Re your wee bit at the end - many years ago, prior to a ritual, a guest asked one of our young Bards, "How long does the ceremony last?". The lad replied, "It depends on how much mead we have!" True story ;)
This was fantastic! I have always felt a connection to Druidic currents through my Scots-Irish ancestry, and I made reference to it in a hip hop track called Fluid Like A Druid a couple years ago. Several of the odd spiritual experiences I referred to in that song were given amazing context in this interview. The hook of the song said "My ancestry is calling to me/ Voices are echoing through prehistory/ They're trying to show us all a new way to see/ And peacefully bring this machine to its knees". When she described the Druidic concept of ancestry in terms of both blood and place, it made many of my own internal conflicts click into a comprehensible framework. It also made me wonder about how, in the age of the internet, we may also have an ancestry of information. I feel just as much the product of the books I've read and the media I've absorbed as I do the place I grew up or my genetics.
I am a (newish) American member of OBOD and also a witch. For me, the energy of druidry feels calm, balanced, and peaceful. The energy of witchcraft and Wicca feels more wild, exciting, and sometimes dark (not evil.) That is just my experience of it. There are many different types of witches and druids, each with their own feel, beliefs, and practices. The seven answers joke is so true.
I heard a saying from someplace. Dont remember where, but for some reason it stuck to me. To paraphrase: If you have a problem with the spirit or spirit world, you see a shaman. If you have a problem with the body or the land, you see a druid.
@@drangelapuca not a problem! And sorry if it's not really substantive. I'm largely still exploring this topic as well. But I'm sure I'll be following you more closely from now on as a lot of your videos I've found to be very useful. Hello from America! And have an amazing day.
@@Drake9309 Every contribution is substantive for me! I value greatly personal experiences and beliefs. Glad you found my content useful, it really means a lot to me! Have an amazing day yourself and hello from rainy England! :-)
@@robgau2501 thanks man. This was quite a while ago. And I've come to realize that that expression, wherever I got it, is a gross oversimplification. From what I've read. There was a ton of overlap between the two. We dont know much about the druids in particular. Which is quite a shame because they seem so interesting. But from surviving scripture and legends it almost seems to me to be that druids were sort of an offshoot of shamanism more than a completely independant sect of thought. The druids were also supposedly very educated for their time. Generally holding high status. This only applies to their ancient iterations tho. Not the more modern iterations.
Unitarian Universalist Druid here...I love the British Druid Order. Great interview. Robert Graves and Lewis Spence are important names that helped Druidry become popular again....along with Ross Nichols.
That bit about ancestors was interesting as recently I started to realises that ancestors doesn't automatically mean people you are related to it could be people you admire or friends you have known, even pets. I do feel a calling to druidry but I am still trying to figure some stuff out. the books listed will be of help.
Another excellent piece, dear lady. So good to see this subject area being investigated with a bit of enthusiasm and respect :bows:. I’m a Solitary Druid, myself, which basically boils down to a rather vaguely Celtic/Nordic nature veneration with a side-order of animism :chuckles:. So I was particularly interested in this one :D.
Angela's Symposium I am indeed resident in the U.K. ... my ‘ancestors of place’ have been in place for a minimum of a thousand years (the ‘internal’ myth is that our family farm (sadly now lost to us) was in records from Norman times).
This was another great interview, the second one I've watched after Jeffery Mishlove. You have an excellent interview technique. You seemed to cover a lot of ground in a short time. I'll likely watch it again to use it as a starting point for further research. It was good to be informed of modern druidry's concern for the land and ecology. I think about ancient druids a lot. My concerns are about the Roman invasion which was directed specifically at destroying the druids, so that they might dominate Europe with a Roman religion. Ceasar used the rational that druids practiced human sacrifice; it seems there is very little evidence to back this up other that Ceasar's own account. But the Romans' were crucifying thousands of people for their political views. It's hard to get information before 400 years ago as the Catholic Church burnt all the history books during the Reformation. So knowledge has to be extrapolated. I would argue that the druids, like shaman, were right-brained visual thinkers. Right brain thinkers see themselves as part of nature, whereas left brain people stand aloof from nature. Persecution of the 'witches' followed; it seems part of an ongoing war against nature. Much of what Jennifer says here suggests to me that modern druidry is mainly made up of right brain people. I think about 1:10 to 1:20 people are right brained. You have impressed me with your channel so far, Angela; Jeffery was right on the money to recommend it. And a belated welcome to TH-cam, since I've only just found you! :)
Fantastic video was a joy to hear Jennifer speak. I had joined OBOD and was nice to hear many of the things I had been studying mentioned in what she said.
