All The Ways To Slow Down On A Motorcycle
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Yes i know. I watched a lot of your videos, but in low speed maneuvers you need to mainly use the clutch and a little bit of gas. What do you do if you dont have clutch. Like on those Hondas dct?
Vukasin Milutinovic one less thing to worry about...just throttle and rear brake. I have a video of me riding an electric bike and I also ridden new Gold Wings with no clutch.
I just recently bought a motorcycle and have never actually road one, it's a Yamaha V Star 1100 . I'm really nervous about not only switching gears but slowing down and switching gears. I've heard different things about slowing down and how long you can hold the clutch.
Just a note for some newer riders, something I learned the hard way.
Always lightly tap or hold the rear brake while engine braking. Just enough to engage the brake light. Car drivers think like cars, and if they don't see a brake light, they won't slow down. It might be too late before they realize you dropped significant speed. So a tappy tap and then hold the brake pedal down lightly while engine braking could save your life!
In your drive or garage, you can test out and tap the pedal and see how much pressure it takes to engage the light (on most bikes, it's very little. Typically the light comes on long before any actual braking force is applied.) and on a back street, just feel how lightly you can press to not really brake.
That is your sweet spot. Get used to it. It's your new signal/middle finger.
When someone is riding your ass, give em a few tappy taps. Enough to flash your brake light at them and let them know they're too damn close.
I hope this helps.
I had a fee close calls where I was focused on riding and I was just engine braking and realized people kept getting uncomfortably close to me and started cursing drivers "Everyone is out to kill me! Assholes!" I said... until I realized it was *my fault* and I was just slowing down without any warning or notice.
Ride safe and remember that everyone isn't out to kill you. Most drivers are just fine and sometimes it's you. Just watch out for the few that are the exception... the texters and smokers and fast food eaters. The people who care not, and pay no mind. The deadly ones.
Don't have to 'always' do that...all depends if there's someone behind you, how close, the environment, etc. Tailgaters is something different, I have a video about that if that's what you were talking about.
@@MotoJitsu Yes, it's not always strictly necessary, I just prefer to build the muscle memory. What I meant was; if you're going to use engine braking as your primary way of slowing to a corner or stop light, you should signal the change in speed. Small speed adjustments or whatever don't really warrant it, but if your slowing down rapidly having your brake light on couldn't hurt.
A lot of drivers lately are really distracted or pay more attention to the car/bike in front of them, than they do the environment. They're more likely to notice the person ahead braking, before they realize the light is red or a stop is approaching.
I just assume it's good practice to get used to, since I typically use engine braking for a lot of my deceleration when I ride. Sometimes I rarely touch the brakes when I'm just cruising around for fun. I pretty much use them as backup and keep them handy for emergencies. (Honestly, I don't know if that's a good or bad thing... but it's just something I've gotten used to. I use light braking for cornering and maneuvering, but engine braking for my major deceleration.)
I'm still learning, so hopefully this will all be second nature to me one day.
@@MotoJitsu Better to build a habit, retard
Thank you, that's quite helpful
Finally super clear what is trail braking, I was always unsure. And makes perfect sense with pressure braking vs trail braking. Thanks again for the perfect explanation of it all!
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I want to thank so much Moto! If I wouldn’t have seen this today, before I went riding. I would be dead! I was practicing the things you spoke about in this video, and I live in the Midwest. So, tractors are out preparing the fields. Came around a sharp right-hand blind corner, with a field entrance mid corner, no outs. Three cars in the oncoming lane. I got stopped safely and felt prepared, confident, and was totally in touch with my bike. I appreciate you and your channel brother, you saved my life and I am grateful, thank you!!!
Nice!!! :)
For another technique, I'd add holding in the clutch so you coast. This lets you roll off the throttle while slowing over a long distance.
I do this all the time in addition to my bad habit of stalling. I'm not sure if its correct but it helps.
Hello. I want to thank you so much for your videos. I 'm a stupid kid who got an S1000R for his first bike. After watching your videos and practicing on my own again and again, I have become more and more confident with riding my bike. Thank you so much Eddie. I will keep practicing and learning.
You're welcome! :)
You're not stupid if you're trying to learn the proper technique. 👍Just keep those wheels on the floor and you'll be fine. PS. Taking a safety local l will teach you some crucial breaking and clutch methods; as well as give you a discount on your ins.
I finally understand!!!! I've been watching lots of videos on the subject and do not ask me why, the concept of trail braking is clearer now. Thank you. Continue the good work!
