Thank you for posting this video. It's been really helpful to us all in understaing how these modules work exactly. I managed to remove mine from a 2010 RRS by watching your videos in this series and I have just changed the gears in the gearbox. Similar to yourself, I just changed the gears for the clutch part as the other gears looked good. Waiting on new cables then I'll try to refit and calibrate the handbrake shoes. Thanks again!
This was months ago, I'm fine now, cheers. If it's not rotten like the pos in the video then they're not too bad to get out. I would check the shoes and adjust it first. That usually cures it.
@@pistonbroke haha ok, bit behind up here on Shetland, the one I had was rusted solid all bolts siezed even the screws on the activator were so corroded had to use grips to undo them.
You are a proper Dave Mechanic & ur dog made me laugh! Snoring at 20:52 😆😆😭😭 thanks i have same problem with my range atm hopefully i can just oil cables up as i dont want to be removing brake shoes & cables car stuck in most awkward place !
I recon you are 100% right on slipping gear, great catch, also I’d be getting a Covid-19 test!! No colds or flues this year lad, be careful and safe.. get your vitamin D3 in ASAP 👍😷
Britpart = Sh1tpart Saying that, I've also recently had a problem with a genuine Land Rover oil level sensor loom. The connector wouldn't fit on the oil sensor unless I filed it down. Hope you get well soon Steve.
my focus cmax is doing exact same thing i have ordered same gears hoping they fit how much travel do you alllow on the travel of the brass rod ? square when its working
I explained it in the video, it's not so much where the brass square thing is but how many turns the cable is screwed into the brass bit when the brake is released. If it's in too far, it will tighten when you apply the brake and cause the gears to slip. To set it up manually, screw the cable in 5 turns, this should leave enough cable to get the brake shoes on. Once the shoes are adjusted correctly, apply the brake and it will self adjust.
So if it’s making the first sound you showed its because it’s tightening up too much? Is there any adjustments that can be done before going thru all of that work?
The first sound is because the actuator has come to the end of its travel. As long as the brake will release, putting it in service mode and correctly adjusting the shoes will fix it.
Really good video mate, did it work though with no issues when you put it back in? Going to tackle mine soon, it’s a biatch to get to though even through spare wheel as bloody spare wheel bracket in the way
Yes it worked fine as you can see in the video after this one. Yes the later ones had a big bracket above the spare wheel, makes the job more difficult especially when the bolts are rusted.
Hi again, got it all out, was going to try fixing it in situ but with the spare wheel bar in the way got no chance.. so took it completely out, just got a question about when you put it back together, so you only rotate it 5 full times, put it all back together and that’s it, nothing more to be adjusted except the shoes ? Cheers, your video will help a lot.. just unsure about service mode setting
@@GaryTaylorvw yeah screw it in 5 turns and that will be about the service mode position. All service mode does is wind the cables out to allow you to fit and adjust the shoes, watch the first video in this series and I explain it.
Should adjust itself provided it's not over travelled. Put it in service mode and as long as you can get the cables onto the shoes and the discs back on without it binding then it should be ok to just adjust the shoes.
From what I've found, the gears are not the problem. It's all down to shoe adjustment causing the actuator to over travel. Putting the actuator into service mode and correctly adjusting or replacing the shoes should fix it.
Mine is doing that funny noise. Do you think I may just do what you did, without undoing anything, to see if it puts everything back in working mode : Pressing the brake pedal 3 times then releasing the handbrake?
That's to put it in service mode prior to adjustment. It wont change anything if you put it in service mode and put the brake on. You need to investigate why it's over travelled. Usually down to bad shoe adjustment.
