Found the answer to how much resistance we are shooting for when rolling your pushrods between your fingers. Working on an old '79 ford your videos keep me excited to keep on working haha. Edit: For anyone wondering I took a deep dive in the comments for Derek's replies to a similar question. Turns out you still want it to spin pretty freely in your fingers. You just want to stop when there is no more play up and down. You are looking for the push rod to be right up against the arm no more no less and then you do your 3/4 turns.
I’ve been watching Derek for years now and went back and watched all the videos he’s posted and honestly he is my favorite Content Creator. No matter what’s going on in the world or in my life anytime I see a video is posted I watch it. I’m not one for wanting to meet those that I enjoy watching because I know they aren’t the same off camera. But It would be an absolute honor to meet Derek. If you see this Derek I am glad to have been apart of your journey and I believe you deserve everything you have and more. You have worked so hard for it. Congratulations on 1.5 Million and many more to come! 🎉🎉
Brother I feel exactly the same… this dude is a inspiration, I’ve always wanted a son so that I could have a relationship like Derek has with his boys. But I actually just bought a 74 Squarebody k25 camper special with a 383 stroker and a 700R4 and a custom adapted NP205 transfer case on-er and boy I’ll tell you what…. I took her out front of my suburbian household and gave-er a good ol floggin, popped that sucker in two wheel low and roasted the 35” mud terrains and whelp….. I think I collapsed a few lifters and possibly ruined the cam…. She’s a knockin like a good ol Jehovah’s Witness, so I’m watching this here video to get some tech tips cause I’m about to replace all that junk. Thanks to VGG for being the go to! We love you guys!!
I've been around small block chevys for over 30 years, and have NEVER seen or heard of that method! This proves that you'll always learn something new! 😉👍
I remember when this came out I’ve never done anything like this then And here I putting new heads on a sbc for the first time watching a video I watched 5 years ago not knowing what the fuck he was doing I was just like “car talk=cool”
Your way is without a doubt- THE EASIEST WAY EVER!!!!! I went 2 full revolutions just to be sure, but the 90,90,90,90 was all it actually needed! Super easy!!!! Thanks!!!!!!!
Have been doing this method for a very long time. My olé man taught me this when he began teaching my engines as a kid. This method works wonders and has never failed.
i'm 26 years old and building a 71 vette in London UK, nobody here to show me anything, have to figure it all out myself via the internet, currently trying to diagnose a misfire and want to rule out any valve issues, this video was immensely helpful, thank you Derek!
@@AppleReviews new coil, wires, msd 6al, holley sniper EFI, i took the valve covers and found some loose rocker arms a few months ago and just tightened the loose ones, so i think that has caused the misfire, now i will set the lash to 0 for all the rockers
if the valves are to tight will cause a miss also. you can back them off a 1/4 turn and see if that helps. you can also do that with the engine running and if it doesn't make a difference tighten it back where it was, but it gets messy running with the valve covers off.
A guy has been watching your channel for quite some time. I’m building my first motor and I’m installing the final bits. Thank you for this! Every other video I found wanted me to attend Harvard or get a digical degree. Appreciate you.
I can do basic mechanics on most old school cars. One thing I had never tried was adjusting the valves after I had installed some valve seals. I watched this video and tried his method. Car fired right up and ran smooth as silk. That was almost 3 years ago. 1979 Corvette.
I learned that years ago my dad didn't teach me jack so I had to depend on the old hot rodders around the house to show me the tricks ......good stuff Derek love your show
My 90 K5 was blowin smoke on startup. After watching this i had the courage to change all the valve seals on the 350. Keep up the great videos, you never know who actually needs to see them!
Hey Derek! I saw this method before on other videos but no one explains it as plain straightforward as You. Thank You. It's about 30 degrees and snowing here in Germany, so a guy will go and try this on his 460 in the driveway.
I’ve been fucking with my 4.9l for the past two days because I can’t seem to get rid of a damn noisy valve. Watched this and tried it. Gone. So glad you exist.
Huuuuuuge thank you! Iv been dickin around for a year with the valves in my 289 and this method has resulted in the best running engine Iv ever had!! THANK YOU!! As a fellow Minnesotan keep the rubber on the road.
I used this method when i built my 350 small block 2 years ago , turned out great and haven't had to make any adjustments to this day . Much faster and easier to do than the standard way it's done . Good video and very good info. Thanks !
I watched countless videos on adjusting the valves on my my 97 Camaro SS 350 LT1 before I stumbled upon this one. It was a lightbulb moment and it made so much sense how you simplified the process. I had over tightened and under tightened rockers and my 350 sounded like a diesel. Followed the procedure outlined and she is purring once again!
Well every single person who connented says it worked. Not even one person , not one said it didn't work I believe the peanut gally has finally agreed on a subject. Your father was a very smart man! I am going out right now and doing this. Ty
I’ve been a big fan for over a year. This made me a bigger fan. I had someone put sugar water in my gas tank last week. I caught it, cleaned my tank but didn’t pull plugs to get water out, started it but it blew the head gasket. Never went this far in repair in my 15 years since getting my license but I could never afford to pay someone to fix my vehicles. I got it put together till the point of valve adjustment and this is by far the most helpful vid I’ve seen for it. Thank you Derek!
