The 'Best' Reasons This Guy Stopped Being An Atheist
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- There may be some good reasons why folks start to believe in a god, right?
Well, maybe those good reasons don't show up here... but if you're after some word salad, and some dumb reasons why someone 'stopped being an atheist', then you're at the right place.
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CORRECTION: He *hasn't* studied physics, and he is *NOT* an intellectual thinker
That's why he said "Was" regarding to the intellectual part.
Oh, yeah, come to think of it, he said that & then demonstrated no awareness of effects like virtual particles or the randomness of radioactive decay, didn't he?
He's an 'intellectual' the same way Kent Hovind is a marital relations adviser.
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in TH-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
@@Nai_101 imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in TH-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
He's hitting every single point blathered by every other apologist out there. Amazing
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in TH-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
He’s basically regurgitating Frank Turek, who is a C tier apologist.
I don't think he ever was an atheist..
@@k0lpA He has definitely been religious his entire life.
@@weirdwilliam8500 of course, when it comes to the Cosmological argument, Turek just parrots William Lane Craig. So, that's two.
3:09 NO, that is NOT how you play Dominoes. That is how you play WITH dominoes, but the game does not include pushing things to make them fall. 🙄
Literally posted that comment to his video before seeing yours.
He actually got a set a dominoes ready just so he could place 2 of them, knock them down and then put them away...FFS
Thanks for that visual aid, nobody already knows what the 'domino effect' is.
@@jerk1921 Eh, the domino effect. Does it have anything to do with Domino's Pizza? 🤪
19:34 " _Jesus says in order to become this kind of person, all that one needs to do is become a student of me_ " Said every cult leader and most nasty dictators in history.
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in TH-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
Really? Can you take a moment and prove what’s so dangerous about these?
"For “whoever would love life and see good days must guard his tongue from bad and his lips from speaking deception. Let him turn away from what is bad and do what is good; let him seek peace and pursue it. " -1 Peter 3:11
“But now you must put them all away from you: wrath, anger, badness, abusive speech, and obscene talk out of your mouth. Do not lie to one another. Accordingly, as God’s chosen ones, holy and loved, clothe yourselves with the tender affections of compassion, kindness, humility, mildness, and patience. Continue putting up with one another and forgiving one another freely even if anyone has a cause for complaint against another. Just as Jehovah freely forgave you, you must also do the same. But besides all these things, clothe yourselves with love, for it is a perfect bond of union. ” - Colossians 3:8,9, 12-14
“Never be anxious about the next day, for the next day will have its own anxieties. Each day has enough of its own troubles. ” -Matthew 6:34
““You heard that it was said: ‘You must love your neighbor and hate your enemy. However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those who persecute you, so that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise on both the wicked and the good and makes it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous. For if you love those loving you, what reward do you have?" -Matthew 5:43-46
“Even a child is known by his actions, whether his behavior is pure and right. ” -Proverbs 20:11
@@M4x1m1l14nn I can cherry pick Jesus quotes too:
Matthew 10: 34 " _Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword_ .”
Matthew 10: 21 " _Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death_ .”
Mark 11: 13-14 " _And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet. 14And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it_ ."
Luke 12: 47 " _And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes_ " {It's ok to beat slaves}
@@M4x1m1l14nn there's nothing particularly dangerous about jesus. to some degree he may represent the better side of humanity. though, given the horrors christians (all zealots of any faith) have manifested in this World, any good he supposedly conjured is moot. end results are what matter. in the present zealots of all stripes support the evilest humans walking this Planet, traitor45/mbs/czarputin/bolsonaro/etc., they partner with greedyrich a-holes bent on paying nothing in taxes & support hitler-like monsters. to consolidate power, these monsters conspire to destroy freedom/fairness/prosperity for all/privacy/logic/creativity/joy to be alive & live a good life without being poisoned or hypnotized. accepting the omnipotent creator who: narrated to unsane societal rejects a bookofgobbledygook greenlighting SLAVERY/persecution of homosexuals&women/and allows children to be abused in every way form and fashion isn't just ridiculous, it breaks and makes dangerous weak minds of well-armed fools who know next to nothing about anything, especially history & reality
Every con artist ever. Which is the same thing, really, but that's what con artists do. _Wanna be rich? Gimme all your money and I'll make you rich._
It was just shocking to me (for some inexplicable reason despite the fact that I know better) that he would just come right out and say that obvious red flag. Talk about _There are none so blind as those who will not listen to yourself say that sort of garbage what's _*_wrong_*_ with you you stupid child?_
Why do they always say "i love science, i like physics" and then go on to completely not understand science or physics?
Because it _sounds_ better to say those things, especially to the people in his target audience... :-|
because to the layman it makes them more believable whem they say they love science. remember most people that watch this type of content as theists have no or barely any knowledge of science.
Christians aren't usually entirely anti-science, just against whatever conflicts with their current interpretation of the Bible. They sometimes frame studying science as learning about god's world. It's difficult but not impossible to study specific areas of science while ignoring (or being guided away from) inconvenient areas.
Phil Swaim, I have one telling me how the Catholic church has always been the protector of science.
I like some Korean and Japanese bands/songs. I don’t understand a word but the songs sound nice… I think this guy is the same way about science.
Did he just say he knows how to play dominoes, then knock a couple over? He knows as much about playing dominoes as he does about rational thought...
I saw that and thought " _That's not how you play dominoes_ " I bet he thinks you play chess by throwing the pieces at one another.
