👋Hiya, noticed that this video is being pushed to a broader audience, so first off - welcome aboard, hope you enjoy your stay! 🏴☠️ To clear up a few things I've seen asked so far : 1. I'm dumb and hadn't picked up on which name Kuma usually goes by, so I keep calling him Tyrant a whole bunch. Try to ignore that 😅 2. The speed of light thing - don't take it too seriously, it's just me messing around. 400+ episodes deep into a fantasy series, I'm totally open to any kind of shenanigans that might pop up. I love talking about magic systems, especially with how interesting the fruit system is in OP, so I might bring it up here and there, but as long as I enjoy seeing it - I don't really care how "balanced" it is. The only thing I don't like is a "huzahh, new power", but there hasn't really been much of that so far, so I don't think it's anything to worry about. 3. More of a general point - keep in mind that I've basically seen these episodes once. I obviously go over parts of them while working on the video, but I may still get something completely wrong or say something stupid simply because I wasn't paying attention or something 😄 Think that's all for now, if you have any more questions for me, don't hesitate to ask! 👍
One question why do you have so much knowledge on haki and other things as well to be honest this is the first video I've seen from you so it just kinda thrown me of a bit when you referred to haki in such detail.
@@Phx... I assume I got something right? Please don't specifiy what that is, but much of what I talk about are either things I've been going on about for months or just random ideas I've been throwing around. I've seen Amazon Lily now, and I still don't understand Haki, especially with there being more of it, so I'm not too sure what you mean by that 😅 Though yeah - no spoilers please.
@@Phx... It is all based on his observations on Shanks during his Talk with Whitebeard and afterwards the retrospective views on Mantra, Shanks during Romance Dawn etc.
about the Marine cape! Oda said: It never fall off because they have justice written on the back and justice never falls, and aslong as the feeling of justice is in their hearts it wont fall off
if this isn't a joke for later chapters i'll be fine with it. I mean just look at JJK, "the more i explain my technique the stronger/more effective it gets lol". (Dw, i love both series)
Garp was likely responsible for the marines that surrounded the auction house - they weren't there because of Luffy. It isn't explained but I could see that Garp originally ordered them to simply watch the auction house and inform him if someone who looks like Rayleigh comes out.
@@StephenN.Parker Because it is simply unthinkable that someone hurts a CD I don't see the marines doing this (not mentioning that the CD will likely make no difference how they treat a marine or common people so the marines are in real danger there). And even if we consider it the troop size should have been way smaller.
@@f.carasind4188 Sure, they don't think anyone will do that to CD, but doesn't mean they don't keep some people near them. Beside, there was a whole navy base right nearby, if you rewatch the arc, the auction house is at Grove #1 (group 1 to 9), while navy base is at group 60-69, right below group 1-9. So they have enough time to move marine there.
@@Koroto garp is also often the one to say one thing and do something else that he thinks is right. So him not going personally seems to be a choice he made to not interfere in a substantial way. Akainu showing up is enough to keep the newbie pirates at bay, but Garp going would be enough to actually keep Rayleigh from doing what he wants which he probably doesn't want since Rayleigh would help luffy
Let's do some math. Aokiji in Foxy arc froze the sea in between two islands, which covers path that takes a person riding a horse "a few hours" (let's say 4) to go through, and you can't get there in tim just on foot. So, if we take a standard horse speed with a rider (12-13km/h) and standard human speed (4-5 km/h) we get diapason of 16-48 km of water Aokiji froze. Average out, and we get solid 32 kilometers of water. The stretch of water that he froze wasn't that wide, but was at least 20 meters wide. Ice usually floats with 9/10 of its volume under water, and in the manga we see that new frozen ice gets lifted to about 20 santimeters above water's previous level, which gives us solid 200 santimeters of height. 2m*32000m*20m gives 1280000 cubic meters of ice frozen in around two seconds To put it into perspective, the entirety of Hangar One is around 80% of that volume, and the weight of that ice would be around 1152000 TONS. And all of that in a few seconds without even breaking a sweat. So yes, admirals are pretty strong and heir devil fruits are pretty broken
Oda (autor of the manga), doesn't like power scaling, and he thinks that fans should just enjoy the story without scaling everything. For example when he was asked how far can Luffy stretch he would give some stupid answer like "500 gomu-gomus". So you shouldn't take Kizarus fruit to heart too much. Maybe physics in OP world is different, or maybe Kizarus speed is limited by his own reaction and thinking speed. Cuz brain still has to process information and give orders to your body, and that takes time. So don't concentrate on it too much.
With all due respect to you, what you've just said is mostly headcanon. Yes, it's true about the 500 gomu gomu's, but honestly, that doesn't relate to power leveling all that much. If Oda truly didn't care about power scaling, he would not have made a shonen BATTLE manga. So, of course Oda cares about power scaling. It might not be a big priority, but it's still a priority. Feel free to disagree and discuss tho
@@entrenam45 I disagree, but I understand the logic behind it. One piece usually relies on a clash and then the characters walk away, and sometimes it completely offscreens fights entirely. Still seems like a major factor in the story, but its not as important as the fights in like naruto and black clover
@@HerculesOfHate Sure, he said the gomu gomu thing but Oda NEVER said he didn't care about power levels. That is whats false. In fact he very explicitly goes out of his way to make the power rankings clear. This isn't even my point. My point is about KIzaru and fans coming up with headcanon to dismiss him because they cant handle the fact that he's just that fast.
Fun fact, Oda made the supernovas (the other pirate captains and their crews) LAST MINUTE, he sketched up all their designs and everything the week before it was supposed to go out just because he wanted to add more depth to the sabaody arc!
@@Koroto The same thing applies to the seven warlords, One Piece was originally only meant to go after the four emperors, however Oda added it last minute because he thought it sounded cool
Well it wasnt really his idea but the editors or guys in charge (idk what you'd call them). So he was like "aight lemme just whip out some characters and have them end up as one of the best things in the series" lmao Oda so underrated fr.
One of my favorite arcs. It's so tragic, and every time you find someone who read/watched it, they just have so much to discuss and theorize. Watching it together with someone, knowing what's going to happen, while they're just enjoying the rollercoasters and bubbles, it's the best lol
The thing about Kizaru is that even though he's physically as fast as the speed of light, he's not that fast mentally. It still takes him time to react to things, so if you can predict his attacks, it's possible to dodge/cheese them.
@@emperorluffy6001 idk man Kizaru just seems really spacey all the time. I always got the impression that the whole idea for his character is that he's both incredibly fast and very slow at the same time
False there's no basis for this argument characters relatively early on in the series I have already shown to have a light speed Reaction Time much less somebody like kizaro who would be way way above that human Reaction Time
@@emperorluffy6001 Sorry for the late reply, but I'm pretty sure Kizaru literally states that he doesn't like to fully transform into light because he can't actually control or react fast enough to keep up with its true speed, as well as said light being forced to travel in straight lines making it even more of a pain to navigate with. That's why he only ever transforms small parts of his body into light at a time, and when he does have to transform fully, he has that yata no kagami move. He uses it to find a path to his target so he can transform into light and follow that path towards them without actually needing to think or react in regards to movement and control. It might also be why he arrives on the battlefield via cannonball instead of just lazering there. Though it could equally just be Oda making a dramatic entrance for him. Another thing to note is that none of his moves actually start at light speed. They just rapidly accelerate towards light speed after moving. That's how Rayleigh (and other characters later on) was able to intercept the attacks multiple times. He just made sure they never got the chance to reach maximum speed and thus become unreactable, if that makes sense. Finally, Kizaru's reaction speeds are fast, but they're not light speed. It could be his Devil Fruit enhancing them, but it could also just be due to his training as a Admiral.
Kizaru having the power of light doesn't really mean he can use it fully, since his powers are limited by his own reaction time, also when he's doing the movement he only goes in straight lines.
@@emperorluffy6001 I didn't say he couldn't move at light speed tho. But that isn't feasible. If he actually moved at the speed of light he'd move (even if we assume a reaction time of 1/1000000s which would be faaaaar beyond possible) 300.000.000 m/s * 0.0000001s = 300m before actually realizing where he is => Kizaru would probably drown the instant he moves since the most likely place for him to be is in the ocean(or the space). At the same time we avoid the fact that a kick of Kizaru at the actual speed of light would probably match the destructive power of a few nukes. If we want to get technical, Let's assume that the One Piece world is similar in size to earth. If Kizaru were to use the parameters of REAL light, He could fly around the entire earth 7.5 times, In a single second................ A single second, He could literally be anywhere on the planet so fast that humans wouldn't even be capable of perceiving the moment he left and came back. He could theoretically travel to any position on earth and back to his original location faster than your brain can process and perceive his movement, it would simply just be a temporary acceleration of visual light but he would appear to have not moved as your eyes are only capable of perceiving at a certain frame rate. TL;DR If Kizaru used the true extent of light he could eviscerate planets, he could move fast enough to effect his perception of time possibly allowing physical alteration of time, He could move faster than humans are even capable of perceiving existence in front of them. Of course one piece physics shenanigans and nothing happens. Plus Kizaru is a lethargic guy. Either way, it's not believable for him to move at actual speed of light, unless light is different in one piece, therefore not being that overpowered after all. Half of this comment was basically a ctrl c from reddit forums, as it's agreed on the community that it doesn't make sense. Anyway, power scaling is dumb and this is just a petty way to say that you are wrong in calling me out.
