🚥The Z shows what can be done with a factory forced induction setup with a simple tune …now can you make crazy power with the mustang adding a supercharger or even a turbo setup hell yeah but it’s more involved and the average owner isn’t doing all of that …Good video as always Sam 🤘🏽😎🤘🏽
Just buy an m240i or Supra with the b58 and be done with all that nonsense. Mine made ~530 hp (432 awhp on a Mustang dyno) with just a silly box and e30. 0-60 in 3.3 and 1/4 in 11.2 on the street.
@@Bimmer_Billthis is a Nissan vs mustang video bmw fanboy but if you wanna take it there what bmw is winning top spots at TX2k I’ve seen plenty of Nissan products in the winners circle there 😂
@@AlexWalkerjrNissan products? Since when are we talking about $200k+ built GTR’s? Do you know how much it costs to make a Nissan go really fast? A built gtr engine costs more that then entire Z car by far. Sometimes near $100k just for an engine! Very very few people are gonna do that including YOU, so stick with relevance here. What most people do is either keep it stock or do minor mods. I mean do you want to include Nissans lemans car from 1990 too in your argument and then I counter with F1 😂? We’re talking about the latest generation Z and other cars in its class which includes Mustang, Camaro, m240i, Supra, etc. I’m sorry, it’s just slow compared to the cars with the b58. A stock yes stock m240i runs 3.7 to 60 and a little faster in the 1/4. If you’re a Nissan fanboy and buy a z no shame, but let’s be honest it’s a slower car. 🤷♂️
Twin turbo with lots of aftermarket parts against a natural aspirated stock Mustang. Not competitive and not in the same class. Now add a Supercharger to the Mustang or turbos Nissan would lose. Stock for Stock the Nissan also loses. Not excuses it's facts. Like taken a kindergarten kid racing against an high school kid. That's what this is.
This is a Bias channel against Ford's. He wasn't even smashing the Mustangs pedal. He was sand bagging the Mustang. Next tuned aftermarket twin Turbo vs a Stock natural aspirated V8. Not in the same class.
You can def make 460 on 93 with those mods. If you follow the Z scene youll know AMS and SOHO alone have tuned plenty of new Zs to that. SonicTuned is no different. Now reaching 500 youll start getting into flex fuel, pumps, etc.
@@tepelkuawho’s to say that’s what’s really done to the car. That thing was definitely pulling harder than 480bhp. Definitely more like 480 to the wheels
@@alexandredufour7358 the simple fact is that you can turn up boost in addition to timing on a turbocharged car (hence much larger gains vs stock). You can only increase timing on a NA motor. I believe the Z here has a 93 tune, with e30 it’s another ~30whp.
I'm not trying to criticize but I didn't hear the Mustang revving hard but that's just my opinion. Didn't sound like he was aggressively trying to win.
@@2seep You can still not drive an auto well. He didn't launch the Mustang well. It clearly wouldn't have won still as the Z was tuned to likely more than 480 hp and is a couple hundred lbs less weight as well.
Everybody on here crying about why do this video. Sam is showing you how much faster the Z can be against a quick competitor. It is a very likely stoplight scenario. I like the tuned vs stock for comparison reasons. Great video!
@@p.smallz6168 agreed. And the Z takes a lot of hate but the aftermarket/tuning scene has exploded for it and everyone is determined to keep it relevant. It’s really cool to see.
Turbo car vs. na car. And the turbo. Car is. Modded and tuned I would hope it will be faster. Now if the mustang gt was turbo on 7 psi. Different story
This comment is usually what the butt hurt person says about the outcome. I agree the mustang being a 5.0L V8 has more potential. It really just another example of a 40K OEM modern turbo 6 cylinder can easily with little money and a tune make 500whp/500Wtq. I see a 16 mustangs a day non have a turbo and 90% will never go through the money or hassle of bolting on superchargers etc. I personally like the NA mustang more.
@@thibs8801 This isn't true at all. NA engines, including the coyote have a very peaky power band by comparison. Boosted engines typically carry a flatter power band, making more power earlier on and maintain power throughout the rev range, gear after gear. 500bhp @ 6000rpm is very different than 500bhp @ 3000rpm in the real world.
@@xtminxthat’s not true. What you said only applies to boosted engines with tiny turbos. The z makes 480hp at 5k rpm, after that it dips all the way down to 430 by 7k rpm, and torque falls 200lbft of torque by 7k rpm. Upgrade the turbos and you’ll keep that torque up top and therefore have more hp at 7k rpm.
Um it's legitimate, lol. Good runs, im sure my s550 would have been closer and its a manual. Need to hold the correct gear for the 10 speed. Imagine if you had a low boosted s650 it be a good race
Oh mustang boys you got the GTD coming right? Hold up wait a mustang really needs more than 800hp to beat a 520hp GT3 RS Porsche.... shame...shame... or should i say lame...lame. funny how a mustang needs way more power than other manufacturers sports car to compete with them. If this was compared to boxing the mustang would have 4 arms and still wouldnt be able to defeat Ali with 2. Funny how people dont know how to compare these days its apples to watermelons nowadays. Best price sells performance these days, not performance by horsepower numbers.