Thanks!
Thanks Greg. Another great video explaining in detail the options you have for just a few critical seconds on the road.
thanks!! :)
Knee dragged yesterday both left and right with pretty much perfect body posture. Thanks for all your educational videos I couldnt do it without them!
nice!
Nice Greg. Pressure Braking... I like it. At ChampSchool, we categorize any braking after the turn is initiated as trail braking but this clarifies holding brake pressure (not trailing-off) in the corner really well. Good job. My invented term is "Master-Braker" (Pun intended) because learning how to master the brakes may be the most important skill for any motorcycle rider. The ability to slow down and/or stop anywhere/ anytime could be the skill to save more lives than just about any other.
We advocate to avoid "Regular Braking" in any corner that requires you to slow down because the moment you let go of the brakes, you reduce frontward bias (the springs in the front cause the bike to kinda pop-up) which takes away the geometry the bike needs to turn better but also takes weight off the front which reduces contact patch. In essence, you are taking rubber off the road and then asking the bike to lean over when you release the brakes before you turn. That is the cause of the majority of low sides and front-end tucks.
Good stuff man.
PS, We had a few Motojitsu members out to class this week in SoCal and they did great so thank you!
Thanks! Yes Jeremy and David had a blast!!!! :)
Great video! Thanks for sharing. It's not really a braking technique but one of the "other" contributing factors of being able to slow down (or not) is road camber. There are a few curves that I know I can go into them a bit faster because the road banks and will naturally slow me down. And a few that are the opposite that are super tricky especially in the wet!
Thanks
You missed Flintstone breaking but otherwise good video. 👍
Hahahha
THIS was GOLD. Thanks Fast Eddie, made everything even more crystal clear.
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Thank you so much for all your videos. I am pretty sure there are a lot of beginner rides, like me, that appreciate and value your content.
Your drawings are amazing!!
You can make a career out of it.
Most importantly, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE SR!!!
You're welcome! Thank you so much :)
second that
This is life saving!!! thanks.
You’re welcome :)
Another great vid FE. Keep’m coming.🏍🏍
Thanks
Again !!!!! Great video !!! Great advices !!!
thanks!
thank you!!! great advices
You're welcome Nev :)
Thanks for making this video. I now fully understand trail braking 🤙
I have others on trail braking too
This video was great man, thanks. Can’t wait to practice tomorrow.
Thanks!
Thank you for explaining not only about braking overall, but about the throttle! You made understanding this easier for me! thank you!
you're welcome!
If if your motorbike despidos reduce it cannot go would a speed you want what will you do is it from the is it from the fuel pump or what
More power to you! Thank you.
you're welcome!
When coming up to a stop I usually almost exclusively use engine braking and downshifting through all the gears for most of the stopping power, with the brakes providing the final stopping power.
However, I keep slight pressure on the brakes to ensure the light is on for a car behind me to be aware that I am braking.
When at the stop I keep my left foot on the ground and right foot on the rear brake initially if no cars are behind me.
When I see a car coming up behind me I tap the rear brake a few times to flash the light.
Once the car is safely stopped behind me, I’ll put both feet on the ground.
But always keep the bike in gear and hand on the throttle, never got into the habit of putting
the bike in neutral at stop.
We all have our own ways :)
Good tip there with tapping the brake to warn drivers.
Yep, exactly right. Greg actually introduced this method for me (in his vid.
Andrea Chinaglia
I agree.
I definitely use my front brakes a lot, and more than the rear.
Especially when riding “spirited.”
Though gear selection is important when riding hard in twisty stuff.
Was mainly just referring to when riding up to a stop sign/light.
Like to downshift through the gears up to the stop and allow the engine to slow me down, but have the front brake covered and then use it when needed or at the end to come to a complete stop.
Bonus is the sweet sound of the rev match through each gear, and some pops and crackles.
Shannon Crawford Since you engine brake hard and a lot...isn't there going to be a lot of "wear and tear" on the engine this way? (Sorry for such a noob question - 2020 will be my first season!)
Thanks for the video!
Awesome video on braking, especially diff between trail and pressure braking.
Thanks!
About to get my first bike this week. I’m hoping to make the most out of social distancing with empty roads and parking lots! Super nervous as I have never had prior bike experience other than my M2 MSF course. A lot to learn but I’m excited for the journey!
