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I guarantee this is better than anything you’ll find on TV today
You are 100 percent correct. They don’t make them like they used to. Thank god for TH-cam. And high quality history content creators like Drachinifel and Mark Felton
I totally agree ... and my feel is that 'TV' should be used only and in very low doses as background noise these days 😗
better than spongebob ??
I would like to have my last adventure to be on the Bowdoin. My friend and are getting old. Our children and grand children are in their 40s and 50s. We live on an Island in Maine. Our dear husbands have long since departed. The harbor we live in is called Southwest Harbor. Most of our lives we have watched those beautiful boats glide by which still deliver cargo here and there up and down the coast of Maine.
We can but dream. Lovely video. Thank you so much.
I was a Schooner Crew on the Ernestina-Morressey with Captain Dan Moreland on the 1987 Great Lakes Tour.
The Ernestina-Moressey, then Moressey with Captain Bob Bartlett was sheathed in Greenheart wood to withstand the Arctic Explorations in the 1940s.
Romantic stuff! And clever info about Schooners!
Macmillan's Bowdoin was not the first schooner designed to withstand being caught in the ice pack. Fridtjof Nansen's "Fram", designed by Norwegian shipwright Colin Archer, was similarly designed with a nearly V-shaped hull strengthened on the inside with thick beams and sheathed in greenheart. She was launched in 1892 and was of c. 400 tons, rigged as a three-masted schooner with square sails on the foremast and also carried a steam engine with a retractable propeller. As opposed to the Bowdoin's one year in the ice, the Fram was intentionally caught in the polar ice pack north of Siberia and stayed in the ice for three years. Nansen's original plan had been to let her drift with the ice straight over the North Pole, but she took a more southerly course. Fram was later used by Otto Sverdrup to discover the islands west of Ellesmere in the Canadian Arctic and she also carried Amundsen's party to Antarctica, where they won the race to the South Pole.
Nope, no, and no. Norway didn't know a snowball's ass from a New England schooner. Go home. Maine perfected these and no Euro-trash can say other.
It's an american documentary, do you really expect them to even just make a side note of a non-american achievement?
@@JadeDelphi 1) I didn't say "New England schooner"; a schooner is a schooner based on its rigging, not on its provenance. 2) I am home, where my ancestors have lived since the Stone Age. If you aren't Native American, you are the one who should go home. 3) Keep a civil tongue in your head, this isn't Facebook.
Kiitos Jarmo :)
Great documentation i Love it
Good film on some of the important roles schooners played in American history.
Used to love shows like this. Damn you Discovery channel for changing things.
Bruh it's history channel
One important use of slaked lime was in the outdoor toilets of the period. It kept odors from overwhelming toilet users and helped control flies.
Another great schooner, the Grand Turk, was also built by the French family, my ancestors, in Columbia Falls, Maine.
You should be proud Jade!
Cool!!! I'm from Maine as well and I'm (hopefully) headed to see on a schooner soon :)
Guys I really enjoyed this amazing documentary many many thanks for uploading n wish you all a Merry Xmas n a happy new year Please keep posting
Great documentary well done thanks.
Built intricate models of Bluenose II, the America
and Golden Hind...so fell in love with this indescri-
bable video! Many thanks!! 👏👏🤗🤗🌹🌹❤❤
ver funny Bagsy really this was great - history and present
Yarmouth, Nova Scotia built some of the finest schooners that sailed. No mention of that famous ship the "Bluenose" , appearing to this day on the Canadian dime.
kwambam1 or the T. K. Bentley from advocate N.S one of the largest tern schooners
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@@stuarttren3701 My family are from Spencer's Island and Advocate.
Nope we just built the best one of the one's we built was the Bluenose.
I think it was the yanks who were the pirates/rebels or in todays words terrorists.
Fantástico...Espetaculo!!!
I love this ! 💖
"A tall ship and a Star to sail her by"
I watched the movie Captains Courageous with Spencer Tracy. I was interested in the livelihood of these brave sailors and how they lived.
Now I want to ride one feel what they felt and share even on a small scale what it was like.
Bravo Zulu, Great job.
Very enjoyable and educational.
That was a fascinating video...
