I am genuinely convinced that at least 80% of the people saying they prefer matte have never actually tried a high end glossy display. No, your 768p glossy laptop from 2013 DOESN'T count as an actual showcase of glossy displays unfortunately, you definitely need to actually experience it to really have any idea what it is like. Obviously yes, some people will still prefer matte, but definitely not the overwhelming majority like it is now.
Exactly! I have a MUCH easier time seeing things on my glossy MacBook screen during the day than my 4k monitor. All matte does is scatter the light across a large portion of the display rendering it absolutely worthless in daylight. Matte just sucks, period.
Can we just get glossy monitors with a DIY matte layer (included) we can apply if we want? Idk how hard this would be to do, but it can't be that bad. Probably no worse than putting a screen protector on your phone.
There are matte screen protectors... for phones, tablets, steam deck etc. results may vary depending on brand and screen type. I don't think they exist for TVs, applying those would be a giant PITA.
@@ZeroB4NG you can buy a cheap TV with a matte finish. But you would probably never buy it because you would think the brightness is gimped or complain why the blacks look so gray. Matte finish is pretty much "I want no blacks" which is why all name brand tvs avoid them
Doing that is what makes the matte diffusion effect which is bad... because remember the glas is already shiny now you're putting another layer on top that is matte then that means the light coming off that glass is going to reflect the difusion and then gets diffused again by the matte layer you applied o ntop of that. it's not a good solution. Matte screens must be matte from factory, not a DIY layer on top of a shiny screen
Glossy for movies and gaming in the dark. The moment there is any light source or even reflected light of the screen itself, matte all the way. I hate reflections. Somehow I'm able to notice even the tiniest reflection of keyboard, glass of water or anything which disrupts my immersion a lot more than tiny blur by matte in normal conditions. Easier on the eyes. But then I'm also not into 4k yet. Because GPUs until recently struggled a lot with high refresh at 4k and it's still expensive as a whole.
I just recently purchased the Alienware 34" QD OLED with the Glossy. Its my first GLOSSY panel. My man cave is conditioned enough to give me minimal reflection onto my Screen. Happy Days. I really like Connor as a You Tuber. Been subbed to his channel for about a year now. Even sometimes if he doesnt have alot of content to work with, he makes it sound interesting with this energized presentation that sounds like the Sham Wow Guy. Remember him? He now has a second YT channel called The Display Guy. Anyway glad to see Gordon and PC World recognize Connor for his efforts.
Dude even when it comes to dealing with reflections, matte is also super bad, some say even worse......it diffuses the light, make the reflection taking even more space on your monitor.
I've noticed that this comment section is very based regarding matte coatings. Apperantly ya'll do not appreciate better contrast, colors popping and high clarity in terms of visual quality from glossy screens 🤔
I'm a designer, I need glossy monitors. I need to see proper color, not a blurry mess. I can only use LG Ultrafine 5K or Apple Cinema/Thunderbolt/Studio/XDR displays
would you still recommend glossy for a guy that play single player games but i have light behind my gaming setup it may cause problem with glossy monitor
I don't think using phones as an argument for why glossy screens aren't an issue on a laptop makes sense because a phone screen is a lot smaller and it's a lot easier to control the angle at which you are looking at it is than with a laptop. I had used a laptop with a glossy screen and based on my experience with it I would almost always go for a matte display on a laptop.
@@ArdgalAlkeides You can't really fix it. Matte or glossy either way same kinda bad sunlight performance. You can get matte film for your phone, try it, it's not all that helpful.
You can't compare laptops to a desktop. Your Monitor is static so you can choose the best place where it gets the least reflections. Also because black is really black, if you have dark mode on it does not really bother you because everything that has color is so contrasty compared to the turned off blacks that it does not bother you at all. I have two windows directly behind me which are 3 meters away and always half open. I have a 48" Oled TV as a monitor and never in 14.000 hours i complained about reflections, i had a Iiyama 34" Monitor with Hard coating before and it was 3x worse because everything was like milk.
i was trying to clean my monitor today cause it looked dirty and I realized it was just the matte coating looking like trash and making everything gritty and dirty looking. im definitely on team glossy but im also on team choice. these display companies are so massive that its pathetic if they cant figure out how to offer both options for people for whatever reasons someone may prefer one over the other.
@Weeb same with me! I wiped my older screen until it got small scratches, I thought I was was removing a stain...😅. I only found out its matte finish and that I strongly dislike the washed out look 🤮.
My $300 Lenovo tablet has glossy glass finish. So, sure, they can figure it out. But they just don't sell well, because glossy is pretty bad to look at, in a bright room. I've only once seen a glossy display, and that was maybe 15 years ago. It looked horrible, because all you could see, was reflections.
Glossy all the way, matte hurts contrast in oled, mini led or other high contrast displays. All macs are glossy and basically everyone loves them. All our phones are glossy too. I even had to sell my 512gb steam deck because the screen looked worse with the anti glare coating in it. Just put the option for matte and glossy
Glossy monitors are far superior. It's a big shame that they're hard to find now. I can't stand the way matte screens diffuse the light. It bothers my eyes.
Unfortunately, glossy monitors are VERY rare. For me it's not so much about the "blur", it's about the colors. The white that you have on a glossy screen cannot be reproduced on a matte screen.
exactly, we're limited to the most expensive options: LG Ultrafine 5K, and Apple Studio and XDR are the only ones worth while. Samsung just came out with their S9 and it's getting terrible reviews because it's a pile of plastic trash with a fake apple shape.
@@hamidrezasalami4620 Im actually one of those people who use a 48" Oled TV (LG CX) as Monitor. I clocked over 12.000 hours without burn in and its the best "Monitor" i ever had, better than any real monitor. And i use Computers since im 12 (im 29 now). Theres no contest. I still have a Korean IPS WQHD near my Oled and honestly just the pure lack of Coating is just as a big leap as to go from TN to Oled. Its insane! The Glossy Korean does not even look worse than the Oled in direct comparison except the blacks.
Matte gang, as a 3D Model and Graphic Designer I can't afford color skewing on the screen when the precision in determining the colour, edges and composition is so important. I know that the colours pops nicely on the glossy screen but it's difficult to work in bright environment with glossy screen. I started with glossy few years ago, switched to High Refresh Rate Matte with fantastic SRGB + Adobe coverage and never looked back.
@@akarna69 I care. I’m a professional illustrator and have never used a glossy monitor. I was considering looking into one, but this is a great explanation of why it’s not a good option.
Let me educate you a bit. You can't block reflections, it is simply impossible. In fact, matte just makes it look worse. The reflection will look insanely bad on a matte, the whole screen looks so washed and the colors will be terrible unlike on a glossy it will look a lot better even tho there will be reflections, the colors will be way more accurate. I feel bad for you if you didn't know this before. All these years you have been using a matte monitor especially for a 3D model/graphic designing? Oh man...
let me educate all of you, this is a matter of personal preference what works for you or what is pleasing to your eye may not work for the next person, end of discussion@@PahEz
I have a matte Steam Deck and after using glossy monitors for a long time I must say I really like it. It gives that feeling of being visually connected to the game world instead of looking at it through a sheet of glass.
@@ZeroB4NG Also to further expand on that, it is a pretty shoddy IPS panel as well, no hate to the Deck, fantastic device and Valve really knocked it out of the park with it, but by far the biggest "cut corner" with the Deck is the display. A shoddy 720p non OLED panel especially with a low max brightness is exactly where matte finishes start to become much more valid and that is exactly what the Steam Deck has.
@@ZeroB4NG I'd say it doesn't change anything. My monitor is an old glossy IPS and my TV is an LG OLED. Both drive me insane with reflections. If I could return the TV for that I would. Also my laptop is a glossy touch screen and is essentially unusable outside or near cafe/library windows
It depends on the size of the monitor and the distance you're viewing from. Smaller screen, you have to seat a lot closer, reflection become a problem, if you seat a lot further, only light coming from directly behind you will get reflected. As for phone, you can adjust the viewing angle very easily, so it's not a problem as well. That's why most glossy monitors are 34" and up.
