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This is one of your most revealing and informative videos yet! I was amazed at just how audible the sonar pings were. And if it's that harsh to us, I can only imagine what it does to the fish!
It was definitely something I didn't expect to be as clear and audible as it was. Especially with the front and back graphs going. I was out there recording it wishing I had someone with me to experience it as it was happening. Can't wait to dive into some of the others like the FFS stuff.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors If we ever get a chance to hit the private trophy lake together, I would love to hear would the sonar pings on the Bass Buggy sound like!
I just got a boat (Roughneck 1543), and could hear the transducer ticking/clicking the other day on the lake. Helix 7 CHIRP G3. Just like bass see different colors, I wonder what sound frequencies they will “tune out”.
This is why your channel is going to blow up buddy. You educate so much about bass behavior with quality underwater footage. Your production values are top notch, presentation is always brief, concise, and to the point. Marks of effective communication. I learn more from your videos than any other. This is the stuff I’ve wondered about since I started fishing sixty years ago. Thank you sir. 🫡
I love the “Biggest and best swimbait vids” as much as the next guy. But your vids are SOOOO helpful, informative and interesting. Appreciate the work you put into them.
I make custom crank baits from balsa, cedar, etc. I sometimes test the ones with rattles by just having my kids put their heads under water and tell me how far away they can hear it. They could hear the one in my profile picture at 40 yards. The way sound travels in water is pretty shocking. It’s unreal… and a bass can literally hear or sense crawfish on the bottom enough to feed on them at night. Yeah they’re hearing the sonar clicking.
I covered my kayak paddle shaft with pool noodles for this very reason. I was approaching a trout cruising and feeding slowly on emergers in the surface film hoping to get within fly rod range, and when I just very slightly bumped the boat with my paddle, the trout scampered off like it had been stung. Pool noodles went on that afternoon. The fish can hear/feel absolutely everything.
Thank you Steve for the time and effort that you go to in order to bring us all of this great information. As a former (retired) fisheries researcher, I well understand what it takes to collect and compile scientific information and get it distributed to the necessary stakeholders in the conservation community. As a research diver and a lifetime avid fisherman, it has always been an eye-opener (ear opener?) to me how even slight sounds will travel through the water, from the perspective of relative amplitude and also over extended distances. I have not ever been diving near operating sonar equipment, so this work of yours has held strong interest for me specifically. Please keep up the good works for us sir. You are appreciated.
The sound of your grass reminds me of when I was younger and did car audio work and we would have a loose ground somewhere and we can hear it snapping like that through the speakers pretty interesting great video Steve thank you
You are the first TH-camr I have shared on my social media. I teach high school biology, including an aquatic biology class and I am going to start using some of your videos in class. Great application of science that is very relevant to one’s own life. Great job.
Great content Steve! So much fun to see what the underwater hydrophone. Interesting in thinking about how far or close to get to fish in an area.... the distance away - side imaging really came thru loud and clear at the dock. An an Electronic Engineer in school we used to measure everything, but not everything measurable is meaningful. Just thinking about this great demonstration, but seeing today's tournaments being won w/ a tremendous amount of electronic noise being put into the water by these 10k - 50k multi-screen, multi-transducer GPS locked 102 lb thrust set ups. On any given day w/ other variables set up, may make a difference, but those pros fish in all kinds of conditions and still big set ups are winning. Great stuff as always and makes me say hmmmm
You are so right, there are just a bazillion variables. After working on this is just created more questions for me. Really interesting to investigate.
Wow! I had no idea that sonars were that loud. And hearing you talk with mic under water was crazy too! I mean, I grew up being told to be quite while we were fishing, but never have heard what it was like before. Thank you for this awesome video.
Bro ! You are the Shiit I so appreciate your videos. Keep doing what you’re doing. You have no idea how many people you’re impacting. But you’re a little different From most TH-camrs. You really get down to the nitty-gritty. No one keeps it 100 like you do.