@@condorboss3339
😂🤣😂
@@condorboss3339 I am not sure I want to know what he believes the bishop piece is used for.
@@DavidRichardson153 🤣
Guy couldn't throw bones in a cemetery.
Jesus and Moses were out in a boat, fishing, and they started reminiscing about their glory days, wondering if they still had their magic. Jesus said "you think you could still part the waters?" So Moses stood up, spread his arms wide, and the waters parted in front of him. He put the water back the way it was and sat down, saying "do you think you could still walk on water?" Jesus got up, took a few steps, but then started to sink. He managed to quickly swim back to the boat, and as Moses helped him back onto the boat he asked what happened. Jesus replied "I forgot, last time I didn't have these damn holes in my feet!"
😂😂
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
That was good
Oh that's good lol
Brilliant 🤣
I've been an atheist since age ten. I lead a good life, have good friends, and I feel I'm a moral person. No Jesus required or desired.
That's really good for you. But some people need help to understand how life works.
I didn't know it was a possibility until I was 18, though I had doubts and didn't understand the concepts of religion for many years prior
@@thesilentmajority2765 Superstition doesn't teach people how life works. It teaches people how destructive humans can be to themselves and others but little else.
@@thesilentmajority2765 No problem with that - BUT
would it not be good when the followers of the just loving God are going vehemently against all those that abuse their God for evil purposes according to their positive interpretetion of God?
@@PigglePigSwillbucket I was twenty when I read that the prophet Mohammed was lifted directly into heaven and returned alive and well. I had no trouble not believing that happened, even though it was supposedly witnessed by a multitude. That was the moment I no longer felt guilty for not believing in anything equally ridicules as virgin births and resurrections from the dead.
I had grief hallucinations for months after my husband died. They're pretty common. It's the brain processing a stressful event. I saw him in front of me speaking to me and everything. But at no point did I say he has resurrected.
Sorry to hear that it hit you so hard. I hope you're feeling more on an even keel now.
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in TH-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️.
Grief hallucinations are a thing, but there's also the auto-deceptive nature of so many cults to consider. I won't bother looking up the name because it's hardly a unique story, but off the top of my head there's at least one rabbi with a cult following that proclaimed himself to be the messiah. He died. His cult still believes. Harold Camping foretold the end of the world... what, 13 times? 15? and many of his cultists thought he was right every single time. A very few wised up, but not many, even after the old fraud died.
The resurrection bit is a great multi-tool for cults. Appease people's fear of death AND provide an easy escape clause when your "prophet" croaks. Cults teach their victims to despise the truth because the truth is so damn inconvenient. But if you think death is temporary and magic is real, well... prophets can't fail, they just go on "vacation".
Similar happened to me when my mother died. Extremely vivid dreams where I spoke to her and she spoke back. It's a real gut punch, but it's part of the healing process. Patrick Rothfuss has his character _Kvothe_ describe it in a way I like; it's like putting the pain in a little box in your mind and occasionally opening it up to look at it until it stops hurting so much.
I had something similar. When my mum was dying I felt my grandmother's presence hassling me to go to her bedside at the hospice. I hardly knew my grandmother and the timing was amazing. Still I concluded years later it was grief hallucinations, I wasn't overwhelmed by grief either, not consciously.
Thanks for sharing.
I wish I could remember who said it (and heavily paraphrasing here), but god used to walk in the garden, then we learned a little more and god was on a mountaintop, and we learned a little more and god was in the heavens, and we learned a little more and god was outside of space and time. And once we confirm that we are part of a multiverse, god will be relegated even farther away. The more we learn makes god keep moving house!
He seems like a nice enough kid. But come on, the Kalam Cosmological? That convinced him? 🤣🤣🤣
And what irks me the most is that he was so "convinced" by the KCA that he used that definition ( the spaceless, timeless, immaterial [and also personal and powerful for some ad-hoc reason(s)] cause *_of the universe_* ) for the brief moment it was useful, but later on switched to the "uncaused cause" definition, since that one was better suited for what he needed then. -.-
Nice kids don't make an effort to be as categorically dishonest and disingenuous as possible.
You (and many others) need to stop being confused between demeanor and niceness. Just because he isn't shouting insults doesn't mean he isn't calling you a complete idiot. He is _NOT_ a "nice kid". He's a lying piece of garbage who wants to grow up to be a professional fraud for Jesus. He's calling you an idiot, he's just putting on a _nice_ show so you notice it less. Con artists are often nice to their intended victims too, I wouldn't call them "nice enough kids".
Yh he doesn't come off as aggressive as many other apologists. Seems like a nice person deceived by a cult.
Heres another one that baffles me:
"The universe cant be eternal; its unpossible!"
"What about god?"
"Oh hes eternal..."
If you took his logic at face value, god could never have made the universe, since eternity still had to pass before he did so.
God is unchanging, yet in his timeless eternity he changed his mind and created the whole universe out of literally nothing.. The plan what will happen was fixated before creation even started, so exact that prophecies fulfilled themselves centuries later.
Must be pretty boring, when you know everything in advance. When you are unchanging, all your thoughts must have been thought before you did not come into existence.
As all that lives is changing all the time, and God is unchanging, God does not live.
Or, Universe is created, Universe can't be part of an infinite regress, Discard multiple precursors because "it's just pushing back the creating event", therefor our god that directly created this specific universe as the first created thing. Ignores that the conclusion is contradicted by previously discarded possibility.
Yea there’s no way we have know enough right now to know if that’s impossible or not.
