Rattling Stabilizer - Is GREASE the ONLY fix? Try this instead! Epsi, Holee, Band-aid Wrap!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Welcome to Keybored! Today, we're going to fix a Rattling Stabilizer! We're not going to load it up with Grease, but using an alternative method such as the Epsi, Holee and even the Band-Aid Wrap mod!
NOTE: I ended up taking down the original and uploading a new version! I stated that Holee mod was similar to the Epsi and just skipped over the tutorial... but they really aren't the same... so I added in footage for the Holee to do it justice! Also, added in the credits to the originators in the video itself :)
Over the course to time, the one keyboard mod that was always a pain to me was getting the stabilizer done correctly. Once done correct, it was a thing of beauty, but when not, it was a rattling mess.
Typically, us in the keyboard world take bunch of Krytox or Permatex dielectric grease, and load up the stem insides to prevent the stem from rattling inside it. This might work for a while, but requires regular maintenance to have it function right, and more often times than not, end up with a sticky, messy goop on your keyboard.
So, try something different, and actually better!
Full disclaimer, I am not the originator of these mods. See below for credits to the originators!
Epsi - Credit to Epsilon
• Guide and Explanation ...
Holee - Credit to Tet
• Holee bandaid stab mod...
Timeline
Stock Stabilizer Sound Test - 2:20
Epsi-Mod Tutorial - 2:45
Epsi-Mod Sound Test - 10:19
Holee-Mod Tutorial - 11:12
Holee-Mod Sound Test - 14:31
Command Mod Sound Test - 15:15
Bar End Wrap Mod Tutorial - 15:52
Bar End Wrap Mod Sound Test - 17:40
Conclusion - 18:18
Keyboard in the video
KBDFANS D65 - E-White / Brass Plate
Durock POM Switches - Lubed Krytox 205G0
Durock V2 Stabilizers - Holee Mod
GMK Hennessey Keycaps with Yellow Accents
Links to products used in video
Durock V2 Stabilizers
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Tweezers
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Prong Tool / Holder
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Krytox Lube
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Shot on Sony A7 III + Sony FE35mm F1.8 and Fifine Condenser Mic
Sony A7 III
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Sony FE35mm F1.8
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Fifine Condenser Mic
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Hi Everyone! I had to re-upload this tutorial to provide some more detail as well as provide credits! Hope V2 is better!
oooh! thanks for clarifying. Holee-mod looks like it will last longer however lower half has no band-aid? hybrid holee and epsi perhaps?
I thought this was the other video mentioned in the end 🙃
Very cool of you, tbh!
Cant get the spacebar to be straight ugh!!
love it love it
Why do the smallest creators always have the best content? you deserve way more subs.
Bc they care about getting new people to watch their vids more than the amount of views a clickbait title can get
Thank you for the comments Thewafen! I really appreciate it!
@@ninjabieber7695 true
Because thry haven't used up their creativity yet
@@ninjabieber7695 AMEN!
2:17 - Stock sound test
2:45 - Epsi Mod
10:20 - Epsi Mod Sound Test
11:11 - Holee Mod
14:30 - Holee Mod Sound Test
15:10 - Command Strip Sound Test
15:50 - Bar End Wrap
17:40 - Bar End Wrap Sound Test
18:20 - Final Thoughts
Hope this helps :D
Thank you England PJ! I appreciate it!
@@Keybored You better have typed with this keyboard.
Yes, this is exactly what everyone needs! 🖤
Thanks for the time stamp!
thx man
For the 4:15 epsi mod, if you do this without dielectric grease, the foam will wear down and the tape that is left will start making a squeaking noise. The wear down time is also very short considering it started squeaking in about a day
Great advice! I ended up using Krytox 205 for everything!
Thanks for spending time to test out various methods and showing us how to do it in such detail! I'm definitely going to refer back to this video when I'm building a new keyboard! Learning so much from this channel.