OUTSTANDING JOB!! To; Mr. Renny Stackpole, It is great to see you still alive and healthy. I should have known that after teaching would come curatorship. ALL-A-TAUT-O aboard "CAPELLA" sdh in CT
Beautiful video
Very good, and nice pice of history.
Excellent stuff bro
In talking about the Thomas W Lawson wrecking and showed a picture of the Peter Ardale wrecked near the mouth of the Columbia River on the Oregon coast.
You forgot the most famous schooner. The America, that sailed to England and entered a race for the 100 Guinea Cup, won it and returned home with what was to become the "Americas Cup".
Webb Trekker: There would have been more famous ones I expect from the War of 1812 and there was even a schooner passing messages at the Battle of Trafalgar AND I think it took the news of the Victory and Nelsons death back to England Which to a Brit is more important than a Cup
The name schooner "Bowden" was launched in 1921, Hodgdon Brothers Shipyard, East Boothbay, Maine, built with a v-shaped hull to withstand the ice, following the wish of Mr. Donald B. MacMillan. The first ship to follow this principle but was the norwegian 3-masted schooner "Fram" (="ahead") of the Polar scientist Mr. Friedtjof Nansen. The order to build it, was given then to Mr. Colin Archer (remember the name?). The "Fram" was built in 1892 and was the first ship to follow the circular drift of the arctic ice. It is a museum ship in the harbour of the Norwegian capital Oslo now. Schooners are still used commercially in Indonesia as far as I know. Perhaps the earth is too flat in the USA to recognize the efforts of other countries and people from time to time?😉
A "schooner" has a main mast is taller than the fore mast or masts, some photos of single mast boats they are not schooners they are "sloops". The reason they were so popular by the US and Canada was that there pro-dominant wind is a land sea or sea land breeze and the schooner was best suited for reaching across the wind therefore the ideal ship for their waters and trade routes. Where as the rest of the world sailed the trade winds that blow the ships along therefore suiting the square rigged ships they managed to completely miss this fact out. Great footage of classic sailing boats if you don't mind the story telling of the narrator giving a very one sided account. I was hoping to see some footage of the Grand Banks Schooner sailing there is some great footage out there I realise its Canadian but it is more interesting.
As a newbie to sailing, and speaker of EASL, I thank you for helping me finally understand the meaning of "reaching", the operative word being "across" the predominant wind direction. just race, no tacking, clever.
Partially correct what makes a schooner unique is they can sail 30° to 40° into the wind. A square rig can only sail 60° into the wind at best. Schooners are also faster due to there more shallow draft and narrower width.
Finally !! somebody explaining why square rigs (which seem genuinely impractical) anyway were used over centuries! Thank you!
The advantages of schooner rigs are obvious. What needs explanation is why they did not replace notoriously clumsy and labour-intensive square rigs much earlier. Nobody ever mentions this.
Right, how can this be about schooners and never define what a schooner is, a fore and aft rigged ship with the mainmast being the aftermost mast, carrying the largest sail. It would also have been interesting to have a little more practical comparison of the support and running rigging of fore and aft rigged ships compared to square rigged ships. Poetry and folklore wouldn't have been the point to people spending their money to build a working boat.
A great tale of schooners on the US east coast, too bad the schooners in the rest of the world got skipped!
Doug Mcdonell like the Bluenose and a slew of other great schooners from Nova Scotia
The most spiritual ship in the recorded human history so far ! Made to do many different jobs as possible #
I love schooners, and I agree in a historical way, but seen a racing cat lately? Holy flying boat....!
There were Brigs and Brigantines, Barks and Barkantines, ships and sloops and schooners with two masts, and three, sometimes four, five and even six. Large or small, freshly painted or faded and frayed it made no difference for each seemed destined to leave its' nameplate on the sands of Hatteras. Oak and cedar, mahogany and teak wood with hand hewn pegs, iron spikes, bolts and rivets...
Lovely words
The most beautiful schooner ever built was the Bluenose, from Lunenburg Nova Scotia.
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Amen
Fishing schooner maybe ... but may one propose the William Fife designed "Susanna" as the most beautiful?
If you said schooner in a Australian pub , you would get a cold beer.
That was really good.
