Installing a hidden kill switch is the best protection. Even better, had a friend wired up his starter through the high beam. Car would not start unless you switch on the high beam. No thief would ever think of doing that!! With a bit of creativity, possibilities are endless here.
I think the biggest concern is that he can get a key codes from the VIN number. I would say this is the manufacturer flaws and they should be liable or change it. My suggestion is to get your dealership to change the key codes that is different from the car VIN numbers.
I’ve been contemplating exactly that, but have been concerned about how a hidden kill switch would affect/ interact with modern computer management systems.
@@ChoirFan1 Don't mess with the computer just do a direct kill switch to your starter motor or fuel pump.. your car will just think its faulty until you switch it off.
That is bloody scary! It's funny how car manufacturers have made it easier & convenient for the consumer (i.e. keyless entry, proximity fobs, etc., but in the end, it's just made it easier for thieves too!
I think the biggest concern is that he can get a key code from the VIN number. I would say this is the manufacturer flaws and they should be liable or change it.
If cars are stolen, then the naive consumer will buy a new one, so in the end manufactures will gain more and more money! And this applies in every product especially smartphones!
Adding a kill switch is a method I have used in the past and it is very hard to bypass unless you suspect one has been added. Also, the kill switch can be in the starter circuit or the ignition circuit or both. A previous comment above about using the high beam circuit in the starter relay is a genius idea.
Everything that is added by yourself might be bypassed too. But to diagnose the problem will take that much time that any professional car thief will look for a other victim.
@@johannriedlberger4390 I agree with your first sentence about stuff being able to be bypassed. If you can find a great hiding spot for the switch that is difficult to get to & impossible to see without dismantling the interior your on a good start. Then if the wires you use under the bonnet/hood blend in or are inside other wires covering, you have a great kill system.
@@gonegolding There are endless possibilities to hide a switch. Whit an micro controller (for example an arduino) you can use existing switches in the car that have to be activated and deactivated in a special sequence. For example: press the brake pedal 2 times and then turning light left before you can start the car. Even more nasty is, if the car starts without this sequence but then runs only a few seconds. That scares away any potential car thief.
Not really a genius idea because if you decided to use your high beam than your car will be dead or accidentally hit it sometime when I do the signal light.
Being a follower of the LockPickingLawyer, I'm not surprised by this. The locksmithing profession is stuck in the past. Most locks actually have security flaws known for decades, and yet the profession refuses to innovate. They choose to keep these flaws secrete, claiming that consumers are safer when these flaws are not generally known.
@@scotts4125 No, exactly. I totally agree... And to pick a door lock is 3 times as hard as on a bench. But car-locks, it is more of an extra cost to make 'em better. That is not what you buy, buying a new one, it is what you get (with your car).
There’s a lot to be said for my dad’s old Statesman with the V8. It was so loud you couldn’t start it without it rocking the entire house. It used to vibrate. Mother never got used it - each time he started it up, she was startled by the noise. 😂
Always get an OBD port high security lock fitted professionally and this will stop this type of theft , also you can cut out your OBD port and fit random sized bullet connectors to the wires on the car and your removed OBD and keep it safe in your house , then if ever you need it for maintenance you can simply plug all the corresponding wires back together to use it , this method is by far the best deterrent and is quite a cheap security fix... 👍
Security lock is simplest for most people. Cutting the port is pretty radical, but I can see why you might want to this for an exotic. The OBD port is the only effective way of dealing with this 👍
Back in like 1975, my sisters boyfriend in college had his car stolen. It was a 1967 Ford Fairlane, an old, seen better days, common everyday car. Why somebody wanted it, it's hard to imagine
Surely there's good ways to secure a car apart from a club lock? A video on the best modern methods of deterring potential car thieves or preventing a vehical break in would be of great value.
I think the biggest concern is that he can get a key codes from the VIN number. I would say this is the manufacturer flaws and they should be liable or change it. My suggestion is to get your dealership to change the key codes that is different from the car VIN numbers.
Proximity sensing keys are becoming more common here in the UK and "remote" theft is an issue. Someone stands outside your house with a booster that mimics the key it can sense inside the house then relays that to the car. No need to break in, cut a key or fiddle with the obd port. Cheap fix for this is a RF blocking pouch or box to put the keys in.
You're always thinking outside the square and being innovative. You've tested headlights, showed us digital mirrors, etc. I predict you'll hit 500k subs before too long, you're a legend 😎 Well done on being imaginative 👍💪☺️
Great video guys. I had a CG8 WRX back in the day and apparently it was the most stolen car at that time. After my first one was (you guessed it) stolen, I sold it after it was found and recovered. Then I purchased another one, this time with a pin code that I need to enter before I can start the engine.
@@__PJ__ The young criminals are digitally advanced, but they may lack the skills of an old school lockpicker... even for an easily defeated device of a clublock. If it is not "plug and play" and push some buttons, they don't know what to do.
Just an FYI, there's an old school trick for defeating a steering wheel lock. The thief buys a can of refrigerant (also known as air conditioning refill cans), sprays it on the steel portion, then smashes the frozen steel with a hammer. In USA, cars with the absolute worst security are Kia/Hyundai/Genesis and any Stellantis/FCA (Fiat Chrysler Automobiles). There are news stories on the internet about car thieves literally stealing these cars from dealerships or even right from the factory. Unsecured, unattended bicycles have better security. It's ridiculous. Thanks for the video! Subscribed! I really like the hidden kill switch ideas but best of all, I own an old-school car without keyless entry. My 1988 BMW 750iL doesn't have keyless entry and I only have one key. No OBD II port to hack either. Gotta love these old school cars.
This crossed my mind when we bought a new Dacia. One of the options was keyless entry & starting, or a REAL metal key that goes into a keyhole and was a bit cheaper. Guess which one I opted for! No hiding fobs in biscuit tins for me, thank you very much!
Scotty Kilmer recommends yanking a control module under the hood, say for fuel delivery or ignition. The perp would have to open the hood and have spare modules that could be plugged in.
No matter what security is put into a car, there will always be a way to get through it but the most important thing is how long it takes. That's why you need layers, get through one, now you have another issue and another and another meanwhile cops have arrived.
Some years ago my house was broken into to get the car keys and then the car was stolen from the garage. The car had a cat 5 Tracker on it and the police found it within 20 minutes of it being reported. The car was returned, with a bit of damage, which was easily repaired.
Buying a manual car tends to ward off thieves as well, and having an aftermarket horn system that sounds like that of a diesel locomotive (and is almost as loud) means that the alarm is VERY loud, very prominent, and very much impossible to inconspicuously deal with. Also, it’s a very fast way to get the person in front of you to get off their bloody phone after the light has been green for a bit but they haven’t set off. I know this as I put some myself. Driving a funeral coach has its benefits, I’ve found, one of them being that thieves are far too afraid to incur the wrath of the sort of person who drives such a vehicle to attempt to steal it. Psychology plays quite a hefty factor in such matters, it seems; for example, which seems like a more formidable vehicle: a little hatchback that looks as if one could carry it away with a few mates with ease, or a large diesel 4x4 with a bull bar and a message on the mudguards?