You can't forget where you came from in you want to truly appreciate where we are. Offices used to be filled with CRT rounded glass monitors, and either florescent bulbs or incandescent bulbs. Reflections legitimately hit harder back in the day, and crts weren't bright enough to make up the difference. Modern LED lighting in an office or home office, combined with much higher panel brightness has greatly reduced the need for matte finish. (though i will add matte finish requires less cleaning)
At work I sometimes make art frames, and one of my glass choices is museum glass, which is 7x more expensive than usual one. Virtually no reflections. I wonder if it could be used for monitors?
@@halrichard1969 I have a "glass" monitor at work. Multiple. I also have dissassembled a lot of screens in my life, and still daily. Also I have a laptop with glass touch screen. And don't forget about tablets and phones.
Matte, because whatever advantage a glossy panel has, the moment there's even a tiny bit of reflections in it, the quality goes out the window. Better color? Sure, but if the color mixes with the color of ur face (or whatever bright background u have), what's the point then? It's matte or nothing for me, at least for a monitor.
It's weird seeing Connor not flying into the center of the screen as his character at the start of the video. Kinda nice seeing him in a normal light, though I appreciate his theatrics.
Yeah, He talks completely different here.. I definitely don't get the voice inflections and the theatrics on his own channel. He's a very cool guy in normal mode. But I'm guessing he wouldn't be doing it if it wasn't actually getting him more views. But, I wouldn't sacrifice my dignity for views.
Matte. My first experience with one was ordering a 2011-ish MBP from apple and having the option to trick it out with a matte panel (Apple was cool). The stock option was the glass covered panel we all know as standard in 2023. I was just getting started in uni and wanted something that would deal with open windows and fluorescent lights. Ordered, was smitten. Did exactly what wanted it to do. Have tried to go matte with all the things ever since.
I prefer matte. Monitor is meant to be looked at for a long period of time and the reduction on eye strain is critical. It seems like most comments here also prefer matte.
Matte has nothing to do with reduced eye strain. There are plenty here in the comments that would prefer glossy options at the very least. I can’t even see anything on my matte 4k monitor during the day due to a large haze that is spread across the screen. Meanwhile I have no issues viewing my glossy MacBook screen.
Would it kill manufacturers to have a choice? They could start with limited quantities of glossy. If the glossy sells, increase production. I would bet that glossy would overtake matte.
I sit in front of my monitor doing work (design and video production) all day long. I'll choose a matte finish over glossy ever single time. All my monitors are matte. My Steam Deck is matte. There should always be choice in the market. There are good use cases for both and no ones eyes/brains are exactly the same.
A T.V. that is glossy is ok I guess since your not watching 1/2 the time but looking at a glossy monitor screen requires work on your end. Maybe both options will be supported.
I don't have the luxury of a closed environment with my PC. I don't have AC, my window need to be kept open because I need the air stream. I even had putted a dark furniture behind me to get less reflections back when I used CRT monitors. But when I got my first matte LCD monitor, what a beauty. Not a inch of reflection. Some will say that you can increase brightness to overcome reflections, but I also have astigmatism and I'm highly sensitive to very bright light sources. So a bright monitor would get me blind at night. My current monitor is a Benq with shortcut buttons at the base, that permit me to change setups with a single press. At night, I change to less brightness because a day config is too bright to me. In the end, I get the appeal of glossy finish, but don't think for a moment it serves for everybody. Different people have different needs and the last thing we need is this mentality of "I like/use this, therefore everybody does".
Define "high end" almost every expensive industrial with the best contrast and high pixeldensity and all you wanna name it... are all non-glossy... they are all matte. Yes glossy screens do tend to look more "bright" more contrast and or saturation... but those colors are mostly pumped up so it looks amazing.
It’s true that matte or semi matte finish screens somehow degrade the image quality, but glare is much more difficult to live with. I have very little control of positioning, so I’m with Gordon here. But if you can avoid glare and distracting reflections, then I agree that glossy screens provide the best picture quality. I wonder what Connor thinks of the anti reflective screens on iPads (Air, Pro, Mini). Screen quality doesn’t seem to be affected by the coating.
Matte is just a failed and outdated tech for a gaming monitor. I definitely have an advantage in fps because I game on my 34 inch oled that has a glossy finish compared to my 4K gaming monitor with as matte finish.
High end color editing monitors that go so far as including hoods to block direct reflections… are still matte. They’re talking about “high end” in this video but they just mean gaming monitors not serious professional tools.
Definitely switching back to matte after like 10 years with a glossy. Nothing worse than a dark scene in a game becoming a mirror where I can see myself and the rest of the room better than what's actually in game.
@@mjc0961 Frankly I'm shocked at how many people say reflections aren't an issue. Like I get it for night viewing since for most rooms you can pretty cheaply and easily set up lighting so that it's behind the TV, to function as a sort of bias lighting. But daytime viewing in any rooms I've been in, if you have a window perpendicular to the screen, the ambient light makes glossy screens a nightmare. I guess most of these fancypants are out golfing on weekend afternoons and so haven't come across the issue. Or they black out their house when they want to use their screens in the day. Dunno.
I prefer matte laptop screens for work because I am able to look at my screen for 3 hours or more and it feels fine and doesn't hurt my eyes at all and I prefer to use glossy screen in a tablet or smartphone for media consumption. That simple. Nowadays in 2023, people have all three: laptops, tablets and most important gadget: smartphones.
Matte screens work everywhere. Glossy only in theater situations where the user is far enough away from the monitor so that light coming from the monitor doesn't bounce off the user and is then reflected on the monitor's screen. Any other argument is an attempt at performing mental contortions.
OLED+GLOSSY equals any light reflectioning Am light matte is always preferable yeah you are not gonna notice in bright scenes but anytime you are displaying anything dark.
For work or creator purposes where you gotta be looking at the screen for hours on end matte is the way to go because reflective lights can get annoying after awhile. But if gaming is the primary go definitely go glossy. Also glossy screens have some really good anti reflective material nowadays.
As someone who uses a MacBook with a glossy display and have to connect it to a disgusting matte finish 4k monitor, I can actually see my MacBook display with lots of light around me. My monitor on the other hand is borderline unusable because I have this haze over the screen because of the diffusion.
You must get the display that matches the feng shui of your home. I have one of Dells 34" QD-OLED displays, which is a glossy display with an anti-reflective coating. Looks great and can easily recommend. I think dell has a good approach as their anti-reflective coating diffuses the light enough to prevent distractions while gaming. Not sure how great that coating is for content creation though.
look at how matte guy is dressed, age, & weight compared to glossy guy, has a sense of aesthetics & style, need I say more about which of the two places importances on aesthetics, creativity, art, sophistication, polished, glossy, sharpness, depth, high contrast? This is a perfect illustration.
That's kind of not true, not all glossy TV and monitor are highly reflective. Rting did rank LG C2 with glossy finish as less reflective than a matt monitor, I didn't get it at first and even made an inquiry with them about that. But then I went from my old FV43U VA to the C2 42 myself and you know what? They were right. Yes, the C2 is glossy and yes, it's nowhere bright enough to fight any sort of glares. But unless you shine a flash light directly on it, you will have to try really hard to see your face on that display. Imagine you're looking at something like a black jade. Yes, it is reflective but it's also black and most of the time, what you see is the shadow and not a direct refelction of your environment on it. The FV43U on the hand, despite being semi-gloss - is highly reflective. Yes, I don't really see the 1:1 of my face but I saw the colour of my skin, the LED backlight of my keyboard and mouse, along with every light source in the room despite the fact.