Rolf Krake, a Scottish-built ironclad turret ship serving in the Danish navy and seeing action in the 1864 Second War of Schleswig, was a schooner-rigged vessel which allowed it to be propelled by sail as well as its steam-powered single-screw propeller.
Super interesting
Man i hope this small sail cargo movement growing today keeps going. The environmental benefit of wooden sailing cargo is worth it i.m.o. Screw giant tankers as a species we need to prioritize and subsidise greener more substanable methods.
100 years ago the Bluenose was built in Lunenburg, Nova Scotia. You're welcome.
Sailing ships are so beautiful.
Sails, creaking and groaning. Feeling the power of the wind. That is sad. Bob Bessell ex-Quartermaster Schooner ‘Velma’.
People don't realize the difficulty in sleeping in a beast that is constantly creaking and groaning, and yet we love them anyways. Great post lol
The title of this should be, Great Ships Schooners of the United States. I love the United States however in their love of country Americans tend to overlook other nations that are great as well. In every way the Bluenose, which was a working ship, sliced through water best. It was fastest even when it was an old ship at the end of its career. Simply put American money could not take away the reputation of the craftsmen who built the Bluenose in Lunenburg, Nova Scotia.
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This was made for American TV consumption, not for TH-cam.
@Luffaman You are correct that there is nothing wrong with this. It does however promote the stereotype that Americans don't know or care about anything beyond their own borders. This show provides a very incomplete picture.
@@NorthernFirehawk There is a history of American schooners in the US and there is also a related history of American schooners in Canada. I think you can learn something of the US heritage here. Why dont you put together a matching film of the Canadian heritage. I would love to hear about the ships Canadians built that led to the Bluenose.
@@ONECOUNT They are suited to the east coast of America and Canada as the prevailing wind is a reach . Unfortunately not popular in the UK as they were not ideally suited to going to windward . We favoured a narrow cutter type. Not such a good type overall in my view.
Hold Fast ! 👊👊
and I hear nothing about Lake Superior schooners! Once metal ships came around, the schooner had her masts cut down and serve as lowly barges which were towed. :) had to get my bit in about the U.P. early sailing vessels :)
We just love to argue!
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My eye swept over the screen, and I got excited. Then I noticed the video clip was not about Oklahoma football.
My uncle's 4 masted schooner, the C.S. Holmes lasted until WWII. Photographs of 4 masted schooners are likely this one.
About 30 minutes in, he pronounces kiln,
as "kill." FINALLY! Someone gets it correct!
steve
Great ships
These were very popular with The Royal Navy in the Med.
I am corrected.
The USS CONSTITUTION is the oldest sailing ship still afloat.
And it was built in 1797.
BTW its nickname OLD IRONSIDE was because the Brits cannon balls bounce off it like iron in the war of 1812.
The brits called her ironside. And she scared the Limeys.
Reason the canbon balks bounced off was due to her haul design and she was made of American Oak. Which is superior in strength to the wood the British had. ( why they didn't use Canada oak is beyond me.)
To start with it is nonsense Constitution never fought a ship it wasn't 50% bigger than and ones that carried 18lb guns vs Consitution's 24 lb guns. THe President built to the same design as the Constitution and generally consider a better ship was badly shashed up by the 24lb guns of HMS Emdymion
Schooners are beautiful boats, but to sail around the world, I would prefere a ketchrig.
Because the schooner's mainsail is too big and too far back on the boat, now, if you have a constant tradewind from the stearn, you will have to take the mainsail down, to prevent the boat from jibing. On a ketch, you can take the small mizzen down, and that leaves you with a big mainsail way forward on the deck, which is pulling the boat. Much better.
7:32, that is a 90's tie if I have ever seen one!
When I was a kid, I used to cut the grass at Oliver Hazard Perry's birthplace. A beautiful old house, then owned by a stockbroker.
The sea and the sailing ships are in my blood and I enjoy anything about them. In fact my name is the original word for the "sails" of a ship.
I come from a long line of riffraff myself.