My car has a anti theft device specifically aimed at teenagers… it’s a MANUAL!🤪🤣 Having said that yeah pretty damn scary Paul! I had my beautiful EH Premier stolen back in the day. Only time I’d left it parked on the street without its club lock on. But one thing I have never done, is leave the keys in plain sight! Beats me why people do?… 😔
Yep , a friend of mine had his Holden Colorado Ute stolen this way a while ago . Despite it being parked near floodlights , under a camera and behind a security fence they just cut down the fence , got into the ute , disabled the alarm in under 2 minutes them had the ute running in another 30 seconds by plugging in a laptop and were driving it away in a total time of less than 4 minutes . His Colorado was found several weeks later in a chop shop striped of its drive train ( engine , gearbox and diffs ) plus electronics ( ECU ) and some panels . Police who raided the chop shop told him his Colorado was probably targeted by the thieves as the drive train is highly sought after in the middle east and therefore was probably stolen to order . His insurance wrote off his Colorado and he has since bought a new Isuzu D Max Ute and has some enhanced security features that require no computer access and can’t be disabled unless you know where they are / what they are and know to what to do .
Yep I wired in a kill switch that works to disable the starter relay. The switch is not obvious and does not impact any canbus system or stop other systems working with accessories on.
What they need to do is register those devices. As soon as a new key is registered it logs the device user and the vin of the car back to a central location. If that car is reported stolen, they can check that database
@@CarExpertAus yep, and they certainly could do a system where the devices used are digitally signed by a trusted authority. Manufacturers would then embed a list of trusted authorities (Ie like a ca cert) into the cars software. Anyone trying to use software not digitally signed by a trusted authority will just not work.
My suggestion is to get the dealership to change your key codes different from the VIN numbers, as you can see in the video the locksmith just enter the VIN numbers to get the key codes.
Here in the States that's exactly what they're doing. On 23+ gm vehicles you have to go through GM's website that is only accessable with a VSP credential and it was a huge pain in the ass getting all that set up and pretty soon I believe most key programmers will require that VSP credential to access the immo's on any car. The manufacturers are starting to lock it down so only legit business with good standing and have had background checks on anyone using these tools can access the immobilizer systems to program new keys. Sure someone will find a work around I'm sure but they're making it harder.
I think the biggest concern is that he can get a key code from the VIN number. I would say this is the manufacturer flaws and they should be liable or change it.
Thieves breaking into your car shouldn't be your biggest concern. Their ability to start your car should be your biggest concern. If they can't start your car, they can't steal it. That's what you should focus on preventing.
Really interesting to see how easy this is! On the topic of key combinations, a lot of industrial equipment, e.g. excavators, bobcats etc still mostly use the same key and so the possibility to steal thousands of pieces of machinery is quite easy once you have that pattern. A lot of owners of these pieces of equipment like this now utilise other means of immobilising the vehicles via onboard internet connected devices which require remote authorisation (think of it like multi-factor auth for internet banking) making it harder to steal the equipment with just a key. I would imagine in the future this will become more common in consumer vehicles once some of the logistical problems around connectivity are solved.
@@CarExpertAus I think the biggest concern is that he can get a key codes from the VIN number. I would say this is the manufacturer flaws and they should be liable or change it. My suggestion is to get the dealership to change the key codes that is different from what you get using car VIN numbers.
Hi Paul, hmmm as a Locksmith myself I can maybe shed a little light on a few things. While it is possible to obtain decoding tools and picks from many unscrupulous websites, having the skills to use them correctly is generally not something that is developed easily. Also the programming tool used on the video (Smart pro by Advanced diagnostics) sells at about $5000 plus ad ons and the machine to cut the keys to code like a Silca Futura will set you back about $25,000 and will only be sold in this country by an authorized dealer and to an authorized recipient, ontop of this you have yearly subscriptions for software $$$. Generally most key codes are only obtainable through dealerships and should require the owners identification to be obtained, while there certainly the wrong sort out there stealing cars and some maybe using these tools, but speaking from my own experience just about every car theft I've seen over the last 15 years in the trade has been from the keys being stolen or the keys being left in an unlocked vehicle
We didn't mention this in the video - but both the key cutter and the computer used on the OBD port can be bought as much cheaper Chinese alternatives. We were made aware of devices that are about a fifth of the cost that perform similar functions. Ultimately, somebody that's doing this illegally will have means to obtain these devices on the black market and won't likely be paying full price regardless.
@@CarExpertAus you are correct, there are cheap Chinese alternatives out there, and I think that will make for a good video. Go and buy these cheap alternatives picks, decoders, diagnostic programmers and a laser key cutting machine, and give them to literally any person who isn't a trained locksmith
Retired Locksmith here Mark. You have said in your posting, pretty much what I was going to say. Up here if Far North Qld, 95% of car thefts are done by youths gaining entry through unlocked doors, keys in plain sight, sitting on the kitchen bench. The main tool (when needed) used to gain entry to a house is a large flat head screwdriver or a set of stillsons. There might be a miniscule group of 'intelligent' organised criminals working for a city based crime gang, who might be able to access Locksmithing equipment on the black market, but they wouldn't be interested in pinching a Hyundai i30 or a Kluger, LoL. As shown in Pauls video, the youths doing the burglary, are indicative of 95% of all breakins and joy riding car thefts' in North Qld. It's out of control up here these days.
If you looked at the video closely and what car expert says, he just used the car VIN number to get the key codes and this is the biggest concern and the manufacturer should replace it as this is a flaws by the manufacturer.
Authentication and access control at the ODB port would solve this problem instantly. Obviously presents a number of challenges for legitimate work to be carried out, but that's the nature of making things secure -- finding the balance between usability and security. Right now, it seems very skewed in the direction of usability.
The problem is it’s easy to eventually crack - the Hyundai had a pin code, which was reverse engineered shortly after it went on sale. Until you can apply remote updates to advance the security it’s hard to stay on top of it.
Videos like this just provide yet more confirmation that your best anti-theft device is a good insurance policy. If someone wants your car, you'd have to be a fool to try and get in between them. Just look at the poor victim of the carjacking at gunpoint in Fawkner over the weekend - had they resisted, could have been much worse.
A good insurance is great until they refuse to insure your car, this is happening right now in the UK with Range Rovers. That many stolen that many insurance companies won’t have anything to do with them and the ones that will are asking silly money….try £10000 GBP per year and higher in some cases. The motor industry in general need to own this problem, if you can put fingerprint and facial recognition on a phone, why not a car and don’t allow a new identity to be added until the owner has been given a code via their mobile or an email.
I'm a RAA PATROL MAN i have to break into vehicles as a job known as a LOCKOUT these tools need to be mandatory for all of us that work in this industry! ALSO I've had a bike and car stolen and never been recovered
I have added a ghost immobiliser and I dont have a problem now, as I know that they can start the car, but they can not drive it unless you use the code before you drive it
9:46 in 2015 i met a guy in dubai who told me about a car stealing network where a warehouse was being used in abu dhabi i think it was. they raided a place in los angeles and while it was happening a guy called the place in abu dhabi and those guys managed to clear out the warehouse before it was raided. also got away with everything from that part of the network. told me it was a worldwide thing. they steal cars and move them internationally to clients to be registered again in their home countries. this conversation came from me stating that the cars that are left around dubai including its airports from a downturn in work for foreign expats basically losing their jobs and taking their clothes and going back home, driving the lease car or whatever to the airport of just leaving it underneath at the car park of their apartment and cars getting covered in sand and dust not doing anything. its an eye sore and i felt maybe there is a business in cleaning them up. a company that has tow trucks and either scraps the cars or resells them somehow. i run one of those 2nd steering wheel locks 10:36 for my TTRS as well as air bag suspension (slammed with tucked fitment, take the hand controller out with me so they can't raise the car, front wheels are tucked into the guards so it can only drive in a straight line unless they take the front side panels off) and an OBD port lock. this year will add a syvecs stand alone ECU and they have valet mode and a pass code for the ECU to actually work in the first place.