To all the stang fanboys and bmw fanboys look. The Z slower than the m240i where in the drag by what a hear, and traps much higher than the m240i theyve all been dynoed well north of the 400hp mark. Yet still m240i is a 12.1 sec car at 113mph trap m340i is a 12.3 sec car at 112mph trap supra is a 12.1 sec car at 117mph, bear in mind these cars are on michelins vs the same on dunlops lesser grade tyres, and the Z actually made 400hp crank on the dyno stock. Its 12.3 sec car at 116mph. And the Z has also been tested in japan earlier this year stock with the 155mph limiter removed and it hit a 186mph max speed. Go see for yourself. These drag times have been all set by Hagerty, and check best motoring for the top speed run. The supra was also tested and hit a 183mph top speed stock. Id say the supra being much lighter of its other b58 sibblings is the most capable has a much superior top speed than them. Yet it still couldnt trap higher than the Z. Given the Z is slower on track than the supra. I highly doubt those underrated power wise bmws trap more than 175mph. So again because u say b58 make more power easily, it aint no more capable or stronger engine than the vr30, it appears though because BMW lies big time about their hp numbers that is why. So obviously of you making more power than the other car aint you suppose to be faster. But just comes to show how capable the Z is. Time will prove even more wait n see when the Z start making big numbers. After the quarter the Z will smash both bmw 240 an 340i sibblings sorry. I would love to see a one mile drag between both cars or a top speed run with limiters removed from all cars lets see whos more capable. For the record lets all be reminded the vr30 was birth child of the vr38 stuff of mythical status. A stock 07-10 GTR r35 480hp stock tested by gtboard hits 197.5mph or 318kmh on the autobahn with traffic at night. See for yourselfth-cam.com/video/qGGPhywecSk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=oJPYRbZonWJSh_CT. No production bmw much less ford comes even close to that number in under 480hp range. Talk about capabilities. For mustang boys, the z on same tyres as you yeah even tuned its still makes same 480hp ur mustang makes, and literally destroys it, again yeah its tuned, but thats talking same hp. Yeah u can tune your stang 800hp or more. So what if the Z has 800hp too, who says the vr30 cant make that, theyve already got a 1000hp made by ams. What would happen to the stang. At the end of day Z with same power eats mustangs all day no competition, different league of performance my friend. What is the top speed of a 480hp mustang stock i wonder. Right. Forget 0-60 an quarter mile aint everything, lets see a top speed run with the stang and stock Z both cars limiters removed 2 mile runway, lets see how far your mustang runs before it runs out of breath.
I love all these videos. You guys do a great job. As an owner of a 2024 Nissan Z with a 6 speed manual and new Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires, I'd love to know which exhaust this Z was using. Sounds great!
You can't beat a tuned turbocharged car. The torque comes in and shoves you in the back, It's probably got 100 lb ft more than the stang at the same RPM. No chance for a heavy car like the stang. Needs to lose 200 lbs and have a shorter gearing or higher final drive ratio.
@@Freddy_Confettithen add e85 on the z. For the mustang you need cold air intakes, exhaust, headers,flex fuel, and a tune. And it’ll still be slower than an e85 tuned z.
@@JDeezers king of Transgender little boy Nissan is the king 👑! Don’t cry 😭 Toyota give u Knock off zupra no not mk4 real Supra 2jz just like all Toyota Vehicle are half ass now Plus it stand chance with this Z shity ass half ass z4!
Oh its a nissan.. why because they dont expensive suvs, sedans, gran coupes like your bmws, before you talk smack get yall facks right goofs, look back at history, when Nissan was making straight sixes, bmw and toyots was living in its shadow, dont even talk about motorsports wins, bmw and toyota you could conjoined them back them and cut the Nissans victories by more than half and still out right come out on top with the Win. Rb greatest straight six of all time, and why BMW is the greatest straight six of the present because no one else makes them. Only now one manufacturer here an there puts one in one of their vehicle. So how can you not have the best on offer if you have no one else making them. Tell me what new bmw has created such an impact that it sent everyone back to the drawing board? None... which Bmw from back mid 2000s can still be compared even though not faster than most supercars nowadays (GTR) can be compared? None. It would be like comparing a handicap person in a wheelchair to an actual car hah. Bmw is not more capable than nissan sorry, has not achieved feats that nissan has in motorsports or road cars. They may be classed as a more premium brand than Nissan, because their s rich person car brand, but certaintly aint no more capable or have more potential than nissan performance wise apples to apples. When the R36 GTR launches it will remind all you BMW fanboys of where your place in the automotive world stands. As yall watch in awe as it raises the performance bar in the automotive world again. All manufacturers nemesis will be reborn once again. Until then enjoy your b58s and s58s while they last ladies an gentlemen.
This video is fake go look at other test drive videos and the mustang smokes the Z lol 😂 u guys love a fake pipe dream video when its a fact the mustang on paper and when both drivers are pushing the cars too max rpm or peak power shifts mustang wins or should i say muscle wins evertime 😢
Forget his driving skills (thats up for debate) but 75% of his videos are schechy. Either races are rigged or the drivers he brings in lie considerably about their power numbers, which aren't vetted by this channel.
What gear is he starting on the mustang? Does he know that engine loves rpms? It sounded like forever to rev into the next shift when means he starts like 3rd/4th.
Even if you had a Mustang that was tuned you’re never going to get the same performance from tuning a NA engine as you can from Tuning a boosted engine. If you’re willing to add boost to the Mustang then the Z wouldn’t have a chance . The only issue with that is the average car person might add a tune with some bolt ons whereas it’s going t9 take a true car enthusiast with racing goals to boost the Mustang.
Well a tuned e85 s550 makes around 480-520 depending on the intake manifold. The mustangs are known for giving the supra a run for their money tuned. This is a silly comparison. Upgraded tire and tuned vs stock tire 😂😂 mustang.
They’re tryna mislead people clearly the title said tuned not modded and that car is clear modded I work at a car dealer and have drove that car plenty of times
The new stang added power but also added weight. Dang with a simple FBO and tune that Z is bus lengths in front of it. In my opinion the stang is overhyped.