Matte. I get that Gloss is prettier, but watching TV and having a spot where the light is blasting is annoying. While trying to read code - is impossible.
can anyone guide me to a glossy monitor which is 27inch please,all these tech companies who you buy monitors from don't add info about it being glossy or not
Everyone talks OLED for desktop. As someone who has caused burn-in on IPS until image retention is resolved, no way. Right now on the HP with a LG B2 I run black background and hidden transparent Taskbar.
good to know people like you exist, how do you find time to play video games at your age. This is one of my biggest concerns that I might lose touch to gaming and maybe even lose interest as I get older.
I don't get the pixel density argument. I had a 4k 28" matte monitor and it was fine. If the DPI is much higher than that, you're not going to see the extra resolution. Contrast might be arguable, but personally I have zero need for HDR, and don't see a problem with SDR. Light hitting a matte display at worst results in contrast reduction. Light hitting gloss means you see everything. My worst PC display was a glossy one on a laptop I got. Every time I used it had to try to angle it to find a location that didn't reflect badly. I do have an OLED TV, and even then, yes, I'd love for it to be matte too. When it is on you don't see if it is glossy or not, but I do see the unwanted reflections. Space is not generous so rearranging the environment is not a good option.
glossy makes the text more visble epescilly matte diffuse light all over the place it looks pcoo 4k oled matte its blurry glossy is sharp and the refletion is less blurred and you wont notice
I prefer the ever so slightly matte coating (semi-gloss). It isn't as distracting as having full mirror reflections, nor does it look like you spilled vaseline all over the screen.
I don't know what type of displays people are using, but my Asus 43" matte monitor is pretty vibrant and crisp (excluding the horrendous motion smearing)
@@Ben-Rogue you won't know about the true difference in visual clarity unless you're comparing like for like (LG C2 vs desktop monitor counterpart). even then you would be hard pressed telling the difference and so it all comes down to your own tolerances for certain things. don't trust any of these guys who say that there's a noticeable difference, they're regurgitating the same old bottom of the barrel narrative that happens to be making these giga corporations more money from additional sales. same as the electric car, hybrid or ICE debate. keep consuming our products sheep.
All your mobile devices you are using outside has a glossy screens, that's a really strong point👍 I would be very surprised if anyone wanted it to be matt by their own will. It's just stupid, because it will make a great picture of your precious smartphone obviously worse. The screen will be evenly lit (instead one light point) lowering overall contrast, colours and even hiding fine details. Definitely make sense in a specific situations and limited scenarios, but in everyday usage, i don't think so.
Yeah phones usually use glossy screens. And usually on a sunny day it's incredibly hard to read anything on them unless they have really high brightness. So probably not a great point.
@@3Dantnot at all, high end phone have gotten so freaking bright nowadays that it completely punches it's way through their glossy screens even in very sunny environments
I'm 100% in the glossy camp. I'm accustomed to matte, but since making the switch to 4k the blur that it adds is quite noticeable. After seeing 4k on a glossy screen it's a _massive_ difference in clarity. It's like adding a piece of wax paper over your phone. Place a white square on a black screen and you'll see the diffusion Connor is talking about. For true contrast clarity you need a gloss surface. While I understand if you're spending all day in a brightly lit studio the reflection can be highly distracting but I grew up with CRT glass monitors so I've _never_ had my computer in a brightly lit room. Not to mention who's going to use a touch screen laptop with a plastic screen? Eww.
What about a glossy display with a matte finish attachable piece. Maybe for laptops and or desktop displays or phones and tablets for outdoor or bright rooms. Then we could always have glossy, but with an optional matte. Maybe this would come with terrible viewing problems, or flimsy frames or broken and or difficult to store contraptions, if it's meant to be detachable. Though an option like this may be viable for those who require it, if your location doesn't involve direct sunlight, lamplight, firelight, room lights, then maybe this option is not applicable to your situation. Saying this there are likely already products like this, probably for phones and tablets at least, but maybe not as easily for laptops and desktop displays.
@@profosist matte displays are too dim and not that bright compared to glossy displays that are very bright and color saturated is something that I look for in displays, basically samsung displays that have colors that pop and are color saturated, plus matte displays leaves oils on the displays when there are finger prints on the displays and it makes it harder to remove finger prints on matte displays when finger prints are easier to remove on glossy displays, I don't know if there is any spray that makes keeps the glossy display while removing the glare like there is a spray for cars that keeps the rims on a car very shiny but for monitor displays that keep the displays glossy and make them very shiny with anti glare spray, all 4k tvs don't use a matte display, lcd and led tvs are glossy and none of them use matte displays, using the same display technology from all 4k tvs and put them into monitors since 4k tvs are brighter than any glossy and matte displays
I'm just glad there are more mini led displays coming out on laptops and some gaming monitors, now hopefully there will be micro leds on laptops and monitors that get even brighter than mini led displays, since I'm waiting for micro led tvs like from samsung to make them available on all laptops and all monitors and even android phones with options for mini led displays and micro led displays since oled have burn in issues. It took a long time for laptop manufacturers to put mini led displays on the there laptops and msi was the first manufacturer to put a 1,000 nits 4k mini led display from the creator 17 laptop with the 2070 super gpu, 1,000 nits should be any industry standard. 250 and 450 nits are too measly and too dim displays and having the option for better and brighter displays should be also important since you are going to be looking at the screen the whole time. With 250 and 450 nits are too dim and took dark and you could barely see much of the screen.
Glossy displays are pretty but not suitable for everyday use, or long view times. So, glossy displays have their uses but for regular use, non-glossy panels are king. Basically, glossy is good for TVs and bad for monitors.
Eh, no. I used many glossy displays as a kid/teenager, and they looked amazing. In fact I used a glossy display as a teenager for years and it was my favorite display, and that's the reason I want glossy displays to come back. But then we have clowns like you saying that they are not suitable for everyday use. Go back to your circus.
I'd argue glossy is bad for TVs too, as most TVs are used in well light environments, where glossy is it's worst. I think people just see shiny black and think it must mean great contrast. My ASUS 4k monitor is matte, and the contrast is as good as any shiny high end 4K TV I've seen (OLED excluded). Also, people arguing 4k OLED and matte won't work are just pull stuff out of their rear, as I've yet to see a matte 4k OLED
@@Ben-Rogue You have no clue how matte ruins the image quality, a glossy IPS Panel is even superior to a Matte OLED panel. Reason is blacks are still greyish even if the pixels are off just because of the coating. And the clarity is horrible. If you use a matte panel and you care for image quality you are fooling yourself. You are restricing yourself to horrible image quality just because you are worried by reflections which are not even the slightest problem if you have your PC in the same room as your TV.
@DarkSession6208"Ruins the image quality"? Please explain how (you can't). And explain why all high end monitors and reference monitors are more or less all matte.
I work in a lab with massive windows, even here I prefer my glossy screen, i have 2 at work. BUT at home were I can make my room as dark as cave why in hell i am going to pick a blurry screen?
Glossy. Own both a LG42C2 and a PG48UQ which in essence are the same panel. I'm returning the PG48UQ because the glossy C2 despite some minor shortcomings is a much better looking OLED panel. I couldn't call myself a young person.
I had a LG42C2 and had to replace it with the Asus PG42 oled specifically for the matte. Using the glossy LG all day everyday for work ended up causing eye strain and gave me headaches. Since switching to the matte Asus monitor I have had much less headaches.
@@CaptainScorpio24 it is different when you are looking at a computer monitor trying to read tiny text all day long with different lighting. Tv is different you do not concentrate on the screen in the same way and you don't sit as close.
@@5ean5ean22 well you can defend it all I can tell you is I 1.) Had to strain my eyes to work. 2.) I got headaches from using the C2 as a monitor. So you can whine and complain telling me I'm wrong but I'm not. I know what I experienced and what has changed. Sure do glossy screens look good when there are no crazy reflections? Yes, but from a day to day coding and productivity experience it was horrible. From a gaming experience it was incredible. But guess what? The matte screen is equally a great experience for gaming and is an incredible productivity experience for me.
