This is a eureka moment in golf instruction. I have watched hundreds of videos in the past year and this is the only one to show how the knees work with the hips. Brilliant.
This, coupled with almost a throwaway comment he makes in another video to the effect of "keep your feet quiet" has completely changed my swing from unpredictable to completely solid.
I just found your channel yesterday, and between this video and your flattening the downswing plane video, I feel like you and I are spiritually connected. You just had to know that I was suffering these swing defects and you felt the need to put out these videos so I could find them! What great tips and the way you explain and demonstrate the movements is exactly how I needed to learn them! Thank you.
Another fantastic video. I like the clear instructions of JKM. No BS or claiming just do this one move and all your problems are solved! Would love real life lessons off this guy!
You are an amazing find. Been chasing the swing with many online instructors, but this....THIS is the real deal. Nothing superfluous, just good red meat.
I recently discovered JKM's video's and glad I did as his instruction is clear and precise. No bs titles that contain "Game Changer" or "only lesson you'll ever need"
Thank you so much for this video. I have been trying to fix my L knee rotation, or collapse, which effects where my club head ends at the top. I failed a thousand times until I see your video. So grateful! Now I’m using your channel for my entire family. Do you have a video on how to stop slicing?
Jonathan . I must say your presentation is clear, concise and detailed in the key areas without being overly technical . Helps me to relate where my swings could have gone wrong. Thank you.
Jonathan, you have some of the best golf instructional content on the internet. Your instruction speaks to my game more than any other instructor that I have watched. Also, your golf swing is gorgeous!
Well done Jonathan! Your analysis is spot on and is helping my transition to the stack and tilt golf swing. Using your online instruction has helped me lower my handicap from 23 to 15 in just a couple of weeks. My short game still suffering.
Thanks for an this eye opening drill. I fall into the category of allowing my left knee to bend so much in the back swing that it is almost behind the ball. I really appreciate this video and it helps me so much…. I have been looking for a video that concentrates only on knee movement for a long long time… And you have come through once again. Bravo my friend!😎
This is Gold bro. I been watching TH-cam videos of different people since Covid day 1. You are by FAAAR the best online, so easy to follow along. Super dope buddy.
I have tried before , re centering movement restrict the hip rotation,,,most of pros sway in the back swing and covered by lateral movement during transition on the down swing. Good explanation john
Great video, very spot on and clear instructions. However anyone knows why Jonathan havn’t updated for 2 months? I am looking forward to watching another piece
Great ideo as always. I need help with my wrist flippin. I tried some of your routines. Jut still happening. Do you have any videos on helping me on this. Thank you keep.up the great work.
Looks good and thanks for the tips as always. One question - when I try and keep my hips further forward on the backswing I then struggle getting weight on to my back foot, which leads to weaker shots as there’s not as much transfer. Could you cover this in a vid please? 👍
Great video. I’m looking for a base where I can insert the alignment stick. Do you know where I can get a base, similar to the one you used on your video?
The title to this lesson does not do justice to the usefulness of it content. I practiced this lesson yesterday and experience great improvement. It also helped me keep my swing width throughout the swing. Thank you Jonathan!
@Jonathan Kim-Moss Golf - it has been taught for many years to get your weight on the inside of the right heal on the backswing. Are you saying that I need to focus on keeping my weight on my lead leg instead? thanks
Thank you! Another great video, just one question: on the back swing by keeping the hip slightly toward the wall, do we still expect weight shifting to the inside of right foot? Or the weight should be maintained as initial setup?
Good stuff 👍🏻 But I have another question: I have a tendency to, in my followthrough, finish with my upper body way left (behind me at setup). I see this when I video my swing down the line. I think I do this in an effort to post up and face the target (or turn my shoulders further left than target). Do you have any suggestions to finish more like you do here? … facing the target and stopping my followthrough down the target line; or as I see in some better players, actually leaning forward toward the ball at setup (right side bend) Thank, Jonathan 🙏🏻 Keep up the good work.