That Z is moving that's for sure. Strange. I have a 19 mustang gt 10speed and completely stock on stock tires in hot humid FL my best was 11.86 at 119. You should be closer to 12 flat to 12.1 Now with my current mods stock tune, Roush cold air, corsa extreme active cat back exhaust, full Steeda race suspension with adjustable coil overs springs, tubular K member, irs bracing and bushings, irs lock out, stop the hop kit, DSS drive shaft, Steeda trident lite wheels, carbon fiber hood and trunk, rear seat delete. On 305 drag radials with ok DA it runs consistent 10.9 at 126. Next on my list I'm going to get a Lund E85 tune and kooks long tubes and should be down to 10.3- 10.5 at 130s.
These Nissan always outperform the American v8 Chevy and Ford. You pretty much have to mod the v8 until you can only track drive it to compete with the Nissan... With the Nissan you can drive it to the track compete and drive back home... Your camero or mustang better get trailer in with your quarter ton pick up😅
Let me rephrase for you. The Nissan had to mod in order to beat the Mustang. As far as a road course goes, the Camaro will run circles around both of these cars.
@@gtrance3567 if you go back to the 80s the zcar smoked the same level stang & maro ...up to today from what I saw the same level maro gets smoked by the stang and this stang just got handled by the z ... With the same amount of tunes they need to do a remake and compare but if I'm not mistaken with no tunes the less hp z car still dominate... the track is a different factor you have to look at driver skill ect...
@@302Mustang13 😃 I guess if we go out and drop 2 million on a mark iv gt 500 it will make ford look like something against the gtr nizmo 😆 a 200k car if tuned dominates all vehicles in automotive history!
@@Rdizil-ox1ye yet you all keep saying you have to tune it to be heros. Stock vs stock is the basic and obviously you have no clue what a modded Mustang or Camaro can do and drive to the track as well.
Hahaha he took off before you, and u left soft , brotha you hate the fact 10speeds beating everything, your not starting at the top of your gear, your starting low, its like your trying to loose
Poeple were ready to shit on the Z if the mustang would have won lol.5.0 v8 against a small 3.0 v6,one is heavier one is lighter...and it goes on.The faster car won today,that is all.Both are great cars,we should just appreciate ICE cars for what they are today.
It's not about being a fanboi. It's understanding N/A vs forced induction and there's not a Z on the planet powered by a prepped oe Z engine running 6.2s @ nearly 230 mph. But boosted Coyotes have. In ANY Apples to apples comparison, the Coyote will win in a drag race, every time. How bout this ? Take the huffer off the Z and run it against the NA Coyote and that Z would be a turd.
The Love of Ford is that they give you this great performance STOCK. Where are all the tuned Mustangs well over 500 horsepower? Where is the DarkHorse??? Darkhorse Tuned? .....come on Sam literally finding different mods to the same 2 cars? Nismo and Hyundai. And you'll find as many better versions as you can to race flat out stock Fords? Lol.....clever lol
Personally, I'm taking the Z. Looks better and on top of that, the bolt ons net better power than bolt ons with the Mustang. If you want big power from the Ford, you need boost or nitrous. The Z with an intercooler, E85 it would make over 500 easy. Upgrade the turbos if the internals can handle it and itll do 600++. Mustang needs 8k worth of parts not including labor and tuning to match what the Z could do at a fraction of that cost. But, and this is the big but, those Mustangs with boost make BIG numbers. If the Z doesnt have internals for 8-900, the Mustang would win the power adder game.
The one thing as a car Enthusiast that you can take from this video is that for the price of the Nissan you can still get a 2018 through 2023 Mustang and you can easily make 500 wheel with bolt ons and it's going to be a lot faster than the Nissan for under the MSRP that dealers are asking for that z
@@J.Nev. That's how the race should've been done Stock vs Stock, I don't see the point putting a Tuned car vs Stock car, Go get a FBO Gen 3 Mustang and put it against this Nissan and see what happens, that would be a good race.
How is this surprising to anyone? And to the channel, how is this the least bit surprising? I’m pretty sure you ran a GT vs a Z a few weeks back and the Z beat the FIVE oh. Everyone in the comm was was clamoring for a driver mod…. So, according to that race, how does this surprise you at all? You seem so surprised. To me, it’s sincerely disingenuous…. 80 HP is 20% of 400(Z stock HP#) Let’s reverse it. .20% x 486 = 97. 97 + 486 = 583 583 > 400 The fact that you had a stock Z beating a stock GT a few weeks back on your channel makes you somewhat incredible tbh with you A stock Z is not going to beat a stock GT. Out the gate. Stock for stock as the manufacturers intended Since I don’t buy the results if that race one bit, this race means nothing….
The coyote engine doesn’t really do much when tuned. It’s big thing is that it loves boost. Even with bigger turbos that Z has no shot against a supercharged Mustang or turbo Mustang
It’s a very interesting terrain you’d stepped in with that video. We always see various tuned sport cars with well known mods and HP/TQ figures but seldom can verify what those mods represent in real life! The best way is exactly what you did: the tuned car with the mods and performance numbers description vs a stock very familiar sport car (that’s even more exciting than to compare with the same model but stock). Now I’m curious to see how that tuned Z would go against let’s say a stock C7 Corvette Stingray🤩
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Thank you
@@SamCarLegionyour are a terrible driver and your voice is annoying
🚥The Z shows what can be done with a factory forced induction setup with a simple tune …now can you make crazy power with the mustang adding a supercharger or even a turbo setup hell yeah but it’s more involved and the average owner isn’t doing all of that …Good video as always Sam 🤘🏽😎🤘🏽
Yeah bro totally agree…forced induction is always gonna have the upper hand VS NA setups just because it’s so damn easy to just turn up the boost 💥
Vr30 gapping dat crowd killing mustang guys cope 😂
Just buy an m240i or Supra with the b58 and be done with all that nonsense. Mine made ~530 hp (432 awhp on a Mustang dyno) with just a silly box and e30. 0-60 in 3.3 and 1/4 in 11.2 on the street.