No problem Matt! I hope the content is helpful and the information can make your next build even better!
Reuploading to provide more detail and proper credit to other creators. Now that’s a reupload I’m happy to watch again 💛
Thanks Jaeyou! I appreciate the sentiment and support... I should have done it from the start to avoid the re-upload... :( lesson learned for next time!
@@Keybored out of all of this, which one is your favourite?
I had almost gave up on my spacebar. It had a ticking that I just couldnt get rid of. It was driving me insane. I had tried, clipping, greasing, wire balancing, etc. And the holee mod finally did the trick. thank you so so much. youve earned a loyal subscriber
Thank you so much for the sub Soistice Jp! I really appreciate it, and I'm glad to hear that one of the mods helped out! I haven't been able to find enough to pump out as much videos as possible, but I do have some additional helpful hints and tips I hope I can share with you in the future!
@@Keybored you vids are really high quality and I cant wait to watch more! keep pumping out that content!!
Stock spacebar: 2:30
Epsi mod spacebar: 10:29
Holee mod spacebar: 14:43
Bar end wrap spacebar: 17:49
Holee mod is the best
Thanks for that. Your links go DIRECTLY to the parts we want to hear, not to the delicate tapping. Allows immediate back-and-forth comparison of all four sounds! 👍
Woah, bro, are we cousins?
@@DudeMcGuybro bro lol
Cool that the bar end mod gave it a slightly different sound signature
All these different mods yield such unique results! It's an interesting hobby indeed!
Honestly I think you deserve many more subscribers than you have. Your quality is really really good and you have interesting and helpful content.
Just keep doing what you're doing and you'll be famous!
Thank you so much Oskar! I really appreciate it! I'll keep working at it!
@@Keybored I'll be taking a look at your progress later on !
bandaid wrap is my go to when i really dont feel like soaking and scrubbing inserts clean with dish soap for 30 minutes, only to put the bandaids in them to find out they wont stick
Yup! It's so much easier!
That's a really thorough comparison!
The tutorial turned out great, I really appreciate in-depth content like this.
Glad it was helpful!
THANK YOU SO MUCH! I have been dealing with the annoying tapping rattle for ages and have asked around on forums but never found a good solution. Did the Holee mod and my keyboard sounds AMAAAAZING now! Fantastic video
:) I'm so glad it worked out!
I loved the Bar-End method dude!
It takes a few tries to get the thickness perfect, but I feel like once you do, it'll be the longest lasting one. Once I had the bandaid on there, it was a huge pain to rip it off, since it was wound so tight around it :)
@@Keybored I personally do the bar end method and then wrap it with some teflon tape/plumber's tape and then a thick layer of grease. Works great for me and the teflon works surprisingly well.
@@Keybored if u use medical tape or cloth bandaid wraping it once will make a perfect fit
omg finally someone who has popular stabilizers, and actually fixes a problem without just saying "add more lube"
One mod I've found that works wonders is applying micropore tan surgical tape on the ends of the stabilizer, like the band-aid mod here. All I do is apply a thin sheet of it, so it only covers the top of the bar. It has the perfect thickness for all of the stabs I've used. Alternatively, you could wrap the entire end - that was overkill for me, it made the stabs sluggish
Wdym the end of the stabilizer? You mean the end of the wire? Top of the bar? Like 2mm, 3mm?
Dude, I did the Band-aid wrap for now because I just ordered lube but it worked like magic, rattle is gone just like that. But I'll still be doing the Holee method once my Krytox arrives.
This video really needs to get more views. Cheers mate!
Cheers! Glad it worked out!
Appreciate the commitment to quality on this channel, Scott! I had the notification and was busy at the time, so I missed the original, but it sounds like you've done what you thought was best!
Thank you SHCTeva! I put the video up, and it didn't feel right with some information missing and making a wrong call out. I lost the views I received on the original, but at the end of the day, I think it was worth it to make sure that I feel good about the content that I am sharing :)
Great video! I’ve been trying the holee mod for a little while and didn’t have a good video to go off of. Keep up the great work man!
