Atheist 'Saved' By Praying Away Extreme Atheism?!
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- This young lady was apparently prayed for, when she was an 'extreme atheist'. Now she says she's a believer... so what changed her mind? and what can be said about her claims?
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Title - Atheist 'Saved' By Praying Away Extreme Atheism
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I just saved 15% of my soul by switching to Satanism
sounds like a great deal
😂😅😂❤️
well, if it's real, better be were the parties are and everyone doesn't have to bow down to the dicktator from upstairs. Am I right?
Hail Satin! 😈 🤘👹
Satan is willing to actually buy or trade for one's soul, where as Yahweh expects one to give their soul to him.
In regards to the afterlife...I don't know which is worse
being tortured in Hell for all eternity
or
having to do nothing but grovel and worship god for all eternity.
* I don't believe in any of it, but the lore is downright silly and horrifying.
“I was an extreme atheist…”
It’s not nice to lie.
if that's only what an "extreme" atheist is...I wonder what rank I am.
@@YetiUprising she was a newbie atheist, you are at least 666 levels higher. Elon Musk is level 420
yeah and she calls herself a good christian
@@YetiUprising ultimate atheist😂
Lying is the biggest weapon christians have.
God: "cure this woman's chron's"
Angel: "What about all those children in the oncology department?"
God: "fuck 'em, stomach cramps are my jam"
not going to lay that made me laugh out loud that's gold
This reminds me of Zach star himself and his skits involving God
Also God “look that football player is thanking me for helping him score a touchdown, I’m so awesome, I can intervene in a sport to help believers win”
Angel- “but god , both teams prayed for help”
God- “oh hmmm , but I have a plan or something”
Angel- “god a rape victim is pleading for help”
God “not now, Tim Tebow is asking for help throwing the winning touchdown”
@@Liverpoolfc9karimGod works in delirious ways 😊
She failed so hard it's tragic.
But I'll wager she got lots of the attention she was seeking.
Yup
Just see the comments on her original vid.🤦🏽♂️
@@thealmightyone6461 the almost exclusively positive, pro-God comments.
As if all the inquisitive, doubtful comments have been removed.
@@garyconyers-davies5781 proof of God is no bad comments 🤣🤣
Seriously though I've got to wonder how much of her story (if any) is true.
@@Forold now all comments on the original video have been turned off. 🤣
@@garyconyers-davies5781 Clearly this is a conspiracy involving the devil. No other logical explanation 🤣
Personal story.
Had cancer
Had chemo
Developed ulcers on all my mucus membranes.
From my nose to my butthole
Lost about 20lb of fat
Wanted to be unalive
Finished chemo
Regained a little weight
Lost all my hair
Doing better now
All without skydaddy
5th generation atheist
Wow! 5th gen?! Your family mightve been some of the first socially out atheists. (I'm sure atheism has existed in different ways through time, but in the context of the Christianity from the past few hundred years to now in the west). My dad was the 1st atheist in our family so I'm only 2nd gen, but your family must have some FASCINATING stories
A fighter, a survivor and a realist? You ma'am, are a legend, deserving of respect. Keep the sunny side up and may your health go from strength to strength. 👍
@Emmanuel Araujo
Lol sorry for your loss.
Yes
I've lost a sister and my mom to cancer. I know how if feels when there's nothing left to do but wait.
You'd try anything.
That's what those ppl prey on.
@@miuleauna4967 ❤️
My grandmother used to tell me about her grandmother who became an atheist because she was an abolishenist. She said, any book or god that allows slavery is false.
5th generation atheist literally sounds like atheism rules your life.
So, let me get this straight...
You had a severe chronic disease that you were receiving treatment for.
Then someone prayed and God saved you.
And now you're receiving treatment for your severe chronic disease.
Okaaaay.
The last few minutes of her testimony actually made me a little sad. She's just a scared person trying to find some comfort in a cruel world that has dealt her a bum hand.
Or, from her choice of words, she has no clue whatsoever about atheism and is just lying.
@@bladerunner3314 Surprising from a group of people whose holy text tells them that lying is a sin (I know why, but it’s for the bit)
@@historiansayori2089 Lying for cheezus always was acceptable, otherwise no televangelist ever would've become rich.
She's young, six months from now she'll be singing a different song! =)
give over, she's an obvious grifter who needs more acting lessons. I'm sure her tax exempt church will cough up.
I've got Crohn's disease and went untreated for a few months and yes it was painful.
At some point it got so bad that I decided to have myself checked and they diagnosed me with Crohn and started receiving treatment immediately and got better to the point where it is an inconvenience but no pain at all anymore.
I was an atheist before I got Crohn, I am an atheist with Crohn and if I am lucky and it goes in remission I will still be an atheist.
Crohn's can go into remission. if it can that's pretty cool I didn't know that
@@borttorbbq2556 Yes, there is a possibility of remission.
In one of the studies there was a patient with up to 23 years of remission.
And remission and relapse is a common cycle with a lot of patients as well.
@@MrKhushrenada interesting. I know a little bit about it from a friend of mine who had it but my normal you don't ask people about their medical issues so this is interesting
Go Science, right?
@@soffici1 Yes, because without it I would mostly likely be dead or bedridden. ✌
Every theist that starts with the line, I used to be an atheist, always then proceeds to explain atheism with a definition that isn’t correct. I think the vast majority are lying or think atheism is something it’s not. Thank you god for helping me with the disease you gave me.
They confuse not going to church for a long time and not being “saved”, whatever that is, with atheism.
I have Epilepsy and after saying that god, like cancer, clearly gave me the disorder, I'm often questioned as to how a loving and caring god could give you something in which he never discovered? So I make the return with why the illnesses exist in the first place? If my defense wasn't the best, or strong enough, do correct me. I don't mind.
Why, atheists are those people who don't even say "bless you"! IMAGINE the terror, the selfishness!
@@Gabrieliuka nope, I say gesundheit! It means good health! ;)
@@Emiliapocalypse i normally say get away from me i don't want a cold/flu.
It must really piss off doctors that after treating a patient for a week the only person that gets thanks is god.
It would probably piss off the Athiest doctors. But the Christian doctors would be delusional enough to say it was Jesus who healed her not them. Religon it seems to pickle your thought process.