I am writing from Turkey, I like your videos, you are the master of the job, my dream is to buy a 2011 model range rover sport as you have fixed the three-liter engines as you have fixed the crankshaft, the 2008 model is eight-liter vogue, they say the 3.6 diesel engine is more than the sport three liters, they say double turbo failure can give these engines 2.7 and 3.0 engines only have constant crank cutting problem If you were to buy, which model would you buy 3.0 diesel 2011 model sport 2008 model 3.6 diesel octıne vogue case This crank engine renewal process, which you made in Turkey, 4-5 thousand pounds of zero engine 15 thousand pounds of our money 11 times hit by our money, terrible prices come out.If I have it broken, I guess I can't fix it Or would you give up my love of range rover and recommend 2008 model 3.5 engine bmw x6?
If you pull the emergency release while the Range Rover is stuck in park would that cause damage to the teeth of the gears or is the park brake module ok ?
Once you have used the emergency release. Do you have to remove the ep module to re-latch the 2 cables or can it be done via vag tool....great video by the way. By far the best explanation on how epm works.thank you via@pistonbroke
hi, i've been following you with great interest since i bought a range rover sport 2012. a few days ago while driving the car i heard a loud hiss from under the car the handbrake won't come off i tried to pull the release wire of the device but the car remains braked I want to clarify that underneath there is not a thread of rust it looks like a car with no more than 3 years of life I cannot understand why by pulling the release thread I cannot move it even to get to the workshop.
Not sure without seeing it, linings of the shoes may have come off and that's what's binding it. Pul the release again but pull it really hard with something through the loop.
@@pistonbroke hello thanks for the prompt response, I tried to pull with all possible force with a bent hook iron that is in the toolbox of the machine, nothing remains braking
I can't see why you need to have an electric hand brake it's just another thing to go wrong and pay a lot of money to fix, well done to carry on when you feel like crap, get well soon.
I think it's for people with limited mobility, there's no other need for it. There should be a kit availible to convert it to a normal handbrake. Maybe I should invent that!
Shitpart strikes again, I guess you could modify the gears to fit -but going by the quality you could be putting crap gears in and end up stripping it again at a later date 🤔 I would of done exactly what you did
Been watching your channel love the Range Rover videos wish I lived closer to you to help me with my car. I need to adjust the hand brake on my sport. So by putting in service mode it resets the cables and you then adjust the shoes do when you use the parking brake it won’t over wind and damage the EPB module. Thanks for your reply.
Yeah, service mode puts the cables all the way out, then you can adjust the shoes. Once done, pull the switch up to apply the brake then release again. The module will then learn the new adjustment.
Thank you for posting this video. It's been really helpful to us all in understaing how these modules work exactly. I managed to remove mine from a 2010 RRS by watching your videos in this series and I have just changed the gears in the gearbox. Similar to yourself, I just changed the gears for the clutch part as the other gears looked good. Waiting on new cables then I'll try to refit and calibrate the handbrake shoes. Thanks again!
This is a really informative video!! Thankyou for taking the time to make this video!!
Thanks for watching.
Get well soon Steve. Thanks for another great video. Also congrats on 2K subscribers. Cheers
Cheers mate 👍
Thank you excellent video helped me out for my job
Was the same as you a few days ago steve manage to push on sweat it out another great vid keep em coming get well soon bud
I'm fine now mate.
Thank you a lot for this great video! It is helping a lot to service parking brake. of my LR Disco 4. Best Regards. Aro from Eiselfing, Germany
You are welcome!
Haha love the dog snoring, bloody hilarious
What a top mechanic wish I had half your skills could do with you a bit nearer got issues with my discovery 3tdv6 s
Cheers 👍
Thanks for this info got this to do later this week not looking forward to it an 07 disco, love the snoring dog get well mate
This was months ago, I'm fine now, cheers. If it's not rotten like the pos in the video then they're not too bad to get out. I would check the shoes and adjust it first. That usually cures it.
@@pistonbroke haha ok, bit behind up here on Shetland, the one I had was rusted solid all bolts siezed even the screws on the activator were so corroded had to use grips to undo them.