@@Bimmer_Billthis is a Nissan vs mustang video bmw fanboy but if you wanna take it there what bmw is winning top spots at TX2k I’ve seen plenty of Nissan products in the winners circle there 😂
@@AlexWalkerjrNissan products? Since when are we talking about $200k+ built GTR’s? Do you know how much it costs to make a Nissan go really fast? A built gtr engine costs more that then entire Z car by far. Sometimes near $100k just for an engine! Very very few people are gonna do that including YOU, so stick with relevance here. What most people do is either keep it stock or do minor mods.
I mean do you want to include Nissans lemans car from 1990 too in your argument and then I counter with F1 😂? We’re talking about the latest generation Z and other cars in its class which includes Mustang, Camaro, m240i, Supra, etc. I’m sorry, it’s just slow compared to the cars with the b58. A stock yes stock m240i runs 3.7 to 60 and a little faster in the 1/4. If you’re a Nissan fanboy and buy a z no shame, but let’s be honest it’s a slower car. 🤷♂️
did you have any of the ford nannies turned off? didn"t sound like it motor was bogging and not revving out
This dude just don’t like mustangs
My name is Sam, and I can’t even drive even automatic transmission.
My mane is Subarass and I am hurt 😂😂😂 dude go f yourself
I DON'T THINK JEFF GORDON COULD GET A GT UNDER 12 SECONS LOL
How many evens in a evens in a sentence buddy😂😂😂😂sound hella mad in the comments cause the same horsepower z beats the mustang
that coyote does not sound like it's winding out.this looks rigged to me.
AWE EXCUSES FOR STAANG GETTING SMOKED!!!!!
LOL
Same
Twin turbo with lots of aftermarket parts against a natural aspirated stock Mustang. Not competitive and not in the same class. Now add a Supercharger to the Mustang or turbos Nissan would lose. Stock for Stock the Nissan also loses. Not excuses it's facts. Like taken a kindergarten kid racing against an high school kid. That's what this is.
I feel like Nissan knew its people would immediately change the suspension and tire and exhaust set up. That’s why they went cheap on it
This is a Bias channel against Ford's. He wasn't even smashing the Mustangs pedal. He was sand bagging the Mustang. Next tuned aftermarket twin Turbo vs a Stock natural aspirated V8. Not in the same class.
the vr30 with intake, downpipe and catback gained only 80hp? More like 100+ haha they make roughly 450 whp on a safe tune on 93, imagine e85, e50, e30
My Q60 Red Sport is making 475 with simple mods and a tune..crazy!
@@GiotheGhreat yeah i have a regular silver sport and its making 400whp+ on a jb4 and exhaust, intake, its surprise alot of car lol
Z is probably making 480 wheel hp....that thing is pulling hard.
Nope it can’t be over 460 and with those modes I’ll say 440
You can def make 460 on 93 with those mods. If you follow the Z scene youll know AMS and SOHO alone have tuned plenty of new Zs to that. SonicTuned is no different. Now reaching 500 youll start getting into flex fuel, pumps, etc.
@@tepelkuawho’s to say that’s what’s really done to the car. That thing was definitely pulling harder than 480bhp. Definitely more like 480 to the wheels
that engine loves going forward bro, i swear
Glad I didn’t have to settle for American made!
Now tune the mustang and run it back
Um you cant tune the 650.
@@SoloDolo315 Would be same result. Mustang is NA not forced induction barely any power add with tune.
My 5.0 f150 went from 365 whp to 455 whp with an e85 tune air intake and full exhaust line 😂 you talking smack
@@alexandredufour7358 the simple fact is that you can turn up boost in addition to timing on a turbocharged car (hence much larger gains vs stock). You can only increase timing on a NA motor. I believe the Z here has a 93 tune, with e30 it’s another ~30whp.
AWE SOMEONE FEELINGS HURT BECAUSE DA STANG GETS ROASTED LIKE IT DOES IN REAL WORLD BY Z'S AND SUPRAS THE REAL MUSLE CARS!!!!!!!!!
This is a joke, right? Do you know how many cars will smoke this Z? Get real
YEAH BUT YOUR COROLLA WON'T!LOL
Lol mod for mod vr30 beats b58 coyotes dn any car till boost or upgraded turbos but b58 needs built trans 😭
Dont sleep on the vr30 lol
There's alot cars that will out run any car you have. Z is faster with the tune. Period.
@@scottsawyer1218 and there are a LOT of cars that drive much better than this rehashed junk
Do a Trd Camry vs Dodge charger Gt vs Honda Accord Sport 2.0t need it asap
Never cheap out and just buy lowering springs.
Get better coilovers. It makes a world of a difference having the tunability.
Sam did you have advanced track off and in drag mode or track mode?
Sam can't drive at all😂
Sam just cant drive...its a fact
That’s true when he drives manuals. But it’s a 10 speed. There is nothing you can possible do wrong.
Both are automatic 🤦
I'm not trying to criticize but I didn't hear the Mustang revving hard but that's just my opinion. Didn't sound like he was aggressively trying to win.
@@2seep You can still not drive an auto well. He didn't launch the Mustang well. It clearly wouldn't have won still as the Z was tuned to likely more than 480 hp and is a couple hundred lbs less weight as well.
