from contract obligations. You want my shiny Golem I caught editor?
i love how in pokemon horizons, the one thing coral's glalie is known for is going kaboom
The fact that Goodra is pure dragon type is criminal... Dragon/Water is RIGHT THERE! My favorite dragon type Pokemon happens to be one of the worst psuedo-legendaries. :(
making it evolve in rain and not gaining the water type might be worse than luxray not being electric dark
@@vrrfux4626 At least it'd make sense for the former because of the inspiration (the line is based on the "blue dragon sea slug, it's a pun). The latter is just entirely because of the looks.
But hey, it could be worse; at least it has a ton of Sp. Def (and with a Lax nature, if you want to raise its Defense), so it's not that bad.
Why would luxray be dark? Because it has dark fur? @@vrrfux4626
it should have been a dragon water type still don't know why it never got the water type even though it evolves in rain
Goodra has always been in a weird place. It should learn all kinds of status moves like a recover variant, maybe a signature move like Sticky Webb equivalent with slime, some way to increase it's bulkiness
If Slurpuff can learn Sticky Web, Goodra should.
Iron Thorns is literally Mecha Godzilla and nobody uses him.
Kinda what happens when something's bad.
Doesn't matter how high the base stat total is, it's how all of those points are distributed. You can have 670 stat points and only spread them into HP and Attack, making it slow and frail. Look at Rampardos with 97 HP and 165 Attack, but it's very frail and slow. LMAO
Another sad part about Iron Thorns and Brute Bonnet is that their STAB options are dogshit. You're telling me your best physical Grass move is Loaded Dice Bullet Seed? No Knock Off either. And, in Iron Throns case, they're allergic to giving physical electric mons real options. And no, Jump Kick, but yellow isn't worth it
Did it get Supercell Slam?
@@barbershopbible Supercell Slam *is* Jump Kick, but yellow
Brute Bonnet gets Seed Bomb and Crunch for stab. Not the best, but reliable enough. Iron Thorns, however, has its best electric type move as Wild Charge. Supercell Slam is really bad in VGC due to how popular Protect is.
seed bomb and crunch aren't bad
it's just that brute bonnet's stats harm it as it can't have its highest stat be speed
BB is a good Choice Band user, it always threatens spore but also has good power behind its moves
0:50 One-Winged Bundle
I will always be bitter for how base Goodra got the short end of the stick. My gooey boy…!
As someone who also plays the TCG, it is funny whenever I hear Mega Audino and Iron Thorns get mentioned because both have a World Championship to their name in the TCG although Iron Thorns is a little controversial to say the least.
"Everyone forgets about Goodra"
Pokémon artists definitely haven't
PTSD activated
Goodra doesn’t deserve to be “interneted”, it’s too pure for that
Don't bring up unhinged artists on our friend shaped slug friend.
@@smackjack78 literally every Pokemon has been "interneted" at least a few times, (yes all of them) and with Goodra it's pretty common
I've been
0:12 My favorite Pokémon is happiny 😭😭😍
I really hope paradox Pokémon get hidden abilities in the next gen that are either the same as their modern counterparts eg. Sandy Shocks with magnet pull or roaring moon with aerilate or are related like iron thorns with Electric Surge (reflecting tyranitar's sand stream) although I'm not sure what you would give to iron jugulis...
11:24 ALRIGHT SAY IT WITH ME MEGANIUM BROS-
Meganium actually has a pretty solid niche in GSC OU as a support mon with leech seed and screens, helping offensive sweepers set up safely.
In fact, in smogon singles Meganium is actually the BEST of the three starters in its debut generation!
@Mobtrapper-hq8is This is the funny thing, I never understood why Whitney’s Miltank was so infamous because I always chose Chikorita in the Johto Games. Bayleef’s access to Reflect, synthesis, and Poison Powder make it arguably the most reliable answer to the cow. See guys? There is a reason to pick Chikorita!