I recently videoed myself hitting balls at the range and was rather shocked at how much my knees collapse (toward the ground) during my downswing. Being a very tall person, it made me think this might be a symptom of my iron shafts being too short (they are standard length and I know in the past I once used 1" over standard).
Can you make a video about your philosophy on where u aim during a golf swing? I hear all different answer from other good golfers. Some say they aim at the back of the ball, some say they aim 3 inches in front of the ball, some said they focus on the edge of each club into the ball, some said they DONT aim at anything it’s all natural, the club path automatically square into the ball. What is your opinion on this?
Hi Jonathan, I am having problem of coming up over the ball on my downswing resulting in thin shots, especially when I am tired at the end of round of Golf, I try to stay behind the ball on my downswing, but lately I am rushing to my front food quickly and lifting my spine, when I don't do that I hit my irons solid..any drill I can do to make sure I stay consistent on my downswing and make divot over the ball versus topping it Thanks much for your help
Mechanically leg movement in a golf swing is very similar to how in an engine the linear piston motion (hips, feet and legs) is translated into circular motion of the crankshaft (pelvis). The legs are the connecting rods and in a golf swing they start out bent achieve good balance of the body+cantilevered club mass as it dynamically shifts. The initial takeaway movement in a swing is a LATERAL shift of the hips straight back to trigger it. I prefer to use what Steve Bann (Australian coach of Adam Scott) suggested in “Simply Golf - Back to Basics” which is starting at address with front leg a bit more vertical than the back / | not a rigid / \ A frame which is what beginners seem to use by default because they imagine or are told they should not sway the hips because it will cause a loss of balance. That is true, but only if the stance is so narrow that it allows the legs to move past vertical \ \ in the takeaway or the finish / /. Jack Nicklaus in Golf My Way relates his coach Jack Grout’s advice on hip sways: It is OK to sway the hips sideways, but never so much the hips pass the inside of the ankles. The reason being that to have the mechanical leverage needed to counter unbalancing swing force some inwards tilt of both legs towards the axis for rotation shoulders around pelvis and feet of spine is needed. The key to controlling lateral shift of hips and pelvis rotation in the swing is keeping the feet on the ground (or not). If both heels are grounded a lateral shifting “hula” movement parallel to the target line will, like the piston and crankshaft in the engine, automatically rotate the pelvis in a circle, but the heels down limit the travel bio-mechanically to 45° closed and 45° open when the feet are squared to the target line - | | -. That “stuckness” is needed in the takeaway is what helps trigger the radical change in direction of the club head mass and its acceleration which gives it a “free” ride against the force of gravity to the top of the backswing. What most don’t seem to realize is the goals of the backswing are: 1) getting the club shaft into the ideal = parallel with swing line position for a well balanced downswing arc, 2) stretching and twisting the muscles and sinews of the body like rubber bands and torsion bar to power the downswing. I have emulated the swings of many different pro golfers to understand their underlying bio-mechanics and physics. Hogan, Snead, Nelson, Demaret, Jones and most others who started out playing with hickory shafted clubs used a low sweeping outside hands takeaway to prevent the mass in the toe of from twisting the shaft of the club and its face angle during the swing. To accomplish that low sweeping extension of arm and club shaft with minimal twisting of the club face open (having it snap shut unpredictably in the downswing at impact) they MOVED HIPS, SHOULDERS AND HANDS together in the takeaway until hip rotation is forced to stop at 45° closed at which point: 1) the arresting of backwards movement of the club head mass must stop or change direction, doing the latter at the wrists because the pull of the club on the left arm makes it the weakest pivot point in the left lever arm; 2) the back left straightens pushing the right side of the pelvis up and forward and the left side down and back, pushing the front knee down and back; 3) shoulders start to turn past the hips. Nicklaus in the late 60s popularized a new swing style made possible by steel shafted clubs that can bend far more than wood before snapping, which is the swing style which is conventional wisdom today in which the legs are used to limit hip rotation in the backswing starting at the takeaway where the hips are kept stationary and the shoulders and hands turn around them instead of hips, shoulders and hands all moving together. This results is less lateral shifting of the hips at the start of the swing to the point beginners stand frozen like their legs are concrete posts because they take “don’t sway the hips” instruction be some 11th Commandment writ on a stone tablet somewhere. 