You don't understand Kizaru's Devil Fruit because you still think that ordinary Human limitations apply to these characters. Get that out of your head. If you're still thinking that Lightpseed should be "untouchable" thats only because you believe these guys are humans.
47:11 The tragedy of Rumbar Pirates already broke me. Oda only gets better at his craft and could write something even more tragic. You’re telling me you want to see more? You’re a sadist.
There was A LOT to talk about in this arc, I can't fault you for not bringing it up, but... Thoughts on the others Supernova (beside Kid and Law)? Also I agree, Capone's fruit power is awesome.
Most of them were very very intriguing - the prophet/future seeing guy is one I can already see being used for a whole bunch of foreshadowing, and his fruit power was also awesome. I love voodoo-type magic in fantasy, so I really hope to see more of him. The instrument guy is clearly pretty deceptively powerful, so I'm curious how his powers actually work. Capone is your typical mafia boss with an awesome fruit power to boot. I think seeing the crew face off against him could be super interesting simply because he can just have waves and waves of enemies to back him up. The pink haired girl who can turn people into babies is one of those characters that you can't really fight (sort of like the ghost girl in Thriller Bark), so I'm curious how the crew might beat her. (Though her power immediately gave me flashbacks to one of, if not the worst stand user in Jojo haha). Don't really know where to put the big guy with the wings - seems like a powerful character with a potentially interesting backstory (since the only place we've seen those wings is Skypiea), but not really sure where to pin him just yet. And lastly - the T-Rex guy seemed kinda meh. I like dinosaurs as much as the next guy, but so far, he was super forgettable. Not sure if I forgot someone, but those are my 1 sentence summaries of (I think) everyone else. 😄
@@Koroto It seems you didn't catch it but it was stated that the T-Rex was a marine Rear-Admiral ( 2 ranks below the Admirals and 2 above Smoker ) Also the big guy with wings was from Bierka , Enel's home island that he destroyed ( this was only revealed in supplementary materials that aren't included in the anime )
Inherited Will is not Reincarnation. We've seen many instances of Luffy Inheriting others Wills and fulfilling them. In East Blue alone, Luffy inherited the will of Coby and took out Alvida, also with Chouchou and took out Mohji and Richie, next was Boodle where Luffy took care of Buggy for him, then Usopp where Luffy took on the Black Cat Pirates, then Sanji and defending Baratie from Krieg, then Nami freeing Cocoyashi from Arlong.
Some NO SPOILER details and opinions -About Kizaru, IMO while the fruit changes the body to adapt (look at Alvida) there is a limit, so to me Kizaru is a little like the Tiger Beetle, an insect that is so fast it goes blind and as such will run-stop-run-stop to look where its going. So the combination of Kizaru slowing down by himself and some mantra like ability people can fight him, although its necessary a good amount of power to do so -About Garp not doing anything, that is his way of dealing with it. By not letting Sengoku know the situation and with that focus in the other legend since for Garp what Rayleigh is doing that is not a real problem. -About Zoro using Haki there, that is an animation mistake. Its a joke for a long time that he is intimidating and give some awful stares and the anime just put a little more emphase on that. No haki here. -About Doflamingo symbol, you also saw it with Bellamy (Jaya) and at least in the manga the medicine White Beard uses also has that symbol. Anyway, forget the cheese everything is about Smiles now
Ur in for a wild ride during the next few arcs, tho that’s kinda op in general . Ur probably going to enjoy them a lot, especially one in particular lol. Can’t wait to hear ur thoughts on them. Btw u will never stop watching this show now. Not until the end lol.
We actually see Rayleigh for the first time in buggy’s flashback in the east blue when he argues with shanks about the north South Pole, he looks a bit different Tim the anime but in the manga he has the same design
What Garp meant by him handling the Rayleigh situation is to just leave Rayleigh alone and Garp takes resposibility, because there is no way for the Navy to capture him without loosing many troops they need for the War with Whitebeard.
Not a spoiler but oda has said it wasn't "the friends you made along the way" also the Roger hearing voices was "the voice of all things" that the official translation of whatever that is
from my understanding, Oda doesn't like killing off characters unless its very important for the story. he's not like DC, he won't kill off characters for shock value or just to make you cry for a bit and then forget about it, he will only kill off someone if it's absolutely needed for the story.
You are really great at paying a lot of attention to details. The first time i watched onepiece i didnt notice all this things, only on rewatch i could notice many of this things.
So, the weakness of Kizaru's fruit is that 1) When he turns into light to move he loses his directional control, he has to bounce off things much like actual light does. This makes him more predictable if you fight him in an open space and thus more reactable (along with some other things one can do you're not aware of yet). & 2) Because of this he is not constantly fighting at the speed of light. He has light-speed techniques yes like his kicks, but for example when he was clashing swords with Rayleigh he's not swinging at the speed of light. Remember Logias have to actively "turn on" their element form, otherwise they're just like anyone else.
Yeah he can't actually FIGHT at light speed, I think. The Human brain can't even make the calculations fast enough. He can move at the speed, make straight forward attacks like kicks and punches at that speed, but he cannot quickly flow from one attack tot he next at that speed. Like if he wants to move to you and kick you, he moves to you at light speed, but before he attacks he has to take a moment to take in his environment before he can attack. If he could fight unrestricted at the speed of light, I don't think anyone could beat him.
@@Chrisfragger1 Exactly. You can tell if you pay attention to him in fights he'll do something like move to someoneone's position instantly but then when he actually goes to attack them he's back in human form and like shoots a laser or something like that. It's consistent with all Logias, Ace cant fight you as a being of pure fire like a Balrog from LotR or something lol.
You are right sort of whenever he was clashing there's a good chance he was moving at a speed of light much weaker characters have shown the ability to move at the speed of light but I do still agree with your pulling
Corection : what destroyed Duval's base was called the Gau Cannon ( bassically the Coup de Burst used as a cannon ) . The Chicken Voyage is just the main of Sunny's figurehead spinning to propel the ship backwards Cheese
One of my favorite crew moments in that final scene was Brook also going out of his way to grab zoros swords for him since he is also a swordsman and knew how important they were and how he also knew what happened in the "nothing happened" moment
I'll just be the 1st to say this: It's just fiction logic. The whole time dilation thing with moving faster than light has been ignored by pretty much every shonen. Dragon Ball characters have been moving faster than light since the Freeza arc at the absolute latest and some of them these days are even moving faster than time itself. (Doesn't make sense? Welp, too bad.) Heck, even outside of anime we have the Flash, who has been able to run fast enough to travel through time pretty much from the start. Then there's Sonic the Hedgehog from Archie Comics, who is completely immune to time stopping powers purely because of just how fast he is. Of all the places to draw the line, I don't think this is it.
I vividly remember reading this chapter almost 15 years ago and having to wait several months for the next volume to come out. I can't wait to hear your thoughts on cheese... I mean, the next couple of chapters.
When I first watched this arc about 2 years ago, I knew everyone was going to be fine, that no one was going to die, but because of everything that was happening, because of everyone’s reactions and responses, I thought that everything ended here. And I’ll tell you right now, this is only the beginning of the pain you are about to suffer.
The Supernovas weren't planed at all , Oda came up with them as he was making their debut chapter ( only having an idea that Kidd will be important ) . He did this because an editor told him the arc needed something more , which is crazy looking back . Cheese
Something to remember from the land of terrible laughs, (horohorohoro) Moria made a crew of zombies because he lost his living crew in the New World. Moria specifically said Luffy was too weak for the New World and he would lose his crew. Just something to chew on.
