Racebannon808 clicking pen is might be little too much i mean .... i don't think brown can be that satisfaction , and clipping nail is more satisfy that clicking pen
@@danilodeklerk7422 petty cash noun an accessible store of money kept by an organization for expenditure on small items. "I took the money out of the petty cash and paid her"
In my experience (and personal preference), Cherry MX Brown are simply the best switches* overall for typing, gaming and everything in between. They may not be the best for each specialized task, but they have no overarching weakness at any use scenario. * best modern mechanical switch. My favorite mechanical switch of all time is the buckling spring switches in IBM Model M keyboards.
I'm glad you did this. I couldn't find a guide like this when I was shopping for a keyboard, but I think this does a very good job at summing things up for people who are mind boggled by all the different information about keyboards.
I like this rather unbiased overview of the various switches without any circle jerking or what not. You tried to be as objective as possible and added your personal opinions as a side note. Great job Dmitry, thumbs up
High production values, very comprehensive and good natured/balanced whilst still giving personal preference, love spec overlays, a great piece of work and extremely useful.
@6:33 It says “sound: quite” I giggled :) As always, I love me a thorough and informative quality video from one of the very best out there, I (heart) HardwareCanucks.
families HATE this keyboard! find out why! I also have Outemu blues, I love them, everyone else in the house hates them. they feel really good, and are way cheaper than cherry keyboards
This is a very difficult video to do, and I greatly appreciate the amount of effort you put into this. This is amazing information plus great b roll shots. Much kudos.
amir shemesh I want a MX Green board badly but selection is somewhat limited and there are no RGB models. Currently I use MX Blacks and love them. I need a heavier key.
The black are awesome, And yeah the selection IS limited but for my personal needs the cm quickfire rapid was (and still is) perfect. I don't really like leds on the keyboard ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The sound of a blue is amazing. I really like it for typing which I do a lot of. For the lighter linear switches I have a hard time knowing when a key has actually been pressed. But it is true that blues aren't the best for gaming. It sometimes feels slow at first but I have gotten used to it.
I've been contemplating trying a mech board. this covered everything I needed to hear and know about them to make a decision on switch type. thank you, Dmitry 😊
I just bought my first mechanical keyboard not too long ago: The Logitech G810, with ROMER-G switches. I have to say, they've made a great first impression. They're light, and nearly silent if you don't bottom out. They feel _almost_ linear, but they have a tiny tactile bump. They're great for gaming, and so far I enjoy gaming on them, although I'm by no means competitive. I went from a little Logitech K360 and I loved that little keyboard, but this is a great step upwards for me. And for the keyboard itself, I love how it doesn't have all the massive bells and whistles that a lot of gaming keyboards do, but it still has all the essentials I need: Volume dial, Stop & Play-Pause, Next & Back, etc. The software is pretty decent as well, with plenty of options. I just wish there was a few extra preset modes to choose from lighting wise. And the fact that I can sync it with my G900 and other Logitech RGB stuff is a really neat plus. Overall, I'd probably have to give it an 8.5 out of 10, or maybe a 9.
Im very satisfied with my romer g keyboard, the G810. The lighting is great, and since Ive been playing games on rubber dome keyboards for most of my time on a computer, the switch to this keyboard wasn't bad at all, it felt like a very natural upgrade to make.
I had blues before and they felt just amazing when typing, but my girlfriend could not sleep when I was gaming late at night. That keyboard broke after like a year so I got refund and went for Logitech g610 with browns and I am deeply satisfied. It still has that nice feedback like blues does, but they are not as loud, which is perfect spot for me.
Honestly this is the video I have been waiting for forever, amazing. You always give me such great info and by far the best explanation video out there.
Thanks for the guide, before this video, iv'e just think getting a keyboard with a loud switch, with a good sound mabye a little lighting and here i go. But after this video i got to a Market, for trying some different keyboards out. And this guide make me buy the right keyboard.