Excellent info. For tarpon fishermen that keep the sonar on and wonder why they catch no fish, here is the answer. Capt Glenn Musella, Ft Pierce, Florida
These videos are absolutely amazing.. i had no idea how loud the sonar was as well as just movement and talking... i will go into stealth mode from here on out... thank you steve
I'll add another comment because I'm so impressed with it. You should test the sound of casting, dropping talons and power poles. And test the sounds of the Hydrowave. Do the graphs sound like any of the options.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors my son lived in Texas for several years before moving back to Michigan. It’s great now, especially with the 4 grandkids. A guy stopped me on the way out of church yesterday and told me what a fine man my son was. Now that’s a blessing, especially on Father’s Day. God bless you Steve.
Dang! Never knew it was that loud!! I fish from a kayak and may try fishing without the transducer on sometimes. That sound has to have an affect on the fish for sure.
I always turn graphs to "stop sonar"if I'm fishing super shallow especially on flats. Also, run trolling motor constant at about 25% instead of stop and go. I've noticed a big difference when the bite is tough, or when there is little to no wind.
Awesome stuff. Thanks, Steve. Great video, again. Imagine the racket that fish must endure down there when a lake is full of Bass fishermen running all their motors and electronics. It must sound like a rock concert happening in their backyard. 🤯
wow great video very interesting even louder than what I thought it would its a wonder we ever catch a fish with them on thank you for what you do love this channel my favorite by far.
In another video on spinner baits you stated that bass can’t hear above 600 hz. Those graph sounds seem like they are at a higher frequency than that so fish may not be able or hear that at all. Oh, BTW, I’m really glad I found your channel. Keep up the great topics.
Excellent video. Thanks. I try to actually turn my graphs off when not needed. I also run an aluminum boat with carpet. Even I can hear creaks and moans on the deck as I step around. I wonder how much noise does the heads of the new lowrance ghost trolling motor make? They creak alot above water.
Thanks for this video, been wondering about this for a while. I usually turn on my sonar and forget about it all day, definitely rethinking that now lol
wow! very interesting. would be cool to see what a paddle hitting the water sounds like - from a boat or kayak, etc. could even test out wooden versus plastic
Yeap I'm definitely ready to hear that! I haven't heard Garmins is more quiet, I would have thought they all sounded similar? I'm curious in difference between FFS transducer & regular 3n1. That's 3n1 was loud! Makes me glad I turn mine on standby when I'm not using it. Unless I'm scanning & marking waypoints. I keep my transducer on standby so I'm not pinging all the time. Im curious to see fish reaction when the transducers are turned on?
Really good video. Thank you. The experts / scientists say bass cannot hear above 500 hz. It would be great if you had a mixer and could roll off the frequencies above 550 and see what the remaining noise sounds like.
You are just Great. I really Appreciate all your videos. Thanks for taking the time to educate us. How can we reward you???? For me, hearing the sounds of a spotlock setting would be very interesting. Thanks again Thanks again
Thanks! I plan on doing some more tests, especially with things like the spot lock. There are some days it seems from on the boat deck it is super loud, but maybe it's just me.
Thanks Steve that very good information and I enjoy all your other videos they all have great information thanks I try to practice them and it's helped me out a lot
I think what it might come down to is, just how used to that sound are the fish in a particular water.....If it is commonplace throughout the water, it might not register a serious alert to them...nonetheless, it shows just how much sound does travel under water!!!
Wow! What an eye opener (or should I say ear opening). I recently purchased 2 10in and 2 7in Garmin with livescope. After watching your video, I wonder if I should use them in tournaments. You always enlighten me with your content. Keep educating us,and God bless.
Good video Mr. Steve; interesting to be sure. That pinging directly under your boat sounds almost like a chatter bait. I guess to a bass the only difference is that the sound is more or less stationary and it doesn't create a felt pulse on the bass's lateral line like a chatter bait or a Colorado bladechurning through the water.
Lately I’ve been wondering the same thing and I’m going to try turning off my graphs when I’m on spots I don’t need them but it also seems like if ya keep your ultrex on 3 or lower it’s not too bad sound wise…great vid
That is an excellent question and I am still trying to get that figured out. I know in some research I have read that bass tend to respond more to lower frequencies, so that would I think eliminate a lot of the top pitches. Hopefully, more research, testing and answer to come.