Everybody on here crying about why do this video. Sam is showing you how much faster the Z can be against a quick competitor. It is a very likely stoplight scenario. I like the tuned vs stock for comparison reasons. Great video!
Agreed
@@p.smallz6168 agreed. And the Z takes a lot of hate but the aftermarket/tuning scene has exploded for it and everyone is determined to keep it relevant. It’s really cool to see.
I figured that modded Z had it at the beginning of the video based on power to weight but didn't expect him to gap you so much on rolling & dig.
my stone stock performance pack 18 A10 went 11.81 119.6 mph ..Sam you need to learn how to drive these cars !!!
Theres a thing called density altitude. Google it.
@@NAZTYPONY007 my mk5 did same! Stock! Drag strip 11.80! He doesn’t know how to drive! Yess all stock with good weather of course!
That could be a difference of DA
@@bman1668 no it didn't stop lying
No it didn't stop making up lies on TH-cam I gapped one of those things with a 2006 lexus gs450h 😂
Lunch at Gapplebees
Unexpected? Cmon man.. that was totally expected.
TT, modded and tuned vehicle vs a factory stock NA one . Crazy cause the mustang still looks way better lol
They acted as usual, as if they knew nothing about cars LOL, even the mustang tune would lose all the races LOL
Mustangs suck really bad.
The new ones are not tunable. The older gen are not touchable on e85, not by a hellcat, ZL1 or corvette.
I like apples to apples.
Turbo car vs. na car. And the turbo. Car is. Modded and tuned I would hope it will be faster. Now if the mustang gt was turbo on 7 psi. Different story
@@Mmb0927
Literally
1 bhp is 1 bhp, turbo or NA ...😂
This comment is usually what the butt hurt person says about the outcome. I agree the mustang being a 5.0L V8 has more potential. It really just another example of a 40K OEM modern turbo 6 cylinder can easily with little money and a tune make 500whp/500Wtq. I see a 16 mustangs a day non have a turbo and 90% will never go through the money or hassle of bolting on superchargers etc. I personally like the NA mustang more.
@@thibs8801 This isn't true at all. NA engines, including the coyote have a very peaky power band by comparison. Boosted engines typically carry a flatter power band, making more power earlier on and maintain power throughout the rev range, gear after gear. 500bhp @ 6000rpm is very different than 500bhp @ 3000rpm in the real world.
@@xtminxthat’s not true. What you said only applies to boosted engines with tiny turbos. The z makes 480hp at 5k rpm, after that it dips all the way down to 430 by 7k rpm, and torque falls 200lbft of torque by 7k rpm. Upgrade the turbos and you’ll keep that torque up top and therefore have more hp at 7k rpm.
Um it's legitimate, lol. Good runs, im sure my s550 would have been closer and its a manual. Need to hold the correct gear for the 10 speed. Imagine if you had a low boosted s650 it be a good race
Oh mustang boys you got the GTD coming right? Hold up wait a mustang really needs more than 800hp to beat a 520hp GT3 RS Porsche.... shame...shame... or should i say lame...lame. funny how a mustang needs way more power than other manufacturers sports car to compete with them. If this was compared to boxing the mustang would have 4 arms and still wouldnt be able to defeat Ali with 2.
Funny how people dont know how to compare these days its apples to watermelons nowadays. Best price sells performance these days, not performance by horsepower numbers.
Love that plate on the z 😂😂😂
Sam if you read this, can you get a Mustang performance pack with 3.55 gears/ 10 speed and decent tires vs stock nissan z nismo.
This is BS. You can tell what cars this dude likes. He never read lines the Mustangs. BS turo the Mustang. Duh
i beat mustang gt with my stock q50 redsport so that Z tuned it's a massive difference even if the numbers on paper are similar
And I have absoluty CRUSHED q50 stock for stock with my EIGHT YEAR OLD 90,000 mile GT350, ripped the headlights out of it.
To all the stang fanboys and bmw fanboys look.
The Z slower than the m240i where in the drag by what a hear, and traps much higher than the m240i theyve all been dynoed well north of the 400hp mark. Yet still m240i is a 12.1 sec car at 113mph trap m340i is a 12.3 sec car at 112mph trap supra is a 12.1 sec car at 117mph, bear in mind these cars are on michelins vs the same on dunlops lesser grade tyres, and the Z actually made 400hp crank on the dyno stock. Its 12.3 sec car at 116mph. And the Z has also been tested in japan earlier this year stock with the 155mph limiter removed and it hit a 186mph max speed. Go see for yourself. These drag times have been all set by Hagerty, and check best motoring for the top speed run. The supra was also tested and hit a 183mph top speed stock. Id say the supra being much lighter of its other b58 sibblings is the most capable has a much superior top speed than them. Yet it still couldnt trap higher than the Z.
Given the Z is slower on track than the supra. I highly doubt those underrated power wise bmws trap more than 175mph. So again because u say b58 make more power easily, it aint no more capable or stronger engine than the vr30, it appears though because BMW lies big time about their hp numbers that is why. So obviously of you making more power than the other car aint you suppose to be faster. But just comes to show how capable the Z is.
Time will prove even more wait n see when the Z start making big numbers. After the quarter the Z will smash both bmw 240 an 340i sibblings sorry. I would love to see a one mile drag between both cars or a top speed run with limiters removed from all cars lets see whos more capable.
For the record lets all be reminded the vr30 was birth child of the vr38 stuff of mythical status. A stock 07-10 GTR r35 480hp stock tested by gtboard hits 197.5mph or 318kmh on the autobahn with traffic at night. See for yourselfth-cam.com/video/qGGPhywecSk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=oJPYRbZonWJSh_CT. No production bmw much less ford comes even close to that number in under 480hp range. Talk about capabilities.