I highly recommend my 2nd book, The Road To Mastery because it lays out the process of what to do right now in your footsteps...also I have an entire playlist on new rider tips :)
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MotoJitsu just finished reading it! Do your playlist of tips correspond to the lessons in your book Motojitsu master riding program?
Thanks! I have a playlist all about MotoJitsu including me doing the demonstrations of each belt
Thanks for explaining this one .
Thanks man. Very helpful.
You’re welcome!
Great video 👍 thanks mate
welcome!!
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Great videos, very educational. You are going to save a lot of lives whit this kind of videos.
Can you do a video on low speed maneuvering on automatic motorcycle? Thanks a lot.
Thanks, I have an entire playlist on low speed riding :)
Great information
Thank you very much
Glad it was helpful!
Fantastic and clear
thanks
You have just answered my queries on braking on bends or roundabouts here in uk .have found slightly feathering back brake makes me feel in control to keep control and hold my line better eg not running wide been practicing on quiet roundabouts taken on your training tip of practice practice practice
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Yes
@@MotoJitsu Hi Fast Eddie, Does that mean that braking with the rear only is proper trail braking too?
Practicing this later thanks 😊
:)
I appreciate the video man, it is so much to remember
No need to remember..just keep re-watching and practicing until you know it all yourself through your experience.
@@MotoJitsu Thank you for the quick response man, I want to learn so bad it hurts. Bikes appears to be so much fun
Sure are :)
Cool explanation!
What about sitting up higher when braking to increase your air resistance? The effect increases dramatically with speed. I also like that I get a slightly better view of things as I'm slowing down. Doubly useful when slowing for a blind crest in front of you!
Unless you're going really fast and are tucked in the first place..no need.
Thanks a lot for the explanation. I remember one of your videos when you explained about pushing the handle bar in the same direction you want to go and that tip changed my riding experience every time I'm taking a curve or even a corner.
since you are using BMW bike with quick shifter, how you slow down using the quick shifter for roundabout or traffic signal? sometimes when I'm braking I have to use the clutch to shift down. my ride is R1250 GS.
I don’t have the BMW anymore nor does it matter. You only use it if shifting of course
Thanks for sharing👍👍👍
No problem 👍
Awesome!
ho, after a lot of practice i learned the "blipping the throttle" or "rev matching" thing, started learning it from "twist of the wrist 2" video, and after many videos trying to understand it and slowly trying it bit by bit (cause it was a pain to hear the engine when i was getting it wrong), brakes + clutch + bleeping throttle +shifting, all together on a milliseconds timing difference on every down-up shift (sometimes skipping clutch part on slow speed shifts), after a year i was doing it everywhere on every stop or slow down before corner, it was the third most awesome feeling on the bike (leaning on a corner came first and feeling of freedom on solitary highway second :p) , i still can brake using all of the techniques you mention above, but none comes close to the feeling of braking while rev matching, and after 3 years of mainly using that technique on the same bike now it just comes automatic to me no matter the speed, i kinda know how much throttle on which gear-speed i have to twist, is not numbers, is a feeling of it, guess i'm not a master of all arts like you encourage us to be :p but i feel like theres something missing on my ride if i start just engine breaking releasing the clutch or just using the brakes, so i might be wrong but, after you learn how to slow the bike properly, i would encourage to learn how to use this technique, is not a must or a need, but it will make your ride way more fun and awesome ;)
There is no wrong...learn and practice everything but that doesn't mean you do everything every time.
@@MotoJitsu gotcha :)
Hi MotoJitsu great content as always , i was wondering if you can do a video on riding in sand or what to do when you suddenly hit a soft sand patch . I live close to the beach and the wind blew so strong on day the sand came over and on my way home hit a long sand patch didn't hit the breaks but lost control of the bike and went down . 😬 Any advice on to avoid in future ?
Thanks, I have a video on that...you bring the bike upright as much as possible before hitting it...and you take dirt bike courses or play around on a dirt bike in order to get comfortable sliding around.
Damn, honestly man. Getting my bike soon and I was confused as FUCK on how to slowdown. Thanks so much man!
You're welcome
Bro I wish you could be there when I get on my first motorcycle. Really like your videos.
:)
Last time I thought about it, how break good on my bike and change the down shift gear ( can you talk about it more) . You have my thoumb 👍
I don't know what you mean
When you do any braking - engine braking or front/rear brake - do you have to pull in the clutch at all? Or can the clutch be engaged while slowing down or coming to a stop?