Browns definitely are the best for the first-time buyer. They offer a bit of tactile feedback, like in the blues, while also being light, like the reds. From the browns on, if you want to continue buying mechanical keyboards, you can easily choose because of the fact that browns have both qualities of the two main types of switches.
r/mechanicalkeyboards has some good guides on choosing keyboards. Word of advice: Cherry switches are not the highest quality ones out there. Gateron switches are almost always smoother, and Otemus are as well, lacking a lot of the scratchiness that Cherry switches usually have. For brown switches, I think that Gateron Browns are the best
i mean, they are just for a very niche market, expensive and has a less clicky but still tactile feel. i think its just laking conmaired to cherry or kailhs options
Thanks a lot for this video breaking down the different switches for noobs like me. I came into this video knowing absolutely nothing about what type of keyboard I should be looking for to now knowing exactly what type of switches I want. This was an awesome learning experience. Thank you
I started off with a razer blackwidow classic with the razer green switches and I absolutly loved it. Now i have the logitech g910 spectrum since they fixed the keycaps and made them normal and I love this one too. Romer-G switches are definitely interesting but the more I type on them the more I learn to love them, especially when it comes to touch typing. The fast actuation and distinct feel of the keys when it actuates overall is very pleasant.
After 10 years of service, I've finally replaced my first gen Logitech G15 with my first (that I've owned) mechanical key board: a Corsair K70 LUX RGB. I chose MX Cherry Browns because they seemed like a nice balance for typing as well as gaming. I like the short actuation but I also really like the tactile bump of MX Cherry Browns. Not as loud as some mechanical keyboards I've used. It's a real treat to use.
This was great. I was all for blues but now you've tempted me to try Greens and Browns. So, here's a challenge - are there any good TKL brown, green or blue keyboards where the caps are half size, not full? :)
It's quite literally just preference. I alternate between Topre and MX blues, I can't stand MX reds and my 'performance' in games is virtually identical.
Mohamed Osama blues are great for gaming alot of pro players on sc2 and lol and dota 2 use blues and it doesnt hurt they gameplay u need to fast fingers and u need to press harder but it doesnt slow u down
i know this is an old and *beginner's* guide, but i think categorizing switches into linear, tactile, and clicky types would be better than just a description of feel this would be a better introduction and path to give beginners to open up to different manufacturers to which switch type they prefer
What would be the best 70 or 80 dollar Mechanical keyboard. Cause it seems like there's decent ones for 40-50,I want a nicer one. But I also don't want to spend $150 on a razer or corsair.
I just bought the RedDragon Karuma or whatever its called. Its REALLY impressive for the $33 that I paid. Like its basically MX Reds. The only complaint is that the S and D are already wearing out, and a tiny bit of the W. IDK if that says that I'm using it more than I should. Or that the paint just fades easily. But over all, if your getting a first time Mech keyboard. Get it, its only 30 bucks. And you can get the RED backlit for 40.
today I ordered my first mechanical keyboard with mx blues for gaming and chatting because that click is so extremely satisfying I brought Corsair strafe RGB MX blue it should come in 7 days i have never tried mechanical keyboard before so i m very hyped
Fully actuating beyond the actuation point (aka "activation point") of the switch. Membrane keyboards require you to bottom out because it registers at the bottom, but mechanical switches have activation mid-way the switch, making it unnecessary and noisy to bottom out mechanical switches
such a great video; currently awaiting my full white backlit wireless tenkeyless Varmilo VB87M with blue switches and PBT keycaps, this is gonna be amazing switch from a deathstalker chroma
You don't want anything but cherry or some of it's knockoff. Especially for your first. You buy other custom switches when you know you really want it. (Except topre. Everyone should have a touch of topre at least once in their lives). And you want a more neutral keyboard without "gaming accents" on them. Why? Same reason you try switches. You buy ”gaming accents" when you know you really want it. Thank me later.
I always thought I would like brown switches over blues because blues seemed so incredibly loud and hard to press in videos. It wasn't until I actually tried then out in a store that I realized blues were WAY lighter than I thought, and that brown clicks were basically nonexistent to my fingers. I've fallen in love with blue switches since, MAKE SURE YOU TRY KEY SWITCHES OUT FOR YOURSELF BEFORE BUYING!!!!
Small thing about Blues. I have found that the reset point is below the return bump and from a lot of use you can get into a habit of feeling for the start of the reset bump and therefore knowing exactly when to press again.
