So Captan Atom was depressed and decided to ascend to godhood by killing the world’s most powerful heroes? That’s so cool!!!! I was tired of him just exploding.
It seems like Atom basically underwent the same thing Deadpool did during Deadpool kills the marvel universe. Basically gains a perspective or glimpse of the outside universe (whats past the 4th wall) and goes completely nuts.
@@francisconavarro4251 I don't really think Atom is more powerful in this story. I think the key thing people forget about most super heroes (with the exception of superman or plastic man) is that they are significantly more powerful then they let on. They only hold back out of fear they'll hurt or kill anyone. This is why i said its probably something similar to Deadpool kills the marvel universe. Atom goes nuts after seeing the world behind the pages and stop holding back. Atom's always been capable of doing the things hes done in this story. Hes just never done it because heroes don't kill. Now he kills. So now he uses his power to the fullest extent of his imagination because hes no longer holding back, and possibly been revealed to by another party that he can do even more then he previously thought. That broken nose superman gave him in this story? Superman could have easily torn his head off if it wasn't for him holding back. Superman holds back though because superman doesn't kill. Atom effortlessly tore superman apart because he wasn't holding back (using his power to the fullest extent)
Finally a Captain Atom story where he’s not just self destructing! Kingdom Come, Dceased, Injustice, Infinite Frontier, DC vs Vampires… probably more I’ve forgotten too 😂
So Tom King just went full Tom King all over Captain Atom. Yaaaay. For the record, Captain Atom IS powerful, but ever since he was used as the template for Dr. Manhattan, people have kept trying to turn him into discount Dr. Manhattan. Which is not what Captain Atom is about. Captain Atom was called that because his original powers were due to atomic radiation, and it turned him into a guy who was superstrong, durable, could fly, survive without air, phase through matter and fire atomic energy blasts. He wasn't a matter manipulator, he was Charlton Comic's answer to Superman, but with a few quirks such as being a military man and having to have his body coated in a metallic material to contain the radiation his body emitted when he was powered up. Later, DC changed it so that his body was coated with an alien metal that allowed him to tap into this other dimensional energy source called the Quantum realm, which made him superstrong, nigh-invulnerable, let him fly, survive without food or water, fire energy blasts, absorb energy, detect energy, and a few other tricks. He generally wasn't as strong/tough as Superman, but was close enough to make a fight of it, and had more powerful energy related abilities. The JLU version of Captain Atom was more or less a pure energy being in a containment suit. This version was made noticeably weaker than Superman, to the point that using Red Solar radiation didn't truly even the odds, as Superman had a pretty decisive victory. Then we had the whole mess with the Post Infinite Crisis takes on Captain Atom where he was the Monarch, but then he was a Dr. Manhattan knock off, but then he was his old self, and they basically couldn't agree on anything. The Nu-52 version made it even worse. This story sounds like Tom King more or less taking some of the worst takes on Nate, the idea of him being a Dr. Manhattan knock off disconnected from humanity, being some all powerful matter and energy manipulator, and then using him to air out his own various issues and do his usual deconstructive storytelling. Captain Atom isn't really supposed to be some kind of all powerful, Dr. Manhattan like entity (and people forget that Manhattan wasn't all powerful either, and only seemed godlike because he was the only superhero in his world). Captain Atom was supposed to be more akin to someone like War Machine, USAgent and other heroes who were aligned with the US government and military, and the conflict would come from his personal morality versus his orders at the time. He was strong and tough, but at least one tier below Superman strong and tough. He was more powerful and versatile than Superman when it came to energy powers, and between his other powers he was perfectly fine as someone who was both a hero and someone who could go toe-to-toe with other high powered heroes to keep them in check.
"I never realized how powerful Captain Atom was...." I always assumed he was more or less equivalent to Dr. Manhattan. Because DC wouldn't let Morrison use pre-existing characters for Watchmen.
I mean he’s strong but he’s never been written like this before. Basically everyone has a story out there that makes them seem like the strongest to ever exist.. this is just that kind of story for CA
@@ShawnArroyo-o2z maybe. But I don't think this is supposed to be centered around the Justice League and it's a Black Label elseworld. I think it's just going to shed light on how powerful he and others really are.
Wonder Woman: Okay, What's your point? Shazam: doesn't justify mass murder Dr.fate: fate Decrees your mind is consumed by chaos. Mr. Miracle: seconded, it's not that special Big barda: seconded, now fall.
@@carlosvega4612tbh he does, he can’t take to much energy at once all Batman would have to do it just buy a ton of nuclear power or just invent a enegery bomb that just exploits atom
This is the nerfed version of Jenny Sparks. In fact DC had tô nerf a lot of characters from the Authority. So the other ones don't seems useless near them.
The whole justice league is nerfed here too. The flash, superman, Wonder woman, Martian manhunter, green lantern. Normally these heroes are beyond the powers of atom manipulation.
That’s because she’s a discount of multiple characters. The writer doesn’t have a single creative bone in their body. This is just regurgitated bs from other comics. Seriously. 🤦♂️
@@pathkeepers nah, original Jenny actually had her own personality. This is just Tom King doing what he does best: completely ignoring established character to do whatever he wants and tell his fanfic
Captain Atom’s and Superman’s powersets are similar in terms of physics. The difference is that Superman has more cells inside him, whereas in Atom’s case it is just the shell and raw energy within. Superman and Atom absorb nuclear/solar energy similarly, but Superman has just a much more consistently higher energy battery capacity to go around. So, especially on days when Superman is not basking on the surface of the sun casually, Atom can put up a fight….. not win, but definitely give Clark run for his money.
There are some heroes in the DC universe so op, that the DC universe is fortunate they choose to be heroes. Firestorm, Swamp Thing, Metamorpho, Plastic Man, Constantine and Dr Fate just to name a few. Captain Atom is way up there with all of them. Easy.
Manhattan was different. Actually was an educated and well adjusted person who was then throw into something that he barely could conceive.. Time. Atom is a soldier with superpowers with no basis of understanding them.