Another great video! Jennifer is very knowledgeable on the subject and speaks brilliantly. I come from a Bardic family in Ireland that was, in turn, supposedly descended from the Druids. In the maternal side of the family the women of every generation learned how to make herbal cures for things such as burns and other ailments. Sadly the tradition died out around the time of my grandmother. If the witch trials had come to Ireland they would have been burned at the stake!
Grateful i found your channel! Thanks to Religion for breakfast, for sending me here🤓 Greetings from Texas, enjoying your videos, cannot stop watching. 💚
I am a druidic green witch (or green druid) and a lot of what Jennifer says is accurate. I am also a religious scholar and can tell that you both understand how humans share and connect across history.
Angela thanks again for a very informative interview. id love to see more a podcast type channel, long format from you. cool studio with guests like Jennifer, anyway its excellent content!
I would say the defining difference between druidry and witchcraft is that druidry is emphatically not about control. For example, after I told a colleague that I often avoid the rain because the water spirits like me, he suggested I should try stopping the rain which was overwhelming at that time. I tried and it worked, but I did it by asking my friends for a favour, not by commanding or even bargaining. When the rain stopped within a few minutes, I went outside and thanked them and blessed them. The colleague was still confused, thinking I had magical powers. I don't. I just ask nicely. I also explained to him that it would be dangerous if I could command the weather, as I have no idea what is necessary. The water spirits know whether they can allow my request without harm elsewhere. It is never my place to impose my will on the world. I am here to serve all life and to serve the land. In doing so, I form relationships with various spirits, especially, in my case, the water spirits.
There is no Native American tribe, there are many, many First Nations amongst the Indigenous peoples of North America. Just as there were many tribes of the Celts/Gaels. However with more language groups. These nations have / had many spiritual societies, rituals, ceremonies, cultural implications, and dynamic influences. Some patriarchal. Some matriarchal. I believe Grey Wolf of the BDO, traveled and has studied with an or more than one, First Nations teacher?It is very important to connect and honour these people and cultures. I was happy to see OBOD went to India as well. I myself have studied with several indigenous teachers and participated in many ceremonies. I was directed to Sundance by an indigenous Sundance Leader which I ended up doing for nine years, and am a Holy Pipe carrier. I was told, that I was not appropriating, I was returning. Sun worship is ancient and something our ancestors have in common. This was my path home to connecting through ceremony with the Sun as deity. Today, I am a practicing Hedge Druid and member of two British Druid organizations whom I study with. Both, have great integrity when it comes to being clear that appropriation is not tolerated. I am very grateful for all of my spiritual teachers. Very nice interview and with respect, I felt this needed to be added since it really is a complex situation that unfortunately you short interview did not have time to elaborate on. Very nice interview. Thank you for posting.
what happens , when the books printed by grave robbers and colonial zealots that knowledge from from the first print and all knowledge there after is biased wrong , what happens when people just make shit up in there own minds and say they have a connect with the ancestors to archive personal goals for what ever reason , as a Gael i have a big problem with the english and there lack of understanding . you cant just make shit up , no respect
What a fascinating interview and topic!! On Philip's website, he appears to have completely distanced himself, or perhaps left druidry entirely about a year after you made this video, if I read it correctly.
I need to investigate this further but, on first glance, it seems he's less attached to the label rather than having completely distanced himself from Druidry. I'll ask to colleagues expert in the field.