Only pull in the clutch when shifting
Only pull the clutch in when breaking in 1st gear
When you say roll off the throttle and brake. Do you mean completely letting go of the throttle and braking or is the throttle still turned a bit giving RPMs while applying the brakes?
I’m a new rider, and my concern is not so much whether to tail brake or pressure brake: I almost always maintain a steady speed because I was already slow enough when entering the corner. But this implies that in a blind corner, a surprise may make me snap the brake, instead of gently increasing it. I still prefer that risk over coming in faster, tough. Comments?
Keep the brake light on until you see the exit
Greg, could you do one on taking a pillion? From time to time I would let my friends hitch a ride with me and I wouldn’t want to make any mistakes that could potentially endanger their lives (and mine too of course), given the fact that I’m on a decently small bike (150cc). It’s alright if you think it’s not worth the time & effort to shoot a video on it, I’ll still appreciate any form of advice. :3
I have a video about passengers
When I am slowing down and using the break do I have to press the clutch or I can just the break
perfect
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I'm a new rider and have been wanting to learn how to break safely. If say I meet the traffic, is it enough to press the clutch and downshift? Then later press the rear brake to stop totally? And maybe use the hand brake only when I need to.
Thank you so much for the video!
Depends on how quick you need to stop
Hi fast eddie happy Easter! When u talk about pressure braking holding apprx 1%, when doing this is the throttle completely closed or are you engine braking a little. Or do you have throttle open and 1% braking at the same time? Thanks much
All depends on what the corner is and how fast I'm going...I may give it a tiny bit of gas (maintenance throttle) while keeping a slight pressure until I see the exit.
MotoJitsu you are the man! Thx much!!
@@franklucas4896 you're welcome :)
Great video. Quick question is it safe to say on a Bike that is top heavy that weighs over 900 lbs, and trying to do tight u-turn. Is practice the only way to get rid of the fear of dropping the bike. If common sense says yes to the question how long to get the confidence to overcome that fear
thanks! Share it :)
Hi I just wanna ask if im doing it wrong. Im basically self taught in driving a motorcycle. So whenever i need to slowdown i always squeeze (not sure what term to use) the clutch and simultaneously releasing the throttle then squeeze/step on the brakes while still holding the clutch.
You don’t need to touch the clutch unless you’re shifting
Came here because of MCRider. Glad he sent us over.
He’s a good guy :)
Hi I been watching your site for a couple of months and I have really been practicing over the summer your techniques. I have put over 9 thousand miles just this past season alone and I rode with different groups and different bikes to get a feel and different experience. I ride the freeway and city some back road but mostly freeway and I think I’m ready to get one of your books.. Can you please send me a link and best book to start with. Thanks in advance
Thanks!! :) All my books are here www.motojitsu.com/shop
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@@MotoJitsu just ordered a hard copy of your first one.. kinda still like reading the actual book lol but no I will have to check it out.. and again thanks for reaching out. My goal is to master as many skills as possible next season..
Thanks!
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Great video btw 🙏
thanks
So I been practicing my rev matching I’m just asking for the more experienced riders so when I drop from like 4 th to 3rd it starts breaking harder em I doing something right or wrong because some times it breaks a bit hard to wete I lunge foward a bit
I’ve been practicing the same as well. I find mine is from 2nd down to 1st I’m guessing because it’s a bigger gear and I need to give it more rpms to match correctly. Maybe try giving it just a little more beans on the blip
@@LukeJohnson-kn8vp honestly I’ve gotten way better bro I started hitting the breaks when it comes to second to first when I rev match and I’ve shifted so much smoother and it sounds way better
Is holding the clutch, then holding the front and rear breaks as you down shift all the way till you stop a bad way?
No
When you hold 1% brake do you usually keep maintenance throttle or do you continue to slow with engine braking mid turn and why?
I keep the brake light on til I see the exit.
For engine braking? Does that automatically turn on the back breaks for bike ?
It doesn't turn on the brakes at all. MotoJitsu.com for my new app, books, merch, etc.
Have u done videos on all the ways to slow down?
Slightly off topic but I don't properly get counter steering when cornering. I have limited experience at riding a motorcycle but I must have been doing it without being aware of it
You always do it, whether you're aware or not.
what about a combo for a corner with trailbraiking and a knee on the ground :P
Those two have nothing to do with each other
So many motorcycle terms seem more complicated than they are till you explain it lol. “Engine braking” was literally just putting your foot off the gas to let the car roll slower (motorcycle in this case obviously).