Yeah, he's a tank. Historically, he's DC's Adam Brashear if he weren't a genius, too. I know this is turning out to portray him like Dr. Manhattan, but he's more often level headed and reserved.
@@kcopara1different interpretations of characters. Just because a character beats a specfic version of a character doesn't mean he beats ALL versions of that character. And I mean that regardless of which ones your discussing.
This is a badass story so far, but I’m a little concerned that the ending will just be a hand wavy “he changed his mind and resurrected everyone!” I hope they find a more interesting way to end it.
That would be such a headache because which versions of which characters do you include? Yes, all history is now canon, everyone's history was restored, but power levels still varied between eras. Then are we going to include Vertigo? DC Black label? Wildstorm (pre-New 52 merger), Because there goes 99% of the list. Honestly no one in the main continuity JL (even full extended roster) makes it.
So for DC it wouldn't be a hierarchy bc for writers and fans batman has prep time so he's number 1 and can beat God's, oh superman is number 1 even tho he was killed by doomsday, oh Manhattan is number 1 even tho he had his power taken by a crazy version of batman. Wonder woman has an actual winning record against fighting superman so she can be number 1. DC is a joke when it comes to a power scale bc it's nonexistent.
@@danhenley2065 fair, but you could make the same point about Marvel. The Living Tribunal is the second most powerful character but has lost to just about everyone at this point. TOAA has become TOAA only when it’s convenient. It seems Dr. Doom and Reed Richards are Marvel’s Batmen and could beat anyone with prep time, etc etc. but Rob has still covered Marvel. A couple of times now.
@kylecollins3755 that's bc there still an assemblance of a hierarchy... I've been reading since the beginning of the 1990s and the only time I can remember LT losing not being replaced but losing is the beyonders. But Rob just did the list again it's still LT at the top where he belongs with oblivion and for me the phoenix should be tied for 2nd bc even the watcher said in one story the phoenix is 2nd to none but OAA. For dc it's way way different bc there are over 40 different versions of superman alone and some of them are reality warping some how. Then superboy prime is immune to reality warping... marvel as always had the hierarchy down pretty good, they will just add new players and they find the spot like legion, franklin and molecule man.
@@sovereign-of-scars4372 Doctor Fate is a awesome character. I don't care what the plot or writers say superman's powers are finite while Captain Atom gets his powers from the quantum field, Captain Marvel(Shazam) and Doctor Fate are pure magical beings. The quantum field and magic are both infinite
Same. Those are my 2 favorites too. Captain Marvel being my most favorite. Not the new version where he’s an adult with the mind of a punk kid, but the old version where he’s an adult with a child’s heart.
J'onn controls literally every molecule in his body so on some level he has matter manipulation too. Also he is physically stronger than captain atom, so is superman.
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It's actually the other way around. DC wouldn't let him kill the characters they just got from Charleston comics. So he just made other versions of a bunch of them. Owl Man is the blue beetle, the question became Rorschach, and Captain Atom transmuted into Dr. Manhattan.
His molecular manipulation isn’t anything near molecule man’s. Molecule man is basically a multiversal level matter manipulator, jm pretty sure he’s a straight up reality warper because of how good his matter manipulation is.
@ThePlayer4our I feel like none of them really reacted to anyone dying, Supes had no reaction to his close friends dying?! The only reaction I saw was Batman yelling about the daughter at the end but it could be just cut around.
Who even knows this guy. He doesn't even bother to put on pants. Anybody who likes this guy better than Batman shows that they probably don't wear pants either.
Manhunter is basically invulnerable, wonder, woman is immortal, it takes way more force to punch through Superman and the flash runs faster than the speed of light. Also, I’ve seen Green Lantern stop giant nuke like explosions
@@davidselawsky6620are you seriously coping that hard 😂 he’s a dude that can control matter. He disintegrates Superman atom by atom instantly with zero effort realistically
Captain Atom can literally punch through Superman with minimal effort and less force using red sun or kryptonite radiation which he can produce easily.
No, in physics, "intangible things" are not considered matter because matter is defined as anything that has mass and occupies space, and intangible things by definition lack a physical presence and cannot be measured in terms of mass or volume.
There are different kinds of intangible spiritual(gentleman ghost), dimensional(phantom girl), energy(Monica Rambeau) , vibrational(flash), hologram(shard) and mass shifting Mmh is just mass shifting and still can be affected by matter manipulation cuz his mass is still there but just spread out way more
The nerf on flash and superman in this was kinda annoying as well. But they've always had their power levels conveniently reduced when needed i guess (especially flash).
Daaaamn, it reminds me Rob that how many times I was commenting on your channel loooong long time ago many years ago to do a video about Captain Atom I'm glad people are recognising this Dope Hero Thanks Rob
So it’s DC’s version of Dr. Manhattan, that has lost his humanity and has a whole MiracleMan arc with a sideways tinge like Jamie Braddock from the Excalibur comic, in one DC Elseworld series in a DC Black Mature Title.
So is Erika and her friend gods masquerading as humans? Cuz they are pretty calm watching captain atom kill the justice league......having a full blown convo about movies and tic tac toe. Than captain atom politely asks if its his turn?
I paused and checked the comments when he said that. There is in fact a huge difference between doing something for a reason or doing so without cause. Especially to kill.. Especially, especially a person. Its the difference between a serial killer and a war hero ffs
That’s why he said it was close but still not the same. Matter manipulation, according to rob, doesn’t “break” the laws of physics. If an item has 50 atoms, whatever he changes it too has to have 50 atoms… caveat is that he can pull atoms from anywhere. Reality manipulation- you can create atoms out of thin air. Slightly difference but a difference nonetheless
Curious. How would he (This version of Captain Atom) fair against Superman Prime, Superman 1 Million, All-Star Superman, Strange Visitor Superman (SVS), The Most powerful of them all...Drum roll...COSMIC ARMOR SUPERMAN.