🤷🏼♂️ As as result most lose any concept of the fluid athletic movement used for things like throwing a ball or chopping wood WHICH USE THE SAME HIPS/SHOULDERS/HANDS TOGETHER ERGONOMICS HOGAN DID. Without any lateral shift of the hips they struggle with swing path, balance and weight transfer. Many compound the balance problem with stances which are too narrow (allowing swaying when their club path pulls them off balance in the takeaway, impact and finish) or can achieve full hip rotation after impact when lifting the back heel allows the hips to rotate again after having been stuck 45° open by the back foot staying flat. Stopping the hips at 45° open in the downswing with a flat back foot, combined with the way SIDEBEND tucks in the right arm elbow bent (for superior mechanical leverage) are both part of the strategy for accelerating the club head faster than the hands are being sweep down. The physics of that action works like a car being accelerated from 0 - 60 then slamming on the brakes and sending the passenger in the seat through the windshield with the lever arm of the club whipping around the hands causing the club head mass to accelerate and rapidly increase F = `1/2 (Mass x Velocity^2) striking force. The significant difference in the powering of the down swing move the modern (Nicklaus) swing style vs. Hogan is that Hogan planted is back foot square and INTENTIONALLY allowed the back leg to go straight to develop a great amount of twisting torque WHICH IS ONLY ESTABLISHED AND FELT WHEN THE BACK LEG IS ALLOWED TO STRAIGHTEN COMPLETELY AND PUSH THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PELVIS FORWARD. In the shoulders first style of Nicklaus far less torque is felt in the back leg with most of the power for the downswing instead being stored by stretching the muscles in the back and shoulders at the top of the swing. That difference is felt in the downswing. Hogan’s coiling of the back leg fires the hips open forcefully when a slight lateral shift to target => caused than bent back front knee \ to straighten | then angle forward / making weight shift automatically no-brainer consistent. The Nicklaus style swing taught today starts with the stretched back and shoulders flinging the shoulders around first, but with the same side bend action Hogan used at the point the shoulders turn and become parallel with the swing line again =. Having done both styles, plus Norman, Snead, Nelson, and Count Yogi I can say that consistently executing the Nicklaus shoulder centric swing is far more difficult to coordinate because there are more moving parts and the parts do not move to the limit of their travel. What made Hogan’s swing so consistent were the actions of the hips locking at 45° closed at the trigger for the club cocking the wrists and the upward path to = parallel at the top and the fact he allowed his back leg to straighten at the top of the back swing, which is easier to do consistently than trying to keep a consistent amount of bend in the back knee. I’ve noticed that several tour pros have gone back to the Hogan style hip/shoulders/hands together takeaway. Rocco Mediate who was coached by Jimmy Ballard changed to that style before the 2008 US Open with Tiger because the Nicklaus style swing had wrecked his back. Tiger had to have spinal fusion after years of using the Nicklaus style and taking the “don’t move the hips in the backswing” thing to the limit. All things considered the Hogan style swing, but with a freely lifted right arm is a better swing model for the average recreational golfer because it is easier Master with limited practice and easier to execute.
That’s fine but if you have lack of hip mobility and flexibility then the knee kick back gives you room too swing into I have to do this and it does control the back swing as well you could say old style swing Johnny Miller, Pavin etc Seve even did this but I see points here too 👍
Interesting. I think age also plays a factor. Restricting knee movement restricts the turning of your hips. A little tension is okay but restricting too much will ultimately reduce the length of your back swing. As you age I believe you need to let the knee give a little so that you can wind your hips a bit. Do you agree Jonathan?
