Great job as always by the 3 welsh stooges 👷🏽👷🏽👷🏽😁 Alex had his umbrella ☂️ hat on today but that was for the thunder storms 🌩️. He has a big n like yours Justin 😂. Seriously though another beautiful job by 3 skilled lads 🤙🏽🤙🏽🧱👍🏼
Always great videos Justin with great explanations of how your doing it, we work very similar, nice to see you also clean the slabs as you go, always nice to leave a job every day looking clean and tidy. Cracking work as always, take care bud, Lee (Murphy & Sons Landscaping)
Got to have fun in work ive got lads to do some mad stuff over the years .tree climbing, river crossing and forward rolls in a cow field. To name a few glad yoj liked it 🤣👍
Great informative video mate, I’m in the process of psyching myself up to lay my own patio, trawling TH-cam for tips and hints, this has given me a good few ideas to work on, cheers 👍🏻
Great job Justin, love how you explain about the levels and walk us through the job. Looks fab..what did we do before youtube! Down to the library to get the "knack" out!👏👍😎
What a brilliant video Justin! Those Mark 1 Jaybots can be brilliant when regularly maintained - I've previously recommended periodical 'Chelsea Buns' and Diet something or other seems to work the trick! So informative and great tips and techniques, thank you so much for taking so much time and trouble editing and uploading! Now service the faulty Bot before the next job!
Or dave chelsea buns i used to watch match of the day eat two by the time it was over id eaten Four it took a lot of will power to stop my very bad habit 🤣🤣🤣 thanks dave for all your comments i appreciate it mate and yea that bloody jay bot gave us hell 🤣🤣👍
Cracking job, a couple of questions - do you only have a screed layer (sand) if not bedding on mortar and the gravel edges, is that just gravel or does there need to be a french drain built into it? Cheers
Great video, thank you for that. I’m about to lay my own patio with porcelain tiles and was just wondering how much sharp sand and cement I would need for 37 square meters. Again thank you for your help. 🕺👍
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping used one on a job, not a high tip, matches the mini digger better than a wheelbarrow plus not many want to push a barrow all day :)
That Justin is getting so good you might have to start paying him soon, just as well the Jbot is a one time purchase and no wages (beside the odd treat).
Another great video Justin. It’s reassuring to know I use the same methods as yourself ! I may go for 3 or 4mm spacers next time. Looks sleeker. I normally use 5mm. I didn’t see a string line on this one, Maybe as it’s a smaller patio you can avoid the lipping even with spirit levels ! Look forward to your next one mate.
Hi Mark First time with a 3mm joint for us and it looks great .tip is make sure the porcelain is vitrified all same size as with a 3mm joint any discrepancy in the porcelain will be seen. I usually go for the level as i find any sagging in the line even slight throws everything out or is that just me mark ? Cheers mate 👍
Lovely video buddy always work to a 40mm to 50mm bed. 150mm type 1. Always want it bomb proof. Anything under 30mm bed like near 20mm end chancing bed coming of sub base. Fraser doing a tremendous job.
One of the best trades/DIY/construction vids on TH-cam, and I've watched 1,000's of hours of this sort of content. Brilliant, hilarious bunch of lads (biased as a fellow Welshman just 20 miles up the road in Tredegar), but absolutely masterclass in tradesmanship; experience, knowledge, skill, etc. And all explained wonderfully. Giving me all the confidence to make my own in a few weeks. Justin, a question if you don't mind, but how do you rate porcelain compared to sandstone? A friend of mine said sandstone is very hard to lay because of the rivens, but you can get calibrated which is smoother, but he would still go porcelain as it's easier to lay as a beginner and much cheaper than sandstone. Do you agree with any of this?