I gotta say Man, You definitely drew me in with your explanation and Then story about your Dad. My Grandpa always did it that way to the point . When its done its done. You Rock Brother!
I’ve watched your videos for months, mostly for fun. Until I had a rocker arm break in my Huskee lawnmower and the pushrod came loose. Thanks to you, I knew how to find zero lash and preload. Thank you... you saved me money!
Well, that was the last one I needed to watch. I've now watched all episodes of VGG. Great contact. Love your sense of humor. I'm looking forward to more episodes! Hopefully you will get enough followers you can quit your day job and do this full time, that would be awesome!
Derek you have come a long way! But these older videos are still GOLD! You have done a lot for car culture! Keep making old stuff less intimidating for enthusiasts!
I was taught a very similar method, you start at TDC set zero lash rotate 1 full turn, check and set zero lash again do another full rotation and if everything is good then give it 1/2 to 3/4 turn to set preload and your done. It's worked every time I've done it and it was taught to be by a old school engine builder. Very cool to see it used by someone else, it definitely brings back memories!
Thanks for helping out the people that want to do this adjustment on their own, I am one of them, do you think it's necessary to do 90 degrees turn to check for clearance like his doing the adjustment or I am fine by just setting it at TDC set zero lash, then proceed with full turns until is zero lash, then add 3/4 turn, i have a 1997 mercury mountaineer 5.0 L, i want to fix my clattering on the valves, the only thing is that I do not want to open the whole thing just the valve covers, how can I spin the pushrods. Trying this method, please help me out, thanks.
@LuisMartinez-fr9gq you'll have plenty of room to rotate the push rods by just removing the valve covers. From what I've learned both methods have the same outcome, the way I do it just has fewer steps. Now here's the problem, these methods only work if you have fully adjustable rockers and if I remember correctly, factory ford heads of that year have pedal stool style rockers which mean that they are tightened down and torqued to spec, everything is preset from the factory so double check before attempting any adjustment. I suggest buying a service/ repair manual from your local auto parts store. Now here's another suggestion, if it's a lite chatter you can usually quite it down by using a oil stabilizer like Lucas oil stabilizer (I use it in everything new or high milage) just make sure to follow the directions on the bottle. I hope this helps and remember, don't just take one person's word for it, always do your research and good luck with your repairs.
Hi friend thanks for your replied, I like your honestly by explaining things, sincerely I appreciated what your are telling me in regards to my car it has to be torque down, I am going to get the book just to double check type of rocker arms. Again thank you for your help. I will keep digging just to play safe. I am worry about it but I hope I can get it done with all the support I have received. Thanks.
I was watching a program on Motor Trend TV and I was thinking, I've seen this guy before and I recognize the voice. Took me a few days and BAM! You are the guy that does Roadworthy Rescue!!! Good show, don't know how long it's been on but it was the first time I've seen it. Wish you much success.
I've tried static (by the factory manual) and running (also by an older factory manual iirc), even bought a set of deflectors to prevent oil splash (don't do that, just cut some valve covers if you want to do it running). This method looks like the simplest and most trouble free/idiot proof method. Thank you!
Thanks for helping a guy out! I really appreciate it! I remembered seeing this on roadworthy rescues and searched and found an OG video made by a guy a long time ago! You’ve came a long way Derik!
So funny, I watched this video years ago and came back to this one specifically since I'm installing some vortec heads tomorrow. Thanks a million for making this so easy Derek!
This WORKED GREAT! Thanks so much. I tried at least 3 other techniques and still had issues. Tried this and the start started and ran after sitting for over a year with valve timing issues.
I'm in the process of rebuilding a 1966 chevelle with a 396. Just put the heads on with a multi layer steel .080 head gasket and I'm going to try this method you've shown. Simplest and most thorough way I've seen, thus far. Thanks, bud.
Derek.... you're amazing! I use a variation of this method on my motorcycle. Dont use timing Marks anymore or anything. Literally throw her on a stand in 5th gear, roll the tire and as soon as they drop off the lobe I gauge, adjust and keep going. Works like a charm
Man alive! This will take away all of the fun with adjusting roller rockers and oil flying everywhere including onto brand new ceramic coated headers! Thanks for sharing.
The easiest SBC adjustment. Been using that method forever. Works every time. Edit- I was always taught to soak the lifters in oil first. I guess some do it dry. Soaking has always worked for me.
There is no reason whatsoever to soak lifters. Put some assembly lube on them as you're dropping them in. Adjust the pre-load. Prime the oil pump before initial start-up.
I'm building my first 350 now for a 86 Monte Carlo SS. I always look for VGG videos first and this one is gold. I was intimidated with doing the valve adjustments but i was able to follow along with this and got it done in a couple hours. Can't wait to finish up and fire off my first engine build. Thanks VGG. I love the channel.
