Sequelitis - ZELDA: A Link to the Past vs. Ocarina of Time
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Is Ocarina of Time REALLY the masterpiece we all say it is? What did it do to change how Zelda games are made? How much hate mail WILL I get for this?! - เกม
Wow. This made me realize that Arin was truly begging for Breath of the Wild before it was even a thing. No wonder it’s his favorite Zelda game now.
I was wondering if the team watch this video and then made the game.
Which surprises me, because I found the content in BotW very one note and pretty boring tbh. I can only see so many 2 braincell solution shrines before I eventually tap out lol
Jedy Zichterman I’m actually working on a video essay about why BotW isn’t Zelda right now and honestly the more I work on it the more evidence I gather.
@@weebsportsresort682 Are you going to use low fi hip hop beats in the background while usually beeing an english native speaker and advertise skillshare to us around 40% into the video?
Sir Colt No, I’m going to use Persona and Zelda music. As for Skillshare, I’m too cool for sponsors. (My way of saying that I have 20 subs)
I wonder how angry and/or insane Arin can get if he did a sequelitis on Sonic the Hedgehog.
i would pay good money for that however im afraid it would give him a brain aneurysm
Seeing how the footage from sonic adventure 1 in this video is glitches that actually have to be forced to happen. not accidents. he is gonna have to take awhile.. quiet awhile.
I wonder what his reaction to the sburb beta would be
@@briancarlson6216 isn't that what game grumps is for? To see Egoraptor and Danny lose their sanity playing games.
@@herbalursa3524 I mean sure but I also sometimes like to appreciate one comedian doing a bit as well I'm not always looking for 2 people
Almost 9 years later and now you can finally explore a dungeon with your Goron friend.
You mean you can explore one room with your Goron friend.
@@ElvenRaptor I think you mean you can explore the entire map with your Goron friend
@@umberscore2051 You could already do that in Majora's Mask.
There’s no friend in Majora’s Mask, YOU are the Goron and friend at the same time… because you’re alone
@@WL-bs4nc Okay, and...? Still not anything new.
I still have hope that one day Arin makes another one of these. His humor just shines in this kind of format
Same, man. I get that the guy is up to his neck in work and videos like this one takes way too much work, but I really enjoyed the Sequelitis videos and I wish there's another one at some point
Too bad his arguments suck ass and he has no ground to stand on lmao
Probably too much effort required, I don't think it's ever gonna happen lol
I think if he made another, it wouldn't be the same. He's changed so much since then.
His humor isn't the same anymore, it feels too forced and disingenuous. He's overly concerned with not offending anyone to a unhealthy degree
Imagine Arin doing a sequalitis on Skyward Sword vs Breath Of The Wild, he would lose his shit
The funny part this that they have the same director.
Imagine Arin doing sequalitis anymore, i would lose my shit.
@@h.p.wallnut9912 We*
Would be a great return to sequalitis
I'd pay to see that 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
30:35 "You can hit that subscribe button right there, and that'll let you know when new sequelitises are coming out"
😞
PrematureMailbox it still hurts...
Agreed. Maybe one day man.
"There is... so much... GODDAMN waiting!"
Plot twist, in 2020. I'm calling it now.
PrematureMailbox hang in there, one day... one day💀
I can’t believe this was made seven years ago. I remember being so excited when it showed up on my feed, because I’d been waiting years for another sequelitis.
You’re gonna be waiting for another 7 years
Lol it’s at 9 now
"There's no challenge jumping over things, no trouble! I just need to press up! I can close my eyes and do this!"
Later, Arin has a mental breakdown over just "pressing up" in Majora's Mask.
This guy reminds me alot of Arin from Game Grumps. What are the chances we could get him on the show?
Garpogods tHaT’s bEcAuSe iT iS aRiN
@@junkiiramen That's the joke
@@junkiiramen What? No fucking way, totally different people! One is clearly called Egoraptor and is a cartoon, whilst Arin is a human being.
@@junkiiramen omg your a genius!!!
@@junkiiramenr/woooosh
Came here from the Grumps playing OoT and now I have to rewatch it.
+Zachary Roberts same
Same
+Zachary Roberts Same
Same
likewise
Maybe a controversial take, but Zelda isn't really about exploring and hasn't been since the NES games. It's become about exploring again with BOTW and TOTK, but for most of its run, the main gameplay of the series has not revolved around exploring. It's mainly about going to specific locations and solving puzzles there, and completing some levels. I don't even think OoT pretends to be about exploration, it's pretty blatantly guiding you from one dungeon to the next. The fact that people love the game in spite of that tells me that you probably shouldn't judge it as an exploration type game. It should be reviewed on its own merits.
Thats.... kind of the point of the video?
I'd say much of what he says still stands when looking at Ocarina in isolation. Definitely not a perfect game, and its wrinkles in how it tries to translate Zelda into 3D get ironed out (more or less) in its sequels. Even taken on its own, I still think the game is a bit bloated and, at times, lacking in good pacing in its second half. I think the massive asterisk to Ocarina's name is that it was really the first of its kind in 3D, and the fact that it got a lot right on its first try is incredible...
... But that said, this video is entirely about removing Ocarina from the context of its time, seeing how well it stacks up today when _compared_ to its brethren. I think it would be a little narrow-minded to try and encircle Ocarina and other 3D entries in their own bubble of "different," when they bare the name of the series and still attempt at loosely following the exploration/combat template set by Ocarina.
Especially after Breath of the Wild, I think Arin was on the right track when he essentially questions just how "Zelda" is Ocarina of Time? Considering they trended the series back to the roots of the series with the last couple of entries (though I think TOTK was far less successful at that), Ocarina's shadow over the series needed some productive rethinking.
The funny thing is years later Arin starts playing Majoras mask and tries to follow the formula that ocarina of time gave even though the game was mainly sidequest heavy and doesn't want you to play it like you would ocarina of time.