Great video Steve. I knew the transducers produced a sound but didn’t realize it was that loud. I usually turn off all my graphs when I’m fishing shallow and around docks. Also, I run my trolling motor on as low a speed as I can get by with, trying to be as stealthy as possible. I don’t have FFS but just curious what it sounds like? Good information. Keep up the good work.
Crazy what the fish can hear from above. I was listening to the audio book "How to think like a fish" by Jeremy Wade talks about how, when he carp fishes, he moves super slow, almost crawls 20 ft back from the shore. I though this was a bit extreme but after this video, seems like a reasonable behavior. Thanks for this cool video once again! Any plans on doing what it sounds like approaching from shore to a bank of water? Also, in that book, Jeremy talks about how light bends and to fish, though a bank angler is standing back from the bank 5 ft, it could be perceived to the fish, that the angler is leaning over the bank shore line.
Man running both graphs sounds like the drums in 'Hot for the teacher'. That's crazy how loud they are. Guess i need to turn those off when i get to a spot.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors one thing I am surprised you didnt try was using the mic right under the boat with just the trolling motor in spot lock to see how loud it is. Everyone always makes a point of saying how to limit trolling motor use but sounds like the graphs are way more intrusive.
I definitely feel that I would run the motor as low as I can get away with and when fishing shallow probably turn all the graphs off, or at least not let the side-imaging left on when fishing shallow after I have checked/scanned an area. Lots more questions to investigate for sure.
Thanks Steve! Of all the noise we make when out fishing, I'm most concerned about how the fish react to the electronics. Do they accept it sonar pings as part of their environment, or will they start to associate the "ticking" with danger and turn off or even vacant the area. Think it might be wise to scout the area with sounders, drop a waypoint, and sneak back an hour later in stealth-mode (no electronics). I use Mega360 to position/orient myself to shallow structure. Was looking at forward facing sonar, but I am going to take a pass on it for a couple of reasons. Think it distracts from actually fishing (too much time looking at the screen), the technology is not mature enough yet (images leave a lot to be desired), it's way over priced and I strongly suspect that the fish will be more cautious (or even put off feed) by being hosed repeatedly by the sonar beam. I used to live in a city, retired to the country, and now realize how noisy cities are. Wonder how noisy a lake is and how it affects how fish forage. How much "noise" does a crayfish or minnow make relative to a fishing lure? Being a fly fisherman, I've always done better in stealth mode fishing realistic imitations than using aggressive tactics and large garish attractor flies. Cheers!
Steve, are you sure the mic was picking up actual noise and not getting interference or something? Like swimming in the water while sonar is on...don't hear it?
@@SteveRogersOutdoorsPlease keep investigating and showing us your results. Bass fishing is not even my top hobby, yet you are my favorite TH-camr! So interesting!
I saw a video where is guy did underwater sound from Garmin Livescope LV32 vs LV34 transducers. It was a stark difference even between those two. The LV34 has greater range but much louder than the LV32.
I've been swimming and heard the transducer ping from a LONG distance. I wondered if ffs sounds the same and if it's more intense with pointed at you or if you can hear it the same no matter where it's pointed. Some anglers say fish feel it, but I think they can hear it no matter the direction it's pointing
very informative Steve, great and quick testing, love it - great job - looking forward to more of these- - -the best part is you give us the data quickly and efficiently, not some 1hr test of things, great work
I am really trying to figure out a way to get that one done. I'm not quite sure how to pull it off yet, but one thing is for sure, I will probably need some help. Lol.
Steve get ahold of the guy that has the TH-cam channel bama bass. He has a pond that he build and stocked with bass and he tons of under water cameras. It would be a perfect place to test something like that.
@@SteveRogersOutdoorsmaybe have camera placed as usual around fish and then turn on electronics and observe reactions. That would be interesting to test. Thanks for all you do for bass fishing community Steve. It is greatly appreciated and informative! 🎣
Pre-placed cameras to show reactions-but how to get a camera feed in place without impacting the study? A possible collaboration with BamaBass-although water clarity may affect outcome. Also curious on learned behaviors-larger fish that may have been caught/released may respond differently than smaller, naive fish. Kind of want to just stick a transducer in the tank at Bass Pro Shops 😂
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This channel should have 100k subscribers
Some day I hope. Thanks for watching!
No kidding. Been watching Steve for a couple of years. Always the best .