Going back through your videos to get some tips and tricks before diving into my wife’s square body. It was her dads and she got it when he passed. So now we are ready to give it the love it deserves! Couldn’t do it without all of your hard work and dedication! Thank you for everything you do for the car/truck community!!
I was kinda hesitant to do this but you made me a bit more confident about it. I don’t leave comments very often I genuinely mean that. Thank you very much 🖤
Derek you are the man. Thank You for posting this. I have been doing it the hard way for years. This gives me that little extra time for enjoying my creations!! Keep up the great work.
Hey, Vice Grip Garage! Thanks a lot for the info, I just used your valve adjustment method on my 1973 Ford 300 6 cylinder. Now if the carburetor would just get here I will be on the road again! : )
I saw a lot of other videos on adjusting valves on fords. Totally confusing and didn’t make sense. Thankyou and your dad for the easiest way I’ve seen to adjust valves! I trust you. It totally makes sense!
bro you saved me man all this 1357 e 1248 i rotate i did this 15 times and every time ended up with mad lash did this and no pro. thanks for the good content.
We do it the same way. I would mention your method is great for dry pushrods and lifters. My method for both lubed and dry is up and down movement to get to zero lash. If they are lubed and you spin them you can actually depress the lifter. Hydraulic is so forgiving though. that's my 2cents. Great vid.
Wow adjusting valves has always been the reason I pull out my book... wow... thank you so much. My dad taught me how to work on cars he worked on them his whole life for the Navy, air force, and general motors. He was a walking textbook and he had an hour process for this lol
Thanks man... just rebuilt my first 351w for my plow truck and I just wanted to be certain it's done the same as the sbc's. I greatly appreciate you spreading the knowledge you have. Thank you my friend
@@tavo24vv27 yes.. its worked great for my 5.8L f150 4x4. Except I followed the ford specs on rocker arm torque specs. Which is 22-ftlbs after finding zero lash on top dead center of each cylinder you're lashing valves on. 2 full rotations will allow you to lash each cylinder in firing order one quarter turn at a time.
Hello my friend thanks for your explanation. I want to ask you if I can do what you did on your ford 5.8L, I have a 1997 mercury mountaineer 5.0L, I have not open the valve covers yet but I know a mechanic told me that I have a clatting on the heads, I want to take the opportunity to do this myself by listening and reading from people like you, do you think my truck goes by torquing like yours or I just need to set zero lash then 3/4 turn to adjust, please help me out my friend, thanks in advance hope you know more than me about my vehicle. To adjust valves.
@@LuisMartinez-fr9gq you need to research is the 5.0L for that year Mercury is a roller Cam and Roller lifters before anything. If they are roller then yes you can do it the same way Derek from VGG shows you in the video. Knowing the firing order and going cylinder to cylinder by order will save a lot of time and hassle.
Outstanding; My dad taught me engine running; half a cardboard box lid pinched on the bottom of the valves to guild the oil back into the crankcase. Adjust while running 1/2 turn after no tick tick.
Thank you and your father I'm assembling a csb 350 for my fiancée to put in her dad's mud truck its a long story but I'm just really trying to get it done for her so she has a chance to drive it and this is going to save me some serious time which hasn't been on my side in awhile now. It's also my first complete build I'm no mechanic but I'm trying and triple checking everything
Awesome video, I am rebuilding my first Holden (Australia) v8, and I wasn't 100% on adjusting the rockers....you Sir and this video are fantastic. Thank you 🙏
Yeah my dad taught me this in the mid 90's in front of the local general store, a young neighbor kid showed up and had an engine tick in his old 80s c10, dad said it was an easy fix, pulled the valve covers and did it right there in the parking lot, got him to bump it over with the starter
I'll repeat myself , this is amazing . I just watched your big block build . I've never seen it done this way . No book tells you to do this . I;ve always started with top dead center in #1 , then follow the book as to which intake and exhaust to adjust , rotate 360 degrees and go by the book as to which E or I valves to adjust , your method is by far eaisier and you can't get mixed up . , as I have done , LOL
Thank you , you are the 2nd video to show this way. Reading your comments I’m a believer. All other shows firing order, feel for compression on and on.
Getting ready to put heads on my old work truck this weekend. I work on tractors and farm equipment I’ve set a bunch of solid lifters but never hydraulic thanks for the help love your channel
I did not say "any lifter". I said, hydraulic lifter, huge difference. The science behind the operation doesn't change with brand name. Its either hydraulic flat tappet, hydralic roller, or its a solid - plain and simple
Just put a new cam, lifters, heads on my GMC. I have vaguely heard about this method but never understood it until I watched this video. Thank you very much 😊
Doesn't matter, preload pumped you may open a valve because the lifter is "solid". Not pumped you'll drop the plunger into the lifter. It doesn't matter... 1/2 to 3/4 turns pumped or dry creates same preload
@@ViceGripGarage so when I pop off the vcovers what I do first.... As far as turning the engine and do the intake have to be off cause my motor awredy in and together I just gave a chatter
I've been scrolling TH-cam for a week now looking for help any help on adjusting these valves and I'm a decent mechanic I consider myself a decent mechanic but valves are so intimidating you sir are genius thank you because I come just luckily come across this video took me all of 45 minutes and now my van is running been down for weeks thank you thank you thank you thank you!