I’ve been having a poke about and have found possible evidence of a ‘Viking period’ sauna on the Brough of Birsay, and a possible Bronze Age sauna or sweat house at Noltland on Westray...so both traditions were around, but at different times.
The dating on the information boards at least was definitely pre-Viking and, I think, contemporary with the Tomb of the Eagles. That is from memory though :-) You we’re there too!
Very interesting because I had researched a complete opposite view of druidry. In my research (which was not alot) ancient druids participated in child sacrifice? Not sure if that is correct.
Getafix from the Asterix comic books was the archetypal druid as far as I'm concerned. It's a pity there wasn't very much about his philosophical beliefs though 😁. Seriously though, it's a pity they don't seem to have written anything down. I used to be interested in Vedanta, but I'm now interested in Neoplatonism. I definitely like idealist systems because that's how I think things are. I've heard the arguments that you can get too hung up on trying to put realty into a box, and that there's room for other approaches too. Still, I think I understand 'spirituality' better on a philosophical basis than any other way, and I definitely wouldn't feel comfortable with investigating gods or rituals if there was no philosophical context to put it all in. I don't assume that other people can't get into that sort of thing in a sincere way just because I can't though- but I can't say I approve all that much of the extinction rebellion connection. I wouldn't really resonate with that kind of thing whatever the political context might be however. I could perhaps get into Graeco Egyptian ritual or something like that because I sort of understand the ideas. Christianity is out because I wasn't brought up religious and would feel a fraud. I also now think the Caesar's Messiah thesis is broadly right and Christianity was one of the most artificial religions of all - which is kind of liberating, but also a bit unnerving perhaps because I have residual ideas that it's not only the most 'proper' religion, but also the most moral one and without it, anything goes. Perhaps that's one reason that even atheists tend to view the occult with suspicion? I just wish that some ancient and indigenous Northern European philosophy had survived - but it seems you Mediterraneans are hogging it all!
@@drangelapuca Thanks, I'll have to watch that I don't go too overboard trying too hard to be deep. I've thought about these sorts of things for a long time, and it's easy to splurge my thoughts out 😆 Anyway, I'm glad it's tolerated here, and your very informative videos give me a lot of material.
love this subject .thank you .You have to wonder why we have next to no information on Druidic practices ? Could it be the most dangerous and powerful Cultural/educational definers' of there time(First written about 300bc) ,upset and even threatened the political titans of the time ,given that the cream of the early Roman aristocratic class were originally sent to be educated by Druids until their almost overnight fall from favour with the first emperor Augustus 14 ad continuing until at least 363 ad. /Sotion of alexandrea - succession of philosophers .Aristotle- book of magic .Pliny the elder. Something very heavy went down back then that makes the Cathar persecution/eradication look menial by scale and duration. Interesting comparisons can be argued between magi /chaldaei/semnothei/druids
Celtic traditions were oral for most of their history, so we don’t have writing from them. Most of our knowledge comes from (biased) Romans, archeology, and written down versions of stories that were largely written by Christians just a few hundred years ago (and often changed to fit with a more Christian worldview). The knowledge just wasn’t passed down effectively over time (largely due to persecution), and it largely became lost. Kind of like the recipe for roman concrete and ancient writing systems we can no longer decipher.
@@drangelapuca Jennifer's entire mention of Gorsedd Ynys Prydein and the eisteddfod tradition (which she mispronounced) was that 'it's a cultural thing'. I appreciate this may be because she isn't an expert on Celtic culture, however knowledge of the stories, poetry and language of the Celtic nations is central to the understanding of Druidry. There seems to be an enormous antipathy between Gorsedd Ynys Prydein and English neo-pagans which goes both ways. The problem is partly religious, as the Welsh and Cornish seem to be mostly Methodists, but also one of cultural appropriation, which does need to be addressed and hopefully healed. It's a big subject which I can't do justice to in a comment, I may do a video on it myself at some point.