3:19 isn't Brute bonnet technically " the original " 👀
Not in the context he's using it.
The best they can do for Meganium is to rearrange its stats a tad, give it a better ability, and I also would say give it a secondary typing but then we'd have to worry about Feraligatr and Typhlosion missing out.
If it were up to me to buff Meganium I'd go this route. First off rearrange those stats and also add 5 to the BST cause it's at 525 for some dumb reason. Here's the new stat line up.
Hp- 80 ---> 88
Atk- 82 ---> 62
Def- 100 --> 110
SpAtk- 83 --> 120
SpDef- 100 --> 110
Speed- 80 ----> 40
Now this new version of Meganium IS slower but more bulky AND higher special attack, why did I make it slower? Well because of the new Hidden Ability that I'm gonna give it.
Meganium will now have Triage at its hidden ability. (And if that's too strong than Thick Fat would work just fine).
Along with Triage I'm giving Meganium a few new moves such as Draining Kiss, Floral Healing, Pollen Puff, etc. Moves which are affected by Triage.
And if we were to give Meganium a 2nd typing then Fairy would make the most sense. Also with the slower speed it can now work in Trick Rooms, while NICHE surely it could find something right?
Perhaps with a regional form, like how Typhlosian got Ghost with its Hisuian form. Then just Feraligatr would be missing out.
For Feraligatr, I'd just give it a Dragon type regional form, give it 20 more points to its attack stat, cause base 105 really isn't good or viable anymore, and give it the ability Intimidate. I'd say strong jaw would be good for a Croc pokemon, but unless we give it access to all elemental fangs, Fer really doesn't learn many biting moves. Intimidate fits him. There's no way things like: Shinx, Staravia, and Luxio can have intimidate, but not an alternate form of Feraligatr. I think a 7 foot alligator is intimidating. Oh, and instead of by breeding, let it get Dragon dance by level up. That's pretty much what I'd do for it.
Hear me out: Leaf Guard boosts defences in sunlight.
@evawhite1144 I mean 105 is perfectly serviceable considering how good sheer force is, especially after a dragon dance. I mean Nidoking only uses his 85 special attack with it and he works incredibly well with it.
@@MrtheFckface I mean, if 105 base attack is still considered good, imagine how much better 125 would be. Also, it's not just about buffing its attack stat, I really want Fer to get a dragon type. So it can form a trio with Charizard and Sceptile of "reptilian starters with dragon trais and the dragon type" and each one of them belongs to one of the elemental starter types. I mean, Zard and Sceptile got the dragon type with their megas, and Fer never got that. So I think a dragon type regional form/variant would be the next best thing. Real tired of people saying Meganium should be the dragon type, as if that thing didn't have "fairy" written all over its face, lol.
Another thing against Iron Thorns is that it doesn’t have Sand Stream like Tyranitar does, and has worse base Sp. Def anyway, so it takes special hits WAY worse than Tyranitar does
If you ask me, they should've made Iron Thorns a Dark/Electric type and Goodra a Dragon/Water type and have it get Thick Fat, Maybe also make Brute Bonnet a Poison/Dark type by way of Mushrooms not being plants.
Also imagine if Ampharos had Electric Surge as its Hidden Ability along with Rising Voltage.
iron thorns *is* Rock/Electric though
Iron Thorns is rock/electric?
@@astracontritus1209 meant to say Dark/Electric
But then Iron Thorns wouldn't share a type with Tyranitar.
@@robertlupa8273 Tyranitar is Rock/Dark
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Wake up babe new jpr video just dropped (it's 1:30 am in my country)
this is truly a good morning
I really hate how Glalie is considered to be so bad whether in game, or competitive even with the mega evolution. Glalie is arguably my favorite ice type Pokémon, with it’s only real competition right now being Cetitan because of it’s pre evolution being so damn cute. I had a level 100 Glalie one time in my original sapphire version, and if the fairy type wasn’t a thing in alpha sapphire I’d have a Glalie as my last Pokémon instead of Gardevoir. I love this Pokémon, and it sucks to hear that it’s so bad in both casual and competitive. I’d even be willing to use Glalie even more in new runs of alpha sapphire if it wasn’t found so late in the game, and as mentioned fairy types and by extension Gardevoir exists.