Jonathan my problem is kind of the opposite in that my lead knee keeps pushing toward the target like swaying toward target and no time to post nor turn hips. Any video lesson for this problem?
The way you do the knee movement in the backswing looks like you have very little hip rotation. It reminds me of the old X factor. Is that bad for your back?
Sway is a bad word in golf, but facts are facts. 98% of pro’s measured with GEARS and 100% of current top 10 golfers move sway/away from the target with their pelvis. That is a simple verifiable fact and has been GEARS measured and published by AMG. The pelvis “sway” range away from the target is between 1.2 and 3.5 inches with average just under 2 inches for top pro’s. Now they are re-centering BEFORE the down swing. But truth is the best players pelvis sway away. I recommend AMG data on this - likely Sean and them published a video on it. Most pro’s re-center so early it’s often perceived they move toward the target while never swaying away. Just not true. Love your videos, love your uncanny ability to communicate.
That’s a little bit confusing. A lot of your colleagues recommend to bend the left knee inward a little bit to get more rotation and don’t hurt yourself.
Obviously if you keep your weight 50/50 or even shift some weight to the left in the backswing to keep the left knee from collapsing it will work... But shifting weight even so slighly on left side while in the backswing you really recommend this as the solution to this issue?
Feel and real is different. Players who are used to shifting a large majority of weight into their trail side will feel as if they are keeping more of their weight on their lead side. However, even though they are feeling this, their weight becomes more evenly distributed.
I don’t recall commenting on anything you wrote about the golf swing. I was merely pointing out that there is always some smart ass who thinks they know more than the teaching pro. Did you ever stop and consider that JK Moss may have thought that he didn’t need to state the obvious! Or that he may want to delve into the ground influence in another video. Maybe you should start your own channel and give us all a laugh..
This is a eureka moment in golf instruction. I have watched hundreds of videos in the past year and this is the only one to show how the knees work with the hips. Brilliant.
This, coupled with almost a throwaway comment he makes in another video to the effect of "keep your feet quiet" has completely changed my swing from unpredictable to completely solid.
I just found your channel yesterday, and between this video and your flattening the downswing plane video, I feel like you and I are spiritually connected. You just had to know that I was suffering these swing defects and you felt the need to put out these videos so I could find them!
What great tips and the way you explain and demonstrate the movements is exactly how I needed to learn them! Thank you.
Another fantastic video. I like the clear instructions of JKM. No BS or claiming just do this one move and all your problems are solved! Would love real life lessons off this guy!
Indeed. Very easy to learn from
Me too
You’re the very best teacher on TH-cam. Keep up the great work!
First time I’ve seen this explained like this……..after the billionth golf video I ‘ve watched. Thanks
and that folks is a proper hip turn with no sliding. Sliding is lazy the haps have to turn within a box...one of the best tutorials you will ever see!
You are an amazing find. Been chasing the swing with many online instructors, but this....THIS is the real deal. Nothing superfluous, just good red meat.
Best golf videos on TH-cam. Appreciate your humility. And, your golf swing is beautiful!! Keep up the great work!
Great clear explanation of the knee movement in backswing & downswing. Excellent job Jon!
I recently discovered JKM's video's and glad I did as his instruction is clear and precise. No bs titles that contain "Game Changer" or "only lesson you'll ever need"
Thanks Jonathan, you hit the nail on the head
great drills for helping an avg golfer move effeciently through the swing! Would like to see you play a few holes and some strategy coaching.
Thank you so much for this video. I have been trying to fix my L knee rotation, or collapse, which effects where my club head ends at the top. I failed a thousand times until I see your video. So grateful! Now I’m using your channel for my entire family. Do you have a video on how to stop slicing?
Jonathan . I must say your presentation is clear, concise and detailed in the key areas without being overly technical . Helps me to relate where my swings could have gone wrong. Thank you.
This helped me so much! I’ve always had trouble moving my knees. I cut my score down by 10!
Amazin, most straightforward, concise and informative videos for a healthy golf swing sequence.