There are doctors that claim god did all the work in them healing a patient. Has nothing to do with the years of studying, training and honing their skills as healthcare professionals.
Yes, if they thank god for fixing them, surely they should thank god for giving it to them.
read Romans ch 8 vs 22 god curst all of creation. If there is a god? It's a dick!
😆 So true. Maybe these extreme doctors should have been converted to extreme priests.
That's why they should go to their preachers, priest, ministers, etc for their medical help. Then they can see how that goes when they get told they are going to die for not seeking medical help from a doctor instead of their sky daddy. Christians should also think that maybe if they have cancer that their God is calling them home since nothing happens without their God's approval.
I used to be an extreme Christian like, really born again, street witnessing, “purity” promises, evangelical Christian college degree, master’s degree in theology. And then, after like 20 years, I realized gods don’t answer prayers because, like, they don’t exist. And now I’m an atheist. Not like, extreme. Just a regular atheist.
I'd say, there are no extreme atheists, or militant ones.
The hardest would love to abolish religion all together, but other than believers aren't willing to kill for this.
@@bladerunner3314 Honestly, I think that's because atheists haven't been tested the way the religious have. AFAIK there has never been a majority atheist country with atheist leaders promoting exclusively secular ideas. Once that happens we will see how we handle actual power.
@@BlizzardofOze If you know believers, you know they will tell you of three atheist regimes that went to shits because ... they're not educated.
But yeah, I was thinking more in the terrorist mind set, that can be seen in the abrahamic religions.
You are my friend for life, welcome to the real world 🌎, and good for you for finally abandoning your delusional religious lifestyle 👏, which is just ancient superstitious nonsense. 😎👍⚛
@@BlizzardofOze There are many countries that are majority atheists. Many are Scandinavian countries where the happiness index is very high.
One of the more weird things about this is, how she switched in such a short time from being an "EXTREME ATHEIST" to being an "EXTREME CHRISTIAN".
Her rhetoric sounds as if she is a Christian for many years.
I heard so many of those unbelievable, overplayed "i was atheist, now i christian" anecdotes, i can't take them serious anymore.
Hard for me to know how much of her story to trust. I'm willing to allow she was probably extreme something.
I share your skepticism on "I used to be an atheist stories".
For an "extreme atheist", I notice she didn't speak much on why she considered herself an atheist.
It seems from this small glimpse of her, that she had an experience that made her feel better. Powerful emotional experiences seem to top the list for why people convert to Christianity.
Taking a nice woman praying for her, and turning her into an angel, seems odd and unneeded. Is the Christian God not acting through its believers anymore? I guess I can share skepticism that intercessory prayer works, but I had the impression that she was supposed to believe in that now.
I'm betting she becomes an extreme whatever catches her fancy. She is desperate to fit in and will embrace anything that makes her feel like she is part of something.
dont think I have heard 1 of these stories "atheist to christian" like this I actually believe yet, they are so clearly BS and used as nothing more than propaganda.
Usually the don’t have a clue what atheism means, so they think it means not being “saved” and not going to church for a long time.
As I am. Those people were as atheists first as I was a ballerina (I'm a 50yo+ overweight guy to get the joke). At least, they were non-practicing Christians.
So glad you're covering this! That girl's video popped up in my recommended tab for some reason, and I was APPALLED at the way she began her video, trying to make it seem like atheists are just egotistical jerks, and then throwing vegans and LGBT individuals under the bus too?! I had to speak my mind, and so commented on her video, explaining how insulting her comments were. I explained that even as a non-LGBT, meat-eater, and theist myself (a pagan, but I didn't mention that on her video), her comments were insulting nonetheless, as some of my best friends are atheist and I have a sister and other family members who are vegan, all of them wonderful people. I wouldn't be surprised if she just made the whole thing up about being a pan-sexual atheist vegan, just so she could get more clicks on her video.
Great job!! I had the same reaction.
She contradicts herself so convinced she is lying for clout. Tick tock is worse at that sort of bs it seems at the moment.
So many wanting to destroy property as a trend, have fake undiagnosed mental health issues, promote bogus cure alls, and so on including bs like she says in this video to reject health care needed.
I also saw the video a while ago and was disgusted by her views. There was just so much to unpack. I read through quite a lot of the comments and she had very clearly gone through and was deleting many comments which were challenging her arguments and asking clarifying questions on her story
I wanna know where this video is...can someone give me the link so I can watch it for myself
She deleted the video
I was once an extreme atheist but I’m only an atheist now. Extremely not accepting claims was just too exhausting. Now I just casually reject bullshit.
😂
Best comment. 😂🤘
Fair enough.
Me too i got a sore throat from screaming nooooo at people
A guilt ridden person with impulse control issues wants someone to take them seriously.
So she converted for nothing, literally.
She's not healed.
She's being a drama queen for Jesus.
🙄
Yeah I had the same thought. I felt unempathetic at first but I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that.
@@blueboi5140
I also notice that her atheism consisted of mocking Christians.
As if...🙄
naa for money. The rightwing grift is big money now.
No. You are wrong she refers to Pascale's wagerer in a round about way. When her life socks, the promise of a perfect afterlife can sound pretty smexy,! Me I'm just hopping to eat a perfect tangerine before I die
Narcissistic personality
"I'm still fucked up and could die, but someone prayed for me so now I'm an Christian." Yep, that checks out.
I have Crones. She's accurate about the pain. Fatalities related to Crones are usually perforated bowels that aren't seen quickly enough because we're so used to hurting. It is life long an needs a biologic-type medication to control. The idea that it can be prayed away is insulting. Deeply.
She sounds like she watched "God's Not Dead" a few too many times. Her idea's of atheism are cartoonish. AND SHE WASN'T HEALED ANYWAY!!!!!
Good point, she really sounds like she has been watching GND 24/7 until she memorized all the disingenuous descriptions of atheists.
I just saw a scared young woman who is fighting a horrible disease and holding on to whatever will give her hope. Logic tends to fly out the window when fear for one's life sets in.
I was an atheist all my life.
2013 I was diagnosed with MS, I have a mild progression and hopefully it will stay this way due to medication and not some imaginary friend in the sky.
But not one second it crossed my mind to ditch everything I know about how reality works and why gawds don't, for a comforting lie.