(Disclaimer: I'm way too attached to the MechanicalKeyboards subreddit, and I learn about all this stuff because it interests me.) This video does a great job at making the *real* details about mechanical switches accessible to the typical PC market! I appreciate the work put in to make sure that all commercially popular types of keys are represented (at least, those marketed to typical PC users), and to debunk the myths about gaming on mechanical keys. You provided an objective look at the pros and cons of things like the QS-1, MX Speed, and Romer-G, which many people get because they're self-described "gamers only" and want the "best" board for any cost. If I were to make this video, I would definitely explain the subsection of "tactile" switches as opposed to clicky and linear, as you kind of pushed MX Browns to the side as an in-between. This is true in the way that you said it, but the denomination of "tactile" switches is important to showcase, as well. Overall, for a concise video from someone who isn't a keyboard-centric channel, this is an excellent overview!
I would also add a mention of the qualities of Cherry knockoffs, good and bad - Gaterons, for example, are considered by many to occasionally surpass their Cherry counterparts, whereas Kailh and all the lesser-known Chinese brands tend to be notably worse in consistency and keyfeel.
Bought a Cherry MX Red switch keyboard for my first mechanical switch, about a year later I bought an MX blue board, now I think I'll be going MX browns for my next one. Think that's a fairly reasonable progression!
Happy Christmas Dimitri and HardwareCanucks team and everyone on TH-cam! P.S. After watching this video I realise that I want Cherry MX Brown Switches although I do type a lot of assignments and work on MS Word, etc, I do play MMO's and Co-op games like CSGO and TESO hence the need for swift response time. Thus I will probably save up for an RGB Cherry MX Brown keyboard.
DaemoniumCC lol, they're not a knock off, they're a clone. Just because it's a clone doesn't mean it's better than the original, Cherry have been scratchy garbage since the mid 90s and were always worse than ALPS. Gateron are making Cherry clones sure, but they're making clones of the ORIGINAL Cherry switches, y'know, the smooth as hell ones, before Cherry switched to a different kind of plastic and made them feel like scratchy shit. That's why Gateron is superior. Cherry switches have so much friction with the slider and housing that they're scratchy as fuck, Gateron do not have this.
I hear that from people who sometimes say that Cherry feels "scratchy" and "sandy" but honestly, I have 4 different Cherry boards (blue, brown, clear and red) and none of them have ever sounded or felt scratchy. Browns need a little time to break in, that's about it. Other than that, they've all been smooth as butter for me. Bad batches maybe? Who knows. But I'm definitely satisfied will all my Cherry MX boards. Browns actually being my favorite, with Clears a close second.
DaemoniumCC At the end of the day, there isn't much to say other than "you're wrong". All Cherry switches post around '95 or even earlier have been scratchy, except the clicky ones are far less scratchy. Blues are the only reasonable Cherry switch, but they still aren't great as the entire Cherry MX design for the blues fundamentally doesn't allow them to be all that tactile. Browns are ridiculously scratchy, even Gateron browns suck because it's just a bad design but at least the slider is better. The Blacks and Reds Cherry vs Gateron are VASTLY different. It's nothing to do with bad batches, you're either lying to yourself or are completely ignorant to the problem Cherry have. You can feel the Cherry slider moving. Gateron sliders feel like they're moving through oil. It's completely different, vastly superior and just like vintage Cherry black switches. Also you can hear the friction as Gateron switches make very little sound until they bottom out, Cherry do not. Massively well documented at this point, nothing to do with batches, this is a fundamental problem with the material Cherry now uses. I have no idea why it does not affect Cherry blue as badly but they are still not perfect.
Red is like sucking your finger
Blue is like clipping your nail
Brown is like clicking pen
the most exact description so far
Sega Hen blue is like clicking a pen
Racebannon808 clicking pen is might be little too much i mean .... i don't think brown can be that satisfaction , and clipping nail is more satisfy that clicking pen
Topre is like getting your finger sucked by a $50,000 call girl.
the Best,quickest and accurate description I have ever read :p
Why is chris patt teaching me keyboards.
patt
patt
patt
Just asked myself the s ame thing wtf!
patt
right when I needed a video like this
Me too!
Mastrhix
Me three😂 building my first rig... a day from pressing the purchase button 🤗
+Mastrhix ikr my keyboard just broke yesterday
brown is the middle ground between red and blues
that's the question how i can test one of those if on my country no one sell this types of keyboards?
Danilo de Klerk does that cost money?
*Cough Blacks *Cough
yeah no shit
@@danilodeklerk7422 petty cash
noun
an accessible store of money kept by an organization for expenditure on small items.