@@Aaayyyeeee214... Captain Atom could turn the Earth Atmosphere into 9th Metal instantly... 💥 Flash can breath, move or so anything. The world is a Tomb. Plus captain atom can blow up the whole universe if he wanted to. Gone. Read his 2005-06 series.
@@brianmccann666 that's captain atom when the writers let him take center stage. Go look at what the flash and superman can do when the writers give them the spotlight. The flash is so fast he's basically omnipresent and superman has ignored high level reality warping (which includes matter manipulation) and resists hax(s)(the current main superman resisted being turned into salt). Superman once overpowered a beam fired from a girl that was channeling all of matter,energy, dimensions and magic in all reality from all points of time with his heat vision alone. Again my comment says what they can normally do, but even when it's stories where they are the main focus they all overtake what captain atom can do with the same spotlight.
Captain Atom can be Lucifer Morningstar level if the writers wanted him to be such. There's literally no limits to what he can or can't do since he was created to weird the most broken power ever, powered logic energy manipulation. Characters like Supes or Flash or Green Lantern need mcguffians from energy sources Cap can easily create or destroy on a whim.
10:48 kinda crap writing .. “I was covered in the stuff they covered me in .” “ my body was still coated in the concoction the scientists bathed me in , after the ordeal I emerged with the blessings of a god” Bro I dropped out of school how can you be paid to write an this is the best they can produce
@@TheSinatra Thats normal dude, without the ring john is just a dude, MM on the other hand shoulnt have died like this but he stil wouldve died to Cpt Atom regardless.
@@alejandrosantana5693 my fault i didn’t mean john stewart i was meaning martian manhunter. Breaking his neck is insane considering he’s a shapeshifter
Anybody been watching Young Justice recently? Does the energy drink, REACH, within the show remind you of a drink that the kids are drinking today? Within the show, it makes you docile and was purposely made so that people would not revolt. The show is over a decade old but totally mirrors what is going on post lockdown. Its pretty eerie
Vulcan is equal to Odin, Galactus and Franklin Richards and far superior to Hyperion(Superman) and Dr. Spectrum(Green Lantern), while Captain Atom got whooped by Superman, Green Lantern and Powergirl seperately.
His more likely counterparts are Captain Mar-Vell and Nova(super strength, laser beams, radius self explosion, energy absorbtion). And funny enough those two are also his equals.
First let me say I am loving this series, The only thing off putting is that Jenny talks like the dialogue was written for Constantine. Now to my issue with Black Label. Is it an adult themed comic? If so, why is nudity and cursing not allowed? Is it in continuity or outside? If outside, then is Three Jokers not in continuity? Black Label started as a good concept being like Punisher Max was back in the day. It just needs to define what it actually is and stick to it.
"It's not in the main continuity, FYI." In other words, Captain Atom is NOT the most powerful character in DC, and could NOT do that to the JLA, let alone Superman. And Superman was never the most powerful in the DCU. He's the STRONGEST HERO, not the most powerful. There's a difference between strength and overall power. Lots of characters are "more powerful" than Superman. Hell, Zatanna and Green Lantern are more powerful than Superman. But they're not stronger. Overall, this was just more of the sick, twisted, and played out "superhero goes crazy" crap, just using actual DC characters. Dumb.
I think an important distinction to make between matter manipulator and reality warper is what they’re capable of changing. As I understand it, matter manipulators are capable of changing only tangible things, such as changing something into something else or creating something entirely new out of the surrounding matter. On the other hand, reality warpers can change the intangible and thus the very fabric of reality itself. Things like changing the laws of physics or altering history as it is, was, or will be, creating entirely alternate timelines or even removing someone or something’s existence completely.
@johnlawful2272 thing with Cap atom is depends who writes him sometimes he causally beats guys like superman other times he struggles with lesser characters he's in same boat with Lobo in that regard, also Cap atom holds back most times he rarely ever uses his full powers
Captain atom can be a beast but punching superman through his chest? no. They are making stuff up for the story. this seems like a psychotic dream that Cap Atom is having. Next darkside will show up and get one shot-ed in the next comic.
Atom can emit different forms of radiation. One of those form’s being red solar light. If the writers actually used his abilities at their max potential then punching holes in Superman should be easy for him. But since he isn’t a flagship character this is the closest thing.
@@mikeharris6429red solar energy isn’t a different type of radiation. Red, yellow, and blue suns and so on all release the same type of radiation. They all just differ in terms of size and energy output. But they all release the same types of radiation. There’s actually no scientific reason as to why Superman should be weak to red solar energy as it resealed the same type of energy as any other type of suns, though just at a lower level.
@@mikeharris6429I should keep up with Superman comics things like kryptonite or red sun radiation aren’t even a factor for Superman anymore since dc death metall
"There is no difference between a matter manipulator and a reality manipulator" Dr. Manhattan:"Don't bother holding anything I'll just create another naked clone to do that while I deal with this"
The dialogue is very heavy handed and Jenny Sparks imo just isn't likeable enough for me to serve as the main POV for a story like this. But the way Atom executes the league is pretty brutal ngl.
This isn't good writing. Good god I'm tired of every modern story teller thinking they're clever because they think there is no good or evil. Superman is a hero, not because he said he is, but because he saves innocent lives, he puts himself in harms way to help others.
It's Tom King. Just about all his stories are like this. Ironically, he gets superman right when he writes him. Everyone else gets this type of treatment
I did not expect to enjoy a story about Captain Atom. I certainly look forward to the next episode! I love the classic look of Superman and Batman illustration. Dope!
It’s always someone either kills ‘Justice League’ or ‘Avengers’ or ‘X-Men’ 😂
And never how are the Justice Leauge, Avengers and X-men 😔
@@Zzzodiackillerrr True 😢
Right
Yes, those groups are power “standards”. Similar to musical standards they are the ruler by which all others are measured.
because comics!
So Captan Atom was depressed and decided to ascend to godhood by killing the world’s most powerful heroes? That’s so cool!!!! I was tired of him just exploding.
It seems like Atom basically underwent the same thing Deadpool did during Deadpool kills the marvel universe.