One interesting idea would be to introduce two-factor authentication. It would sort of be a pain to have to put a code into your phone to start your car, but that would make it a LOT harder I would imagine.
Well done mate - This is why I love your channel... And this is scary... and best way to prevent this from happening- Use Mr Bean style... Remove the damn steering wheel...
And then mount it on the roof with a sofa, so that thieves would have to pack any sense of self preservation to attempt to drive off in it, in keeping with the Mr Bean theme.
Such an informative video! My father always asks me to park my car inside our home. I usually tell him that it's ok or I would do it later because in my mind even if someone's able to break in, how will they drive away when I have the proximity key? This video opened my eyes. Thank you so much!
Thanks to you and the locksmith for this detailed report. I hear most nx lexus cars are being stolen in Canada and exported to West Africa where it's sold at 50% markup. Thanks again for suggesting the manual clamp for the steering. Though inconvenient for the owner, it should help prevent theft.
The security systems from the manufacturers are all compromised. There is no incentive for manufacturers to prevent theft. Theft just increases sales. The only systems that work are unconventional home brew units that no-one else knows. Put a 360degree passive on the roof lining and it triggers even if they break a window. Immobilizer that allows start but then cuts ignition every ten milliseconds for ten seconds and then cuts out, resets after a minute. Vehicle starts to move but then misfires wont run properly and then cuts out. They leave it right there and run. Hidden bonnet release. Pepper gas under, or electric energiser in the drivers seat. There are many ways to discourage theft.
This is why mechanical locks are the future and what thieves no longer expect. First, keep your key in faraday pouch when not in use. Second, get a permanent OBD port blocker. Third, get a steering wheel lock with loud pager alarm. These locks are designed to fit over the spokes specifically so steering wheel cutting makes no difference. Besides towing, this should be enough of a deterrent to 95% of thieves. If you really want you can add a secondary alarm to the factory alarm, if you do that, make sure it's using its own dedicated key fob not the car OEM one, and it's something not expected much nowadays either. A second immobiliser can never hurt. If you have an older car, simply get a Ravelco. Get a hood lock for those cars. If you want to go crazy, get a paging alarm, wheel lock, ravelco, obd port blocker and faraday pouch. If they still get it then it was meant to be LOL. BTW, security tint can never hurt as these guys get in through the windows 95% of the time. With security film your alarm will be going on a lot longer than 10 seconds as it will take them a few minutes to get in. I don't mean ordinary tint, I mean security tint.
Great and informative, and more than a little concerning! Ultimately if they want it, they'll find a way to take it, but that doesn't mean you make it easy for them. I keep my keys in an empty metal coffee tin which is an effective and very cheap Faraday cage. Good to see Alborz got the F-Pace back too, but his lawn needs a bit of work... 😂
I think the biggest concern is that he can get a key codes from the VIN number. I would say this is the manufacturer flaws and they should be liable or change it. My suggestion is to get your dealership to change the key codes that is different from the car VIN numbers.
The most disturbing part about all this is that it seems the newer your car is, the easier it is to steal. Also a fun fact, despite NSW having a much larger population, Victoria and Queensland have almost twice the amount of car thefts than NSW.
Thanks for the video. Also, cars with keyless entry and ignition systems can be at risk from theft using simple devices available online. I use a Faraday pouch to keep my keys in. No matter how good the anti-theft system of your vehicle is, if the signal can be replicated or amplified, your car could be stolen. Just a thought. This has been happening to cars in the UK.
I think the biggest concern is that he can get a key code from the VIN number. I would say this is the manufacturer flaws and they should be liable or change it.
On a humorous note. Washing my ford everest which has "touch door handles to unlock", , with smart key in pocket. 2m away from car, with hose sprayed car down, when water hit the door handle, car unlocked. Tested 3 times (after locking).
Can we turn our older Toyotas with push button start into short range by removing battery from fob, using the key to unlock the doors then tapping the (battery-less) fob onto the start button? Locking the doors manually upon leaving. I guess if that worked then they would have to cut a physical key or break the key lock or a window and crawl in which would sound the alarm. After entry they would have to reprogram the car so the car would really have to be worth it to steal.
There is a simple and extremely effective way of stopping car thefts. I install a hidden fuel pump switch in the car. When activated the car may start, but it won’t get any further than a 100m or so and stop. Hot wiring it will not work! It really does work!
If your worried about your car being stolen,,,,just unplug your map and maf sensors ,It only takes about 10 seconds to do,,also a faraday pouch for your keyand it can not be replicated,,,The faraday pouch are only 5 dollars..
Very good content once again Car Expert. This is an eye opener. Like they say you can never stop a theif, you can only slow them down. With suitable time they will find a way to take what they want.
I knew a guy in 1972 who had about 20-odd standard Holden keys on a keyring. One of them WILL open your 60-70's Holden. It seems we haven't progressed. A relative used to wrap a huge chain around the pedals and steering - an effective visual warning. Cleverly hidden kill switches and fuel cut-offs seem to deter the majority. The fact you can program cars today is a major flaw. You have to disable the damned ODB port.
If your car is worth keeping - various devices after market from pin lockers to process locks that you have to turn on features in car in a certain order - eg indicator radio light - or it locks car - I used to have porsche had also a second porsche key that was a ruse - (left in plain site) real key well hidden - ruse key that if used it locked the car and shut it down - and I also switched off remote locking sensor -
I've revisited this video Paul, because of the sheer number of urchins stealing cars for joy rides nowadays. They are likely opportunist sneak theives like your boss encountered. I'd like to see a cellular tracking device that can be tracked but also on command turn on the hazard lights and/or cut out the engine or at least put the vehicle into limp mode. I can't understand why the insurance industry for one is not educating car owners to be more security conscious!
Pulling the fuel pump fuse also another low tech layer of security, if it isn't too hard to get to. I doubt thieves would bother spending the time to figure this out.
@@CarExpertAus some cars have it under the bonnet and some have it inside the dash, either way it only takes like 20 seconds to do so its not a bad idea
Mate had HZ premier with a push button replay switch to the fuel pump under the carpet, impossible to start without fuel and you will never start the car unless you know where the switch is.
Thanks for showing the vulnerability - but I’m more concerned with doing what I can to prevent this happening.. but it doesn’t sound like I can do anything? Which is the problem.
Back in the day, FJ Holden's only had 6 combinations on the keys making ii fairly common to open another car with another key. Update to the present and Freightliner trucks can sometimes be unlocked by another key.
Back in the early 80’s my sister had an FJ ute, myself an EH Premier. One day she’d blocked my car in & had gone for the day with her friends. On a whim, I tried my EH key & it worked! After that I then tried a small screw driver & yep that worked!🤣
I also think it would be a good idea to show people (without the details!) how easy it is for thieves to steal your car with keyless entry by using the scanner device? PS: A metal tin or even foil will do the same job a faraday pouch.