In this case though, the story just doesn't add up. This girl has clearly always been Christian and is trying to use the stereotypical 'used to be Atheist until I was saved' story to try and convert people
@@SlyTribal That's plain as day, if not for the end.
I just went to her video and asked her the simple question WHAT made her an atehist in the first place.
I expect no or silly replies.
@@bladerunner3314 I hope your medication works well for u and u live a long life. I have a friend of mine who has MS and the medication hasn't slowed it down for her. She also has cancer so that doesn't help.
@@bladerunner3314 You too huh
My grandmother told us she saw angels at the end of her bed when she was in hospital once… because she was high on morphine and pain. Severe pain is probably more than enough to cause hallucinations and this girl never bothered to tell us what medications they had her on.
*I've been on OXYCODONE for several weeks ( for my back pain ) and you won't believe ALL the things I saw, and heard !!!* But sadly ..... never saw any god !
I DID see an flying cow tho ! Maybe that was an god ? Should I start praying to that flying cow ? LMAO !
@@gertjanvandermeij4265 I feel left out. I was on Oxys after a surgery. I never saw anything. Maybe Bessy the holy bovine didn't think I was ready to become a cowtheist.
As someone with Panulcerative Colitis, I find this testimony to be borderline offensive even if only by just being so thankless of the medical attention she has received.
150 or so years ago, even prayer was a really quick way to meet God with this disease.
“I wouldn't even say bless you when someone sneezes”
Watch out! We have a badass!
Sounds like she was just a freaking prick. Nothing more, nothing less.
Also, imagine saying you where soo self-centered while also RIGHT AFTER THAT claiming that an all powerful being that created the universe gave a frick specifically about her to make her feel better... for a short time... cuz she is still sick... holy hell.
I'm such an extreme atheist that whenever someone sneezes, I say f*** you!
lol
@@AquaPeet 😂😂
I use "gesundheit" to avoid religiously loaded language.
@@SilverMKI me too. But I'm also german sooo that helps with that^^
Yeah, no. Every story of conversion that starts with "I used to be an atheist..." pings my BS detector. It pings even harder if it includes "Extreme atheist" or "Inner circle atheist".
“I was a High Priestess in the Atheist Church”
don't forget the car thing.
That "inner circle" atheist might as well be flashing "I'm lying" in neon lights over their head.
Same here but I am willing to give her that as some other have said already she was still discovering her self jumping from group to group by the sound of it and not really having a firm ideology of the world
I know a lot of young vegan types who feel like they are doing important activism and if they contracted religion they would probably describe themselves as being “inner circle” or something like it.
Almost a year ago had a pain in my chest. Was persuaded by workmates to ring health helpline. When the ambulance arrived it was confirmed I had suffered a heart attack.
Was taken to hospital and a stent was placed in the damaged artery.
Last January had a triple by pass and now on the road the better health.
Loads of support from friends and family over the last year and no one came and prayed over me.
I can only thank the legendary nurses doctors and surgeons of the NHS who work tirelessly every day of the year to help us.
These are the true gods and angels. ❤
"I was talking to a Buddhist, so I got some Buddhist tattoos." Sounds like a real intellectual here, someone who puts a lot of thought and consideration into life decisions. 🙄
Schrodinger's tattoos - if you say you have tattoos but there's no visible evidence on your body of any ink, are you tattooed at all? (see also: Schrodinger's pansexual who looks barely old enough to be out of school, and Schrodinger's vegan who supports PETA)
As an ICU nurse, this story just saddens me. This is a scared young person, one who has been forced to consider her own mortality and instead of embracing death as a necessary and important aspect of life, she shied away from it with a God story. I get it. I've watched hundreds of people die in my career, some younger than her, and the very vast majority of people haven't come to grips with the fact that they will die at all. It's an extremely difficult and scary thing to accept and watching this just makes me sad. Crohn's is a terrible disease and I hope she finds relief from the procedures she's undergoing.
death is a scarey thing to deal with, but when you finally accept the fact that you could just keel over any time soon and especially after the Dr. tells you youre on the short list ( I was told I had 8-14 months... this is the general time the Drs see the avg person live to for this type I have) welll its been 35 months of being leashed to an oxy hose, feeling sick all of the time, not being able to do what you had been doing, having no strength or stanima hell just drying off with a towel after a shower is physically exhausting its like a ran a mile... life becomes difficult, the mind says one thing and the body sez the opposite
There is nothing "saddening" about it. Both belief and disbelief are ultimately meaningless, since an idea inside one's mind has usually zero influence on real life.
If a passive belief makes you feel better, that's an utilitarian gain.
I just wish she had picked a less bigoted ideology.
I could imagine how difficult of a job that must be.
I got fifty bucks that says she never had Crohn, and that she was already a believer in her imaginary SkyMonkey.
@@yoshisaidit7250 I'll call that bet and raise it a colostomy bag and two bowel resections. That thing on her side was damn real.
How impressive, an angel healed her but didn't cure her? Truly a miracle. How come the god christians put forward keeps getting weaker?
Lol I know right?
God of the gaps moment? Would this qualify?
He'll be appearing on toast next!
The story fell apart the moment she said that she exclaimed that she was an extreme atheist as though possessed by a demon or something. Any atheist with an ounce of sense would respectfully decline and, if still pressured, only allow it out of a mixed desire to be left alone and to be decent to the other person.
Fact
I'm always struck by how literally thankless these people are for their medical care.
As an RN for >40 years, I have seen people make remarkable, unexpceted and sudden recoveries. It happens. A single, post hoc remission after some christian prayer is no more 'proof' of anything than a recovery after a Navajo healer comes in, chants, and fills the room with sage smoke -- which also happens in my neck of the woods.
Id put more faith in the sage smoke than God though. At least that is real, tangible, quantifyable, and observable.
Just painted my dining room Sage. Looks like i will be fine then!
@@greatcircle77 you need to burn the room for full cleansing effects.
A telling rebuttal. Many thanks.
I just smoked some Divining Sage.
After being an extreme atheist (whatever that means) and a terrible person, someone prayed over her, and now she is 'saved', and has dived deeply into Christianity.
She is apparently saved, even though she is still having medical treatments, only now she is asking people to pray for her beforehand.