This is one of your most revealing and informative videos yet! I was amazed at just how audible the sonar pings were. And if it's that harsh to us, I can only imagine what it does to the fish!
It was definitely something I didn't expect to be as clear and audible as it was. Especially with the front and back graphs going. I was out there recording it wishing I had someone with me to experience it as it was happening. Can't wait to dive into some of the others like the FFS stuff.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors If we ever get a chance to hit the private trophy lake together, I would love to hear would the sonar pings on the Bass Buggy sound like!
I just got a boat (Roughneck 1543), and could hear the transducer ticking/clicking the other day on the lake. Helix 7 CHIRP G3.
Just like bass see different colors, I wonder what sound frequencies they will “tune out”.
Fishing, science, and audio equipment - my three favorite things!
Absolutely the best fishing channel on TH-cam
Wow, thanks!
This is why your channel is going to blow up buddy. You educate so much about bass behavior with quality underwater footage. Your production values are top notch, presentation is always brief, concise, and to the point. Marks of effective communication. I learn more from your videos than any other. This is the stuff I’ve wondered about since I started fishing sixty years ago. Thank you sir. 🫡
Thank you! I really appreciate it. The channel has grown a lot this year and hopefully keeps going.
Holy crap dad wasn't crazy when he would yell at me to shut up because I was scaring away all the fish..😮😂😂
I love the “Biggest and best swimbait vids” as much as the next guy. But your vids are SOOOO helpful, informative and interesting. Appreciate the work you put into them.
Awesome! Thank you!
Thank you sir. Youre time is appreciated. Best fishing video on TH-cam tube right now.
That's crazy how loud electronics are underwater..
Love your vids 😁I’m amazed at how loud everything was. Would be cool to hear a kayak paddling too.
I make custom crank baits from balsa, cedar, etc. I sometimes test the ones with rattles by just having my kids put their heads under water and tell me how far away they can hear it. They could hear the one in my profile picture at 40 yards. The way sound travels in water is pretty shocking. It’s unreal… and a bass can literally hear or sense crawfish on the bottom enough to feed on them at night. Yeah they’re hearing the sonar clicking.
That would be a good one! Especially now since kayak fishing is so popular.
I covered my kayak paddle shaft with pool noodles for this very reason. I was approaching a trout cruising and feeding slowly on emergers in the surface film hoping to get within fly rod range, and when I just very slightly bumped the boat with my paddle, the trout scampered off like it had been stung. Pool noodles went on that afternoon. The fish can hear/feel absolutely everything.
This is stunning information! I wonder if bass will eventually evolve to associate sonar pings to danger?
Thank you Steve for the time and effort that you go to in order to bring us all of this great information. As a former (retired) fisheries researcher, I well understand what it takes to collect and compile scientific information and get it distributed to the necessary stakeholders in the conservation community. As a research diver and a lifetime avid fisherman, it has always been an eye-opener (ear opener?) to me how even slight sounds will travel through the water, from the perspective of relative amplitude and also over extended distances. I have not ever been diving near operating sonar equipment, so this work of yours has held strong interest for me specifically. Please keep up the good works for us sir. You are appreciated.
Thanks! It definitely takes a lot of time. Way more than I ever imagined. I really enjoy it though! Thank you for watching. I appreciate it.
Wow Steve, your really taking this hydro phone and underwater footage to the next level, great job.
Thank you! You'll have to go out on the water sometime with me and we'll get it hooked up so you can hear it - try a bunch of different baits, etc.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors absolutely, just let me know.
Best and most informative video yet! Every bass fisherman should be subscribed!!
I have forwarded more of your videos than anyone else's
Another great video. I was not expecting the graphs to be to loud
I’d be interested in hearing the hydro wave mixed in and see if that covers up the radar noise.
That is a great idea.
Awesome you got the hydrophone to add along with video! Definitely curious about how we may sound to them underwater
I've heard braid makes more noise compared to mono or fluorocarbon lines on a quickly moving bait. I would like to see that tested.
Me too.
That is definitely one I have on my list to do for sure. I am super interested in that as well.
Another amazing video! Trolling motor was quieter than I expected, but everything else was much louder than I would've thought.
I agree. I thought the exact same thing.