Basically gains a perspective or glimpse of the outside universe (whats past the 4th wall) and goes completely nuts.
@@thefallencog except that here is more realistic, he is more powerful that we might think.
Hahahahahaha “tired of him exploding” very true and still super cool
@@juliancamacho3837 yeah it’s cool but it has get tiresome, they are not exploiting (hehe) his potential.
@@francisconavarro4251 I don't really think Atom is more powerful in this story.
I think the key thing people forget about most super heroes (with the exception of superman or plastic man) is that they are significantly more powerful then they let on. They only hold back out of fear they'll hurt or kill anyone.
This is why i said its probably something similar to Deadpool kills the marvel universe. Atom goes nuts after seeing the world behind the pages and stop holding back. Atom's always been capable of doing the things hes done in this story. Hes just never done it because heroes don't kill.
Now he kills. So now he uses his power to the fullest extent of his imagination because hes no longer holding back, and possibly been revealed to by another party that he can do even more then he previously thought.
That broken nose superman gave him in this story? Superman could have easily torn his head off if it wasn't for him holding back. Superman holds back though because superman doesn't kill.
Atom effortlessly tore superman apart because he wasn't holding back (using his power to the fullest extent)
So they turned Captain Atom into his Watchdog equivalent of Doctor Manhattan. Fair enough.
Basically but with a God complex
@@watsondontaable I have read Doomsday Clock, but from what I understand it gave Osterman a God Complex.
Doctor Manhattan copy captain atom
Yeah, didn't they port the Charlton characters over into the original Watchmen universe?
If you read the old Captain Atom comics you might find out who Monarch is.
"So I never knew, how strong Captain Atom was."
Oh boy, is this another Plasticman situation in the works?
Finally a Captain Atom story where he’s not just self destructing! Kingdom Come, Dceased, Injustice, Infinite Frontier, DC vs Vampires… probably more I’ve forgotten too 😂
Flashpoint,Dark knights death metal, Justice league unlimited, batman/superman public enemies and sooooo much more it's so many I can't remember all
@@Jowanjigod damn😭
@@JowanjiI thought Major Force exploded in Superman/ Batman Public Enemies
@lexofpower2822 in the comics he blew up at the end 🤣 to sacrifice himself
Finally someone's writing him correctly.
So Tom King just went full Tom King all over Captain Atom. Yaaaay.
For the record, Captain Atom IS powerful, but ever since he was used as the template for Dr. Manhattan, people have kept trying to turn him into discount Dr. Manhattan. Which is not what Captain Atom is about.
Captain Atom was called that because his original powers were due to atomic radiation, and it turned him into a guy who was superstrong, durable, could fly, survive without air, phase through matter and fire atomic energy blasts. He wasn't a matter manipulator, he was Charlton Comic's answer to Superman, but with a few quirks such as being a military man and having to have his body coated in a metallic material to contain the radiation his body emitted when he was powered up.
Later, DC changed it so that his body was coated with an alien metal that allowed him to tap into this other dimensional energy source called the Quantum realm, which made him superstrong, nigh-invulnerable, let him fly, survive without food or water, fire energy blasts, absorb energy, detect energy, and a few other tricks. He generally wasn't as strong/tough as Superman, but was close enough to make a fight of it, and had more powerful energy related abilities.
The JLU version of Captain Atom was more or less a pure energy being in a containment suit. This version was made noticeably weaker than Superman, to the point that using Red Solar radiation didn't truly even the odds, as Superman had a pretty decisive victory.
Then we had the whole mess with the Post Infinite Crisis takes on Captain Atom where he was the Monarch, but then he was a Dr. Manhattan knock off, but then he was his old self, and they basically couldn't agree on anything. The Nu-52 version made it even worse.
This story sounds like Tom King more or less taking some of the worst takes on Nate, the idea of him being a Dr. Manhattan knock off disconnected from humanity, being some all powerful matter and energy manipulator, and then using him to air out his own various issues and do his usual deconstructive storytelling.
Captain Atom isn't really supposed to be some kind of all powerful, Dr. Manhattan like entity (and people forget that Manhattan wasn't all powerful either, and only seemed godlike because he was the only superhero in his world). Captain Atom was supposed to be more akin to someone like War Machine, USAgent and other heroes who were aligned with the US government and military, and the conflict would come from his personal morality versus his orders at the time. He was strong and tough, but at least one tier below Superman strong and tough. He was more powerful and versatile than Superman when it came to energy powers, and between his other powers he was perfectly fine as someone who was both a hero and someone who could go toe-to-toe with other high powered heroes to keep them in check.
Thank you! Someone gets it!
"I never realized how powerful Captain Atom was...."
I always assumed he was more or less equivalent to Dr. Manhattan. Because DC wouldn't let Morrison use pre-existing characters for Watchmen.
Naw, Atom is stupidly powerful. A lot of characters are. DC just chooses to give the Justice League stupid-level plot armor.
He is but also isn't. Atom could recreate a universe while Manhattan can do it on a muliversal scale.
I mean he’s strong but he’s never been written like this before.
Basically everyone has a story out there that makes them seem like the strongest to ever exist.. this is just that kind of story for CA
@kappadarwin9476 no he can't you're talking about the button right?
Dr Manhattan has already defeated Captain Atom and easily too. Why does no one remember this? 😂
I bet he's going to bring them all back to life just to be like: "See? I killed all of you and brought you back. What am I if not a god?"
I assumed they'd just use Time Travel like they *ALWAYS* do, but that actually makes more sense 🤔
@@ShawnArroyo-o2z maybe. But I don't think this is supposed to be centered around the Justice League and it's a Black Label elseworld. I think it's just going to shed light on how powerful he and others really are.
Wonder Woman: Okay, What's your point?
Shazam: doesn't justify mass murder
Dr.fate: fate Decrees your mind is consumed by chaos.
Mr. Miracle: seconded, it's not that special
Big barda: seconded, now fall.
Lol I can see that
@@WannabeWryterThat would be beautiful. Throw in the Spectre and its perfect lol
Seeing Atom rolling like Dr. Manhattan with a god complex is extremely fascinating.