Colour me unconvinced.
unPINKvinced coming up!
God gives her Crohn's disease.
God offers pain relief from his abuse once she recognises and praises him.
The ultimate form of Stockholm syndrome right there. Frigging sad.
Sounds to me she is just a lost child who jumps head on into whatever cause makes her feel part of something. I wonder how long until she becomes a former "extreme" Christian?
@Soselo Dzhugashvili Ha! I've been indroctrinated to Jesus. No evidence there. What have you got? Evidence? 🤓🤔
@Soselo Dzhugashvili unfortunatelly yes!
This poor girl is an obsessive compulsive personality who just traded one bundle of obsessions for another. Her health woes are genuinely tragic and I sincerely hope she has a positive outcome. If so, it will be 100% due to human effort.
I have known several persons who have gone through one mystical fixation after another. Each time, they had a gushing phase that petered out until the next one came along.
Thanks for helping me see the Extreme Atheist in all of us!
She gets bonus points for not driving while making the video.
She loses all the points for not realizing that she wasn't an atheist, but was worshipping herself. This mysterious woman, did she pass along a massive amounts of opiates to kill just the pain? She still has Crohn's, she still has pain, she still is going through treatment. Some god.
God: creates the universe.
Also god: turns people into pillars of salt.
Also also god: floods the entire world, save for some mountaintops.
Also also also god: I can't quite cure you, but I can make you feel better for a bit!
I get the feeling that this is a bullshit story. Not the hospital stay, but her being an atheist, a vegan, or ever being at a protest.
It’s the whole “I was in PETA” thing that really gets me. PETA is an organization that doesn’t believe animals have a right to life. They have the largest kill shelters and outright protest against no-kill animal shelters.
Like one video, a gir in a wheelchair (cancer ward? didn't say) came back to her hospital to visit staff - mainly black women.
Then she got out of the wheelchair and walked and all the nurses did was praise gawd, as if they did nothing.
not to mention babies with cancer, and more, I mean.. they are fresh-born infants, and yet they are doomed in life to suffer far greater than others? Why ? Why give the babies these diseases? It's almost like no one is in absolute control, and diseases are caused by other factors like genetics and micro-organisms, and a 'supreme being' has nothing to do with prevention or curing of them.
That lady wasn't praying for you, she was preying on you.😜
Predators don't prey after the healthiest, strongest individuals in the population. They go after the weak and the sick. The vulnerable.
So yes, preying.
There's a phrase on a t-shirt hidden in there.
Now, for some reason I have this urge to turn on my PC and Prey... I mean play Prey again.
@@jquest99 I always thought predators liked going for the kids
"I was an extreme atheist who didn't want to live anymore, until one night I was visited by someone in a story I totally didn't make up, it definitely happened, and now I am saved... I mean, not from the thing that had me in the hospital, or really anything. The science is still keeping me alive but now, now I believe there is a god so when I do eventually die, after a life spent with long periods of agony, I'll get to live forever pain free and now I'm not an evil, awful atheist who wants to die from the disease I now believe my god gave me, then made me not care about!"
This girl is a trip! She sounds like the concocted parts of this story out of all the evil atheist tropes her pastor rants about on Sunday morning to remind everyone in her church that their god *does* do miracles, no matter how invisible they appear.
That glassy eyed stare into some other dimension they always do, and the odd smiling always comes across as super creepy to me!
She falls into the category of a theist who was sampling on the buffet of religions(she mentioned Buddhism and naturism) and then all of a sudden dives headlong into a religion. I don't believe she was an atheist. She wouldn't have been looking into religions if she truly was. And definitely not an EXTREME atheist, whatever that means...
People who claim to be saved always seem like people who have been completely conned by a cult. Glassy eyed stare and all.
"I had to put aside my pride and accept that an all powerful deity sent a special angel to me specifically because im just that special." Yup, really put that pride aside I see.
"I, too, am extraordinary humble"
🤣🤣🤣
@@ijsbeermeneer9952 😂👍👍👍
That all powerful deity made her sick and in pain in the first place.
Very subtle hint -wink- -wink-
I call bullshit on this story. I spent 3 months in the hospital after a major accident. Had an 800 pound piece of concrete fall on me. Kept in a coma for months. I had many many prayers but never got better at all. The doctors are the ones that made me better. She was probably the chaplain the lady that prayed for her. I had one when I was in there. In from Kentucky to Skeptick. I live in south eastern Kentucky. When her pain comes back what is she gonna say about it? Maybe god will heal her again.
"Girl on large doses of opiates feels universal love from universe" 🤔
Not exactly a groundbreaking headline there 🤷♀️
When I became an atheist I stopped feeling suicidal. I have fibromyalgia so I understand pain. but when I realized there was no afterlife I no longer wanted to die.
Prayer is what one does when he/she has absolutely no intention of actually doing anything to solve the problem at hand.
She was not in any kind of a stable mindset to begin with, she went from idea to idea still trying to figure out reality and her life in general. Then she encountered (or imagined) a nice person during a period of extreme emotional compromise and stress and found a new idea to pursue. She might have been an atheist, maybe, but not for intellectual reasons, she had not considered much of anything beyond rebelling against the status quo up to that point. Glad she survived, sucks she just hopped into another poorly considered 'cause'.
OR, since she did everything in extremes, now she's an extreme liar for cheezus and none of it ever happened.
Yeah, it seems more like she was just trying to find out where she fit in life, and then had a crisis and latched onto the first thing that seemed like an answer.
@@jameshall1300 When dealing with "ex atheists" I usually tell them my assumption, goes like this: "You never asked any questions in regards of religion or atheism, you just had no interrest in church. You had a christian upbringing and one morning, a cat pissed into your cereal and since you had no explanation why, BOOM, gawd, became christian."
Oddly, they never respond.
Exactly.
That's what religion does, go after people at their lowest in life. Similar to how cults work.
"I was an extreme atheist..." X to doubt.
"I was an extreme vegan..." X to doubt.
"I was pansexual..." X to doubt.
"I was an egotistic, terrible person..." Yeah, I buy that one.
Wow, it's like she was in an episode of, ”Touched by an Angel,” or ”Highway to Heaven.”