All religion is based on shamanism period. Druids worship nature so ofcourse a famous nobody worshipped with the native americans, they did the same thing in different ways. Funny thing is no matter where you look all around the world shamanism exists and works in very similar ways. Its more consistant than religion. Further more what that lady meant to say is there is no "historic" evidence of stone circles like stonehenge being connected to druidry but it is. Druids refered to their hindu counter parts as brothers from the east because they too understood the significance of the leylands and spiritualism as a whole. And stonehenge is on a leyland
Hello, I wanted to send Jennifer an email, but it is no longer in service and all of her other contact accounts are outdated as well. Do you know a way to contact her?
It’s pretty clear the ritual outlines as described here have nothing to do with actual Celtic traditions, but Modern Ceremonial Magic, which in itself is Esoteric Christianity. There is a group of movements dedicated to reconstructing Celtic Religions and have little or nothing to do with the Druid movement, a pity this isn’t even discussed here on this channel
As Above So Below - an elevated spirit may chose to work with you but if it doesn't it will not . They work with us because it elevates them too . Spirits of elevation will probably not even make them selves known to you if you haven't honoured and connected with your Ancestors , be it blood , spiritual or Ancestors of place . In Vodoun , Dominican 21 Division or Orisha you can not work with certain spirits until you are of age meaning 40 + because an 18 year old doesn't have the life experience and understanding of the nuance of people let alone elevated Lwa.
This is what bugs me about Druidry. We know pretty much nothing about them. And now that I know about Gardner's involvement I definitely don't trust it.
noun: indigeneity; plural noun: indigeneities the fact of originating or occurring naturally in a particular place. "collective rights based on the indigeneity of the community" Oxford Languages
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As a Druid (and Wiccan) I found this to be an excellent interview. Many thanks :) Le beannachdan (With blessings).
Re your wee bit at the end - many years ago, prior to a ritual, a guest asked one of our young Bards, "How long does the ceremony last?". The lad replied, "It depends on how much mead we have!" True story ;)
@@ruiseartalcorn haha! Thank you for sharing it! So glad you liked the interview. :-)
This was fantastic! I have always felt a connection to Druidic currents through my Scots-Irish ancestry, and I made reference to it in a hip hop track called Fluid Like A Druid a couple years ago. Several of the odd spiritual experiences I referred to in that song were given amazing context in this interview. The hook of the song said "My ancestry is calling to me/ Voices are echoing through prehistory/ They're trying to show us all a new way to see/ And peacefully bring this machine to its knees". When she described the Druidic concept of ancestry in terms of both blood and place, it made many of my own internal conflicts click into a comprehensible framework. It also made me wonder about how, in the age of the internet, we may also have an ancestry of information. I feel just as much the product of the books I've read and the media I've absorbed as I do the place I grew up or my genetics.
Glad you liked the interview, Andy!
I am a (newish) American member of OBOD and also a witch. For me, the energy of druidry feels calm, balanced, and peaceful. The energy of witchcraft and Wicca feels more wild, exciting, and sometimes dark (not evil.) That is just my experience of it. There are many different types of witches and druids, each with their own feel, beliefs, and practices. The seven answers joke is so true.
thanks for sharing :-)
I heard a saying from someplace. Dont remember where, but for some reason it stuck to me.
To paraphrase:
If you have a problem with the spirit or spirit world, you see a shaman. If you have a problem with the body or the land, you see a druid.
Thanks for sharing! :-)
@@drangelapuca not a problem! And sorry if it's not really substantive. I'm largely still exploring this topic as well. But I'm sure I'll be following you more closely from now on as a lot of your videos I've found to be very useful.
Hello from America! And have an amazing day.
@@Drake9309 Every contribution is substantive for me! I value greatly personal experiences and beliefs. Glad you found my content useful, it really means a lot to me!
Have an amazing day yourself and hello from rainy England! :-)
Nice
@@robgau2501 thanks man.
This was quite a while ago. And I've come to realize that that expression, wherever I got it, is a gross oversimplification. From what I've read. There was a ton of overlap between the two.