They’re trying to say it can point better! Going into the wind more. 🖖🏼😏🇺🇸💨
the term 'ship' is wildly misused. It properly refers to a square rigged sailing vessel of three masts and this design was most common in larger vessels. A schooner is a vessel with fore and aft sails with two or more masts with the foremast (the one in front) being shorter than those aft of it. A vessel with a square rig on the foremast and fore and aft sails on the mast (s) behind is a brigantine, a vessel with fore and aft sails and one mast is a sloop. Many think that sq rigged vessels can only sail with the wind behind (downwind) this is simply not true and they could make good speed with a beam wind and mayb even a little forward of that. Fore and aft rigged vessels such as schooners can sail much closer to the wind and can do what no sq rig can do, turn into the wind when they come about (reverse direction), this is called coming into irons and quickly reduces the forward motion of the ship that makes steering impossible, this problem can box in a ship on a lee shore and explains many ship wrecks. generally a schooner can sail with a smaller crew than a ship of the same general size.
The OLDEST sailing ship in the US is the
USS Constitution. Built around 1812. Which BTW is still in service. And perhaps the oldest war ship still in service.
Now the Brits have s rival of the USS Constitution. It's older.
HOWEVER its not in service. And unless something happen to OLD IRONSIDE, USS Constitution's nickname, even if the Limey is put back into service. The USS Constitution has served more years in service.
On a side note. The US Coast Guard also has a sailing ship. But its haul is made of steal. Made around WWII. Dont get me wrong. The Coasty ship is pretty as well.
I understand that Coast Guard officer serve a short time on their sailing ship.
I also understand it on one of the great lakes. But has served on the oceans at times.
I love watching docs about the history of sailing ships. Fucking beautiful they are.
I hate that the docs are actually mostly about war. Worse yet, that men still argue about whose beloved tax farm killed more people.
I'm pretty sure that the first schooner, probably to be found soon, was flash-frozen north of Maine, USA in the huge wave caused by the impact of the comets that ended the last Ice Age and it was crewed by Atlanteans some 12 to 15 thousand years ago. I'm good with that even if some ancient aliens were part of the crew. Gracias por tu video. RT sends, Colonia Centro Histórico, Puebla, México.
Schooners are originali grom Croatia
And it is calld škuna
Schoon means clean in Dutch. Flatbottom means less barnicles..
No memtion of the Blue Nose. Pride of Canada and immortalized on the Canadian dime.
Fastest schooner ever built it beat every American schooner in every race and retired undefeated.
Of course the Americans don't mention this.
Where is the effort on the minesweeper that changed the world?
3'' planks, though!
Thanks :O)
Schoon is Flemish, means beautiful. In the Netherlands they use the word mooi. Ooooo not oe. OO like in oh.
the Naratator is confusing Schooner with Gaff rig.
These sails are Gaff rigged.
Schooner refers to the way the masts are set. And the type of haul for many.
As for where it comes from?
Where their where gaff riggs in the time of the Roman Empire. So where it comes from is a long time ago and unknown.
Also a Gaff is close to a Junk rig.
One can see how they are alike.
I would on a guess say at least 1000 BC and from the Mideast.
It wasn't clear. Though there were clues that the narrator doesn't know his rigging until the British ship with a rear Gaff sail. He called it a Schooner sail.
I really enjoy these marine documentaries, they are very educational, thanks . Only I am suspicious of the claim you guys got your independence.
Independence? by 2030 you will own nothing, be “chipped” like cattle, and eating bugs…
Romantic? Aura?
There is no sailing ship more beautiful than a schooner. This may be debatable, but when you add in how well she handles into the wind compared to a square-sailer, and how beautiful she is compared to modern stuff, the schooner is, by far, the best of the sailing ships ever created.
Now, if these modern idiots could get this idea across, more people would be on the water. Fuck, come to think of it, let's NOT tell the high-tech about these wooden wonders, and keep sailing the way we should. Nature and science meet at navigation, and agree at beauty.
But it wasn't the schooner that started the American revolution, it was a little mailing vessel, the Hannah. It was not a Washington commission, but a private vessel. Hannah led the chase by running from British customs schooner *Gaspee* , and due to the little Ketch's non-existent draft, the Gaspee was caught at what's now known as Gaspee Point. She was promptly and duly looted, plundered, and burned to the waterline, with no survivors. Piracy, or nation-forming? I can bus-ride there in an hour and a half or bike ride (Schwinn, not Harley) in 45 minutes. Welcome to United States Zero. King, bring it on.