Matte, unless you are only doing content consumption or creation. Gaming, Office work, coding, engineering works etc...., matte will feel better for your eyes.
i was so hyped to buy the samsung neo g8 4k mini LED gaming monitor. so much so i drove down to my nearest pc world today to eye ball what they look like. i left so buzzing to buy one and now i am back to being confused as as far as i am aware its a full matt panel haha
I have a glossy 500 nits 2k IPS screen 89/89/89/89 so I have the best view from everywhere I'm looking my laptop screen :) Reflections? nah with 500 nits at max bright doesn't bother me at all :) Long life to the Glossy team!
I gotta go with matte. I grew up on CRTs with terrible glare and it scarred me for life. The slight sacrifice in clarity is more than worth not having to have your computer in a cave. Plus matte mitigates eye and neck strain from prolonged usage.
If you're comfortable with and capable of controlling light in the space you use the display, glossy will simply be better for content consumption. But not everyone has that luxury. If you have light in the space, you're going to induce eye strain and have distracting mirror like glare with a glossy display, which kinda ruins it's benefits as opposed to a matte display.
I just wish my laptop screen was IPS instead of shitty TN and my LG ultrawide monitor was glossy instead of mate which destroys the contrast in an otherwise perfect panel.
Right now Valve announced OLED Deck and I am trying to do as much research on glossy Oleds as I can because matte is for the higher tier SD and mid tier has glossy. Seems like Oled does better with gloss for entertainment.
There is no discussion, glossy is for optimal image quality. Either you prefer optimal image quality or you are one of the weird people that sacrifice image quality because you are reflection phobic.
Glossy FTW! I've never understood why people like matte screens. To me they make EVERYTHING worse! Colours get washed out. Black levels get washed out making an OLED look like a cheap IPS. Everything looks dirty and grainy like sands been rubbed into the screen. Not to mention the whole point of matte screens, to cut down on reflections and make the screen more visible in direct light, doesn't actually work. Instead of having 10 square cm of the screen covered by a bright reflection with gloss screens, you now have this diffuse light covering the whole screen making the whole screen illegible. How's that better? It reminds me of that episode of MythBusters where Jamie stepped into a pitch-black room with a matte white shirt on and the diffused light off the shirt lit up the whole room. Would you rather 10% of your screen illegible or 100%? Yes, you're dispersing the light, so it's less intense in one area. But I'd rather one small area extremely reflective rather than the whole screen grainy washed out and diffuse. There's a reason why matte screens are only found on low end products...
Glossy makes only Sense on O-LED TVs - Monitors. Matte makes sense only on non O-LED Monitors - TVs. Why You ASK? Go Look up what OLED is and go Look up what LCD or IPS or Nano LED or Mini LED is. :)
Matte is the only correct answer. There's no point in having bright contrasty colours on a glossy display when half of it is lost to reflections. I'd kill for a properly matte phone. I wish my Fold 4 was matte inside and out. My monitor at home is a matte 34" curved ultrawide and the matte screen makes it wonderful.
You are coping, everyone who wants good image quality a) has lower brightness than default b) watches in a dark or semi dark environment. So reflections physically are not a issue. If you don't do both of those things you don't need a good monitor to begin with.
@@nickthaskaterEveryone who gives a shit about image quality. Saying matte is good is good on a Oled or any other monitor is like building a track tool with the best possible components and then using the worst tyres. It destroys the point of what you want to have.
Glossy monitors make the colors pop more but become quite reflective in a lit room. After having used both glossy and matte monitors I'd have to say I prefer using the latter as the colors will still pop if the panel is of good quality and I won't have that much of an issue with smearing on the glass or light sources/ the sun creating an issue. My Thinkpads have all been matte displays as my Dell laptops with glossy screens weren't hacking it outdoors. Smartphones I do like flat glass screens and tempered glass screen protectors but will admit the matte film screen protectors allow for better sunlight visibility at more angles.
I am genuinely convinced that at least 80% of the people saying they prefer matte have never actually tried a high end glossy display. No, your 768p glossy laptop from 2013 DOESN'T count as an actual showcase of glossy displays unfortunately, you definitely need to actually experience it to really have any idea what it is like. Obviously yes, some people will still prefer matte, but definitely not the overwhelming majority like it is now.
I'm sure they have, as most people who have ever purchased a modern TV knows how bad glossy is in the day time or in a room at night with lights on
We've used smart phones and modern TVs.
Apple Studio Display beats all monitors in 60Hz
Exactly!
I have a MUCH easier time seeing things on my glossy MacBook screen during the day than my 4k monitor. All matte does is scatter the light across a large portion of the display rendering it absolutely worthless in daylight. Matte just sucks, period.
May be 2% PPL like matte.
Can we just get glossy monitors with a DIY matte layer (included) we can apply if we want? Idk how hard this would be to do, but it can't be that bad. Probably no worse than putting a screen protector on your phone.
There are matte screen protectors... for phones, tablets, steam deck etc. results may vary depending on brand and screen type.
I don't think they exist for TVs, applying those would be a giant PITA.
@@ZeroB4NG you can buy a cheap TV with a matte finish.
But you would probably never buy it because you would think the brightness is gimped or complain why the blacks look so gray.
Matte finish is pretty much "I want no blacks" which is why all name brand tvs avoid them
@@ZeroB4NG I am sure there is a valid reason it is not a thing. Either cost or your average user just not wanting to be bothered.
Doing that is what makes the matte diffusion effect which is bad...
because remember the glas is already shiny now you're putting another layer on top that is matte then that means the light coming off that glass is going to reflect the difusion and then gets diffused again by the matte layer you applied o ntop of that.
it's not a good solution.
Matte screens must be matte from factory, not a DIY layer on top of a shiny screen
@@daedalusrunner8423 don't be a dick about it
Glossy for movies and gaming in the dark. The moment there is any light source or even reflected light of the screen itself, matte all the way. I hate reflections. Somehow I'm able to notice even the tiniest reflection of keyboard, glass of water or anything which disrupts my immersion a lot more than tiny blur by matte in normal conditions. Easier on the eyes.
But then I'm also not into 4k yet. Because GPUs until recently struggled a lot with high refresh at 4k and it's still expensive as a whole.
Pov: matte blur is massive at my eye.
@@gimmy2294Yeah, that bothered me even as a child. Glad to know now that I was not crazy 😂
Glossy all day finally someone making this video Thank You so much for this!
I just recently purchased the Alienware 34" QD OLED with the Glossy. Its my first GLOSSY panel. My man cave is conditioned enough to give me minimal reflection onto my Screen. Happy Days.
I really like Connor as a You Tuber. Been subbed to his channel for about a year now. Even sometimes if he doesnt have alot of content to work with, he makes it sound interesting with this energized presentation that sounds like the Sham Wow Guy. Remember him? He now has a second YT channel called The Display Guy. Anyway glad to see Gordon and PC World recognize Connor for his efforts.
Dude even when it comes to dealing with reflections, matte is also super bad, some say even worse......it diffuses the light, make the reflection taking even more space on your monitor.
I've noticed that this comment section is very based regarding matte coatings. Apperantly ya'll do not appreciate better contrast, colors popping and high clarity in terms of visual quality from glossy screens 🤔
I prefer my eyes not hurting after an hour of looking at the screen and being able to use the screen with proper lighting
Contrast doesn't mean much when all I can see in a night time scene in a movie is my own head
I'm a designer, I need glossy monitors. I need to see proper color, not a blurry mess. I can only use LG Ultrafine 5K or Apple Cinema/Thunderbolt/Studio/XDR displays
would you still recommend glossy for a guy that play single player games but i have light behind my gaming setup it may cause problem with glossy monitor
I don't think using phones as an argument for why glossy screens aren't an issue on a laptop makes sense because a phone screen is a lot smaller and it's a lot easier to control the angle at which you are looking at it is than with a laptop. I had used a laptop with a glossy screen and based on my experience with it I would almost always go for a matte display on a laptop.