Thank you.
Jonathan, you have some of the best golf instructional content on the internet. Your instruction speaks to my game more than any other instructor that I have watched. Also, your golf swing is gorgeous!
Best explanation I have seen yet. Thanks!
Well done Jonathan! Your analysis is spot on and is helping my transition to the stack and tilt golf swing. Using your online instruction has helped me lower my handicap from 23 to 15 in just a couple of weeks. My short game still suffering.
Thanks for an this eye opening drill. I fall into the category of allowing my left knee to bend so much in the back swing that it is almost behind the ball. I really appreciate this video and it helps me so much…. I have been looking for a video that concentrates only on knee movement for a long long time… And you have come through once again. Bravo my friend!😎
ive been watching your videos and went from 90 average to shooting 81 today. thanks so much.
This is a great video! Excited to take this to the range later.
Thanks Johnathan for clearly explaining what this looks like and providing an avenue to correct. I got it now.
Wow, you are a great teacher! Very sophisticated!
You are a good coach, helped me alot, thanks
One of the best and easy to understand instructions. Well done and will definitely following his instruction tactics. Thank you😀
Excellent description of important body movent - thanks
Another awesome video. Your punch drill with this same type of lateral hip movement and extension has transformed my ball striking.
Well done Jonathan!!! So clear explanation!!! Your videos helping me to learn and improve all the time!!! God bless you🙏
Great video. The problems you are highliting apply directly to me. Thanks for the lesson. I will go to work on it right away. Thank you.
Brilliant video well explained. Many thanks for taking the time to post it
Thank you for the great videos as always. Very helpful👍👍👍
Good stuff...Thank you for the excellent explanation.
This is Gold bro. I been watching TH-cam videos of different people since Covid day 1. You are by FAAAR the best online, so easy to follow along. Super dope buddy.
I have tried before , re centering movement restrict the hip rotation,,,most of pros sway in the back swing and covered by lateral movement during transition on the down swing. Good explanation john
Great video and covering topics rarely covered! Great job!
Quality instruction for this and your other videos. Many thanks
I really enjoyed your training advice.
Fantastic insight, thanks for posting
Not sure if I agree with the haircut but gosh JKM's tips have straitened me out on course! Keep the helpful vids coming :)
You are up good at what you do mate ! Thanks for the lesson
Great video, very spot on and clear instructions. However anyone knows why Jonathan havn’t updated for 2 months? I am looking forward to watching another piece
exceptional intelligent instruction - thanks
Great advice. Thanks
Very clear and great visuals
Stumbled on your channel, I think you do a better job than some others out there! Subscribed!
New to this channel excellent fundamentals clearly explained 👍🏴
Great video makes sense thank you
Great video thanks. I appreciate your insight and to the point videos.
Great ideo as always. I need help with my wrist flippin. I tried some of your routines. Jut still happening. Do you have any videos on helping me on this. Thank you keep.up the great work.
Looks good and thanks for the tips as always. One question - when I try and keep my hips further forward on the backswing I then struggle getting weight on to my back foot, which leads to weaker shots as there’s not as much transfer. Could you cover this in a vid please? 👍
great explanation
another banger video youre frickin amazing
Great video. I’m looking for a base where I can insert the alignment stick. Do you know where I can get a base, similar to the one you used on your video?
The title to this lesson does not do justice to the usefulness of it content. I practiced this lesson yesterday and experience great improvement. It also helped me keep my swing width throughout the swing. Thank you Jonathan!
Awsowe so so well explanied!
Thanks J!👍👏🙌
Superb video
@Jonathan Kim-Moss Golf - it has been taught for many years to get your weight on the inside of the right heal on the backswing. Are you saying that I need to focus on keeping my weight on my lead leg instead? thanks
Thank you! Another great video, just one question: on the back swing by keeping the hip slightly toward the wall, do we still expect weight shifting to the inside of right foot? Or the weight should be maintained as initial setup?
great video. how can get your lessons?