Thanks Marus really appreciate you saying that 👍 As for you question. Porcelain is the hardest to lay and requires a high skill set both laying and cutting it . The riven sandstone the one with the uneven surface you just lay it to all the highest parts on the level its very forgiving not like porcelain so easier to lay. Then you have honed sandstone totally flat like porcelain but still easier to lay and cut than porcelain. Porcelain in my opinion is the hardest one to install and same can be said about grouting it. Hope that helps you Marcus appreciate your comments 🏴🏴👍🙌👌
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping thanks for the reply buddy! Haha I was thinking the finish looks more luxurious in this vid at the end than plain old sandstone, even though a sandstone patio is beautiful to look at. I guess I’ll be sticking to sandstone then but my partner wants me to get flat sandstone so patio chairs aren’t rocking on the rivens 🤣 Thanks again mate 🏴
The small one brilliant battery is great . Thr bigger one great tool but for the bigger cuts stihl saw is best as battery dies but id recommend both brilliant addition to the tools light and just press a button and go 👍
One more question about setting levels, if use the strings for the levels with the fall required it’s the same as using the spirit level? Thanks you’re a good professional
I have taken my old slabs up and has left the old concrete base that is 100mm thick , I need a cement base of 50mm to put the new porcelain tiles on to get the correct hight , can I put the cement base on the concrete ? If that is OK ? and would it be best to put a cement slurry on the concrete first and then the 50mm bed then the tile ? Thanks
As long as the concrete has no cracks in it and its a good solid crack free area then yes .slurry or sbr the concrete then add mortar as usual. Be careful not to go to high to dpc though just a check for u . Good luck. Justin
Cracking job there Justin 👍 really like the grout color compliments the tiles well. What model rubi saw do you have and do you recommend it? I'm considering purchasing one soon as up to this point I'm using 115mm grinder for everything, but want to make those long 900mm cuts easier 😅
Thanks appreciate it . Rubi dx 250 plus cuts up to 1200mm i think. Rubi have replaced it with a new saw updated now.on the plus side no dust perfectly straight lines no bending. Minus the legs on this saw aint great although rubi have now updated that and its a big bit of kit quite heavy to move around. Id definitely buy there new version and i have to say rubi have an excellent site support team for repair and maintenance it truly is brilliant. So overall its been a great bit of kit for us and the new one is much improved so id look at that one .if you want a factory cut on long porcelain its great to have it in the tool box . Hope that helps you . If your close to cardiff your welcome to come out and give it a try out 👍🙌
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping thanks for the response, is the newer model you are talking about the dcx 250 xpert? Or the Dc 250 python? And thanks I'd love to take you up on the offer but I live in Jersey Channel Islands so it's a bit far to travel 😆
Brill tutorial, if using Indian sandstone, any top tips of balancing in impact of riven ends? Sometime you have to make comprises when you level up the lips on part of the stones and then knowing the riven is a little high in places. Also did you leave the wooden stakes in the sub base?
Am I wrong hearing you shouldn't do stretcher bond or brickbond half a slab they should stagger a third more than over a third of the tile length example 900mm long tile the joint should be no more than 300mm.
Mark i can't give that up sorry mate if you want to email me or ring me for a chat id be happy for that. What i can tell you is it aint enough. The market is there for porcelain but it takes a lot of time to install especially all them cuts and breakages. Each one i do i think i haven't charged enough but here in wales there is a ceiling on price .ive spoken to others that feel the same its expensive but i feel people are unknowingly having a bit of a bargain with it really not sure what others think in other areas of the uk be interested to know actually mark 👍
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping totally understand mate, that’s the reason I asked. I bought a rubi dcx 1250, rubi core cutters and ecd blades that don’t last that long , all to make the job less stressful. I don’t normally make much on porcelain patios and here in Kent we have a lot of clay so I normally hire a digger so you have to charge around £200;a square metre at least and hope for no additional costs. Would love to chat anytime mate.
Grout is actually better suited to porcelain better colour and looks better in the joint . Customers choice but flowpoint is cheaper so most choose that 👍
Thanks for the helpful information 👍🏼 👍🏼
the perfect balance of information and funny 🤣
Your welcome and thanks 🤣👍
The only vid anybody doing a patio needs to watch 👍👌
Was bloody hot doing it not used to the heat here .cheers Andy 👍
Seems you have a good team, working well together but with laughter. Good combo.
Yea thanks got to have a laugh in work 👍
Thank you.
Nice one Bob
Needed to add a further comment - Frazer is quite an artist at cutting those porcelain slabs isn't he! Very impressed with his skill.
Thanks he will be happy you said that .He was thrown in the deep end when brad left and he done very well thanks dave 👍
Mint job again lads 👍👍👍👍👍
@@craigmartin7504
Thanks craig 👍
Great job as always by the 3 welsh stooges 👷🏽👷🏽👷🏽😁 Alex had his umbrella ☂️ hat on today but that was for the thunder storms 🌩️. He has a big n like yours Justin 😂.
Seriously though another beautiful job by 3 skilled lads 🤙🏽🤙🏽🧱👍🏼
Thanks steve appreciate it mate
Yea the hats are useful mate and a bit of fun aswell 🤣🤣👍🧱👌
Stunning work again lads. You make it look so easy.