Steve! dude that was an awesome test!
Thank you!
The sound of your grass reminds me of when I was younger and did car audio work and we would have a loose ground somewhere and we can hear it snapping like that through the speakers pretty interesting great video Steve thank you
Super great information Steve! I had no idea the graphs were that loud underwater, makes me want to turn them off! Thank you for this video!
Excellent video! You have some of the most unique and interesting fishing related videos. This channel is going to be huge before too long!
I appreciate that!
Thank you for that test! Absolutely amazing! I've always heard our units Ping .I had no idea just how loud they were. Thank you, thank you!
Eye opening video Steve , I always try and go dark w my electronics whenever I can , especially flipping shallow, thanks for a great video
Steve, I love your channel. Thanks for all the awesome research videos you do! Makes me wonder what livescope sounds like.
I am going to do my best to get with some friends that have forward facing sonar and do some tests. I am super interested to see what happens.
That was very interesting!!! Amazing how sound travels thru water. Stay Safe & God Bless!!! 🤠👍
Thank you! It was really something to hear for sure. I can't wait to keep diving into these more.
You are the first TH-camr I have shared on my social media. I teach high school biology, including an aquatic biology class and I am going to start using some of your videos in class. Great application of science that is very relevant to one’s own life. Great job.
Wow, thank you!
Amazing idea for content Steve! I've always wondered what sounds fish hear coming from our boats, docks etc. Thank you for this!
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
Very interesting..makes me wonder if I should turn the graph off when not looking at it
Just awesome and different content. Your channel should explode pretty soon. Keep up the great work. Much appreciated.
Thanks! It has really grown a lot this year and hopefully keeps heading the right direction.
Great content Steve! So much fun to see what the underwater hydrophone. Interesting in thinking about how far or close to get to fish in an area.... the distance away - side imaging really came thru loud and clear at the dock. An an Electronic Engineer in school we used to measure everything, but not everything measurable is meaningful. Just thinking about this great demonstration, but seeing today's tournaments being won w/ a tremendous amount of electronic noise being put into the water by these 10k - 50k multi-screen, multi-transducer GPS locked 102 lb thrust set ups. On any given day w/ other variables set up, may make a difference, but those pros fish in all kinds of conditions and still big set ups are winning. Great stuff as always and makes me say hmmmm
You are so right, there are just a bazillion variables. After working on this is just created more questions for me. Really interesting to investigate.
Wow! I had no idea that sonars were that loud. And hearing you talk with mic under water was crazy too! I mean, I grew up being told to be quite while we were fishing, but never have heard what it was like before. Thank you for this awesome video.
Thanks for watching!
Bro ! You are the Shiit I so appreciate your videos. Keep doing what you’re doing. You have no idea how many people you’re impacting. But you’re a little different From most TH-camrs. You really get down to the nitty-gritty. No one keeps it 100 like you do.
Thanks! Will do!
Wow! Another tremendous video! Thank you Steve.
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent info. For tarpon fishermen that keep the sonar on and wonder why they catch no fish, here is the answer.
Capt Glenn Musella, Ft Pierce, Florida
These videos are absolutely amazing.. i had no idea how loud the sonar was as well as just movement and talking... i will go into stealth mode from here on out... thank you steve
Glad you like them!
I'll add another comment because I'm so impressed with it. You should test the sound of casting, dropping talons and power poles. And test the sounds of the Hydrowave. Do the graphs sound like any of the options.
Thank you for all these ideas! There are definitely lots more videos to be done.
wow that was a fantastic video. Thank You!!!
Glad you liked it!
Great video! Thank you for putting in the time and effort to produce it.
My pleasure!
Great episode. I was amazed how loud the sonar was compared to the trolling motor.
Me too. I thought it would be just the opposite.
Amazing stuff!!!
Thank you! It was a lot of fun to do and so good to have my son home. Miss my boys.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors my son lived in Texas for several years before moving back to Michigan. It’s great now, especially with the 4 grandkids. A guy stopped me on the way out of church yesterday and told me what a fine man my son was. Now that’s a blessing, especially on Father’s Day. God bless you Steve.
Dang! Never knew it was that loud!! I fish from a kayak and may try fishing without the transducer on sometimes. That sound has to have an affect on the fish for sure.