Yup
Hey. So for trail braeking and pressure breaking I can use the front or the rear or both breaks. Did I understand this correct?
You can...and learn and know how to do everything. Doesn't mean you'll do it every ride or corner...all depends.
@@MotoJitsu so i can use the front or the rear brake.
Or both
@@MotoJitsu thank you. Nice day for you. Cherrs
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Is trail braking is okay with front brake only around the corner?
Yup
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Engine braking feels like it’s beating up the bike idk why maybe I’m not smooth rolling off the throttle yet
I watched a lot of the video dropping or crawling the bike after entering the bend, what is the problem with that?
no idea
I mostly do braking and maybe engine braking. Wait til the needle gets where the next down gear is then tap the clutch. The sound when i do it on my rebel is beautiful
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+2 more ways to brake - Gravity when going up hill, and Wind when riding into strong winds 🙃
So I shouldn’t be pulling clutch while braking?
only if you're shifting, otherwise no
@@MotoJitsucan I ask why? If you don’t doesn’t the engine start to stutter because your not going the speed that the gear is supposed to be
Is it ok if i downshift while cornering?
I don’t recommend it
Also you said not to exceed 100%. So if I have 70% lean and 30% brake, what if I have 70% lean and am downshifting to slow down? Does that count
slowing down is slowing down
Can you do a video on shiting gears and how to do it quickly?
I have videos on both of those
@@MotoJitsu thanks for the reply will definitely look them up. I always look forward to your videos keep the awesome content coming!
:) thanks
Assuming street riding. Wouldn’t trail braking as initially explained mean you haven’t slowed enough for the corner? If your holding the brake in the corner whilst leaning until you're happy... you’ve miss judged the corner and your speed. I find a big difference between North American systems and UK systems of control. Example, we tend to balance the bike in a corner with just off neutral throttle. Engine braking here would be downshifting using engine compression. Simply rolling off would be classed as acceleration sence. Interesting.
No.
@@MotoJitsu what's normally advocated over here is to position, slow to an appropiate speed before the corner. Select gear for speed, turn and accelerate. It would be suggested under the norm over here that if you're needing to brake (as in apply brakes) mid corner, you got the speed wrong in the braking phase pre corner.
Always good to see alternative systems and understand the merits of each don't you think.
There is no 1 way for every corner...trail braking can be used at any corner, any pace. All depends on many variables.
Is it true ?engine braking too much ur motorcycle chain start getting kinda loose
engine braking is simply rolling off the gas....chain getting loose is a natural thing that happens over time due to normal wear and tear on the bike.
Basically he's telling us to go out and ride.
After buying a harley i've realized can only use my rear brake, but maybe after this video this will change
(because this is the internet... it's a joke!)
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Made the biggest mistake as a new rider front break while taking a turn, smacked the floor within seconds
The mistake wasn't front brake while taking a turn, you can easily do that...the problem was the way you did it. Since you smacked the floor you didn't have the correct technique.
Fast Eddie: maybe there's another way to slow down I'm not aware of.
Me: you're feet 😈mwah ha ha
(Kidding)
Flintstones!
How to slow down to a stop.. when to downshift?
before you stop be in 1st
downshift when you want to slow down gear-spead you want
why dont you put ads in the videos?
I do
Or you could just stand straight up on the road whilst riding to slow down from the friction of your shoes on the road
like the Flintstones?
@@MotoJitsu haha exactly
But thanks for this video man, another great explanation. For some reason after hearing you and many others explain trail braking, I finally understand it from the explanation in this video
awesome!
@@svensharpsword9837 Same! I never knew it involved "trailing off" as you lean.
You say "front/rear it doesn't matter"? Aren't you supposed to brake 70/30 (rear/front), especially on bikes without ABS?
no...that's the general power of the brakes...(bike dependent) but that doesn't mean you have to do that every time. Sometimes I only use the rear when slowing down for a stop or corner...many variables, which I mention. And abs has nothing to do with anything I say in this video...or any video. Technique over technology always.
@@MotoJitsu Oh, i see.. Thanks!
Np
Bro, who does your drawings?? Lol
you think someone else does? lol I do all of them
You should not use your front brake by its self on a turn
Sure you can...just like you can only use the rear brake if you want...all depends on what you're doing, the pace, etc.
And then there's tree braking but I would never recommend it.