Thanks Tony mate 👍
Great sense of humour boys! and job looks cracking!
Thanks very much 😀 👍
Brilliant video with loads of detail and tips, loved the humour with the Jaybot 😂keep up the good work and keep the videos coming 🤖👾👍
Thanks mate 👍
Great video, i was looking for proper how to do patio video ,. Thanks
Hi Justin.
Excellent video and again great job !!!
Looking forward to see more like this. Thanks 😊
Thanks appreciate it 🙌👍🧱
Always great videos Justin with great explanations of how your doing it, we work very similar, nice to see you also clean the slabs as you go, always nice to leave a job every day looking clean and tidy. Cracking work as always, take care bud,
Lee (Murphy & Sons Landscaping)
Really helpful, thank you. Roughly how long should a job that size take, would be nice to get an idea before I start speaking to contractors.
@@rad1sh480 think it took us about 10 days ish dig out and the installation 👍
Great video 😂
Shaun appreciate it thanks 👍
What a laugh this one mate 👏 🤣
Got to have fun in work ive got lads to do some mad stuff over the years .tree climbing, river crossing and forward rolls in a cow field. To name a few glad yoj liked it 🤣👍
Great informative video mate, I’m in the process of psyching myself up to lay my own patio, trawling TH-cam for tips and hints, this has given me a good few ideas to work on, cheers 👍🏻
Glad its helped 👍
Great job Justin, love how you explain about the levels and walk us through the job. Looks fab..what did we do before youtube! Down to the library to get the "knack" out!👏👍😎
Thanks chris was for a diy person really. On hols at mo having some relaxing family time mate 👌 👍
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping Enjoy bro, hopefully in the sun aye😎
This is great, thanks for taking the time to go through this 👍
No problem 👍
Looks very nice Justin and co. Good tutorial if you were thinking DIY. 👍👌😁
Thanks doug yea was set up for a diy person 👍🙌
I love your videos, very fun.
Thanks Erik got to have a laugh haven't you .ate 👍👊
Good work again. Nice to see the curve method
Thanks daddy 🤣👍
Top of the pops cracking job boys
Thanks Danny 😎👍🙌
@2:20 🤣 I love this video, so funny!
Glad you enjoyed it good to have a bit of fun 😀 👍
What a brilliant video Justin! Those Mark 1 Jaybots can be brilliant when regularly maintained - I've previously recommended periodical 'Chelsea Buns' and Diet something or other seems to work the trick! So informative and great tips and techniques, thank you so much for taking so much time and trouble editing and uploading! Now service the faulty Bot before the next job!
Or dave chelsea buns i used to watch match of the day eat two by the time it was over id eaten Four it took a lot of will power to stop my very bad habit 🤣🤣🤣 thanks dave for all your comments i appreciate it mate and yea that bloody jay bot gave us hell 🤣🤣👍
Cracking job, a couple of questions - do you only have a screed layer (sand) if not bedding on mortar and the gravel edges, is that just gravel or does there need to be a french drain built into it? Cheers
Hi
Its not sand its mot type 1 compacted then tiles are layed on a mortar bed.
Gravel edge's are just aesthetics 👍
😂😂wounded what you was on about robot 🤣🤣👍👍
🤣🙌👌🧱
Great video, thank you for that. I’m about to lay my own patio with porcelain tiles and was just wondering how much sharp sand and cement I would need for 37 square meters.
Again thank you for your help. 🕺👍
Craig on this job we used between 2 or 3 tonnes of sand and about 15 bags of cement.
Excellent video
Thanks Rob mate 👍
Before you lay the slab, you cut an S into the mortar with a trowel I’ve been told to leave it flat so that Ants do not find their way underneath
Its right advice to be honest but i just like to slightly furrow the motor so i can hit the tile down easier.once if hit it down the furrow is gone .👍
Everything is well explained thanks, I'm wondering what make of porcelain blade you would recommend using with a 300mm stihl saw?
Hi Paul
I'd use elite stone tools blades but as they are thin u must use water to cut the paving or the blade will work mate 👍
@brickrightbuildinglandscaping thanks for taking the time to reply, much appreciated.
A motorised wheelbarrow is a Great job. Used one on a job with a 3/4 tonne digger.
Yea never used one but defo will at some point.