Idk. I had a Glalie in Omega Ruby, and he felt good to me. 80 speed might SOUND low, but when a lot of Hoenn Pokemon are a bit on the Slow side, he'll be faster than most of his competition. Relatively good stats for tanking the things that deal neutral damage as well.
@@josephbulkin9222 yeah I just looked at my planned team for my next run of alpha sapphire on a team builder website, and using Glalie over Gardevoir is pretty much the same as using Gardevoir on the team. So I think at this point, I’m gonna make it work on my next run of alpha sapphire. Hopefully i can get that run going sometime before the end of the year. Soul silver though has been taking a long time, and might go on for a while when it’s time to take on red (so much level grinding).
And that's exactly why one gen later, we got Froslass.
@@jaretco6423 and I have a small love hate relationship with that Pokémon because of this. Though good luck getting me to use one in Hoenn. Considering the fact the only dawn stone you get in the main story isn’t until like right at the end. Also Froslass ain’t gonna survive against Garchomp in sinnoh. That’s just the problem with this family, bad type, and bad stats. And yet I’m gonna do all I can next time I go through Hoenn to make Glalie good, just to give it more love.
I’ll give Brute Bonnet some slack because it’s still a strong offense pokemon, trying to play it as pure support is a bad idea when it wants to kill
We miss that intro JPR 🥲
Do the opposite, "Terrible" pokemon that everybody uses.
Omg, *YES!*
Having only recently found out hydration goodra can instantly rest without sleep, I now seek to use one in a run
The following cross-gen evolutions:
Dusknoir
Electivire
Magmortar
All of which have a BST of 525 or higher, and yet they almost never not suck ass (Magmortar being the only one to do something in the lower-tiers at some point, can’t say the same with the other two tho)
Also shoutouts to Florges for being painfully generic despite having a massive whopping 552 BST, that’s even higher than Volcarona’s and even Urshifu’s
3:52 I'm so sorry bro
So true
It might sound odd but i think greedents moveset looks good on paper but its stats don’t help it. It gets belly drum but its not outspeeding anything outside of trick room. Cheek pouch + stuff cheeks is a good combo but it has such low defenses that it doesn’t matter
I actually was able to make Guzzlord work really well in Showdown by making it a tank under Trick Room with Drain Punch. Even with its low defenses and 4x weakness to Fairy, its monstrous HP more than makes up for that and keeps it on the field a long time. It also gets really fun pulling free attack boosts with each KO it gets, especially when I have Oranguru right next to it using Instruct.
Munkidori and Fezandipiti I also feel can work great under the right circumstances with the right team. For instance, pair Munkidori up with Farigiraf to stop Sucker Punch.
I'm glad Greninja ain't on this list :)
hey didn't expect to see you here
but yeah greninja is a great pokemon in competitive and probably the best for playthroughs in x and y as well (don't know as much about the second one)
yet
it isnt great in vgc due to the nature of double battles but it is definitely good in single battles
well until they nerfed protean and battle bond in SV
@@SJrad he's still good in singles but his play style doesn't really fit doubles
Goodra is an incredible Pokemon for playthroughs, Rom Hacks, and as a defensive core and pivot, especially Hisuian Goodra. I think you're missing the big picture on one of the best Pseudo legendary Pokemon in the game, no joke.
Convenient that you mentioned brute bonnet because he very recently was the first paradox pokemon to fall all the way down to Untiered in competitive pokémon.
