I don’t know if it counts as powers, but I always found it interesting how Batman doesn’t put more research into learning magic. Even if basic spells and stuff, it would even the playing field against some stronger foes
@@kaijohuton3198I forget what comic it was but I’m pretty sure there was a time where Batman said he knew how to use magic but doesn’t like the unreliability of it
@@JT405Wyeah, Batman was able to easily use magic but he just believed it was some part of science that was currently undiscovered so he just dismissed it
@@JimmCorrigan In a recent comic I think they explained that Batman has tried and Zatanna did try to teach him when they were teenagers, It's just Bruce is naturally really bad at it and Zatarra wiped the training from his mind.
Batman needs no powers. He is the man there is. The only one. He would beat Darkseid,Thanos,Galactus and God together with one hand tied behind his back and his eyes blindfolded. Its not even possible to outsmart him because he is a brilliant master detective with an IQ higher than Einsteins,he knows everything,he is master skilled in crime psychology,he is a high skilled forensic,he has experience as a master surgeon,he is a more than skilled racing driver,he can fly planes,helicopters and drive submarines. Beside this he is an outstanding hand-to-hand-combattant (even Bruce Lee would take lessons from him),skilled in quite every weapon there is,he is skilled in military tactics and he knows what to do because he is Batman. End of irony but Batman is ridiculous. Seriously. Dare to tell me again that Superman is overpowered.
Anyone ever wondered why firestorm just doesn't create kryptonite??? Couldn't he just turn Supermans or in this case Batman's uniform into kryptonite???
Only slight issues is Firestorm and Zatanna . They both can just produce Red Sun energy and/or Kryptonite. Zatanna is a telepathy with a spell - she could fry his brain - then heal him. She has in the past said "superman Stop". And Why didnt she just heal Nightwing? Or call Raven - or at least have in dialogue - "we reached out to raven - she can heal Richard" Diana could have used the lasso to get him to come to his senses.
@@kingwildcat6192000Your not even a 100% sure of the answer yet your correcting someone else 😑 his FULL name is: “Richard John Dick Grayson” but they just call him “dick” anyways because it’s what he prefers.
5:53 to be fair batman only removed her 02 mask because firestorm and green lantern were there, he wouldn't have done that if there wasnt a way to create 02 for hawkgirl
Also, since when can't a lantern generate oxygen? They wouldn't be able to around themselves and travel with other through space without an oxygen tank like we see countless times. I've never heard about lanterns not being able to generate oxygen inside their constructs - that's really stupid lol.
@@yourmom6888 no offence but that is exactly why I hate JL batman because the PLOT is always in his side i.e. if the PLOT demands it he is practically immune/counter to any kind of mind control or corruption but at the same time can easily be mind control or corrupt.
@@Markcus003 just tell that you guys just hate Batman and can't bare sight of him at this point. From the last 3 years the batman hate has been unreal can't even see one peaceful discussion without illogically hating on him. Your criticic literally doesn't make any sense. You're upset when he is immune to mind control and you're also upset when he isn't.
I'm sorry, but even regular Batman could have evaded that last "suprise attack" from Zatanna, especially since Supes yelled out "Now!". Even if we consider that Batman was caught off guard, because of everything going on (which isn't true, because at that point he was back in fight mode), he would have still tackled her before she had time to chant anything. They should have had an actual speedster do that part.
Here’s what people don’t understand. Batman comments on this a lot. The level of power superman has would drive anyone insane. That is part of the magic of kal el, he stays balanced even with this insane powers. In his case absolute power does not corrupt absolutely. Also people need to stop with this nonsense that superman can’t fight or superman doesn’t train or superman isn’t smart or tactical. It’s nonsense.
Exactly in the batman hush movie when Ivy controls clark to kill Bruce and selina , selina asks Bruce if he can actually take down superman with his kryptonite knuckles. He said that if superman wanted he could have killed them both a long time ago. Deep down Clark is a good person, deep down Bruce is not . A great way to show his self awareness.
The thought of Superman not being able to fight is absolutely mind numbingly stupid. One of his greatest enemies is a literal military general with the same powers as him. Another one is a giant hulking monster that's arguably stronger and faster than him.
Batman is clearly not thinking straight. Dude breaks all 206 bones in a dudes body who stole from a grandma cuz hes about to go hungry. I dont think that any amount of powers will make bruce go harder intentionally
@@DJ-vk4rpShe may be the most powerful of the group, but she lacks the experience of that of Wonder Woman. And considering Batman now has the powers of a kryptonian, due to her inexperience in fighting in comparison to Wonder Woman, she wouldn't be the most dangerous. Plus Diana would be far more willing to kill than Kara if necessary.
It’s been expressed time and time again that Wonder Woman is the most powerful physically powerful woman in DC. Supergirl has impressive physical attributes, she lacks Wonder Women’s experience, Wonder Woman’s feats are also better.
@@noneyabidness9644 That doesn’t make her stronger…Wonder Woman and supergirl have fought before with supergirl being bloodlusted (2x) and they both ended the same, with Wonder Woman being the clear victor. All while holding back I should add.
Probably because they didn't want to ruin the narrative that they even stood a ghost of a chance against superman. Since they've recently decided to replace him with them.
@@noneyabidness9644 Well Superman has admitted that he’s scared of Martian Manhunter and that could’ve turned into a whole saga like when they introduced his dark side Furnace (Or however you spell his name). Plastic Man would’ve had Batman submit and produced the same results. Batman has admitted he’s glad Plastic Man is a goofy person.
@@stevenscott2136 Now you know that Batman has plot armor and they just would’ve made his mind some type of labyrinth with failsafes and file cabinets 😂
@@WebbedManiacand if we’re being honest with the amount of ridiculous feats Superman has he should’ve been able to speed blitz them before they could even react
5:46 "Ruthless and out of character" Nope. If either Firestar or Lantern or both hadn't been there, Batman would have just clipped her wings. This would still force someone to have to aid her. But the way he did it killed "three" birds with one stone (pun not intended)
@@bman3794 If it did they wouldn't have said that it was affecting his mind. Also Batman has gotten powers on multiple occasions and didn't act that way.
Actually he has or he at least list his humanity when he sat in the mobious chair. Or when he becomes a Vampire. There have also been a couple of other occasions where Batman couldn't handle he's powers and it makes sense since he always has always had this flawed process of not killing characters like the Joker while when Superman does something similar to his more extreme villains doesn't turn evil. It's just how it is.
Not too bad. If Bats wasn't acting completely against character... And the change having changed him is nonsense. Bats has ALWAYS been a psycho, you can't watch Joker victims for the 50th time and not decide to just kill him, not know that it IS your fault. If you can stand the knowledge and guilt and carry on then getting Superman's power would do nothing to you.
@@zxshadowxz In this Batman "funny" comic, the Joker just escaped a fight with Batman and was wandering around. Offing people at random. The he decided to call it a night and went to bed. He wondered on whose bed he would sleep tonight. And he didn't mean on which girlfriend's...
Batman isn't psycho he's just a comic book character. Is Spider-Man psycho for letting Green Goblin live? Is Superman psycho for letting Darkseid live? No they are comic book characters living in comic book worlds. Superheroes will never kill their villains because that villain needs to come back for a future story. Why can't people understand that? It's not rocket science it's very simple.
@@callmejacob3234 spiderman is a kid and batman is an adult. Dont ask a kid to do adult decisions, he isnt even allowed to drink and you expect him to start blasting? What is wrong with you? If the law deems him unfit enough to drink then he isnt responcible enough to carry a gun.
@@if7723kinda good to see it, Nightwing is put on a throne for no reason but being the first sidekick and statements, everyone needs to be humbled sometimes
This video cut out the context. It was explained that the amulet grants wishes but at a cost. For Batman, it took away his self-control, causing his mind and emotions to be erratic.
@@NumaxNinjait ain’t hating as much as it is pointing out facts. Fictional characters are supposed to be entertaining or tell a story, even flawed ones, however when you have a character with plot armor as thick as Batman, every story becomes stale and monotone. Which is why I often stay away from main JL comics.
@@vincentlucario5450who cares if there’s plot armor, Just enjoy it and Stfu, its drawings in a book, rhetorically speaking I could just make a character out of thin air and make him overpowered for no reason.