Nice, that's almost exactly how I was taught by my neighbor, except a 1/2 turn instead of 3/4 when done. I adjusted them wrong 4 or 5 times before I learned this. Great tips!
Thanks Derek. Going to use this video when I do valve seals in my 81 Z28. was more intimidated about adjusting the valves than doing the seals. Taking it on a road trip to the car cruise in Ocean city md.
Your small gas engine most likely does not have hydraulic lifters. Common lash is 3-5 thousandths intake and 5-7 thousandths exhaust for a B&S. Just trying to help a feller out.
@@Werewolfmage Too loose and the compression release stops working, too tight and you may bend/break a push rod or wear out your cam.(I am not a mechanic, just too cheap to bring my junk to the shop)
Hey vicegrip just want to say thank for sharing your video to a guy like me that have never adjusted valve before n my life and it certainly worked everything you do and that's what I did an my 389 Pontiac runs great, thanks again clarence Washington.
My dad drove with his knee too, he didn’t intentionally teach me that but I learned it anyway 😜 and my step father taught me to adjust rockers and valve lash 🤷🏽♂️ true story
Wow... I am about to do my 1st time adjustment on my 1st F150 pickup ever. This makes complete sense to me. I am gonna do it this way. Thanks for the insight and technique.
Found the answer to how much resistance we are shooting for when rolling your pushrods between your fingers. Working on an old '79 ford your videos keep me excited to keep on working haha.
Edit: For anyone wondering I took a deep dive in the comments for Derek's replies to a similar question. Turns out you still want it to spin pretty freely in your fingers. You just want to stop when there is no more play up and down. You are looking for the push rod to be right up against the arm no more no less and then you do your 3/4 turns.
I’ve been watching Derek for years now and went back and watched all the videos he’s posted and honestly he is my favorite Content Creator. No matter what’s going on in the world or in my life anytime I see a video is posted I watch it. I’m not one for wanting to meet those that I enjoy watching because I know they aren’t the same off camera. But It would be an absolute honor to meet Derek. If you see this Derek I am glad to have been apart of your journey and I believe you deserve everything you have and more. You have worked so hard for it. Congratulations on 1.5 Million and many more to come! 🎉🎉
Brother I feel exactly the same… this dude is a inspiration, I’ve always wanted a son so that I could have a relationship like Derek has with his boys. But I actually just bought a 74 Squarebody k25 camper special with a 383 stroker and a 700R4 and a custom adapted NP205 transfer case on-er and boy I’ll tell you what…. I took her out front of my suburbian household and gave-er a good ol floggin, popped that sucker in two wheel low and roasted the 35” mud terrains and whelp….. I think I collapsed a few lifters and possibly ruined the cam…. She’s a knockin like a good ol Jehovah’s Witness, so I’m watching this here video to get some tech tips cause I’m about to replace all that junk. Thanks to VGG for being the go to! We love you guys!!
I've been around small block chevys for over 30 years, and have NEVER seen or heard of that method! This proves that you'll always learn something new! 😉👍
Do you spin the pushrod till it can't spin anymore or till there is tension. Which one?
Very slightest touch. Cant move up or down but no pressure,that is zero lash
@@ViceGripGarage thanks man
Have you pred soaked or primed the lifters before or are they dry?
@@ViceGripGarage but they still got to spin right
Says a lot about a guy when he posts such a good video and 5 years later I’m returning to it to help with my LT1 rebuild.
Thanks Derek. For all you do
I remember when this came out
I’ve never done anything like this then
And here I putting new heads on a sbc for the first time watching a video I watched 5 years ago not knowing what the fuck he was doing
I was just like “car talk=cool”
This guy is the reason I'm absle to rebuild my small block
Your dad taught you - you're reaching your kids. That's GOLD. We need more of it.
Thanks Gary
@@ViceGripGarage Yes Derek , with you teaching your kids the way you do they will be way ahead of the game as adults .
@@bobdavis3389 They will be driving electric cars as adults and wont have valves.
Your way is without a doubt- THE EASIEST WAY EVER!!!!! I went 2 full revolutions just to be sure, but the 90,90,90,90 was all it actually needed! Super easy!!!! Thanks!!!!!!!
Glad it worked
Do you have to pre soak the lifters
@jimmytheriot8978 no
@@ViceGripGaragedo I need to be in Tdc first?
@@ultralord1039no
This worked magnificently! Went thru it two full rotations and set them 1/2 turn each and BAM! Fired up like a new one. Thanks for the lesson
Do the pushrods under load supposed to still spin?