That montage of Guzzlord screaming had me rolling
did you use defense curl first
Using base Goodra isn’t a smart idea given the Hisuian one put it out of a job and is pretty good, but I’ll still put my original gooey boy on the team because I love him that much (well, I love them both, but my point still stands)
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Actually Fezandipiti does see play in OU as a niche pivot with Beat Up Toxic Chain as well as a good overall check to Darkrai.
Leaving work on a Friday night hearing "good morning everybody, goooood morning"
I love it! Goodra was my favorite from PLA... :(
It's Hisuian form definitely wins the "most improved" award from its original. Well it and Zoroark really
Its funny how Mega Audino wasnt mentioned but Glalie is. At least Glalie has a niche. It could be a fast suicide lead that sets spikes and then explodes with one of the strongest attacks in the game. It could also just hit hard with Double Edge and Body Slam, or pick up kos with ice shard. It also has earthquake for coverage, which is pretty good. Not great, but not the worst. Audino tho is outclassed by its tanky pink brethren and saddled with a genuinely awful ability in Healer. Reggenerator is far better but youd have to use regular Audino to have that privilege.
Every time I see the future paradox Pokémon, even now, all I can think about is All Tomorrows and how buck wild “Pokémon billions of years in the future” could’ve been.
"Babies!"
Yoooo Togepi men-
"Maybe not that last one"
Oh...
Seeing old shady p in the mega clips was a blast from the past
After all these years, among us still manages to get a single chuckle out of me.
Defensive Mono-Grass is something that never works? Pretty true, but...
Tangrowth says hi
Gamefreak 2006: Regigigas is too overpowered so we gave it an ability that makes it borderline useless
Gamefreak 2019: sword dog go brrrr
5:34 who told you hisuian goodra is not good wtf
I'm gonna mention my favorite Pokemon, Electivire. Yes it got a new physical electric move through the DLC, but it's risky and not as high BP as Electivire needs. I don't know what Game Freak was thinking trying to make it work both as a physical electric type, but also has decent special attack for gen 4 standards. It just left it being slow enough to get outsped by fast mons and weak enough to get oneshot. You can say the same thing for Luxray.
9:43 oh hey Arron
I don't think VGC will ever forget the day they were ravaged by the twin tails
Medicham and Hitmonchan being two of my favorites of all time: “why can’t I just like things are good” 😂😂
Miss you Mega Medicham 🫡
I just evolved my Goomy to Sligoo on my first ever Y play through.
regardless, i really grew on Goodra over the years
when mine in the Sword game had Sludge Wave ready for multi-player challenges
(a partner of mine used to open our matches with Amoongus, so it's all good)
so don't worry my guy, i got you on your favorite Pokèmon 🐌🐉👍🏼
The sad thing is, Slaking could fixed by simply introducing an exclusive move that counts as a Truant turn when used.
This gives options for the player while maintaining the "Can only do something every other turn" limitation. Yeah it takes up a move slot but thats a pretty small sacrifice to make Slaking usable without requiring partner support.
I always make Goodra work, usually as a physical attacker with Sap Sipper in doubles. With SV adding Meowscarada being able to use Petal Blizzard, it can get out of hand real quick, especially H-Goodra. Can't leave my #1 fave behind.
Good thing that stats are not the only criteria I use when team building.
I still wish Goodra had been part poison type. It would have fit thematically and kept it from getting pushed around by the, then, new fairy type
Meganium. Can set screens, Leech seed, synthesis, Giga drain, stomp.
Give it a light clay.
Reflect, light screen.
Leech seed. And stomp to paralyze.
Passive heals each turn. Massive defence with the screen. And paralysis to stop the opponent from attacking.
Give it Big Root.
Giga drain, leech seed.
Screens again.
Massive defence boost, and great healing.
The thing is, Meganium's problem is that it is outclassed by most grass types which is why it doesn't see use, everything you just mentioned can also be done with Serperior for example who even before having contrary, was pretty fast and had only slightly less bulk (and you want to be fast for leech seed shenanigans)
Meganium also doesn't have the utility of Roselia and Ferroseed or the bulk and regeneration of Tangela, heck even thwacky keeps Meganium oit of a job.