I oftentimes look with a side-eyed at these so-called once atheist but now I'm a hardcore Christian.
Hardcore Christian like burning witches type or taking back Jerusalem type?
@@internettevarolanadam Not sure, but i'd say: reading the bible and coming to the conclusion: yes, this all happened, even the contradictions.
@@sfamerken12 *Especially* the contradictions, extra content means extra flavor you know!
@@RuneDrageon aw, now you made them sound cool, like Elim Garak.
@Lureeality 🎶🎵 I would put it down to them being 'coincidental atheists' (grown up without a critical mass of religious input) vs 'atheists by choice' (atheists by process of questioning religious claims).
I thought I was an extreme atheist for a while, only to find out that I was wrong about it.
Going skydiving immediately after eating at Chipotle rectified that. Now I actually am an extreme atheist.
Pssht. Chipotle? Amateur. 🙄
Get back to me when you go eat at Taco Bell while not believing there's any evidence of God.
@@jquest99 Taco Bell? You must like easy days.
Slam down a few specials at Del Taco, then answer to me why any loving God would allow that.
😂 I can picture it. Sweating oh god,allah,odin,buddha...etc you called all his names for help but your fate was set in stone. R.I.P
@@jquest99 Taco Bell may send you to the toilet, but it does not also regularly come with a risk of food poisoning. Taco Bell overcooks while Chipotle undercooks.
@@aimliard2276 At least there was nothing solid in the contrail I made, though I might have contributed a very miniscule amount to climate change with it.
Her saying she _was_ pansexual deeply saddens me. Because now she's shunning a big part of who she is and restricting herself because of mind control.
I’ve been waiting for someone to debunk these “atheist to theist” conversion stories. Let’s go!
You know, my dad had Crohn's disease, and it occurs to me that an "extreme vegan" would have a horrible time because it means they're eating LOTS OF FIBER AND ROUGHAGE. This would cause lots of pain at a minimum, if not internal bleeding. I imagine that once she embraced a more omnivorous diet, her suffering would become much more manageable. I don't think we need to see miracles here outside of better diet.
I willing to bet you are right.
I am a vegan and you might be on to something. Sadly there are crazy vegan diets out there like raw vegan. Given the nature of her veganism she would have been susceptible to crazy high carb diets. So her diet could have been a factor.
I had my gallbladder removed. So I know full well how diet can negatively impact a person. I ended up in the ER with massive abdominal pain from a gallstone. So yea; the wrong kind of diet can fuck you up.
And seeing as she claims she was 80 pounds in the hospital, ya, she probably was the kind of vegan who eats nothing but fiber and roughage.
@@someguy2249 I could see the illness causing weight loss. But yea she probably was skinny to begin with. I eat too much junk food. So I am not your stereotypical skinny vegan. There is plenty of vegan junk food out there.
@@jennoscura2381 I'm vegan too. And I eat vegan junk food :).
Obviously this girl has no clue about atheism, veganism, or pansexuality.
I'm not very educated on the pansexuality thing either but isn't it something along the lines of not being sexually attracted to someone you don't get a connection with? And didn't she say she went back to sleeping around like it's nothing right after the hospital did their thing?
Sure, one can have sex with people they aren't sexually attracted to but I have a feeling pansexuals do it a little less. Maybe?
@@johanhalvarsson2148 no, that's demisexual. Pansexuals are people who are attracted to two or more genders or don't care about the gender. Some people say it's the same as bisexuality.
@@AngelDeed oh right, my bad.
I have no reservations for shaming Christians who take advantage of people in a vulnerable state like her "angel."
Does that make me an extreme atheist or do I need to be a vegan?
Bad atheist, no veggies for u
"I was in the hospital for a week being pumped full of pain medication and the only explanation for me not having pain the next day, not being cured or on the way of being better, is a supernatural being helping me after a random woman spoke some words next to me."
Couldn't have possibly be the week worth of pain medication or the doctors trying a new med. No no no. It has to be the super natural being.
As far as praying is concerned you might as well wish upon a star for all the good it does.
Hey stars are pretty!
@@lorekeeper685 And, they exist!
@@ezioa4735 that too lol
Are you questioning the existence of my own personal Jiminy Cricket? Because he told me to tell you that statistically speaking, you are correct. 🙃🐉
I hope she gets well. No prayer. No god. No bs. Just get well, if humanity can make it happen, if it does. we’ll be happy for you.
I have noticed this increase in "car theism" with many different people. Going into surgery once, I was asked if I understood what was about to happen, I said, Yes, I am going to sleep and will either awaken fixed, or I don't wake.
I was just your average, run of the mill atheist. Ya know, like just thinking "no evidence found, so...athiest". Then I watched TheSkepTick and Bang! I'm an Extreme Atheist now! "Extraordinary claims require Extraordinary evidence" type of Atheist! 😊 now I gotta figure out how to work this super thanks...
I spent Christmas of '93 in hospital with Legionnaires, thought I was gone for sure. Thankfully I had a great Dr and modern meds, I was up and back home in a week, back to work in 3 without supernatural intervention.
Hospital at Christmas is a bad place to be for us Nones. It's like a non-stop prayer vigil, they won't leave you alone, even if you ask/demand nicely.
Bro where'd you find legionaires in this time and age? That's a Lotta Roman soldiers right?
Ask the nurses for a marker pen or something and draw a pentagram on your forehead next time. Hopefully they're isn't a next time but it's an idea if this happens again.
Chron's Disease is affected by anxiety/stress. Having a feeling that "someone loves you and will care for you" helps with things like stress and anxiety. It sounds like more so than anything this woman needs more people who truly cares for her and she cares for in her life.
yeah i thougth the same
and for that, she needs to change her old ways of being a complete "see you next tuesday" which she openly admits to in the start, that she was terrible to people - for no good reason, and thus probably got the ire from them back, resented and hated, possibly even bullied. You don't make friends like that, and that will 100% cause you more stress than just getting along with everyone and letting them be themselves. I have christian friends, they believe in the sky wizard, I don't. we still get along fine, they don't try to 'convert' me, and I don't try to prove them wrong all the time. We clash once in a while on subjects but we both see each others point of views. You can't choose what you believe in, after all, you just believe or don't.