We dont know much about the druids in particular. Which is quite a shame because they seem so interesting. But from surviving scripture and legends it almost seems to me to be that druids were sort of an offshoot of shamanism more than a completely independant sect of thought.
The druids were also supposedly very educated for their time. Generally holding high status.
This only applies to their ancient iterations tho. Not the more modern iterations.
Jennifer is such a knowledgeable scholar!
She sure is!
Unitarian Universalist Druid here...I love the British Druid Order. Great interview. Robert Graves and Lewis Spence are important names that helped Druidry become popular again....along with Ross Nichols.
Very interesting interview. Thank you for sharing the knowledge. xx
thanks
That bit about ancestors was interesting as recently I started to realises that ancestors doesn't automatically mean people you are related to it could be people you admire or friends you have known, even pets. I do feel a calling to druidry but I am still trying to figure some stuff out. the books listed will be of help.
Thanks for sharing
Another excellent piece, dear lady. So good to see this subject area being investigated with a bit of enthusiasm and respect :bows:.
I’m a Solitary Druid, myself, which basically boils down to a rather vaguely Celtic/Nordic nature veneration with a side-order of animism :chuckles:. So I was particularly interested in this one :D.
Thanks for your comment! Happy you found it interesting. Are you in the UK, too?
Angela's Symposium I am indeed resident in the U.K. ... my ‘ancestors of place’ have been in place for a minimum of a thousand years (the ‘internal’ myth is that our family farm (sadly now lost to us) was in records from Norman times).
@@Sukerkin that's very interesting!
This was another great interview, the second one I've watched after Jeffery Mishlove. You have an excellent interview technique.
You seemed to cover a lot of ground in a short time. I'll likely watch it again to use it as a starting point for further research. It was good to be informed of modern druidry's concern for the land and ecology. I think about ancient druids a lot. My concerns are about the Roman invasion which was directed specifically at destroying the druids, so that they might dominate Europe with a Roman religion. Ceasar used the rational that druids practiced human sacrifice; it seems there is very little evidence to back this up other that Ceasar's own account. But the Romans' were crucifying thousands of people for their political views. It's hard to get information before 400 years ago as the Catholic Church burnt all the history books during the Reformation. So knowledge has to be extrapolated. I would argue that the druids, like shaman, were right-brained visual thinkers. Right brain thinkers see themselves as part of nature, whereas left brain people stand aloof from nature. Persecution of the 'witches' followed; it seems part of an ongoing war against nature. Much of what Jennifer says here suggests to me that modern druidry is mainly made up of right brain people. I think about 1:10 to 1:20 people are right brained. You have impressed me with your channel so far, Angela; Jeffery was right on the money to recommend it. And a belated welcome to TH-cam, since I've only just found you! :)
thank you so much, Rankemperor! How lovely of you. Let me know what you think of the other videos, too.
Thanks Angela for guiding me towards this video. It had some information I was looking for and I learned a bit too.
Glad you liked it, Corey! I'll make more videos on Druidry in the future 😉
Fantastic video was a joy to hear Jennifer speak. I had joined OBOD and was nice to hear many of the things I had been studying mentioned in what she said.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Another great video! Jennifer is very knowledgeable on the subject and speaks brilliantly. I come from a Bardic family in Ireland that was, in turn, supposedly descended from the Druids. In the maternal side of the family the women of every generation learned how to make herbal cures for things such as burns and other ailments. Sadly the tradition died out around the time of my grandmother. If the witch trials had come to Ireland they would have been burned at the stake!
That's fascinating. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Grateful i found your channel! Thanks to Religion for breakfast, for sending me here🤓 Greetings from Texas, enjoying your videos, cannot stop watching.
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That's lovely, Jennifer! Thank you so much!
Please share my videos around if you want to help us grow! 🤗🖤
@@drangelapuca yes MA'AM! Will do, have a wonderful day!
@@jenniferjack4346 You too, Jennifer! Lots of love.💚
Lovely interview, thank you. Very much appreciated the differentiation between control-focus and a working-with or invitation. ❤
this was so interesting! I apperciate this video
Thank you for doing this. I really enjoyed it.