The scaling is pretty much irrelevant, People reacting to something simply means that they can do that thing. Probably shouldn't be questioned. Nami and Ussop could react to lightning in Skypiea for example, it's simply something they're capable of doing and if someone else hits them it just means they were faster than lightning. Same logic applies with Rayleigh, he's faster than light because he could react and hit Kizaru mid attack. Even then I'd argue that he's not actually lightspeed OR the physics of the one piece universe is completely different and it may not actually apply to the same speed in our world. Light speed one piece arguments are pretty much useless since there so much you can both back it up with and simultaneously debunk it with so I'd just ignore it all together Don't over focus on the logic of it because it's simply the logic of different verses and the story matters more. Luckily Oda somehow manages to keep the scaling pretty consistent aside from some outliers even if he doesn't care about scaling. I'd also add that things looking slower in these shows than they should be is obviously simply for audience comprehension. Like sure Luffy could keep up with Electricity with Enel which makes him insanely fast, they're just made to appear slow enough for audiences to be able to watch even if they may be going at said speeds. Best example of this in this arc is Kizaru attacking Apoo with the Mirror attack. He was going likely Relavistic to LS but it was shown slower
But Nami, and Ussop, literally got shot by Eneru, on the marry instantly how can they react if they got hit, i swear my fellow one piece fans are just insane why did you have to write a few paragraphs to convey this, i respect the hustle.
@@joshshrum2764 think about it this way. A Bullet can travel around 1700 mph. It's not as simple as dodging the bullet but the distance. If you dodge the bullet point blank your reaction speed is much higher than if you were to dodge from 50 feet away. The example you gave of enel bodying them was point blank and unexpected which would require faster reaction time since it was slower. Just take the distance and find how much they moved in order to avoid. Namis reaction to it was calced at Mach 413 for the first one with climstact and 909 for the lightning dodge. Which is Massively Hypersonic and more consistent in line with other feats she preformed and scale to. So not necessarily lightning speed but extremely fast nonetheless
I've watched the whole series up until now and I've gotta say, I don't think it's his first time watching this. Gives the vibe of someone trying real hard to give the vibe of a newbie
Fun fact : Rayleigh appeared in Buggy's flashback in the East Blue , though the anime gave him a drastically different design to the current one . Cheese
Not sure if anyone has pointed, the Zoro-haki-moment is not canon. It didn't happen in manga. Toei just add it up to fuck with anime watchers. But the Zoro moment of trying to cut Carlos was truly insane. It was to show how blood thirsty Zoro can be, from 0 to 100 in a second. Edit: I don't think in One Piece, there is such thing as reincarnation, except for Brook of course, reincarnated after he died. If it does, Rayleigh would say this to Luffy ''I miss you old friend'' So far, most people reminded of Roger when they met Luffy. To me it is more because Luffy embodies Roger's traits and personalities. The way how Luffy says he wants to be the Pirate King with happiness and couldn't care less what other people think.
Kizaru's attacks move at light speed (or at least what passes for light speed in the OP universe) but he himself doesn't seem to have light speed reaction. Heck he might be the physically slowest top tier fighter ever. Note that he sets the attacks and then turns into light for the impact. So basically he's like melted cheese. It melts super fast, but it flows sloooooooooooowly
I'm so confused how does this work? he is lightspeed and he has observation haki. He just hardly cares due to he knows he's a logia and they can't harm him.
@@funnycoolaid8224 None of those things affect how fast he reacts to stuff. Yes advanced observation COULD make him react faster, but he's still a slow fighter.
Kisaru may have the power of light but his brain moves slower than a tele snail... but seriously you have to trust oda here it all makes sense in the end^^
6:16 buddy...trust me... Not to spoil anything but there is A LOT about these two that you don't know... We'll get there when we get there but...phew boy. Loving the series so far! Was binging your videos for a while!
As heavily into worldbuilding and lore that Oda very much is, he also adheres to the rule of cool. Thus, the capes. Also, I believe the captains (the leading officers of the military) in Bleach had a similar thing with their capes but a little more lore and character was put behind them. The capes were worn differently and denoted divisions that each lead. There are more examples elsewhere but I don't know the reason behind it being such a common trope. It does look cool though.
You don't seem to completely get how Kizaru's DF works. It's never true light speed since it would cause such a gigantic explosion everything would just die anywhere near him. We can pretty nicely assume it's 3x the speed as what Enel gets since light is roughly 3x faster than electricity. Even it's "pure lightspeed" is only a thing when he completely turns into light aka when he went after Apoo. When he kicks for example he turns the back of his feet into light so it basically works as a "light speed" jet engine that accelerates his foot that still has it's own weight. These are still one of the strongest kicks we ever see in the series anyways so i'm personally fine with it. If you ask me it's also a visual effect, they kinda have to nerf the speed of all his attacks so we can properly see them like how wind and air based abilites in media are clearly depicted visually for the audience to actually see what happens even if the effect is invisible in-universe
@@emperorluffy6001 yeah it's light speed and somehow they dont die. so uh anime physics or it isn't really light speed because it's made from a devil fruit and thus it is weakened form of light speed. idk. i dont really care tbh. i just enjoy the anime.
@@whitevortex8323 Uh, thats not an argument. You do realize that One Piece characters are superhuman right? Theres a A LOT of things that "should" kill them but don't. lol. It's not a weakened form of light. It's confirmed natural actual light. Unless you're gonna try to argue that Ace isn't fire. lol.
I think kizaru can't move faster than his brain can process. So potentially he can move with a speed of light, but since he can't process this speed he just uses light as weapon.
@@whitevortex8323 It makes sense. Yall are just coming up with unnecessary headcanon to try and explain something that DOESN'T need to be explained. Kizaru is Lightspeed. Period. End of Discussion. It's that simple.
@@jonnjones8263 i think what you're not understanding is what ppl meant to say, i think they mean HE CAN move at speed of light, like, for traveling, but in the middle of the fight you have to react, think and act, and unless you'r brain also thinks at the speed of light (thing that i highly doubt) it's impossible to do all of that in the middle of a battle, if he could trully use his power to that extent he could just slice rayleight 100 times before he has time to react, period, that's how fast light is
@@lordkyruma You're still not understanding why all of that is wrong. "if he could trully use his power to that extent he could just slice rayleight 100 times before he has time to react, period, that's how fast light is" That argument MIGHT apply if Rayleigh had the reactions of a Normal Human. He doesn't. When are you gonna get it through your heads that none of these characters are normal humans? These are all Superhuman monsters. Our normal human limitations don't apply. Kizaru is Lightspeed and Rayleigh just happens to be able to keep up with him because he's simply THAT strong. Period.
About the whole moving at the speed of light making you too op in the one piece world. You gotta remember Luffy and Zorro could both move faster than the eye can see at the start of the show For example for luffy anytime he used gum gum rocket or Zoro when he dissapeard in front of the bounty hunters and they both have gotten much stronger since then and they are both at this point in time far from the more powerful characters in the one piece world so i hope that gives you an indication that the sheer brute strength that the top dogs have in this world is already reaching broken standards. Do not forget that Shanks can swim but he is still a yonko
Even powerful characters like other admirals or emperors aren't close to moving at the speed of light, the comparison of Luffy and Zoro moving fast from the beggining doesn't really make the light-speed movement any less op The reason why the speed of light isn't as broken as he thinks is because of observation haki, but he's still learning about haki, no need to convince him or explain anything
To be fair Hachi didn't really have plot armour considering chopper is there and we already know that fishmen can take quite a lot of damage compared to humans. Edit: But I still get your point about stakes.
what Garp said was "Do you want to fight againts 2 legends?" meaning, we are about to fight against Whitebeard, there is no reason to go after Rayleigh at this point, and him taking care was rather, should any blame were to be given, he would take it
I think you're going to eventually need to switch to the manga. Especially around the 600 episodes, as pacing becomes unbearable in the anime> At least it was for a lot people i know that went through the series, including me. Great video nonetheless.
Ohhj since i am early for first time i wanted to sqy this that after eps 600 or something it would be good if u will switch to the manga since pacing will become awful and u might not enjoy later arcs so consider this also your op vids are amazing and entertaining as always 🗿
Oh haha, he thinks the power on display is too much now, and to think it gets more bonkers. (Spoiler below) Sanji is moving light speed in his fight vs Queen
Ok so about the speed of lighy there are polar oposites in the characters depicting marine admirals for example kizaru is slow in the head a bit and slow reactions which opposes his devil fruit. You'll see later with some other admirals that it goes with them as well.
Garp says we can't fight 2 legends because of the incoming war, also Doflamingo is one of my favorite villains that's all I'll say. I know I'm not the first but your prediction got me on the edge of my seat I'm always looking forward to them especially as someone who's fairly caught up. If you've watched the show this long it's slowly shown the story growing up getting into a more mature series and it's slowly been raising the stake when you look back we couldn't really even beat crocodile without some outside help. The only reason we made it this far was by pushing through getting lucky which our friend Blackbeards Doctor Q said it in Jaya "he's very lucky" 🧀
Admiral cape item description : "The proof of reaching the rank of Admiral , the second highest position one can achieve in the marines . Rarity : S+ Effects : Increases HP by 20% , Armor Class by 3 and increases Drip by up to 80% . Grants the "Troop Rally" ability , allowing the user to increase the morale of Marine soldier in close proximity . Also allows access to the Marines supply of Cheese "
I like cheese almost as much as I like One Piece and your videos on One Piece. Just caught up to your latest in this series, which I figured was the perfect time to legitimately contribute to your experiment.