Absolute powers corrupts absolutely is such a loser comeback. DC is a universe with thousands of celestials with “absolute power”. And just like humans are varies, celestials are varied as well. Some good and some bad. Corrupts absolutely is just a generalizing speck of a thought. Truth is, there would be just as much diversity, and just as much good and bad as with regular mortals. Also, Superman is not some pinnacle of moral authority either. The guy is entirely “status quo”, which, as the quote goes “for the triumph of evil, good people should do nothing”….. it just does not work.
At the end of the day batman is just a kid with who misses his parents. It hurts to see that cause when I was a kid my mom who was my only parent at the time abandoned me and left me in a house alone so she could move to new jersey with a guy she met on a dating app that sense of loneliness is crippling and its why I look up to batman because of the shared experience of loneliness and it hurts my heart when that trauma is used against him
His point about Superman whining about wanting his powers back is the same essential grievance most stories have about the circular lack of accountability. People for instance balk and mistreat each other and the earth all the time but when Galactus or some other planet-ending force comes ready to wipe us out we're suddenly on our best behavior, screaming at the tops of our lungs about how humanity deserves to live. Ppl that are shocked at Batman's behavior clearly don't know the character that well. Their is a jealous streak in him when it comes to Superman, and the powers amplify what was always there.
Wrong actually he's had Superman's powers before when he was off planet and didn't tweak out Truth is the writers had to put Batman back to the status quo so that's why he doesn't be as op as he can be
Kinda disappointed Batman didn’t get beaten. Like I can understand if he actually does something smart, but the people that fly intergalactic distances through space forgetting to turn on their oxygen while in space is stupid and makes Batman look stupid by proxy. A better fight and outcome would have been them capturing him and Batman finding a way to escape while sabotaging their ability to further chase him.
Cry about it, he’s the 2nd best Fighter in Dc and had Superman powers obviously he wins😂 who logically beats that? No one but prime Superman or Dr.Manhattan
@@NumaxNinja I don't know. maybe the people who have experience using super powers for their whole lives. logically Bruce shouldn't know how to make most effective use of his abilities. still fighting like a ground locked regular person rather than someone with with 3d movement. not to mention against firestorm and Zatanna who should be able to deal with superman powers easily. it boils down to plot and that's about it really.
There was a story that explained that if Batman ever used magic or any super power for that matter, he would turn evil. This is a prime example of that
I don't really understand that though. Batman has enough will power and mental strength to not give in to killing anyone, but as soon as he gets powers, he becomes evil and kills people and stuff
@@thesithofearth3617 Some people are just incompatible with certain changes to them or their environment. A diease could kill people, but some can survive, if thag makes sense. Or you can say, power is his weakness
He was around 10 when his parents were killed, it took 20 years or so to become Batman. My question 20 years, Alfred didn’t think about a therapist for Bruce??
Bruce was ten, he wasn’t a toddler. Alfred didn’t have to toss into a medical facility right away. But when Bruce hit 6’4” and 245. Spending millions on those wonderful toys a couple sessions might have helped
Bruce is so smart and puts so much effort into learning everything, he never actually bothered to deal with his trauma and study more on his own mental health and try to get over it.
He deliberately cut out the context of how Superman and Zatanna found Silver Banshee and the amulet. Finding out that the amulet grants wishes but at a cost. For Batman, it was to take away his self-control. Causing his mind and emotions to become erratic.
Personally I wish the story line would have focused more on Batman and Wonder Woman going hand to hand more now that there closely equal in power. . Between both their fighting skills that should easily be it’s story of its own.
They're not equal. Superman is far stronger than Wonder Woman. Even Batman has said that Wonder Woman is the best hand to hand fighter in the League. So if they were equal in power levels then Wonder Woman would win.
@@WebbedManiac I didn’t mention Superman. Also Batman had also said Lady Shiva was second to none and he still takes her on. Even if Wonder Woman is the best at hand to hand Batman is the best strategist and tactician. Superman called Batman the most dangerous man on earth and that’s without powers.
@@IbriyGad Yeah but if it's a full 1v1 Gladiator style match then Wonder Woman has a higher chance of winning. Again, according to Batman she's "the best melee fighter in the league". Lady Shiva is dangerous cause she's also a master assassin, but Wonder Woman is 100% head-on combat focused from top to bottom. Her contingency plan literally includes putting her in an illusion where she's fighting an opponent of equal skill because nobody in the League is as skilled as her.
I really like the story, but I think some of the characters should be replaced with someone else. Wonder Woman is by far more experienced than anyone else, she would have been expecting a blow, and would have deflected it. Supergirl is just as strong, fast and able, would have been more of a fight. Firestorm could have created a red sun , green lanterns could have created constructs to occupy Batman while the others restricted him. The golden magic lasso has the power to command anyone who is caught by it. Wonder Woman has fought Superman many times, and others that are as powerful and more powerful, she knows every form of hand to hand combat. The story is good, but the characters need to be swapped out.
This is in it's own way one of Batman's greatest fears. If he ever had a choice in the matter he'd never want Superman's powers because he knows better than anyone that he'd turn out like this. He's well aware of the corruptive influence of power on the minds of men, and he's also well aware of how ambiguously he walks on the line of going too far even without powers. It's also a big part of the reason he respects Superman as much as he does. Batman would be the very first person to admit that Superman is a better person than him, the only person he'd ever admit it for. It takes someone as genuinely good natured deep down as Superman to handle the massive burden of responsibility his power brings.
Kinda, but no. Batman became crazy with power because the magical amulet took away all of his self-control. Causing his mind and emotions to become erratic. The amulet grants wishes but at a cost.
@@tsnoob4669 It's not mutually exclusive. In this specific instance it was because of a magic amulet that takes control and corrupts people, but the mainline Batman knows full well that if he were to actually gain Superman's powers without such an amulet that he'd eventually misuse them anyway. It's a big part of why he doesn't have super powers already. He's fully aware of a number of different methods he could use to gain super powers, he'd hardly be the first normal human to suddenly become super in his world. He deliberately doesn't do it because he knows he's already dangerous enough without powers. He knows how important it is to keep contingency plans for the event in which any member of the League goes rogue, including himself. Adding powers to his already impressive arsenal of gadgets and genius level improvisational and strategic capabilities in addition to him being a master of every known form of martial arts on the planet and knowing everyone else's weaknesses would simply be overkill for the other members of the league to deal with.
@@Crow_Rising That's not it, though. The reason why he doesn't get superpowers is because he would be too reliant on them. Eventually, they would get taken away. The other reason is that writers don't want to break the core characteristics of not having superpowers.
Wonder Woman needs an upgrade in powers. Here’s why, if she has to go toe to toe with kryptonian powers; she should have more than a lasso to make the fight interesting. This doesn’t mean that she could necessarily win but have a better advantage. DC tends to make Diana too weak in comparison to Superman’s strength most of the time.
But she is a better fighter tho, superman might be stronger but he hasn't been a trained warrior since a kid. Even tho I do agree sometimes she could be buffed up, she is OP in DCeased, check it out
@@LoWisR0511As far as i remember, she was always considered little weaker in terms of raw strength, but compensated with being faster and more "agile" than him. At least that's how i interpreted their powersets. In the end their are near-equals when it comes to physical traits, but she is waaaaaaaay more skilled than him.
@HanithSVK No. Not true. He is so fast that he lives a thousand years every second. He has less battle experience. But he is not lacking in time to think. He can consider rather than relying on muscle memory and training.
Superman's power varies wildly depending on his solar charge. I recall one story where she told him there was something out near Pluto that needed his attention, and when he came back, he was sufficiently weakened by the long flight and lack of sunlight that she almost beat him.
"hero acts like a villain but ACKSHULLY they're a victim because they can't control themselves" has to be one of the most tiresome tropes in modern media.
This video cut out the context. It was explained that the amulet grants wishes but at a cost. For Batman, it took away his self-control, causing his mind and emotions to be erratic.
Pretty sure in the latest comics? The ones where It goes through batmans training one of his teachers were like "nope you dont get magic, People like you never end up doing good" heavily summarised but this comic kind of proves it
The Knight series explained that in order to use magic, Batman needed to let go of something, not just his "darkness." Zatara explained that either he let go of his "darkness" or he let go of all the skills and everything he worked for, so far at that point, in order to master magic. Zatara knew he wouldn't let go of his skills, that's why he refused. If he does, he would be left with nothing but his "darkness" and drive from his parent's death. This comic doesn't prove it because the context of how Batman is going crazy was cut out. Superman and Zatanna found Silver Banshee and the amulet. It's revealed that the amulet grants wishes but at a cost. For Banshee, she gets a new body, but the amulet caused the new body to rapidly age to an old lady. To the point that she's too weak to take off the amulet. For Batman, the amulet took away his self-control. Causing his mind and emotions to become erratic. This is why he was so emotional when he saw his parents. This is how Superman and Zatanna took advantage of Batman's lack of control to lower his guard.