Arin is so busy trying to prove a point that every 3D Zelda is bad or the same thing as OoT (excluding BoTW) that he tries to brute force his way from point A to point B only stopping t talk about how bad and linear it is when a game is open or in the case of SS get lost on a path that is on 1 side a straight line to you goal and on the other a shortcut to an earlier location for if you come back to the begining instead of using a later on bird statue then he runs around for 3+ episodes complaining that the game holds your hand to much while struggling over 45-60 minutes to find something that will take most people about 10 minutes to find bc he's so busy complaining that the game doesn't let you figure things out and when it does it's in an "unintuitive way"
Arin thinks that being told that there is a switch hidden in a room isn't a puzzle even though it's what all Zelda's do
In 3D Zelda's they hide them out of sight and make you look around for them in ALttP they are usually under pots or skulls or something else that hides it from the players vision so you have to look around
@@alexskocy9948 Its like with Castlevania, he played part 1 and Zelda 1 and since then thinks every Zelda/Castlevania has to be like that but the games switched their main genre pretty much after part 1. LotP and Castlevania 2 and later are no longer adventures/linear jump n runs. Zelda went more towards adventure-RPG and Castlevania went towards Metroidvania but that is not inherently bad, its just a taste thing. The things he says about Z-targeting for example are all true, clunky and sloppy but when he starts talking about the story its just a taste thing...dialogue in a game isnt inherently a bad thing but for him it is since its "not what Zelda 1 was like". Yeah guess what the genre is different....
@@alexskocy9948 I don't understand how he can be so impatient. Ocarina of time isn't really that much waiting
@@Elaina2206 One tiny section of gameplay. If one cutscene that is played for comedic affect is the best example for the game dragging
@@Elaina2206 🗿
"None of these enemies are difficult to fight" ...How about those clams
Arin's archenemy
J310 FUCKING CLAMS
J310 FUCK CLAMS! FUCK GERUDO LADY!
J310 arin didnt use his sheild thats his fault lol
Better not fuck the Gerudo lady if she got clams
Still one of my favorite thing's Egoraptor has ever said... "what am I doing with my life, I am harshly criticizing Ocarina of Time on the Internet. I'M GONNA GET CRUCIFIED!" this was the last we heard of him, no one knows if he was crucified or is in hiding. Sources say Arin Hanson of Game Grumps may know his whereabouts.
Edit: this gem is at 17:25... Egoraptor still has not been found to this day, and Arin Hanson of Game Grumps refuses any comments on the matter of his whereabouts, 8 years after this video was made, and 2 since my comment was. Journalists still trying to dig for the truth.
Hm, sounds credible, I'll get my team to get into contact with him.
He does do "walking away from the mic while shouting" moments really well. I like the "NO BIG DEAL" one, too. Maybe he's related to Arin Hanson of Game Grumps.
He's a self proclaimed martyr....
That's cool, my favorite Egoraptor quote is "OOOOOPSSSZ" 13:03
13:03 I love how that "OOPS" became a sound bite now
In a perfect world Arin would make a new Zelda Sequelitis comparing Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom.
Nerrel has a good one
Same game, TOTK just has more stuff and different abilities.
theyre the same game you redditard
Shit games. What fun is exploration when you already know the best thing you are gonna get is a fucking shrine lmao. You get to a huge area to find shrines lmao
I just noticed, after all these years, Arin named his Link in Skyward Sword “Ugghhhhhh”
Nah in the GG playthrough his name was Spoompls
His ocarina play through has “Buttface, you have truly matured as an adult” 😂
@@MarioPfhorG and link to the past has... "FARTS!"
"Master Uggghhhhhhhh" still gets me every. Single. Time.
same, and i rewatch all the sequilities about thrice a month
I think he doesn't like skyward sword .
I must not have been paying attention when did he say that?
Nobody likes Skyward Sword.
Stop looking at facebook on your phone when you're watching videos.
@@Zeldahol I don't know how I'm supposed to stop though!! I mean have you seen these cat videos?!?!?
Brian Thompson you are redeemed sir.
Still waiting on that sonic sequilitis….or any sequilitis…
There is so much….. GOD DAMN WAITING for another Squeilitis
arin doesn't even like 2d sonic idk why he would make a sequelitis for it
Coming back to Egoraptor's old flash videos armed with the knowledge that he's incapable of learning game mechanics really clarifies everything.
I mean he has ADHD. And he’s trying to run a show at the same time and be funny. Everyone learns in different ways, and for him, tutorials and text don’t do it. Probably same reason he struggled in high school. He’s just not wired that way.
@@onemanteam6543 I have ADHD. It doesn't make you retarded.
@@onemanteam6543 then he really shouldn't be critiquing games that he's not "wired" to enjoy then.
@@sloppyphart7879 That’s my point though, I don’t think he understood how anyone could enjoy them. Nowadays he’s mellowed out on a lot of these things, probably because he’s older and has less of a belief that everyone plays the same way he does. You can see that he generally makes less criticisms like this in GG episodes, and when he does, they’re more presented as obligatory gestures to be funny that always end in (essentially) “but whatever though-if you can enjoy it, good for you.” He’s more willing today to view his opinions on game design as opinions rather than fact-which, if you liked his habit of ruffling feathers, makes him a little more boring, but it does definitely make him more palatable to people who think differently about games.
But he also refuses to try and learn, resulting in him then pissing and moaning or shitting on mechanics when it takes 2 seconds to read how to play or just do the damn tutorial. I have ADHD, not a excuse for him.
OH FUCK YES!!!!!!!!
Oh hi danny/brian.
Do you day that to anything that pleases you, Dan/Brian? XD
Mind your language young man/ninja
FINALLY! Am I right?
ninja brian no kill us pls
“I S E E Y O U T H E R E L O O M I N”
That kills me every time
Jaker The Snaker
I started using this in life and every time I hope people catch the reference... they never do.