Thank you so much ShadowKeys65! I appreciate the comments :) I hope the content was helpful!
Thanks a ton I spent months trying to fix the owl lab stabs that come with the QK65 with the holee mod not really working for me (too mush and reduced travel), then I discovered your vid covering the epsi mod that fixed the travel feel and rattle.
I think the issue with these methods is longevity. The metal bar is constantly in contact with the band-aid/fabric. Which means friction, fraying resulting in a hole.
The fabric pads are very, very thin and aren't gonna last very long compared to lube, which you can just apply them when it dries out.
I agree with you xoox! I think for longevity, the bar end wrap will last longer
@@Keybored it might be too thick, but have you considered a bit of thin heatshrink tube on the bar ends?
@@tobymarol7329 rama suggested that in one of their tutorials, but it fails miserably for a lot of people
I modded my stabs for like 3 hours today, used multiple types even and my God. It just didn't stop with all the rattling. I even had to heat up my spacebar and straighten it a little more in the end. I am definitely done with custom keebs for a while now. It is absolutely painful every single time. I don't even get how some people online talk about keyboard modding as if it's some zen-like therapeutic thing to do. It drives me absolutely crazy every single time.
great tricks. It's possible to improve even more in the Epsi one : you cut the whole strip from the leftover black pad, but you could leave it attached to the bigger piece and just cut slits and then only remove the black pads from them. That way you don't even have to bother with removing the 3M film from 1-2mm small pieces, you would just take the black bits, they would be the exact same size you made them here, but easier to detach grab.. faster job cleaner job ! btw I'm not really into keyboards, but this peaks my interest, made me realize my space bar is rattling (I use a cooler master mk750). if anyone have advices on how I could make it feel better, I'm all listening haha. Have a nice day
Thanks for the great advice DancinStyles! If your cooler master is soldered switch type, then without desoldering the entire thing, the easiest way to fix that rattle is by grabbing some dielectric grease, and shoving some into the stabilizer stem hole :)
when you heat up heatshrink tube you can pull it to stretch it thinner 20% or more. then complete heat shrinking, this might help you fit the hit shrink into the stab housing.
That's good advice! I haven't tried that so I should look into it in the future!
I tried Holee mod on my cheap a$$ keyboard, thought it won't change much, but boy.. I was so wrong, the rattle now completely gone just like in the vid. thx so much for the tutorial!
I'm glad it worked out great! :)
It seems that wrapping the bar method should be the best because it adds extra filling between the bar and the sidewalls of the stem. I think optimal material would be some kind of felt but I don't know any product that would be thin enough.
This is by far the best how-to keyboard stab video on TH-cam!
Thank you Legchopper! I appreciate the comment! :)
Really nice video - also love it when ppl give other creators credit. Subbed!
Hey guys. If you're new and dont't have hotswap or a solder iron, you can just use some cotton balls and chuck it in there with a tweezer. Its the same deal, but the cotton may take some finessing to get it to stay in place You just need to get some cushioning for the wire and the stem. It's not gonna look pretty but nobody's gonna peek at your stabs. Hope i helped. I got rid of the tick noises without desoldering a single switch. My stabs were cherry plate mounts
Definitely great advice! That sounds like it'll work great in a pinch!
I've heard about this, and apparently, the cotton balls will eventually slide off with repeated use. So, it's probably just a short term solution.
This is quality. Thanks for doing a direct comparison of these stab mods!
You're very welcome Chris! Hope it was useful!
same keyboard, same board, same stabs... you're a god sent... subscribed!
Thank you so much for the sub Mark! I appreciate the support!
I would just like to say that painters tape can also be used instead of a bandaid for the holee mod. You just need to put a little bit of lube on it because of the texture
Thank you for the great suggestion!