Oh wow I did expect it to be high but I didn't expect it to be number 1. For me it ranks definitely below Enies Lobby but still pretty high. At least considering the arcs up to now. There are some higher in my opinion but that only highlights the quality the series has overall.
All this talk about luffy's connections to roger feel so nostalgic to me. It also makes me realize that a certain joyous individual doesn't get mentioned until the end of fishman island
I really really recommend you that instead of rewatching the anime once you finish it , go and read the manga. I am not a big fan in this case of the anime version, because they drag so many things, also the art is so much better and expressive in the manga. Plus you can read small side stories and Oda answering some question, sometimes just random and funny question that I love.
That is very much the plan! Not sure how long you've been around, but a large reason why I didn't originally start with the manga is availability. I much prefer reading a physical copy, but getting it where I live would seriously break the bank. Once I get closer to being caught up I'll see what I can do - even if I can't get my hands on the physical thing, I'll read it digitally :)
I can't wait for the new episode but it also makes me sad because i know we have only a few arks to go... will you review the latest OP movies too? Some of them are really good...
Who knows, maybe. 🤷♂️ Are they canon or? And I wouldn't worry about me being somewhat closer to caught up, getting to 1000 will probably still take another 9 months 😅
@@Koroto i think the new movie about shanks will be canon not sure when it takes place tho...the others aren't canon but the animation is pretty good... some of the movies do kinda contain spoilers so watch out (you should be fine in 2-4 arks)
Ahh, then I might check them out at some point (probably once I'm caught up at the earliest). The problem I have with non-canon movies is that I find they are even more detached from the story than filler arcs - they by their nature just have 3 acts where they are forced to return to where they began, which makes it very hard for me to get invested. Filler arcs of course have the same problem, but for some reason, I feel like they flow better than movies do, be it due to the serialized nature of it or something else. Though yeah, we'll just have to wait and see - a canon movie about Shanks, however, sounds like a must-watch 😂
Even normal Humans in One Piece are just way more durable than your average fantasy charakter and you have to accept that, if you want to really enjoy the Show. I mean an average One Piece Human can get thrown thru a 1 meter (metric system LUL) stone wall and still be fine. Also Things like Light speed and Physics in general might be really differnt then in our Universe, they are based on our concepts of Physics so you understand them, but if you strictly follow our Rules most of the Powers in One Piece would not works. So softening or changing those rules in a consistent manner is what makes this a Dreamworld where Oda can use all of his creativity. You kinda said it your self: "... or he is moving faster than Light and thats just silly", exactly One Piece is just silly and is suposed to be that.
Great, my friend about to held a wedding in 5 days. Hopefully I got rid of this stupid whooping coughs. Also, I wish they serve wine and *_cheese_* platter. (^ w ^)
Not 100% certain, but I think the Celestial Dragons may be heavily inbred. They don;t say it, but they have the look and feel of the kind of nobles that don't 'sully the bloodline' with common blood.
Don't listen to people spreading misinformation in the comments. Kizaru is factually Lightspeed. Characters can hit him because the characters in this world are superhuman enough to keep up with him. Your problem is you think being lightspeed should make him untouchable. That would be the case if characters in One Piece were ordinary humans. But they're not and never have been.
@@SolitaryLark No I'm not. I've re-read One Piece more than anyone else. Kizaru DOES NOT need a technique to travel as a beam of light because he's been shown moving as light without it. Yata Mirror is only used so he can move at ANGLES because Light typically moves in a straight line. Thats it. He doesn't need it for speed or to move as Light.
Yes the Light Light fruit pust so much argument. but i think even Kizaru has power of light he was limit with his human ability.... this what i think simple
For me the most devastating part of the Strawhat getting annihilated is Nami and Robin. To Nami Luffy is her savior. He saved her village, he freed her from slavery. and she has been with Luffy for the longest time. She has seen Luffy overcome impossible odds, saved countries and stand tall gainst overwhelming odds. the amount of trust and respect she has for Luffy is immeasureable so what does she do when death is coming for her? in her last moments she turns to Luffy and begs him to save her again as she knows he has done many times before for many people. And Luffy fails. it's heart breaking. Robin has live life full of betrayal and persecution. Luffy waged a war against the worl government just to take her back. he finally has the family she always dreamed off. and not even year later she is ripped away from them. it's like cruel fate, imagine thinking you're cursed your entire life and when things finally looks a little bit good this happens.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that. In her last moments before being erased, Nami begs Luffy for help the exact same way she did in Arlong Park. But this time...he can't help her.
Consider this, you clearly are emotionally invested despite the lack of deaths. Everyone complains about the lack of "stakes", but then watch/read a thousand episodes/chapters.
This youtuber is AMAZING in noticing things and theorizing. I have mentioned the same in other videos and I'm sorry that I repeat myself, but in every video he blows my mind. Well done. This time the reason I mentioned this is that he noticed the Donflamingo/Law symbols. On a side note: All the supernova (Kid, Law, etc) were created from scratch at the last moment by Oda, because he felt that this arc was boring.
Time dilation works only on things other than light, so if Kizaru turns into light before moving at speed of light, there would be no time dilation probs.😜😜
👋Hiya, noticed that this video is being pushed to a broader audience, so first off - welcome aboard, hope you enjoy your stay! 🏴☠️
To clear up a few things I've seen asked so far :
1. I'm dumb and hadn't picked up on which name Kuma usually goes by, so I keep calling him Tyrant a whole bunch. Try to ignore that 😅
2. The speed of light thing - don't take it too seriously, it's just me messing around. 400+ episodes deep into a fantasy series, I'm totally open to any kind of shenanigans that might pop up. I love talking about magic systems, especially with how interesting the fruit system is in OP, so I might bring it up here and there, but as long as I enjoy seeing it - I don't really care how "balanced" it is. The only thing I don't like is a "huzahh, new power", but there hasn't really been much of that so far, so I don't think it's anything to worry about.
3. More of a general point - keep in mind that I've basically seen these episodes once. I obviously go over parts of them while working on the video, but I may still get something completely wrong or say something stupid simply because I wasn't paying attention or something 😄
Think that's all for now, if you have any more questions for me, don't hesitate to ask! 👍
One question why do you have so much knowledge on haki and other things as well to be honest this is the first video I've seen from you so it just kinda thrown me of a bit when you referred to haki in such detail.
@@Phx... I assume I got something right? Please don't specifiy what that is, but much of what I talk about are either things I've been going on about for months or just random ideas I've been throwing around.
I've seen Amazon Lily now, and I still don't understand Haki, especially with there being more of it, so I'm not too sure what you mean by that 😅
Though yeah - no spoilers please.
@@Koroto Nope your completely wrong but if you are right you have to watch to find out ;) (no spoilers)
@@Phx... It is all based on his observations on Shanks during his Talk with Whitebeard and afterwards the retrospective views on Mantra, Shanks during Romance Dawn etc.
about the Marine cape! Oda said: It never fall off because they have justice written on the back and justice never falls, and aslong as the feeling of justice is in their hearts it wont fall off
Watch this becoming a plotpoint 600 chapters later
Wow now i'm thinking that smoker is gonna leave the marines to join the strawhats in some way and when he does his cape is gonna fall
I would have preferred if he just admitted he drew them this way because it looked cool.
You can wear a jacket this way
if this isn't a joke for later chapters i'll be fine with it. I mean just look at JJK, "the more i explain my technique the stronger/more effective it gets lol". (Dw, i love both series)
20:00 "Pulling STRINGS to get what he wants" Lmfao that choice of words about Doflamingo is very funny 🤣
Garp was likely responsible for the marines that surrounded the auction house - they weren't there because of Luffy. It isn't explained but I could see that Garp originally ordered them to simply watch the auction house and inform him if someone who looks like Rayleigh comes out.
Ahh, suppose that makes sense. Just thought the whole "take care of it personally" part meant that he would literally go there himself.
I mean, it’s not that far fetch to think Marine will have some of marine soldier always stay nearby wherever those CD go.
@@StephenN.Parker Because it is simply unthinkable that someone hurts a CD I don't see the marines doing this (not mentioning that the CD will likely make no difference how they treat a marine or common people so the marines are in real danger there). And even if we consider it the troop size should have been way smaller.
@@f.carasind4188
Sure, they don't think anyone will do that to CD, but doesn't mean they don't keep some people near them.
Beside, there was a whole navy base right nearby, if you rewatch the arc, the auction house is at Grove #1 (group 1 to 9), while navy base is at group 60-69, right below group 1-9.
So they have enough time to move marine there.