Captain Atom is criminally underused. He is a BEAST.
Preach
Because he doesn't have a dumb weakness that batman can automatically exploit. 😉
@@carlosvega4612tbh he does, he can’t take to much energy at once all Batman would have to do it just buy a ton of nuclear power or just invent a enegery bomb that just exploits atom
This is the nerfed version of Jenny Sparks. In fact DC had tô nerf a lot of characters from the Authority. So the other ones don't seems useless near them.
what could she do before
@@Youneedashower12 yea id like to know as well
This story also isn't canon, so she doesn't have to be nerfed to be at a different power level
She killed "God". Or more specifically a gigantic moon sized life form that kick started life on earth in the Wildstorm universe. And then she died.
The whole justice league is nerfed here too. The flash, superman, Wonder woman, Martian manhunter, green lantern. Normally these heroes are beyond the powers of atom manipulation.
Everyone read ... Captain Atom Armageddon ... 2005-06. He is a Universe Killer threat. Awesome Story.
That was a good book, it empathised his humanity and morality while taking on 'edgier' heroes.
I read it and enjoyed it. One of the best things is that it provides an explanation for while he became Monarch.
why does Jenny Sparks come off like a discount John Constantine when she quips
That’s because she’s a discount of multiple characters. The writer doesn’t have a single creative bone in their body. This is just regurgitated bs from other comics. Seriously. 🤦♂️
She's a rip-off of Electro from the way they described her. Electro 1964 Jenny Sparks 1996.
Going by her age it'd be the other way around, but yea
Because Jenny Sparks was written by a discount Alan Moore by the name of Warren Ellis.
@@pathkeepers nah, original Jenny actually had her own personality. This is just Tom King doing what he does best: completely ignoring established character to do whatever he wants and tell his fanfic
Remember the military sending Captain Adam to stop Superman saving Question in Justice League Unlimited and giving Superman a hard time.
That fight was good. I remember Superman gave him the "stand down, son" and I knew Superman was about to wreck him
Captain Atom’s and Superman’s powersets are similar in terms of physics.
The difference is that Superman has more cells inside him, whereas in Atom’s case it is just the shell and raw energy within.
Superman and Atom absorb nuclear/solar energy similarly, but Superman has just a much more consistently higher energy battery capacity to go around.
So, especially on days when Superman is not basking on the surface of the sun casually, Atom can put up a fight….. not win, but definitely give Clark run for his money.
@@kingol4801- nope, that's just made up.
@@Shaggy-839two how is that made up?
@@jordanedwards9681 it's made up of atoms
There are some heroes in the DC universe so op, that the DC universe is fortunate they choose to be heroes. Firestorm, Swamp Thing, Metamorpho, Plastic Man, Constantine and Dr Fate just to name a few. Captain Atom is way up there with all of them. Easy.
Thats why they make him go boom in every story
Dr manhatten
Manhattan was different. Actually was an educated and well adjusted person who was then throw into something that he barely could conceive.. Time.
Atom is a soldier with superpowers with no basis of understanding them.
@citizensane4387 so is superman but they nerfed him in this story XD.
@@namelessvoid9725 well, Superman goes without saying 😂
Yeah, he's a tank. Historically, he's DC's Adam Brashear if he weren't a genius, too.
I know this is turning out to portray him like Dr. Manhattan, but he's more often level headed and reserved.
Dr Manhattan already fought and beat captain atom easily.
Captain atom has been around long before Blue marvel and Dr Manhattan.
@@cheeseburgerfreddy6350blue marvel isn’t DC
@@Beastly_Genius Never said he was.
@@kcopara1different interpretations of characters. Just because a character beats a specfic version of a character doesn't mean he beats ALL versions of that character.
And I mean that regardless of which ones your discussing.
This is a badass story so far, but I’m a little concerned that the ending will just be a hand wavy “he changed his mind and resurrected everyone!” I hope they find a more interesting way to end it.
Let’s get a DC top 20 most powerful characters hierarchy!
This would be the video idea that drives him nuts 😂😂let’s dooo iiit
That would be such a headache because which versions of which characters do you include? Yes, all history is now canon, everyone's history was restored, but power levels still varied between eras.
Then are we going to include Vertigo? DC Black label? Wildstorm (pre-New 52 merger), Because there goes 99% of the list. Honestly no one in the main continuity JL (even full extended roster) makes it.
So for DC it wouldn't be a hierarchy bc for writers and fans batman has prep time so he's number 1 and can beat God's, oh superman is number 1 even tho he was killed by doomsday, oh Manhattan is number 1 even tho he had his power taken by a crazy version of batman. Wonder woman has an actual winning record against fighting superman so she can be number 1. DC is a joke when it comes to a power scale bc it's nonexistent.
@@danhenley2065 fair, but you could make the same point about Marvel. The Living Tribunal is the second most powerful character but has lost to just about everyone at this point. TOAA has become TOAA only when it’s convenient. It seems Dr. Doom and Reed Richards are Marvel’s Batmen and could beat anyone with prep time, etc etc. but Rob has still covered Marvel. A couple of times now.
@kylecollins3755 that's bc there still an assemblance of a hierarchy... I've been reading since the beginning of the 1990s and the only time I can remember LT losing not being replaced but losing is the beyonders. But Rob just did the list again it's still LT at the top where he belongs with oblivion and for me the phoenix should be tied for 2nd bc even the watcher said in one story the phoenix is 2nd to none but OAA. For dc it's way way different bc there are over 40 different versions of superman alone and some of them are reality warping some how. Then superboy prime is immune to reality warping... marvel as always had the hierarchy down pretty good, they will just add new players and they find the spot like legion, franklin and molecule man.
“But I bet you thought I was less.”
*-Captain Atom*
Captain Atom and Captain Marvel(Shazam) are my favorite DC superheroes.
Along with Doctor Fate, they're also characters I think are objectively more powerful than Superman.
