Another similar type of product that came out semi-recently, is Monument Hobbies's Newsh. It's an acrylic weathering medium you combine with acrylic paints to achieve a similar result. An interesting tidbit about streaking grime. As I understand it, at some point in the past, AK changed the formula for it. There's a video off the Grimdark Compendium where he shows off the difference between the two. It's the primary reason why he started the Villiany Inks line off of his website!
@@the_kieran_show Please do,.. I just got a bottle because I had two bottles of Streaking grime (the dark one) explode in my drawer and that was def an issue! I do like with the medium you can add whatever colour you like!!!
As someone who'd prefer not to give AK my money, I'm glad to hear good things about Newsh; I'm waiting for my local store to get it in stock. I've been watching Grimdark Compendium for awhile now and am looking forward to eventually trying his inks too!
@@Dasein1 I m still not certain what Happened there with AK I just have a wife that will kick my ass if I spill toxic enamel paint all over our new apartment. I also like having control over what colour the grime is.
Depends on the colour to be honest. Have found that if it’s on top of contrast paint then it’s more prone to rubbing off when you use the mineral spirits. But most normal colours shouldn’t need it, you can always do a test on a random sprue to make sure!
I use Enamel washes for every single project I do, the ability to remove excess after drying whilst not needing the drying time of oils is massive. Check out Villany Inks (from the creator of the Grimdark Compendium), he's bringing out multiple colours in enamel washes to cover several different saturated finishes
Love a bit of streak and grime, makes things easy! I've got a bottle of Newsh from Monument on the way which im looking forward to trying out. Apparently, it creates a similar effect for acrylics... I guess I'll find out!
I use oils and enamels on all my armies. A wash of oils or enamels is the key to good and fast army painting in my book. It looks great and is fast and I find the reductive method to be very fun to do. I think they are a great tool for all painting.
Really like the video. Couple of questions, do you need to use a varnish on the model first? (to stop the thinner removing paint) Does it work over contrast paints? Does it make a colour "darker" (for lack of a better word)? I.e. Does it turn a bright colour into a darker one? (probably depends on how much you remove with the thinner?)
Yeah it does work over contrast paints, but it CAN rub them off on the edges (paint/force depending) but this can be solved with a varnish before hand but it depends what sort of finish you want to go with. Advice would be to test it out on the scheme and see if you think it will need it! Yeah it does really dull down bright colours but like you said it depends how much you take off, so its all about the process and finding what you like :D
Do y’all have a video over the different ways of painting and explaining the best way to paint certain models? I’m very new still and when someone talks about contrast paints, dry brushing, enamels, oils and other things I get really confused still. This was really super helpful nonetheless, I’m going to try this method on some scarabs!
No we don’t but that could be an interesting idea for a future one! We usually just decide based on the army type, like if an army is a horde army (tyranids, orks etc) then contrast paint and dry brushes are your best friend. Whereas something like custodes that is a such a few model count lends itself to more “work”
@@the_kieran_show yeah I play Necrons and I just learned how to dry brush and started doing some bigger glow effects, I am definitely looking for a more “intensive” art project and y’all explained this very well!
I recommend MIG streaking grime as opposed to AK. AK used to be great until they changed the tint a while back. MIG still has the greenish tint as opposed to the brown one that you get with AK. EDIT: I said this before you addressed the comparison. Totally agree that they each have their place with the color of the paintjob to which you'll be applying it.
Suggest experimenting! You could go with either “dark streaking grime” to just bring out the shadows, or something with more brown in to make them looked more tarnished, depends what you want the final result to be!
I've never used Streaking Grime before. It's just not part of my "style" when it comes to most of my armies. But after seeing this video, I might use it for the armies I have(or don't have yet) that I think would fit best.
@the_kieran_show Fair enough. If I paint an army that I think could use it, I'll try it out. Which, for me, is maybe two armies? Three if we're getting technical. Skaven, I think, could use it well since their weapon teams and war machines would accumulate a fair amount of "grime". Iron Warriors, not an army I own, at least not yet, but I've considered it more than once, they'd make good use of it since the value function over form. And finally, I could *maybe* put it on my GSC vehicles, but maybe that is cheating since it's just one type of unit in an already fairly small range.