About 30 years ago my HQ Monaro coupe was stolen using a screw driver to open the door and hack the ignition. I got it back 2 days later as it was abandon near Dandenong police station. The funny thing is I purchased a new door lock and ignition lock and my original key could open both straight out of their boxes..
Great video mate! Finally someone who provides real street info. Unfortunately the police are not very good as they mostly come after the crisis has happened, they are very big after a crime has happened but almost non existant re prevention. Your video was amazing, keep.up the good work.
Great video paul, have you ever thought about doing a video about lang lang and its history, it’d be great for overseas followers I remeber reading somewhere that when first commodore dame here from germany it literally fell aparat at testing grounds German engineers flew over and couldnt believe how we tested cars it was like 200% more then what they have done in europe testing it for their conditions Love your work, keep it up 👌👌
@@CarExpertAusas a former Holden employee at the Lang Lang proving ground for 14 years I can tell you that Vinfast is desperate for anyone to use that facility if you paid them as they can't sell it for anything like what they paid for it. All this history had been documented in several Holden books that have been published over the years.
My Toyota Hilux was stolen in England then ended up in Kenya almost 3 months later, my new Hilux has a Shadow immobiliser. Trackers aren’t very useful if car goes into a shipping container
Trouble with cars is they are standardised. So anything the manufacturer does to improve security is almost immediately bypassed as they've work it out. Best to de-standardise your car. Get a Auto electrician to add a kill switch, inhibit the OBD2 plug, snap off a key in the lock. All pretty simple stuff but you can never make your car thief proof just more difficult to steal than your neighbours.
Super easy install hidden micro toggle switches that control power or ground for your engine ECM or TCM units .The car will never start or shift into gear
I agree old school kill switch, I wonder if it would be possible to install a dye pack so any attempt to start the car if the kill switch is on the thief gets a face full of unfashionable dye
My son had a second immobiliser fitted in-line with the factory system. If they 'bumped' the factory system they then had 10 seconds to, a) work out why the engine won't start, b) find the second immobiliser put in the correct PIN and start the engine all before the vehicle lit up and alarm went off. I guess if you really value what you have (take out the $dollar factor) then its worth thinking smarter...
I'm from South Africa and three things you should always do with your car to reduce the risk of having it stolen as well as reduce the loss if it is. Get a good quality tracker installed in it by a professional and sign up with a reputable security company that can respond if it is stolen/hijacked. Always park your car inside a garage or behind a security gate at your home, this means the potential car thief needs to get through both your home security and the car security to steal the car. Always have the car insured and make sure to take the package that includes coverage for theft and damage by vandalism. Then, as a final tip: Don't leave any valuables (cellphone, laptop, jewelry, cash or firearms) in open, plain view in the car, ever (even while you are inside/driving the car). Crime likely isn't as bad in your country so some of these might seem overkill, but these are the basic rules of survival in South Africa. Also check local stats of which cars are frequently stolen as well as which cars are the most popular in your country, and then try to steer clear of owning those. This is because the criminals steal those cars either because the tools needed to steal them are common or readily available which means it's easier to steal, or they target those cars specifically as the criminals are planning on using the car in a different, more serious, crime and having a popular car makes them blend in better and stops law enforcement being able to identify them by licence plate. So, by this logic, a rare exotic car with a vibrant colour scheme is actually a good thing if you don't want it stolen. Go out and buy that pink lamborghini if all you needed was a good reason.
The problem with the club locks is that thieves started bypassing them by either cutting through the lock or worse, the steering wheel, meaning when you get it back you have to replace the wheel. The advantage of using a club though is that it is a theft deterrent, so it will increase the likelihood that the thieves will move onto a different vehicle.
Installing a hidden kill switch is the best protection. Even better, had a friend wired up his starter through the high beam. Car would not start unless you switch on the high beam. No thief would ever think of doing that!! With a bit of creativity, possibilities are endless here.
I think the biggest concern is that he can get a key codes from the VIN number. I would say this is the manufacturer flaws and they should be liable or change it. My suggestion is to get your dealership to change the key codes that is different from the car VIN numbers.
Yup, the hidden toggle switch will get them !
I’ve been contemplating exactly that, but have been concerned about how a hidden kill switch would affect/ interact with modern computer management systems.
@@ChoirFan1 Don't mess with the computer just do a direct kill switch to your starter motor or fuel pump.. your car will just think its faulty until you switch it off.
Interesting, how did he do that? 😁
That is bloody scary! It's funny how car manufacturers have made it easier & convenient for the consumer (i.e. keyless entry, proximity fobs, etc., but in the end, it's just made it easier for thieves too!
Not really, the key on the Hyundai was easier to start than the proximity on the Toyota.
Agreed! Two steps forwards, one step backwards.
They didn't make it easier. The problem is the companies releasing information without checks.
I think the biggest concern is that he can get a key code from the VIN number. I would say this is the manufacturer flaws and they should be liable or change it.
If cars are stolen, then the naive consumer will buy a new one, so in the end manufactures will gain more and more money! And this applies in every product especially smartphones!
Adding a kill switch is a method I have used in the past and it is very hard to bypass unless you suspect one has been added. Also, the kill switch can be in the starter circuit or the ignition circuit or both. A previous comment above about using the high beam circuit in the starter relay is a genius idea.
Everything that is added by yourself might be bypassed too. But to diagnose the problem will take that much time that any professional car thief will look for a other victim.
@@johannriedlberger4390 I agree with your first sentence about stuff being able to be bypassed. If you can find a great hiding spot for the switch that is difficult to get to & impossible to see without dismantling the interior your on a good start. Then if the wires you use under the bonnet/hood blend in or are inside other wires covering, you have a great kill system.
@@gonegolding There are endless possibilities to hide a switch. Whit an micro controller (for example an arduino) you can use existing switches in the car that have to be activated and deactivated in a special sequence. For example: press the brake pedal 2 times and then turning light left before you can start the car. Even more nasty is, if the car starts without this sequence but then runs only a few seconds. That scares away any potential car thief.
The old Vauxhall Cavillers wouldn’t start if wire pulled off windscreen wiper motor
Not really a genius idea because if you decided to use your high beam than your car will be dead or accidentally hit it sometime when I do the signal light.
So much for modern tech. Old school solutions are your only option!!
True!
Being a follower of the LockPickingLawyer, I'm not surprised by this. The locksmithing profession is stuck in the past. Most locks actually have security flaws known for decades, and yet the profession refuses to innovate. They choose to keep these flaws secrete, claiming that consumers are safer when these flaws are not generally known.
It’s a tough one to get around. I’ll have to check them out too :-)
Locksmiths have nothing to do with how manufacturers make and design locks. We just work on them.
@@scotts4125 No, exactly. I totally agree...
And to pick a door lock is 3 times as hard as on a bench. But car-locks, it is more of an extra cost to make 'em better. That is not what you buy, buying a new one, it is what you get (with your car).
@@kimnilsson7501As an automotive only locksmith we 100% bypass car door locks to open them.