@@bettyjojoeharperre-imagina7322 Why does he call it that?
hi reddit
Sorry man I’m just curious 😟
Luigi looks like Wallace without the mustache
I miss these Sequelitis videos, I really wish Arin would go make more of these videos from time to time
Unfortunately with how much time game grumps needs he can’t, I bet he still wants to but just can’t
@@PunchCounterpunch_Lizzy He should really just hire some animators for that and have them follow his usual art style
@@YanZ_Editswhy? To please some weirdos online? Y’all need to accept that people and their interests change
if you like sequilitis then go watch caddicarus instead because the jokes are top notch than AVGN and SCOTT THE WOZ
@@jon1819his fans are weirdos now?💀
It’s almost comforting to know that Arin has never changed.
well in a few ways he has changed to the better, erasing most stupidly driven behavior he has shown in the past (that can be considered as bad) but he's kept the good things in him and tried to always learn to be a better person... which is something you dont see all that often... (but yeah he's super sweet and awesome as a person)
@@bozmundarts2614 yeah. He’s grown in a lot of really great ways but kept a lot of the old great stuff too :)
@@bozmundarts2614 That's a big bruh moment if I've ever seen one. The guy is as close minded about games as the dude he made fun of at the start lol. Only his opinion ever matters.
@@panthekirb7561 boy! Its almost as if its a video talking about his personal opinion with re clarification of it at the very end, ITS ALMOST as if y'all are stiff minded as heck.
ha
you think arin hasn't changed
you still have faith that egoraptor is still alive and not replaced by a corporate shill
how adorable
I literally just rewatched this for the part where he goes "OoPs"
It’s at 13:02, dear future readers.
butterman59
I actually say that. Oooops!
I'm here for the "oH mY gOoOoD!..."
It's at 26:42
Steelson Strough 5:11 here you go
“That’ll let you know when New Sequelitises are coming out”
Funny, Arin, real funny.
ikr
Well he DOES like to call himself a professional comedian.
Best joke in the entire Video, tbh
@@MidnightMuffin Makes people laugh
@@SnekOil laughing so hard we cry and cry and cry
Anybody else notice he was still wearing the hover boots when he didn’t need to in the footage?
He legit did EVERYTHING wrong in his playthrough. This is a terrible review by someone who stubbornly ignored basic game mechanics until the very end.
21:19 Movie Dialogue:
There were all sorts of bad things going on but wait This HERO guy showed up and now things are great! It's really quite fortunate for us that this HERO decided to save everyone. Man, what a great guy, that HERO character.
I remember when the HERO first arrived to save our sorry butts. the antagonist was all like, "Grr." but the HERO was like, "Not so fast." and the day was saved! We will forever be in that HERO's debt, whatever his name was. Thank you HERO! We love you forever!
This one time the HERO was like, "You got any change?" And I was like, "If course my man! You're the HERO!" He never paid me back, but that's okay. I'm sure he didn't mean anything by it.
I read this in Arin's voice XD
Wait, Arin just said attacking a clam isn't hard. I'VE WATCHED HIM GET KILLED BY THEM REPEATEDLY
FUCKING CLAMS
Fugin clams
Ah, I see you have discovered the truth.
they are kinda wierd like that, i had trouble with them
They aren't hard as long as you're paying attention and not trying to also do improvisational comedy at the same time as playing a game.
"You can click that subscribe button right there, and that'll let you know when a new sequilitis is coming out"
The wait has been long, but our vigil holds: we must be ready should the signal come. I am sure it will be any day now...
he's said many times he doesn't want to do more but I still hold to hope. These videos are both interesting and so funny that they're a joy to rewatch every now and then
@@MechanicalRabbits i completely disagree with his opinions in this video and it’s my favorite sequelitis episode to rewatch lol
still waiting, i can wait more
Honestly makes me want to watch the LOTR again.
It's not gonna happen.
arin accidentally produced about a decade of memes from this video alone
Listen, I can't be the only person who appreciated Arin's dinosaur joke.
I looked through the comments. I CAN'T BE THE ONLY ONE.
I LOVE THE DINOSAUR JOKE SO MUCH
Quote it everytime I see it
"Jus' lookit that...lookit that comment acknowledging the dinosaurs...
...
There's a fuckin' DINO COMMENT right there"
"You can subscribe to know when new Sequilitis episodes come out!"
*4 years later*
I'm wondering if maybe he's just said everything he wanted to.
I honestly hope he makes a fuckin huge video
On Minecraft porn
@@Cpg443 ... you sir have my interest
We must not lose hope =)
I like how Dan references this video all the time and is a genuine fan of his buddy's work. I want a friend like Dan.
Everyone does
He's a really cool dude but he's such a yes man to everything Arin says, I'd like it if Dan could say just once something that combats with Arin's point of view.
Cusionmon maybe that's because danny actually agrees with what arin says.
I mean when Arin says stupid stuff without justifying it or giving a good example and Dan just takes his word for it, like with sonic Arin is very rarely fair with Sonic, and I know that most of his games aren't great but he never gives a good reason why he clumps all the games together when he doesn't even give the original trilogy a chance. Dan just agrees with him when he knows nothing about Sonic.
An example of someone being fair with sonic even when they don't really like him would be Vinny from Vinesauce. Vinny said that he disliked sonic as a kid because the commercials for genesis told him how to hate and he could never really get into Sonic because of those experiences. Despite that he still gave Sonic a chance by playing through Sonic 3 and Knuckles with Imakuni, and by the end he said that he really enjoyed it.
Cusionmon or the subway conversation
I feel like most of Arin's issues with Ocarina of Time tend to boil down to skill issues, a lot of the waiting CAN be skipped through if you know different shortcuts to different enemies, like the wolves dying in one hit if your strike their tail, or the stalfos being pathetic against deku nuts.
He also skips when the game shows him where to go next and is incapable of recognizing when he's being subtly told what to do next.
@@ElvenRaptor and then can't decide wether the game is too unclear or too hand holdy.
@@aeroblu2002 He'll complain both ways, because in Arin's mind, OoT can do no right.
@@ElvenRaptor he doesn't hate the game, though a lot of his issues aren't really issues against the game itself.
@@aeroblu2002His LP sure made it look like he hates the game. He undermined it at every opportunity just to make it look bad to his impressionable young viewers.
30:34 so glad I subscribed 8 years ago and got notified of all the new Sequelitis episodes!