@The Angry Atheist technically, there's a key difference that might justify why said god doesn't share the same unpossibilities as our universe: we can interact with and _study_ the universe. ;-)
So right out of the gate this guy claims to have studied physics, then shows he doesn't understand the physics behind BB/Inflation, as well as assuming classical cause and effect where it doesn't necessarily apply. Then presumes a "God" to stuff into his made-up parameters for what "created" this Universe.
I like how he said he *was* an "intellectual type" and a "thinker". Apparently he stopped.
He defaults to a particular version of "God" for no discernible, rational, evidence-based reason. He makes use of logical fallacies. Basically, just spouting well-debunked and silly Christian apologetics. I question if this guy was ever an actual atheist. Certainly not a rational skeptic.
Nothing here was convincing at all.
☝🏻
Some people think that if you read one article in USA Today that mentions the big bang, that counts as studying physics.
@@katherineg9396 I read an article on monster trucks twenty years ago and now I'm convinced that I could build a family car out of thirty tonnes of iron and aluminium ore. If I really had to. Praise the Lord!
There probably wasn't a tomb. Peoples crucified for sedition like Jesus, never were entombed...
Taking him at his word that he actually used to be an atheist (for the sake of argument) I doubt he took the position seriously enough to understand either the "Big Bang" theory or what logical fallacies are and why they fail to rationally support a position. Otherwise he'd see the obvious logical flaws in the cosmological argument. He also would have probably understood the difference between our observable universe and what is often referred to as the "cosmos" and would have avoided strawmaning the non-religious position.
Side note: that he ironically seems to have a winged cross tattooed on his chest (even though the Bible says not to get tattoos) makes me wonder how seriously he's studied Christianity either.
Edit : About the Journal of the American Medical Association conclusion he mentioned as part of his evidence for Jesus being supernatural, he conveniently left out as few things...
1) That it was written by a Mennonite preacher (who I think was a pathologist). 2) That it was just an assumption based on the preacher's interpretation of the Gospels.
3) When it was published in 1986 (IIRC) the JAMA was bombarded with complaints from all across the medical community about how unscientific it was and how disappointing it was that it was allowed to go to press.
So not exactly an authoritative conclusion but one still parroted by apologists, with inconvenient typically omitted.
Intellectual and thinker, yeah right...
"you're just pushing the problem back"
Says the person who is arbitrarily pushing the problem back to his particular imagination friend
He argues that the universe cannot be eternal because nothing can be eternal then claims the universe was created by something that is eternal.
@@condorboss3339 "yeah but that's different, that's gawd!"
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in TH-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
Except that our universe exists contingently otherwise it would not be 13.70 billion years old. This fact means, perforce, that the efficient cause for its existence must be "a transcendent, beginningless, spaceless, immaterial, timeless, unchanging, omnipotent, good personal being," i.e. Almighty God.
@@M4x1m1l14nn
Show how something is contingent before claiming it's a fact. Like here
Ok, putting aside for the moment all of his "reasons" for believing that a God exists, it's an amazing coincidence that all his research on which is the one true religion just so happen to lead him back to the religion he was born and raised in.
Truly amazing, don't you think.
Mom and Dad got it right after all...
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in TH-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️.
@@rickn8or imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in TH-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️.
Like I like to tell people like him: You grew up christian, got bored, wanted to sleep in, didn't go to church, didn't jesus much. One morning a cat pissed into your cereal, BOOM, sign from the OG real gawd, not jew-gawd or muslim-gawd.
@@bladerunner3314 imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in TH-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
"Word salad that could have stopped world hunger." That one was good.
the immidiate defeater to their "we have never seen anything come into existence out of nothing" is simply "we have never seen anything come into existance at all." We see Energy solidifying into matter, matter transforming into other matter or being released back into energy... but nobody has ever seen anything START to exist, and we don't even know if something like that is possible. As far as we know, everything always existed, just in different states of being.
Further, even if it is true *_within_* our universe, it does not necessarily follow that it is true for the universe itself.
@@condorboss3339 And even if it does follow, in no way does it predicate a God. Let alone their specific God.
This is my key objection and we don’t hear it used enough in response to this ridiculous argument
It's a good thing he had those dominoes in order to explain things. It's so clear to me now...
He was never an atheist.
Let's not "No True Scotsman" the guy now.
@evangedeon2194 Yeah, most Atheist has cross with wings tattoos on their chests...
@@lizekamtombe2223 No!
Also thats not how you play dominoes.
As good old Frank would say he had enough faith to be an atheist, but when he lost some of that faith he became a theist.
He definitely went down the religion rabbit hole. Takes stories out of the Bible, calls them facts and then asks people to debunk them.
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in TH-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
Worse he trots out every single apologist bollocks
I am Pagan Wicca yes I have read many books Koran Hadiths bible Torah B O S many
Doreen Valiente
@@ashwayn Well that gave me a good giggle for sure
@@ashwayn pagan wikka? Is the west so fucked up??? And who said the opposite is a western godless Hipocrite
I became a believer because of the invisible pink unicorn in my garage. It is one unicorn but also three unicorns. It sacrificed itself to itself to create a loophole in the rule it made up to be able to torture all humans forever, but changed its mind after a bad weekend but kept the loop hole because reasons.
Is life torture to you?
@@thesilentmajority2765 Wow, missing the both the idea and the point entirely. Are you a theist? That's pretty common with them.
DAMN. This is right on the nose.
@@thesilentmajority2765 Can you read? He never suggested this life is torture.