He's playing chess with Green Arrow and Hawkman, none of them wanted the smoke so they sit back and watch it all play out, they kew things would get back to normal. 😂
@@vegetacultminorityhunter Then Batman would not help him pay his rent. Let's be real here Batman is the sugar daddy of the Justice League. Without him the League would be homeless.
Wow some awesome deep points. ~Batman reminding HalJordan The greatest willpower Lantern "My Will is miles beyonf your comprehension" is not only harsh but accurate.. Ouch! ~~Same thing about him spending his whole life being Batman where SUperman takes time off alot because he wants to human. Also accurate & harsh.Ouch 2.0... ~~Can we agree "Last Night on Earth" is the quintisential(sp) best dark future Batman?? Dude uses every Meta Human as batteries of some kind. He skinned Cheetah. Used Martian Mahunter & Aqauaman as Psychic weapons & security,,,,relocated Wayne Manor on top of WayneTower.. ~Reminds me of Alex Ross GOAT storyline "JUSTICE" where LexLuthor & Brainiac use GorillaGrodd to give ALL villains nightmares of JusticeLeague being the death of em all. So they use The AToms shrink tech, Along with the ring batteries,, Toymans tech mixed w/(i forget),, Aquamans telepathy to manipulate & defeat Grodd,, Turning WW back into Clay(lol), I like storylines that use all the DC universe like Injustice did(comic)... Lex never counted on Shazam. He/they ignored SHazam because he's useless af lol...They the machinemen. i forget what they are called. The robots w/ the letters on em by Ivo.. Man the League hid inseide em.. Alex Ross is awesome! If you haven't read 'JUSTICE' AND can't find it= i'll share a digital copy.
It was explained in the comics that the amulet took away all of Batman's self-control. Causing his mind and emotions to be erratic. Which is why he was so emotional when he saw his parents.
Batman needs no powers. He is the man there is. The only one. He would beat Darkseid,Thanos,Galactus and God together with one hand tied behind his back and his eyes blindfolded. Its not even possible to outsmart him because he is a brilliant master detective with an IQ higher than Einsteins,he knows everything,he is master skilled in crime psychology,he is a high skilled forensic,he has experience as a master surgeon,he is a more than skilled racing driver,he can fly planes,helicopters and drive submarines. Beside this he is an outstanding hand-to-hand-combattant (even Bruce Lee would take lessons from him),skilled in quite every weapon there is,he is skilled in military tactics and he knows what to do because he is Batman. End of irony but Batman is ridiculous. Seriously. Dare to tell me again that Superman is overpowered.
3:56 it won’t be enough, for all Clark’s powers one thing he was always lacking was martial skills Bruce on the other hand trained with the best fighters the earth has to make himself the best at almost everything, he even devoted time to learn how to learn so he could learn faster add that to superman’s powers and I think the only one that stands a chance is Wonder Woman as she is also trained to about the same level as Bruce (I actually love that in JLU Bruce and WW were helping to train Clark to fight as been the strongest guy in the room is fine but when your fighting people on the same level you need more than just Kryptonian powers).
Power corrupts story is horrible choice of Batman out of everyone the guy with mental defenses and has magic and superpowers at the cave always completely available to him it makes no sense
It wasn't a power corrupts story. The amulet responsible for all of this took away all of Batman's self-control. The uploaded deliberately cut out the context of how Superman and Zatanna found out how the amulet grants wishes but comes at a cost. This is more of a monkey's paw story.
Just a reminder that Firestorm needs to know the chemical structure of an object before making it. So he can't just make Kryptonite unless he knows EXACTLY how it is made, like Momo from mha
What a missed opportunity to have Superman bath in a synthetic lazarus pit made specifically to restore Batman’s consciousness imprinting Bruce’s training and fighting style onto Clark for a small fight
"Superman show how much of a hero he is going out without his powers! He could be killed"... like everyday for Batman? Nightwing? Green arrow? So he goes out one time without powers, with one of the most powerful magic user of the world, and this shows how much of a hero he is? Cmon...
@@if7723 Except he didn't do anything. Zatanna did all of the work. Banshee was stuck as an old lady because the amulet grants wishes but comes with a cost. It gave her a body, but it ages her. So Zatanna used her magic to release her, and she left. While Superman is standing to the side doing nothing.
It seems that if Batman ever had powers he would let them go to his head and act like a real Batdick psycho! See that's why Superman has always handled those powers better than he can obviously. Also when Bats beat Clark like that he disrespected him saying these powers are wasted on you cause you mostly focus on being a normal person living a normal life when you should ALWAYS focus on stopping crime like I do. See that was really rude and that's why I don't like Batman these recent days being such an arrogant rude selfish Batdick who doesn't know what real feelings are anymore being so unbalanced.
This story was taken out of context. The uploaded deliberately cut out the part where Superman and Zatanna found Silver Banshee in her new body with the magic amulet. They found out that the amulet grants wishes but at a cost. For Banshee, it gave her a new body, but it aged her, causing her to be too weak to take it off. For Batman, it took away all of his self-control, causing his mind and emotions to be erratic. You would knownthis if you actually read the comics, instead of relying on videos. This happened in Superman/Batman issues 53-56.
@abhinav2500 One reason why Bruce was in the league of the assassin. money = power, & Ras' al ghul wanted Bruce to be his successor he would've alot of money by another way
@@tiwill0709 Dude how do you think Batman found the League in the first place? Because of his money. If he didn't have money he wouldn't have been able to travel the world for his training. So Ra's Al Ghul would never have known about Bruce Wayne.
Green kryptonite radiation is poisonous to Superman, but it doesn't necessarily deprives him of powers, although it interfers with his cells ability to absorb metabolise sunlight. Red sun radiation deprives him of the sunlight he needs, but he still has some power left. The more he uses his powers under a red sun, the faster he deplets his reserves. Night and darkness affects him the same way, btw. Blue kryptonite shuts down his cells ability to absorb and metabolise sunlight as long as he keeps it on his person. In some DC Comic books, Silver K mutates baseline human physiology into kryptonian, granting them permanent Kryptonian powers. Red K has unpredictible effects, but a lot of the time it shuts down inhibitions. Light from a dwarf star supercharges a kryptonian. And I haven't even gotten to the BIZARRO variants
And the most asinine saying ever. Truth is, there would be just as much variety and flavors to power just as there is diversity to individuals. Just like there were many emperors, kings etc throughout history. Some good, some bad, some competent, some not. It is more so that people are not willing or are not comfortable to think of some higher power (aka god) that is not 100% human-serving, selfless, personality-less, slave and does anything and all to aid humans… being good. People expect perfection from higher power… but the notion of what that perfection/good is.. is very very limited and human-centric. Likewise, making an argument that “god that does not favor humans is evil”….. is very very very egotistic and self-centered view on morals. What happens if humanity’s extinction is deemed objectively good from the perspective of the universe? That a universe without humans would be far far more balanced and peaceful. People would lose their shit, that is what. They want a “feel good” god, that does everything to make THEIR life be better, doing nothing to affect their life negatively AND does not interfere in any capacity with normal/human-established order of things. Which is just a BS contradiction.
@kingol4801 not really. The curr ent state of things in Washington D.C. is the best proof of just how accurate that statement is. Sadly it's not the only one on this planet.
Which doesn't apply here if you know the full context of the story. Superman and Zatanna found Silver Banshee and the magic amulet. They found out that the amulet grants wishes, but it comes with a cost. For Banshee, it gives her a new body, but it aged her to an old lady. To the point that she's too weak to take off the amulet. For Batman, it took away all of his self-control. Causing his mind and emotions to become erratic.
When superman finally tried to permanently stop crime Batman loses his mind. When Batman got superman's powers he immediately berates superman for not using his powers for more. this guy is just a fucking mess. I have no Idea why people worshiped batman that much.