Really appreciate this! Best video i have found on the Holee mod, so definitely trying it now that i know how it works
I'm glad it was helpful! I appreciate the comments!
Thank you so much for this video! I’m building my first keyboard and was so discouraged tonight when I tried to install my stabilizers and got some AWFUL rattle that ruined my space bar sound! Will pick up some bandages to holee mod tomorrow, and am feeling lots more confident after watching such a straightforward tutorial. Thanks again! 💖💖
I hope it works out! Make sure to really thoroughly clean the stems if they already have grease or lube in it! Otherwise the bandaid won't stick and/or will fall out very quickly!
Thanks for reuploading this, i was wondering why the holee mod wasnt shown in detail lol. Gonna build my first keyboard really soon, an xd84 and the epsi or holee mod looks promising. Saving this video for when the build day comes!:D
No problem! I just kind of skipped over it saying it's similar to epsi... But didn't feel right about that afterwards... So decided to fix it
most underrated creator no cap
:) Thank you so much! I really appreciate the support!
you know what I realized, People who have great gaming keyboards and setups on youtube get free stuff from stores. so basically rich people get expensive things for free, I'm not trying to hate on tech Keybored because I love them but sometimes I wish companies would send me free stuff lol
:) it's an interesting world we live in lol
they have those cuz they worked for it lol
don’t cry they earned it
Your content is incredible. It's nice to watch a video and not squint when looking at small intricate parts through my monitor. Your production is great!
Now, my $0.02. I've never understood all of these crazy stab mods. I've always built with Durock V1/V2 and use strictly 205g0 and have never had rattle. On occasion, I'll use a syringe and inject some in trouble areas, but that's it. Any type of band aid mod always gives me a mushy feel. And holee modding leaves me wondering if there's going to be issues down the road.
This Epsi mod is especially concerning due to the fact that grease will eventually get on or near that double sided tape, thus potentially causing it to shift and 'gunk' up the stab stems. I guess we'll see what happens in the coming months/years and see if these mods hold up. Just something that I've never really understood.
Anyway, keep up the good work!
:) Thank you so much Phil! Yeah, with these new mods, longevity will be the big question. I guess time will tell!
Instead of the bandaid for the wrapping the wire ends, I use thin plumbers tape since if it's too thin you can always wrap more.
Hi prilosecular! Another viewer mentioned that as well! I may give the teflon tape a try in the future!
How does it hold against the lube over time? I assume it performs well since it's plumbers tape! Another good idea I might have to test out!
You can also use cooper tape instead of bandaid for the mod in the end of the video, i taped the wired with double layer of cooper and the thickness of the wired come from 1.6mm to 1.7mm and it pretty good for me though :D
I've never heard of Cooper tape, but I will look it up now!
@@Keybored i do know about that tape but i neva thinking about using it in this circumstances lol, i learned from this guy, but he used only 1 layer in his video, with 2 layer, the thickness will up to 1.7mm and it is more stable, just try out and you will see, it will be fun i think :D th-cam.com/video/zQBxG4TWP8w/w-d-xo.html
That sounds like a good idea. Did you lube it as well? I think I want to try this mod in my future build!
These intros are pure gold
Holy mod with band aid wrap??
your hands are remarkably steady
Thank you Layarion! :) I guess a lot of practice!
i'm so much of a keyboard novice that i even made up a very tacky fix that i did to my keyboard.
what i did was i put a shit ton of patafix / bluetack / tack all (basically like play dough, but much more dense and heavy. and is not greasy)
i put so much on my backspace, enter and spacebar that i think it's too heavy for the rattle to have an effect on the keys. it's very easy.
it works and my keyboard sound amazing, atleast for my newbie ears. it's enough for me i guess. but there's no such thing as enough bluetack.
hope this helps.
Hey, if it works, it works!
6:25 You can use old stem if you first de-grease it. Basically lots of pure enough alcohol is required so solvent the grease away.