Good stuff 👍🏻
But I have another question:
I have a tendency to, in my followthrough, finish with my upper body way left (behind me at setup).
I see this when I video my swing down the line.
I think I do this in an effort to post up and face the target (or turn my shoulders further left than target).
Do you have any suggestions to finish more like you do here? … facing the target and stopping my followthrough down the target line; or as I see in some better players, actually leaning forward toward the ball at setup (right side bend)
Thank, Jonathan 🙏🏻
Keep up the good work.
Great video
Thanks
I recently videoed myself hitting balls at the range and was rather shocked at how much my knees collapse (toward the ground) during my downswing. Being a very tall person, it made me think this might be a symptom of my iron shafts being too short (they are standard length and I know in the past I once used 1" over standard).
Can you make a video about your philosophy on where u aim during a golf swing? I hear all different answer from other good golfers. Some say they aim at the back of the ball, some say they aim 3 inches in front of the ball, some said they focus on the edge of each club into the ball, some said they DONT aim at anything it’s all natural, the club path automatically square into the ball. What is your opinion on this?
I would like to hear what your shot shape tells you about your knee and hip movement
Hi Jonathan, I am having problem of coming up over the ball on my downswing resulting in thin shots, especially when I am tired at the end of round of Golf, I try to stay behind the ball on my downswing, but lately I am rushing to my front food quickly and lifting my spine, when I don't do that I hit my irons solid..any drill I can do to make sure I stay consistent on my downswing and make divot over the ball versus topping it
Thanks much for your help
How do you move laterally towards the target on the backswing and transfer the weight to the right heel during the backswing?
Mechanically leg movement in a golf swing is very similar to how in an engine the linear piston motion (hips, feet and legs) is translated into circular motion of the crankshaft (pelvis). The legs are the connecting rods and in a golf swing they start out bent achieve good balance of the body+cantilevered club mass as it dynamically shifts.
The initial takeaway movement in a swing is a LATERAL shift of the hips straight back to trigger it. I prefer to use what Steve Bann (Australian coach of Adam Scott) suggested in “Simply Golf - Back to Basics” which is starting at address with front leg a bit more vertical than the back / | not a rigid / \ A frame which is what beginners seem to use by default because they imagine or are told they should not sway the hips because it will cause a loss of balance. That is true, but only if the stance is so narrow that it allows the legs to move past vertical \ \ in the takeaway or the finish / /.
Jack Nicklaus in Golf My Way relates his coach Jack Grout’s advice on hip sways: It is OK to sway the hips sideways, but never so much the hips pass the inside of the ankles. The reason being that to have the mechanical leverage needed to counter unbalancing swing force some inwards tilt of both legs towards the axis for rotation shoulders around pelvis and feet of spine is needed.
The key to controlling lateral shift of hips and pelvis rotation in the swing is keeping the feet on the ground (or not). If both heels are grounded a lateral shifting “hula” movement parallel to the target line will, like the piston and crankshaft in the engine, automatically rotate the pelvis in a circle, but the heels down limit the travel bio-mechanically to 45° closed and 45° open when the feet are squared to the target line - | | -.
That “stuckness” is needed in the takeaway is what helps trigger the radical change in direction of the club head mass and its acceleration which gives it a “free” ride against the force of gravity to the top of the backswing. What most don’t seem to realize is the goals of the backswing are: 1) getting the club shaft into the ideal = parallel with swing line position for a well balanced downswing arc, 2) stretching and twisting the muscles and sinews of the body like rubber bands and torsion bar to power the downswing.
I have emulated the swings of many different pro golfers to understand their underlying bio-mechanics and physics.