Excellent information 👍 I like the standby mode on my Helix 9 for these reasons. I think it makes a difference.
Thanks so much. I know it is tough, but it would be awesome to see bass respond/not respond to the different sounds.
Most definitely. That is going to be a challenging one for sure, but hopefully, I can get something figured out.
Great video! It would be nice to hear a windy day vs the calm day.
Thanks for the idea!
Excellent content!
Thank you!
I always turn graphs to "stop sonar"if I'm fishing super shallow especially on flats. Also, run trolling motor constant at about 25% instead of stop and go. I've noticed a big difference when the bite is tough, or when there is little to no wind.
Totally agree with you. When that wind is absent it seems like every little noise is probably sensed somehow.
Excellent research and findings! Agree this channel should be a five million subs easy.
Wow, thanks!
Awesome stuff. Thanks, Steve. Great video, again. Imagine the racket that fish must endure down there when a lake is full of Bass fishermen running all their motors and electronics. It must sound like a rock concert happening in their backyard. 🤯
It has got to be quite the ruckus for sure. Then add in recreational boaters. Wow. Lots of commotion.
Simply WOW!
Best TH-cam channel in my feed. Thanks Steve!
Glad you enjoy it!
Always...cool brother bass fishing is what keeps me alive..love it thank you
Glad you enjoy it!
Great video.
wow great video very interesting even louder than what I thought it would its a wonder we ever catch a fish with them on thank you for what you do love this channel my favorite by far.
Thanks 👍
You Tha Man Steve!
that is a greatvideo good job
Thanks!
Super cool ! Not exactly what I thought I might hear. Dang, I must be "clickin" away with 2 graphs and a 360 going !
I LIKE ALL YOUR VIDEOS GREAT ONES.
Glad you like them!
Yes Professor Steve 😂😂 another solid video with Loads of Food for thought😊😊
Thanks for the time you put it these videos ❤🌞😎🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🙌🙌🙌
Thanks! And thanks so much watching.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors Always a pleasure to watch your content 🙌🙌🙌
Interesting video Steve
Thanks 👍
In another video on spinner baits you stated that bass can’t hear above 600 hz. Those graph sounds seem like they are at a higher frequency than that so fish may not be able or hear that at all. Oh, BTW, I’m really glad I found your channel. Keep up the great topics.
Thanks! Yes, I would like to go back to this footage and run it through the filter and see what happens for sure.
Excellent video. Thanks. I try to actually turn my graphs off when not needed. I also run an aluminum boat with carpet. Even I can hear creaks and moans on the deck as I step around. I wonder how much noise does the heads of the new lowrance ghost trolling motor make? They creak alot above water.
Thanks for this video, been wondering about this for a while. I usually turn on my sonar and forget about it all day, definitely rethinking that now lol
Glad it was helpful!
wow! very interesting. would be cool to see what a paddle hitting the water sounds like - from a boat or kayak, etc. could even test out wooden versus plastic
That is a great idea. I never even thought of that one. Thank you!
Yeap I'm definitely ready to hear that! I haven't heard Garmins is more quiet, I would have thought they all sounded similar? I'm curious in difference between FFS transducer & regular 3n1. That's 3n1 was loud! Makes me glad I turn mine on standby when I'm not using it. Unless I'm scanning & marking waypoints. I keep my transducer on standby so I'm not pinging all the time. Im curious to see fish reaction when the transducers are turned on?
I have a video idea I think will show their reaction. I just have to get it all coordinated and pull it off.
Awesome I'm looking forward to seeing that!
I often wondered if tapping your foot did the fish the way music does us. Everything is energy including sound
Really good video. Thank you. The experts / scientists say bass cannot hear above 500 hz. It would be great if you had a mixer and could roll off the frequencies above 550 and see what the remaining noise sounds like.
It is something I’m definitely working on. I was thinking a low pass filter would probably be a good place to start. Thank you!
Good test. Thanks.
Thank you!
You are just Great. I really Appreciate all your videos. Thanks for taking the time to educate us. How can we reward you???? For me, hearing the sounds of a spotlock setting would be very interesting. Thanks again Thanks again
Thanks! I plan on doing some more tests, especially with things like the spot lock. There are some days it seems from on the boat deck it is super loud, but maybe it's just me.