There’s a lot to be said for my dad’s old Statesman with the V8. It was so loud you couldn’t start it without it rocking the entire house. It used to vibrate. Mother never got used it - each time he started it up, she was startled by the noise. 😂
Always get an OBD port high security lock fitted professionally and this will stop this type of theft , also you can cut out your OBD port and fit random sized bullet connectors to the wires on the car and your removed OBD and keep it safe in your house , then if ever you need it for maintenance you can simply plug all the corresponding wires back together to use it , this method is by far the best deterrent and is quite a cheap security fix... 👍
Security lock is simplest for most people. Cutting the port is pretty radical, but I can see why you might want to this for an exotic. The OBD port is the only effective way of dealing with this 👍
Back in like 1975, my sisters boyfriend in college had his car stolen. It was a 1967 Ford Fairlane, an old, seen better days, common everyday car. Why somebody wanted it, it's hard to imagine
Surely there's good ways to secure a car apart from a club lock? A video on the best modern methods of deterring potential car thieves or preventing a vehical break in would be of great value.
Good thinking!
I think the biggest concern is that he can get a key codes from the VIN number. I would say this is the manufacturer flaws and they should be liable or change it. My suggestion is to get your dealership to change the key codes that is different from the car VIN numbers.
It's called a car alarm
@@jessehardin8500 Or a garage a hungry dog and a baseball bat !
There's a Killswitch that you connect to your batter negative that has a remote. Only bad thing is all your presets will be reset
Proximity sensing keys are becoming more common here in the UK and "remote" theft is an issue. Someone stands outside your house with a booster that mimics the key it can sense inside the house then relays that to the car. No need to break in, cut a key or fiddle with the obd port. Cheap fix for this is a RF blocking pouch or box to put the keys in.
Some alfoil in the drawer to rest the key in works a treat.
Get a car with a proper key!
This isn't possible. It's not rfid. Single use keys (electronic codes) completely thwart this method. Maybe on some cars older than 20 years.
You're always thinking outside the square and being innovative. You've tested headlights, showed us digital mirrors, etc. I predict you'll hit 500k subs before too long, you're a legend 😎 Well done on being imaginative 👍💪☺️
Great video guys.
I had a CG8 WRX back in the day and apparently it was the most stolen car at that time. After my first one was (you guessed it) stolen, I sold it after it was found and recovered.
Then I purchased another one, this time with a pin code that I need to enter before I can start the engine.
I reckon the old school clublock would also confuse these gen z thieves !
@@__PJ__ The young criminals are digitally advanced, but they may lack the skills of an old school lockpicker... even for an easily defeated device of a clublock. If it is not "plug and play" and push some buttons, they don't know what to do.
@@onespeedlite Yup, ill stick with my kill switches and tilt sensors with separate alarm and backup battery on the old girl ;)
@@__PJ__Remember when all you had to do was take the rotor button out.😄
@@TC-yx2ss Yup fiddle with the dizzy and she isn't going anywhere !
This is why car expert is so good, not just car review but also interesting facts like this! Great work Paul!
Just an FYI, there's an old school trick for defeating a steering wheel lock. The thief buys a can of refrigerant (also known as air conditioning refill cans), sprays it on the steel portion, then smashes the frozen steel with a hammer. In USA, cars with the absolute worst security are Kia/Hyundai/Genesis and any Stellantis/FCA (Fiat Chrysler Automobiles). There are news stories on the internet about car thieves literally stealing these cars from dealerships or even right from the factory. Unsecured, unattended bicycles have better security. It's ridiculous. Thanks for the video! Subscribed!
I really like the hidden kill switch ideas but best of all, I own an old-school car without keyless entry. My 1988 BMW 750iL doesn't have keyless entry and I only have one key. No OBD II port to hack either. Gotta love these old school cars.
×smashes window & then hotwires car gone in 60 seconds×
I thought I was on the wrong channel for a second and wondered what I'd done for TH-cam's algorithm to start suggesting how to steal a car video
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This crossed my mind when we bought a new Dacia. One of the options was keyless entry & starting, or a REAL metal key that goes into a keyhole and was a bit cheaper. Guess which one I opted for! No hiding fobs in biscuit tins for me, thank you very much!
Wow! That's floored me.
Slightly tongue in cheek, but a manual gearbox would confuse a significant number of thieves these days...
maybe in Aus and the US but not so much in Europe!
Don't think so. Lots can drive manual
Unless your car is modded with twin plate clutches, an oem clutch is damn easy to drive
Scotty Kilmer recommends yanking a control module under the hood, say for fuel delivery or ignition. The perp would have to open the hood and have spare modules that could be plugged in.
Very nice video . Re route your OBD reader and install a dummy one in place . Then , install a kill switch . The is the best in my opinion
Another comment mentioned installing an inverter, 240 volts straight to the fake obd.
Someone stole my Prius while I was shopping today. I always thought it would be too much of a hassle for thefts to make a dummy fob but they did it!
No matter what security is put into a car, there will always be a way to get through it but the most important thing is how long it takes. That's why you need layers, get through one, now you have another issue and another and another meanwhile cops have arrived.
Yep if ur car is wanted they will steal it
Some years ago my house was broken into to get the car keys and then the car was stolen from the garage. The car had a cat 5 Tracker on it and the police found it within 20 minutes of it being reported. The car was returned, with a bit of damage, which was easily repaired.
You know they dont have thieves in countries where they cut off their hands.
Buying a manual car tends to ward off thieves as well, and having an aftermarket horn system that sounds like that of a diesel locomotive (and is almost as loud) means that the alarm is VERY loud, very prominent, and very much impossible to inconspicuously deal with. Also, it’s a very fast way to get the person in front of you to get off their bloody phone after the light has been green for a bit but they haven’t set off. I know this as I put some myself.
Driving a funeral coach has its benefits, I’ve found, one of them being that thieves are far too afraid to incur the wrath of the sort of person who drives such a vehicle to attempt to steal it. Psychology plays quite a hefty factor in such matters, it seems; for example, which seems like a more formidable vehicle: a little hatchback that looks as if one could carry it away with a few mates with ease, or a large diesel 4x4 with a bull bar and a message on the mudguards?
My car has a anti theft device specifically aimed at teenagers… it’s a MANUAL!🤪🤣 Having said that yeah pretty damn scary Paul! I had my beautiful EH Premier stolen back in the day. Only time I’d left it parked on the street without its club lock on. But one thing I have never done, is leave the keys in plain sight! Beats me why people do?… 😔
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I have two anti theft devices on mine - a manual gearbox and a Renault badge :)
@@froggy0162 2 for 2 right there!🤣🙌🏻 You must be French “Froggy”. I mean you own a Renault! Qui?
@@andrewd7586 Nope, very much an Aussie. Just a slightly masochistic one ;)
@@froggy0162 🤪🤪
Yep , a friend of mine had his Holden Colorado Ute stolen this way a while ago .
Despite it being parked near floodlights , under a camera and behind a security fence they just cut down the fence , got into the ute , disabled the alarm in under 2 minutes them had the ute running in another 30 seconds by plugging in a laptop and were driving it away in a total time of less than 4 minutes .
His Colorado was found several weeks later in a chop shop striped of its drive train ( engine , gearbox and diffs ) plus electronics ( ECU ) and some panels .
Police who raided the chop shop told him his Colorado was probably targeted by the thieves as the drive train is highly sought after in the middle east and therefore was probably stolen to order .
His insurance wrote off his Colorado and he has since bought a new Isuzu D Max Ute and has some enhanced security features that require no computer access and can’t be disabled unless you know where they are / what they are and know to what to do .
Yep I wired in a kill switch that works to disable the starter relay. The switch is not obvious and does not impact any canbus system or stop other systems working with accessories on.