Egoraptor: **complains about Zelda being hand-holdy and slow**
Nintendo, about to make BotW: a’aight
Behold the power of expression. :)
Less handholding but even slower
@@waterguyroks slower? How is it slower? Its bigger so sure it takes more time to move around. But it not slower. A game that lets you go to the last boss within the first hour is not slow.
@@Darkstander Sure, but at that point you're not playing the game. You're playing a single boss fight. And I get that some people find that fun, and it is good that the option is at least there. But if you want to actually play the game for everything it has to offer and do all the wondrous exploring that Arin spent 30 minutes arguing for, it's hella slow.
@@neuroveyne9044 one of the best things about botw is that you can play it however you want, at any pace you want. and the world you're in is huge and fun to explore. so even if it slower paced, i feel that its hard to be bored in botw. its not a bad thing to take your time. and again, the game doesn't force you to take your time if you don't want to
"GUESS GOOFY'S WEIGHT. WIN A PRIZE!'
"120 lbs?"
"No. *'s too low."*
First time I watched I heard "GUESS GOOFY WAITS, WITH PIE!" "120lbs?" "No. It's too low" haha
@@felippesponton it took me like, 3 years until i could understand what he was saying. and when i finally figured it out i burst out laughing lmao
@@dylanloveland4590 pls explain
I don't know why but this moment is one of my favorite parts of this video
SO THAT'S WHAT HE SAID!!
I love sequilitis. Just the way he presents everything and the pacing and the Arin jokes, it's so good it makes me feel so good. I am constantly in a conflict to where I would LOVE more sequilitis but I am also aware that if he was just forced to make more it would be phoned in and it would not be merely as emotional or passionate as these episodes are....so instead I just watch these over and over again. I would love to make a series in honor of sequilitis. It's so good. It's probably my favorite work of arins
Agreed, I love how seamlessly he flows from topic to topic. It's unfortunate that this video is so poorly received. While his opinions didn't agree with the majority, the way he structured the video was incredibly entertaining, which was kind of the whole point.
@@lordsuinax3470 The video is really bad when you give it any thought. Watch even parts of the "this is how you don't play" series about Arin playing the Zelda games. All he does is cry because he is bad at the games and refuses to get better.
Its like if someone fell into the first pit in a Super Mario game and complained that the game expects you to jump over obstacles.
"Phoned in" is the Arin Hanson MO recently
Someone did a couple episodes of The Fake Sequelitis, but I hate to admit this, the guy's voice just isn't that funny to me. That was what did half of this content for me: Arin has the voice and deliberate inflection of a natural entertainer. I kept WANTING to hear him say more. It was hilarious.
It reminded me of this episode of Last Comic Standing where one of the guys had some really funny jokes but he was telling them with this scared voice and expression, and I was like "wtf is wrong with you, if you can't chill out for a small panel of judges then are you really going to make it onstage" it's a bit rough but honest. The judges were laughing some of the time, but I couldn't, even though the jokes were legit funny. If someone like Arin told them, I would have been rolling on the floor.
By making fun of the Spinner, you have officially provoked a gang war
soooooo basically dark souls
YOU. I like you. You give me a funny feeling in my pantsicles.
Praise the sun.
Like an older, rudimentary Dark Souls. Man that'd be something, wouldn't it? If instead of the Dynasty Warriors/Zelda crossover that's coming up if instead it was a Souls/Zelda crossover
zombieplasticclock PRAISE THE TRIFORCE!! The.... Sun... force...
PRAISE THE SUNFORCE!!
thats what i was thinking!
:3 hi ....haha its funny cause i was think dark souls as well xD a sense of exploration an that feeling of you can go anywhere and challenge and such...yeah okay bye vaati :3 love your vids an your awesome
"You should never, ever, ever, ever, ever reach that point where you're like ah I'll check that room later----IN A GAME ABOUT CHECKING ROOMS"
That is literally only a player preference
@@AkameGaKillfan777 yeah I don’t think I’ve ever said I’ll check that room later in a Zelda game 😅
@@lowstandards3148 As a kid, you check every room. As an adult, you know that the game will send you there later so you don't bother.
@@far2ez539
Not really.
I feel like through playing oot and majoras mask there’s a lot of times where I’m like, “what other items can I find before I go where I think is the main path to the boss” i wouldn’t say that’s a bad thing
"Wait... attack... wait... attack... IS NOT SO HARD!"
And years later... we got Arin Hanson flippin his shit over a god damn clam. lol
old meme
@@alanivar2752 What are you, the meme police?
“It’s not very hard to do and it’s difficult to mess up”, says the guy with less than three hearts in every clip.
I love Ocarina of Time as much as the next guy, but every piece of criticism Arin gives is absolutely correct. It doesn't mean it's any less of a good game.
Every game has flaws. Appreciate Arin for having the balls to point it out. This was an extremely interesting and informative video.
I felt the treasure chest thing was a little nitpicky, but he did have a lot of good points.
Joey Matheny I grew up with all the Zelda games, and the treasure chest thing is something that I noticed myself! I always got incredibly excited to see a treasure chest, but now I don't feel that excited because I can usually guess what it's going to be before I even open it. But getting the big key was always like, "YES!!!! NOW I CAN GO OPEN THAT HUGE AWESOME LOOKING CHEST AND DESTROY THE BOSS!!!!" See the difference? It goes from "I'M SO EXCITED!!!!!" to... "meh... lame... another compass."
If you truly love something- you admit it's flaw's, accept them, and continue loving it
I like this comment.
Nycro 1) Comment makes perfect sense.
2) Doesn't realise I whore myself to Arin and not Zelda fanbases. 0/10
so ocarina of time is why im more patient then my siblings
“U have an uncle
I don’t know what his name is
He dies…”
Lmfao I lost my sht
It's like Nintendo watch this whole entire analysis and taking their notes down. Then create Breath of the Wild.
IKR!!
I was going to make this comment. Glad to see others recognized it =P
Honestly, the similarity between Arin's suggestions and the product that is Breath of the Wild is uncanny.
The only main difference may show up when we get to see villages and NPCs, which may provide plot-based context to some sidequests, perhaps.
Pardon me, but I have yet to see any dinosaurs in Breath of the Wild.
Graphomite
Well... we had Miyamoto presenting it.