"I took the money out of the petty cash and paid her"
In my experience (and personal preference), Cherry MX Brown are simply the best switches* overall for typing, gaming and everything in between. They may not be the best for each specialized task, but they have no overarching weakness at any use scenario.
* best modern mechanical switch. My favorite mechanical switch of all time is the buckling spring switches in IBM Model M keyboards.
I mean there are brown switches from many other manufacturers that also provide slightly different tactile experiences with more or less noise
I'm glad you did this. I couldn't find a guide like this when I was shopping for a keyboard, but I think this does a very good job at summing things up for people who are mind boggled by all the different information about keyboards.
There are plenty of swtich guide videos out there but none of them go into this amount of detail or compare so much of the spectrum. Excellent work.
Thank you dimitry! I needed this!
SAME
same
no you dont
Me too
Red for gaming and play at night?? Red and blue much diffrient?
I was researching so many different mech keyboards today, and the fact this came out today is a Christmas gift in itself. Thank you!
I just bought a simple keyboard with Outemo blue switches AND IT IS AWESOME.
Blue switches rule. Did you put orings under the keys? This helps if you really don't like the click.. But only a little.
LordTel o rings reduce clack, not click. This means that o rings make quiet switches quieter. People who don’t like Blues probably would prefer Browns
What keyboard is it?
I like this rather unbiased overview of the various switches without any circle jerking or what not. You tried to be as objective as possible and added your personal opinions as a side note. Great job Dmitry, thumbs up
I switched from blue to reds only a few days ago, and i love them!
20 years of living and now i finally understood (some) about keyboards. Thank you so much.
The NCIX ad spot at the end had my laughing so hard here in 2019
And 2021
High production values, very comprehensive and good natured/balanced whilst still giving personal preference, love spec overlays, a great piece of work and extremely useful.
Cherry MX Brown is bae
Nawwww brown is gay. Blue is bae
Brown isn't click enough
Everybody has their own preference(s) for switches. Just enjoy what you find comfortable. I personally like Browns as well!
Aaron Leonardo I got a blue for like $30-40 bucks and it pisses everyone off cuz its too loud lol
Enjoy our headaches every day.
Very comprehensive guide, I've been through 3 mechanicals and I really like how you pointed the things to watch out for out.
@6:33
It says “sound: quite”
I giggled :)
As always, I love me a thorough and informative quality video from one of the very best out there, I (heart) HardwareCanucks.
This is honestly the best video to watch for information on the switches. Thank you for putting this out for us.
not at all tbh. there's so many better resources. maybe for beginners this is good, but to any enthusiast all these switches are horrible
My current mechanical keyboard has Outemu switches. They're basically Cherry Blue knock-offs, but they're really GOOD Cherry Blue knock-offs.
Fireclaw Studios i have one too.. noisy af but feels really nice
InnerFire6213 I _like_ the noise. It somehow doesn't even bother my brother, who I share a room with.
families HATE this keyboard! find out why! I also have Outemu blues, I love them, everyone else in the house hates them. they feel really good, and are way cheaper than cherry keyboards
ProPolice Do you have that Firerose keyboard like me?
I have the Motospeed Inflictor
This is a very difficult video to do, and I greatly appreciate the amount of effort you put into this. This is amazing information plus great b roll shots. Much kudos.
omgggg right when I want to do some research on what keyboard/switches to buy :DD Thanks for the video, man
I play csgo, but pressing 3-1 after reloading does NOT give a faster reload. There is an invisible time barrier to stop that.
Yeah, you're more likely to actually make the reload last longer because you have to wait for the weapon pullout animation.
I was going to comment this as well!
you don't press 3-1, you press q twice. that way you definitely get faster reload. its been like this since 1.6 days
but still even takes away the noise when reloading ..
Nobody uses it for a faster reload. It's just to de-scope the AWP.
After watching so many videos to decide which keyboard keys i want to buy, I found this video to be the most helpful. Great one!
I can listen to this video all day
This video was up 4 hours ago. Are you still listening? Don't disappoint me.
i had to pee
Are you still listening?
I think this might be the best video about mechanical switches out there
No love for mx green huh
your fingers are stronk
19 years of non stop masturbation have their benefits
amir shemesh I want a MX Green board badly but selection is somewhat limited and there are no RGB models.
Currently I use MX Blacks and love them. I need a heavier key.
The black are awesome, And yeah the selection IS limited but for my personal needs the cm quickfire rapid was (and still is) perfect. I don't really like leds on the keyboard ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
yay someone else who uses the MX Green!