Cherrs 👍🙌
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping hire one to try you'll never go back, a high tip one :)
@rockandmeatroll
I have made enquiries on one .Defo use one at some point thanks for the tip 👍 👌
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping used one on a job, not a high tip, matches the mini digger better than a wheelbarrow plus not many want to push a barrow all day :)
@@rockandmeatroll very true 👍
Like the content save the wheel carry the barrow😂
Cheers andy 👍
Great video & cutting skills. What suction pad s do you use, i noticed the grabbo one but what was the smaller on please?
@jeffreyjones2967
Bull e grip I think it was good bit of kit 👌
That Justin is getting so good you might have to start paying him soon, just as well the Jbot is a one time purchase and no wages (beside the odd treat).
🤣🤣🤣👍🙌
Another great video Justin. It’s reassuring to know I use the same methods as yourself ! I may go for 3 or 4mm spacers next time. Looks sleeker. I normally use 5mm. I didn’t see a string line on this one, Maybe as it’s a smaller patio you can avoid the lipping even with spirit levels ! Look forward to your next one mate.
Hi Mark
First time with a 3mm joint for us and it looks great .tip is make sure the porcelain is vitrified all same size as with a 3mm joint any discrepancy in the porcelain will be seen.
I usually go for the level as i find any sagging in the line even slight throws everything out or is that just me mark ?
Cheers mate 👍
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping thanks mate, that makes sense with the line sagging:. The job looked absolute quality as usual
@markbriers4302
Thanks mark appreciate that was hard in all that heat mate 🔥🔥👌
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping yes mate been cooking all week myself on a 100 sq M install ! Really appreciate your videos mate.
Lovely video buddy always work to a 40mm to 50mm bed. 150mm type 1. Always want it bomb proof.
Anything under 30mm bed like near 20mm end chancing bed coming of sub base. Fraser doing a tremendous job.
That table system looks good buddy where get that about buddy.
Think i got it from screw fix lee was about £70 - £80 i think its all foldable done us well .👍🙌
Thanks lee .
Problem is bomb proof is good but people dont want to pay for it here mate .Yea fra is doing well to be fair 👍
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping
Yeah so true get it all over. Don’t ya. Cool will have a look. Look’s handy bit of kit.
@@lmilne4859 👍🙌👌😎
One of the best trades/DIY/construction vids on TH-cam, and I've watched 1,000's of hours of this sort of content.
Brilliant, hilarious bunch of lads (biased as a fellow Welshman just 20 miles up the road in Tredegar), but absolutely masterclass in tradesmanship; experience, knowledge, skill, etc. And all explained wonderfully. Giving me all the confidence to make my own in a few weeks.
Justin, a question if you don't mind, but how do you rate porcelain compared to sandstone? A friend of mine said sandstone is very hard to lay because of the rivens, but you can get calibrated which is smoother, but he would still go porcelain as it's easier to lay as a beginner and much cheaper than sandstone. Do you agree with any of this?
Thanks Marus really appreciate you saying that 👍
As for you question.
Porcelain is the hardest to lay and requires a high skill set both laying and cutting it .
The riven sandstone the one with the uneven surface you just lay it to all the highest parts on the level its very forgiving not like porcelain so easier to lay.
Then you have honed sandstone totally flat like porcelain but still easier to lay and cut than porcelain.
Porcelain in my opinion is the hardest one to install and same can be said about grouting it.
Hope that helps you Marcus appreciate your comments 🏴🏴👍🙌👌
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping thanks for the reply buddy!
Haha I was thinking the finish looks more luxurious in this vid at the end than plain old sandstone, even though a sandstone patio is beautiful to look at.
I guess I’ll be sticking to sandstone then but my partner wants me to get flat sandstone so patio chairs aren’t rocking on the rivens 🤣
Thanks again mate 🏴
@@MarcusT86
Welcome Marcus 👍
Great work Justin
How do you find the Dewalt cutter and grinder think of getting them both. How the battery life ?
The small one brilliant battery is great .
Thr bigger one great tool but for the bigger cuts stihl saw is best as battery dies but id recommend both brilliant addition to the tools light and just press a button and go 👍
I see they do a 15amp battery now! Thanks Justin
@@neilsmart78
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One more question about setting levels, if use the strings for the levels with the fall required it’s the same as using the spirit level? Thanks you’re a good professional
The string lines give you a start point and finishing point so you can check all works before you start paving 👍appreciate the comment ricardo
I have taken my old slabs up and has left the old concrete base that is 100mm thick , I need a cement base of 50mm to put the new porcelain tiles on to get the correct hight , can I put the cement base on the concrete ? If that is OK ? and would it be best to put a cement slurry on the concrete first and then the 50mm bed then the tile ? Thanks
As long as the concrete has no cracks in it and its a good solid crack free area then yes .slurry or sbr the concrete then add mortar as usual.