Hogan, Snead, Nelson, Demaret, Jones and most others who started out playing with hickory shafted clubs used a low sweeping outside hands takeaway to prevent the mass in the toe of from twisting the shaft of the club and its face angle during the swing. To accomplish that low sweeping extension of arm and club shaft with minimal twisting of the club face open (having it snap shut unpredictably in the downswing at impact) they MOVED HIPS, SHOULDERS AND HANDS together in the takeaway until hip rotation is forced to stop at 45° closed at which point: 1) the arresting of backwards movement of the club head mass must stop or change direction, doing the latter at the wrists because the pull of the club on the left arm makes it the weakest pivot point in the left lever arm; 2) the back left straightens pushing the right side of the pelvis up and forward and the left side down and back, pushing the front knee down and back; 3) shoulders start to turn past the hips.
Nicklaus in the late 60s popularized a new swing style made possible by steel shafted clubs that can bend far more than wood before snapping, which is the swing style which is conventional wisdom today in which the legs are used to limit hip rotation in the backswing starting at the takeaway where the hips are kept stationary and the shoulders and hands turn around them instead of hips, shoulders and hands all moving together. This results is less lateral shifting of the hips at the start of the swing to the point beginners stand frozen like their legs are concrete posts because they take “don’t sway the hips” instruction be some 11th Commandment writ on a stone tablet somewhere. 🤷🏼♂️ As as result most lose any concept of the fluid athletic movement used for things like throwing a ball or chopping wood WHICH USE THE SAME HIPS/SHOULDERS/HANDS TOGETHER ERGONOMICS HOGAN DID. Without any lateral shift of the hips they struggle with swing path, balance and weight transfer. Many compound the balance problem with stances which are too narrow (allowing swaying when their club path pulls them off balance in the takeaway, impact and finish) or can achieve full hip rotation after impact when lifting the back heel allows the hips to rotate again after having been stuck 45° open by the back foot staying flat.
Stopping the hips at 45° open in the downswing with a flat back foot, combined with the way SIDEBEND tucks in the right arm elbow bent (for superior mechanical leverage) are both part of the strategy for accelerating the club head faster than the hands are being sweep down. The physics of that action works like a car being accelerated from 0 - 60 then slamming on the brakes and sending the passenger in the seat through the windshield with the lever arm of the club whipping around the hands causing the club head mass to accelerate and rapidly increase F = `1/2 (Mass x Velocity^2) striking force.
The significant difference in the powering of the down swing move the modern (Nicklaus) swing style vs. Hogan is that Hogan planted is back foot square and INTENTIONALLY allowed the back leg to go straight to develop a great amount of twisting torque WHICH IS ONLY ESTABLISHED AND FELT WHEN THE BACK LEG IS ALLOWED TO STRAIGHTEN COMPLETELY AND PUSH THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PELVIS FORWARD. In the shoulders first style of Nicklaus far less torque is felt in the back leg with most of the power for the downswing instead being stored by stretching the muscles in the back and shoulders at the top of the swing. That difference is felt in the downswing.
Hogan’s coiling of the back leg fires the hips open forcefully when a slight lateral shift to target => caused than bent back front knee \ to straighten | then angle forward / making weight shift automatically no-brainer consistent.
The Nicklaus style swing taught today starts with the stretched back and shoulders flinging the shoulders around first, but with the same side bend action Hogan used at the point the shoulders turn and become parallel with the swing line again =.
Having done both styles, plus Norman, Snead, Nelson, and Count Yogi I can say that consistently executing the Nicklaus shoulder centric swing is far more difficult to coordinate because there are more moving parts and the parts do not move to the limit of their travel. What made Hogan’s swing so consistent were the actions of the hips locking at 45° closed at the trigger for the club cocking the wrists and the upward path to = parallel at the top and the fact he allowed his back leg to straighten at the top of the back swing, which is easier to do consistently than trying to keep a consistent amount of bend in the back knee.
I’ve noticed that several tour pros have gone back to the Hogan style hip/shoulders/hands together takeaway. Rocco Mediate who was coached by Jimmy Ballard changed to that style before the 2008 US Open with Tiger because the Nicklaus style swing had wrecked his back. Tiger had to have spinal fusion after years of using the Nicklaus style and taking the “don’t move the hips in the backswing” thing to the limit.