@@ArdgalAlkeides You can't really fix it. Matte or glossy either way same kinda bad sunlight performance. You can get matte film for your phone, try it, it's not all that helpful.
You can't compare laptops to a desktop. Your Monitor is static so you can choose the best place where it gets the least reflections. Also because black is really black, if you have dark mode on it does not really bother you because everything that has color is so contrasty compared to the turned off blacks that it does not bother you at all. I have two windows directly behind me which are 3 meters away and always half open. I have a 48" Oled TV as a monitor and never in 14.000 hours i complained about reflections, i had a Iiyama 34" Monitor with Hard coating before and it was 3x worse because everything was like milk.
i was trying to clean my monitor today cause it looked dirty and I realized it was just the matte coating looking like trash and making everything gritty and dirty looking. im definitely on team glossy but im also on team choice. these display companies are so massive that its pathetic if they cant figure out how to offer both options for people for whatever reasons someone may prefer one over the other.
In 2008 my parents bought a couple plasma monitors, one matte and one glossy, so it's not like this somehow never occurred to anyone before
@Weeb same with me! I wiped my older screen until it got small scratches, I thought I was was removing a stain...😅.
I only found out its matte finish and that I strongly dislike the washed out look 🤮.
@@Daniel_WR_Hart I'm in agreement with you! 🎉 There should be a choice between the three, there was before like you said in your comment.
My $300 Lenovo tablet has glossy glass finish. So, sure, they can figure it out. But they just don't sell well, because glossy is pretty bad to look at, in a bright room.
I've only once seen a glossy display, and that was maybe 15 years ago. It looked horrible, because all you could see, was reflections.
Glossy all the way, matte hurts contrast in oled, mini led or other high contrast displays. All macs are glossy and basically everyone loves them. All our phones are glossy too. I even had to sell my 512gb steam deck because the screen looked worse with the anti glare coating in it. Just put the option for matte and glossy
Mac users liking glossy screen isn't a good example, as they're morons
Glossy monitors are far superior. It's a big shame that they're hard to find now. I can't stand the way matte screens diffuse the light. It bothers my eyes.
No, Matt monitors are easier to buy than glossy.
Because måtte is way better.
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Unfortunately, glossy monitors are VERY rare. For me it's not so much about the "blur", it's about the colors. The white that you have on a glossy screen cannot be reproduced on a matte screen.
it's truly rare for the glossy one. I searched all the time to get one.
You can buy an
OED TV and use it as monitor. I don't have it cause I don't have enough money to buy it lol
exactly, we're limited to the most expensive options: LG Ultrafine 5K, and Apple Studio and XDR are the only ones worth while. Samsung just came out with their S9 and it's getting terrible reviews because it's a pile of plastic trash with a fake apple shape.
@@hckhanhcheck out alogic clarity monitor
@@hamidrezasalami4620 Im actually one of those people who use a 48" Oled TV (LG CX) as Monitor. I clocked over 12.000 hours without burn in and its the best "Monitor" i ever had, better than any real monitor. And i use Computers since im 12 (im 29 now). Theres no contest. I still have a Korean IPS WQHD near my Oled and honestly just the pure lack of Coating is just as a big leap as to go from TN to Oled. Its insane! The Glossy Korean does not even look worse than the Oled in direct comparison except the blacks.
A 3rd option is in between. My monitor (Korean 40” monitor that is really a tv panel) is semi-gloss
Matte gang, as a 3D Model and Graphic Designer I can't afford color skewing on the screen when the precision in determining the colour, edges and composition is so important. I know that the colours pops nicely on the glossy screen but it's difficult to work in bright environment with glossy screen. I started with glossy few years ago, switched to High Refresh Rate Matte with fantastic SRGB + Adobe coverage and never looked back.
Cool story bro, nobody cares. 😄
@@akarna69 I care. I’m a professional illustrator and have never used a glossy monitor. I was considering looking into one, but this is a great explanation of why it’s not a good option.
@@heh_boaner like I said, nobody cares. 😄
Let me educate you a bit. You can't block reflections, it is simply impossible. In fact, matte just makes it look worse. The reflection will look insanely bad on a matte, the whole screen looks so washed and the colors will be terrible unlike on a glossy it will look a lot better even tho there will be reflections, the colors will be way more accurate. I feel bad for you if you didn't know this before. All these years you have been using a matte monitor especially for a 3D model/graphic designing? Oh man...
let me educate all of you, this is a matter of personal preference what works for you or what is pleasing to your eye may not work for the next person, end of discussion@@PahEz
I have a matte Steam Deck and after using glossy monitors for a long time I must say I really like it. It gives that feeling of being visually connected to the game world instead of looking at it through a sheet of glass.
Just for the record, that is a IPS screen.
Video talks about high end OLED stuff. Not sure how much that actually matters.
@@ZeroB4NG Also to further expand on that, it is a pretty shoddy IPS panel as well, no hate to the Deck, fantastic device and Valve really knocked it out of the park with it, but by far the biggest "cut corner" with the Deck is the display. A shoddy 720p non OLED panel especially with a low max brightness is exactly where matte finishes start to become much more valid and that is exactly what the Steam Deck has.
@@ZeroB4NG I'd say it doesn't change anything. My monitor is an old glossy IPS and my TV is an LG OLED. Both drive me insane with reflections. If I could return the TV for that I would. Also my laptop is a glossy touch screen and is essentially unusable outside or near cafe/library windows
I feel the opposite. The way matte screens diffuse the light bothers my eyes and makes me more aware that I'm looking at a screen.
Well the Steam Deck is designed to be used all over the place so it makes sensev
It depends on the size of the monitor and the distance you're viewing from. Smaller screen, you have to seat a lot closer, reflection become a problem, if you seat a lot further, only light coming from directly behind you will get reflected. As for phone, you can adjust the viewing angle very easily, so it's not a problem as well. That's why most glossy monitors are 34" and up.
You can't forget where you came from in you want to truly appreciate where we are. Offices used to be filled with CRT rounded glass monitors, and either florescent bulbs or incandescent bulbs. Reflections legitimately hit harder back in the day, and crts weren't bright enough to make up the difference. Modern LED lighting in an office or home office, combined with much higher panel brightness has greatly reduced the need for matte finish.
(though i will add matte finish requires less cleaning)
At work I sometimes make art frames, and one of my glass choices is museum glass, which is 7x more expensive than usual one. Virtually no reflections. I wonder if it could be used for monitors?
Monitiors do not use "glass" as a cover. Monitors use a soft screen.
@@halrichard1969 I have a "glass" monitor at work. Multiple. I also have dissassembled a lot of screens in my life, and still daily. Also I have a laptop with glass touch screen. And don't forget about tablets and phones.
Matte, because whatever advantage a glossy panel has, the moment there's even a tiny bit of reflections in it, the quality goes out the window. Better color? Sure, but if the color mixes with the color of ur face (or whatever bright background u have), what's the point then? It's matte or nothing for me, at least for a monitor.
Interesting because my phone is glossy and i never had any problem with it anywherw
Uhm. Brightness helps with reflections. And matte takes the contrast out of the whole screen by defusing it.
@@Henry-if9puNo, it doesn't! There are no difference measurable, on glossy vs matte displays in color accuracy or gamut cover. They are identical.
It's weird seeing Connor not flying into the center of the screen as his character at the start of the video. Kinda nice seeing him in a normal light, though I appreciate his theatrics.