I bought my first mech keyboard because of your channel, and the only thing that disappointed me were the super rattily spacebar. I did the bar-end mod and its perfect!!!!
So glad it worked out! Welcome to the hobby and the rabbit hole! Don't get sucked in too deep! :)
@@Keybored i got sucked in too deep :((((((( lol just kidding i just bought a varmilo keyboard, solder iron and lube and did a few mods
the bar end method really saved me! thank you so much.
Not a problem! Glad it worked out!
Holee mod in my opinion is a life saver, I have yet to have a keyboard that has bad stabs thanks to the holee mod
Yup! I go back and forth from Holee to bar end. Holee on fresh stabs and bar-end on used ones, since it's such a pain to get all the grease out of a used stem lol.
Scott, great video. This video was the introduction for me to your channel and I love the content you have and so I have subscribed. If I may have a request, I would love to know more about the different mounting styles of keyboards. I have been looking for a new board but have been overwhelmed with the different keyboards that exist and I was wondering if you could do a compare and contrast video to help explain the different types. Thanks for your awesome work - keep it up!!!
Thabk you so much for the sub Kyle! I really appreciate it! In terms of the mounting styles, I'll look into what I can do! I may have most styles to leverage, but probably missing a few less utilized and more rare mounting types. Lately, it seems like most keyboard manufacturers are going with gasket mount. That tends to provide a more dampened typing experience and sound. However, most styles can feel and sound really nice, given the right type of mod for that mount style. For example, tray mount keyboards are considered "entry" but if you saw my tofu65 video, I with thr o-ring mount mod, it turns out phenomenal. :)
I have been filling my stabs with so much 205g0 and it's felt like such a waste! i got some plate mount durock stabs and am going to do the holee mod on them as well. Thanks for making this video!!
Can you tell me how that feels? My PCB doesn't support screw-in stabs so I will probably end up doing this, too. I plan on buying Everglide Panda stabs.
@@joeschmoe296 after some breaking in it feels great!! Hasn’t rattled since, and doesn’t feel mushy
@@andfromearth Nice, would you reccomend I do it on my GK61x? I will be ordering Everglide Pandas to replace the stock stabs. Or should I get plate mount Durocks instead? This is my first build as well
@@joeschmoe296 tbh I’ve never used the Everglides but I have heard good things! I’d say you can’t really go wrong with Durock though if you can get your hands on them
@@andfromearth Ok, and you don't need to clip plate mount stabs do you?
For the bar end wrap, I had trouble with the spacebar being stuck, even with 1 layer only. So for my smaller housing, I only wrapped half of the wire’s area, next to where the wire bends 90 degrees.
Great advice! Yeah for the bar end method, the type of bandaid really makes a big difference!
I’m sure I’m not the only one hearing it, but the holee mod just sounds better as well. It’s not rattle, it’s just it has that thock to it.
I believe the holee mod typically produces the most consistent results!
@@Keybored btw what board is it?
@@hingekeebs Hi hinge! The white keyboard that you see is the KBDFans D65 keyboard
@@Keybored Thanks!
Great vid! Any thoughts on the heatshrink mod vs mods shown in the video?
Hi RaptorN60! I tried this before, but couldn't find heat shrink that was thin enough. However a few viewers did find ones that worked, and I feel it'll have some great results. I will try it out in the future as well!
@@Keybored I will try it with my next build, if it does work i can send you some heat shrink :D
What are your thoughts about the Rama-Mod (using 1.6mm heatshrinks on the stab wire)?
Is it possible or recomendable to combine the Holee-mod witht the Rama-mod?
Hi Juan Carlos! I really wanted to explore this, but every shrink wrap I tried was a bit too thick to fit into the durock or the zeal stab housings :( But another viewer actually pointed out one that works, so I will be trying that in the near future! Wish me luck!
Another great video. Thanks for the help and ideas on different ways to achieve better sounding and feeling stabs. I know you mentioned using a waterproof bandaid for the holee mod. Do you have any idea on the longevity of the holee mod, as opposed to just using a lube or grease? Either way, great video and cheers!