@@xXKisskerXx boi i have a nice christian friend. Dunno, i've never seen similar people. And his nickname is teddy and that's just fitting.
And he's also not trying to convert me or something. We just chill a bit sometimes
If what she says is true. Which I highly doubt.
So, what if she doesn’t have anyone who truly cares for her in her life? What about anyone that has no one who cares for them? They are just out of luck? What is wrong with feeling/knowing that God truly cares for you in this life? Do you want to take that away also? How cold is that.
I've had Crohns disease for about 24 years, give or take. I can fully attest that her description is accurate. I've hurt so bad I couldn't take normal breaths. And though it is true that you don't die from the disease, it is also true that you die from your immune system reacting to the disease. I've had 2 surgeries due to Chrons. I shit blood on the regular because of ulcers in my intestines. I've nearly died 3 times. Like, quarantined in ICU while my organs were shutting down. I've also nearly died from the medication used to save my life when my organs were failing. My body literally tries to kill me if I don't take immunosuppressant drugs. So you popping up how people rarely die from Chrons is painting the wrong picture. I don't believe you would do that intentionally, however, which is why I wanted to make this my first comment. No ill intent at all, just a more informed perspective. The disease itself isn't deadly, but the complications it causes are very serious, very painful, and yes, deadly.
That being said, I've never once in all my excruciating pain been visited by an angel, a god, a demon, or anything else I would term outside the realm of science and nature. I can say, however, that the pain meds they give you are top notch and it is very possible she was so stoned out of her mind that she thought this stuff happened.
Thanks Entropy for that clarification on the disease! Interesting to know how the meds make you feel!
@@TheSkepTick There are a lot of pain meds you can't take because of bleeding issues, so it basically goes Tylenol, morphine. If she was in the hospital she was probably on morphine, or maybe a less strong opiate. That's the case with me, anyway. I will beg for morphine as much as I can before they have to taper me off due to risking dependence. And morphine does tend to blur consciousness and sleep, so I very much feel it could have been a dream and she thought it actually happened.
I've been an atheist since the age of 7.
I've heard those who were raised to be stanch theists, who one day realized that there wasn't a Hell, and then not a "God."
The look in their eyes of FREEDOM! is quite joyful to me.
They no longer have to live a life of fear, of being constantly watched, and so on.
I've never had those shackles of slavery on me. I'm so glad it was never put upon me.
I look at the believers and they cockiness. They think are so so much better than you and I.
But they aren't.
What is sad are their lives.
That's not living.
They "live" only to look forward to dying and death.
That's so so empty.
And so so sad.
If you ask staff not to pray with you in the hospital, and they grab your hands and do it anyway, I believe that’s a firing offense. That is so inappropriate. Coming from a hospital RN.
I doubt I would have an issue with someone praying for me, easier to just let them do it, and I view it as their way of wishing me luck. Now, if they demand I let them sacrifice a chicken in the room and sprinkle it's blood on my bed as part of the ritual, I am calling for security. But just coming in and wanting to pray (quietly and briefly), no problem, have at it.
@@avi8r66 I would not bother myself, as long as these people do it quietly, briefly and especially: don't bother me with their prayers.
@@johnscaramis2515 the more people stick up for their freedom of belief and push back on religious privilege the sooner it can be ended.
You should always, if it is safe for you to do so, complain about staff, volunteers, or random passers by pushing their beliefs on you.
I've gone off at cretards trying to convert people at hospital before and I'd do it again too.. they aren't praying for you, they are preying on you
All the more reason to think that the “angel” probably not a staff member.
One quick way to get recognized in apologist circles is to have an atheist conversion story. Her description of herself as an "extreme atheist" ticks all the boxes for the strawman atheists that apologists just love to argue against. Add to this add an angel trope and this is sounding more and more like another batch of experiential apologetics, also known as utter bullshit meant for an audience of the gullible.
It's also telling just how many of Christian buzzwords she crammed into her story. Especially for a supposedly "new" Christian.
I used to be an extremely extreme Atheist, and I was a terrible person and I hated God, and I Took drugs, and fornicated, and strangled puppies, and ate babies and did all the things Atheists generally do. Then one day a Christian said too me "If we evolved from monkeys, how come are there still monkeys?" And that's how I became a Christian.
"Extreme" or otherwise, there are such things as stupid and ignorant atheists. Not everyone who identifies as atheist knows or cares about our origins, science, etc.
They're ripe for the pickin' for any unscrupulous pastor out there.
Yea! Not only was she an "extreme atheist"; but she was also queer. She implies that she is no longer pansexual. Given how homophobic Christians can be; that just adds to her story.
Her: *gets saved by doctors*
Also her: praise the god!!!
She really seemed like a very sane person before converting ..........
If you truly believe in prayer, it can help you, in some sort of placebo effect. But that's about it. I'd rather put my faith in modern medicine, thank you very much.
Exactly. That's probably the same as the typical extremists sometimes say that condoms aren't necessary because if god wants the baby then he'll let it all happen. They usually end up with a bunch of kids and a shitload debt.
There was a study with people praying for patients.
The ones that had no prayer or didn't know about it fared about equal.
Those that knew about the prayer even got worse.
@@bladerunner3314 Yeah, the Templeton institute's intercessionary prayer experiment, that they dropped like a rancid turd when the results showed it to be pure bollocks. These religious Gobshites need to stop accrediting their cosmic dictator for the actual good work of medical professionals. Besides, isn't prayer just another way of telling their magic man in the clouds that his grand plan is faulty and needs correcting?
Me too 😎👍, praying 🙏 is just wishful thinking & self deception, and most of all, ancient superstitious bullshit. 😆😂🤣
@@bladerunner3314
I was going to mention that. The Great Prayer Experiment funded by the Templeton Organisation
And yet you have my Aunty, one of the most kindest, beautiful natured people on earth, also a believer heavily involved in the church, who went through two years of cancerous agony with no amount of praying by herself and her devout family relieving or even looking like curing her condition before she passed away.
Where I had a few doubts about the credibility of the bible etc, her situation is what really tipped me over into not believing anymore.
The song 'Thank You God' by Tim Minchin comes to mind with this episode.