What they need to do is register those devices. As soon as a new key is registered it logs the device user and the vin of the car back to a central location. If that car is reported stolen, they can check that database
I like that idea.
@@CarExpertAus yep, and they certainly could do a system where the devices used are digitally signed by a trusted authority. Manufacturers would then embed a list of trusted authorities (Ie like a ca cert) into the cars software. Anyone trying to use software not digitally signed by a trusted authority will just not work.
My suggestion is to get the dealership to change your key codes different from the VIN numbers, as you can see in the video the locksmith just enter the VIN numbers to get the key codes.
How can you do it? @@cjsc6025
Here in the States that's exactly what they're doing. On 23+ gm vehicles you have to go through GM's website that is only accessable with a VSP credential and it was a huge pain in the ass getting all that set up and pretty soon I believe most key programmers will require that VSP credential to access the immo's on any car. The manufacturers are starting to lock it down so only legit business with good standing and have had background checks on anyone using these tools can access the immobilizer systems to program new keys. Sure someone will find a work around I'm sure but they're making it harder.
I think the biggest concern is that he can get a key code from the VIN number. I would say this is the manufacturer flaws and they should be liable or change it.
I think you are supposed to provide proof of ownership to get a key from vin here in Australia.
Thieves breaking into your car shouldn't be your biggest concern. Their ability to start your car should be your biggest concern. If they can't start your car, they can't steal it. That's what you should focus on preventing.
Never revealing my VIN on the internet again
@@onespeedlite if using the VIN can cut a copy of your FOB, they can start your car and drive away.
@@cjsc6025 Having a key does not guarantee you can start the car. A kill switch can prevent that.
Really interesting to see how easy this is!
On the topic of key combinations, a lot of industrial equipment, e.g. excavators, bobcats etc still mostly use the same key and so the possibility to steal thousands of pieces of machinery is quite easy once you have that pattern.
A lot of owners of these pieces of equipment like this now utilise other means of immobilising the vehicles via onboard internet connected devices which require remote authorisation (think of it like multi-factor auth for internet banking) making it harder to steal the equipment with just a key. I would imagine in the future this will become more common in consumer vehicles once some of the logistical problems around connectivity are solved.
It's interesting - I think ultimately keys will disappear and make way for this new style of authentication style with cloud-based devices.
@@CarExpertAus I think the biggest concern is that he can get a key codes from the VIN number. I would say this is the manufacturer flaws and they should be liable or change it. My suggestion is to get the dealership to change the key codes that is different from what you get using car VIN numbers.
Aye and the crooks will catch up in whiz time, while there’s a customer,there’s a thief
But you can use the post hole borer and some concrete if you catch them.
Hi Paul, hmmm as a Locksmith myself I can maybe shed a little light on a few things.
While it is possible to obtain decoding tools and picks from many unscrupulous websites, having the skills to use them correctly is generally not something that is developed easily. Also the programming tool used on the video (Smart pro by Advanced diagnostics) sells at about $5000 plus ad ons and the machine to cut the keys to code like a Silca Futura will set you back about $25,000 and will only be sold in this country by an authorized dealer and to an authorized recipient, ontop of this you have yearly subscriptions for software $$$.
Generally most key codes are only obtainable through dealerships and should require the owners identification to be obtained, while there certainly the wrong sort out there stealing cars and some maybe using these tools, but speaking from my own experience just about every car theft I've seen over the last 15 years in the trade has been from the keys being stolen or the keys being left in an unlocked vehicle
So true ... Please take note!
We didn't mention this in the video - but both the key cutter and the computer used on the OBD port can be bought as much cheaper Chinese alternatives. We were made aware of devices that are about a fifth of the cost that perform similar functions. Ultimately, somebody that's doing this illegally will have means to obtain these devices on the black market and won't likely be paying full price regardless.
@@CarExpertAus you are correct, there are cheap Chinese alternatives out there, and I think that will make for a good video.
Go and buy these cheap alternatives picks, decoders, diagnostic programmers and a laser key cutting machine, and give them to literally any person who isn't a trained locksmith
Retired Locksmith here Mark. You have said in your posting, pretty much what I was going to say. Up here if Far North Qld, 95% of car thefts are done by youths gaining entry through unlocked doors, keys in plain sight, sitting on the kitchen bench. The main tool (when needed) used to gain entry to a house is a large flat head screwdriver or a set of stillsons. There might be a miniscule group of 'intelligent' organised criminals working for a city based crime gang, who might be able to access Locksmithing equipment on the black market, but they wouldn't be interested in pinching a Hyundai i30 or a Kluger, LoL. As shown in Pauls video, the youths doing the burglary, are indicative of 95% of all breakins and joy riding car thefts' in North Qld. It's out of control up here these days.
If you looked at the video closely and what car expert says, he just used the car VIN number to get the key codes and this is the biggest concern and the manufacturer should replace it as this is a flaws by the manufacturer.
Thanks, anxiety of leaving my i30n perked on the street was already high lol.
Authentication and access control at the ODB port would solve this problem instantly. Obviously presents a number of challenges for legitimate work to be carried out, but that's the nature of making things secure -- finding the balance between usability and security. Right now, it seems very skewed in the direction of usability.
The problem is it’s easy to eventually crack - the Hyundai had a pin code, which was reverse engineered shortly after it went on sale. Until you can apply remote updates to advance the security it’s hard to stay on top of it.
Videos like this just provide yet more confirmation that your best anti-theft device is a good insurance policy. If someone wants your car, you'd have to be a fool to try and get in between them. Just look at the poor victim of the carjacking at gunpoint in Fawkner over the weekend - had they resisted, could have been much worse.
Very true.
Was that the bike guy that got shot in his Merc GWagon?
A good insurance is great until they refuse to insure your car, this is happening right now in the UK with Range Rovers. That many stolen that many insurance companies won’t have anything to do with them and the ones that will are asking silly money….try £10000 GBP per year and higher in some cases.
The motor industry in general need to own this problem, if you can put fingerprint and facial recognition on a phone, why not a car and don’t allow a new identity to be added until the owner has been given a code via their mobile or an email.
I'm a RAA PATROL MAN i have to break into vehicles as a job known as a LOCKOUT these tools need to be mandatory for all of us that work in this industry! ALSO I've had a bike and car stolen and never been recovered
The good ol’ club lock is timeless
Who would have thought?!
I've had a clublock on my 2012 hsv for 2 years ever since a friend of mine had his car stolen.
Can't beat old school sometimes
They come off in seconds by using a bolt cutter on the steering wheel. Mere seconds.
Dude they just take a hacksaw to your steering wheel. Comes right off
@@andrewb8017 let him be naive
I have added a ghost immobiliser and I dont have a problem now, as I know that they can start the car, but they can not drive it unless you use the code before you drive it
9:46 in 2015 i met a guy in dubai who told me about a car stealing network where a warehouse was being used in abu dhabi i think it was. they raided a place in los angeles and while it was happening a guy called the place in abu dhabi and those guys managed to clear out the warehouse before it was raided. also got away with everything from that part of the network. told me it was a worldwide thing. they steal cars and move them internationally to clients to be registered again in their home countries.
this conversation came from me stating that the cars that are left around dubai including its airports from a downturn in work for foreign expats basically losing their jobs and taking their clothes and going back home, driving the lease car or whatever to the airport of just leaving it underneath at the car park of their apartment and cars getting covered in sand and dust not doing anything. its an eye sore and i felt maybe there is a business in cleaning them up. a company that has tow trucks and either scraps the cars or resells them somehow.
i run one of those 2nd steering wheel locks 10:36 for my TTRS as well as air bag suspension (slammed with tucked fitment, take the hand controller out with me so they can't raise the car, front wheels are tucked into the guards so it can only drive in a straight line unless they take the front side panels off) and an OBD port lock. this year will add a syvecs stand alone ECU and they have valet mode and a pass code for the ECU to actually work in the first place.