For mustang boys, the z on same tyres as you yeah even tuned its still makes same 480hp ur mustang makes, and literally destroys it, again yeah its tuned, but thats talking same hp. Yeah u can tune your stang 800hp or more. So what if the Z has 800hp too, who says the vr30 cant make that, theyve already got a 1000hp made by ams. What would happen to the stang.
At the end of day Z with same power eats mustangs all day no competition, different league of performance my friend.
What is the top speed of a 480hp mustang stock i wonder. Right.
Forget 0-60 an quarter mile aint everything, lets see a top speed run with the stang and stock Z both cars limiters removed 2 mile runway, lets see how far your mustang runs before it runs out of breath.
Z won? Whoooohoooooo! 💪😎👍
Tune that GT and see what happens. 😂
still looses 😂
The Z is faster, but felt like the stang shouldve done better even being stock. This was a thrashing..imagine the Z had an e tune (instead of 93).
It's cause Sam doesn't know how to race...
@@Ohfiveoh_ They are both automatics. From a roll, all you have to do is mash the gas pedal. What more does he need to know?
@@davisflyer Tell me how to drive my own car 💀
@Ohfiveoh_ let's see your race videos?
And imagine if that mustang had headers and e85. Z would lose
I love all these videos. You guys do a great job. As an owner of a 2024 Nissan Z with a 6 speed manual and new Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires, I'd love to know which exhaust this Z was using. Sounds great!
MBRP 😊
Good to see a z do alright, to be fair most will get these mods
How embarrassing, heavyweight vs light heavyweight. Heavyweight loses 😂
Whomp whomp
Yeah and it only took modifications to make the Z faster than a stock Mustang. One-handed clap for you.
Unexpected? A tuned turbo car beats a NA car. In other news water wet
can you learn to drive? shift to 2nd a run a 40 roll the proper roll and leave it in drive and don't paddle shifttttt...... jesus bro
You can't beat a tuned turbocharged car. The torque comes in and shoves you in the back, It's probably got 100 lb ft more than the stang at the same RPM. No chance for a heavy car like the stang. Needs to lose 200 lbs and have a shorter gearing or higher final drive ratio.
For the Z. Down pipe, cai, heat exchanger and tune = $3200 with 500+ whp
E85 and headers on the mustang would cost less and be faster lol
@@Freddy_Confettithen add e85 on the z. For the mustang you need cold air intakes, exhaust, headers,flex fuel, and a tune. And it’ll still be slower than an e85 tuned z.
I don't get the meaning of you being surprised lol but do your thing. Is the Z 480 whp vs BHP on the mustang?
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Finally a z with the 9at putting in some work! I knew this car had crazy potential
You should put stock Supra auto vs this tuned Z would be fair for Nissan fan girls lol 😂
Yea u should put transgender 🏳️⚧️ z4 vs this Z would not be fair for Knock off zupra Toyota fan girls I mean bmw!
no kidding....
@@Nismo1983 lol you mad nismo faggggggggggsssss be but hurt you got a 68k car that’s trash and get raped by regular 5.0 mustangs lol 😂 sad day for you
@@Nismo1983 you have to put a tuned shitty Z against a stock supra to even have a chance. Zupra is king litle boy. Dont cry
@@JDeezers king of Transgender little boy Nissan is the king 👑! Don’t cry 😭 Toyota give u Knock off zupra no not mk4 real Supra 2jz just like all Toyota Vehicle are half ass now Plus it stand chance with this Z shity ass half ass z4!
Yes this Gen mustang is FAT AND SLOWWWWW😂😂😂
It does 0-60 in 3.7 seconds. Faster than previous gens.
Here comes the herd
Damn, get that tuned Z to race a stock ZL1
Oh boy... Here comes all the Mustang kiddies QQ-ing
This is as expected. The Z is very formidable when modded correctly.
What did you expect the z is making 80-100hp more Than the Mustang 😂
Should have race between stock Darkhorse vs Nismo Z. This comparison is garbage.
Oh its a nissan.. why because they dont expensive suvs, sedans, gran coupes like your bmws, before you talk smack get yall facks right goofs, look back at history, when Nissan was making straight sixes, bmw and toyots was living in its shadow, dont even talk about motorsports wins, bmw and toyota you could conjoined them back them and cut the Nissans victories by more than half and still out right come out on top with the Win. Rb greatest straight six of all time, and why BMW is the greatest straight six of the present because no one else makes them. Only now one manufacturer here an there puts one in one of their vehicle. So how can you not have the best on offer if you have no one else making them.
Tell me what new bmw has created such an impact that it sent everyone back to the drawing board? None... which Bmw from back mid 2000s can still be compared even though not faster than most supercars nowadays (GTR) can be compared? None. It would be like comparing a handicap person in a wheelchair to an actual car hah.
Bmw is not more capable than nissan sorry, has not achieved feats that nissan has in motorsports or road cars. They may be classed as a more premium brand than Nissan, because their s rich person car brand, but certaintly aint no more capable or have more potential than nissan performance wise apples to apples. When the R36 GTR launches it will remind all you BMW fanboys of where your place in the automotive world stands. As yall watch in awe as it raises the performance bar in the automotive world again. All manufacturers nemesis will be reborn once again. Until then enjoy your b58s and s58s while they last ladies an gentlemen.
typical Ford
Tune the Mustang and watch it easily win, even naturally aspirated.