Every time I hear the phrase "Thank you God" I picture the scene from _Animal House_ where a woman in a "Bunny Suit" get's thrown through the bedroom window of a 14 year old looking at Playboy magazine...
yeah i cant take people thanking god for what modern medicine and doctors did for them. i think its incredibly disrespectfull
"'But Joe! She is in Heaven now! God is taking care of her!'"
"'How dare that doctor who saved my loved one from illness demand recognition for it! only God deserves it!'"
*Barf!*
@@theflyingdutchguy9870 There is a tv series called mercy ships where doctors visit remote places via a ship and treat illnesses and physical conditions. just the fact that some of these illnesses exist is an eye opener to anyone used to growing up with access to modern medicine, hospitals and specialists etc.
Usually after each show where the doctors have treated some debilitating condition, or re set bones, that usually without fail the villagers will be crying, dropping to the ground and giving all praise to allah for fixing the situation.
If a person found relief from cancer whenever a Christian said 'partying' in a derisive way, I think we would be safe from cancer for a couple of millennia.
"The only thing that can be 'prayed away' is the ability to perceive Reality."
- A.D. Wallace
Not heard that before, thanks.
So wait, according to her. She didn't open her heart to god, but was healed anyway and then opened her heart afterwards. So tell me why I need to open my heart first again?
Because you'll burn in hell if you die before you believe. Allahu Akkbar.
Yeah, the "I was instantly healed the next day and six months later I came to believe it was a miracle" story seems suspicious, too.
They don't think about more than one aspect of their conversion story only.
They don't care that they're directly contradicting their religion, because these stories aren't meant for atheists. If they were, they'd make a passing attempt at learning what atheists actually believe or don't. Instead they all have the "vile atheist tropes" that are a telltale sign to anyone who has ever reasoned their way out of their religion.
@@Thoron_of_Neto To be fair, she never claims to be reasonable. She was an emotional atheist and an emotional vegan and then she changed to an emotional Christian.
@@goldenalt3166
Oooh, so she's an emotionalist 👍👍
I'm an atheist and I still say bless you when someone sneezes. I don't say god bless you.
Ditto
I use "gesundheit" - meaning "to wish good health".
Switched to it after having a child as I didn't want to use religiously loaded language with them.
I never say bless you when someone sneezes. It’s not because I’m an atheist; it’s because it originated from superstitious beliefs and I do not want to be perceived as superstitious in any way. I stopped believing in superstitions a long time before I stopped believing in the god of my church. So for me, it‘s a matter of principle. But I accept that that’s _just me_ and I don’t care if no one else follows my example.
Besides, having to say something because someone sneezes is just, well, stupid.
@@autonomouscollective2599
That's cool. I respect your opinion.
I have tried to find people I used to know online, but it’s really hard these days with not everyone being listed in the phone book anymore. And not everyone is on social media either.
The fact that she was on pain medication may have caused her to misremember the name, or mistake a fever dream for reality.
Got to pause to check out the shirts and to see if stickers are available...
Awesome shirts and mug. I'd love to buy a couple pairs of the current designs as stickers.
I’ll make stickers a thing!
The script:
[Opening scene]
Protagonist approaches man exiting Atheist Church.
Protagonist: "Excuse me sir, are you an atheist?"
Atheist hefts his various atheist icons, jewelry, and atheist holy book, clumsily dropping most of them because atheists can do nothing right.
Atheist: "Yes, I am, hail Satan praise Darwin the one true prophet of EVILution"
Protagonist utters Prayer Of Conversion
Atheist: "Oh my goodness the scales hath fallen from mine very eyes I now see the Light(tm)(r)(c) of The One True God Hallowed By His Name Amen Hallelujah"
[Deleted Scene]
Writer of script violently orgasms over everything after writing this masterpiece, knocking out a brick wall across the street in the process.
This is a skit. They think they can argue using skits.
One reason I'm an atheist is the inefficacy of prayer. I've lost count of the times I saw faith healing fail right before my eyes.
I'm not even convinced that she was an Atheist to start with.
I wanna be an extreme atheist! How do I not believe in something more?
Go full 2000s YOLO, maybe?
Well, have you tried praying to Lisa the Rainbow One?
You really have to be superduper mad at god, according to Xtians.
Try being pansexual for a while -- which I think means having a drunken lesbian relationship in college, once.
@@PierreaSweedieCat praise be to the Giver of Leaf, for with her, all things giraffe or not are possible.
I'm sorry, but she was never an Atheist. Not to use the "no true Scotsman" argument, but I don't believe anyone ever who says they were once an Atheist but converted to Christianity.
I have very bad spinal damage and horrible pain. I let someone pray over it and I still have the same crippling pain to this day.
It's rubbish!
'I don't believe anyone ever who says they were once an Atheist but converted to Christianity'
So true! I can't believe I fell for this lie. Once you stop believing in religious dogma, you can't go back from that.
There's only one path ahead, and it can't be reversed.
Coming out of it is a painful process, but it can happen. We escaped the LDS church mostly due to a failure in information control, ending in what can only be described as a destruction of identity (OSDD-2 most likely being the medical term). We probably once could have made this kind of video, and are lucky to have had the correct circumstances to see what we really were head deep in.
I think that depends on what kind of atheist she was. She seems to me to come from a Christian background, going through an «Atheist» phase to rebel at her restraints, and then coming back into the fold. It would be interesting to know if that is true.
Pain meditation is a helpful tool. Needs a lot of focus, but it will change the pain experience. Works better with consistent pains. And the stronger the pain, the easier the focus.
I was an atheist BEFORE I was diagnosed with Crohn's Disease (around the same time as the person in this video). If anything, the diagnosis made my disbelief stronger (what kind of "kind & loving" deity would let this kind of thing happen to their creations?).
Desperate people will say and do desperate things.
But desperate and intelligent people know how reality works.
@@Anonymous-md2qp reality is a jerk sometimes
This is hard for me to listen to as someone who has spent months in the hospital because of another IBD (ulcerative colitis). The pain and hopelessness is real, and some people don't respond to any therapies... basically your whole life is a flare-up. For Crohn's it's far worse than UC because the disease can also be in the small intestine, so they have to remove as little as possible resulting in multiple surgeries.
I can say that I was targeted multiple times by "hospital missionaries." I think it's a little sick to target people when they are at their most hopeless. I did have a chaplain come and just listen, and that was nice, but that was an exception to the rule.