@@Koroto garp is also often the one to say one thing and do something else that he thinks is right. So him not going personally seems to be a choice he made to not interfere in a substantial way. Akainu showing up is enough to keep the newbie pirates at bay, but Garp going would be enough to actually keep Rayleigh from doing what he wants which he probably doesn't want since Rayleigh would help luffy
The cape boost their HP by 20% and their swag by 40%
Let's do some math.
Aokiji in Foxy arc froze the sea in between two islands, which covers path that takes a person riding a horse "a few hours" (let's say 4) to go through, and you can't get there in tim just on foot.
So, if we take a standard horse speed with a rider (12-13km/h) and standard human speed (4-5 km/h) we get diapason of 16-48 km of water Aokiji froze.
Average out, and we get solid 32 kilometers of water.
The stretch of water that he froze wasn't that wide, but was at least 20 meters wide.
Ice usually floats with 9/10 of its volume under water, and in the manga we see that new frozen ice gets lifted to about 20 santimeters above water's previous level, which gives us solid 200 santimeters of height.
2m*32000m*20m gives 1280000 cubic meters of ice frozen in around two seconds
To put it into perspective, the entirety of Hangar One is around 80% of that volume, and the weight of that ice would be around 1152000 TONS.
And all of that in a few seconds without even breaking a sweat.
So yes, admirals are pretty strong and heir devil fruits are pretty broken
I like you. xDDDDDDDD
@@Koroto I like you too!
get a room, you two.
Y'all are weird 😂
@@Koroto now kiss
Oda (autor of the manga), doesn't like power scaling, and he thinks that fans should just enjoy the story without scaling everything. For example when he was asked how far can Luffy stretch he would give some stupid answer like "500 gomu-gomus". So you shouldn't take Kizarus fruit to heart too much. Maybe physics in OP world is different, or maybe Kizarus speed is limited by his own reaction and thinking speed. Cuz brain still has to process information and give orders to your body, and that takes time. So don't concentrate on it too much.
Thats not true at all. Thats just headcanon you've invented.
@@jonnjones8263 ....Those are literally words from Odas mouth. Are you broken? One Piece isnt a "power level" kind of series.
With all due respect to you, what you've just said is mostly headcanon. Yes, it's true about the 500 gomu gomu's, but honestly, that doesn't relate to power leveling all that much. If Oda truly didn't care about power scaling, he would not have made a shonen BATTLE manga. So, of course Oda cares about power scaling. It might not be a big priority, but it's still a priority. Feel free to disagree and discuss tho
@@entrenam45 I disagree, but I understand the logic behind it. One piece usually relies on a clash and then the characters walk away, and sometimes it completely offscreens fights entirely. Still seems like a major factor in the story, but its not as important as the fights in like naruto and black clover
@@HerculesOfHate Sure, he said the gomu gomu thing but Oda NEVER said he didn't care about power levels. That is whats false. In fact he very explicitly goes out of his way to make the power rankings clear. This isn't even my point. My point is about KIzaru and fans coming up with headcanon to dismiss him because they cant handle the fact that he's just that fast.
Fun fact, Oda made the supernovas (the other pirate captains and their crews) LAST MINUTE, he sketched up all their designs and everything the week before it was supposed to go out just because he wanted to add more depth to the sabaody arc!
Ok WHAT. The man's a machine. All of them are so unique!
@@Koroto The same thing applies to the seven warlords, One Piece was originally only meant to go after the four emperors, however Oda added it last minute because he thought it sounded cool
@@Koroto one piece was supposed to take 5 years but then oda thought of something cool
@@animeproblem1070 basically the entirety of one piece lmao
Well it wasnt really his idea but the editors or guys in charge (idk what you'd call them). So he was like "aight lemme just whip out some characters and have them end up as one of the best things in the series" lmao Oda so underrated fr.
One of my favorite arcs. It's so tragic, and every time you find someone who read/watched it, they just have so much to discuss and theorize. Watching it together with someone, knowing what's going to happen, while they're just enjoying the rollercoasters and bubbles, it's the best lol
The thing about Kizaru is that even though he's physically as fast as the speed of light, he's not that fast mentally. It still takes him time to react to things, so if you can predict his attacks, it's possible to dodge/cheese them.
Thats not actually true. Theres no basis for assuming that.
@@emperorluffy6001 idk man Kizaru just seems really spacey all the time. I always got the impression that the whole idea for his character is that he's both incredibly fast and very slow at the same time
@@riceyboi5215 I can see that but thats just moreso him being lazy rather than him being "slow" mentally.
False there's no basis for this argument characters relatively early on in the series I have already shown to have a light speed Reaction Time much less somebody like kizaro who would be way way above that human Reaction Time
@@emperorluffy6001 Sorry for the late reply, but I'm pretty sure Kizaru literally states that he doesn't like to fully transform into light because he can't actually control or react fast enough to keep up with its true speed, as well as said light being forced to travel in straight lines making it even more of a pain to navigate with.
That's why he only ever transforms small parts of his body into light at a time, and when he does have to transform fully, he has that yata no kagami move. He uses it to find a path to his target so he can transform into light and follow that path towards them without actually needing to think or react in regards to movement and control.
It might also be why he arrives on the battlefield via cannonball instead of just lazering there. Though it could equally just be Oda making a dramatic entrance for him.
Another thing to note is that none of his moves actually start at light speed. They just rapidly accelerate towards light speed after moving. That's how Rayleigh (and other characters later on) was able to intercept the attacks multiple times. He just made sure they never got the chance to reach maximum speed and thus become unreactable, if that makes sense.
Finally, Kizaru's reaction speeds are fast, but they're not light speed. It could be his Devil Fruit enhancing them, but it could also just be due to his training as a Admiral.
Kizaru having the power of light doesn't really mean he can use it fully, since his powers are limited by his own reaction time, also when he's doing the movement he only goes in straight lines.
Stop spreading misinformation.
@@emperorluffy6001 Which part he said was wrong?
@@speedyweasel681 No he is objectively wrong. He's literally confirmed in the manga to move at lightspeed. lol.
@@emperorluffy6001 I didn't say he couldn't move at light speed tho. But that isn't feasible. If he actually moved at the speed of light he'd move (even if we assume a reaction time of 1/1000000s which would be faaaaar beyond possible) 300.000.000 m/s * 0.0000001s = 300m before actually realizing where he is => Kizaru would probably drown the instant he moves since the most likely place for him to be is in the ocean(or the space).
At the same time we avoid the fact that a kick of Kizaru at the actual speed of light would probably match the destructive power of a few nukes.
If we want to get technical, Let's assume that the One Piece world is similar in size to earth.
If Kizaru were to use the parameters of REAL light, He could fly around the entire earth 7.5 times, In a single second................ A single second, He could literally be anywhere on the planet so fast that humans wouldn't even be capable of perceiving the moment he left and came back.
He could theoretically travel to any position on earth and back to his original location faster than your brain can process and perceive his movement, it would simply just be a temporary acceleration of visual light but he would appear to have not moved as your eyes are only capable of perceiving at a certain frame rate.
TL;DR If Kizaru used the true extent of light he could eviscerate planets, he could move fast enough to effect his perception of time possibly allowing physical alteration of time, He could move faster than humans are even capable of perceiving existence in front of them.
Of course one piece physics shenanigans and nothing happens. Plus Kizaru is a lethargic guy. Either way, it's not believable for him to move at actual speed of light, unless light is different in one piece, therefore not being that overpowered after all.
Half of this comment was basically a ctrl c from reddit forums, as it's agreed on the community that it doesn't make sense. Anyway, power scaling is dumb and this is just a petty way to say that you are wrong in calling me out.
@@lipeeefl Takes a true idiot to apply real world logic to an anime, kizaru literally kicks Hawkins at the speed of light
One word that'll solve all of your power scaleing is HAKI
Or jumble it more
@@sinjunmiller it solves the logia issue at least lmao
@@sinjunmiller honestly seems pretty balanced to me at this point
@@ashdude3058 true
@@SolitaryLark I agree but you know how some people in the OP community are
You don't understand Kizaru's Devil Fruit because you still think that ordinary Human limitations apply to these characters. Get that out of your head. If you're still thinking that Lightpseed should be "untouchable" thats only because you believe these guys are humans.
Yeah I mean Luffy is made of rubber this stuff doesn’t need to make sense.
47:11 The tragedy of Rumbar Pirates already broke me. Oda only gets better at his craft and could write something even more tragic. You’re telling me you want to see more? You’re a sadist.
Haha, what can I say, I like tragedy in my stories 😂😄
There was A LOT to talk about in this arc, I can't fault you for not bringing it up, but... Thoughts on the others Supernova (beside Kid and Law)? Also I agree, Capone's fruit power is awesome.