@@thesilentmajority2765 He's referencing Hell, but there are people for whom that description definitely fits, like imagine having some chronic, brutally painful genetic disease that you were apparently specifically created with as part of God's glorious plan.
We aren't all intellectual deep-thinkin' types like him! 🤣
It was nice of him to point that out I guess.
You better be cause reality has a way of bruising ppl who are too lazy to understand it
That Guy was so unbearable I considered not watching this video to the end, but that joke with Sir Sic as possible Brain made it worth sticking with it!
Phew! 😅
"We don't have to worry about things popping into existence..."
Tell that to the whale and the vase of petunias.
"Oh dear.... not again..."
subatomic particles do randomly pop into existence
🪴" _Oh, no! Not again_ !" 🪴
I wonder if it’ll be friends with me
It is indeed very fortunate that there is no supernatural entity that can just pop things into existance or alter the way in which reality operates on a whim. Imagine trying to do science in a universe like that. You'd never be able to understand anything.
Frankly as far as I'm concerned if jebus existed he was nothing more than a first-century Galilean cult leader. No rising from the dead and no superpowers MCU Style.
At best the story is kind of like a movie script loosely based on real events, only written in Greek for Romans.
i think if there is some truth to it its probably a character made from many different characters from famous stories from back then. and they decided to base the character of jesus on those characters. when you think about it the bible really is like a book of fairy tales with some that have a basis in reality but with magical elements added to make the story bigger and more fantastical. and it turned into this giant religion. wich i dont think the writers initialy intended😅
Which makes it all the more funny when Christians insist that Jesus must have been real. Especially when it's coming from moderate Christians who like to claim pretty much all the magical parts that display Gods power are allegories. They like to think Genesis is an allegory, in order to deal with the fact of Evolution, but then believe in the core stupidity of their religion, that for some bullshit reason their God almighty impregnated a virgin girl with himself, to get crucified for their sins, then woke up in a cave 3 days after dying. Cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing.
Not to mention that the magic Jesus performed is seriously a joke, it's pathetic. And from the weak as magic Jesus supposedly performed, people conclude that he must be the one and only all powerful God? Really? How can people be this convinced that what Jesus did was impressive in any way to declare he must have been related to someone all powerful. No way he was just a lowly magician, no, he's definitely the child of the allmighty and the allmighty himself personified. And if you go to comic and anime forums you see religious nutjobs who think Jesus can beat Superman and Goku simultanously. Religious people are really dumb as shit.
Whether there was a real individual on whom the character we now call Jesus was based on or not, doesn't change the fact that the character from the bible is made up. Either way, Christianity is bullshit. There is literally zero proof for a specific individual, who could be called Jesus, but that doesn't stop people from declaring it as a fact that he existed. And then there are the cultural Christians, who don't even believe in a God or that Jesus did those magic tricks, but still cling to the belief that Jesus was real and the source of their morals, as if they'd have no morals any more if they questioned that Jesus was real.
Honestly, I haven't seen a single proof that such a person existed. And you don't need such a person to exist to make up a religion, you just have to make up stories about such a person. It's as if people forget how stories can be made up when it comes to their beliefs. People love to quote Paul or even Tacitus, but none of those guys have ever met Jesus. So where does this desperate desire to want to believe something to be fact even though there is literally no real evidence for it, come from. Why is it so hard for people to say "I don't know", "I cannot know". Why is it so hard for people to even entertain a thought that goes contrary to their beliefs. How come people like to declare their beliefs as facts, as if there was no other possibility.
Is it bad that i want an MCU plot where Loki saw Jesus die on the cross and thought it would be funny if he impersonated him for a few days
@@kickasterisk6155 lmao
9:30 So, if Lazarus claimed to be god, you'd be a "Lazarun" right now? Because I'm about 80% sure he did it first, in your own book.
Don’t forget the guy that got chucked into Elisha’s grave!
It's not part of the canon bible so nah 🚫
Summary:
Claims = evidence
I believe = fact
This got more painful and illogical as it went along.
It's amazing how all of these religious apologists will spend twenty minutes or more explaining how everything, absolutely everything needs a cause in which to come into existence, and in the very next breath state that their god, of course, did not need said cause. And they say it without the slightest hint of irony.
Of course they can get away with special pleading. Their god is SO special, after all.
He stopped being truthful that’s not the same as stopping being an atheist.
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in TH-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️.
It kinda is, honestly, he just went from a position of not believing to being convicted of an idea. Whether he reached that conclusion truthfully or not, it is a personal opinion, not a definition of atheism.
Wanna bet he was never an actual atheist, and definitely not one by critical thinking and reasoning, but more like just not a hard core believer yet, or a believer with some doubts...?
@@Bob-of-Zoid Probably.
Not always easy being an atheist/agnostic though depending on your environment. If you never really gave your worldview much serious thought before and/or got most of your knowledge from Christian propaganda or what have you I can understand how someone could fall into that rabbit hole and identify as former atheist. Who knows, they might even have some anecdotal story of how they experienced something and for some reason attributed that to a god.
@@Mar-dk3mp at least we have English, you can keep your fake sky fairy 🧚♂️ thanks, and may underpants give you the support, your fake sky lord cannot.
i like how this guy puts himself in a "Vs" with Matt and Paulogia like he could hold a banana against them
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in TH-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
Hopefully not a Ray Comfort banana. 🍌
@@unkaumanguy1439 or Dr. Peel.