The sound of a blue is amazing. I really like it for typing which I do a lot of. For the lighter linear switches I have a hard time knowing when a key has actually been pressed. But it is true that blues aren't the best for gaming. It sometimes feels slow at first but I have gotten used to it.
Quite?
Luciano de Benedictis I know that was really annoying me
It's quiet, Dmitry. Great videos!
Rober-G
Dmitry makes quiet good videos
Luciano de Benedictis Nice. I noticed that as well. Went to the comments to see if anyone would call him out. lol
I've been contemplating trying a mech board. this covered everything I needed to hear and know about them to make a decision on switch type. thank you, Dmitry 😊
8:48 Just pointing out you typed "Rapidifre"
BowGunner And 9:22 he typed "quite" instead of quiet!
A5tro Junior Sloppiness in what is otherwise a very informative video.
BowGunner I know right! Looks like he wasn't using the right switch!😂😂
also at 9:58 the "rober g" switches aka romer g switches from logitech :D
Thanks Dimitri, always love to see a mechanical keyboard roundup. As a gamer the MX Browns and Speeds are my goto switches.
I'm really weird. I like Logitech's Romer G switches and Cherry MX Blues. They are so different but i still love them both.
I just bought my first mechanical keyboard not too long ago: The Logitech G810, with ROMER-G switches. I have to say, they've made a great first impression. They're light, and nearly silent if you don't bottom out. They feel _almost_ linear, but they have a tiny tactile bump. They're great for gaming, and so far I enjoy gaming on them, although I'm by no means competitive. I went from a little Logitech K360 and I loved that little keyboard, but this is a great step upwards for me.
And for the keyboard itself, I love how it doesn't have all the massive bells and whistles that a lot of gaming keyboards do, but it still has all the essentials I need: Volume dial, Stop & Play-Pause, Next & Back, etc. The software is pretty decent as well, with plenty of options. I just wish there was a few extra preset modes to choose from lighting wise. And the fact that I can sync it with my G900 and other Logitech RGB stuff is a really neat plus.
Overall, I'd probably have to give it an 8.5 out of 10, or maybe a 9.
Ugh this is such a hard choice since I cant test them out!
You can always buy a key tester from AliExpress. 7 - 10 bucks to test about nine switch types
Definitely one of the better such videos I have seen. Very well done.
blue switches are my favorite.
louie Looop Same :)
louie Looop ii
Cherry blues suck
Im very satisfied with my romer g keyboard, the G810. The lighting is great, and since Ive been playing games on rubber dome keyboards for most of my time on a computer, the switch to this keyboard wasn't bad at all, it felt like a very natural upgrade to make.
I had blues before and they felt just amazing when typing, but my girlfriend could not sleep when I was gaming late at night. That keyboard broke after like a year so I got refund and went for Logitech g610 with browns and I am deeply satisfied. It still has that nice feedback like blues does, but they are not as loud, which is perfect spot for me.
Honestly this is the video I have been waiting for forever, amazing. You always give me such great info and by far the best explanation video out there.
6:41
"sound: quite"
Yup, that switch makes quite a sound. What?
after that, rober gs
@@Hypercube9 It should say quiet
@@jackb2607 It should. But it does not. [That's the joke!]
Good overview over the different switches. I'm using the MX Brown Switches on an Corsair K70 Lux and I'm very pleased with the switches itself.
Thanks for the guide, before this video, iv'e just think getting a keyboard with a loud switch, with a good sound mabye a little lighting and here i go. But after this video i got to a Market, for trying some different keyboards out. And this guide make me buy the right keyboard.
my only problem is that I live in a place where I don't really know where I'd try out some keyboards
Browns definitely are the best for the first-time buyer. They offer a bit of tactile feedback, like in the blues, while also being light, like the reds. From the browns on, if you want to continue buying mechanical keyboards, you can easily choose because of the fact that browns have both qualities of the two main types of switches.
Going to get a keyboard with Brown switches for relatively cheap in a few days. Can't wait!