I still don’t understand why Goodra didn’t have a secondary Water typing
One Pokémon I would like to point out is Hoopa (regular, not unbound)
Hoopa has a great special attack and special defense, but has a lackluster hp, defense and speed, being 4× weak to both ghost and dark is extremely unfortunate since Knock off is very common on various Pokémon, even most fighting types typically carries Knock off for both coverage and utility.
Having a mediocre 70 speed means it gets outsped by so many offensive Pokémon, unless it uses a choice scarf, however, Hoopa also commonly carries life orb for damage to make up for not having a super strong STAB move, psychic and shadow ball are not weak but not strong enough.
Its issue is that it has to pick either scarf or life orb, without scarf Hoopa is food for faster sweepers and/or revenge killers, and without life orb, it's not strong enough to wallbreak.
One final thing I would like to point out is that Hoopa has a mostly deadweight attack stat, if it's attack and speed stat were swapped, I believe Hoopa would find a niche,as for it's ability, instead of having the mostly useless Magician ability, I suggest it could have either Magic guard, Levitate, Prankster or Adaptability (at least one of them could be an excellent candidate for a hidden ability)
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Munkidori pretty much has to run a Focus Sash to see any meaningful chance of pulling off its set, & Meganium is severely neglected even among Johto starters. It looks as though a good chunk of the mons covered could do with moves like Body Press and/or a specially based equivalent of it (like in Umbreon's case, who out of all the Eeveelutions, probably suffers among the most from them all suffering from shallow movepools), plus such support moves as Stockpile for Guzzlord & Rapid Spin for Glalie line (idk if Ice Spinner is meaningful support for it to use). Draining moves like Leech Life from the buff would do Archeops line great things to offset Defeatist & a move like Sticky Web would do ones like Goodra quite some good alongside moves such as Encore or Torment (for opposite reasons) for it, Slaking & Regigigas in unexpected ways, with so many potentially useful move & item options to shore up the underwhelming & neglected ones
2:30 Even then, both Slither Wing and Raging Bolt are naturally faster than Iron Thorns, so that's an even bigger slap in the face to him 💀
Meganium is good at being an annoying opponent I suppose. At least Venusaur couldn't get poisoned and had access to Sleep Powder and Leech Seed.
gamefreak hates regigigas so much they gave it an ability in a game without abilities
I picked Meganium as my starter as a kid playing silver because I liked dinosaurs and it looked like a dinosaur.
If brute bonnet was named Unga Bungus I think it would get way more respect
It's like they never learned from early gen Flareon. Don't give monsters stats and moves that don't match unless it's in that "one off cover your ass" thing (and yes, I know that last bit wasn't possible early gen games).
11:39 also my favorite gen 2 starter, and Slaking is one of my favorite gen 3 Pokemon 😅
@ 11:59 Meganium should have gotten the Dragon or Fairy Typing in Gen 6.
I think the other gen 2 starters should be dual typed as well
Well they can't do a dragon starter, it breaks the perfect type trio since dragon resists fire, water, and grass. Fairy is fitting for it but due to it not being catchable in the wild, I could easily imagine Gamefreak just not caring about buffing it. I hope it gets a grass/fairy form in a future Legends game though
If Goodra had a second type:
Water - literally needs rainfall to evolve
Poison - the flesh-dissolving ooze
Bug - snails are bug enough right?
Goodra doesn't have the acid anymore I believe, only Sliggoo does. Basically evolved to get rid of it to be able to be the gentle giant it is. The line could have been Dragon/Water into Dragon Poison, then back to Dragon/Water again.
Jesus. Is that really what Guzzlord sounds like?!
@ 8:17
I like Mega Mewtwo X’s design, because it just enhances what was already there. Plus, my dumb brain never studied Psystrike and thought it was a physical move like Psycho Cut, instead of a Special Move dealing Physical Damage like Psyshock.