@@unkaumanguy1439 I've always wanted to present Ray with the orginal bannana before humans artificially selected the modern bannana and see if he would have the same thoughts... who am I kidding. he would
Better call Ray comfort.
😂
It hurts to listen to this guy, I find it amazingly mind-boggling how his reasoning works. (Logic thinking on overdrive!)
"If there's an infinite number of days how did we get to today?" If there's an infinite number of values between 1 and 2 how can we get to 2?
Gregor Cantor for the win!
@@condorboss3339 Georg :-B
"If it cant be infinite number of days how can there be an infinite afterlife?"
@@Julian0101 their can be an infinit afterlife because you can get even further away from a finite Starting point.(line the big bang) But you can not arrive today if you Start counting from infinity. So you just start counting from a Finite point in the infint past easy
@@Kuelschrank2000 Sure, if you arbitrarily start from the Big bang (start of the expansion) you can get to the today. I dont think anyone disputes that.
Here we go again with these nobbos
"So I asked who made god, but I was told not to ask this and to special plead for god. So I thought to myself, what a great idea and run with it." Rigorous thinking process at work here, I'm quite impressed.
I was surprised he didn't use the normal excuse, since the spaceless, timeless, genderless, homeless God is outside space and time, and causality is temporal, it doesn't need a beginning.
You just can't argue with this logic. Dammit, I'm going to church tomorrow.
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in TH-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
GOD is the begining and the end alpha and omega means
@@nathanielmuller4400 The problem they have then is that if this god didn't have a creator, then why does the universe need to have a creator? If those rules don't apply to things before the universe expanded, then they didn't apply to the universe existing in that medium either. And of course this assumes that whole 'energy cannot be created or destroyed' thing only applies within the universe, and assumes that there is an 'outside the universe'. Special pleading only works if you accept it's flawed logic. Lastly, I would point out the Big Bang says everything started from a singularity, not started from nothing. Everything was within a single point, then it expanded, then the energy cooled enough for the first elements to form, etcetera, etcetera.
@@GODiscomingsoonagain you worship a volcano.. actually read your cults book, exodus 13:21
Former atheist is the new born again.
Is it really born again if you go full apologist before your balls drop?
need them from authority fallacies and yeh quite funny
“A thinker intellectual type kinda like I was” 😅thanks for the laugh
Like that old game goes, just add "until the accident" at the end and it makes so much more sense.
Just like I've told you, I was not gay!
that's a lot of religiously inspired ink for 18 months. Now, I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that he's performing being a now former atheist, and it's all about the grift and getting all the Christian chicks to come to the yard. Okay, maybe I'm jaded...
Just like Matt Powell is Kent Hovind's son he never had, this guy must be WLC's son he doesn't yet know about.
Ohh. What a possibility.
He definitely went all in on the (WLC version of the) Kalam, didn't he?
WLC bastard son
#
Seriously, this guy just regurgitated Low Bar Bill's argument pretty much verbatim
@@dannycomellas Some places I couldn't even help myself but think: that's what Bill said.
So he can't say that "there is a reason to life because I say so", but "there is a reason to life because there is a god, and there is a god because I say so" is not a problem?
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in TH-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️.
It never fails to amaze me how they can point out a fallacy and then commit that exact same fallacy while claiming to have overcome the fallacy. The amount of intellectual blindness necessary to say “the big bang is wrong because every single thing needs a cause” and then immediately make a claim about something that doesn’t need a cause is hard for me to imagine.
@@sledzeppelin What amazes me most about religious people is how they can perfectly say what is wrong with every other religion out there, using the exact same arguments any atheists would give, then turn around and say THEIR religion is nothing like that and the absolute truth, even though it's the exact same shit.
He broke his brain trying to think about infinity. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He was an atheist? Citation needed!
Oh, hold on, I wasn't paying attention to the questions I apparently need to answer, let me go back.
1. "What is reality? What kind of world do we live in?"
What does that mean? Was Jesus a physicist?
2. "Who is living the good life?"
What does that mean?
"Like how do I know?"
That's what I'm asking.
3. "Who is a good person?"
Good person & bad person are labels we use to describe how we feel about people.
4. "How does one become a good person?"
Do things that benefit people & don't do things that harm people as much as possible.
"These questions only have meaning if a God exists?"
Well, 2 of them don't really have meaning in general because they're too vague, & the other two are mostly subjective but we can give some general ideas for. However, it's unclear how creating the universe would make you the decisive authority on any of these, especially if your answer is as fucking stupid as "worship me or you're evil."
Oh, wait, you're going to try to answer these "for God"? Splendid.
1. "We don't live in a world where everything is material, & when we die, thats it. Rather, we live in a world where God works with us in a relationship to bring good into the world."
So, Jesus said we live in the exact opposite world from what we observe? I mean, some smartass always comes in saying something like "well, are abstract concepts material?" but, look, however you define "material," we don't observe magic. And if God is such a relationship-builder, why did you need to be convinced he even exists with these dumb arguments in your totally real backstory? Is that a problem you often have, that someone can be talking directly to you & you don't think they exist?
2. "A successful person is anyone who is actively living in a relationship with God."
Which, if God doesn't exist, is nobody, & I would argue that if a lot of people who THINK they have a relationship with God are "living the good life," it's generally at the expense of other people. Outright scams aside, the reason mental health is such a problem for non-Christians in America is that they tend to be ostracized by Christians.
3. "Good people are altruistic."
Wow, an actually good answer that most people would agree with, at least nominally, making the Christianity aspect unnecessary.