Have been doing this method for a very long time. My olé man taught me this when he began teaching my engines as a kid. This method works wonders and has never failed.
i'm 26 years old and building a 71 vette in London UK, nobody here to show me anything, have to figure it all out myself via the internet, currently trying to diagnose a misfire and want to rule out any valve issues, this video was immensely helpful, thank you Derek!
@@AppleReviews new coil, wires, msd 6al, holley sniper EFI, i took the valve covers and found some loose rocker arms a few months ago and just tightened the loose ones, so i think that has caused the misfire, now i will set the lash to 0 for all the rockers
if the valves are to tight will cause a miss also. you can back them off a 1/4 turn and see if that helps. you can also do that with the engine running and if it doesn't make a difference tighten it back where it was, but it gets messy running with the valve covers off.
@@642lin i think I've sorted it, i posted a 40 second driving clip on my channel, the car seems low on power tho
Just used this method and worked perfectly! Thanks for passing on info that I will pass on to my little ones.
My first boss taught me this method. I was fresh out of tech school and knew everything/nothing. I had trouble believing it could work, but it does.
This is the perfect method for a simple guy like myself. Never seen this before, thanks for the tip!
A guy has been watching your channel for quite some time. I’m building my first motor and I’m installing the final bits. Thank you for this! Every other video I found wanted me to attend Harvard or get a digical degree. Appreciate you.
I can do basic mechanics on most old school cars. One thing I had never tried was adjusting the valves after I had installed some valve seals. I watched this video and tried his method. Car fired right up and ran smooth as silk. That was almost 3 years ago. 1979 Corvette.
I learned that years ago my dad didn't teach me jack so I had to depend on the old hot rodders around the house to show me the tricks ......good stuff Derek love your show
Thanks Todd
The best way to set valves on any hydraulic cam. Period. Derek is the man. Just swapped heads and used this method. Perfect.
My 90 K5 was blowin smoke on startup. After watching this i had the courage to change all the valve seals on the 350. Keep up the great videos, you never know who actually needs to see them!
Hey Derek! I saw this method before on other videos but no one explains it as plain straightforward as You. Thank You.
It's about 30 degrees and snowing here in Germany, so a guy will go and try this on his 460 in the driveway.
Awesome how a guy keeps it simple and helps others!!!
I’ve been fucking with my 4.9l for the past two days because I can’t seem to get rid of a damn noisy valve. Watched this and tried it. Gone. So glad you exist.
This method works. You sir are a jedi
😎👍
What about after you turn the crank a full turn and the rockers are loose again?retighten them?
@@151bradhatt Yes
@@151bradhatt you have to go at least 2 full turns, every 90° of rotation, adjust whatever is loose!
Huuuuuuge thank you! Iv been dickin around for a year with the valves in my 289 and this method has resulted in the best running engine Iv ever had!! THANK YOU!! As a fellow Minnesotan keep the rubber on the road.
I used this method when i built my 350 small block 2 years ago , turned out great and haven't had to make any adjustments to this day . Much faster and easier to do than the standard way it's done . Good video and very good info. Thanks !
I watched countless videos on adjusting the valves on my my 97 Camaro SS 350 LT1 before I stumbled upon this one. It was a lightbulb moment and it made so much sense how you simplified the process. I had over tightened and under tightened rockers and my 350 sounded like a diesel. Followed the procedure outlined and she is purring once again!
Did you start in top dead center? Or is it ok to just set to zero lash and spin 90?
Well every single person who connented says it worked. Not even one person , not one said it didn't work I believe the peanut gally has finally agreed on a subject. Your father was a very smart man! I am going out right now and doing this. Ty
I’ve been a big fan for over a year. This made me a bigger fan. I had someone put sugar water in my gas tank last week. I caught it, cleaned my tank but didn’t pull plugs to get water out, started it but it blew the head gasket. Never went this far in repair in my 15 years since getting my license but I could never afford to pay someone to fix my vehicles. I got it put together till the point of valve adjustment and this is by far the most helpful vid I’ve seen for it. Thank you Derek!
I gotta say Man, You definitely drew me in with your explanation and Then story about your Dad. My Grandpa always did it that way to the point . When its done its done. You Rock Brother!
This is the same method my Father taught me when I was about 14, I am 36 now. I never forgot it and have always had great success with it!
Nice memorie
You, sir, are a shadetree genius.
You mention in you ad video about teaching people. While you humorous videos are fun more like this are needed keep it up
Thanks Luke
I’ve watched your videos for months, mostly for fun. Until I had a rocker arm break in my Huskee lawnmower and the pushrod came loose. Thanks to you, I knew how to find zero lash and preload. Thank you... you saved me money!
Well, that was the last one I needed to watch. I've now watched all episodes of VGG. Great contact. Love your sense of humor. I'm looking forward to more episodes! Hopefully you will get enough followers you can quit your day job and do this full time, that would be awesome!
That sure would be awesome! Here's hoping
Derek you have come a long way! But these older videos are still GOLD!
You have done a lot for car culture! Keep making old stuff less intimidating for enthusiasts!