One interesting idea would be to introduce two-factor authentication. It would sort of be a pain to have to put a code into your phone to start your car, but that would make it a LOT harder I would imagine.
Car Alarm Going Off - lol, I have not done anything about a car alarm going off since 1982
Well done mate - This is why I love your channel... And this is scary... and best way to prevent this from happening- Use Mr Bean style... Remove the damn steering wheel...
Glad you enjoyed it!
And then mount it on the roof with a sofa, so that thieves would have to pack any sense of self preservation to attempt to drive off in it, in keeping with the Mr Bean theme.
Such an informative video!
My father always asks me to park my car inside our home. I usually tell him that it's ok or I would do it later because in my mind even if someone's able to break in, how will they drive away when I have the proximity key? This video opened my eyes. Thank you so much!
Thanks for watching!
Inside the home? 😳 Ferris Bueller says hi 🤪
@@steveedmond9362 I just searched for that term and it turns out to be a movie. I'm sorry I have never watched it.
Thanks to you and the locksmith for this detailed report. I hear most nx lexus cars are being stolen in Canada and exported to West Africa where it's sold at 50% markup. Thanks again for suggesting the manual clamp for the steering. Though inconvenient for the owner, it should help prevent theft.
thieves will just cut through the wheel with a battery angle grinder..
@@petesmitt Sheesh😅
Now I know where kids learn how to steal cars.
The security systems from the manufacturers are all compromised. There is no incentive for manufacturers to prevent theft. Theft just increases sales. The only systems that work are unconventional home brew units that no-one else knows. Put a 360degree passive on the roof lining and it triggers even if they break a window. Immobilizer that allows start but then cuts ignition every ten milliseconds for ten seconds and then cuts out, resets after a minute. Vehicle starts to move but then misfires wont run properly and then cuts out. They leave it right there and run. Hidden bonnet release. Pepper gas under, or electric energiser in the drivers seat. There are many ways to discourage theft.
Club lock. That brings back memories. It's retro now.
This is why mechanical locks are the future and what thieves no longer expect. First, keep your key in faraday pouch when not in use.
Second, get a permanent OBD port blocker. Third, get a steering wheel lock with loud pager alarm. These locks are designed to fit over the spokes specifically so steering wheel cutting makes no difference. Besides towing, this should be enough of a deterrent to 95% of thieves. If you really want you can add a secondary alarm to the factory alarm, if you do that, make sure it's using its own dedicated key fob not the car OEM one, and it's something not expected much nowadays either. A second immobiliser can never hurt.
If you have an older car, simply get a Ravelco.
Get a hood lock for those cars.
If you want to go crazy, get a paging alarm, wheel lock, ravelco, obd port blocker and faraday pouch. If they still get it then it was meant to be LOL.
BTW, security tint can never hurt as these guys get in through the windows 95% of the time. With security film your alarm will be going on a lot longer than 10 seconds as it will take them a few minutes to get in. I don't mean ordinary tint, I mean security tint.
Great and informative, and more than a little concerning! Ultimately if they want it, they'll find a way to take it, but that doesn't mean you make it easy for them. I keep my keys in an empty metal coffee tin which is an effective and very cheap Faraday cage. Good to see Alborz got the F-Pace back too, but his lawn needs a bit of work... 😂
It was just after his house was built. I can confirm it looks nice now 😂
I think the biggest concern is that he can get a key codes from the VIN number. I would say this is the manufacturer flaws and they should be liable or change it. My suggestion is to get your dealership to change the key codes that is different from the car VIN numbers.
No matter what you steal, if you don't get caught, then you earned it and it was worth the risk.
So when does that end?
You have not Earned anthing you have stolen you are a theif.
@@brjplummer9415 You ever tried to steal a car? It is very hard work. But well worth the reward.
The most disturbing part about all this is that it seems the newer your car is, the easier it is to steal.
Also a fun fact, despite NSW having a much larger population, Victoria and Queensland have almost twice the amount of car thefts than NSW.
Because price of housing in Sydney drove the gypsies and housos north and south....
Thanks for the video. Also, cars with keyless entry and ignition systems can be at risk from theft using simple devices available online. I use a Faraday pouch to keep my keys in. No matter how good the anti-theft system of your vehicle is, if the signal can be replicated or amplified, your car could be stolen. Just a thought. This has been happening to cars in the UK.
Great point! Definitely worth investing in a faraday bag.
I think the biggest concern is that he can get a key code from the VIN number. I would say this is the manufacturer flaws and they should be liable or change it.
It's like the old saying , "a lock only keeps the honest out" .
True!
On a humorous note.
Washing my ford everest which has "touch door handles to unlock", , with smart key in pocket.
2m away from car, with hose sprayed car down, when water hit the door handle, car unlocked.
Tested 3 times (after locking).
oh noooo
Can we turn our older Toyotas with push button start into short range by removing battery from fob, using the key to unlock the doors then tapping the (battery-less) fob onto the start button? Locking the doors manually upon leaving. I guess if that worked then they would have to cut a physical key or break the key lock or a window and crawl in which would sound the alarm. After entry they would have to reprogram the car so the car would really have to be worth it to steal.
These type of thefts are rare. Almost all stolen cars are with the keys. Next are the use of repeaters for keyless ignition.
Very interesting. Wow, I would have thought security would have been more secure than that
HaHa! Old school we used to remove the distributor rotor, now you just need an manually operated power isolator, easy peasy! Old Skool rules 👍🏿
There is a simple and extremely effective way of stopping car thefts. I install a hidden fuel pump switch in the car. When activated the car may start, but it won’t get any further than a 100m or so and stop. Hot wiring it will not work! It really does work!
i have my F pace almost 5 years now and i still have it - insurance went up by 49.4% this year as in a high crime area
If your worried about your car being stolen,,,,just unplug your map and maf sensors ,It only takes about 10 seconds to do,,also a faraday pouch for your keyand it can not be replicated,,,The faraday pouch are only 5 dollars..
Very good content once again Car Expert. This is an eye opener. Like they say you can never stop a theif, you can only slow them down. With suitable time they will find a way to take what they want.
I knew a guy in 1972 who had about 20-odd standard Holden keys on a keyring. One of them WILL open your 60-70's Holden. It seems we haven't progressed. A relative used to wrap a huge chain around the pedals and steering - an effective visual warning. Cleverly hidden kill switches and fuel cut-offs seem to deter the majority. The fact you can program cars today is a major flaw. You have to disable the damned ODB port.
The old school wheel steering lock does the job 👌
Just buy a manual, you'll be fine!!