@@sovereign-of-scars4372 Doctor Fate is a awesome character. I don't care what the plot or writers say superman's powers are finite while Captain Atom gets his powers from the quantum field, Captain Marvel(Shazam) and Doctor Fate are pure magical beings. The quantum field and magic are both infinite
Same. Those are my 2 favorites too. Captain Marvel being my most favorite. Not the new version where he’s an adult with the mind of a punk kid, but the old version where he’s an adult with a child’s heart.
Breaking the neck of a shape shifter that has intangibility makes no sense lmao. Cool for elseworlds I guess
Matter manipulation rember? He can literally just stop his molecules from changing making it so he can breack his neck.
Mainstream Captain Atom could hold onto normally intangible beings, having grappled the Black Racer.
Two words, matter manipulation 😉.
J'onn controls literally every molecule in his body so on some level he has matter manipulation too. Also he is physically stronger than captain atom, so is superman.
@@OneofmanyASMR Except they didn't justify that at all so this is just cope
Brother you are by far the best at explaining and narrating all these comics. My son's even say your voice is the one they hear when they read the square narrator boxes. Really appreciate you and all you do. Your words and videos have helped bind together a new generation of readers and teach some of us old dogs new tricks. Thank you for all you do
Bro this story is straight HEAT plz keep continuing this story so glad Captain Adam I getting some love
00:34 umm doctor manhattan??
Hyperbole totally never gets old
It's actually the other way around. DC wouldn't let him kill the characters they just got from Charleston comics. So he just made other versions of a bunch of them. Owl Man is the blue beetle, the question became Rorschach, and Captain Atom transmuted into Dr. Manhattan.
@@KaijuSuitagreed he IS DrM
My brethren... Doctor Manhattan is based on Captain Atom.
DC comics as always Undervalued the power captain atom has, he’s basically molecule Man and Superman in one person
His molecular manipulation isn’t anything near molecule man’s. Molecule man is basically a multiversal level matter manipulator, jm pretty sure he’s a straight up reality warper because of how good his matter manipulation is.
all i learned from this is that Jenny Sparks is insufferable. oh, that and i guess its Captain Atom's turn to "kill the such and such universe".
Agreed. Really disliked her character here. Makes her feel like she can't be bothered by this. I don't get why she's doing it in the first place then
I agree with both of you.
@ThePlayer4our I feel like none of them really reacted to anyone dying, Supes had no reaction to his close friends dying?! The only reaction I saw was Batman yelling about the daughter at the end but it could be just cut around.
Sparks was always annoying but I liked her. Now she is just a hypocrite.
Yeah she's just a prick to everyone for no reason.
*without watching video* You mean Batman doesn't have a contingency plan for Captain Atom?
Lol I just used that argument against another comment. Batman always has a plan. I don't care what this story line says.
I always thought Dr. Manhattan was Captain Atom, just smarter. I'm glad there's a book that showcase his true limit of his powers.
On todays edition of "just because you can..."
Odd, I would think that Diana being a descendant of a god that Atom would seek to get answers from her. A little odd if you ask me.
3:34 'Energy' cannot be created or destroyed (1st Law of Thermo) - just sayin'
Who even knows this guy. He doesn't even bother to put on pants. Anybody who likes this guy better than Batman shows that they probably don't wear pants either.
Are you stupid ? You gotta be stupid
Oh give it a rest. There is a more to comic books than Batman
Who hasn't killed the Justice League.
Gingivitis? Pretty sure they all brush.
Shazam
'JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED' - CAPTAIN ATOM
Im glad that they shin a stoplight on some of the lesser known characters. But do they always have to do by killing the other heroes.
She's lives to 100 years. Her replacement is Jenny Quantum before her was Jenny Fire.
Jenny Fire is like, when humanity discovered fire bro
Yes@@This_ffffire
Manhunter is basically invulnerable, wonder, woman is immortal, it takes way more force to punch through Superman and the flash runs faster than the speed of light. Also, I’ve seen Green Lantern stop giant nuke like explosions
He couldnt get the beatbon Supes either. Supes reactuon time is too fast. No way he lets Atom kill him from behind no less. Cheap shot
@@davidselawsky6620are you seriously coping that hard 😂 he’s a dude that can control matter. He disintegrates Superman atom by atom instantly with zero effort realistically
Captain Atom can literally punch through Superman with minimal effort and less force using red sun or kryptonite radiation which he can produce easily.
@@davidselawsky6620 Cope buddy superman gets slammed
You're a talented creator, no joke!
Hahaha
I've read a lot of stories because he introduced me to them with videos like this one.
No, in physics, "intangible things" are not considered matter because matter is defined as anything that has mass and occupies space, and intangible things by definition lack a physical presence and cannot be measured in terms of mass or volume.
Phasing/quantum tunneling has mass, but does not have volume in a conventional way.
There are different kinds of intangible spiritual(gentleman ghost), dimensional(phantom girl), energy(Monica Rambeau) , vibrational(flash), hologram(shard) and mass shifting
Mmh is just mass shifting and still can be affected by matter manipulation cuz his mass is still there but just spread out way more
@@kingol4801 ok. He doesn't have Mass. Just admit they did lazy writing instead of debating facts
The nerf on flash and superman in this was kinda annoying as well. But they've always had their power levels conveniently reduced when needed i guess (especially flash).
maybe intangibility works the same as kitty pryde's powers
Theyve never really known what to do with the dude. Sort of like Firestorm.
Clearly a Jenny Sparks story, not a Justice League story.
The most powerful skill a supe can have: the understanding of not just what you are capable of, but the extent of your limits or lack of them.
Doctor Manhattan could kick his butt
i HATE these kinds of comics. why does everyone have to die.
You go to caputre one of the strongest beings - we don't need a plan, we can just walk in one by one and die. Good job Justice League.
He's sounding just like dr Manhattan 😂😂
Learn that Dr. Manhattan is based off Captain Atom
I love the random ones you do. This was great.
Could Scarlet Witch from MCU kills the whole Justice League from DC movies?
Why did you word that question like that.