I have since learned otherwise, but Mega Mewtwo X will always LOOK better aesthetically compared to Mega Mewtwo Y.
Meganium may forgettable and underwhelming but it happens to be one of my favorite Pokémon and definitely serves as the perfect fully evolved starter for Mallow from "Sun and Moon" (my favorite girl in the anime).
I’m planing to use Goodra on my Violet playthrough and to see how they did my boy dirty is heart breaking.
Don't believe the propaganda, Goodra is still a pretty damn good pokemon.
they should make a pokemon that has horrible stats when you catch it in the wild, but when you breed it you get its pre evolution, a crazy strong baby you can only get by breeding with better stats than its evolution. i think that would be really funny
edit: maybe it could be based on one of those bugs with a decent larval form and a very weak adult stage, like the fishfly or mayfly? the nymphs are aquatic and can live up to 2 years (with fishfly nymphs usually being predators and mayfly nymphs usually being detritivores), while their adult stages are incapable of eating and die in less than a week
maybe it also goes from an interesting type into a generic bug/flying type?
I think that was what trapinch was supposed to be based off of
@@MrtheFckface trapinch was based off an antlion larva, which lives on land. i mean they are related to fishflies but they're not the same insect
Fun fact: MEganium is alright in Great League for PoGO
What they did to Iron Thorns is an absolute tragedy
I know mons like Rhyperior, Electavire, & Magmortar or have pretty high BST. All at over 530 but are let down by a bad typing or that one stat that is lacking where it shouldn't.
At least Rhyperior had good meta/competitive streak.
Charizard, despite being GameFreak's golden child, relies on its generational gifts too much to actually be good. Base Charizard sits at a base 109 Special Attack, which is not picking up any KO's in today's meta without the Sun and Solar Power. Not to mention that without Heavy-Duty Boots, it gets torn to pieces by Stealth Rock. Its Mega Evolutions (especially Mega Y) would usually outclass any other Fire-type and its G-Max form could launch off 150 Base Power moves that got boosted to the sky in Sun, but it's simply a tragic story for our poor little guy, Base Charizard.
It would be nice if there was a Sp. Def version of Body Press
Turn that 150 Sp. Def on Goodra into an offensive stat
Goodra was my second shiny I ever found so I got a soft spot for it
when it comes to Fezandipiti i seriously wonder why it's stat distribution is so weird
What bugs me about Archeops is that the reason GF gave it Defeatist because without it, the Pokemon would be too O.P. and I'm thinking, did they forget Aerodyctyl exist? It's also an Fossil Pokemon with the same typing. Except it's more powerful than Archeops. It even got an Mega Evolution one gen afterwards for pete sakes.
Glalie was doomed from the start. If you have only one Mega, you want it to last long and do some reap the rewards of the crazy buffs it got. Becoming a cold nuke as your only viable option accomplishes neither of these.
How on earth did they manage to give Mewtwo moveset problems? That’s actually kind of impressive.
I’m glad they at least tried leaning into that part of Mewtwo by giving us the option of a physical Mega Evolution, though, even if it was kind of a flop.
Not sure if it counts.... but if it weren't for the team preview deal coming in the exact same generation, then Zoroark's mere existence would've shooken up the PvP landscape drastically.
Sceptile with it's physical movepool hindered by its physical attack.
Tyrantrum has a pretty good typing, abilities, and moves, but it's Speed has screwed it over.
i really love goodra too. i think Dragonite barely edges it out but I love them both. Make goodra fly and I am even more in! :D
5:47 Yooooooo, a fellow Goodra fan.
I never forget goodra, if it’s in the game, it’s on the team. :)
Wait, wasn't mew two x op with powerup punch and another type coverage punch?
I've seen VGC players try to use these Pokémon when they were allowed. Unfortunately as expected, they weren't consistently successful with them. Maybe Gen 10 will buff them (or nerf others to make them somewhat more viable)