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My 1st ever comment on TH-cam video. but this I couldn't hold myself, fantastic really.
Thanks for sharing. Very informative.
GET WELL SOON !
Thanks
You are a proper Dave Mechanic & ur dog made me laugh! Snoring at 20:52 😆😆😭😭 thanks i have same problem with my range atm hopefully i can just oil cables up as i dont want to be removing brake shoes & cables car stuck in most awkward place !
I recon you are 100% right on slipping gear, great catch, also I’d be getting a Covid-19 test!! No colds or flues this year lad, be careful and safe.. get your vitamin D3 in ASAP 👍😷
I can't see any other explanation for the gear being like that. I had a test, it was negative. Cheers for watching 👍
Thank you 👍
Britpart = Sh1tpart Saying that, I've also recently had a problem with a genuine Land Rover oil level sensor loom. The connector wouldn't fit on the oil sensor unless I filed it down. Hope you get well soon Steve.
Thanks 👍
Thanks ! A lot! very helpful! Where can i get those sprockets?
The dogs hilairious 😂😂
my focus cmax is doing exact same thing i have ordered same gears hoping they fit how much travel do you alllow on the travel of the brass rod ? square when its working
I explained it in the video, it's not so much where the brass square thing is but how many turns the cable is screwed into the brass bit when the brake is released. If it's in too far, it will tighten when you apply the brake and cause the gears to slip. To set it up manually, screw the cable in 5 turns, this should leave enough cable to get the brake shoes on. Once the shoes are adjusted correctly, apply the brake and it will self adjust.
So if it’s making the first sound you showed its because it’s tightening up too much? Is there any adjustments that can be done before going thru all of that work?
The first sound is because the actuator has come to the end of its travel. As long as the brake will release, putting it in service mode and correctly adjusting the shoes will fix it.
@@pistonbroke Thank you mate.
Really good video mate, did it work though with no issues when you put it back in? Going to tackle mine soon, it’s a biatch to get to though even through spare wheel as bloody spare wheel bracket in the way
Yes it worked fine as you can see in the video after this one. Yes the later ones had a big bracket above the spare wheel, makes the job more difficult especially when the bolts are rusted.
Hi again, got it all out, was going to try fixing it in situ but with the spare wheel bar in the way got no chance.. so took it completely out, just got a question about when you put it back together, so you only rotate it 5 full times, put it all back together and that’s it, nothing more to be adjusted except the shoes ? Cheers, your video will help a lot.. just unsure about service mode setting
@@GaryTaylorvw yeah screw it in 5 turns and that will be about the service mode position. All service mode does is wind the cables out to allow you to fit and adjust the shoes, watch the first video in this series and I explain it.
@@pistonbroke Thanks for the advice, all sorted now, your video helped a lot
Britpart... some stuffs good most stuffs sh1t....You don't know what your going to get.. Hope you feel better soon.
Gday Steve great video tho you should’ve been home in land of nod just like teddy boy
Tell me about it! I went home half way through the job.
When you change the shoes , does ot give you more adjustment, and then relatch itself
No. If it doesn't relatch then the actuator has over travelled.
If I replace the shoes and all the hardware will I have to readjust the cable or will it adjust its self
Should adjust itself provided it's not over travelled. Put it in service mode and as long as you can get the cables onto the shoes and the discs back on without it binding then it should be ok to just adjust the shoes.
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My one had all the plastic cogs done was ok for a while then started again shouldni just buy a new on and plug and play?
From what I've found, the gears are not the problem. It's all down to shoe adjustment causing the actuator to over travel. Putting the actuator into service mode and correctly adjusting or replacing the shoes should fix it.
Mine is doing that funny noise. Do you think I may just do what you did, without undoing anything, to see if it puts everything back in working mode : Pressing the brake pedal 3 times then releasing the handbrake?
That's to put it in service mode prior to adjustment. It wont change anything if you put it in service mode and put the brake on. You need to investigate why it's over travelled. Usually down to bad shoe adjustment.