All things considered the Hogan style swing, but with a freely lifted right arm is a better swing model for the average recreational golfer because it is easier Master with limited practice and easier to execute.
Hi jkm.. i want to ask.. where our eyes to look at the ball? where to look at? Pls answer..
That’s fine but if you have lack of hip mobility and flexibility then the knee kick back gives you room too swing into I have to do this and it does control the back swing as well you could say old style swing Johnny Miller, Pavin etc Seve even did this but I see points here too 👍
How do you keep pressure on lead side and transfer weight to right side? My left knee does collapse
Hi Jonathan. How do I join your online courses?
WOW, you're an interesting teacher. Hogan did it entirely different and so did Moe Norman.😹
some golf coach mentioned as re centering movement instead of lateral motion. is it?
Is this more for younger flexible players? Or can older less flexible players apply your teaching
is the hip and knee movement the same for the driver?
Interesting. I think age also plays a factor. Restricting knee movement restricts the turning of your hips. A little tension is okay but restricting too much will ultimately reduce the length of your back swing. As you age I believe you need to let the knee give a little so that you can wind your hips a bit. Do you agree Jonathan?
I believe you can accomplish this with lifting the lead heel a bit. allowing to still restrict movement in the knee but free your hips up ?
Jonathan my problem is kind of the opposite in that my lead knee keeps pushing toward the target like swaying toward target and no time to post nor turn hips. Any video lesson for this problem?
Good video idea
You are amazing
This shit is gold Jonathan !
Kim:
You just pointed out my mistake on the left knee when I do the back swing.
Tony
조나타 김 모스 잘보고 갑니다
greated,
Have the opposite problem: front knee too flexed at impact
Good instruction. Now I just have to slam myself into a wall the next time I practice this movement - making sure my head stays back.
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Gold
Combine this video with proper shaft lean at address, and you are golden.
The way you do the knee movement in the backswing looks like you have very little hip rotation. It reminds me of the old X factor. Is that bad for your back?
Sway is a bad word in golf, but facts are facts. 98% of pro’s measured with GEARS and 100% of current top 10 golfers move sway/away from the target with their pelvis. That is a simple verifiable fact and has been GEARS measured and published by AMG. The pelvis “sway” range away from the target is between 1.2 and 3.5 inches with average just under 2 inches for top pro’s. Now they are re-centering BEFORE the down swing. But truth is the best players pelvis sway away. I recommend AMG data on this - likely Sean and them published a video on it. Most pro’s re-center so early it’s often perceived they move toward the target while never swaying away. Just not true. Love your videos, love your uncanny ability to communicate.
everyone is told to shift their weight. one of the biggest misconceptions in the swing. It can cause so many problems in the takeaway
I wish you spend more time explaining how to do it then how not to do it
You should be on the PGA tour
That’s a little bit confusing. A
lot of your colleagues recommend to bend the left knee inward a little bit to get more rotation and don’t hurt yourself.
Obviously if you keep your weight 50/50 or even shift some weight to the left in the backswing to keep the left knee from collapsing it will work... But shifting weight even so slighly on left side while in the backswing you really recommend this as the solution to this issue?
Feel and real is different. Players who are used to shifting a large majority of weight into their trail side will feel as if they are keeping more of their weight on their lead side. However, even though they are feeling this, their weight becomes more evenly distributed.
@@JKMGolf yes you right, thanks for the answer.
Wrong advice. You cannot move your hips without ground influence via the feet and legs first.
There’s always one smart ass!
@@markandoniou3512 You obviously have no hip turn, or ever felt the correct powerful move
I don’t recall commenting on anything you wrote about the golf swing.
I was merely pointing out that there is always some smart ass who thinks they know more than the teaching pro.
Did you ever stop and consider that JK Moss may have thought that he didn’t need to state the obvious! Or that he may want to delve into the ground influence in another video.
Maybe you should start your own channel and give us all a laugh..
great explanation
Great tip, thanks