You are so welcome! Thanks for letting me know
I am a druidic green witch (or green druid) and a lot of what Jennifer says is accurate. I am also a religious scholar and can tell that you both understand how humans share and connect across history.
Glad you think so
Thank you for this! Great information!
So happy you liked it! Please, share it if you want to help me grow the channel! Thank you. :-)
I am so excited with this channel❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thank you so much!
tanks for the new video
Grazie scè :-P
Angela thanks again for a very informative interview. id love to see more a podcast type channel, long format from you. cool studio with guests like Jennifer, anyway its excellent content!
Great idea! Hope I'll be able to do in the future.
I would say the defining difference between druidry and witchcraft is that druidry is emphatically not about control. For example, after I told a colleague that I often avoid the rain because the water spirits like me, he suggested I should try stopping the rain which was overwhelming at that time. I tried and it worked, but I did it by asking my friends for a favour, not by commanding or even bargaining.
When the rain stopped within a few minutes, I went outside and thanked them and blessed them. The colleague was still confused, thinking I had magical powers. I don't. I just ask nicely. I also explained to him that it would be dangerous if I could command the weather, as I have no idea what is necessary. The water spirits know whether they can allow my request without harm elsewhere.
It is never my place to impose my will on the world. I am here to serve all life and to serve the land. In doing so, I form relationships with various spirits, especially, in my case, the water spirits.
thanks for sharing, Helen
Thanks for this interview! It was full of rich information!!
Glad you enjoyed it, Helena!
Great interview. Jennifer sure knows her stuff, so eurdite.
She does! Thanks for sharing, Emil. She'll be back on the Symposium next Sunday at 5 pm (London time) to talk about Christianity vs Paganism!
Very interesting 😊
thanks :-P
Another very informative interview. Enjoying this channel immensely. :))
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Great Interview
thanks
Ancestors of place ✨ I love that!
yes
There is no Native American tribe, there are many, many First Nations amongst the Indigenous peoples of North America. Just as there were many tribes of the Celts/Gaels. However with more language groups. These nations have / had many spiritual societies, rituals, ceremonies, cultural implications, and dynamic influences. Some patriarchal. Some matriarchal. I believe Grey Wolf of the BDO, traveled and has studied with an or more than one, First Nations teacher?It is very important to connect and honour these people and cultures. I was happy to see OBOD went to India as well. I myself have studied with several indigenous teachers and participated in many ceremonies. I was directed to Sundance by an indigenous Sundance Leader which I ended up doing for nine years, and am a Holy Pipe carrier. I was told, that I was not appropriating, I was returning. Sun worship is ancient and something our ancestors have in common. This was my path home to connecting through ceremony with the Sun as deity. Today, I am a practicing Hedge Druid and member of two British Druid organizations whom I study with. Both, have great integrity when it comes to being clear that appropriation is not tolerated. I am very grateful for all of my spiritual teachers.
Very nice interview and with respect, I felt this needed to be added since it really is a complex situation that unfortunately you short interview did not have time to elaborate on. Very nice interview. Thank you for posting.
Thanks for sharing your comment.
what happens , when the books printed by grave robbers and colonial zealots that knowledge from from the first print and all knowledge there after is biased wrong , what happens when people just make shit up in there own minds and say they have a connect with the ancestors to archive personal goals for what ever reason ,
as a Gael i have a big problem with the english and there lack of understanding .
you cant just make shit up ,
no respect
Fantastic. Well put. So succinct and clear.
Very interesting video
Glad you think so!
Excellent! Glad to have found this video because there is far too much inaccurate information out there on Druidism.
Glad you enjoyed it, Jason!
What a fascinating interview and topic!! On Philip's website, he appears to have completely distanced himself, or perhaps left druidry entirely about a year after you made this video, if I read it correctly.
I need to investigate this further but, on first glance, it seems he's less attached to the label rather than having completely distanced himself from Druidry. I'll ask to colleagues expert in the field.