Yep, definitely in his more conservative behavior mode. 😀😀
I don't, the theatrics are annoying as hell. As if his target audience are Fortnite kids.
He's popping in his videos like he's on something lol.
Yeah, He talks completely different here.. I definitely don't get the voice inflections and the theatrics on his own channel. He's a very cool guy in normal mode.
But I'm guessing he wouldn't be doing it if it wasn't actually getting him more views. But, I wouldn't sacrifice my dignity for views.
This was cool! Matte vs Glossy... The battle rages on!
All macs have glossy screen. Apple offers a very good anti reflective coating. I don’t know what’s up with monitor manufacturers.
No, they don't. You can buy the XDR and the ASD with matte coating.
Matte. My first experience with one was ordering a 2011-ish MBP from apple and having the option to trick it out with a matte panel (Apple was cool). The stock option was the glass covered panel we all know as standard in 2023. I was just getting started in uni and wanted something that would deal with open windows and fluorescent lights.
Ordered, was smitten. Did exactly what wanted it to do.
Have tried to go matte with all the things ever since.
I prefer matte. Monitor is meant to be looked at for a long period of time and the reduction on eye strain is critical.
It seems like most comments here also prefer matte.
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Matte has nothing to do with reduced eye strain. There are plenty here in the comments that would prefer glossy options at the very least.
I can’t even see anything on my matte 4k monitor during the day due to a large haze that is spread across the screen. Meanwhile I have no issues viewing my glossy MacBook screen.
Would it kill manufacturers to have a choice? They could start with limited quantities of glossy. If the glossy sells, increase production. I would bet that glossy would overtake matte.
I sit in front of my monitor doing work (design and video production) all day long. I'll choose a matte finish over glossy ever single time. All my monitors are matte. My Steam Deck is matte. There should always be choice in the market. There are good use cases for both and no ones eyes/brains are exactly the same.
A T.V. that is glossy is ok I guess since your not watching 1/2 the time but looking at a glossy monitor screen requires work on your end. Maybe both options will be supported.
If im spending all this money on an oled monitor i dont want a matte layer ruining the picture quality. Glossy all the way.
I don't have the luxury of a closed environment with my PC. I don't have AC, my window need to be kept open because I need the air stream. I even had putted a dark furniture behind me to get less reflections back when I used CRT monitors. But when I got my first matte LCD monitor, what a beauty. Not a inch of reflection.
Some will say that you can increase brightness to overcome reflections, but I also have astigmatism and I'm highly sensitive to very bright light sources. So a bright monitor would get me blind at night. My current monitor is a Benq with shortcut buttons at the base, that permit me to change setups with a single press. At night, I change to less brightness because a day config is too bright to me.
In the end, I get the appeal of glossy finish, but don't think for a moment it serves for everybody. Different people have different needs and the last thing we need is this mentality of "I like/use this, therefore everybody does".
Yeah if i have to use a gloss monitor I have to take frequent breaks from the eye strain alone
Define "high end" almost every expensive industrial with the best contrast and high pixeldensity and all you wanna name it... are all non-glossy... they are all matte. Yes glossy screens do tend to look more "bright" more contrast and or saturation... but those colors are mostly pumped up so it looks amazing.
You can buy polishing compound and make any monitor semi-gloss.
It’s true that matte or semi matte finish screens somehow degrade the image quality, but glare is much more difficult to live with. I have very little control of positioning, so I’m with Gordon here. But if you can avoid glare and distracting reflections, then I agree that glossy screens provide the best picture quality.
I wonder what Connor thinks of the anti reflective screens on iPads (Air, Pro, Mini). Screen quality doesn’t seem to be affected by the coating.
Glossy for the best picture. 💯
Matte is just a failed and outdated tech for a gaming monitor. I definitely have an advantage in fps because I game on my 34 inch oled that has a glossy finish compared to my 4K gaming monitor with as matte finish.
High end color editing monitors that go so far as including hoods to block direct reflections… are still matte. They’re talking about “high end” in this video but they just mean gaming monitors not serious professional tools.
Imagine when doing color correction on your $10k monitor and all you see is your big face😢
Glossy just better 😌
No dude matt screens are better
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@@-C3S4R- Put the thumbs Down all you Want Matt projectors are better. Also, most monitors come with that kind of screens
@@ROBLOX-1gv7ej2j 🤢🤮
Definitely switching back to matte after like 10 years with a glossy. Nothing worse than a dark scene in a game becoming a mirror where I can see myself and the rest of the room better than what's actually in game.
Exactly.
@@mjc0961 Frankly I'm shocked at how many people say reflections aren't an issue. Like I get it for night viewing since for most rooms you can pretty cheaply and easily set up lighting so that it's behind the TV, to function as a sort of bias lighting.
But daytime viewing in any rooms I've been in, if you have a window perpendicular to the screen, the ambient light makes glossy screens a nightmare.
I guess most of these fancypants are out golfing on weekend afternoons and so haven't come across the issue. Or they black out their house when they want to use their screens in the day. Dunno.
does it even matter for ips mini led displays
it's sad that companies stopped making glossy monitors and they stick to mate screens!
I prefer matte laptop screens for work because I am able to look at my screen for 3 hours or more and it feels fine and doesn't hurt my eyes at all and I prefer to use glossy screen in a tablet or smartphone for media consumption. That simple. Nowadays in 2023, people have all three: laptops, tablets and most important gadget: smartphones.
Both are good for different purposes. That said, I have large windows in my work area, I'll take a matte screen any day of the way.
So do I but glossy is still preferable for me
Matte screens work everywhere. Glossy only in theater situations where the user is far enough away from the monitor so that light coming from the monitor doesn't bounce off the user and is then reflected on the monitor's screen. Any other argument is an attempt at performing mental contortions.
Glossy all the way!
OLED+GLOSSY equals any light reflectioning
Am light matte is always preferable yeah you are not gonna notice in bright scenes but anytime you are displaying anything dark.
Hate when I'm playing a game and it turns night (in game), and all I see in the monitor is myself looking at a monitor.
😂😂😂
For work or creator purposes where you gotta be looking at the screen for hours on end matte is the way to go because reflective lights can get annoying after awhile. But if gaming is the primary go definitely go glossy. Also glossy screens have some really good anti reflective material nowadays.
As someone who uses a MacBook with a glossy display and have to connect it to a disgusting matte finish 4k monitor, I can actually see my MacBook display with lots of light around me. My monitor on the other hand is borderline unusable because I have this haze over the screen because of the diffusion.
@@bren.rbecause retina display use 1000 nits ?
You must get the display that matches the feng shui of your home.
I have one of Dells 34" QD-OLED displays, which is a glossy display with an anti-reflective coating. Looks great and can easily recommend. I think dell has a good approach as their anti-reflective coating diffuses the light enough to prevent distractions while gaming. Not sure how great that coating is for content creation though.
GLOSSY!!!
I have both matte and glossy screens. I prefer Matte, easier on the eyes and no reflection.
Easier on the eyes? Huh?
What a clown. Even cellphones have glossy screens now days, as well as Apple screens. Everyone against it is just clueless.
Matte screens don't strain your eyes as much as gloss, especially as you get older
look at how matte guy is dressed, age, & weight compared to glossy guy, has a sense of aesthetics & style, need I say more about which of the two places importances on aesthetics, creativity, art, sophistication, polished, glossy, sharpness, depth, high contrast? This is a perfect illustration.
That's kind of not true, not all glossy TV and monitor are highly reflective. Rting did rank LG C2 with glossy finish as less reflective than a matt monitor, I didn't get it at first and even made an inquiry with them about that. But then I went from my old FV43U VA to the C2 42 myself and you know what? They were right.
Yes, the C2 is glossy and yes, it's nowhere bright enough to fight any sort of glares. But unless you shine a flash light directly on it, you will have to try really hard to see your face on that display. Imagine you're looking at something like a black jade. Yes, it is reflective but it's also black and most of the time, what you see is the shadow and not a direct refelction of your environment on it.