This video is fake go look at other test drive videos and the mustang smokes the Z lol 😂 u guys love a fake pipe dream video when its a fact the mustang on paper and when both drivers are pushing the cars too max rpm or peak power shifts mustang wins or should i say muscle wins evertime 😢
Did you miss the part where the Z has a tune?
Forget his driving skills (thats up for debate) but 75% of his videos are schechy. Either races are rigged or the drivers he brings in lie considerably about their power numbers, which aren't vetted by this channel.
Keep telling u that body u might believe it one day lol ✌️
What gear is he starting on the mustang? Does he know that engine loves rpms? It sounded like forever to rev into the next shift when means he starts like 3rd/4th.
NISSAN is junk
someone jealous. hahaha
@@asianyangster916 jealous of junk, you must be a standup comic !
I feel like the race he does are some what unfair I’ve seen most of his vidz, like this one for example why put a tuned car with a stock car.
Even if you had a Mustang that was tuned you’re never going to get the same performance from tuning a NA engine as you can from Tuning a boosted engine. If you’re willing to add boost to the Mustang then the Z wouldn’t have a chance . The only issue with that is the average car person might add a tune with some bolt ons whereas it’s going t9 take a true car enthusiast with racing goals to boost the Mustang.
A lot are juicing theirs. I am also waiting for a good SC kit to drop for the IS500.
Well a tuned e85 s550 makes around 480-520 depending on the intake manifold. The mustangs are known for giving the supra a run for their money tuned. This is a silly comparison. Upgraded tire and tuned vs stock tire 😂😂 mustang.
@@javyramirez9734
480 to the wheels.
With twin turbos you should be able to make more power with the Z
They’re tryna mislead people clearly the title said tuned not modded and that car is clear modded I work at a car dealer and have drove that car plenty of times
Huh? 😂 tuned includes modifications.
They literally spelled out the mods on the Z , even down to the tires , you're a low IQ
ill get a z in say 15 years. they will be 15 grand by then
NOOOOOOOW , LET’S TRY THAT TUNED Z VS THE BASTARD SUPRA/BMW ; now let’s see what the Out come gonna be🎯🎯🎯👌🏾‼️
Put it against a tuned Supra to keep it fair.
We are look for it
Mustang looks better but I trust Japaneese engineering more so than Ford's.
🤣
SonicTuned is one of the best VR30 tuners around.
Don’t forget Racebox
@@reynaldorivera743racebox, sonictuned, and ams are the 3 best tuners.
Like I saiddd..This Channel doesn't care about any weight difference. Over 300 pounds difference.
The new stang added power but also added weight. Dang with a simple FBO and tune that Z is bus lengths in front of it. In my opinion the stang is overhyped.
That Z is moving that's for sure. Strange. I have a 19 mustang gt 10speed and completely stock on stock tires in hot humid FL my best was 11.86 at 119. You should be closer to 12 flat to 12.1 Now with my current mods stock tune, Roush cold air, corsa extreme active cat back exhaust, full Steeda race suspension with adjustable coil overs springs, tubular K member, irs bracing and bushings, irs lock out, stop the hop kit, DSS drive shaft, Steeda trident lite wheels, carbon fiber hood and trunk, rear seat delete. On 305 drag radials with ok DA it runs consistent 10.9 at 126. Next on my list I'm going to get a Lund E85 tune and kooks long tubes and should be down to 10.3- 10.5 at 130s.
@user-bk5ey9ws5g let's see that VR30 run that without boost. 😊
Just sell it and get a supra lol. You’ll beat whatever time in your Mustang with a $500 tune
This Mustang probably has the 3.15 axle ratio and terrible tires.
@@chadkent1241 not a comparison its a smaller engine...
The new mustangs seem to be slower.
New cars are so much faster then the previous gen... Mustang did under 4 seconds - thats amazing , still lost omg - turbo is turbo...
These Nissan always outperform the American v8 Chevy and Ford. You pretty much have to mod the v8 until you can only track drive it to compete with the Nissan... With the Nissan you can drive it to the track compete and drive back home... Your camero or mustang better get trailer in with your quarter ton pick up😅
Let me rephrase for you. The Nissan had to mod in order to beat the Mustang. As far as a road course goes, the Camaro will run circles around both of these cars.
@@gtrance3567 if you go back to the 80s the zcar smoked the same level stang & maro ...up to today from what I saw the same level maro gets smoked by the stang and this stang just got handled by the z ... With the same amount of tunes they need to do a remake and compare but if I'm not mistaken with no tunes the less hp z car still dominate... the track is a different factor you have to look at driver skill ect...
Discovered the Nissan fanboy.
@@302Mustang13 😃 I guess if we go out and drop 2 million on a mark iv gt 500 it will make ford look like something against the gtr nizmo 😆 a 200k car if tuned dominates all vehicles in automotive history!
@@Rdizil-ox1ye yet you all keep saying you have to tune it to be heros. Stock vs stock is the basic and obviously you have no clue what a modded Mustang or Camaro can do and drive to the track as well.
Are you ever gonna feature a camaro RS v6 10speed auto
Soon
The newer v6 Camaros are impressive! The ten speed really helps and all the weight chevy shaved off them made the biggest difference.
@@SamCarLegionmake sure you learn how to drive before you shoot that video 😂
That Nissan Z is a BEAUTIFUL car. Impressively fast with a tune too.
I’ve seen people drive badly but not like Sam
Hey Sam, now is the perfect time to do another video of that Z vs a modded Supra. That would be very interesting!!!
Yet again you show us you dont know how to drive these cars Sam 💀
Show him you can do better :) don’t cheap talk like old ladies
Nope that does not equate! You're not leaving that hard on a roll from a vehicle that has almost the same power even with boost!! Funny numbers!