Does that count?
9:11 Arin fighting the clam: “it’s not very hard to do!”
Me: OH IS IT NOT, ARIN????
My exact reaction
His playthrough begs to differ. Reminds me of DSP insisting the boss on Dark Souls that took him over an hour to beat wasn't hard.
@@VGamingJunkie But like... a clam isn't a dark souls boss? It's hard to be patient when you're dealing with a clam because there's no good reason that the clam should be a threat, and it shouldn't block your progress.
@@bloodlustrous Dear me, you seem to think I was comparing their difficulties. I'm saying that insisting something that's kicking your ass isn't actually hard. If it wasn't hard, he wouldn't have kept dying.
“FUCKING CLAAAYUM!!”
Back here after TOTK. Gotta say, they did what Arin wanted in BOTW and only expanded on them now. Cave exploration, it’s own take on the dark world/future world, and they made our dungeon companions super useful. When the Sages in Ocarina gave us their seals, they said we got their power… but no we did not. Now the Sages have unique abilities and fight along side you.
This Sequelitis criticisms were fixed and exceeded imho.
Edit: Oh and like BOTW they have actual puzzles that army whacking a diamond or shooting an eyeball. And they’re FUN! I hate when I find a “Rauru’s Gift” shrine where all I did was find it in a cave. That’s not hard. At least have me carry the crystal thru the cave. Other than that, they’re all fun!
No, they didn't. ToTK is somehow even less of a Zeld agame than BotW was. The dungeons are just gone now, replaced with single puzzle rooms.
Even though I really like those games their dungeons are hot garbage, and the puzzles can be cheesed in so many different ways that they’re very often underwhelming
I just fundamentally disagree, well aware I'm biased as n64 was my first console and OOT my first Zelda game but still. Games like the last two and others like it in different franchises have never appealed to me, having the option to do whatever you want is good to a certain extent but when it goes so far as to feel directionless like BOTW etc it just loses its fun.
Arin During Sequelitis: "Ah yes, The amazing Controls are easy to learn and use."
Arin During Gameplay: "HOW DO I FUCKING DO THIS SHIT!"
AutomaticRogue I understand what you're trying to convey but why put it in quotations, it doesn't look smart
idk, seemed like something he'd say. I'm not really trying to 'convey' a point, just making a joke.
AutomaticRogue Yeah, sorry I get you, I get worked up over dumb things when I'm annoyed
all good :)
" I get worked up over dumb things" that's half of the comment section nowadays.
I don't care what year it is, I'll still be here.
you couldve waited until jan 1st 2019 for added validity but you didnt, so perish.
@@kibberkobber We're the true intellectuals here.
Same man.
Pp hard.
Soooo who is here in 3748
Arin really sugested an escort mission as a way to improve OOT 😂
Escort missions suck because the escort is useless to you. Arin suggested an ally who can help you and hold their own to a degree.
@@ImFangzBronope, escort missions suck in every single game. Even Deep Rock Galactic has stupid escort missions, which is an apt comparison because it's another game about exploration and combat, but the escort missions take away the exploration half and make you follow a strict path and stay close to an npc ally. Especially since all the escort does is drill, and one of the four playable classes is literally called the driller. DRG is a bastion of good game design with open ended exploration and combat that go hand in hand just like Ego is talking about, but escort missions are a blight upon a nearly masterpiece of a game.
TL;DR escort missions suck in every game
@@epsilon6516 your whole argument just says how escorting was bad in drg that doeant mean it cant be implemented correctly
@@epsilon6516 Overwatch's payload game mode is very fun, but it is a PVP game, so it's different ig
@@LethalByte69 payload is boring as hell in overwatch. The only good game modes are king of the hill and ctf blitz
There's a lot of nit picking going on here. ALTTP was a great Zelda game but not on the level OOT was in terms of world building. I gave no shits about anything in LTTP the characters meant nothing to me at all. And when I finished the game as fun as it was i forgot about it and stopped caring it gave me nothing to come back to. LTTP was good among the best of Zelda games but there is a reason its not taken seriously when greatest games of all time is brought up.
"That'll let you know when new Sequilitises are coming out" best joke of the video.
Hahahahhahahhahahhahahahhahahahha! xD
This video has so much more context when you know Arin doesn't know he has a shield in OoT.
or any other item for that matter, but yes, playing OoT without ever removing the hover boots does make it go slower
@@satan-kun8974 It also has a lot more stratagy
@@satan-kun8974 There are a lot of enemies who if you just let hit you when your shield is up they open their hit window sooner and more predictably. But yeah there's still so much god damn waiting in this game. I'm looking at you mr sqeaky ass zora.
@@satan-kun8974 every enemy he uses as an example for this point has a way to open up their guard lol
@@satan-kun8974 Deku nuts for a start.
So many years later, still watch this from time to time.
Same
Think I've watched it like once every two or so years since 2015😅
the editing is top notch in these jeez
I still don't know if he liked bomb bowling.
MrChocodemon
I'm sure you know by now, but he hates it. If you watch the clips while he says "Bomb bowling", they all show Link missing, or a explosion (from a bomb) hitting Link.
He stated that in Game Grump's last Mario Maker video.
MrChocodemon it's pretty obvious that he hates it considering after he was talking about it he's like FUCK THIS GAME
Ace Fenton It wasn't that clear from the video and I wasn't sure myself until Dan asked him what that was about (because he too didn't know).
Alcest9870 so did he like it?
Ilja Parfjonovs
No. Arin hates bomb bowling, and Skyward Sword in general.
"Wait, attack. It's not hard to do!" *gets killed by clams endlessly in both ocarina and majoras mask on gg*
Mans didn't even use his shield
And im pretty sure he hasnt beaten the bat demon guy in the stone temple
Spencer Gallucci I HATE THOSE F*CKING CLAMS
I think hes talking about how tedious the game is
To be fair, he's never really tried that hard. He's said before he doesn't really focus on gsmeplay during playthroughs, choosing just to roll through and have fun. Plus, he already hates the games, so it's kinda like a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I am a big fan of Arin Hanson whoever there is something that must be said of this video.