I was taught a very similar method, you start at TDC set zero lash rotate 1 full turn, check and set zero lash again do another full rotation and if everything is good then give it 1/2 to 3/4 turn to set preload and your done. It's worked every time I've done it and it was taught to be by a old school engine builder. Very cool to see it used by someone else, it definitely brings back memories!
Thanks for helping out the people that want to do this adjustment on their own, I am one of them, do you think it's necessary to do 90 degrees turn to check for clearance like his doing the adjustment or I am fine by just setting it at TDC set zero lash, then proceed with full turns until is zero lash, then add 3/4 turn, i have a 1997 mercury mountaineer 5.0 L, i want to fix my clattering on the valves, the only thing is that I do not want to open the whole thing just the valve covers, how can I spin the pushrods. Trying this method, please help me out, thanks.
@LuisMartinez-fr9gq you'll have plenty of room to rotate the push rods by just removing the valve covers. From what I've learned both methods have the same outcome, the way I do it just has fewer steps. Now here's the problem, these methods only work if you have fully adjustable rockers and if I remember correctly, factory ford heads of that year have pedal stool style rockers which mean that they are tightened down and torqued to spec, everything is preset from the factory so double check before attempting any adjustment. I suggest buying a service/ repair manual from your local auto parts store. Now here's another suggestion, if it's a lite chatter you can usually quite it down by using a oil stabilizer like Lucas oil stabilizer (I use it in everything new or high milage) just make sure to follow the directions on the bottle. I hope this helps and remember, don't just take one person's word for it, always do your research and good luck with your repairs.
Hi friend thanks for your replied, I like your honestly by explaining things, sincerely I appreciated what your are telling me in regards to my car it has to be torque down, I am going to get the book just to double check type of rocker arms. Again thank you for your help. I will keep digging just to play safe. I am worry about it but I hope I can get it done with all the support I have received. Thanks.
I was watching a program on Motor Trend TV and I was thinking, I've seen this guy before and I recognize the voice. Took me a few days and BAM! You are the guy that does Roadworthy Rescue!!! Good show, don't know how long it's been on but it was the first time I've seen it. Wish you much success.
Thanks William
I've tried static (by the factory manual) and running (also by an older factory manual iirc), even bought a set of deflectors to prevent oil splash (don't do that, just cut some valve covers if you want to do it running). This method looks like the simplest and most trouble free/idiot proof method. Thank you!
You're welcome buddy!
@ViceGripGarage this video just saved me from pulling my hair out. Thanks bud!
A year ago. Derek was so serious and no clowning around. He's really got a personality now! Fun no matter! Good job feller!
I followed your method to valve adjustment when rebuilding my 305... it worked like a charm!!! Thank you
Thanks for helping a guy out! I really appreciate it! I remembered seeing this on roadworthy rescues and searched and found an OG video made by a guy a long time ago! You’ve came a long way Derik!
Had to come back here and say thank you for making it simple to do and understand, absolutely worked perfectly on my Chevy 350
So funny, I watched this video years ago and came back to this one specifically since I'm installing some vortec heads tomorrow. Thanks a million for making this so easy Derek!
This WORKED GREAT! Thanks so much. I tried at least 3 other techniques and still had issues. Tried this and the start started and ran after sitting for over a year with valve timing issues.
I'm in the process of rebuilding a 1966 chevelle with a 396. Just put the heads on with a multi layer steel .080 head gasket and I'm going to try this method you've shown. Simplest and most thorough way I've seen, thus far. Thanks, bud.
You bet man! Message me if you havr questions
Derek.... you're amazing! I use a variation of this method on my motorcycle. Dont use timing Marks anymore or anything. Literally throw her on a stand in 5th gear, roll the tire and as soon as they drop off the lobe I gauge, adjust and keep going. Works like a charm
Man alive! This will take away all of the fun with adjusting roller rockers and oil flying everywhere including onto brand new ceramic coated headers! Thanks for sharing.
The easiest SBC adjustment. Been using that method forever. Works every time. Edit- I was always taught to soak the lifters in oil first. I guess some do it dry. Soaking has always worked for me.
There is no reason whatsoever to soak lifters. Put some assembly lube on them as you're dropping them in. Adjust the pre-load.
Prime the oil pump before initial start-up.
not necessary
Soak lifters? Hahaha....smh.
Never heard of putting lifters in dry been doing this since the early 70's!
I'm building my first 350 now for a 86 Monte Carlo SS. I always look for VGG videos first and this one is gold. I was intimidated with doing the valve adjustments but i was able to follow along with this and got it done in a couple hours. Can't wait to finish up and fire off my first engine build. Thanks VGG. I love the channel.
Going back through your videos to get some tips and tricks before diving into my wife’s square body. It was her dads and she got it when he passed. So now we are ready to give it the love it deserves! Couldn’t do it without all of your hard work and dedication! Thank you for everything you do for the car/truck community!!
I was kinda hesitant to do this but you made me a bit more confident about it. I don’t leave comments very often I genuinely mean that. Thank you very much 🖤
That is the exact same way my dad taught me how to adjust hydraulic lifters and like you, I have been doing it this way since. Never fails me.