This video cut out the most important part of the story. Batman didn't go crazy because of the powers. He went crazy because the amulet took away all of his self-control. It didn't show how Superman and Zatanna found out how the amulet is able to grant wishes, but it would come at a cost.
I don't get why most of you guys don't CLEARLY tell us which books these stories can be found.....No I actually DO, " understand" but its frustrating, because if its supposed to get our interest, then people would Naturally want to read the book, too.
The name of this comic series starts at Batman/Superman issue 53! It’s also in the description if ever need to refer back to it. But you’re right, I’ll start referring to the book name in the actual video in the future
@@TheHeroInformer Thanks Brother, Have no idea how many times these channels have made me order the books. Ive got thousands, but when its characters I like, doing something pivotal....and I DIDNT know about......Im in. Thanks. Subbed.
the story doesn't make sense. superman's "powers" to us are like a fish looking at a monkey climb a tree. monkeys don't have powers, they have arms, legs and appendages at the end of these for grasping. climbing a tree is no more a power for a monkey than punching through a planet is for superman. the magic made superman human and made batman a kryptonian. think of giving a fish a monkey's body and a monkey a fish's... that's what happened. that doesn't make sense. however long it took to learn to walk -- that's the type of learning you'd have to go through in order to know how to do the simplest things like, for superman, breathing without hyperventilating (ifkyk).
Superman with a different outfit was a nice change. He's no longer looking like Cool aid man. He also isn't looking like some super patriot for America. He actually looks like a threat to someone.
All Superman needs to do is go to the north pole where the crystal cavern is go into the cryptonite capsule useing different cryptonite crystals to give him his power back as Superman , Superman has and knows all of cryptonite crystals if Superman wants to he can make justice leauge superjustice leauge
4:22 Nightwing: You need the power of sunlight. Batman: Think Mark, think! Nightwing: You know I'm Dick Grayson not Mark Grayson right? Batman: Think Bruce, think!
@@WebbedManiac Are you dumb? That's literally what I just said with my original comment. League telling Alfred to talk Batman down and Alfred telling them "good luck with that". To a person with a single brain cell will imply that Alfred said "he's not gonna listen". Wish people online were half as smart as a hedgehog so they could read.
Do you Enjoy Stories Where Batman Somehow Gains Powers Or Abilites? Or Do You Think The Idea Ran Dry Now?
I don’t know if it counts as powers, but I always found it interesting how Batman doesn’t put more research into learning magic. Even if basic spells and stuff, it would even the playing field against some stronger foes
@@kaijohuton3198I forget what comic it was but I’m pretty sure there was a time where Batman said he knew how to use magic but doesn’t like the unreliability of it
@@JT405Wyeah, Batman was able to easily use magic but he just believed it was some part of science that was currently undiscovered so he just dismissed it
@@JimmCorrigan In a recent comic I think they explained that Batman has tried and Zatanna did try to teach him when they were teenagers, It's just Bruce is naturally really bad at it and Zatarra wiped the training from his mind.
Batman needs no powers. He is the man there is. The only one. He would beat Darkseid,Thanos,Galactus and God together with one hand tied behind his back and his eyes blindfolded. Its not even possible to outsmart him because he is a brilliant master detective with an IQ higher than Einsteins,he knows everything,he is master skilled in crime psychology,he is a high skilled forensic,he has experience as a master surgeon,he is a more than skilled racing driver,he can fly planes,helicopters and drive submarines. Beside this he is an outstanding hand-to-hand-combattant (even Bruce Lee would take lessons from him),skilled in quite every weapon there is,he is skilled in military tactics and he knows what to do because he is Batman. End of irony but Batman is ridiculous. Seriously. Dare to tell me again that Superman is overpowered.
Anyone ever wondered why firestorm just doesn't create kryptonite??? Couldn't he just turn Supermans or in this case Batman's uniform into kryptonite???
Firestorm is overpowered. If they did that the fight be over real quick.
Plot armor
He did in Injustice 2.
@@sonicdash761 I'm going to have to go check that out.
My 1st thought. 2nd thought... where's Martian Manhunter? I thought he was responsible for the vision of the Waynes.
Only slight issues is Firestorm and Zatanna . They both can just produce Red Sun energy and/or Kryptonite. Zatanna is a telepathy with a spell - she could fry his brain - then heal him. She has in the past said "superman Stop". And Why didnt she just heal Nightwing? Or call Raven - or at least have in dialogue - "we reached out to raven - she can heal Richard" Diana could have used the lasso to get him to come to his senses.
If it ain't climactic or dramatic in some way, it ain't cool in the writers' eyes.
His name is Dick not Richard, its "Dick Greyson" not "Richard Greyson"
@@kingwildcat6192000Your not even a 100% sure of the answer yet your correcting someone else 😑 his FULL name is: “Richard John Dick Grayson” but they just call him “dick” anyways because it’s what he prefers.
@@kingwildcat6192000 Dick is short for Richard like Bobby is short for Robert
And Superman has always been weak against magic except when he isn't. Plot armor is still a thing.
Why did the League finally step in? Because he beat on Nightwing.
That's the line noone crosses.
Well yeah if you give 99% of the league a choice between batman and nightwing they will choose nightwing 100% of the time
@@wintertrooper7918yes hes not as shady as batman is
"That's America's ass"
Tbf you give Batman the choice between Batman and nightwing and 99% of the time hed ALSO choose Nightwing @@wintertrooper7918
@@brucehammadalee3835 He's also not as effective as Batman is.
7:53
Oh, so this is where that memed comic panel comes from
Stay with meeeeeee
Mayodata no do a o tadakiiiiiii
batman took it as a day pass to step out that dark abyss and free roam on creative mode 🤣🤣🤣
huuuuuge W take
5:53 to be fair batman only removed her 02 mask because firestorm and green lantern were there, he wouldn't have done that if there wasnt a way to create 02 for hawkgirl
It also made sense as it took another member of the attacking force out of the fight along with hawkgirl, lowering the variables to focus on.
Also, since when can't a lantern generate oxygen? They wouldn't be able to around themselves and travel with other through space without an oxygen tank like we see countless times. I've never heard about lanterns not being able to generate oxygen inside their constructs - that's really stupid lol.
How is Wonder Woman breathing in space tho? 😂
@@XenoxionThe ring’s first rule is to protect its user, so it should be able to make oxygen
@@Jamietheroadrunnershe's a demigod, Bruce assumed she would've lived the fall
Superman's custom Batsuit looks fire. Loved this story
Batman almost became Injustice Superman.
and instantly right after he just got his powers. what a fucking hypocrite.
@@patricksusulin9335 his mind was not under his complete control he went crazy because of the magic
@@patricksusulin9335 Always was
@@yourmom6888 no offence but that is exactly why I hate JL batman because the PLOT is always in his side i.e. if the PLOT demands it he is practically immune/counter to any kind of mind control or corruption but at the same time can easily be mind control or corrupt.
@@Markcus003 just tell that you guys just hate Batman and can't bare sight of him at this point. From the last 3 years the batman hate has been unreal can't even see one peaceful discussion without illogically hating on him. Your criticic literally doesn't make any sense. You're upset when he is immune to mind control and you're also upset when he isn't.
"I have a contingency plan, it's called the Justice League" moment
I'm sorry, but even regular Batman could have evaded that last "suprise attack" from Zatanna, especially since Supes yelled out "Now!".
Even if we consider that Batman was caught off guard, because of everything going on (which isn't true, because at that point he was back in fight mode), he would have still tackled her before she had time to chant anything. They should have had an actual speedster do that part.
Dick ride😭
true
Zatanna doesnt need to chant anything anyways, her saying the spell out is just for focus
doesnt superman have super hearing i think he shouldve heard clark say "zaa now" just fine
Magic, I guess
Here’s what people don’t understand. Batman comments on this a lot. The level of power superman has would drive anyone insane. That is part of the magic of kal el, he stays balanced even with this insane powers. In his case absolute power does not corrupt absolutely.
Also people need to stop with this nonsense that superman can’t fight or superman doesn’t train or superman isn’t smart or tactical. It’s nonsense.
Exactly in the batman hush movie when Ivy controls clark to kill Bruce and selina , selina asks Bruce if he can actually take down superman with his kryptonite knuckles. He said that if superman wanted he could have killed them both a long time ago. Deep down Clark is a good person, deep down Bruce is not . A great way to show his self awareness.