4. "Jesus says you learn to be like this by learning from him."
I mean, so did Siddhartha Gautama, & maybe they're both right, but that doesn't mean they're gods, it just means they have good ideas. But I'm not completely sold because they had a lot of bad ideas, too. The conception of Hell & salvation by grace that most Christian apologists believe in, even if you don't, does seem to trace its way back to Jesus, at least how he's depicted in the Bible. Which raises an important point: We don't even know how much of Jesus's teachings were actually preserved since these accounts were written well after his death.
Wait, where is this meaning of life thing coming from? That was the 4 questions. Also, that meaning is stupid, & like why? An all-powerful god, by definition, does not need my help to make the world a better place. Maybe he should get off his nonexistent ass & do something for a change. Like existing. That would be something.
Hey look...it's George Santos
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
In my country, Hungary, there was a very popular king called Mathias. He has a lot of legends about him, and they were some of my favourite stories growing up. Also there was a cartoon series. No one thinks they're true. Everyone knows they're just made up. While he was a good king, he was a man. I actually read a biography of his life when I was 10. It wasn't written for children.
We can have magic in story as long as we know its just a story. Also, why don't they feed your country already so it would be "feedgary" :D
@DeconvertedMan ha! AP Report: Hungary has officially gotten enough to eat and government has split into two factions, the Full party and the Satiated party. A small third party, the Stuffed party is still napping.
@@nathanielmuller4400 Great, now we need to work on getting russia to slow down
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in TH-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
@@DeconvertedMan imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in TH-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
I is deep thinker...
Sure, whatever you want to believe 🤣🤣🤣
Wow! 51 yrs. old, 38 + yrs. believing in the Christian's mythology, a little over a decade being an non-believer, just a couple of years openly atheist. However, hearing this kid talking about how he became a believer it became my #1 REASON FOR NOT BEING A BELIEVER ANYMORE! It's amazing how all this years I've been looking for a good reason to be an atheist and that kid with his "best reasons" to believe just gave me the best reasons NOT TO BELIEVE! And to The Skep Tick, thank you for your videos, they're really great and I enjoy them!
If he ever was an atheist, it's because it was the default option, and he never had a reason to be atheist, or not to be theist.
There are indeed two sorts of atheists, one being as you suggest, the default one who has never thought about it, the other who has heard arguments and rejected them.
It seems to me that, when apologists "used to be an atheist," most are either outright making it up or they mean something more along the lines of "I was a Christian but I had some doubts." I think a sliver of them were "kinda dumb people who could reasonably be described as atheist because they grew up non-religious."
jup. no need for any knowledge of those words to be an atheist. people who dont know the concept of a God are still atheists. everyone is untill they believe a God exists
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in TH-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
@@grahvis imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in TH-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️.
oh shit, it seems i did it wrong when i played with dominos as a kid. i always thought that game had something to do with the numbers on them.
What? That’s dice though, right?
Those numbers are just decoration, I guess.
WLC and Frank Turek would be proud they are making an army of robots
Will smith will save us, right?
@@TheSkepTick He will stand up and slap them in the face.
This kid seems like exactly the kind of person who would go to my old Christian college like the campus seen in the video, become very popular with all the staff and students because of how handsome and well spoken he is. He would then be chosen to be involved with all the leadership positions like the residential staff, the baptist student ministry, and campus events. Because he is white, straight, and now Christian. He will increase in popularity and this will make it almost certain that he will never leave this bubble. Happened every year at my old Christian college. Always made me wish that I could look be accepted like them, but I certainly do not fit the mold and was never truly accepted no matter how hard I tried. Many of my closest college friends were just like this kid. None of them talk to me anymore. They are all still in the bubble.
Yes. There is a layer of materiality and superficial charm which is involved in Christianity. That we morally judge less attractive or less wealthy people as being morally flawed and deserving their hardship.
Also christian ideas of racism. Being the chosen people who have a divine right to civilize the “heathen” cultures. Their commandments to breed.
It’s all about worshipping white heterosexist power.
@Isidore Aerys well said. I was never more aware of the things that make me a minority than when I was deep in Christian culture. I often felt like a ministry project who the superior race had compassion on and allowed in their midst.
Oof that guy who deleted his comment sounded JUST like them. Here's what he said.
User: Follower of Jesus Christ
So your view of Christianity was determined by how others lived their lives and their acceptance of you? Christianity isn’t about which race has more brownie points or about acceptance by a church or a group of people, it’s a relationship with God. You can tell me I’m wrong but being a Christian doesn’t mean life will be easy for you, just a heads up.
There was a time when I rejected the multiverse idea completely. Now, I know that there are universes parallel to ours. The smallest knife in the knife block has been missing six weeks. The only possible explanation is that interdimensional pixies have created a portal to another space-time realm and have transported the knife to their home world. It's the only possible explanation for my favorite knife being gone! Logic works.
It works for socks in the dryer as well.
😂😂
@@condorboss3339 It's also what happened to the body of Jesus causing the Empty Tomb. Why the ad hoc not?
@@bradypustridactylus488 Wait!? You put the body of Jesus in the dryer?!?! 🤪
@@condorboss3339 Lol XD
He believes the universe pooft in to existence by a skygod. Much more believeble, riight.
but MAGIC is real 🤣
And, as Richard Dawkins pointed out, "What caused God?"
nothing and god is the only thing that doesn’t need a cause and they don’t realize how ridiculous that sounds.
Nothing! Cause it's defined that way! Blah blah blah, more special pleading ensues...