Eye opening
Thanks Steve that very good information and I enjoy all your other videos they all have great information thanks I try to practice them and it's helped me out a lot
Awesome! Thank you.
"I would love to hear what crank baits, buzz baits, rattlers, jerk baits those straight loud baits sound like underwater...Amazing Video"
I should have all of those videos coming soon! Should be fun to work on.
Great stuff Steve! I would love to hear what sounds you hear underwater if music is being played on the boat
That is a great question! I will try to get to that. Thank you.
I think what it might come down to is, just how used to that sound are the fish in a particular water.....If it is commonplace throughout the water, it might not register a serious alert to them...nonetheless, it shows just how much sound does travel under water!!!
Wow! What an eye opener (or should I say ear opening). I recently purchased 2 10in and 2 7in Garmin with livescope. After watching your video, I wonder if I should use them in tournaments. You always enlighten me with your content. Keep educating us,and God bless.
It will be interesting to do the FFS sound video. I hope to have it done soon.
Phenomenal! Great job on this!
Thanks so much!
Good video Mr. Steve; interesting to be sure. That pinging directly under your boat sounds almost like a chatter bait.
I guess to a bass the only difference is that the sound is more or less stationary and it doesn't create a felt pulse on the bass's lateral line like a chatter bait or a Colorado bladechurning through the water.
It did sound like one! I was really fascinated with how it changed going deeper into the "cone." It was a lot of fun to work on.
Lately I’ve been wondering the same thing and I’m going to try turning off my graphs when I’m on spots I don’t need them but it also seems like if ya keep your ultrex on 3 or lower it’s not too bad sound wise…great vid
Thanks!
great vid, very interesting! though it's weirding me out how you pronounce "console" as "council" 😄
How much of these sounds fall within the hearing range of the fish?
That is an excellent question and I am still trying to get that figured out. I know in some research I have read that bass tend to respond more to lower frequencies, so that would I think eliminate a lot of the top pitches. Hopefully, more research, testing and answer to come.
Great video Steve. I knew the transducers produced a sound but didn’t realize it was that loud. I usually turn off all my graphs when I’m fishing shallow and around docks. Also, I run my trolling motor on as low a speed as I can get by with, trying to be as stealthy as possible. I don’t have FFS but just curious what it sounds like? Good information. Keep up the good work.
I will definitely be doing some forward facing tests! Hopefully I can get all the different brands together and see what happens.
Crazy what the fish can hear from above. I was listening to the audio book "How to think like a fish" by Jeremy Wade talks about how, when he carp fishes, he moves super slow, almost crawls 20 ft back from the shore. I though this was a bit extreme but after this video, seems like a reasonable behavior. Thanks for this cool video once again! Any plans on doing what it sounds like approaching from shore to a bank of water?
Also, in that book, Jeremy talks about how light bends and to fish, though a bank angler is standing back from the bank 5 ft, it could be perceived to the fish, that the angler is leaning over the bank shore line.
Those are some great topic ideas! I will add them to my list. Thank you!
Man running both graphs sounds like the drums in 'Hot for the teacher'. That's crazy how loud they are. Guess i need to turn those off when i get to a spot.
Lol. Great comparison. It was crazy for sure and I definitely didn't expect it to be that audible.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors one thing I am surprised you didnt try was using the mic right under the boat with just the trolling motor in spot lock to see how loud it is. Everyone always makes a point of saying how to limit trolling motor use but sounds like the graphs are way more intrusive.
Steve, we want to hear what forward facing sonar sounds like!
I definitely want to get that one done. I don't have any on my boat so I will have to line up some and then get that one out for everyone.
Thanks for sharing Steve! Valuable research and info. Now that you've performed these tests, how would you adjust your strategy?
I definitely feel that I would run the motor as low as I can get away with and when fishing shallow probably turn all the graphs off, or at least not let the side-imaging left on when fishing shallow after I have checked/scanned an area. Lots more questions to investigate for sure.
Thanks Steve!
Of all the noise we make when out fishing, I'm most concerned about how the fish react to the electronics. Do they accept it sonar pings as part of their environment, or will they start to associate the "ticking" with danger and turn off or even vacant the area.