@@anosvoldigoat3351 your dumb
@anosvoldigoat3351 I mean Bruce knows he's not a good person at his core, that's why he self imposes so many rules.
You fans are stupid.
The thought of Superman not being able to fight is absolutely mind numbingly stupid. One of his greatest enemies is a literal military general with the same powers as him.
Another one is a giant hulking monster that's arguably stronger and faster than him.
I'm pretty sure that Nightwing is much more of a victim of this than Batman.
Batman is clearly not thinking straight.
Dude breaks all 206 bones in a dudes body who stole from a grandma cuz hes about to go hungry.
I dont think that any amount of powers will make bruce go harder intentionally
Try not to traumatize Batman challenge
Difficulty: *Impossible*
"take out the most dangerous one, first."
😂🤣😂🤣😂
Exactly. Confusing. I guess cuz Diana is the ruthless Warrior. And Supergirl depending on who's writing her it's just powerful but a naive young girl
@@DJ-vk4rpShe may be the most powerful of the group, but she lacks the experience of that of Wonder Woman. And considering Batman now has the powers of a kryptonian, due to her inexperience in fighting in comparison to Wonder Woman, she wouldn't be the most dangerous. Plus Diana would be far more willing to kill than Kara if necessary.
It’s been expressed time and time again that Wonder Woman is the most powerful physically powerful woman in DC. Supergirl has impressive physical attributes, she lacks Wonder Women’s experience, Wonder Woman’s feats are also better.
@@flash2777 super girl is the most powerful woman in DC. As she metabolizes solar radiation even better than superman.
@@noneyabidness9644 That doesn’t make her stronger…Wonder Woman and supergirl have fought before with supergirl being bloodlusted (2x) and they both ended the same, with Wonder Woman being the clear victor. All while holding back I should add.
Where’s Martian Manhunter and Plastic Man? They didn’t even use their OP characters to deal with an outta control Batman.
Probably because they didn't want to ruin the narrative that they even stood a ghost of a chance against superman. Since they've recently decided to replace him with them.
Manhunter can beat most characters by making them forget why they're fighting. Doesn't make for a good show.
@@stevenscott2136imagine if that did happen, the book would be what, 10 pages? Comic fans would be pissed.
@@noneyabidness9644 Well Superman has admitted that he’s scared of Martian Manhunter and that could’ve turned into a whole saga like when they introduced his dark side Furnace (Or however you spell his name). Plastic Man would’ve had Batman submit and produced the same results. Batman has admitted he’s glad Plastic Man is a goofy person.
@@stevenscott2136 Now you know that Batman has plot armor and they just would’ve made his mind some type of labyrinth with failsafes and file cabinets 😂
With Batman's IQ, BIQ, Combat and Skills WITH SUPERMANS POWERS. Aint no one beating Batman 💀💀💀
Bruh, Firestorm could've easily created Kryptonite but Batman's plot armour kicked in
@@WebbedManiacBruce know that And he won't take that chance.If you think that was a plot armor so does Firestorm.
@@hlimpui6645 The point is that they didn't even try using it, when in reality it should've been the first thing anyone thought of.
@@WebbedManiachas firestorm actually used it? Ever?
@@WebbedManiacand if we’re being honest with the amount of ridiculous feats Superman has he should’ve been able to speed blitz them before they could even react
Get ready for the Justice League having to move from the Watch Tower to an old abandoned building in Metropolis.
Dc just hate batman like how marvel hate spiderman this proves that
5:46 "Ruthless and out of character"
Nope. If either Firestar or Lantern or both hadn't been there, Batman would have just clipped her wings. This would still force someone to have to aid her. But the way he did it killed "three" birds with one stone (pun not intended)
So if Batman ever had superman‘s powers he would basically become like injustice superman
It seems so
No he wouldn't
@@kenanf92 I think his actions here speak the truth
@@bman3794 If it did they wouldn't have said that it was affecting his mind. Also Batman has gotten powers on multiple occasions and didn't act that way.
Actually he has or he at least list his humanity when he sat in the mobious chair. Or when he becomes a Vampire.
There have also been a couple of other occasions where Batman couldn't handle he's powers and it makes sense since he always has always had this flawed process of not killing characters like the Joker while when Superman does something similar to his more extreme villains doesn't turn evil.
It's just how it is.
Not too bad. If Bats wasn't acting completely against character... And the change having changed him is nonsense. Bats has ALWAYS been a psycho, you can't watch Joker victims for the 50th time and not decide to just kill him, not know that it IS your fault. If you can stand the knowledge and guilt and carry on then getting Superman's power would do nothing to you.
I though batman fanboys didnt like seeing mirrors
Honestly the fact Joker hasn’t just been executed by Gotham is insane.
@@zxshadowxz In this Batman "funny" comic, the Joker just escaped a fight with Batman and was wandering around. Offing people at random. The he decided to call it a night and went to bed. He wondered on whose bed he would sleep tonight. And he didn't mean on which girlfriend's...
Batman isn't psycho he's just a comic book character. Is Spider-Man psycho for letting Green Goblin live? Is Superman psycho for letting Darkseid live? No they are comic book characters living in comic book worlds. Superheroes will never kill their villains because that villain needs to come back for a future story. Why can't people understand that? It's not rocket science it's very simple.
@@callmejacob3234 spiderman is a kid and batman is an adult.
Dont ask a kid to do adult decisions, he isnt even allowed to drink and you expect him to start blasting? What is wrong with you? If the law deems him unfit enough to drink then he isnt responcible enough to carry a gun.
Batman was weird in this one
Yeah, I'm struggling to think that the author likes Batman if they just have him savage Dick for no reason.
@@if7723kinda good to see it, Nightwing is put on a throne for no reason but being the first sidekick and statements, everyone needs to be humbled sometimes
Batman has always been this sociopathic edgelord though.
This video cut out the context. It was explained that the amulet grants wishes but at a cost. For Batman, it took away his self-control, causing his mind and emotions to be erratic.
Seems like something the Joker would do to Batman just to see him lose his shit.
Batmans plot armor is about 7 dimensions thick at this point.
Hear me out then, since fictional characters being fictional is such a problem stop reading comics…simple better than complaining 😂 goof
@sweatyba11s77then don’t read or watch comic stuff💀 hating on fictional characters is elite brainrot
@@NumaxNinja how about fuck you I'll enjoy what I like how I like.
@@NumaxNinjait ain’t hating as much as it is pointing out facts. Fictional characters are supposed to be entertaining or tell a story, even flawed ones, however when you have a character with plot armor as thick as Batman, every story becomes stale and monotone. Which is why I often stay away from main JL comics.
@@vincentlucario5450who cares if there’s plot armor, Just enjoy it and Stfu, its drawings in a book, rhetorically speaking I could just make a character out of thin air and make him overpowered for no reason.
0:25 this looks hella cool ngl
Batman deep inside is a menace
So basically when it comes down to it. Superman is better disciplined than Batman or unless you’re Superman absolute power corrupts absolutely.
He always had those powers. He was raised to use them well. Batman never had them and hai mid. Couldn't handle sudden power.
Absolute powers corrupts absolutely is such a loser comeback.
DC is a universe with thousands of celestials with “absolute power”. And just like humans are varies, celestials are varied as well. Some good and some bad.
Corrupts absolutely is just a generalizing speck of a thought. Truth is, there would be just as much diversity, and just as much good and bad as with regular mortals.
Also, Superman is not some pinnacle of moral authority either. The guy is entirely “status quo”, which, as the quote goes “for the triumph of evil, good people should do nothing”….. it just does not work.
What?? Superman was born with it therefore it wasn't a big deal for him
Lucifer Morningstar is the perfect example of why the absolute power argument doesn’t hold any weight, guy simply doesn’t cate
No.power doesn't corrupt. It reveals.
At the end of the day batman is just a kid with who misses his parents. It hurts to see that cause when I was a kid my mom who was my only parent at the time abandoned me and left me in a house alone so she could move to new jersey with a guy she met on a dating app that sense of loneliness is crippling and its why I look up to batman because of the shared experience of loneliness and it hurts my heart when that trauma is used against him
ayo squared. CUBED! in fact...
Ha! Hawkgirl went and got Hawkman's mace! It's so big she has to sit it on her shoulder
His point about Superman whining about wanting his powers back is the same essential grievance most stories have about the circular lack of accountability. People for instance balk and mistreat each other and the earth all the time but when Galactus or some other planet-ending force comes ready to wipe us out we're suddenly on our best behavior, screaming at the tops of our lungs about how humanity deserves to live.