Pretty much, she can just neutralize their powers and boom them.
Edit: I didn't realize you put MCU so I can't say
Yes. The MCU Wanda vs DCEU justice league. Yeah I would say because who inntje justice league could counter her. Maybe Batman with prep time 😂
@@Achiemeshe’s just as weak as a human generally so she can generally just get speedblitzed
She can only react at the speed of thought vs a being like flash who can react at the speed of light. Barry got this before it even starts!
Nice to see you doing DC comics again!
I'm early and ready to be made a comics expert 😂
Daaaamn, it reminds me Rob that how many times I was commenting on your channel loooong long time ago many years ago to do a video about Captain Atom
I'm glad people are recognising this Dope Hero
Thanks Rob
So he's basically dr. Manhattan
So it’s DC’s version of Dr. Manhattan, that has lost his humanity and has a whole MiracleMan arc with a sideways tinge like Jamie Braddock from the Excalibur comic, in one DC Elseworld series in a DC Black Mature Title.
4:19 "Nobody wants to be god anymore" is crazy lol
More like nobody wants to be good anymore
So is Erika and her friend gods masquerading as humans? Cuz they are pretty calm watching captain atom kill the justice league......having a full blown convo about movies and tic tac toe. Than captain atom politely asks if its his turn?
Matter can be destroyed, energy can not. Energy is transferred, transmitted, conserved, and changed
E=mc^2
So if matter is conserved, so too must energy
@zacharyishikawa2459 matter can be destroyed, energy cannot.
@@JPGotrokkits Matter can change form but it cannot be erased from existence.
Tell me you didn't pass high school chemistry without telling me you didn't pass high school chemistry....
@Lyam84 straight A in fact.
@Rob How does saying, "he killed him for no reason" is just something that sounds good? *15:20
I paused and checked the comments when he said that. There is in fact a huge difference between doing something for a reason or doing so without cause. Especially to kill.. Especially, especially a person. Its the difference between a serial killer and a war hero ffs
DC really nerfed him so hard he is basically equal to Dr Manhattan
The dialogue between atom and spark was amazing. 😱 “every superhero thinks they’re the chosen one because they can fly” 😂🔥🔥🔥
Captain Adam Devine
Go on...
Yea this was the dopest I’ve seen captain atom. Please keep posting
You say Captain Atom isn't a reality manipulator, but can manipulate the elements that make up reality 😄
That’s why he said it was close but still not the same. Matter manipulation, according to rob, doesn’t “break” the laws of physics. If an item has 50 atoms, whatever he changes it too has to have 50 atoms… caveat is that he can pull atoms from anywhere. Reality manipulation- you can create atoms out of thin air. Slightly difference but a difference nonetheless
Can you cover Gambit's New Sun story? Maybe a series about different character's omega-level versions or something! You rock, thanks for the vids!
"Boom you're dead"
captain atom has always been my favorite because of wat he can do. people just never give him the light cuz SUPERMAN
Oh no. Did someone split Captain Atom? Again?
Is it a day ending in "y"?
This is actually pretty cool, they always hype up that Captain Atom is as strong as Superman but then for whatever reason he explodes😂
I think Dr. Manhattan could blink him away though
dr manhattan isnt originally traditional dc though remember that
Dr. Manhattan is based off Captain Atom
Curious. How would he (This version of Captain Atom) fair against Superman Prime, Superman 1 Million, All-Star Superman, Strange Visitor Superman (SVS), The Most powerful of them all...Drum roll...COSMIC ARMOR SUPERMAN.
Captain Atom is sooooo much more powerful than anyone else on the Justice League. Since Day One.
Except for Batman he's always got a plan, making him the most powerful Justice League member.
He really isn't. The flash, martian manhunter and superman are so much more ridiculous in what they can normally do. Especially the flash.
@@Aaayyyeeee214... Captain Atom could turn the Earth Atmosphere into 9th Metal instantly... 💥 Flash can breath, move or so anything. The world is a Tomb.
Plus captain atom can blow up the whole universe if he wanted to. Gone. Read his 2005-06 series.
@@brianmccann666 that's captain atom when the writers let him take center stage. Go look at what the flash and superman can do when the writers give them the spotlight. The flash is so fast he's basically omnipresent and superman has ignored high level reality warping (which includes matter manipulation) and resists hax(s)(the current main superman resisted being turned into salt). Superman once overpowered a beam fired from a girl that was channeling all of matter,energy, dimensions and magic in all reality from all points of time with his heat vision alone. Again my comment says what they can normally do, but even when it's stories where they are the main focus they all overtake what captain atom can do with the same spotlight.
Captain Atom can be Lucifer Morningstar level if the writers wanted him to be such. There's literally no limits to what he can or can't do since he was created to weird the most broken power ever, powered logic energy manipulation. Characters like Supes or Flash or Green Lantern need mcguffians from energy sources Cap can easily create or destroy on a whim.
Cant wait for the next video on this series
Reminds me of Dr Manhattan.
You are imagining things. 😁
@@derrickmaraisdr Manhattan is based on captain atom rorschach the question
Not surprising. Dr Manhattan is based on Captain Atom, and in the New 52 they made Atom look very similar to Manhattan.
Correct for the comments in this section.
I wish he ran up on Manhattan trying this bullshit, then he would understand what a real God is.
I like the way you make bad dialogue sound decent😊
Jenny seems like the shit talking goat. Need more stories with her
Nah thats constantine
10:48 kinda crap writing .. “I was covered in the stuff they covered me in .”
“ my body was still coated in the concoction the scientists bathed me in , after the ordeal I emerged with the blessings of a god”
Bro I dropped out of school how can you be paid to write an this is the best they can produce
Oh lord everybody takes out the entire everybody else......
Nothingmeans anything anymore
Nathaniel Adams needs to be sent to the Phantom Zone, after placing a psychic suggestion that will compel him to explode once inside said zone
18:53 ok everybody is nerfed AF here, this is not that good
Snapping John Stewarts neck 😂 this story is garbage
@@TheSinatra Thats normal dude, without the ring john is just a dude, MM on the other hand shoulnt have died like this but he stil wouldve died to Cpt Atom regardless.