Now: "What have we done?" Maybe we should give it all back to the UK?
As always: everybody explains the advantages of schooner rigs as compared to square rigs. But nobody ever explains why square rigs weren't replaced much earlier by schooner rigs.
Trade routes where used with the wind as it was faster to get goods across the planet 🌍
Several reasons: materials strong enough to make it reliable were rare prior to the era in which schooners were common, as rigging and sails would tear or break too often, and the trade winds on the ocean meant that so long as you needn't worry about schedule, you could just change latitude until you found favorable wind, and tacking and wearing were not so disastrous. But Lord only knows how much more work they are to sail and run and how many extra lines there are. With the development of the Gaff Rig, as the most common Schooner Rig is called, even now it remains competitive against the Bermuda Rig in its various incarnations, which is the other common one. The two dominate modern pleasure craft, even those too small to be Schooners.
The Cuahutemoc from Mexico - what kind of sailing vessel is that designated as? A Schooner perhaps as well??
That is an excellent question! I'm not sure I would have to go through my family ship logs to find that question. But I'll get back to you.
What longevity of old sea craft technology. Reminds me of certain aircraft that are also continuously being built brand new 60 - 80 years later. Meanwhile look at the vulnerability of automotive technology to demand for advancement for commercial purposes, but has durability been lost.
well as a marine technician I can tell you that new boats are sometimes well but as new and improved resins and infusion had made good progress (fiberglass boats) but as for the cars they have too much unusefull things and electronics that in no time will make those boats too expensive to maintain,
@@teknotikpointbiz the plan is to make things obsolete in a few years. Just past the final payment. I am also a boat builder. Over 40 years. Infusion is no better. Big waste of resin. Compensates for a lack of skilled laminators. I can achieve better resin to glass ratio with a bucket and roller. Or a wet out gun. Traditional vacuum bag is a very good method to bond core material. But F.G could last forever. Depends on an owner wishing to rehab. Or no. Skilled men are becoming a rare commodity.
@@boatguy64 Long live the skilled craftsman!
And now Francois Gabart is about to finish a round the world solo sailing record in the trimaran Macif in about 44 days! No cargo on board of cause.
Essex class some were built in Essex Mass.
Schooner tuna, the tuna with a heart.
Was that on Gung Ho ??? What movie was it ???
Lol
I very much enjoyed this film but I have one question....Why are the wheels out in the open? What not have the wheels in a wheel house/ pilot house??? I would not want to stand there out in the open in the rain, blazing sun and rough winds trying to steer the ship.
Mostly because you had to steer the ship with the wind 🌬 and you needed visual and sensitive inputs to achieve that !
around aproximately 6:50 that looks fun
Anyone know anything about a private yacht named intrepid from ~ 1920 my dad first job ~19yo as radio operator ?
How could they leave out the great and last unlimited international yacht race from US to England. The race was won by the magnificent three masted schooner Atlantic. It crossed the Atlantic in 10 days, a record that stood for nearly a century.
In 23.08.1851. schooner AMERICA won cup 100 pound sterling later-AMERICA CAP.
Back then when Benjamin Franklin sail to England to talk to the king about the taxation of whiskey it would take at least 2 months prior to get from Boston to England Shores.
The whole documentary is misleading. Schooner is only a sort of rigging a medium-sized sailing ship. It is not a particular or even worse, it is NOT an American vessel. Schooners were and still are found throghout the world, all of them with the higher mast aft. Heavy seagoing ships were squareriggers.
Wrong. Designed in America, as is the use of white oak, you cretinous wanker. Go back to Europe.
I'm more of a Spooner.
In Dutch the name is schoener, this sounds exact as the English schooner. While the o in the Dutch Schoner sounds like the oa in boat. (means cleaner and in old Dutch more beautiful )
So I do not think schooner has something to do with it gorgeous looks. The schooner is an American development, so I think you guys invented the name schooner and we Dutch just copied that and wrote it down like it sounded your "oo" is written in Dutch as "oe" so schoener. The schooner sailplan became very populair in The Netherlands around 1900. But in a totally different hull form. We call them platbodems (flat bottoms) . Most have swords (most times one on each side) but not all flatbottoms are schooners.