Derek you are the man. Thank You for posting this. I have been doing it the hard way for years. This gives me that little extra time for enjoying my creations!! Keep up the great work.
Hey, Vice Grip Garage! Thanks a lot for the info, I just used your valve adjustment method on my 1973 Ford 300 6 cylinder. Now if the carburetor would just get here I will be on the road again! : )
Love that motor !
I saw a lot of other videos on adjusting valves on fords. Totally confusing and didn’t make sense. Thankyou and your dad for the easiest way I’ve seen to adjust valves!
I trust you. It totally makes sense!
Your Father is a wise man and so are you for following his advice.
bro you saved me man all this 1357 e 1248 i rotate i did this 15 times and every time ended up with mad lash did this and no pro. thanks for the good content.
Just enjoying my Saturday rewatching VGG videos, they are as good the second time as they are the first!
You're awesome man! Cheers!👍
Cheer’s to you as well!!
We do it the same way. I would mention your method is great for dry pushrods and lifters. My method for both lubed and dry is up and down movement to get to zero lash. If they are lubed and you spin them you can actually depress the lifter. Hydraulic is so forgiving though. that's my 2cents. Great vid.
Who seriously down votes videos like this? He did a good enough job explaining it. Will be doing this shortly on my 350. 👍🏽
That is a super simple way of adjusting hydraulic lifters! I am in debt to you sir! I’ve never thought of it that way. Thank you.
Wow adjusting valves has always been the reason I pull out my book... wow... thank you so much. My dad taught me how to work on cars he worked on them his whole life for the Navy, air force, and general motors. He was a walking textbook and he had an hour process for this lol
You bet Michael! Thanks for watching
I see that uniform in your picture. USAF is a good branch. Taught me how to turn wrenches as well. I appreciate the service to our great nation.
@@benross647 hey thanks bud I'm in communications. It's a whole side of the world people can't even imagine
I’ve put off replacing my valve seals for a year because I didn’t know how to do this.😵. Derek is a national treasure!
Thanks man... just rebuilt my first 351w for my plow truck and I just wanted to be certain it's done the same as the sbc's. I greatly appreciate you spreading the knowledge you have. Thank you my friend
Does this work the same for 351w in a f150
@@tavo24vv27 yes.. its worked great for my 5.8L f150 4x4. Except I followed the ford specs on rocker arm torque specs. Which is 22-ftlbs after finding zero lash on top dead center of each cylinder you're lashing valves on. 2 full rotations will allow you to lash each cylinder in firing order one quarter turn at a time.
Hello my friend thanks for your explanation. I want to ask you if I can do what you did on your ford 5.8L, I have a 1997 mercury mountaineer 5.0L, I have not open the valve covers yet but I know a mechanic told me that I have a clatting on the heads, I want to take the opportunity to do this myself by listening and reading from people like you, do you think my truck goes by torquing like yours or I just need to set zero lash then 3/4 turn to adjust, please help me out my friend, thanks in advance hope you know more than me about my vehicle. To adjust valves.
@@LuisMartinez-fr9gq you need to research is the 5.0L for that year Mercury is a roller Cam and Roller lifters before anything. If they are roller then yes you can do it the same way Derek from VGG shows you in the video. Knowing the firing order and going cylinder to cylinder by order will save a lot of time and hassle.
@@LuisMartinez-fr9gq hydraulic roller lifters only need zero lash with one HALF turn after zero lash. That's what I did and it ran great. 👍
Outstanding; My dad taught me engine running; half a cardboard box lid pinched on the bottom of the valves to guild the oil back into the crankcase. Adjust while running 1/2 turn after no tick tick.
Thats how my grandpa did it. Keep it simple!
Yup! 👍👍
Thank you and your father I'm assembling a csb 350 for my fiancée to put in her dad's mud truck its a long story but I'm just really trying to get it done for her so she has a chance to drive it and this is going to save me some serious time which hasn't been on my side in awhile now. It's also my first complete build I'm no mechanic but I'm trying and triple checking everything
Awesome video, I am rebuilding my first Holden (Australia) v8, and I wasn't 100% on adjusting the rockers....you Sir and this video are fantastic. Thank you 🙏
There's a screamin' little 308 in an Aussie movie called Acolytes. Curious if you've seen it? Btw, movie ain't for the faint-hearted.
Well I’ll be dipped!!! I just used this method on a 1985 454 crusader marine motor . Perfection! Thank you.
Yeah my dad taught me this in the mid 90's in front of the local general store, a young neighbor kid showed up and had an engine tick in his old 80s c10, dad said it was an easy fix, pulled the valve covers and did it right there in the parking lot, got him to bump it over with the starter
sweet😎
I watched my uncle do this on a 75 Cheyanne while it was running lol
I'll repeat myself , this is amazing . I just watched your big block build . I've never seen it done this way . No book tells you to do this . I;ve always started with top dead center in #1 , then follow the book as to which intake and exhaust to adjust , rotate 360 degrees and go by the book as to which E or I valves to adjust , your method is by far eaisier and you can't get mixed up . , as I have done , LOL
Is he adjusting it until the push rod will not spin between his fingers? Or just until he feels some presure on it?