Hi Christopher! I think the only worry with the holee or the epsi mod is the potential longevity of the mods. I know that epsi mod calls for no lube at all, but I feel that this makes the overall feel a bit stiff, and a tiny bit of the 205G0 did really help the movement. As long as we don't go overboard with the grease, I hope it helps to keep the adhesive intact! My feeling is that the bar end wrap with the right thickness may end up having the best long term reliability.
@@Keybored gotcha man. I figure the only real way to find out is like everyone else in the hobby, and just give them a try and see what ends up best over time, and for me personally. I dig the insight and tips to make the process that much easier. Waiting on my tofu65 to get here towards the end of the week, so I’ll make sure and try to get back with you on how the build came out. Cheers, and thanks again!
I'm finding that holee mod works best typically, but even holee mod + xht bdz isn't saving me from some residual rattle/ticking on my mr suit spacebar. The only thing I can imagine is wire is unbalanced, so I'm going to try using the rubber wire wedge they included in the box (these are durock V2 stabs, not the owlab stabs)
You have the best keyboard channel on TH-cam. Thanks for the great content, keep it up.
Thank you Anthony! I really appreciate it! I'll keep up the grind!
Just wanna share my own mod to stabilizer. I used thick lube for the end points of stabilizer rod and instead of using bandaid to the contact surface of pcb and stabilizer housing, I used the thinnest 3M double sided tape (the gray one) and put a thin layer of tissue paper so that it will not stick and I can put some krytox 205g0 lube. No rattle and it doesn't feel mushy
Thank you for another suggestion ARCEYADA! We can collectively defeat stab rattle!
thank you for the tutorial! I used the holee mod but with a cloth tape and it works pretty well too, now my cheap outemu spacebar doesn't sound so bad anymore
:) You're welcome! Glad it worked out!
Do a reverse pen grip (& use ring finger as resting finger) when doing the Holee mod, for easier application
Thank you for the suggestion! Any suggestion helps with the holee mod... getting the little strip through is such a pain
Thanks so much! This vid helped my ticking stabs which were started to get on my nerves lol.
:) So glad to be of help!
Great video, really helpful!
Have you tried doing a mix of Epsi and Holee mod? Meaning doing the Holee mod and then putting another band aid on the bottom part of where the wire goes the same way you did for the Epsi mod? Seems to me like it would get the best of both worlds.
Hi Ale! you can do the "Epsi Mod" with the bandaids on top and bottom and it works out ok!
With bar-end wrap as well?
Thank you for the video! What about that spacebar video tho? Right now I'm struggling with really loud spacebar. It has that loud, boomy sound on bottom out, which is considerably louder than all other keys. The problem goes away if using silent red switch, but I hate that dead, mushy feeling on keypress with it. I've been experimenting with putting different foams in the spacebar, but even with vibro-isolating material it doesn't really fix it, so I think this loud sound is combination of both keycap (thick ASA PBT doesn't help too), switch and keyboard case vibrations. And may be I need to vibro-isolate the bottom case better. Anyways, hopefully you'll release that video soon!
that film one is really smart
Thank you chu! I hope it was helpful!
I felt that intro lol
It's just too real :(
-hi Scott, I want to consult about stuck/mushy stabs.
So, I've bought the Durock Transparent Clear stabs (plate mount), it turns out that this Transparent Clear variant is a bit different than the Smokey Black and Tourmaline variant. This one happened to have rails inside of the housing, and the stem legs are shaped similarly to standard prebuilt stock stabs, but thicker so I don't think it's necessary to clip them. While the housings of the smokey black and tourmaline variant doesn't have any rails inside, and their stem legs are completely flat.