Ppl that are shocked at Batman's behavior clearly don't know the character that well. Their is a jealous streak in him when it comes to Superman, and the powers amplify what was always there.
Every time Batman gets powers he instantly becomes evil
That isn't true at all.
Wrong actually he's had Superman's powers before when he was off planet and didn't tweak out
Truth is the writers had to put Batman back to the status quo so that's why he doesn't be as op as he can be
To be fair, in this story, the spell was affecting his mental state.
The only reason he became "evil" in this was because the magical amulet took his self-control away in exchange.
Everytime Batman gets Powers he goes a little evil
No he doesn't. This video cut out the context of how the magic amulet took away Batman's self-control.
@3:57 Wonder Woman standing on business. 😂😂😂
Kinda disappointed Batman didn’t get beaten. Like I can understand if he actually does something smart, but the people that fly intergalactic distances through space forgetting to turn on their oxygen while in space is stupid and makes Batman look stupid by proxy. A better fight and outcome would have been them capturing him and Batman finding a way to escape while sabotaging their ability to further chase him.
Batman is plot armor itself
@@SkitSkat8008that’s pathetic excuse when he has Superman powers and the 2nd best fighter in Dc😂
Cry about it, he’s the 2nd best Fighter in Dc and had Superman powers obviously he wins😂 who logically beats that? No one but prime Superman or Dr.Manhattan
@@NumaxNinja yeah exactly PLOT ARMOR. You batman fans are so deranged mr "batman always wins" no matter what. Its bad character design
@@NumaxNinja I don't know. maybe the people who have experience using super powers for their whole lives. logically Bruce shouldn't know how to make most effective use of his abilities. still fighting like a ground locked regular person rather than someone with with 3d movement. not to mention against firestorm and Zatanna who should be able to deal with superman powers easily.
it boils down to plot and that's about it really.
I thought about that....how STRATEGIC BRUCE IS ALONG WITH ALL THAT POWER, with a twisted mind set.
There was a story that explained that if Batman ever used magic or any super power for that matter, he would turn evil. This is a prime example of that
I don't really understand that though. Batman has enough will power and mental strength to not give in to killing anyone, but as soon as he gets powers, he becomes evil and kills people and stuff
@@thesithofearth3617 Some people are just incompatible with certain changes to them or their environment. A diease could kill people, but some can survive, if thag makes sense. Or you can say, power is his weakness
@@thesithofearth3617 Batman’s mental health is fragile as hell.
He has lots and lots and lots of issues.
This is batman affected via magic
@@lag00n54 Exactly
On the other hand. I feel like exchanging blows with him is how you be friends with Batman.
He was around 10 when his parents were killed, it took 20 years or so to become Batman. My question 20 years, Alfred didn’t think about a therapist for Bruce??
Alfred sounds like an enabler. 😅
Even if Alfred did think about, Bruce can either deny it, not cooperate with it
Baby Bruce was probably being a lil shit so Alfred couldn’t do anything lol
Bruce was ten, he wasn’t a toddler. Alfred didn’t have to toss into a medical facility right away. But when Bruce hit 6’4” and 245. Spending millions on those wonderful toys a couple sessions might have helped
Bruce is so smart and puts so much effort into learning everything, he never actually bothered to deal with his trauma and study more on his own mental health and try to get over it.
Supergirl: “we can do this the easy way or 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐝 𝐰𝐚𝐲😡“
*2 min later
“Wait wait wait wait ✋🤚….
“Green Lanterns can’t create oxygen on their own.”
He says as two Green Lanterns are floating in space without oxygen, like they do every other day.
Silver Banshee tho 😳😳
1 Superman is waaaay more powerful than even the other Super powered heroes and 2 Batman is unmatched in skill and martial prowess, what a combo
Depends on the universe
Except Diana. She's the most powerful JL member.
@@S_N1. all your comments are the same npc line
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus 💀🙏 cmon she's a demi Goddess n he's an alien
@mommatthew2756 if we were jokin but we aren't. It's wonder woman then Superman
As a quick translation, at 9:34 Zatana says “Break the lock of desire! Free this wayward soul! Free my friend!”
the powers enhanced his own mental illnesses.
It sure did
It didn't.
Superman: " Batman, we don't exist to solve the worlds problems. What will Gotham do when the Wayne's hang up Batman for many centuries?"
it would be really cool for them to adapt this plot line to the dcu
But they gotta do it right... Otherwise it might not show Batman in a good light.
@@TheRevenantEdits what if his reasoning is all the pent up anger of being the ONLY non superpowered league member
okay it would'nt do the story justice, i just thought it be funny
@@mekiherring2088 LOL
Tho I think that would work best as a non Batman story
Or if a younger Batman with was in the League somehow
@@mekiherring2088he's far from the only one without superpowers. And isn't he the type to gloat that he doesn't need powers to beat them?
Superman’s power and Batman’s brain would be a lethal combination.
1:28 shittiest take ever
Yep, it was such an illogical theory.
He deliberately cut out the context of how Superman and Zatanna found Silver Banshee and the amulet. Finding out that the amulet grants wishes but at a cost. For Batman, it was to take away his self-control. Causing his mind and emotions to become erratic.
This title put a SMILE on my face and then he started and GOD DAMMIT!!
Personally I wish the story line would have focused more on Batman and Wonder Woman going hand to hand more now that there closely equal in power. . Between both their fighting skills that should easily be it’s story of its own.
nah, he has supes abilities
They're not equal. Superman is far stronger than Wonder Woman. Even Batman has said that Wonder Woman is the best hand to hand fighter in the League.
So if they were equal in power levels then Wonder Woman would win.
@@WebbedManiac I didn’t mention Superman. Also Batman had also said Lady Shiva was second to none and he still takes her on. Even if Wonder Woman is the best at hand to hand Batman is the best strategist and tactician. Superman called Batman the most dangerous man on earth and that’s without powers.
@@IbriyGad Yeah but if it's a full 1v1 Gladiator style match then Wonder Woman has a higher chance of winning.
Again, according to Batman she's "the best melee fighter in the league". Lady Shiva is dangerous cause she's also a master assassin, but Wonder Woman is 100% head-on combat focused from top to bottom.
Her contingency plan literally includes putting her in an illusion where she's fighting an opponent of equal skill because nobody in the League is as skilled as her.
@@IbriyGad he said that in the context of a "MAN" on the "EARTH" not the most dangerous there is on earth.
I really like the story, but I think some of the characters should be replaced with someone else. Wonder Woman is by far more experienced than anyone else, she would have been expecting a blow, and would have deflected it. Supergirl is just as strong, fast and able, would have been more of a fight. Firestorm could have created a red sun , green lanterns could have created constructs to occupy Batman while the others restricted him. The golden magic lasso has the power to command anyone who is caught by it. Wonder Woman has fought Superman many times, and others that are as powerful and more powerful, she knows every form of hand to hand combat. The story is good, but the characters need to be swapped out.
Batman is not a kryptonians he's immune to kryptonite and red sun
This is in it's own way one of Batman's greatest fears. If he ever had a choice in the matter he'd never want Superman's powers because he knows better than anyone that he'd turn out like this. He's well aware of the corruptive influence of power on the minds of men, and he's also well aware of how ambiguously he walks on the line of going too far even without powers. It's also a big part of the reason he respects Superman as much as he does. Batman would be the very first person to admit that Superman is a better person than him, the only person he'd ever admit it for. It takes someone as genuinely good natured deep down as Superman to handle the massive burden of responsibility his power brings.
Kinda, but no. Batman became crazy with power because the magical amulet took away all of his self-control. Causing his mind and emotions to become erratic. The amulet grants wishes but at a cost.
@@tsnoob4669 It's not mutually exclusive. In this specific instance it was because of a magic amulet that takes control and corrupts people, but the mainline Batman knows full well that if he were to actually gain Superman's powers without such an amulet that he'd eventually misuse them anyway.
It's a big part of why he doesn't have super powers already. He's fully aware of a number of different methods he could use to gain super powers, he'd hardly be the first normal human to suddenly become super in his world. He deliberately doesn't do it because he knows he's already dangerous enough without powers. He knows how important it is to keep contingency plans for the event in which any member of the League goes rogue, including himself. Adding powers to his already impressive arsenal of gadgets and genius level improvisational and strategic capabilities in addition to him being a master of every known form of martial arts on the planet and knowing everyone else's weaknesses would simply be overkill for the other members of the league to deal with.