Trying this method on my 83 bronco tomorrow, very simplistic 👍🏼
Thank you , you are the 2nd video to show this way. Reading your comments I’m a believer. All other shows firing order, feel for compression on and on.
With or without a cold beverage!
Getting ready to put heads on my old work truck this weekend. I work on tractors and farm equipment I’ve set a bunch of solid lifters but never hydraulic thanks for the help love your channel
The Second video I found like this. Can't wait to work on my engine
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Thank you for keeping it simple! Makes me less nervous about doing it.
I use the same method... it was my grandpa that taught me... I usually run a 3/4 turn on factory Chevy lifters but a half on high performance sets
Nice
I’m going to use your method tomorrow on my 327 Chevy. Thanks for the tip. Very helpful. Almost foolproof.
A guy is getting pretty good at this whole utoober video making thing, eh?
Cheers!
Tryin to learn myself up! Got a few good mentors.
@@ViceGripGarage you said this will work on any lifter. What about Rhoads lifters?
I did not say "any lifter". I said, hydraulic lifter, huge difference. The science behind the operation doesn't change with brand name. Its either hydraulic flat tappet, hydralic roller, or its a solid - plain and simple
Do you half to a just timing when you change from 1.5 to 1.6 rocker ratio?
Dame right you are! Your starting to make me think I could be that guy. Your the best!
This is the best, most useful VGG video he has ever made!
Best video I have ever seen for valve clearance. Thank you so much. You eased my fear.
Good video. I have done this the same way for many years and always comes out right.
This is way easier that the traditional way I did it. I will be doing this method from now on!
Never seen this before, worked perfect. Hats to you and your Dad!
Just put a new cam, lifters, heads on my GMC. I have vaguely heard about this method but never understood it until I watched this video. Thank you very much 😊
you're welcome!
Was the lifters already pumped before or after 3/4 turn oil primed or does it even matter
@@bryanbryant5262 good question
Doesn't matter, preload pumped you may open a valve because the lifter is "solid". Not pumped you'll drop the plunger into the lifter. It doesn't matter... 1/2 to 3/4 turns pumped or dry creates same preload
@@ViceGripGarage so when I pop off the vcovers what I do first.... As far as turning the engine and do the intake have to be off cause my motor awredy in and together I just gave a chatter
I have been dreading replacing the head gaskets on my engine because of the valve rods but this gives me confidence to give it a go. Thank you.
Nothing short of genius! Thanks.
I've been scrolling TH-cam for a week now looking for help any help on adjusting these valves and I'm a decent mechanic I consider myself a decent mechanic but valves are so intimidating you sir are genius thank you because I come just luckily come across this video took me all of 45 minutes and now my van is running been down for weeks thank you thank you thank you thank you!
Nice, that's almost exactly how I was taught by my neighbor, except a 1/2 turn instead of 3/4 when done. I adjusted them wrong 4 or 5 times before I learned this. Great tips!
Used this method this morning putting my sbc together. Works well
Works for all of em. Best way to do them!!
By far one of the best vids I've watched on YT. Easy to understand and works great! Outstanding video!
this works perfect just put a 302 in our shoebox i used this method and zip fired up and ran perfect 1st shot
Nice Joe!
I'm doing a 302 gonna try it.
Thanks Derek. Going to use this video when I do valve seals in my 81 Z28. was more intimidated about adjusting the valves than doing the seals. Taking it on a road trip to the car cruise in Ocean city md.
I used your method on my snowblower both rockers were loose. It's factree now!
Your small gas engine most likely does not have hydraulic lifters. Common lash is 3-5 thousandths intake and 5-7 thousandths exhaust for a B&S. Just trying to help a feller out.
@@bearjersadventures9864 they were very loose regardless :)
@@Werewolfmage Too loose and the compression release stops working, too tight and you may bend/break a push rod or wear out your cam.(I am not a mechanic, just too cheap to bring my junk to the shop)
Good way to do it. I've tried a lot of various methods but this is the Simplist and it works.
Thanks, mister. Time for a cold one.
Glad it helped
Literally the way I've always done it.
nice
Hey vicegrip just want to say thank for sharing your video to a guy like me that have never adjusted valve before n my life and it certainly worked everything you do and that's what I did an my 389 Pontiac runs great, thanks again clarence Washington.
setting up a 327 sbc just what i needed thank you sir !!!
You bet!
Omg that the best advice ever! Just finished adjustments as explained. The result exceeded expectations!
My dad drove with his knee too, he didn’t intentionally teach me that but I learned it anyway 😜 and my step father taught me to adjust rockers and valve lash 🤷🏽♂️ true story
Wow... I am about to do my 1st time adjustment on my 1st F150 pickup ever. This makes complete sense to me. I am gonna do it this way. Thanks for the insight and technique.