I use it on some of my models. Skaven, for example. Slather it on everything that isn’t skin (I don’t like the effect on flesh). Leave it for 20 minutes, then come back and remove it. Then, go back and bring up the highest highlights, metal dings and scratches, etc. Just streaking grime makes the model too dark imo. Everything becomes too dull, which detracts from the mini imo. Overall, it’s great to bring a mini together with one coherent wash. It also is great at hiding any minor mistakes or getting into recesses that you just couldn’t get into. Also, yes, it’s amazing for a grim dark effect.
Excellent review. But you're missing a couple of key concepts. Streaking grime will lower the final value with around 15%. Hence, paint everything a tone lighter than you normally would and you will be able to keep brighter highlights. 👍
It depends what tone you want. Left Kieran always goes with a normal tone to lean into the grimdark (khorne red and then grime for example) whereas right Kieran will go with a brighter tone first to keep some faux highlights when it comes off :)
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Totally.... we realised this in editing...was quite scary
@@the_kieran_show soulmates :p
Another similar type of product that came out semi-recently, is Monument Hobbies's Newsh. It's an acrylic weathering medium you combine with acrylic paints to achieve a similar result. An interesting tidbit about streaking grime. As I understand it, at some point in the past, AK changed the formula for it. There's a video off the Grimdark Compendium where he shows off the difference between the two. It's the primary reason why he started the Villiany Inks line off of his website!
Oh how interesting! We've seen Newsh batting around socials actually, we'll have to give it a go 😁
@@the_kieran_show Please do,.. I just got a bottle because I had two bottles of Streaking grime (the dark one) explode in my drawer and that was def an issue! I do like with the medium you can add whatever colour you like!!!
As someone who'd prefer not to give AK my money, I'm glad to hear good things about Newsh; I'm waiting for my local store to get it in stock. I've been watching Grimdark Compendium for awhile now and am looking forward to eventually trying his inks too!
@@Dasein1 I m still not certain what Happened there with AK
I just have a wife that will kick my ass if I spill toxic enamel paint all over our new apartment. I also like having control over what colour the grime is.
Does MIG make anything comparable to the old AK streaking grime?
This was perfect timing because I just ordered my first bottle last week to grimdarkify my World Eaters
It looks great on WE! Have fun!
Should you varnish you models before using streaking grime or ok to proceed without the varnish?
Depends on the colour to be honest. Have found that if it’s on top of contrast paint then it’s more prone to rubbing off when you use the mineral spirits. But most normal colours shouldn’t need it, you can always do a test on a random sprue to make sure!
I'd advise yes, you CAN without it but just be super gentle whilst taking the grime off so you don't take the paint with it 😁
@the_kieran_show Awesome, thanks for the reply guys! 😊
I use Enamel washes for every single project I do, the ability to remove excess after drying whilst not needing the drying time of oils is massive.
Check out Villany Inks (from the creator of the Grimdark Compendium), he's bringing out multiple colours in enamel washes to cover several different saturated finishes
Have seen Villany around for a bit! Will give them a looksie
NO LIKKING THE BRUSH !!
Just for once, this is NOT a sugestion....
🤣🤣🤣 absolutely do not lick the brush
Love a bit of streak and grime, makes things easy! I've got a bottle of Newsh from Monument on the way which im looking forward to trying out. Apparently, it creates a similar effect for acrylics... I guess I'll find out!
Let us know how you get on! We'd love to give it a crack.
@@the_kieran_show will post some photos on the discord when I get it!
I use oils and enamels on all my armies. A wash of oils or enamels is the key to good and fast army painting in my book. It looks great and is fast and I find the reductive method to be very fun to do. I think they are a great tool for all painting.
One of us! One of us!
Cant wait for you to tell us how you guys do OSL and glowies
We've got a couple of reels up available for free on our Patreon!
Really like the video. Couple of questions, do you need to use a varnish on the model first? (to stop the thinner removing paint)
Does it work over contrast paints?
Does it make a colour "darker" (for lack of a better word)? I.e. Does it turn a bright colour into a darker one? (probably depends on how much you remove with the thinner?)
