This video convinced me to start practicing again, i tried for a few weeks but felt like i was pulling up to the lights on a horse instead of my motorcycle.
Agreed, the camera angle from the front makes it really clear. Great video, thanks Chad! I feel this is a gap in my riding skills and this video was a great explainer.
Been waiting for this video. Great tip using your legs to keeping your arms relaxed. Helps avoid the herky jerky motion when simultaneously braking and downshifting. 👍👍
Man I've had such a bad time with this. The pulse at the brakes is too much. I'd given up and started letting the clutch lever out slowly instead and letting the slipper clutch take up the load but it gets a bit dodgy when you're shifting down 2 or more gears. You've convinced me to practice again.
Just keep at it! It took me a while to get past the violent lurchiness, and I think it's a very useful skill once it is finally acquired. Hope all is well with you Anupam! 🙂✌️
Correct, I do not use the clutch on the track. It should not make a meaningful difference in transmission wear if timed and executed properly. I've put tens of thousands of miles on bikes using this technique between the street and the track and have never experienced a failure.
@@GiacintoMarcellino I learned this technique to work around not having a slipper clutch. It is pretty effective. When it came time to change my plates after a season of racing, I ended up fitting a Yoyodyne slipper. Although I continue to rev match without the clutch, it helps the bike carry more speed by reducing engine braking and also sorts things out if I don't rev match quite right on a downshift. No rear wheel lock or chatter.
Hey Kenjin! Leaving the throttle open while re-engaging the clutch between downshifts will cause the bike to lurch forward against the brakes, resulting in additional slowing/stopping time/distance and making the bike difficult to control. The key here is to open and close the throttle quickly enough that the bike does not lurch against the brakes.
Keeping the throttle open while braking is not good, but the quick blip is necessary for rev matching and when done correctly, is faster and smoother than downshifting without rev matching if the bikes does not have a slipper clutch.
@@tejaswishenoy3786 the rear brake at best is only 20% of your stopping power on most motorcycles. If you're riding in a sporting manner or on a racetrack, the front brake is essential, accounting for 80-100% of your stopping power, depending on how comfortable you are using it aggressively.
Does anyone else’s throttle feel too stiff when doing this? I can shift like this perfectly fine without the front brake but when doing it like this I don’t even have enough grip on my throttle to actually rev it properly. It’ll honestly end up being a small rev and my hand will just kinda slip without the throttle coming with it 😂 My hands aren’t huge but they’re not necessarily small either, I’m still getting the same amount of my hand on the throttle as anyone else does when doing this.
This video convinced me to start practicing again, i tried for a few weeks but felt like i was pulling up to the lights on a horse instead of my motorcycle.
I felt the same way at first. It just takes time and consistent practice!
I’m dying a horse lmfao I feel that tho
Found this very helpful! Time to practice 👍
I've looked around all yt to find advice for this but couldn't find any so thanks, taking pressure off the handlebars definetely helped a lot in this
Glad you found it useful! Thanks for watching, and for letting me know it helped 🙂✌️
Helpful information matey 😊👍 Cheers from Bundaberg Australia 🇦🇺🍹🕺🏍
@@stevewilson8752 🍻
excellent info, and perfect display at 8:08! exactly what i was looking for. The final answer to my questions
Agreed, the camera angle from the front makes it really clear. Great video, thanks Chad! I feel this is a gap in my riding skills and this video was a great explainer.
Been waiting for this video. Great tip using your legs to keeping your arms relaxed. Helps avoid the herky jerky motion when simultaneously braking and downshifting. 👍👍
Exactly! Appreciate your patience on this as well. 🙂
Thanks for your help! Very good teaching voice and tone and explained in an easy and logical way.
Appreciate the compliments, John! Glad you found it helpful. 🙂
Man I've had such a bad time with this. The pulse at the brakes is too much. I'd given up and started letting the clutch lever out slowly instead and letting the slipper clutch take up the load but it gets a bit dodgy when you're shifting down 2 or more gears. You've convinced me to practice again.
Just keep at it! It took me a while to get past the violent lurchiness, and I think it's a very useful skill once it is finally acquired. Hope all is well with you Anupam! 🙂✌️
@@hiimchad life is fabulous, man. Can't complain. First track day on Apr 2nd. Equal parts nervous and excited. That too, on the big GP circuit!
@@greyanaroth that’s exciting! I’m jealous, still haven’t ridden a current GP circuit, have fun out there!
6:50 - you could shave some weight by uninstalling the clutch lever seeing as it doesn't seem all too necessary on the bike :D
That .05hp would probably throw me off the back if I tried to pop a wheelie! 😂
Nice! Have to practice this on my sons R3 on the street when it warms up :)
Great idea! 🙂
get your own bike old man! 😂
4:55 yeaaa about thattt, should have watched this before trying on my own, lets just say i got some road rash 😅
Great content as always Chad.
I hope you are doing well.
See you next time.
Thanks Johnny! Hope you are doing well too! ✌️
Any videos in the circuitous roads of the Sierra front country? The Ag roads are straight.
No, but I have made quite a few videos at different racetracks!
Great Content♥️
Thank you! 🙂
So on the truck with you daytona you won't use the clutch to downshift?Won't that cause crazy amount of wear?
Correct, I do not use the clutch on the track. It should not make a meaningful difference in transmission wear if timed and executed properly. I've put tens of thousands of miles on bikes using this technique between the street and the track and have never experienced a failure.
@@hiimchad thanks for the answer, I will give it try! I also have a 675, with no slipper clutch and I'm finding braking and downshifting challenging
@@GiacintoMarcellino I learned this technique to work around not having a slipper clutch. It is pretty effective. When it came time to change my plates after a season of racing, I ended up fitting a Yoyodyne slipper. Although I continue to rev match without the clutch, it helps the bike carry more speed by reducing engine braking and also sorts things out if I don't rev match quite right on a downshift. No rear wheel lock or chatter.
can you do a rev match/downshift first before a trail brake?.
You sure can, but you'll end up slowing down earlier for the corner, losing speed, and adding time to your lap as a result!
Can someone explain to me why you wouldn’t just keep the throttle open while downshifting? Wouldn’t that jump your rpm’s and essentially rev match?
Hey Kenjin! Leaving the throttle open while re-engaging the clutch between downshifts will cause the bike to lurch forward against the brakes, resulting in additional slowing/stopping time/distance and making the bike difficult to control. The key here is to open and close the throttle quickly enough that the bike does not lurch against the brakes.
Is it okay to apply front brake while revving
No. But he is not revving, he is blipping
Keeping the throttle open while braking is not good, but the quick blip is necessary for rev matching and when done correctly, is faster and smoother than downshifting without rev matching if the bikes does not have a slipper clutch.
Can't i just use the rear foot brake while rev matching
@@tejaswishenoy3786 the rear brake at best is only 20% of your stopping power on most motorcycles. If you're riding in a sporting manner or on a racetrack, the front brake is essential, accounting for 80-100% of your stopping power, depending on how comfortable you are using it aggressively.
Does anyone else’s throttle feel too stiff when doing this?
I can shift like this perfectly fine without the front brake but when doing it like this I don’t even have enough grip on my throttle to actually rev it properly.
It’ll honestly end up being a small rev and my hand will just kinda slip without the throttle coming with it 😂
My hands aren’t huge but they’re not necessarily small either, I’m still getting the same amount of my hand on the throttle as anyone else does when doing this.