Tbh, the rails are indeed good to reduce the stem vs housing rattle, but it seems to make it a bit stuck when placed at the spacebar as the rails made them too tight. I'm at a loss on how to overcome this. Currently I grabbed a pair of housing and stem from my still-not-used-yet Durock Tourmaline stab just for the spacebar stab. At fist, I thought it was the keycap, then I've also checked the spacebar wire, but then I tried them on four different keyboards of mine and they're all stuck the same due to the railings being too tightly pressed against the stem.
Do you have any suggestions? Thanks
super nice video! Did you add lube inside the stab stems after the holee mod?
Yup! I added a bit of 205 to get it extra smooth!
What about a pinch of airy, low density foam over the end of the bar to kind of loosely fill the entire gap when assembled? I did that on a few Corsair boards (almost as rattley as the stabs Drop uses, amirite? lolol) and it silenced them right up without interfering. Super low effort and similarly effective outcome if done right.
i m rebuilding my board this week and going to try a couple alternatives like holee or heatshrinksthis time. I really have kind of a hate relationship with just filling the stab with Grease or krytox. My main issue that i allways have with it is the fact lube moves...its a moving part and after a couple weeks or months of using i allways get to the point where lube comes out of the stab channel and moves their way down to the bottom of the pcb creating a sticky film underneath the stabilizer itself. its not like inside a switch where little lube cant really go anywhere. a stab is open and exposed for the most time and prone to dirt too...
I fully agree! Especially when I use an angled stand, the lube all spills out eventually and ends up beneath the stem... Then it feels and sound terrible...
Bro the stock Durock V2s sound better than the original stabs on my keyboard. They are modded from top to bottom!!
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Thanks Norm!
if you felt that the bar end was too thin, would that mean you can have a thin layer of band aid on the bar AND combine it with holee ? would it even be worth the effort
That would actually make it a bit too thick. Nice thing about the bar end mod is that you can choose how much to wrap, which also controls the overall thickness :)
My man rocking the clean Hennesseys
Yup, so clean! Love it!
hahaha love the intro! 😂
:) Thanks Elias! Just to show the realities of stabilizers lol
Re-upload?
Yup! Had to fix a few things unfortunately... I didn't really show how the holee mod was done in detail... And I also wanted to provide the credits as well... Sorry I had to post and take down right away!
OMG Thank you I might use it idk hahaha, Also I'm subscribed to your channel ever since I fell into the hole but this just showed up now :}
No problem at all! I'm glad it was helpful and welcome to the hobby! The rabbit hole is deep and keeps going!
I'm currently using a method I've read from a random redditor, wrap the stab ends with plumbing ptfe tape, it works on already lubed stabs, been using it for a few months now, and it still does not tick, wire balancing also helps, waiting for my new durock stabs to arrive to try these methods instead.
Yup! I have heard about the plumbers tape approach! I'm going to be trying that out also
hi.. i tried your third method, and its working great! reduces A LOT of wobbling in my spacebar key. but it also changes the feels and sound too. im using outemu blue sw.
Glad it worked out Edith!
Out of all of this, which one is your favourite?
Hi Koji1x! I have been going back and forth between the holee mod for its consistency and the bar end wrap for its ease of application. If it's a brand new stab, I go with holee, since I don't have to clean anything. If it's a used and greased up stab, I just clean the bar and use bar end wrap :) I'm lazy but laziness births ideas sometimes
@@Keybored Nice, thanks for replying man
Do you think doing the EPSI mod but covering the length of the upper part like the holee mod instead would work out in terms of fitment?
Hi Slix! I think you can definitely do it with bandaids, but the stab pad might be a bit too thick :(
thank you so much i was just so frustrated and the bar mod worked so much
:) you're very welcome! Glad to hear it was helpful!
I had a heart attack after I saw your right index finger
Haha, yeah I hurt the finger some time ago and it's been healing... All the switch housing opening doesn't help it to heal though...
Would using dielectric grease on the metal wires for the holee mod be a good alternative to krytox 205g0? I've heard some people say its too thick of a lubricant and will be mushy when combined with the holee mod.