The FV43U on the hand, despite being semi-gloss - is highly reflective. Yes, I don't really see the 1:1 of my face but I saw the colour of my skin, the LED backlight of my keyboard and mouse, along with every light source in the room despite the fact.
Matte. I get that Gloss is prettier, but watching TV and having a spot where the light is blasting is annoying. While trying to read code - is impossible.
Glossy is objectively superior in terms of visuals.
@@Shadowsmoke11 Maybe in complete darkness. Who does that?
You do realize that most TVs these days are glossy, right?
Then turn the lights off or close the curtains
Great see Gordon talking to new and upcoming Connor 🙂
What can you recommend out there for me a glossy finish monitor. Without the cost of arm and leg
Used. Also a lot of older monitors are glossy as well. Modern 1440p, 4k brand new glossy finish will be expensive, older 1080p glossy will be cheap
Glossy is way better especially if your gaming!!
can anyone guide me to a glossy monitor which is 27inch please,all these tech companies who you buy monitors from don't add info about it being glossy or not
What about for outside on a football field work in the summer and I need a computer monitor? semi matte, matte, glossy?
Matte with a monitor hood.
matte
Everyone talks OLED for desktop. As someone who has caused burn-in on IPS until image retention is resolved, no way.
Right now on the HP with a LG B2 I run black background and hidden transparent Taskbar.
I enjoyed this discussion as I love sharp and vivid colors and images for photo and gaming . What glossy 4k 27” or 32” monitors do you recommend?
good to know people like you exist, how do you find time to play video games at your age. This is one of my biggest concerns that I might lose touch to gaming and maybe even lose interest as I get older.
Gordon, Gordon, Gordon…you simply need to get a CONTROL “cone of shadow,” which will prevent reflections. Disclaimer: Maxwell loves the cone.
I don't get the pixel density argument. I had a 4k 28" matte monitor and it was fine. If the DPI is much higher than that, you're not going to see the extra resolution. Contrast might be arguable, but personally I have zero need for HDR, and don't see a problem with SDR. Light hitting a matte display at worst results in contrast reduction. Light hitting gloss means you see everything. My worst PC display was a glossy one on a laptop I got. Every time I used it had to try to angle it to find a location that didn't reflect badly. I do have an OLED TV, and even then, yes, I'd love for it to be matte too. When it is on you don't see if it is glossy or not, but I do see the unwanted reflections. Space is not generous so rearranging the environment is not a good option.
I just canceled my preorder for the LG 27" GR95QE-B 240hz and i hope later this year LG is going to bring the same panel with a glossy finish.
I much prefer glossy monitors because it makes the colors look richer.
But that is due to reflections, not because they show more colors.
Depends on if you are in an area that you can control the lighting in the room. Brightness, location, etc.
I have an easier time seeing my glossy MacBook screen than my matte finish 4k monitor in broad daylight…
Got to admit it's prefer matt I'd prefer if I had a choice. But maybe not if it causes issues.
Pls suggest any glossy monitor moddle no.pls pls pls ..im tired but not found in market are online
glossy makes the text more visble epescilly matte diffuse light all over the place it looks pcoo 4k oled matte its blurry glossy is sharp and the refletion is less blurred and you wont notice
I prefer the ever so slightly matte coating (semi-gloss). It isn't as distracting as having full mirror reflections, nor does it look like you spilled vaseline all over the screen.
I don't know what type of displays people are using, but my Asus 43" matte monitor is pretty vibrant and crisp (excluding the horrendous motion smearing)
@@Ben-Rogue you won't know about the true difference in visual clarity unless you're comparing like for like (LG C2 vs desktop monitor counterpart). even then you would be hard pressed telling the difference and so it all comes down to your own tolerances for certain things.
don't trust any of these guys who say that there's a noticeable difference, they're regurgitating the same old bottom of the barrel narrative that happens to be making these giga corporations more money from additional sales. same as the electric car, hybrid or ICE debate. keep consuming our products sheep.
All your mobile devices you are using outside has a glossy screens, that's a really strong point👍 I would be very surprised if anyone wanted it to be matt by their own will. It's just stupid, because it will make a great picture of your precious smartphone obviously worse. The screen will be evenly lit (instead one light point) lowering overall contrast, colours and even hiding fine details. Definitely make sense in a specific situations and limited scenarios, but in everyday usage, i don't think so.
Yeah phones usually use glossy screens. And usually on a sunny day it's incredibly hard to read anything on them unless they have really high brightness. So probably not a great point.
@@3Dantnot at all, high end phone have gotten so freaking bright nowadays that it completely punches it's way through their glossy screens even in very sunny environments
@@talion7268 Yeah I dunno, I don't spend a thousand bucks on a phone so I guess I haven't seen the high end screens
I'm 100% in the glossy camp. I'm accustomed to matte, but since making the switch to 4k the blur that it adds is quite noticeable. After seeing 4k on a glossy screen it's a _massive_ difference in clarity. It's like adding a piece of wax paper over your phone. Place a white square on a black screen and you'll see the diffusion Connor is talking about. For true contrast clarity you need a gloss surface.
While I understand if you're spending all day in a brightly lit studio the reflection can be highly distracting but I grew up with CRT glass monitors so I've _never_ had my computer in a brightly lit room. Not to mention who's going to use a touch screen laptop with a plastic screen? Eww.
What about a glossy display with a matte finish attachable piece. Maybe for laptops and or desktop displays or phones and tablets for outdoor or bright rooms.
Then we could always have glossy, but with an optional matte.
Maybe this would come with terrible viewing problems, or flimsy frames or broken and or difficult to store contraptions, if it's meant to be detachable.
Though an option like this may be viable for those who require it, if your location doesn't involve direct sunlight, lamplight, firelight, room lights, then maybe this option is not applicable to your situation.
Saying this there are likely already products like this, probably for phones and tablets at least, but maybe not as easily for laptops and desktop displays.
glossy displays with anti glare/reflections would be a nice option
That is literally a matte display
@@profosist matte displays are too dim and not that bright compared to glossy displays that are very bright and color saturated is something that I look for in displays, basically samsung displays that have colors that pop and are color saturated, plus matte displays leaves oils on the displays when there are finger prints on the displays and it makes it harder to remove finger prints on matte displays when finger prints are easier to remove on glossy displays, I don't know if there is any spray that makes keeps the glossy display while removing the glare like there is a spray for cars that keeps the rims on a car very shiny but for monitor displays that keep the displays glossy and make them very shiny with anti glare spray, all 4k tvs don't use a matte display, lcd and led tvs are glossy and none of them use matte displays, using the same display technology from all 4k tvs and put them into monitors since 4k tvs are brighter than any glossy and matte displays
I'm just glad there are more mini led displays coming out on laptops and some gaming monitors, now hopefully there will be micro leds on laptops and monitors that get even brighter than mini led displays, since I'm waiting for micro led tvs like from samsung to make them available on all laptops and all monitors and even android phones with options for mini led displays and micro led displays since oled have burn in issues. It took a long time for laptop manufacturers to put mini led displays on the there laptops and msi was the first manufacturer to put a 1,000 nits 4k mini led display from the creator 17 laptop with the 2070 super gpu, 1,000 nits should be any industry standard. 250 and 450 nits are too measly and too dim displays and having the option for better and brighter displays should be also important since you are going to be looking at the screen the whole time. With 250 and 450 nits are too dim and took dark and you could barely see much of the screen.
im a bit irritated that there isnt more glossy monitors.
Glossy displays are pretty but not suitable for everyday use, or long view times.
So, glossy displays have their uses but for regular use, non-glossy panels are king.
Basically, glossy is good for TVs and bad for monitors.