Most of them were very very intriguing - the prophet/future seeing guy is one I can already see being used for a whole bunch of foreshadowing, and his fruit power was also awesome. I love voodoo-type magic in fantasy, so I really hope to see more of him.
The instrument guy is clearly pretty deceptively powerful, so I'm curious how his powers actually work.
Capone is your typical mafia boss with an awesome fruit power to boot. I think seeing the crew face off against him could be super interesting simply because he can just have waves and waves of enemies to back him up.
The pink haired girl who can turn people into babies is one of those characters that you can't really fight (sort of like the ghost girl in Thriller Bark), so I'm curious how the crew might beat her. (Though her power immediately gave me flashbacks to one of, if not the worst stand user in Jojo haha).
Don't really know where to put the big guy with the wings - seems like a powerful character with a potentially interesting backstory (since the only place we've seen those wings is Skypiea), but not really sure where to pin him just yet.
And lastly - the T-Rex guy seemed kinda meh. I like dinosaurs as much as the next guy, but so far, he was super forgettable.
Not sure if I forgot someone, but those are my 1 sentence summaries of (I think) everyone else. 😄
@@Koroto well “T-rex” guy he actually has the allosaur fruit i don’t blame you they look basically the same used to be a rear admiral in the navy
@@Koroto Thanks for the in-depth reply.
@@Koroto I think you might've missed it, but they actually did say that Urouge (the monk pirate) was from a sky island
@@Koroto It seems you didn't catch it but it was stated that the T-Rex was a marine Rear-Admiral ( 2 ranks below the Admirals and 2 above Smoker )
Also the big guy with wings was from Bierka , Enel's home island that he destroyed ( this was only revealed in supplementary materials that aren't included in the anime )
Inherited Will is not Reincarnation. We've seen many instances of Luffy Inheriting others Wills and fulfilling them.
In East Blue alone, Luffy inherited the will of Coby and took out Alvida, also with Chouchou and took out Mohji and Richie, next was Boodle where Luffy took care of Buggy for him, then Usopp where Luffy took on the Black Cat Pirates, then Sanji and defending Baratie from Krieg, then Nami freeing Cocoyashi from Arlong.
Oda has confirmed that the One Piece will be a physical reward since that would be the only satisfying pay off for this massive journey . Cheese
Did you Know Rayleigh first appearance in Buggy's flashback when he fight Luffy for the first time ... Oda!
AHHHHH can't wait to rewatch/read the manga for the first time to catch all those details.
@@Koroto definitly read the manga there is some change in few arcs
Excellent example that death isn’t always necessary to break hearts in storytelling. My respect for also watching the fillers. 😲
Some NO SPOILER details and opinions
-About Kizaru, IMO while the fruit changes the body to adapt (look at Alvida) there is a limit, so to me Kizaru is a little like the Tiger Beetle, an insect that is so fast it goes blind and as such will run-stop-run-stop to look where its going. So the combination of Kizaru slowing down by himself and some mantra like ability people can fight him, although its necessary a good amount of power to do so
-About Garp not doing anything, that is his way of dealing with it. By not letting Sengoku know the situation and with that focus in the other legend since for Garp what Rayleigh is doing that is not a real problem.
-About Zoro using Haki there, that is an animation mistake. Its a joke for a long time that he is intimidating and give some awful stares and the anime just put a little more emphase on that. No haki here.
-About Doflamingo symbol, you also saw it with Bellamy (Jaya) and at least in the manga the medicine White Beard uses also has that symbol. Anyway, forget the cheese everything is about Smiles now
Thats obviously not the case though since Admirals have Observation.
i see what you did there :)
That last thing is so clever holy crap
Ur in for a wild ride during the next few arcs, tho that’s kinda op in general . Ur probably going to enjoy them a lot, especially one in particular lol. Can’t wait to hear ur thoughts on them. Btw u will never stop watching this show now. Not until the end lol.
I never planned to, I was in for the long haul right from the get-go! 😂
We actually see Rayleigh for the first time in buggy’s flashback in the east blue when he argues with shanks about the north South Pole, he looks a bit different Tim the anime but in the manga he has the same design
What Garp meant by him handling the Rayleigh situation is to just leave Rayleigh alone and Garp takes resposibility, because there is no way for the Navy to capture him without loosing many troops they need for the War with Whitebeard.
Not a spoiler but oda has said it wasn't "the friends you made along the way" also the Roger hearing voices was "the voice of all things" that the official translation of whatever that is
And with this began the beginning to an end
from my understanding, Oda doesn't like killing off characters unless its very important for the story. he's not like DC, he won't kill off characters for shock value or just to make you cry for a bit and then forget about it, he will only kill off someone if it's absolutely needed for the story.
The only time someone really should have died but didn't was Pell story wise and that was influenced by real world events
You are really great at paying a lot of attention to details. The first time i watched onepiece i didnt notice all this things, only on rewatch i could notice many of this things.
So, the weakness of Kizaru's fruit is that 1) When he turns into light to move he loses his directional control, he has to bounce off things much like actual light does. This makes him more predictable if you fight him in an open space and thus more reactable (along with some other things one can do you're not aware of yet). & 2) Because of this he is not constantly fighting at the speed of light. He has light-speed techniques yes like his kicks, but for example when he was clashing swords with Rayleigh he's not swinging at the speed of light.
Remember Logias have to actively "turn on" their element form, otherwise they're just like anyone else.
Yeah he can't actually FIGHT at light speed, I think. The Human brain can't even make the calculations fast enough. He can move at the speed, make straight forward attacks like kicks and punches at that speed, but he cannot quickly flow from one attack tot he next at that speed. Like if he wants to move to you and kick you, he moves to you at light speed, but before he attacks he has to take a moment to take in his environment before he can attack. If he could fight unrestricted at the speed of light, I don't think anyone could beat him.
@@Chrisfragger1 Exactly. You can tell if you pay attention to him in fights he'll do something like move to someoneone's position instantly but then when he actually goes to attack them he's back in human form and like shoots a laser or something like that.
It's consistent with all Logias, Ace cant fight you as a being of pure fire like a Balrog from LotR or something lol.
You are right sort of whenever he was clashing there's a good chance he was moving at a speed of light much weaker characters have shown the ability to move at the speed of light but I do still agree with your pulling
Corection : what destroyed Duval's base was called the Gau Cannon ( bassically the Coup de Burst used as a cannon ) . The Chicken Voyage is just the main of Sunny's figurehead spinning to propel the ship backwards
Cheese
Theres some spoilers in these comments be careful if you havent been spoiled already -Cheese.
One of my favorite crew moments in that final scene was Brook also going out of his way to grab zoros swords for him since he is also a swordsman and knew how important they were and how he also knew what happened in the "nothing happened" moment
I'll just be the 1st to say this: It's just fiction logic. The whole time dilation thing with moving faster than light has been ignored by pretty much every shonen. Dragon Ball characters have been moving faster than light since the Freeza arc at the absolute latest and some of them these days are even moving faster than time itself. (Doesn't make sense? Welp, too bad.)
Heck, even outside of anime we have the Flash, who has been able to run fast enough to travel through time pretty much from the start. Then there's Sonic the Hedgehog from Archie Comics, who is completely immune to time stopping powers purely because of just how fast he is.
Of all the places to draw the line, I don't think this is it.
I vividly remember reading this chapter almost 15 years ago and having to wait several months for the next volume to come out.
I can't wait to hear your thoughts on cheese... I mean, the next couple of chapters.
The Admirals Coats are just drip. lol.
Zoro scene of Haki is a filler .... but you can say Haki!
When I first watched this arc about 2 years ago, I knew everyone was going to be fine, that no one was going to die, but because of everything that was happening, because of everyone’s reactions and responses, I thought that everything ended here. And I’ll tell you right now, this is only the beginning of the pain you are about to suffer.
The Supernovas weren't planed at all , Oda came up with them as he was making their debut chapter ( only having an idea that Kidd will be important ) . He did this because an editor told him the arc needed something more , which is crazy looking back .
Cheese
Something to remember from the land of terrible laughs, (horohorohoro) Moria made a crew of zombies because he lost his living crew in the New World.
Moria specifically said Luffy was too weak for the New World and he would lose his crew.
Just something to chew on.
Was waiting for this 🤩
obs: you can see the same simbol on whitebeard's medication :)
and the capes are just for visuals lol
The scaling is pretty much irrelevant, People reacting to something simply means that they can do that thing. Probably shouldn't be questioned. Nami and Ussop could react to lightning in Skypiea for example, it's simply something they're capable of doing and if someone else hits them it just means they were faster than lightning. Same logic applies with Rayleigh, he's faster than light because he could react and hit Kizaru mid attack. Even then I'd argue that he's not actually lightspeed OR the physics of the one piece universe is completely different and it may not actually apply to the same speed in our world. Light speed one piece arguments are pretty much useless since there so much you can both back it up with and simultaneously debunk it with so I'd just ignore it all together
Don't over focus on the logic of it because it's simply the logic of different verses and the story matters more. Luckily Oda somehow manages to keep the scaling pretty consistent aside from some outliers even if he doesn't care about scaling.