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Definitely correct
@@ulyredeyehellcat874 Bruh
@@VesterV learned to drive a manual when I was 12 already new the basics so it was easy
If your car is worth keeping - various devices after market from pin lockers to process locks that you have to turn on features in car in a certain order - eg indicator radio light - or it locks car - I used to have porsche had also a second porsche key that was a ruse - (left in plain site) real key well hidden - ruse key that if used it locked the car and shut it down - and I also switched off remote locking sensor -
I've revisited this video Paul, because of the sheer number of urchins stealing cars for joy rides nowadays. They are likely opportunist sneak theives like your boss encountered. I'd like to see a cellular tracking device that can be tracked but also on command turn on the hazard lights and/or cut out the engine or at least put the vehicle into limp mode. I can't understand why the insurance industry for one is not educating car owners to be more security conscious!
Pulling the fuel pump fuse also another low tech layer of security, if it isn't too hard to get to. I doubt thieves would bother spending the time to figure this out.
I like that - is it typically easy to access from the driver's seat? May not be a bad idea.
@@CarExpertAus some cars have it under the bonnet and some have it inside the dash, either way it only takes like 20 seconds to do so its not a bad idea
Mate had HZ premier with a push button replay switch to the fuel pump under the carpet, impossible to start without fuel and you will never start the car unless you know where the switch is.
@@CarExpertAus my Swift has those fuses in the side, drivers footwell. Me being 60 y.o. means a lot of bending so not a fan 😱🤯
Yep. Hidden switch disabling the fuel pump.
Hey thanks for including the Toyota Kulger I really love that car
Thanks for showing the vulnerability - but I’m more concerned with doing what I can to prevent this happening.. but it doesn’t sound like I can do anything? Which is the problem.
Back in the day, FJ Holden's only had 6 combinations on the keys making ii fairly common to open another car with another key. Update to the present and Freightliner trucks can sometimes be unlocked by another key.
Back in the early 80’s my sister had an FJ ute, myself an EH Premier. One day she’d blocked my car in & had gone for the day with her friends. On a whim, I tried my EH key & it worked! After that I then tried a small screw driver & yep that worked!🤣
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Good to know if a child is locked in, there's no need to break a window. Amazing article
Very true!
I also think it would be a good idea to show people (without the details!) how easy it is for thieves to steal your car with keyless entry by using the scanner device?
PS: A metal tin or even foil will do the same job a faraday pouch.
I put my keys in an empty potato chip packet which is foil lined.
Would a ghost immobiliser protect the car from thieves using an obd code reader ?
About 30 years ago my HQ Monaro coupe was stolen using a screw driver to open the door and hack the ignition. I got it back 2 days later as it was abandon near Dandenong police station. The funny thing is I purchased a new door lock and ignition lock and my original key could open both straight out of their boxes..
waaat.
Is ghost 2 immobilizer good enough to protect the car?
Are old school steering wheel locks any help😮
Is it possible to add a finger print secure on the start systems. Thanks very interesting
Great video mate! Finally someone who provides real street info. Unfortunately the police are not very good as they mostly come after the crisis has happened, they are very big after a crime has happened but almost non existant re prevention. Your video was amazing, keep.up the good work.
Can you drive with your key phob in the farady case?
I'd be surprised if there are only two BMWs in Australia with the same key code.
Do you no when second hand car prices will drop back to normal in Australia would like to hear your opinion P.S grate video
The car industry is not interested in car security, if cars were secure it would impact on insurance claims and the sale of more cars
Imagine having a trip to Dubai and see a Victorian plate car on the road
I know, right!
Stolen cars shipped abroad do go somewhere?
You can lock the OBD port. Another way is to shift the location of the OBD and fit dummy OBD port for USD20.
Great video paul, have you ever thought about doing a video about lang lang and its history, it’d be great for overseas followers
I remeber reading somewhere that when first commodore dame here from germany it literally fell aparat at testing grounds
German engineers flew over and couldnt believe how we tested cars it was like 200% more then what they have done in europe testing it for their conditions
Love your work, keep it up 👌👌
Would love to! Not sure if the new owners are interested in talking about it though. Maybe one day!
@@CarExpertAusas a former Holden employee at the Lang Lang proving ground for 14 years I can tell you that Vinfast is desperate for anyone to use that facility if you paid them as they can't sell it for anything like what they paid for it. All this history had been documented in several Holden books that have been published over the years.
brilliant idea
I can't thank you enough, theres a newish sexy looking Cadilliac cts-v across town i've been eying, made me stumble apon this video. Much love
My Toyota Hilux was stolen in England then ended up in Kenya almost 3 months later, my new Hilux has a Shadow immobiliser. Trackers aren’t very useful if car goes into a shipping container
a couple of grand for half an hours work and a hundred dollar key/fob, I's say the dealer is the real thief
Trouble with cars is they are standardised. So anything the manufacturer does to improve security is almost immediately bypassed as they've work it out. Best to de-standardise your car. Get a Auto electrician to add a kill switch, inhibit the OBD2 plug, snap off a key in the lock. All pretty simple stuff but you can never make your car thief proof just more difficult to steal than your neighbours.
I have a 2way pager aftermarket car alarm with motion sensor. So when my alarm is on i know because my pager fob goes crazy. 👀
with old cars it was in less then 5 sec
So its still an inprovement ;-)
Super easy install hidden micro toggle switches that control power or ground for your engine ECM or TCM units .The car will never start or shift into gear
I agree old school kill switch, I wonder if it would be possible to install a dye pack so any attempt to start the car if the kill switch is on the thief gets a face full of unfashionable dye
A great video - what a conversation starter.
This is so crazy by car manufacturers. OBD ports able to overwrite security features.
There should be a pin set by the owner for those ports
My son had a second immobiliser fitted in-line with the factory system. If they 'bumped' the factory system they then had 10 seconds to, a) work out why the engine won't start, b) find the second immobiliser put in the correct PIN and start the engine all before the vehicle lit up and alarm went off. I guess if you really value what you have (take out the $dollar factor) then its worth thinking smarter...
I'm from South Africa and three things you should always do with your car to reduce the risk of having it stolen as well as reduce the loss if it is. Get a good quality tracker installed in it by a professional and sign up with a reputable security company that can respond if it is stolen/hijacked. Always park your car inside a garage or behind a security gate at your home, this means the potential car thief needs to get through both your home security and the car security to steal the car. Always have the car insured and make sure to take the package that includes coverage for theft and damage by vandalism. Then, as a final tip: Don't leave any valuables (cellphone, laptop, jewelry, cash or firearms) in open, plain view in the car, ever (even while you are inside/driving the car). Crime likely isn't as bad in your country so some of these might seem overkill, but these are the basic rules of survival in South Africa. Also check local stats of which cars are frequently stolen as well as which cars are the most popular in your country, and then try to steer clear of owning those. This is because the criminals steal those cars either because the tools needed to steal them are common or readily available which means it's easier to steal, or they target those cars specifically as the criminals are planning on using the car in a different, more serious, crime and having a popular car makes them blend in better and stops law enforcement being able to identify them by licence plate. So, by this logic, a rare exotic car with a vibrant colour scheme is actually a good thing if you don't want it stolen. Go out and buy that pink lamborghini if all you needed was a good reason.
Remove the obd2 port and have a different plug instead and keep an obd2 port loom at home or somewhere in the car that isn't easy to find.
love how CCTV just films the crime in action.
The problem with the club locks is that thieves started bypassing them by either cutting through the lock or worse, the steering wheel, meaning when you get it back you have to replace the wheel. The advantage of using a club though is that it is a theft deterrent, so it will increase the likelihood that the thieves will move onto a different vehicle.