Be careful not to go to high to dpc though just a check for u .
Good luck.
Justin
Cracking job there Justin 👍 really like the grout color compliments the tiles well.
What model rubi saw do you have and do you recommend it?
I'm considering purchasing one soon as up to this point I'm using 115mm grinder for everything, but want to make those long 900mm cuts easier 😅
Thanks appreciate it .
Rubi dx 250 plus cuts up to 1200mm i think.
Rubi have replaced it with a new saw updated now.on the plus side no dust perfectly straight lines no bending. Minus the legs on this saw aint great although rubi have now updated that and its a big bit of kit quite heavy to move around.
Id definitely buy there new version and i have to say rubi have an excellent site support team for repair and maintenance it truly is brilliant.
So overall its been a great bit of kit for us and the new one is much improved so id look at that one .if you want a factory cut on long porcelain its great to have it in the tool box .
Hope that helps you .
If your close to cardiff your welcome to come out and give it a try out 👍🙌
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping thanks for the response, is the newer model you are talking about the dcx 250 xpert? Or the Dc 250 python? And thanks I'd love to take you up on the offer but I live in Jersey Channel Islands so it's a bit far to travel 😆
that was me asking about the curve 🙋♂😄 where do you get those manhole covers from justin? great video as always
Sorry Jack im useless at names i get everyone's name mixed up hope it helped.
The manholes are from keyline builders merchants 👍
Cheers jack
Cracking job as always lads! Would you say you are using a whole mix for one slab that size?
Thanks very mucb .
Its not far off a full mic 👍
So could I do 4-1 or 5-1 twice in a mixer? So 8-2 or 10-2 to make a bigger mix?
@@user-iz3zc8qx9w yes fill the mixer that way 👍
Brill tutorial, if using Indian sandstone, any top tips of balancing in impact of riven ends? Sometime you have to make comprises when you level up the lips on part of the stones and then knowing the riven is a little high in places. Also did you leave the wooden stakes in the sub base?
I always lay riven work to the highest point. So level to the highest point of the slab .
👌🙌👍
How do you spray paint the layout, are you measuring it or using a slab as a template?
Just measure it out with a rape measure 👍
Got cutter envy Justin. Dewalt 9 inch battery? Is it man enough?
For the right jobs yes definitely but need a few batteries. On a bigger cut like cut a long line of concrete still saw is the choice 👌
I just go to the line on the level, water runs off fine.
Yep totally agree Darren mate 👍
Nice job , how do you clean the patio ?
I just use washing up liquid
Am I wrong hearing you shouldn't do stretcher bond or brickbond half a slab they should stagger a third more than over a third of the tile length example 900mm long tile the joint should be no more than 300mm.
Officially you are spot on but people ask me for it and we get it to work so all is good 👍
Can you get right-handed robots? 🤔
😂😂😂 think so but this one was malfunctioning 😂👍🍻
Out of interest Justin, what is the approx amount you charge per sq M for porcelain down in wales. Totally understand if you’d rather not say !
Mark i can't give that up sorry mate if you want to email me or ring me for a chat id be happy for that.
What i can tell you is it aint enough. The market is there for porcelain but it takes a lot of time to install especially all them cuts and breakages. Each one i do i think i haven't charged enough but here in wales there is a ceiling on price .ive spoken to others that feel the same its expensive but i feel people are unknowingly having a bit of a bargain with it really not sure what others think in other areas of the uk be interested to know actually mark 👍
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping totally understand mate, that’s the reason I asked. I bought a rubi dcx 1250, rubi core cutters and ecd blades that don’t last that long , all to make the job less stressful. I don’t normally make much on porcelain patios and here in Kent we have a lot of clay so I normally hire a digger so you have to charge around £200;a square metre at least and hope for no additional costs. Would love to chat anytime mate.
How do you ever get work done with Jay working for you 😂
Ive absolutely no idea 🤣🙌👍
He’s a good lad man 😅
@liamtaylor5122
Good lad jay fairplay to him still learning the ropes that will come with more experience 👍
Why pointing and not flowpoint?
Grout is actually better suited to porcelain better colour and looks better in the joint .
Customers choice but flowpoint is cheaper so most choose that 👍
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping Thanks - good point well made :)
All the gear no idea 😳
Yep 👍 😉