@@pistonbroke Thanks, I will see to it, then. You're doing a fatastic job with showing the bits and bobs on our Lands. Very handy vids!
If I re adjust shoes how do I reset the module to re latch? Do i still have to take the module out and open it up to re thread it back to re latch?
I am writing from Turkey, I like your videos, you are the master of the job, my dream is to buy a 2011 model range rover sport as you have fixed the three-liter engines as you have fixed the crankshaft, the 2008 model is eight-liter vogue, they say the 3.6 diesel engine is more than the sport three liters, they say double turbo failure can give these engines 2.7 and 3.0 engines only have constant crank cutting problem If you were to buy, which model would you buy 3.0 diesel 2011 model sport 2008 model 3.6 diesel octıne vogue case This crank engine renewal process, which you made in Turkey, 4-5 thousand pounds of zero engine 15 thousand pounds of our money 11 times hit by our money, terrible prices come out.If I have it broken, I guess I can't fix it Or would you give up my love of range rover and recommend 2008 model 3.5 engine bmw x6?
If you pull the emergency release while the Range Rover is stuck in park would that cause damage to the teeth of the gears or is the park brake module ok ?
No it wont do it any harm. Pulling the release just seperates the two cables from each other.
Once you have used the emergency release. Do you have to remove the ep module to re-latch the 2 cables or can it be done via vag tool....great video by the way. By far the best explanation on how epm works.thank you via@pistonbroke
No, just pull up the switch, if it wont relatch then it will need to come apart.
hi, i've been following you with great interest since i bought a range rover sport 2012. a few days ago while driving the car i heard a loud hiss from under the car the handbrake won't come off i tried to pull the release wire of the device but the car remains braked I want to clarify that underneath there is not a thread of rust it looks like a car with no more than 3 years of life I cannot understand why by pulling the release thread I cannot move it even to get to the workshop.
Not sure without seeing it, linings of the shoes may have come off and that's what's binding it. Pul the release again but pull it really hard with something through the loop.
@@pistonbroke hello thanks for the prompt response, I tried to pull with all possible force with a bent hook iron that is in the toolbox of the machine, nothing remains braking
Also would i need a bulldog to assist with these works ? 😆
Hope u fill better soon brother my bosses one does this fucking thing
Cheers Mick. Hope all is ok with you.
I can't see why you need to have an electric hand brake it's just another thing to go wrong and pay a lot of money to fix, well done to carry on when you feel like crap, get well soon.
I think it's for people with limited mobility, there's no other need for it. There should be a kit availible to convert it to a normal handbrake. Maybe I should invent that!
Do you have a part number for the cables please boss
Sorry. Not a clue. I'm sure a quick google will tell you.
Shitpart strikes again, I guess you could modify the gears to fit -but going by the quality you could be putting crap gears in and end up stripping it again at a later date 🤔 I would of done exactly what you did
Get well soon. Do you have to put hand brake into service mode when you adjust the hand brake?
It's best to in case the cables are not fully retracted. If you're not sure how to do it then check out the first video on this and I show you how.
Been watching your channel love the Range Rover videos wish I lived closer to you to help me with my car. I need to adjust the hand brake on my sport. So by putting in service mode it resets the cables and you then adjust the shoes do when you use the parking brake it won’t over wind and damage the EPB module. Thanks for your reply.
Yeah, service mode puts the cables all the way out, then you can adjust the shoes. Once done, pull the switch up to apply the brake then release again. The module will then learn the new adjustment.
@@pistonbroke thank you for the reply. hope your better soon.
had to buy two units ,no comment, 1st person didn't know what he was doing 600 pounds, when land rover ££££
I have experience with Britpart components and agree that they are dog poo!
Your cough is from air conditioning from car or building.
I’ve had that make of stuff before and the quality has been sh#t as well made in China rubbish