Think it might be wise to scout the area with sounders, drop a waypoint, and sneak back an hour later in stealth-mode (no electronics).
I use Mega360 to position/orient myself to shallow structure. Was looking at forward facing sonar, but I am going to take a pass on it for a couple of reasons. Think it distracts from actually fishing (too much time looking at the screen), the technology is not mature enough yet (images leave a lot to be desired), it's way over priced and I strongly suspect that the fish will be more cautious (or even put off feed) by being hosed repeatedly by the sonar beam.
I used to live in a city, retired to the country, and now realize how noisy cities are. Wonder how noisy a lake is and how it affects how fish forage. How much "noise" does a crayfish or minnow make relative to a fishing lure?
Being a fly fisherman, I've always done better in stealth mode fishing realistic imitations than using aggressive tactics and large garish attractor flies.
Cheers!
These are all excellent points! I am excited to keep investigating all of this.
Please do this test with forward facing sonor.
I will soon! I haven’t got FFS on my boat yet so I will get with someone who does. Thank you!
An old man told me out on the lake what time to turn off my depth finders and I would catch a whole lot more fish I did and it worked
It would be interesting to hear some of the very early models and what they were like.
As always, very interesting. Real life vs. Hearsay. Hope you had a great Fathers Day.
Steve, are you sure the mic was picking up actual noise and not getting interference or something? Like swimming in the water while sonar is on...don't hear it?
That is a great question. I’m pretty sure there was no interference, but still learning all this stuff. I will keep investigating- thank you!
I think he covered that when he started and stopped noise sources, interference would be constant.
@@SteveRogersOutdoorsPlease keep investigating and showing us your results. Bass fishing is not even my top hobby, yet you are my favorite TH-camr! So interesting!
I saw a video where is guy did underwater sound from Garmin Livescope LV32 vs LV34 transducers. It was a stark difference even between those two. The LV34 has greater range but much louder than the LV32.
I will be really interesting to dive into those.
I've tested sounds on regular graphs myself... Really wish you could have tested ffs sound
I definitely plan on it. I don’t own any FFS yet so I need to get with some friends who have it. It will be interesting to hear for sure!
I've been swimming and heard the transducer ping from a LONG distance. I wondered if ffs sounds the same and if it's more intense with pointed at you or if you can hear it the same no matter where it's pointed. Some anglers say fish feel it, but I think they can hear it no matter the direction it's pointing
Does live scope or active target transducer make similar noise?
I’m actually working on that video next week. It should be out soon.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors nice looking forward to it
very informative Steve, great and quick testing, love it - great job - looking forward to more of these- - -the best part is you give us the data quickly and efficiently, not some 1hr test of things, great work
Thanks! I appreciate it.
The next step in the study should be, are fish reacting to those sounds. I would find it hard to believe they aren’t, but you never know.
I am really trying to figure out a way to get that one done. I'm not quite sure how to pull it off yet, but one thing is for sure, I will probably need some help. Lol.
Steve get ahold of the guy that has the TH-cam channel bama bass. He has a pond that he build and stocked with bass and he tons of under water cameras. It would be a perfect place to test something like that.
Yea who knows, maybe they react in a good way haha, that sonar pining sounds a lot like the rattle from crankbaits and chatterbaits lol
@@SteveRogersOutdoorsmaybe have camera placed as usual around fish and then turn on electronics and observe reactions. That would be interesting to test. Thanks for all you do for bass fishing community Steve. It is greatly appreciated and informative! 🎣
Pre-placed cameras to show reactions-but how to get a camera feed in place without impacting the study? A possible collaboration with BamaBass-although water clarity may affect outcome.
Also curious on learned behaviors-larger fish that may have been caught/released may respond differently than smaller, naive fish. Kind of want to just stick a transducer in the tank at Bass Pro Shops 😂
Would putting the finder on standby achieve the same as shutting it off. Dumb question but had to ask.
It should. I know a lot of anglers that do just that.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors Thank you Steve. Absolutely love your channel.
What about FFS and mega ?
Maybe try different brands and compare sounds
Definitely plan to get those done. All excellent topics. Thank you!