This is just Arin being biased.
He obviously likes a link to the past better since by his own words he hates being told what to do in game.
A link to the past is arguably worse since they straight up tell you which one to go next while on ocarina of time its just the first 3 that get the railroady treatment.
By his own critique of the game the original Legend of Zelda is the best game since you could go anywhere yet he keeps comparing it to a link to the past.
Not to mention that he is obviously playing the game wrong.
The closest I would compare it to is to trying to play a Souls game with a shield, its doable but it will increase the waiting time longer since that time could've been used to advance the state of whatever fight you are currently doing.
Sad thing is he will never read this since he has gone on record that he doesnt read comments anymore, but it had to be said.
Thanks to whoever took the time to read this hope you had a nice day.
My favorite part of Game Grumps was when Arin died repeated to a Shell Blade in the water temple and ragequit Majora's Mask cuz he couldn't beat Gomess. :)
10:07 20:42 22:50 27:16 28:29 29:41
And yet people accuse him of presenting his opinions as "facts".
+NintendoCapriSun holy shit didn't think id find you here
+NintendoCapriSun hey man I never played a Zelda game except for links awakening and I think its okay but(t) it might be true what he says about the format it could be better with some games like idk say gta is always the same and it sold millions of copies and that is not a bad thing but it might also not be good thing seeing as difference in gameplay is important and that is also what games should do improve the gameplay with new thing but keep the overall feeling of the game the same so yeah give me your idea btw I'm 14
+NintendoCapriSun My issue is more that he sometimes bases his opinions from false information that he provided. Like putting that Lizolof in the wait for an opening thing. They have no way of defending so what was Arin waiting for?
+TehSooper Iloominity If you actually believe the first Zelda is more expansive and explorable, you're out of your mind.
+TehSooper Iloominity If you actually believe the first Zelda is more expansive and explorable, you're out of your mind.
Arin: I hate how modern Zelda grabs you by the hand all the time.
Also Arin: WTF DO I DO!!!!
Because he doesn't want to sit around reading bullshit just to know where to go. If the game can't tell you how to do something purely from intuition, then it's not well designed for an explorative adventure game.
Neilson Truong - If he’s not willing to read the text then it’s still his fault he doesn’t know where to go. If he can’t even do that much maybe he should stick to linear games where he can’t get lost.
@@LucaxCorp Thats his point though. Ocarina of Time is more linear than 'open world'. Most of the time its literally finding an item and using it on a block way to get to another segment of the exact same thing.
If you need to read to progress in an 'open world' game then thats not good.
@@lilkxdude5659 But Ocarina of time never tried or wanted to be an open world game. If it was made to be an open world game then of course it'd fail at that, but that's the point: Ocarina of Time is story focused and linear while games like Breath of the wild give you all the freedom you want. Both are good at what they're doing. If you like them or not is up to personal preference.
I like how this guy tried to make an Egoraptor sucks at videogame meme, but he didn't know he stepped into a fucking warzone
Arin really was like, a very different person back in this era. Its so, unfamiliar now, despite this being the Arin most people knew cause of his animation days.
"You can click that subscribe button, and that'll let you know when mote Sequelitises are coming out."
[Last online: 7 years ago]
Still waiting on that new episode of Sequelitis
Would like an appetizer while your waiting~
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha thats not happening
Yeeeeeeah... No. I'm 96.89% sure that's not gonna happen.
Got any mozzarella sticks?
The guy in the comments I think we know why...
There is so much...god damn waiting for an egoraptor upload
Profile picture twinsies
ThatGuyWithTheFace
Gooty cuz he's too busy with game grumps which I personally don't enjoy at all. I think game grumps is annoying, unfunny, and I can barely sit through one minute of a video. I liked it back when egoraptor did these kinds of videos. But sadly it seems like those days are long gone.
Gooty : savage
Isn't it funny that Arin divided this video from the others in the series by grouping the other three in a playlist called season 1? That means he wanted this to be the start of another season! There might of been more!
Too bad he's lazy
19:06 well, would you look at that Arin. Tears of the Kingdom made it real 🎉
There have been SO many goddamn times playing BotW (and now TotK) where I would think back to this amazing commentary vid and genuinely wonder if they watched Arin's analysis and REALLY took it to heart. Because he is so directly on point with his critique and the Switch Zelda games are such a profound, invigorating, mind-blowing breath of fresh air that recaptured that feeling of eager exploration, rewarded curiosity, and versatile resourcefulness of the OG Zelda.
Hello, I come from the year 2020, it's 13:40 PM, Monday 1, February, And Egoraptor has finally uploaded a new sequelitis.
Yes !!!!
Pretty much
+Thomas Jackson I was just making a little joke about how Sequelitis is like Starfox series, Arin can have his life and I'm ok with it. Geez, man, take it easy.
Oh ok, that "Entitled whiny shits" really made me think you were on a bad mood.
lies you posted this in 2016
as I rewatch this today, I wonder how blissful and liberating Egoraptor might have felt when playing Breath of the Wild - it basically responds to all of his critiques about Ocarina of Time's 'open' world
You should watch the let's play of him playing Breath of the Wild on the Game Grumps channel. He loves it and keeps raving about how cool and fun it is.
thanks so much for the tip! I'll go check it out
that, my dude, was a precious tip! I did not know about game grumps and now I'm hooked watching them talk about Breath of the Wild and enjoying it a lot! thanks so much
juca oliveira a month ago was when u found out about gamegrumps?!he fucking made a video on this channel about it like 4-5 fucken years ago. when it was starting with jontron an now with danny. geez what have u been doing with your life.
haha I know I know, it's just that I hadn't really been following egoraptor! I had come across this sequilitis video long ago and then when I finished BOTW, I remembered this and came to rewatch it! the game grumps are amazing though, and I've been thoroughly enjoying their content since I found out about them
Regardless of Arin's opinions, I love the comedy of this
If there’s a hazard moving in a defined circular pattern and it hits while you’re not paying attention to your surroundings that’s the game’s fault.
Man, it has been 5 years since the last Sequelitis. The one he's working on now must be crazy if it's been 5 years in the making!