Yeah, I'm looking for a cheap one :l
r/mechanicalkeyboards has some good guides on choosing keyboards. Word of advice: Cherry switches are not the highest quality ones out there. Gateron switches are almost always smoother, and Otemus are as well, lacking a lot of the scratchiness that Cherry switches usually have. For brown switches, I think that Gateron Browns are the best
Maxwell VegA search AC Chocolatier for cool brown switches, unless your talking about cherry MX brown
ew
i mean, they are just for a very niche market, expensive and has a less clicky but still tactile feel. i think its just laking conmaired to cherry or kailhs options
Thanks a lot for this video breaking down the different switches for noobs like me.
I came into this video knowing absolutely nothing about what type of keyboard I should be looking for to now knowing exactly what type of switches I want.
This was an awesome learning experience. Thank you
I use cherry mx reds for my keyboard and i love them
I started off with a razer blackwidow classic with the razer green switches and I absolutly loved it. Now i have the logitech g910 spectrum since they fixed the keycaps and made them normal and I love this one too. Romer-G switches are definitely interesting but the more I type on them the more I learn to love them, especially when it comes to touch typing. The fast actuation and distinct feel of the keys when it actuates overall is very pleasant.
Merry Christmas
BustedRC *THANK YOU! YOU TOO*
Bought a Novatouch TKL on your recommendation and I absolutely LOVE this keyboard for everything - gaming and typing.
Am I the only one who likes the loud clicky noise on the blue switches?
No, I find the clicky noise to be very satisfying tbh
Rekt m8 ikr
***** yeah i guess
Blue are my favourites
Ibrahim Haider mine too
After 10 years of service, I've finally replaced my first gen Logitech G15 with my first (that I've owned) mechanical key board: a Corsair K70 LUX RGB. I chose MX Cherry Browns because they seemed like a nice balance for typing as well as gaming. I like the short actuation but I also really like the tactile bump of MX Cherry Browns. Not as loud as some mechanical keyboards I've used. It's a real treat to use.
This was great. I was all for blues but now you've tempted me to try Greens and Browns. So, here's a challenge - are there any good TKL brown, green or blue keyboards where the caps are half size, not full? :)
Gpro
Mx blue is lifeeeeeeee
Ash Tailor Logitech G Pro, maybe. It has Romer-G switches though.
I own Red, Browns, Blues and Clears and the Blues or Clears are my favorite, but I mostly type and don't game much. Plus I fat finger a lot.
tecware tkl rgb on amazon. I have it and it’s only 43.00
My KM780 RGB with MX Browns should come within the next few days. First mecha keyboard too, so excited!
1:36 am I the only one who sees Chris Pratt
Potato Power 97 12:21am I see him too
Merry Christmas, Dmitry! Keep up the good videos :)
vdochev merry xmas
you need to try some custom switches and keyboards /r/mechanicalkeyboards
Harjoat custom keycaps?
that comes with the territory
Harjoat for me that's the only reason I'm on there
The absolute best mechanical switch review. Thanks!
MX Brown squad here. Late, of course, because we're busy gaming.
Bought a Logitech G810 several weeks ago and I absolutely love it. Way better than my previous keyboard which was a G510s.
I think CHRY MX BLUE make no difference in gaming at all. I play better than when i had Cherry mx speeds, but thats me and not everyone is the same
Jaden bourne yes u are not alone i had blues and now mx speeds and now its easier to do fast things like comboing with riven in lol or adad in csgo
It's quite literally just preference. I alternate between Topre and MX blues, I can't stand MX reds and my 'performance' in games is virtually identical.
Mohamed Osama blues are great for gaming alot of pro players on sc2 and lol and dota 2 use blues and it doesnt hurt they gameplay
u need to fast fingers and u need to press harder but it doesnt slow u down
i know this is an old and *beginner's* guide, but i think categorizing switches into linear, tactile, and clicky types would be better than just a description of feel
this would be a better introduction and path to give beginners to open up to different manufacturers to which switch type they prefer
What would be the best 70 or 80 dollar Mechanical keyboard. Cause it seems like there's decent ones for 40-50,I want a nicer one. But I also don't want to spend $150 on a razer or corsair.
Adelic cm storm quickfire TK is good for the price
Byron Her can confirm cm quickfire boards are very solid
Adelic I just recieved my L8gitech G410, which had costed "only" 70 bucks. I wouldnt spend more money.
CM Storm all the way
I just bought the RedDragon Karuma or whatever its called. Its REALLY impressive for the $33 that I paid. Like its basically MX Reds. The only complaint is that the S and D are already wearing out, and a tiny bit of the W. IDK if that says that I'm using it more than I should. Or that the paint just fades easily.