Eh, no. I used many glossy displays as a kid/teenager, and they looked amazing. In fact I used a glossy display as a teenager for years and it was my favorite display, and that's the reason I want glossy displays to come back. But then we have clowns like you saying that they are not suitable for everyday use. Go back to your circus.
I'd argue glossy is bad for TVs too, as most TVs are used in well light environments, where glossy is it's worst. I think people just see shiny black and think it must mean great contrast. My ASUS 4k monitor is matte, and the contrast is as good as any shiny high end 4K TV I've seen (OLED excluded). Also, people arguing 4k OLED and matte won't work are just pull stuff out of their rear, as I've yet to see a matte 4k OLED
@@Ben-Rogue You have no clue how matte ruins the image quality, a glossy IPS Panel is even superior to a Matte OLED panel. Reason is blacks are still greyish even if the pixels are off just because of the coating. And the clarity is horrible. If you use a matte panel and you care for image quality you are fooling yourself. You are restricing yourself to horrible image quality just because you are worried by reflections which are not even the slightest problem if you have your PC in the same room as your TV.
@DarkSession6208"Ruins the image quality"? Please explain how (you can't). And explain why all high end monitors and reference monitors are more or less all matte.
I work in a lab with massive windows, even here I prefer my glossy screen, i have 2 at work. BUT at home were I can make my room as dark as cave why in hell i am going to pick a blurry screen?
Glossy
Glossy. Own both a LG42C2 and a PG48UQ which in essence are the same panel. I'm returning the PG48UQ because the glossy C2 despite some minor shortcomings is a much better looking OLED panel. I couldn't call myself a young person.
I had a LG42C2 and had to replace it with the Asus PG42 oled specifically for the matte. Using the glossy LG all day everyday for work ended up causing eye strain and gave me headaches. Since switching to the matte Asus monitor I have had much less headaches.
@@MrShad3s thats weird 🙄 our all TV+ smartphones are glossy finish
@@CaptainScorpio24 it is different when you are looking at a computer monitor trying to read tiny text all day long with different lighting. Tv is different you do not concentrate on the screen in the same way and you don't sit as close.
@@MrShad3s im sure phones have even smaller text and youre closer to it. Try again please
@@5ean5ean22 well you can defend it all I can tell you is I 1.) Had to strain my eyes to work. 2.) I got headaches from using the C2 as a monitor. So you can whine and complain telling me I'm wrong but I'm not. I know what I experienced and what has changed. Sure do glossy screens look good when there are no crazy reflections? Yes, but from a day to day coding and productivity experience it was horrible. From a gaming experience it was incredible. But guess what? The matte screen is equally a great experience for gaming and is an incredible productivity experience for me.
Matte, unless you are only doing content consumption or creation.
Gaming, Office work, coding, engineering works etc...., matte will feel better for your eyes.
Nope.....Matte make games look ugly
i was so hyped to buy the samsung neo g8 4k mini LED gaming monitor. so much so i drove down to my nearest pc world today to eye ball what they look like. i left so buzzing to buy one and now i am back to being confused as as far as i am aware its a full matt panel haha
it still too reflective for me
I have a glossy 500 nits 2k IPS screen 89/89/89/89 so I have the best view from everywhere I'm looking my laptop screen :) Reflections? nah with 500 nits at max bright doesn't bother me at all :) Long life to the Glossy team!
I gotta go with matte. I grew up on CRTs with terrible glare and it scarred me for life. The slight sacrifice in clarity is more than worth not having to have your computer in a cave. Plus matte mitigates eye and neck strain from prolonged usage.
2007 720p 60hz glossy panel looks 100% better than my 1440p 165hz LED matte monitor...
Nice video. Didn’t know he had a display channel.
Excellent debate. Very helpful info about high-end resolution (OLED/4K) are better in gloss, and white color more true with gloss.
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what an explanation!!
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If you're comfortable with and capable of controlling light in the space you use the display, glossy will simply be better for content consumption. But not everyone has that luxury. If you have light in the space, you're going to induce eye strain and have distracting mirror like glare with a glossy display, which kinda ruins it's benefits as opposed to a matte display.
I just wish my laptop screen was IPS instead of shitty TN and my LG ultrawide monitor was glossy instead of mate which destroys the contrast in an otherwise perfect panel.
No one actually sells glossy monitors tho
If you looked like Tom Selleck Jnr of course the Glossy screen for a Deep focus of the tash is paramount.
I have a matte monitor next to my glossy. windows and sub right behind me. The glossy looks better. People are insane.
Watching this on a TN panel...
why no subtitles?
Right now Valve announced OLED Deck and I am trying to do as much research on glossy Oleds as I can because matte is for the higher tier SD and mid tier has glossy. Seems like Oled does better with gloss for entertainment.
There is no discussion, glossy is for optimal image quality. Either you prefer optimal image quality or you are one of the weird people that sacrifice image quality because you are reflection phobic.
And yet, all high end monitors, as well as reference monitors, use matte. lol!
Glossy FTW! I've never understood why people like matte screens. To me they make EVERYTHING worse! Colours get washed out. Black levels get washed out making an OLED look like a cheap IPS. Everything looks dirty and grainy like sands been rubbed into the screen. Not to mention the whole point of matte screens, to cut down on reflections and make the screen more visible in direct light, doesn't actually work. Instead of having 10 square cm of the screen covered by a bright reflection with gloss screens, you now have this diffuse light covering the whole screen making the whole screen illegible. How's that better? It reminds me of that episode of MythBusters where Jamie stepped into a pitch-black room with a matte white shirt on and the diffused light off the shirt lit up the whole room. Would you rather 10% of your screen illegible or 100%? Yes, you're dispersing the light, so it's less intense in one area. But I'd rather one small area extremely reflective rather than the whole screen grainy washed out and diffuse. There's a reason why matte screens are only found on low end products...
Maybe just don't buy dirt cheap måtte displays then? The only benefit of glossy, is sharpness.
Glossy makes only Sense on O-LED TVs - Monitors. Matte makes sense only on non O-LED Monitors - TVs. Why You ASK? Go Look up what OLED is and go Look up what LCD or IPS or Nano LED or Mini LED is. :)
I also have a 32in 4k monitor matte. I could gaf about matte vs glossy. I bought the cheapest 32in 4k monitor that wasn't a TN panel for 349CAD
Do you really have a choice? It sucks that 99.9% of monitors on the market are matte.
Matte is the only correct answer. There's no point in having bright contrasty colours on a glossy display when half of it is lost to reflections.
I'd kill for a properly matte phone. I wish my Fold 4 was matte inside and out.
My monitor at home is a matte 34" curved ultrawide and the matte screen makes it wonderful.
You are coping, everyone who wants good image quality a) has lower brightness than default b) watches in a dark or semi dark environment. So reflections physically are not a issue. If you don't do both of those things you don't need a good monitor to begin with.
@@DarkSession6208 lol, yea everyone uses their computer and TV in an unlit room.
@@nickthaskaterEveryone who gives a shit about image quality. Saying matte is good is good on a Oled or any other monitor is like building a track tool with the best possible components and then using the worst tyres. It destroys the point of what you want to have.
@@DarkSession6208 ok. Enjoy sitting in the dark coping with your "perfect image quality."
Glossy monitors make the colors pop more but become quite reflective in a lit room. After having used both glossy and matte monitors I'd have to say I prefer using the latter as the colors will still pop if the panel is of good quality and I won't have that much of an issue with smearing on the glass or light sources/ the sun creating an issue. My Thinkpads have all been matte displays as my Dell laptops with glossy screens weren't hacking it outdoors. Smartphones I do like flat glass screens and tempered glass screen protectors but will admit the matte film screen protectors allow for better sunlight visibility at more angles.
@@ILikeWhatILike69 you can't read can you? Matte film screen protectors.
I am a glossy man myself i looked at the monitors side by side and it was no question just dont touch it