Her wishes to be spooned came about, and suddenly found that she had been schooned!
If it came from “schöner” then it means nicer or pretty then the “c” is pronounced as in “shoe” or “shore” German and Dutch don’t have a hard C sound. They use K
From which language is this?
@@eddie1078 German, the "ö" in the german word "schöner" (meaning "more beautiful") sounds like the "u" in the english word "murder" or the "e" in the word "herd" (as in "cowherd") or the "i" in the english word "bird" or the "o" in "word".
Hahahaha funny
a donkey engine refers to the motion the connecting rod made being similar to a mules kicking leg
How do they keep the ice from melting while traveling across the world?
Believe it or not they devised a method of storing it in crates with hay. It was devised just outside of Boston where there are many freshwater ponds. One is even called "Fresh Pond". Ice from these ponds made it around the world.
@@myradioon thank you it took me a few seconds to remember what that video was about.
19:18 everyone forgets about Indiana...
Owen Martin - Jones?
"THE BLUENOSE" The most famous Schooner. Ever.
Still, I find a square rigged ship much more beautiful.
Perhaps this article should be named American schooners since that all it talks about.
Perhaps a link to a more inclusive documentary?
You know it's funny, People make a comment highlighting the evidence (this video) that americans are narrow minded and oblivious to the rest of the world and it gets perceived as a complaint.
My attitude is a little different. American media make movies etc for Americans, not the rest of the world. Expecting something different is not practical.
The schooner rig does not work well in UK so few built . Need a rig to go upwind against westerlies. On American seaboard they are reaching most of the time so schooner works well.
Pretty well skewered me there ! I can see the error I made . They are what I called Baltic Traders and I always thought they were built in the Baltic. Oh dear - turns out many were built in the west country. Ignorance on my part.
Some of those you mention are ketches Hobah ,Clara May and Troubadour seems to be Bermudan .
I still don't think someone trading under sail out of the south or east would build a schooner (in spite of America's victory in 1851) and I don't think a schooner could win the Fastnet although they have featured in all the other classic ocean races. But you win !
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Schooners were built by almost all seafaring nations. If you want to see your favorite nation's schooner history, you are free to film, edit and post it. Otherwise, be silent and enjoy these beautiful ships.
No Schooner! Is greater than a Yankee Schooner! Regardless of what nation designed them the Americans perfected them.
@@robertschooner1812 Yankee Clipper
You know what the beauty of those ice carrying schooners was? They were unsinkable!! Think about it, ice is lighter than water. If a ice ship loaded with an ice cargo completely flooded its holds, it would actually sit HIGHER on the water, because all the ice in the hold would be pressing its way up against the ceiling of the hold trying to reach the surface!!
Schoone in dutch means nice, good looking, and it's pronounced close to the sh in english in ship. In german is schön and in old english sheen, so pronounce it like skooner is rather weird. But anyway, nice ship though.
Actually we do not know the origins of the word Schooner in my family! I believe the documentary could be exactly right! As it is an introduced from the old world into the new. Regardless they are phenomenal vessels! And are extremely fast even by today's standards.
Too bad that there was no mention of the lumber schooners of the western coasts.
If the engineers at TH-cam had any b@llz they’d let us comment on the ads.
and besides my other remark to this doku mentary the dutch word Schoon is a dutch word for beauty
and saying there she beautyies is semantically nonsense
I would love to sail aboard one of these, not as a crewman but as a passenger! I would mush rather be on one of these than a modern cruse ship that are just overpriced and overrated floating hotels and resorts!
Should you ever get the chance to travel to Turkey(country) you can sail aboard one of their sailing ships called a „Gulet“. You can even rent one and sail it yourself or hire a captain and crew. Beautiful boats to be sure. I was stationed in Turkey from 1991-1993 while in the USAF. I did a lot of exploring on my days off work. Russian boar hunting, deep sea fishing, snow skiing, hiking and camping. I had gotten a Turkish drivers license and drove to many sites not available to most visitors. Small coastal villages and towns were some of the best treasures. Cheers
Perhaps this video should be called "background music drowning out narrator."