Clearly you root for the cars you like. This is pure propaganda lol
The VR30 is a sleeping beast!💪 I do the same in with my heavier AWD Q60 to V8s. Once tuned or full bolt ons + tuned, they are torque monsters.
That z is making the same power as a 2009 GTR just so people know...
Lighter & smaller 🚀!
yeah shades of tuned a tuned e85 Grandnational that will run 10s with traction and nothing else until the stock Transmission breaks
Transmission will handle 700whp on the z
Nissan has more too it than stated.
A bolt-on tuned vr30 should be in the mid-high 11s 1/4 mile. E30 mix would make it much faster.
That Mustang never got close to redline. Stated BS Your rolling format is garbage
Lame crap
Hahaha he took off before you, and u left soft , brotha you hate the fact 10speeds beating everything, your not starting at the top of your gear, your starting low, its like your trying to loose
I was hesitant in believing that the Z made 480 hp until he gapped the Mustang. He definitely pushing at least that. 😂
Why would you be hesitant lol
@@tyhyhh people often overestimate their power gains from mods if they don’t have dyno numbers.
@@Cgee3 thats def 480 to the wheels not crank
Nice video keep up the good work Sam
Poeple were ready to shit on the Z if the mustang would have won lol.5.0 v8 against a small 3.0 v6,one is heavier one is lighter...and it goes on.The faster car won today,that is all.Both are great cars,we should just appreciate ICE cars for what they are today.
It's not about being a fanboi. It's understanding N/A vs forced induction and there's not a Z on the planet powered by a prepped oe Z engine running 6.2s @ nearly 230 mph. But boosted Coyotes have. In ANY Apples to apples comparison, the Coyote will win in a drag race, every time.
How bout this ?
Take the huffer off the Z and run it against the NA Coyote and that Z would be a turd.
Umm... Coyote + Whipple = Dead Z
The Love of Ford is that they give you this great performance STOCK. Where are all the tuned Mustangs well over 500 horsepower? Where is the DarkHorse??? Darkhorse Tuned? .....come on Sam literally finding different mods to the same 2 cars? Nismo and Hyundai. And you'll find as many better versions as you can to race flat out stock Fords? Lol.....clever lol
This has to be the worst car youtube channel 💀
😂😂😂 you are just a hater lol love to hate ehh
Is it just 93 tune for 480 whp? What was the trap speed?
Personally, I'm taking the Z. Looks better and on top of that, the bolt ons net better power than bolt ons with the Mustang. If you want big power from the Ford, you need boost or nitrous. The Z with an intercooler, E85 it would make over 500 easy. Upgrade the turbos if the internals can handle it and itll do 600++. Mustang needs 8k worth of parts not including labor and tuning to match what the Z could do at a fraction of that cost. But, and this is the big but, those Mustangs with boost make BIG numbers. If the Z doesnt have internals for 8-900, the Mustang would win the power adder game.
Stock NA vs Tuned (S1) great video comparison 😅 Why would you waste your time doing these types of races? Of course, the tuned car will win.
He is very biased reviewer. He had videos talking about how love for Nissan.
The one thing as a car Enthusiast that you can take from this video is that for the price of the Nissan you can still get a 2018 through 2023 Mustang and you can easily make 500 wheel with bolt ons and it's going to be a lot faster than the Nissan for under the MSRP that dealers are asking for that z
That’s the only way a crappy Nissan can win! 😂
@@Drako_93550Stock For Stock The Mustang Almost Has 100hp On The Z . So Of Course The Stang Should And Would Win. Duh.
@@J.Nev. That's how the race should've been done Stock vs Stock, I don't see the point putting a Tuned car vs Stock car, Go get a FBO Gen 3 Mustang and put it against this Nissan and see what happens, that would be a good race.
I recognize that Z!
Man, I love your watches
Stock NA vs Tuned/. looooool!!!!
People acting like it's a shocker...
How is this surprising to anyone? And to the channel, how is this the least bit surprising? I’m pretty sure you ran a GT vs a Z a few weeks back and the Z beat the FIVE oh. Everyone in the comm was was clamoring for a driver mod….
So, according to that race, how does this surprise you at all? You seem so surprised. To me, it’s sincerely disingenuous….
80 HP is 20% of 400(Z stock HP#)
Let’s reverse it. .20% x 486 = 97.
97 + 486 = 583
583 > 400
The fact that you had a stock Z beating a stock GT a few weeks back on your channel makes you somewhat incredible tbh with you
A stock Z is not going to beat a stock GT. Out the gate. Stock for stock as the manufacturers intended
Since I don’t buy the results if that race one bit, this race means nothing….
10sp, e85, tune, full exhaust and intake. Bye Z, how you doin GTR
just turn up the boost a little on the z 😂GTR not even in the question
Next video tuned new mustang with that same z tuned mustang should destroy it
@@tonywade161 won’t make any difference. The gap was way too much
The coyote engine doesn’t really do much when tuned. It’s big thing is that it loves boost. Even with bigger turbos that Z has no shot against a supercharged Mustang or turbo Mustang
No the z will still win it’s nothing new even the q50’s fbo on e85 gap fbo e85 10 speed 5.0
Nissan Destroyed ford mean’s ford off road dead 💀!
It’s a very interesting terrain you’d stepped in with that video. We always see various tuned sport cars with well known mods and HP/TQ figures but seldom can verify what those mods represent in real life! The best way is exactly what you did: the tuned car with the mods and performance numbers description vs a stock very familiar sport car (that’s even more exciting than to compare with the same model but stock).
Now I’m curious to see how that tuned Z would go against let’s say a stock C7 Corvette Stingray🤩