@@_Omega_Weapon but i thought it was "defined" as the timeless - spaceless - immaterial cause of the universe, not "that way"... :-B
@@irrelevant_noob They also don't realize by saying something "exists" means it has some location in space-time or is space-time itself. That and causation is necessarily temporal.
10:24 All I can think of now is Paulogia's "For the Bible Tells Me So" jingle
please tell me that he's going to stop quoting frank turek
As an atheist I must admit that I can't refute this guy's argument about the resurrection proving God because Jesus said so. All I can do is sit here totally bewildered that anyone can say something so unfathomably stupid and actually believe it, much less think it's a brilliant "gotcha" moment.
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in TH-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️
imagine to be a Godless and Souless western person, deny God (even if you can not prove he does not exist, especially the one who, beside your parents, created you... That is the rove you were looking for to him to exist, got it) and run anytime you see the word "Atheist" in TH-cam because you have no actually comunity and wants just follow your own feelings...
How sad is you?
At least we have God. Which you don not have.
May God bless you anyway.☺️...
Never did agree with the argument against and infinite time regress.
1. Regardless of the infinite, the present would be somewhen, ever marching forward. It wouldn't never not get here, it would just take a, possibly literally, incomprehensible amount of time.
2. This also isn't taking into account the B theory of time, where basically all moments are happening at once, and it's more or less our perception that's linear.
One of the interesting things about the big bang is in that the earliest era of the universe, the density would have been so high that there would have been extreme gravitational time dilation; the first few picoseconds would have been virtually eternal. This is disregarded in discussions because it could only have been observed from outside the universe; it would not be detectable by any means from inside.
@@condorboss3339 I'm pretty sure that's also part of the reasons the calculations keep getting thrown of at planc time.
He doesn't know the first thing about Christianity. All he can do is parrot the arguments we've heard over and over. My favorite: "And this is how we define _______" As if definitions have the magic property of making the defined thing real. By the way, I define money as an instrument of exchange only I am allowed to possess. And of course the trademark dishonesty, starting as if he's a person seeking truth and ending in preaching the same sermon we've all heard and don't buy for a second.
That is in fact not how you play dominoes
i find it interesting that he said he WAS a thinker and intelletctual befor he found god.... explains a lot :D
When a person says "I used to be an Atheist BUT now I am a Christian" I always smile. It makes me think off Christians accusing ex-Christians that became Atheistiic of not being a very devout Christian to begin with in the first place.
Listening to this boy I would accuse him of not being a very devout Atheist in the first place.🙂'
After reading that, I imagined a former agnostic being scolded, "You weren't sure enough that you weren't sure."
How does one be a devout atheist?
This was so painful.
This guy is as bright as a 2 watt bulb
So all he actually needed to believe in God was the kalam from WLC? Nah, calling BS here.
I feel like he was never an atheist. William Lane Craig's Kalam Cosmological Argument for God and Gary Habermas' Minimal Facts Argument for the resurrection word-for-word convinced him?
21:07 “No, no, not you”? 😂 I say, yes, yes, more crossovers! 😊
I've heard the "everything has a cause..." Argumentet like 200 times now but I've yet to understand how they get the "personal" part of the cause of the universe in there o0
And they conveniently ignore explaining what the cause of God's existence was.
@@taragnor nah, they say he's the uncaused cause, outside of space and time. Others call it special pleading
Wait, I think I got this before I watched the video. Did he stop being an atheist because... he wasn't one in the first place?
I guess Haley's comment is god because a whole bunch of people killed themselves over it so they could go to heaven or something.
Yes. Heaven's Gate cultists killed themselves because they thought that there was a spaceship in the tail of the comet there to take them away.
Hale-Bopp, not Haley's Comet. There'll be a different death cult waiting for 2051 to come around.
Ah yes im sure that the theist with a winged cross on his chest was a super serious totally for real inner circle atheist! 🤣
Someone should remind him that one of the laws Jesus said he definitely wasn't here to change was the one about marking your skin.
Parts of his story sound vaguely similar to mine, but I went the opposite direction. Funny, that.
Re: Kalam Argument... "It must also be a personal being" WHOA... Why?? Who says? I am willing to call whatever lit the match to cause the Big Bang, God. But it got blown up in the explosion. I don't know how the match lighter came to be nor do I know how that Big Bang Bomb came to be. Do you?
So he says he looked into other religions, but Christianity was the only one that answered all his questions. #1- maybe he didn't ask the right questions for Buddhism, or Islam, or Flying Spaghetti Monster. #2- maybe his confirmation bias led him to that conclusion. #3- maybe he didn't really spend much time researching all the religions? I choose "all the above".
wooo refreshed at a great time :D, definitely needed one of your vids today. Somebody needs to explain the numbers on dominoes to him, he thinks domino rally is their only use haha
When I tell people I'm atheist usually what I get from a lot of Christians is I'm the one that has to have faith in order to be an atheist and then I usually get some version of Romans 1:20🙄🤦🏿♂️
Should start responding with "So, faith's a bad thing, all of a sudden?"
Cons have to project, it's the only way they can pretend to understand the rest of humanity.
I do reverse Romans 1 : 20 back at them: " _You don't really know god exists, but you tell yourself you do to convince yourself_ ."
@@condorboss3339, that's why it's called "faith".
It's the PERSONAL part of his answer to the Kalam that sticks in my craw
But... but...he's an intellectual thinker! He's telling us he is, just like he's telling us other true things, so we have to believe him!