Also, there's no such thing as an "olostomy bag." I'm pretty sure she was talking about either a colostomy or ileostomy bag depending on how much of her colon they had to remove.
I've personally had some really terrible issues with digestion. I won't go into details but the words "never again " and "no more" have 100% passed my lips while I curl up in pain wanting any sort of relief possible. The thing is, science is what will help me, not some prayer words that never get remembered, let alone heard by an all powerful being.
@@xXKisskerXx the difficulty with many immuno-compromising diseases is that the science isn't that good at this point. Couple that with our threadbare understanding of the digestive microflora and extremely expensive therapies and it is understandable why people turn to alternatives. With IBDs, doctors will tell you straight up they aren't sure how they're triggered and have limited advice for extending remission. For some people, nothing works and the only remedy is to remove the offending organs.
Having been there, I can understand why people might be susceptible to religion. When doctors give you a lot of "maybes" and "mights", the certainty of a magic sky man is tempting. I could even imagine falling in to the trap simply to give your distressed family members some hope.
its often when people are at their lowest. they are open to the craziest things. if it just makes them feel better. because at that point. thats all you will care about. i cant even imagine it.
@@theflyingdutchguy9870 If someone has to be emotionally compromised to believe in something, that makes the theist's arguments automatically invalid.
I ended up in the ER with massive abdominal pain from a gallstone. My issue was fixed by morphine in the ER and the subsequent removal of my gallbladder. Jeebus had nothing to do with it.
If a was at the hospital and someone came to pray for me, I would not become a theist, I would call the police.
PETA? Seriously, lady, that's the worst part of it for me.
Sounds to me that all she's done is go from one end of the pretentious spectrum to the other end.
More like "made up a story about how she was tooooootally what conservatives think liberals are, then transformed into what conservatives think is reasonable, but never actually was for the sake of getting likes on the internet."
She contradicts herself. Who knows what she really thinks because of the bs
Thank you God, for fixing the stomach ache of this girl! How I love Tim Minchin. But I very much doubt about this entire story, she might've exaggerated a bunch. The whole extreme wording is mostly used by those types.
*Temporarily* fixing the stomach ache of this girl.
@@lnsflare1 True, but that would make the rhythm out of whack.
When someone says “I used to be an atheist but now I believe in God and JC”, yeah, you can be sure they have never been atheists.
I love how this story suggests that the doctors, who presumably were actively treating this patient, were bewildered at the idea that this patient would start getting better
I love how sh3 claimed she was magically healed, only to admit she's still in pain & fooked, but now she pretends like she's saved. I'm in a similar shit boat, but I never pretend.
I smell 🐃💩! I've been in multiple situations that should have ended in my death, but suprise, suprise, I'm still an atheist because it's the doctors and nurses who saved me and not some invisible sky wizard! 🤦♂️
Because medical science makes sense
Her testimony: before having God in my I used to be a vegan and against animal cruelty, I even joined PETA stop animal cruelty.
Her message is God is pro animal cruelty, that’s a weird message to tell people
Except peta is one of the biggest torturers and murderers of animals.
@@SonOfTheDawn515 ok Troll
In the old testament god required animal sacrifice. So it fits. Kosher slaughter is cruel. As a vegan I am against slaughter in general. But Kosher and Halal are worse. I can't be the only Jew against it.
Christians are pretty much married to right wing politics and hate anything left wing even if it's not related to religion.
Some people have "evangelical" personalities. Before I was a Christian I evangelised for poor persecuted marijuana. Then I became a Christian and evangelised in the usual sense of the word. Then I became an atheist and evangelised for atheism and sexual liberation. Now I'm Green. And just recently I caught myself starting to evangelise for the therapeutic use of psychedelics...
"I have no emotions, which makes me sad."
"He sent Himself to let us torture Him, so He could forgive breaking rules He imposed, which He could easily forgive or even completely nulify, because He's God." - John 3:16
Paraphrasing, of course.
It's like getting a new car, and suddenly seeing your car everywhere. Human brains do strange things when stressed. It's too bad she's turned to the supernatural, and feels like she's a terrible person because she's a *vegan*. So sad.
Thanks for the name drop tick! Best channel on TH-cam.
Thank YOU Shane!
I think the thing that bothers me the most about this sort of testimony is the implicit assumption that if you are a non-believer, you have never - truly - "given God a chance."
They will not accept both that you are honest and that you are unconvinced after genuinely seeking.
And here we have an example of the dangers of being addicted to instant gratification. Patience used to be a virtue.
"Bad thing happened and later its stop being that bad therefore cult of sacrifice about an invisible deity is real."
I was an extreme Christian too! Prayed the sinners prayer as a young adult, went to a conservative bible school, taught and preached in church (my conservative church was sufficiently liberal to let a woman do all that). After almost 20’yeard I deconverted because to dedicate your life to something for which there is zero evidence, I couldn’t do it anymore. The year after I was diagnosed with a chronic autoimmune disease. I thought about reconverting for about 5 seconds. I haven’t prayed a single prayer, not even in my worst, most painful moments. Too much experience praying, fasting and having vigils for cancer and heart parients, alcoholics and drug addicts, the troubled, poor and unemployed, with zero results. What a waste of time and sleep. Thanks scientists for my medicines that are doing a pretty good job so far.
I don't have Crohn's Disease so I can't speak to whether or how it affects mental health. But I do suffer from a condition that has meant living with chronic pain for the last several decades.
And yes, chronic pain, regardless of its source, does affect mental health. I've dealt with a fair amount of depression because of it. But knowing the cause of it at an intellectual level has helped me to find ways to live with it so that I'm able to function well in the world and have no suicidal thoughts. I know the cause and can use that to my advantage because I am a rational person and do not mistakenly attribute phenomena to supernatural causes when they actually have natural causes. Understanding the natural causes I am then able to address them head on, more efficiently and successfully.
This is also why I don't dance in circles wearing a white robe during dry summers, trying to convince the rain gods to give us rain during a drought.
And this is why I respect the help I can get from modern medicine, such as vaccines, because I'm rational.
And this is why being rational is a life or death matter. Practice being irrational and it's easier to get talked into doubting things such as the efficacy of vaccines ... with fatal results.