I'd also add that things looking slower in these shows than they should be is obviously simply for audience comprehension. Like sure Luffy could keep up with Electricity with Enel which makes him insanely fast, they're just made to appear slow enough for audiences to be able to watch even if they may be going at said speeds. Best example of this in this arc is Kizaru attacking Apoo with the Mirror attack. He was going likely Relavistic to LS but it was shown slower
But Nami, and Ussop, literally got shot by Eneru, on the marry instantly how can they react if they got hit, i swear my fellow one piece fans are just insane why did you have to write a few paragraphs to convey this, i respect the hustle.
@@joshshrum2764 think about it this way. A Bullet can travel around 1700 mph. It's not as simple as dodging the bullet but the distance. If you dodge the bullet point blank your reaction speed is much higher than if you were to dodge from 50 feet away. The example you gave of enel bodying them was point blank and unexpected which would require faster reaction time since it was slower. Just take the distance and find how much they moved in order to avoid. Namis reaction to it was calced at Mach 413 for the first one with climstact and 909 for the lightning dodge. Which is Massively Hypersonic and more consistent in line with other feats she preformed and scale to. So not necessarily lightning speed but extremely fast nonetheless
I've watched the whole series up until now and I've gotta say, I don't think it's his first time watching this. Gives the vibe of someone trying real hard to give the vibe of a newbie
Fun fact : Rayleigh appeared in Buggy's flashback in the East Blue , though the anime gave him a drastically different design to the current one . Cheese
Not sure if anyone has pointed, the Zoro-haki-moment is not canon. It didn't happen in manga. Toei just add it up to fuck with anime watchers.
But the Zoro moment of trying to cut Carlos was truly insane. It was to show how blood thirsty Zoro can be, from 0 to 100 in a second.
Edit: I don't think in One Piece, there is such thing as reincarnation, except for Brook of course, reincarnated after he died. If it does, Rayleigh would say this to Luffy ''I miss you old friend''
So far, most people reminded of Roger when they met Luffy. To me it is more because Luffy embodies Roger's traits and personalities. The way how Luffy says he wants to be the Pirate King with happiness and couldn't care less what other people think.
Kizaru's attacks move at light speed (or at least what passes for light speed in the OP universe) but he himself doesn't seem to have light speed reaction. Heck he might be the physically slowest top tier fighter ever. Note that he sets the attacks and then turns into light for the impact.
So basically he's like melted cheese.
It melts super fast, but it flows sloooooooooooowly
I'm so confused how does this work? he is lightspeed and he has observation haki. He just hardly cares due to he knows he's a logia and they can't harm him.
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None of those things affect how fast he reacts to stuff.
Yes advanced observation COULD make him react faster, but he's still a slow fighter.
@@OtakuJuanma2 he literally just doesn't car
There's no proof he does not have the reaction time you're just assuming with no real evidence
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Is there evidence that he does though? The one time we saw him fight he just tanked hits and made very slow attacks.
Kisaru may have the power of light but his brain moves slower than a tele snail... but seriously you have to trust oda here it all makes sense in the end^^
6:16 buddy...trust me...
Not to spoil anything but there is A LOT about these two that you don't know... We'll get there when we get there but...phew boy.
Loving the series so far! Was binging your videos for a while!
As heavily into worldbuilding and lore that Oda very much is, he also adheres to the rule of cool. Thus, the capes.
Also, I believe the captains (the leading officers of the military) in Bleach had a similar thing with their capes but a little more lore and character was put behind them. The capes were worn differently and denoted divisions that each lead.
There are more examples elsewhere but I don't know the reason behind it being such a common trope. It does look cool though.
You don't seem to completely get how Kizaru's DF works. It's never true light speed since it would cause such a gigantic explosion everything would just die anywhere near him. We can pretty nicely assume it's 3x the speed as what Enel gets since light is roughly 3x faster than electricity. Even it's "pure lightspeed" is only a thing when he completely turns into light aka when he went after Apoo. When he kicks for example he turns the back of his feet into light so it basically works as a "light speed" jet engine that accelerates his foot that still has it's own weight. These are still one of the strongest kicks we ever see in the series anyways so i'm personally fine with it. If you ask me it's also a visual effect, they kinda have to nerf the speed of all his attacks so we can properly see them like how wind and air based abilites in media are clearly depicted visually for the audience to actually see what happens even if the effect is invisible in-universe
No it is lightspeed. You fans have come up with rationalizations to explain it away because you don't like it.
@@emperorluffy6001 yeah it's light speed and somehow they dont die. so uh anime physics or it isn't really light speed because it's made from a devil fruit and thus it is weakened form of light speed. idk. i dont really care tbh. i just enjoy the anime.
@@whitevortex8323 Uh, thats not an argument. You do realize that One Piece characters are superhuman right? Theres a A LOT of things that "should" kill them but don't. lol. It's not a weakened form of light. It's confirmed natural actual light. Unless you're gonna try to argue that Ace isn't fire. lol.
@@emperorluffy6001 no it's not actually real light
@@bithemit9074 Yes. Yes it is. This is stated. Unless you're also trying to argue that Ace isn't real fire. lol.
I think kizaru can't move faster than his brain can process. So potentially he can move with a speed of light, but since he can't process this speed he just uses light as weapon.
Thats obviously false.
@@jonnjones8263 bro, hes just trying to make sense out of something which just doesn't rlly make much sense.
@@whitevortex8323 It makes sense. Yall are just coming up with unnecessary headcanon to try and explain something that DOESN'T need to be explained. Kizaru is Lightspeed. Period. End of Discussion. It's that simple.
@@jonnjones8263 i think what you're not understanding is what ppl meant to say, i think they mean HE CAN move at speed of light, like, for traveling, but in the middle of the fight you have to react, think and act, and unless you'r brain also thinks at the speed of light (thing that i highly doubt) it's impossible to do all of that in the middle of a battle, if he could trully use his power to that extent he could just slice rayleight 100 times before he has time to react, period, that's how fast light is
@@lordkyruma You're still not understanding why all of that is wrong.
"if he could trully use his power to that extent he could just slice rayleight 100 times before he has time to react, period, that's how fast light is"
That argument MIGHT apply if Rayleigh had the reactions of a Normal Human. He doesn't. When are you gonna get it through your heads that none of these characters are normal humans? These are all Superhuman monsters. Our normal human limitations don't apply. Kizaru is Lightspeed and Rayleigh just happens to be able to keep up with him because he's simply THAT strong. Period.
About the whole moving at the speed of light making you too op in the one piece world. You gotta remember Luffy and Zorro could both move faster than the eye can see at the start of the show
For example for luffy anytime he used gum gum rocket or Zoro when he dissapeard in front of the bounty hunters and they both have gotten much stronger since then
and they are both at this point in time far from the more powerful characters in the one piece world so i hope that gives you an indication that the sheer brute strength that the top dogs have in this world is already reaching broken standards.
Do not forget that Shanks can swim but he is still a yonko
Just wait till he sees white bear 😂
Even powerful characters like other admirals or emperors aren't close to moving at the speed of light, the comparison of Luffy and Zoro moving fast from the beggining doesn't really make the light-speed movement any less op
The reason why the speed of light isn't as broken as he thinks is because of observation haki, but he's still learning about haki, no need to convince him or explain anything
Yeah moving at the speed of light and 90% of anime is not to overpowered
34:09 it did not infact age like swiss cheese but fine wine
To be fair Hachi didn't really have plot armour considering chopper is there and we already know that fishmen can take quite a lot of damage compared to humans.
Edit: But I still get your point about stakes.
PEAK FICTION
what Garp said was "Do you want to fight againts 2 legends?" meaning, we are about to fight against Whitebeard, there is no reason to go after Rayleigh at this point, and him taking care was rather, should any blame were to be given, he would take it
"when does a man die?
when he is forgotten".
how could roger be dead if he lives on in the memory of all?
Actually yes thats both where his name is from silvers Rayleigh you got it both right xD
HA, my theories may be stupid, but at least I pick up on (some, probably not even close to all) name inspirations! 😂
I think you're going to eventually need to switch to the manga. Especially around the 600 episodes, as pacing becomes unbearable in the anime> At least it was for a lot people i know that went through the series, including me. Great video nonetheless.
He could switch to One Pace if he still wants to watch the anime
It’s not as bad when bingeing but we’ll see
Ohhj since i am early for first time i wanted to sqy this that after eps 600 or something it would be good if u will switch to the manga since pacing will become awful and u might not enjoy later arcs so consider this also your op vids are amazing and entertaining as always 🗿
In the managa Rayleigh makes his big entrance in chapter 500 exactly !