Bruh I wish
How....how do I break this to you...
Retro Studio fans be like:
Barry's been doing some good ones on his channel
@@nman625 I felt that
A Link to the Past changed my life as a kid. When I heard a 3D Zelda was on the way for the N64, my 12-year-old imagination exploded into images of mind-blowing cave exploration in an open world.
Arin hit on some important topics in this video, and whether you agree with him or not, he did a fantastic job of analyzing what makes Zelda fun and what possibly takes away from a great experience. Exploring the ideas behind what makes games fun can lead to new ideas, which might just inspire some awesome new games!
holy poop, I love your vids McGroove!
Well said, Smooth. You're an awesome guy and I'm glad you didn't flip any tables after the video ended haha. :D
Aye Smooth! I absolutely think you're right. I agree with most things Arin said, but I still love Ocarina to death. He really did a great job on it and it made me think about a lot of stuff I hadn't payed attention to before
Well said. My favorite game in the series is Twilight Princess. And while I did get frustrated, confused, etc, I still enjoyed the game and what it had to offer. People have their own opinions and that's okay. And they're free to share them, especially if they can explain their train of thought like Arin did. For the same reason Arin doesn't like Ocarina, someone else loves it.
***** Smooth McGroove may have just shared this video on his Google+ page, if he's active there, and his post automatically logged as this "comment." TH-cam has been weird lately about pulling in Google+ posts and displaying them as comments on videos when people share them there. Happens to us all the time.
^CG
Arin they added a goron that helps you fight
the best "oops" sound effect I've ever heard
> Says each enemy is easy to battle
> Is mostly/always near death in each scene
+Eren Jaeger >because he would have had to line up the camera for the capture so that the gameplay footage can show what he's talking about in a clear and understandable example.
of course he wouldn't be playing the game as skillfully as he would if he was just playing for fun. He's focused on showing his point to the audience as clearly as he can.
+Choleric Raven he didn't use a camera to capture the game footage! He just played through the game. It's no secret that arin is awful at video games. He's almost as bad at video games as he is at uploading videos, and man, thats pretty fucking bad.
Choleric Raven Line up the camera? What camera? Also he wasn't talking while recording.
I know, but he would have to find or create an example in the game to fit what he wrote about. And I'm talking about the in game camera, the one that you focus on enemies with Z, and that the player uses to look around. Not the best use of the term.
Just cause he sucks doesn't mean he isn't right. The enemies are easy, the difficulty comes from horrible wait times
If this is truly his opinion, he is going to love Breath of the Wild
***** You totally misread my commet.
***** Sorry but can you read? Is said if this is really what he wants in a 3D Zelda game, he will love Breath of the Wild. A 3D Zelda game with what he says he wants is in it.
***** Umm no. I don't think you understand tone at all. No one is raging.
All that happens was was that i said he would like something based from his opinion. I didn't question his opinion at all.
Smokio You trollin? Lol
***** it hasn't even gone wrong. It started bad when you assumed I said something i didn't
I first played ocarina of time when i was 14. I've been gaming since i was 7 and i can confidently say, besides Minecraft for the memories i have with it, Ocarina of Time is my favourite game and has been for years. Ive since played TP and SS, and currently playing ALTTP, but OOT i still replay to this day with randomizers and such, its so much fun! And has a great story and soundtrack.
Deku Nuts, bombs, boomerang, links epic movement variety, etc... stop waiting and start using tools at your disposal to kill enemies js.
Yeah you can kill Stalfos in like 5 seconds if you don't suck.
@@BananaMana69 But trying is hard!
I may have just stood up and applauded that rant about Skyward Sword.
You're actually taking Arin's gaming-related opinions seriously? After Game Grumps has proven, on hundreds of different occasions, that he's terrible at games? That, for all he complains about "bad game design", whenever a game shows what he believes to be "good game design", he just gets fucking pissy That he's just an impatient twat? That he's just a nostalgiatard?
This is the guy who got lost on Dragon Roost fucking Island, for crying out loud. He complains about games giving you an objective, when HE'S THE PERSON THAT NEEDS THEM THE MOST.
/pointlesslyangryrantover
I know I did.
Daniel Herzig
There is a difference between a good opinion and an opinion fueled completely by autism.
SSGuy
Which is in itself another opinion fueled by subjective force. Put on some diapers, you're leaking.
I kind of don't get all the hate Skyward Sword gets. I have seen people treating it like it is the devils version of Zelda 2. I mean the gameplay were okay, the world design were pretty bad, but the story, characters, bosses and dungeons were much better than other entries in the series.
It’s crazy to look back at this after playing breath of the wild. Almost all of his criticism was addressed
psychomaniac26 Arin is a hack though
Mild Monster no u
its funny cause he even said that in the play through
Almost a decade later
Ikr I was thinking the whole time “well BOTW took care of that” “BOTW solved that”
every now and then i come back to this video and mini series
Watching this as an adult is kinda painful ngl lmfao
I love how he talks about how OoT has so much waiting but never mentions the part where you have to wait the most...
“Mweep... mweep... mweep... mweep...”
I've watched that Big Beluga Whale scoot aside at least 40 times in my life. We can all perfectly hear it just reading your comment.
That part is super weird because it's clearly intentional. You don't make something that is obviously objectively not fun and somehow not notice and leave it in the game accidentally. So ... why? Were they just playing a joke on the player? Maybe they just thought it was funny. It kinda is.
Maybe the designer sketched out the layout and had the king dude sitting in front of the door and after they'd actually designed the character they realised that he wouldn't be able to move quickly and no one considered changing it so that a door just opened up beside him or something.
WHOA ! LOOKING COOL JOKER !
I believe there is a long version of that on youtube
Oh god first thing I thought of, timed it once it was a full 30 seconds
I fell like most of the people in the comments who are raging just have a severe case of the nostalgia boner. The condition where their childhood sucked ass and there was one thing that they held above all else to make it seem like they had a decent childhood. Generally these people can't take criticism and are EXTREMELY biased.
Probably not. When this game was first released it was already considered one of the best games of all time, and it's reviews scores at the time reflected that. It's not as though it was only reviewed by people recently.