Sooo.. Mr. "ex-atheist" finds Jebus. What does he do next? Gets the instrument of his "saviors" torment and murder tattooed on his chest. Brilliant! Makes about as much sense as everything he said.
Sir Sic cameo...nice
I can't get past the being an intellectual and believing in a resurrection. How intellectual can he be to believe that someone rose from the dead. Aka something that cannot and does not happen in real life. However, funny enough, it happens in fictional story's quite often.
An early version of " _Star Trek III: The Search for Spock_ "
He knows he’s a liar and we know he’s a liar, simple as that.
now the question is does he know we know?😂
@@theflyingdutchguy9870 He don't know that we know he know we know...
This might be gate keeping atheism/ getting into a no true Scotsman fallacy, but I really have a hard time believing anyone was actually an atheist then they say they stopped being one and are now a theist
I’m with you!
Not a case of never a true atheist but never a true skeptic.
Particularly as, not only are the 'arguments' that convinced him self evident drivel, but then there's his story of going to other people and having them "accept" his five "facts" that prove jesus was god but say "Oh I'm fine with all that, the guy rose from the dead an' all, but I don't believe in any god". I don't believe that's anything other than a lie. Either that, or all the people he asked this of were actually insane.
There are 3 kinds of atheism: implicit negative atheism, explicit negative atheism, and explicit positive atheism. Implicit atheism is the kind of atheism babies would have. It's where you never gave the topic of god any significant amount of thought and thus you never formed any opinion. Explicit negative atheism is the kind that have given the topic plenty of thought but are unconvinced by the arguments. It's where we say "I don't believe you, please demonstrate your claim. Explicit positive atheism is the kind that asserts that not God or gods exist. These people actually have a burden of proof, they need to prove that no gods exist (which is impossible). Explicit positive atheism is an irrational position.
There's also the mischaracterized atheist. These are the people that incorrectly identify as an atheist when they were born and raised religious and just had a brief streak of delinquency. These people often say "I was angry at god, just like you", as they don't understand what an atheist actually is.
Anyway, I'm gonna guess that this guy either mischaracterized himself or was a implicit atheist. And I'll bet he was not convinced by the Kalam like he presented himself to be. He was probably convinced by personal experience, then tried to post hoc rationalize his beliefs and thought the Kalam looked convincing in his already convinced mind.
@@connorgrynol9021 There is an explicit positive atheism which is rational, and that's one that says that a specific, well-defined god does not exist. If that specific god is logically self-contradictory then you can safely say that that god does not exist. You may also know that a specific god has been made up, eg the Flying Spaghetti Monster, so the factual existence of that too can be explicitly denied.
"If theres an infinite number of time into the past, how can you get to today?"
You realize you can pick a finite subset from an infinite one, yeah?
Thats how counting works. This is basic stuff. 🙄
01:40 He knows elephants don't just pop into existence but thinks everything popped into existence when God did it? Consistency isn't one of his stronger attributes I see.
08:50 Jesus' resurrection story proves God? Therefore disproving other OLDER mythologies with their own resurrection stories as untrue?
17:15 God wants to have a relationship with us? Pretty sure in this story I heard he did that before and then a whole lot of people and animals drowned.
“….they say…” ‘Nuff said. Dude woke up from a two year long frat party bender wondering how he got those tats. Was helped to get sober by some new “friends.” They said,….
And in the words of the late, great Paul Harvey, “Now you know the rest the story!”
Jesus: In order to be a good person you have to do as I say
Also Jesus: be good to your slave masters.
Also Also Jesus: Lie like a muh'fucker, as long as it gets those bills, yo.
Technically jesus didnt say that, he only said he wouldnt change a tile of the law... which includes how much you could beat your slaves becasue they were your property.
This clown certainly is making my day, i really need this laugh.
I seriously doubt he was ever an atheist, he may not have been a practitioner or devout but he was always a believer, no one who actually study these arguments with a clear mind becomes convinced they’re true unless already biased.
This guy's been reading too much William Lane Craig.
He left out the most important thing that's necessary to become a Christian. A willingness to donate a large chunk of your income to the pastor of your choice.
That only happens in a small number of small Christian-based religions, and the donations are to the Church and accountable for maintenance and charity. None of it goes to the pastor (or equiv.)
The ones that actually do give a large portion, and directly to the pastor are all American .. make of that what you will.
@@Kyrelel True. You can also be religious without going to a church. You can even be a theist without practicing the religion at all.
If you do go to church, peer pressure can be a real pain, though! Hoo boy.
Or for the instant apologist cred for being a "converted" from Atheism. That really drives the donations to your minor TH-cam channel.
"For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."
@@IkarusKommt Huh?
If these weak arguments convinced him, he's gullible as hell
Let's check back in with this guy once a month to see how his tattoo removal will be going.
Otherwise, he doesn't really believe in Jesus, and he hasn't read Jesus' words.
He should have become a muslim. Clearly, god cannot become man.
Plato????? But... has he graduated from Play Dough yet??? 🤔
Always interesting when they just assert "... and personal" as if that is what their argument leads to. They invariably go on to show they do not know what the big bang says.
He just re-invent the gods like the hunter gatherers did millenniums ago: "I don't know, therefore supreme beings"... and "luckily" to him, a cult at the corner of the street had a pre-chewed answer to fill his lack of reasoning.
Very liberal use of the word 'fact' in this poor apologetics.
I see William Lane Craig's tired talking points have filtered down to the kids...