@@Crow_Rising That's not it, though. The reason why he doesn't get superpowers is because he would be too reliant on them. Eventually, they would get taken away. The other reason is that writers don't want to break the core characteristics of not having superpowers.
Wonder Woman needs an upgrade in powers. Here’s why, if she has to go toe to toe with kryptonian powers; she should have more than a lasso to make the fight interesting. This doesn’t mean that she could necessarily win but have a better advantage. DC tends to make Diana too weak in comparison to Superman’s strength most of the time.
But she is a better fighter tho, superman might be stronger but he hasn't been a trained warrior since a kid. Even tho I do agree sometimes she could be buffed up, she is OP in DCeased, check it out
She should be stronger than any kryptonian but should be weaker than Superman.
@@LoWisR0511As far as i remember, she was always considered little weaker in terms of raw strength, but compensated with being faster and more "agile" than him. At least that's how i interpreted their powersets.
In the end their are near-equals when it comes to physical traits, but she is waaaaaaaay more skilled than him.
@HanithSVK No. Not true. He is so fast that he lives a thousand years every second. He has less battle experience. But he is not lacking in time to think. He can consider rather than relying on muscle memory and training.
Superman's power varies wildly depending on his solar charge. I recall one story where she told him there was something out near Pluto that needed his attention, and when he came back, he was sufficiently weakened by the long flight and lack of sunlight that she almost beat him.
The voice kept calling me Bruce thats not what o call myself
"hero acts like a villain but ACKSHULLY they're a victim because they can't control themselves" has to be one of the most tiresome tropes in modern media.
The Batfans will go crazy if Batman goes rogue without this kind of excuses.
This video cut out the context. It was explained that the amulet grants wishes but at a cost. For Batman, it took away his self-control, causing his mind and emotions to be erratic.
as tiresome as robots rising up against humans?
Pretty sure in the latest comics? The ones where It goes through batmans training one of his teachers were like "nope you dont get magic, People like you never end up doing good" heavily summarised but this comic kind of proves it
The Knight series explained that in order to use magic, Batman needed to let go of something, not just his "darkness." Zatara explained that either he let go of his "darkness" or he let go of all the skills and everything he worked for, so far at that point, in order to master magic.
Zatara knew he wouldn't let go of his skills, that's why he refused. If he does, he would be left with nothing but his "darkness" and drive from his parent's death.
This comic doesn't prove it because the context of how Batman is going crazy was cut out. Superman and Zatanna found Silver Banshee and the amulet. It's revealed that the amulet grants wishes but at a cost. For Banshee, she gets a new body, but the amulet caused the new body to rapidly age to an old lady. To the point that she's too weak to take off the amulet. For Batman, the amulet took away his self-control. Causing his mind and emotions to become erratic. This is why he was so emotional when he saw his parents. This is how Superman and Zatanna took advantage of Batman's lack of control to lower his guard.
Anyone else wonder why wasn't the Martian Manhunter in on this goodness?
Because he would have clowned on Batman.
He's playing chess with Green Arrow and Hawkman, none of them wanted the smoke so they sit back and watch it all play out, they kew things would get back to normal. 😂
Either Manhunter or Plastic Man would no diff him into oblivion so the writers had to write them out
@@vegetacultminorityhunter Then Batman would not help him pay his rent. Let's be real here Batman is the sugar daddy of the Justice League. Without him the League would be homeless.
@@callmejacob3234 yeah right, Jon has his own job as a detective
The thought of a high iq skilled fighter having the powers of superman actually terrifies me
This is 1 of my favorite Batman Superman stories. 👍🏼💯
Pretty impressive how they talk it out in the vacum of space...
Batman went off the deep end and shouldnt have powers.
He didn't go crazy intentionally. The amulet took away his self-control.
Idk but I love it when Batman gets super powers he’s either the Best Super Hero Ever or He’s the Big Bad Guy there’s no in between and I love it.
Batman with superman powers would definitly make his insanity higher
No it wouldn't.
1:10 Clark is such a good friend omg man. W
Can you leave comic names in the description please thank you
You got it! I’ve been slacking with the descriptions, thanks for the reminder lol. Hope you enjoyed watching!
@@TheHeroInformer Thank you for the videos. Keep up the good work ❤
Wow some awesome deep points.
~Batman reminding HalJordan The greatest willpower Lantern
"My Will is miles beyonf your comprehension" is not
only harsh but accurate.. Ouch!
~~Same thing about him spending his whole life being Batman where SUperman
takes time off alot because he wants to human.
Also accurate & harsh.Ouch 2.0...
~~Can we agree "Last Night on Earth" is the quintisential(sp)
best dark future Batman??
Dude uses every Meta Human as batteries of some kind.
He skinned Cheetah. Used Martian Mahunter & Aqauaman as Psychic
weapons & security,,,,relocated Wayne Manor on top of WayneTower..
~Reminds me of Alex Ross GOAT storyline "JUSTICE"
where LexLuthor & Brainiac use GorillaGrodd to give ALL villains nightmares
of JusticeLeague being the death of em all.
So they use The AToms shrink tech, Along with the ring batteries,,
Toymans tech mixed w/(i forget),,
Aquamans telepathy to manipulate & defeat Grodd,,
Turning WW back into Clay(lol),
I like storylines that use all the DC universe like Injustice did(comic)...
Lex never counted on Shazam. He/they ignored SHazam because
he's useless af lol...They the machinemen. i forget what they are called.
The robots w/ the letters on em by Ivo.. Man the League hid inseide em..
Alex Ross is awesome!
If you haven't read 'JUSTICE' AND can't find it= i'll share a digital copy.
Zatana be wearing those fishnets.
mmmm
That’s why Batman’s contingency plan is the justice league
Back when amazing art was the norm and not the exception.
some new stuff looks llike they put a bunch of filters over a shitty 3d animation.
Gotta love that my theory holds true.
His own trauma's amplified what he holds back.
Supes FTW
It was explained in the comics that the amulet took away all of Batman's self-control. Causing his mind and emotions to be erratic. Which is why he was so emotional when he saw his parents.
Batman is always right and did nothing wrong.
Batman needs no powers. He is the man there is. The only one. He would beat Darkseid,Thanos,Galactus and God together with one hand tied behind his back and his eyes blindfolded. Its not even possible to outsmart him because he is a brilliant master detective with an IQ higher than Einsteins,he knows everything,he is master skilled in crime psychology,he is a high skilled forensic,he has experience as a master surgeon,he is a more than skilled racing driver,he can fly planes,helicopters and drive submarines. Beside this he is an outstanding hand-to-hand-combattant (even Bruce Lee would take lessons from him),skilled in quite every weapon there is,he is skilled in military tactics and he knows what to do because he is Batman. End of irony but Batman is ridiculous. Seriously. Dare to tell me again that Superman is overpowered.
Classic batman fan LMFAO, superman would stomp him.
3:56 it won’t be enough, for all Clark’s powers one thing he was always lacking was martial skills Bruce on the other hand trained with the best fighters the earth has to make himself the best at almost everything, he even devoted time to learn how to learn so he could learn faster add that to superman’s powers and I think the only one that stands a chance is Wonder Woman as she is also trained to about the same level as Bruce (I actually love that in JLU Bruce and WW were helping to train Clark to fight as been the strongest guy in the room is fine but when your fighting people on the same level you need more than just Kryptonian powers).
A power corrupts story and interesting that it’s Batman who is the corrupted one.
Power corrupts story is horrible choice of Batman out of everyone the guy with mental defenses and has magic and superpowers at the cave always completely available to him it makes no sense
It wasn't a power corrupts story. The amulet responsible for all of this took away all of Batman's self-control. The uploaded deliberately cut out the context of how Superman and Zatanna found out how the amulet grants wishes but comes at a cost. This is more of a monkey's paw story.
Just a reminder that Firestorm needs to know the chemical structure of an object before making it. So he can't just make Kryptonite unless he knows EXACTLY how it is made, like Momo from mha
Like Qubit
What a missed opportunity to have Superman bath in a synthetic lazarus pit made specifically to restore Batman’s consciousness imprinting Bruce’s training and fighting style onto Clark for a small fight
"Superman show how much of a hero he is going out without his powers! He could be killed"... like everyday for Batman? Nightwing? Green arrow?