You're forgetting the fact that Arin's argument is "I can't read, the game sucks."
@DarkGiga did you even watch the video? Erin's point was that the game tells you how to feel with the dialogue when it really didn't need to. In a game that should've been about exploring and killing monsters you got a game about doing random stupid quest for people and waiting. I agree with him because his argument actually has several valid points that were expressed throughout the entire video. It's the same exact thing that happens to Devil May Cry. In DMC one you had to search around the giant ass map to find weapons and complete puzzles just so you could get into a challenging boss fight. It's more or less the same with DMC 2,3 and 4. After that you get the crap basket known as DMC 5 where the maps aren't open they are just point A to point B the weapons are just given to you and the over all challenge is just missing. Not to mention that there are 3 billion cut scenes that just take forever. The only exploration factor is that you can enter old levels with new weapons and abilities that help you find a few hidden rooms. When it really comes down to it the game isn't nearly as good as its older brothers. It's kinda like how everyone feels about skyward sword.
Wally Szarek Challenge missing in DmC? Have you played it at all? Game gets just as hard as the old games. Especially with the multiple difficulty settings later on. Almost as much if not more than 3. Yes, it was A to B and the weapons were given to you, but you still have to remember all of the combinations and add bonuses to your attacks which i thought was much improved from 4. It's all opinion, just like this video. Though we all have our own input and points that can be valid.
Wally Szarek Also, stop calling it DMC 5. It's a reboot title. Though i doubt it'll get a sequel since it sold terribly and Capcom is in deep shit. Oh well. I enjoyed it. I still need to play the Tomb Raider Reboot and can't wait for Mighty No. 9; basically a Mega Man Reboot.
i love this so much this is the 4th or 5th time ive watched it but everytime it just gets me hooked
12:57 You SEE that shit.
OOOOOOPS
Anyone who has actually played OoT knows where these are.
People come for Arin's opinion to argue it or agree with it.
Me? I'm here for Arin's insanity.
Who's Arin? I only see Egoraptor. Arin would be a nice guest tho
Well, same actually
Some people are here for all three.
Really
The reason I clicked was for the same reason, my guy XD
"click that subscribe button and that will let you know when new sequalitis videos are coming out" best joke of the whole thing 10/10
Yup, it is why I unsubbed a few years back. I was tired of waiting for him to make more, and since then this channel has died.
Really sad, because I enjoy this so much. But there are other channels that do something similar that are a bit better.
zzzhuh well, he's kinda busy with game grumps considering they're making up to 4 videos a day, 2 minimum
idontcare more like 2 a day 4 maximum
Zack Sykes that's literally just rephrasing exactly what I said, genius. "Up to" and "maximum" mean the same thing
Idontcare he doesn't edit the videos he just records them. He just hates animating for some reason now.
Traslation: Ego doesn't like storylines, he just wants to murderhobo around.
Painfully accurate
Want that puzzle solving satisfaction Arin talks about in EVERY freaking room/screen of the game? Cross Code is so freaking crazy good. Would love it if he reviewed that game
I notice that most of arin's complaints seem to be, for the most part, fixed in Breath of the Wild. Open world, free exploration, no nagging companions, Story isn't forcing you to do things in certain orders, No waiting to attack enemies, a real sense of adventure, and a different item mechanic and dungeon mechanic
Edit: Years later, after becoming an actual adult and having a better sense of my own opinions, as well as finally being able to look past nostalgia, I actually agree with Arin a good bit. I’m not with him trashing 3D zelda. But me personally, I like the higher sense of adventure, discovery and freedom that 2D zeldas bring. 3D zelda is great of course. But I see those being better at telling more straightforward, linear stories, rather than being an adventurous explorative experience. But that’s just me
Seems like nintendo has listened to people like arin, and is giving them what they want. I think Arin's gonna love Breath of the Wild
Brandon Sauls GG no re
Brandon Sauls also environment and combat relationship
Brandon Sauls they pointed that out in the first episode of botw
He'll hate it just out of spite. xD
2015: oh arin is just taking his time with the next sequaltis
2016: i bet he's making a 2 parter or a hour long vid
2017:please answer my prayer arin, make the next sequaltis
2018:God is Dead, he has forsaken us for our sin of believing Ocarina of time is better than a link to the past.
Cadaverta 123 I'm from the near future... Sequelitis is dead bro.
2022:oh hey he made that sequeltis
I honestly think it's dead now because of this one. Because I guess apparently the really immature Zelda geeks couldn't handle his opinion of this game.
I remember him telling dan in a not so recent game grumps episode that he wanted to do a sequelitis for BotW so keep your fingers crossed!
+Lightning Shy mean, I don't know why Arin would give a single fuck about the stupid Zelda geeks, look at the video, look at them 250K likes, dude he KNOWS that VASTLY more people like these videos than not. Maybe its because he's doing Star Bomb and goes on tours for that and he's doing grumps (which he also goes on tour for) And he had his youtube red show... I think the guys free time to do sequelitis is non-existent
13:32 The first example of a platform enemy is exactly the same enemy he was complaining about right before that
You don't really expect anything like consistency or sincerity from egoraptor, do you?
@@ElvenRaptor dude. You commented over 100 times on this channel. I don't like Arin either, but have some mercy
@@ElvenRaptor IK I'm a year late but kids in this comment chain STILL simp over him so much that its crazy. He is like a god to them.
@@panthekirb7561 Even though he's been disgraced several times. It's amazing.
the entire reason he made the example in 2d because the issue was the enemy was poorly made in 3d because of perception?
I see now why this is the last sequelitis. Way to drop the ball here.
Oh Arin's gonna love Breath of the Wild
I KNOW RIGHT? when I was watching the trailer and looked at nintendos description I couldnt stop thinking about Arin! I want to know his opinions on it!!!
The bats have eyes, and there are markers on the map. 0/10
And there's no "Bomb Bowling".
Uhm, Keese* have eyes. xD
(Seriously though, what the fuck nintendo,did someone Trademark Bat in 86?
But stamina bar tho.... :/