I would tend to agree! When holee modded, the gap is much tighter and doesn't need much lube suspension to minimize the rattle. So the 205 I used was for lubrication instead of rattle reduction. Hope that helps!
This is the most tedious thing I’ve ever seen. Keyboard enthusiasts have the most patience I’ve ever seen. I would NEVER bother with something like this. Much rather buy it already done 🤣
:) We are a special breed!
After watching the epsilon video incomented on his video saying using the kbd stabilizer pads would work better. Great minds think alike !!
:) One collective community
Hey! First of all: Awesome video and audio quality! (I even cant believe you are using an $50 USB microphone to get that audio quality or maybe im looking the wrong one becouse the one of your link is unavailable now xD).
Bro, I cant find that exactly band aid that you used, can you give me the Amazon link please?
PD: it would have been great if you used dielectric grease in all options, instead of krytox (becouse Dielectric Grease is cheaper, you know!)
Hi Riiiad! Thank you so much! The band-aid I used for the holee mod was the band-aid skin flex! See link provided below! I'll see what's going on with the mic link and fix it! www.amazon.com/Band-Aid-Skin-Flex-Adhesive-Bandages-Assorted/dp/B07PSCG4ZR/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=bandaid+skin+flex&qid=1623118699&sr=8-6
where is the video for the spacebar fill?
Have you ever tried using the holee mod and the bar end wrap method at the same time, and if you have is it good? I’d imagine it might get too sluggish but who knows 🤷🏻♂️. Also with the bar end method are you removing the adhesive part of the bandaid from the rest of the bandaid or why is it clear
I think both mods at once will make it too thick for the bar to operate normally :)
I used anti-chaffing cream to lube my stabilisers, works pretty well. Whether it will have a damaging long term affects idk but it sounds damn good so eh
Haha, that's a first!
wish i found this before, doing this when i get home
I hope it worked out well!
I use shrink wrap on the ends of the stabilizer wires...that plus a little grease eliminates spacebar rattle
Hi Franco! I could never find shrink wrap that was thin enough to fit into the stem hole. Any recommendations?
@@Keybored I've used 1.5mm shrink wrap with a heat gun (or heat from my soldering iron)...look up uxcell Heat Shrink Tubing 1.5mm on Amazon!
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Thank sviz! I appreciate you stopping by!
Ah, The sound.
Yup! We do it for the sound!
From my own experience the mod that stick something inside the stem surface will not last long. After a week and half it will fall off due tu the grease on wire. So far for me the better solution is to wrap a surgical tape, just a single layer of it on the wire.
The bar end wrap mod is similar concept! Hope it lasts a long time!
the first thing i do to my stab is wire balancing because every mod will fail if your wire is not balancing
This is such a helpful video! My keyboard s the tester68 and every stabilisers sounds great but for some reason the spacebar sounds a little but rattling and the holee mod acutally eliminate every rattle! and thanks for the video again! (sorry if my grammer sucks cause im from vietnam and i spoke vietnamese most of the time so ye you get it ;-;)
:) Glad it worked out well!
okay so i grabbed some bandaids and started to do the holee mod but sometimes the keypresses are mushy. if i press and hold and then let go, i hear some weird mushy noise. is there a way i can make it not mushy?
Hi PhantomHotty! I believe the bandaid might be a tad bit thick. I believe Hamaji also had the same results, and he said if you break them in, the mushy feel goes away! I used slightly thinner band to avoid the mushy feel, but very lightly lubed the wire with Krytox 205 for smoother operation.
There is no way that tiny sticker will- WOAHHhH
haha right? Some of these small mods are like unbelievable!
Nice Work
Hey! can i do like a mixture between the holee and epsi mod? like the holee mod method but using the kbdfans stab pads
Hi Suke! Unfortunately, the pads used in the epsi mod is a bit too thick. However, you can do the epsi and holee mod with thin bandages!