Love this one! Ty
You're welcome 😊
WAW you are gorgeous !!!! i like this video, I'm actually a Bard with the OBOD
Thank you Rafael
Could the Orkney ‘sweat house’ be a ‘viking’ sauna?
I'm not aware of any archaeological studies on the matter. It'd be nice to have or discover some!
I’ve been having a poke about and have found possible evidence of a ‘Viking period’ sauna on the Brough of Birsay, and a possible Bronze Age sauna or sweat house at Noltland on Westray...so both traditions were around, but at different times.
@@hazeluzzell that's very interesting! Thanks for sharing! ^_^
The dating on the information boards at least was definitely pre-Viking and, I think, contemporary with the Tomb of the Eagles. That is from memory though :-) You we’re there too!
Interesting.
Many thanks
The mabinogi is welsh
Thanks for sharing
very interesting
Did she say Churchill was a Druid?
Yes, he was!
Yes. I believe he was inducted into the "Albion Lodge" in 1922.
Very interesting because I had researched a complete opposite view of druidry. In my research (which was not alot) ancient druids participated in child sacrifice? Not sure if that is correct.
Very lovely interview.
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So happy t hear you liked it! Thank you. xx
Getafix from the Asterix comic books was the archetypal druid as far as I'm concerned. It's a pity there wasn't very much about his philosophical beliefs though 😁. Seriously though, it's a pity they don't seem to have written anything down. I used to be interested in Vedanta, but I'm now interested in Neoplatonism. I definitely like idealist systems because that's how I think things are. I've heard the arguments that you can get too hung up on trying to put realty into a box, and that there's room for other approaches too.
Still, I think I understand 'spirituality' better on a philosophical basis than any other way, and I definitely wouldn't feel comfortable with investigating gods or rituals if there was no philosophical context to put it all in. I don't assume that other people can't get into that sort of thing in a sincere way just because I can't though- but I can't say I approve all that much of the extinction rebellion connection. I wouldn't really resonate with that kind of thing whatever the political context might be however. I could perhaps get into Graeco Egyptian ritual or something like that because I sort of understand the ideas.
Christianity is out because I wasn't brought up religious and would feel a fraud. I also now think the Caesar's Messiah thesis is broadly right and Christianity was one of the most artificial religions of all - which is kind of liberating, but also a bit unnerving perhaps because I have residual ideas that it's not only the most 'proper' religion, but also the most moral one and without it, anything goes. Perhaps that's one reason that even atheists tend to view the occult with suspicion? I just wish that some ancient and indigenous Northern European philosophy had survived - but it seems you Mediterraneans are hogging it all!
I really enjoy reading your comments, Eman
@@drangelapuca
Thanks, I'll have to watch that I don't go too overboard trying too hard to be deep. I've thought about these sorts of things for a long time, and it's easy to splurge my thoughts out 😆 Anyway, I'm glad it's tolerated here, and your very informative videos give me a lot of material.
Have you seen the movie "Midsommar"? Was it an accurate portrayl of Paganism? Can you do a movie review Angela?
I haven't seen it. I should!
love this subject .thank you .You have to wonder why we have next to no information on Druidic practices ? Could it be the most dangerous and powerful Cultural/educational definers' of there time(First written about 300bc) ,upset and even threatened the political titans of the time ,given that the cream of the early Roman aristocratic class were originally sent to be educated by Druids until their almost overnight fall from favour with the first emperor Augustus 14 ad continuing until at least 363 ad. /Sotion of alexandrea - succession of philosophers .Aristotle- book of magic .Pliny the elder. Something very heavy went down back then that makes the Cathar persecution/eradication look menial by scale and duration. Interesting comparisons can be argued between magi /chaldaei/semnothei/druids
Celtic traditions were oral for most of their history, so we don’t have writing from them. Most of our knowledge comes from (biased) Romans, archeology, and written down versions of stories that were largely written by Christians just a few hundred years ago (and often changed to fit with a more Christian worldview). The knowledge just wasn’t passed down effectively over time (largely due to persecution), and it largely became lost. Kind of like the recipe for roman concrete and ancient writing systems we can no longer decipher.