But over all, if your getting a first time Mech keyboard. Get it, its only 30 bucks. And you can get the RED backlit for 40.
great video even if you already know keyboards and keys pretty well. very helpful for thought. the activating distance examples were great.
Cherry MX Blue for life.
today I ordered my first mechanical keyboard with mx blues for gaming and chatting because that click is so extremely satisfying I brought Corsair strafe RGB MX blue it should come in 7 days i have never tried mechanical keyboard before so i m very hyped
What does "bottoming-out" mean?
Aleksis K. Ahhh I see. Thanks sir! and Merry Christmas!
Fully actuating beyond the actuation point (aka "activation point") of the switch. Membrane keyboards require you to bottom out because it registers at the bottom, but mechanical switches have activation mid-way the switch, making it unnecessary and noisy to bottom out mechanical switches
Edward Drew when you hit the cervix
Although it sounds a bit gay, I'll say it anyway. It's all about bottoming out with the brown.
When you go balls deep.
Totally needed this video!!
Outemu switches?
Try the ck104, very cheap RGB keyboard I bought for $60 AUD which is like $43 USD
But for £20, can't go wrong.
It does depend on the quality of the key caps and overall built quilty too. You need to take that into account before you blame it on the switches.
such a great video; currently awaiting my full white backlit wireless tenkeyless Varmilo VB87M with blue switches and PBT keycaps, this is gonna be amazing switch from a deathstalker chroma
Did anyone notice he spelled quite instead of quiet
MX Black switches here, and I absolutely love them in my SteelSeries 7G.
merry Christmas to everyone 🇮🇳🎅🎄🎉
vishal Sharma u too
Thank you for doing this. Please do more guides. You will most likely gain viewers that isn't subs yet. Plus, they are really good and helpful!
I'm playing a lot of fps games. I am interested in cherry speed or romer-g. Which one should i get?
Xypod romer-g feels kinda mushy
Get a switch tester. Like really. $15-20 investment to prevent regrets on your $110 purchase.
Billy Christanto well it's hard to find a romer-g switch on a tester mostly comes with cherry mx
You don't want anything but cherry or some of it's knockoff. Especially for your first. You buy other custom switches when you know you really want it. (Except topre. Everyone should have a touch of topre at least once in their lives).
And you want a more neutral keyboard without "gaming accents" on them. Why? Same reason you try switches. You buy ”gaming accents" when you know you really want it. Thank me later.
Billy Christanto I'm not the one that needs help lol
I always thought I would like brown switches over blues because blues seemed so incredibly loud and hard to press in videos. It wasn't until I actually tried then out in a store that I realized blues were WAY lighter than I thought, and that brown clicks were basically nonexistent to my fingers. I've fallen in love with blue switches since, MAKE SURE YOU TRY KEY SWITCHES OUT FOR YOURSELF BEFORE BUYING!!!!
Ducky One TKL RGB version MX Cherry Brown Owner!!!
Although it sounds a bit gay, I'll say it anyway. There's a lot of love for the brown around here.
Small thing about Blues. I have found that the reset point is below the return bump and from a lot of use you can get into a habit of feeling for the start of the reset bump and therefore knowing exactly when to press again.
best keyboards:
IBM model M13
IBM model F
HP multimedia keyboard from like 2004 etc
some random compaq keyboard from the 1990s
You make really really cool & super high quality videos... I am your fan from India...You really inspire me to make videos
My favorite is buckling springs.
I love my Model M, but too damn while after an hour or so. And kind of tiring, too.
I used to use a Model M, but I switched to a Model F because it has lighter switches and it feels much better.
I need one of those Model F's..
Razer blackwidow is one that i do like. If you like to customize. Is there any better when it comes to customization?
it's Romer G not Rober G :p at 10:01 time
LOL, didn't notice that.
I have used MX Browns for 5 years, they are amazing. Very versatile. Best of both worlds with no compromises.
6:32 nice spelling
I recognize that White Stork beer bottle in the background! Nice one, Dmitry!
I would happily accept any of those in a possible give-a-way :)
just got the corsair starfe with cherry mx blue switches as a christmas gift, and i love it :)
Am i colorblind or red is orange??
(Disclaimer: I'm way too attached to the MechanicalKeyboards subreddit, and I learn about all this stuff because it interests me.)