@@alejandrosantana5693 my fault i didn’t mean john stewart i was meaning martian manhunter. Breaking his neck is insane considering he’s a shapeshifter
@@TheSinatra It's kind of dumb but plausible for a matter manipulator to do, if Captain Atom prevented him from density/shape shifting.
That part the fact John jones didn’t transform or intangible is crazy
I am definitely here for the next issue bro!!! This was insane!!!
Anybody been watching Young Justice recently? Does the energy drink, REACH, within the show remind you of a drink that the kids are drinking today? Within the show, it makes you docile and was purposely made so that people would not revolt. The show is over a decade old but totally mirrors what is going on post lockdown. Its pretty eerie
You're just making a connection that's not there, irl doesn't need reach when there's the internet and media
Can't believe you slept on Adam for so long. He's always been nuts but held back because it would be broken otherwise.
Vulcan 🖖 is his Marvel Counterpart
Not exactly
Vulcan is equal to Odin, Galactus and Franklin Richards and far superior to Hyperion(Superman) and Dr. Spectrum(Green Lantern), while Captain Atom got whooped by Superman, Green Lantern and Powergirl seperately.
His more likely counterparts are Captain Mar-Vell and Nova(super strength, laser beams, radius self explosion, energy absorbtion). And funny enough those two are also his equals.
@@TheMasterofDisaster48I wouldn't say Vulcan is equal to any of those people
@@TheMasterofDisaster48 Lmao No, that's a mad exaggeration, he's an omega mutant yes but he's not anywhere near those top guys you've mentioned.
my mind is kind of blown on this one. I'm stoked for the next one!
this jl is soo dumb
First let me say I am loving this series, The only thing off putting is that Jenny talks like the dialogue was written for Constantine. Now to my issue with Black Label. Is it an adult themed comic? If so, why is nudity and cursing not allowed? Is it in continuity or outside? If outside, then is Three Jokers not in continuity? Black Label started as a good concept being like Punisher Max was back in the day. It just needs to define what it actually is and stick to it.
"It's not in the main continuity, FYI." In other words, Captain Atom is NOT the most powerful character in DC, and could NOT do that to the JLA, let alone Superman.
And Superman was never the most powerful in the DCU. He's the STRONGEST HERO, not the most powerful. There's a difference between strength and overall power. Lots of characters are "more powerful" than Superman. Hell, Zatanna and Green Lantern are more powerful than Superman. But they're not stronger.
Overall, this was just more of the sick, twisted, and played out "superhero goes crazy" crap, just using actual DC characters. Dumb.
I think an important distinction to make between matter manipulator and reality warper is what they’re capable of changing. As I understand it, matter manipulators are capable of changing only tangible things, such as changing something into something else or creating something entirely new out of the surrounding matter. On the other hand, reality warpers can change the intangible and thus the very fabric of reality itself. Things like changing the laws of physics or altering history as it is, was, or will be, creating entirely alternate timelines or even removing someone or something’s existence completely.
Captain Atom is a fucking beast he can bitch slap superman
No.
Didn't green lantern beat him after blowing up the universe I can't remember what issues
@johnlawful2272 thing with Cap atom is depends who writes him sometimes he causally beats guys like superman other times he struggles with lesser characters he's in same boat with Lobo in that regard, also Cap atom holds back most times he rarely ever uses his full powers
Yoo, that's dope. Long time listener, first time commenter. Enjoyed this one, hope you continue when it comes out.
Captain atom can be a beast but punching superman through his chest? no. They are making stuff up for the story. this seems like a psychotic dream that Cap Atom is having. Next darkside will show up and get one shot-ed in the next comic.
I know. I thought that was a little silly. It's like. Is this like a weaker Superman?
Atom can emit different forms of radiation. One of those form’s being red solar light. If the writers actually used his abilities at their max potential then punching holes in Superman should be easy for him. But since he isn’t a flagship character this is the closest thing.
We'll Dr Manhattan was based off of him wasn't he? That probably explains his power, no? 🤷
@@mikeharris6429red solar energy isn’t a different type of radiation. Red, yellow, and blue suns and so on all release the same type of radiation. They all just differ in terms of size and energy output. But they all release the same types of radiation.
There’s actually no scientific reason as to why Superman should be weak to red solar energy as it resealed the same type of energy as any other type of suns, though just at a lower level.
@@mikeharris6429I should keep up with Superman comics things like kryptonite or red sun radiation aren’t even a factor for Superman anymore since dc death metall
Could you imagine laying out that entire monologue just to have your neck snapped like that
21:02 you can hear the excitment n this guys voice for the continued vandilization of comics... im disapointed, but nolonger suprized.
Vandalization? How so?
"There is no difference between a matter manipulator and a reality manipulator" Dr. Manhattan:"Don't bother holding anything I'll just create another naked clone to do that while I deal with this"
Man I can't with the dialogue anymore. It's so preachy and just a medium for the writer to sh*tpost.
That's exactly what I was thinking
The dialogue is very heavy handed and Jenny Sparks imo just isn't likeable enough for me to serve as the main POV for a story like this. But the way Atom executes the league is pretty brutal ngl.
@@narutogen13 me too
When Jenny was talking about the vicar and German moustache man I knew this was a modern day comic.
Hey Rob, when are you going to do The Witness (Destiny 2) vs Galactus?
first
Remember when reading comics you wanted good guys to live?
I've always wanted a Cpt Adam villain arc, this makes me happy!
This isn't good writing. Good god I'm tired of every modern story teller thinking they're clever because they think there is no good or evil. Superman is a hero, not because he said he is, but because he saves innocent lives, he puts himself in harms way to help others.
It's Tom King. Just about all his stories are like this. Ironically, he gets superman right when he writes him.
Everyone else gets this type of treatment
I did not expect to enjoy a story about Captain Atom. I certainly look forward to the next episode!
I love the classic look of Superman and Batman illustration. Dope!