Yeah it does work over contrast paints, but it CAN rub them off on the edges (paint/force depending) but this can be solved with a varnish before hand but it depends what sort of finish you want to go with. Advice would be to test it out on the scheme and see if you think it will need it!
Yeah it does really dull down bright colours but like you said it depends how much you take off, so its all about the process and finding what you like :D
Do y’all have a video over the different ways of painting and explaining the best way to paint certain models? I’m very new still and when someone talks about contrast paints, dry brushing, enamels, oils and other things I get really confused still. This was really super helpful nonetheless, I’m going to try this method on some scarabs!
No we don’t but that could be an interesting idea for a future one! We usually just decide based on the army type, like if an army is a horde army (tyranids, orks etc) then contrast paint and dry brushes are your best friend. Whereas something like custodes that is a such a few model count lends itself to more “work”
@@the_kieran_show yeah I play Necrons and I just learned how to dry brush and started doing some bigger glow effects, I am definitely looking for a more “intensive” art project and y’all explained this very well!
cool video and guide you boys made. How do you protect yourself against the fumes from White Spirit?
Just well ventilate the room, open the doors and the window and if it’s a longer session use a fan!
I recommend MIG streaking grime as opposed to AK. AK used to be great until they changed the tint a while back. MIG still has the greenish tint as opposed to the brown one that you get with AK.
EDIT: I said this before you addressed the comparison. Totally agree that they each have their place with the color of the paintjob to which you'll be applying it.
The ammo mig tone is very good over yellow too!
did you forgot the supply list in the description ?
Not at all..... (totally did and its there now :D )
Doing 3500 points of Night Lords. What do you recommend over Kantor/alatioc blue?
Suggest experimenting! You could go with either “dark streaking grime” to just bring out the shadows, or something with more brown in to make them looked more tarnished, depends what you want the final result to be!
I've never used Streaking Grime before. It's just not part of my "style" when it comes to most of my armies. But after seeing this video, I might use it for the armies I have(or don't have yet) that I think would fit best.
It's such a great fit for a quick result! Plus it's. A really great alternative product for your arsenal 😁
@the_kieran_show Fair enough. If I paint an army that I think could use it, I'll try it out. Which, for me, is maybe two armies? Three if we're getting technical. Skaven, I think, could use it well since their weapon teams and war machines would accumulate a fair amount of "grime". Iron Warriors, not an army I own, at least not yet, but I've considered it more than once, they'd make good use of it since the value function over form. And finally, I could *maybe* put it on my GSC vehicles, but maybe that is cheating since it's just one type of unit in an already fairly small range.
As awesome as ever, thank you ☺️
Thank you for watching! 😁😁
Excellent as alway but the new location is causing really bad sound issues
Thanks, but its our normal location :/
I use it on some of my models. Skaven, for example.
Slather it on everything that isn’t skin (I don’t like the effect on flesh). Leave it for 20 minutes, then come back and remove it. Then, go back and bring up the highest highlights, metal dings and scratches, etc.
Just streaking grime makes the model too dark imo. Everything becomes too dull, which detracts from the mini imo.
Overall, it’s great to bring a mini together with one coherent wash. It also is great at hiding any minor mistakes or getting into recesses that you just couldn’t get into. Also, yes, it’s amazing for a grim dark effect.
It’s particularly good on metals. Agree about highlights after, all depends how grimdark you want to go! 😁
I use steak grim for my badmoon vehicles . It’s awesome
Yeah it’s great for orks!
Why didnt i learn this like 10 years ago . Well this is cool
Give it a go!
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painting up 50 plague marines right now and almost finished the trim so i can drown them in grime
It makes death guard come alive!
Excellent review.
But you're missing a couple of key concepts. Streaking grime will lower the final value with around 15%. Hence, paint everything a tone lighter than you normally would and you will be able to keep brighter highlights. 👍
It depends what tone you want. Left Kieran always goes with a normal tone to lean into the grimdark (khorne red and then grime for example) whereas right Kieran will go with a brighter tone first to keep some faux highlights when it comes off :)
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@@the_kieran_show Greetings from Hungary. Have a great day.