This video does a great job at making the *real* details about mechanical switches accessible to the typical PC market! I appreciate the work put in to make sure that all commercially popular types of keys are represented (at least, those marketed to typical PC users), and to debunk the myths about gaming on mechanical keys. You provided an objective look at the pros and cons of things like the QS-1, MX Speed, and Romer-G, which many people get because they're self-described "gamers only" and want the "best" board for any cost. If I were to make this video, I would definitely explain the subsection of "tactile" switches as opposed to clicky and linear, as you kind of pushed MX Browns to the side as an in-between. This is true in the way that you said it, but the denomination of "tactile" switches is important to showcase, as well.
Overall, for a concise video from someone who isn't a keyboard-centric channel, this is an excellent overview!
I would also add a mention of the qualities of Cherry knockoffs, good and bad - Gaterons, for example, are considered by many to occasionally surpass their Cherry counterparts, whereas Kailh and all the lesser-known Chinese brands tend to be notably worse in consistency and keyfeel.
my favourite meme is how he said that topres are linear x)
Memed
You look like the guardians of the galaxy the leader
I'm using MX Speed switches now. Love them for FPS games and general typing. It's so damn responsive, I just love it!
No idea why, but I just found I was unsubscribed to you.
Merry Christmas to everyone!!!!!
Please don't use loud clicky switches when voice chatting. Thank you very much, everyone.
My friends like when they listen to me type xD asmr effect. And we aren't always actually talking
tfw you used IBM keyboard for gaming.
Bought a Cherry MX Red switch keyboard for my first mechanical switch, about a year later I bought an MX blue board, now I think I'll be going MX browns for my next one. Think that's a fairly reasonable progression!
Razer Green are no longer made by Kailh, they're currently made by Gateron.
Not Gateron. The new ones are made by Greetech.
Happy Christmas Dimitri and HardwareCanucks team and everyone on TH-cam!
P.S. After watching this video I realise that I want Cherry MX Brown Switches although I do type a lot of assignments and work on MS Word, etc, I do play MMO's and Co-op games like CSGO and TESO hence the need for swift response time. Thus I will probably save up for an RGB Cherry MX Brown keyboard.
lol why even make a video on cherry boards without including the obviously vastly superior gateron?
How is Gateron superior? They're knock off of Cherry switches, lol
DaemoniumCC lol, they're not a knock off, they're a clone. Just because it's a clone doesn't mean it's better than the original, Cherry have been scratchy garbage since the mid 90s and were always worse than ALPS.
Gateron are making Cherry clones sure, but they're making clones of the ORIGINAL Cherry switches, y'know, the smooth as hell ones, before Cherry switched to a different kind of plastic and made them feel like scratchy shit.
That's why Gateron is superior. Cherry switches have so much friction with the slider and housing that they're scratchy as fuck, Gateron do not have this.
I hear that from people who sometimes say that Cherry feels "scratchy" and "sandy" but honestly, I have 4 different Cherry boards (blue, brown, clear and red) and none of them have ever sounded or felt scratchy. Browns need a little time to break in, that's about it. Other than that, they've all been smooth as butter for me.
Bad batches maybe? Who knows. But I'm definitely satisfied will all my Cherry MX boards. Browns actually being my favorite, with Clears a close second.
DaemoniumCC At the end of the day, there isn't much to say other than "you're wrong". All Cherry switches post around '95 or even earlier have been scratchy, except the clicky ones are far less scratchy. Blues are the only reasonable Cherry switch, but they still aren't great as the entire Cherry MX design for the blues fundamentally doesn't allow them to be all that tactile.
Browns are ridiculously scratchy, even Gateron browns suck because it's just a bad design but at least the slider is better.
The Blacks and Reds Cherry vs Gateron are VASTLY different.
It's nothing to do with bad batches, you're either lying to yourself or are completely ignorant to the problem Cherry have.
You can feel the Cherry slider moving.
Gateron sliders feel like they're moving through oil. It's completely different, vastly superior and just like vintage Cherry black switches.
Also you can hear the friction as Gateron switches make very little sound until they bottom out, Cherry do not.
Massively well documented at this point, nothing to do with batches, this is a fundamental problem with the material Cherry now uses. I have no idea why it does not affect Cherry blue as badly but they are still not perfect.
Perhaps I have used them so much and for so long it was never a "problem" to me.
Fantastic overview! I really needed this info!