So he goes out one time without powers, with one of the most powerful magic user of the world, and this shows how much of a hero he is? Cmon...
But he's going after Banshee. You know like Batman did at the start of this.
Yes, really. Because he didn't even have batman skills or training at that time.
@@if7723 Except he didn't do anything. Zatanna did all of the work. Banshee was stuck as an old lady because the amulet grants wishes but comes with a cost. It gave her a body, but it ages her. So Zatanna used her magic to release her, and she left. While Superman is standing to the side doing nothing.
It seems that if Batman ever had powers he would let them go to his head and act like a real Batdick psycho! See that's why Superman has always handled those powers better than he can obviously. Also when Bats beat Clark like that he disrespected him saying these powers are wasted on you cause you mostly focus on being a normal person living a normal life when you should ALWAYS focus on stopping crime like I do. See that was really rude and that's why I don't like Batman these recent days being such an arrogant rude selfish Batdick who doesn't know what real feelings are anymore being so unbalanced.
You just typed a whole bunch of nothing.
@@tajaymais9 No those are true facts.
@@tajaymais9 it's written in this comic dude . Read it . Batman was a dick to superman
@@tajaymais9 and you said also NOTHING.
This story was taken out of context. The uploaded deliberately cut out the part where Superman and Zatanna found Silver Banshee in her new body with the magic amulet. They found out that the amulet grants wishes but at a cost. For Banshee, it gave her a new body, but it aged her, causing her to be too weak to take it off. For Batman, it took away all of his self-control, causing his mind and emotions to be erratic. You would knownthis if you actually read the comics, instead of relying on videos. This happened in Superman/Batman issues 53-56.
Like Superman couldnt think of taking out everyone either!? Lol
see Clark Kent is nothing without his power while Bruce, in the other hand is the real deal without or with superpower
Batman is nothing without his money lol
@abhinav2500 One reason why Bruce was in the league of the assassin. money = power, & Ras' al ghul wanted Bruce to be his successor he would've alot of money by another way
@@tiwill0709 Dude how do you think Batman found the League in the first place? Because of his money.
If he didn't have money he wouldn't have been able to travel the world for his training. So Ra's Al Ghul would never have known about Bruce Wayne.
@@WebbedManiac He's still an expert martial artist and hand to hand combatant as well as a brilliant detective the money just makes him cooler
Green kryptonite radiation is poisonous to Superman, but it doesn't necessarily deprives him of powers, although it interfers with his cells ability to absorb metabolise sunlight.
Red sun radiation deprives him of the sunlight he needs, but he still has some power left. The more he uses his powers under a red sun, the faster he deplets his reserves. Night and darkness affects him the same way, btw.
Blue kryptonite shuts down his cells ability to absorb and metabolise sunlight as long as he keeps it on his person.
In some DC Comic books, Silver K mutates baseline human physiology into kryptonian, granting them permanent Kryptonian powers.
Red K has unpredictible effects, but a lot of the time it shuts down inhibitions.
Light from a dwarf star supercharges a kryptonian.
And I haven't even gotten to the BIZARRO variants
The old saying power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
And the most asinine saying ever.
Truth is, there would be just as much variety and flavors to power just as there is diversity to individuals.
Just like there were many emperors, kings etc throughout history. Some good, some bad, some competent, some not.
It is more so that people are not willing or are not comfortable to think of some higher power (aka god) that is not 100% human-serving, selfless, personality-less, slave and does anything and all to aid humans… being good.
People expect perfection from higher power… but the notion of what that perfection/good is.. is very very limited and human-centric.
Likewise, making an argument that “god that does not favor humans is evil”….. is very very very egotistic and self-centered view on morals.
What happens if humanity’s extinction is deemed objectively good from the perspective of the universe? That a universe without humans would be far far more balanced and peaceful.
People would lose their shit, that is what.
They want a “feel good” god, that does everything to make THEIR life be better, doing nothing to affect their life negatively AND does not interfere in any capacity with normal/human-established order of things. Which is just a BS contradiction.
@kingol4801 not really. The curr ent state of things in Washington D.C. is the best proof of just how accurate that statement is. Sadly it's not the only one on this planet.
Which doesn't apply here if you know the full context of the story. Superman and Zatanna found Silver Banshee and the magic amulet. They found out that the amulet grants wishes, but it comes with a cost. For Banshee, it gives her a new body, but it aged her to an old lady. To the point that she's too weak to take off the amulet. For Batman, it took away all of his self-control. Causing his mind and emotions to become erratic.
batsuit with superman logo go crazy
When superman finally tried to permanently stop crime Batman loses his mind.
When Batman got superman's powers he immediately berates superman for not using his powers for more.
this guy is just a fucking mess. I have no Idea why people worshiped batman that much.
probably because most people are also fucking messes.
Wow it's almost like they're different stories by different writers
Idiot
This video cut out the most important part of the story. Batman didn't go crazy because of the powers. He went crazy because the amulet took away all of his self-control. It didn't show how Superman and Zatanna found out how the amulet is able to grant wishes, but it would come at a cost.
There is this thing called will, in every d&d game ever. Batman automatically critical hits on everything. Tehe.
So basically "Girls get it done"
Only if they're Super.
Batman doesn’t need powers to beat up the entire Justice League at once! Why? Because he’s Batman!
;-)
Except he does. Or tech, he needs the tech at least
This story reminded me of some of the old stories from the 50s and 60s, but much more brutal, reflecting modern day sentiments about violence.
I don't get why most of you guys don't CLEARLY tell us which books these stories can be found.....No I actually DO, " understand" but its frustrating, because if its supposed to get our interest, then people would Naturally want to read the book, too.
The name of this comic series starts at Batman/Superman issue 53! It’s also in the description if ever need to refer back to it.
But you’re right, I’ll start referring to the book name in the actual video in the future
@@TheHeroInformer Thanks Brother, Have no idea how many times these channels have made me order the books. Ive got thousands, but when its characters I like, doing something pivotal....and I DIDNT know about......Im in. Thanks. Subbed.
the story doesn't make sense.
superman's "powers" to us are like a fish looking at a monkey climb a tree. monkeys don't have powers, they have arms, legs and appendages at the end of these for grasping. climbing a tree is no more a power for a monkey than punching through a planet is for superman.
the magic made superman human and made batman a kryptonian. think of giving a fish a monkey's body and a monkey a fish's... that's what happened.
that doesn't make sense.
however long it took to learn to walk -- that's the type of learning you'd have to go through in order to know how to do the simplest things like, for superman, breathing without hyperventilating (ifkyk).
I always enjoy any DC story.
"Power corrupts...and absolute power corrupts absolutely"
Which doesn't apply to this within the context. The amulet took away all of Batman's self-control. Causing his mind and emotions to become erratic.
Superman with a different outfit was a nice change. He's no longer looking like Cool aid man. He also isn't looking like some super patriot for America. He actually looks like a threat to someone.
All Superman needs to do is go to the north pole where the crystal cavern is go into the cryptonite capsule useing different cryptonite crystals to give him his power back as Superman , Superman has and knows all of cryptonite crystals if Superman wants to he can make justice leauge superjustice leauge
Sorry le
Sorry league is how you spell the word justice league thank you
All Batman really was doing was flying around saving people 24/7 and the other hero’s started hating
And put Nightwing in a coma
4:22 Nightwing: You need the power of sunlight.
Batman: Think Mark, think!
Nightwing: You know I'm Dick Grayson not Mark Grayson right?
Batman: Think Bruce, think!
Wonder Woman would never jump Batman
Well..
JLA: Alfred, talk sense into Batman. Tell him to turn himself in or we'll have to do it by ourselves.
Alfred. Lmao good luck
Lmao he beat up Nightwing, his son. You're crazy if you think Alfred could talk him down.
@@WebbedManiac and batman took the entire league down himself, your point??
@@IAmSuperVegito My point is that you're crazy if you think that this Batman would ever listen to Alfred.
@@WebbedManiac Are you dumb? That's literally what I just said with my original comment. League telling Alfred to talk Batman down and Alfred telling them "good luck with that". To a person with a single brain cell will imply that Alfred said "he's not gonna listen". Wish people online were half as smart as a hedgehog so they could read.
@abhinav2500 I think he would listen, he just wouldn't agree.