Cheese
I felt very sorry for Hachi in that arc in both the anime and manga. My reaction to both manga and anime, it was through the roof.
Oh haha, he thinks the power on display is too much now, and to think it gets more bonkers. (Spoiler below)
Sanji is moving light speed in his fight vs Queen
I have a mental problem with people naming things wrong. If I hear tyrant, one more time, I will cry.
My reason for Kizaru and his fruit is simple: he is Lazy. He knows how strong it is but is just lazy af.
35:11 he wasn’t giving directions
He was giving confirmation on whether or not the one piece was real
16:11 don’t know why since horrible people exist as well in those positions
LETS GOOO
Two years later and we get the answer to how to hit Kizaru.
Ok so about the speed of lighy there are polar oposites in the characters depicting marine admirals for example kizaru is slow in the head a bit and slow reactions which opposes his devil fruit.
You'll see later with some other admirals that it goes with them as well.
I love your thought on time diallation, now how dose that work I wonder? Oh well you will just have to wait and see.
Bonnie doesn't like cheese pizza, but she will eat it, and everything else for that matter...
in Kizaru Vs Rayleigh did you notice that Rayleigh cut Kizaru face .... he could damage a Logia type user!
Imagine not knowing that there anime shows that have characters moving as fast or faster than the speed of light ( cough* dbz cough* fireforce)
The thing is that kizaru can't think and move at speed of light as he is still a human who depends on his body / nervous system to do his thing
I like how people can accept all these crazy things in fiction, but when it comes to moving faster than light that’s where people draw the line.
This dude spoiled derssrosa for himself
I absolutely loved Duval in this arc.
Garp says we can't fight 2 legends because of the incoming war, also Doflamingo is one of my favorite villains that's all I'll say. I know I'm not the first but your prediction got me on the edge of my seat I'm always looking forward to them especially as someone who's fairly caught up. If you've watched the show this long it's slowly shown the story growing up getting into a more mature series and it's slowly been raising the stake when you look back we couldn't really even beat crocodile without some outside help. The only reason we made it this far was by pushing through getting lucky which our friend Blackbeards Doctor Q said it in Jaya "he's very lucky" 🧀
:)
Admiral cape item description :
"The proof of reaching the rank of Admiral , the second highest position one can achieve in the marines .
Rarity : S+
Effects :
Increases HP by 20% , Armor Class by 3 and increases Drip by up to 80% .
Grants the "Troop Rally" ability , allowing the user to increase the morale of Marine soldier in close proximity .
Also allows access to the Marines supply of Cheese "
How much drip increase you get from becoming the Pirate King?
I like cheese almost as much as I like One Piece and your videos on One Piece. Just caught up to your latest in this series, which I figured was the perfect time to legitimately contribute to your experiment.
Oh wow I did expect it to be high but I didn't expect it to be number 1. For me it ranks definitely below Enies Lobby but still pretty high. At least considering the arcs up to now. There are some higher in my opinion but that only highlights the quality the series has overall.
Some one still might be in control of fish man island someone with a great beard perhaps.
No cheese for you
All this talk about luffy's connections to roger feel so nostalgic to me. It also makes me realize that a certain joyous individual doesn't get mentioned until the end of fishman island
42:16 the marines almost lost an admiral
I really really recommend you that instead of rewatching the anime once you finish it , go and read the manga. I am not a big fan in this case of the anime version, because they drag so many things, also the art is so much better and expressive in the manga. Plus you can read small side stories and Oda answering some question, sometimes just random and funny question that I love.
That is very much the plan! Not sure how long you've been around, but a large reason why I didn't originally start with the manga is availability. I much prefer reading a physical copy, but getting it where I live would seriously break the bank. Once I get closer to being caught up I'll see what I can do - even if I can't get my hands on the physical thing, I'll read it digitally :)
there is a censure scene when Law meer Kid first time he give him the middle finger!
I can't wait for the new episode but it also makes me sad because i know we have only a few arks to go... will you review the latest OP movies too? Some of them are really good...
Who knows, maybe. 🤷♂️ Are they canon or?
And I wouldn't worry about me being somewhat closer to caught up, getting to 1000 will probably still take another 9 months 😅
@@Koroto i think the new movie about shanks will be canon not sure when it takes place tho...the others aren't canon but the animation is pretty good... some of the movies do kinda contain spoilers so watch out (you should be fine in 2-4 arks)
Ahh, then I might check them out at some point (probably once I'm caught up at the earliest). The problem I have with non-canon movies is that I find they are even more detached from the story than filler arcs - they by their nature just have 3 acts where they are forced to return to where they began, which makes it very hard for me to get invested. Filler arcs of course have the same problem, but for some reason, I feel like they flow better than movies do, be it due to the serialized nature of it or something else.
Though yeah, we'll just have to wait and see - a canon movie about Shanks, however, sounds like a must-watch 😂
Even normal Humans in One Piece are just way more durable than your average fantasy charakter and you have to accept that, if you want to really enjoy the Show. I mean an average One Piece Human can get thrown thru a 1 meter (metric system LUL) stone wall and still be fine. Also Things like Light speed and Physics in general might be really differnt then in our Universe, they are based on our concepts of Physics so you understand them, but if you strictly follow our Rules most of the Powers in One Piece would not works. So softening or changing those rules in a consistent manner is what makes this a Dreamworld where Oda can use all of his creativity. You kinda said it your self: "... or he is moving faster than Light and thats just silly", exactly One Piece is just silly and is suposed to be that.
Great, my friend about to held a wedding in 5 days. Hopefully I got rid of this stupid whooping coughs.
Also, I wish they serve wine and *_cheese_* platter. (^ w ^)
Not 100% certain, but I think the Celestial Dragons may be heavily inbred. They don;t say it, but they have the look and feel of the kind of nobles that don't 'sully the bloodline' with common blood.
Don't listen to people spreading misinformation in the comments. Kizaru is factually Lightspeed. Characters can hit him because the characters in this world are superhuman enough to keep up with him. Your problem is you think being lightspeed should make him untouchable. That would be the case if characters in One Piece were ordinary humans. But they're not and never have been.
His yatamirror ability seems to contradict that statement
If he can always travel at the speed of light why does he need a special move to do it??
@@SolitaryLark He doesn't need a special move to do it. lol.
@@emperorluffy6001 rewatch or reread then you’d be wrong.
@@SolitaryLark No I'm not. I've re-read One Piece more than anyone else. Kizaru DOES NOT need a technique to travel as a beam of light because he's been shown moving as light without it. Yata Mirror is only used so he can move at ANGLES because Light typically moves in a straight line. Thats it. He doesn't need it for speed or to move as Light.
Yes the Light Light fruit pust so much argument. but i think even Kizaru has power of light he was limit with his human ability.... this what i think simple
Human limitations don't exist in One Piece.
For me the most devastating part of the Strawhat getting annihilated is Nami and Robin.
To Nami Luffy is her savior. He saved her village, he freed her from slavery. and she has been with Luffy for the longest time. She has seen Luffy overcome impossible odds, saved countries and stand tall gainst overwhelming odds. the amount of trust and respect she has for Luffy is immeasureable so what does she do when death is coming for her? in her last moments she turns to Luffy and begs him to save her again as she knows he has done many times before for many people. And Luffy fails. it's heart breaking.
Robin has live life full of betrayal and persecution. Luffy waged a war against the worl government just to take her back. he finally has the family she always dreamed off. and not even year later she is ripped away from them. it's like cruel fate, imagine thinking you're cursed your entire life and when things finally looks a little bit good this happens.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that. In her last moments before being erased, Nami begs Luffy for help the exact same way she did in Arlong Park. But this time...he can't help her.
Dude this whole video I was like He’s right butttttt he’s wrong too 😂🤷🏻♂️
You know the opponent is tough when Luffy the dude who never gives up and usually dives head first into danger tells you to run.
Consider this, you clearly are emotionally invested despite the lack of deaths. Everyone complains about the lack of "stakes", but then watch/read a thousand episodes/chapters.
This youtuber is AMAZING in noticing things and theorizing. I have mentioned the same in other videos and I'm sorry that I repeat myself, but in every video he blows my mind. Well done.
This time the reason I mentioned this is that he noticed the Donflamingo/Law symbols.
On a side note: All the supernova (Kid, Law, etc) were created from scratch at the last moment by Oda, because he felt that this arc was boring.
Time dilation works only on things other than light, so if Kizaru turns into light before moving at speed of light, there would be no time dilation probs.😜😜
The only way to beat Kizaru is to cheese the Logia-type DF’s invulnerability.
I honestly think you may need to make a SS tier for some arcs . Cheese