Very good apart from the off-hand dismissal of Celtic culture. So many English pagans do this.
Can you expand more on that? :-) Glad you liked the video.
@@drangelapuca Jennifer's entire mention of Gorsedd Ynys Prydein and the eisteddfod tradition (which she mispronounced) was that 'it's a cultural thing'. I appreciate this may be because she isn't an expert on Celtic culture, however knowledge of the stories, poetry and language of the Celtic nations is central to the understanding of Druidry. There seems to be an enormous antipathy between Gorsedd Ynys Prydein and English neo-pagans which goes both ways. The problem is partly religious, as the Welsh and Cornish seem to be mostly Methodists, but also one of cultural appropriation, which does need to be addressed and hopefully healed. It's a big subject which I can't do justice to in a comment, I may do a video on it myself at some point.
Jennifer's understanding of Neo-pagan Druidry, on the other hand, is excellent.
A Druid is channeling the life force of nature
glad you liked the interview
I agree, it is all about nature.
They make it all up for cosplay.
Angela? 😘😘😍
hope you liked the interview
Did you say death rites?
All religion is based on shamanism period. Druids worship nature so ofcourse a famous nobody worshipped with the native americans, they did the same thing in different ways. Funny thing is no matter where you look all around the world shamanism exists and works in very similar ways. Its more consistant than religion. Further more what that lady meant to say is there is no "historic" evidence of stone circles like stonehenge being connected to druidry but it is. Druids refered to their hindu counter parts as brothers from the east because they too understood the significance of the leylands and spiritualism as a whole. And stonehenge is on a leyland
Jennifer was amazing at explaining Druidry! Glad it was inspiring to you. :)
Most religions are based on celestial events.
What's a "leyland"? Do you mean LEY LINES?
Hello, I wanted to send Jennifer an email, but it is no longer in service and all of her other contact accounts are outdated as well. Do you know a way to contact her?
I just wanted to thank her for her definition of ancestry, and explain a bit about why that was mind blowing for me.
Angela, you forgot to ask her if Druids do animal sacrifices and if so how often and what percentage of them do it and why?
they don't
@@drangelapuca Why did Julius Caesar's journal say that the Druids did human sacrifices then?
It’s pretty clear the ritual outlines as described here have nothing to do with actual Celtic traditions, but Modern Ceremonial Magic, which in itself is Esoteric Christianity.
There is a group of movements dedicated to reconstructing Celtic Religions and have little or nothing to do with the Druid movement, a pity this isn’t even discussed here on this channel
thanks for sharing your thoughts
Cymru am byth
Thanks for sharing
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As Above So Below - an elevated spirit may chose to work with you but if it doesn't it will not . They work with us because it elevates them too . Spirits of elevation will probably not even make them selves known to you if you haven't honoured and connected with your Ancestors , be it blood , spiritual or Ancestors of place . In Vodoun , Dominican 21 Division or Orisha you can not work with certain spirits until you are of age meaning 40 + because an 18 year old doesn't have the life experience and understanding of the nuance of people let alone elevated Lwa.
thanks for sharing
@@drangelapuca Does your expertise , research etcetera involve the pantheon of non Abrahamic 'religions' ?
Population Matters
This is what bugs me about Druidry. We know pretty much nothing about them. And now that I know about Gardner's involvement I definitely don't trust it.
glad you found your way
@@drangelapuca tbank you. You're too kind. And I actually haven't. I think you're channel is well done btw
@@robgau2501 Thank you. I'm glad you like it.
" decentralized religion "
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Druidry is the Semitic import that blended with native pre-Aryan cults and peoples in Britain.
Any reference to recommend?
There's no such word as "indigeneity" in the English language.
what do you mean, Dara?
@@drangelapuca I mean exactly what I said, what else would I mean?
noun: indigeneity; plural noun: indigeneities
the fact of originating or occurring naturally in a particular place.
"collective rights based on the indigeneity of the community"
Oxford Languages