Even if they get through all that and more it will still end up sadly .... After all without usopp there would be no way to find out about the great " con D.oriano " 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
My man, if the crew dont follow nami right after she stole the merry, them the plot of her being robbed by the corrupted marine would go on and the entire village would die fighting arlong in a last stand, god knows what nami would do after that.
There’s a video on a Zoro and Sanji fire, creator, named (melon tee). I honestly don’t think they could have any other relationship I’m loving this video
You forgetting the reason the Merry lasted as long as it did was because of the many patches and fixer ups Ussop did on it prior the events of Water 7/Enies Lobby. Without him there to provide the constant care as he did it would probably break much sooner especially since a lot of the repairs he did were the during Skypeia Arc.
I see your point, but someone else would've just nailed wood to the Merry. It's not like he has some expertise, that's why they need Franky in the first place. I don't think it's out of this world to assume Sanji or Zoro could use a hammer
@@ShutUpDenny ...nah, usopp is also an inventor, I mean, he invented the clima tact for nami and a bunch of other gadgets for himself, he was easily the best guy to take care of the ship before franky. Sanji never uses his hand other that to cook and zoro might end up destroying the ship while helping like luffy did.
Aren't we forgetting that after Alabasta, the strawhats where surrounded, and the only reason they could escape this surroundment was because Usopp destroyed 2 navy ships with 1 cannonball? Also, Sogekings sniping of spandam was actually pretty significant, as it prevented Spandam from just dragging Robin towards a navy ship, and going trough the gates of judgement.
- whole crew defeated by Perona at Thriller Bark - Luffy and Law turned into toys by Sugar - Nico Robin turned over to the World Government and possibly thrown into Impel Down or even executed And that is just when he was a literal life-saver. Then there is all the other stuff Usopp did, like providing Nami with the Clima Tact, maintenance work on the Going Merry, and so on and so forth. He was also an MVP on Little Garden if I remember correctly, and recently he helped in a lot of small but important ways during the Onigashima raid.
Usopp saved the lives of Kin'emon and Okiku from being engulfed by the flames in Onigashima. Even though they didn't want to be saved due to their samurai code and feeling that their purpose was fulfilled, Usopp goes against that notion and makes them see that their lives still hold value.
They straight up die in Dressrosa with amnesia, if it wasn’t for usopp’s clutching up with that snipe. Usopp is actually very valuable. Not to mention the ship probably would’ve sink a long time ago if it wasnt for Usopps constant repairs.
I'd say usopp snipe in dress rosa is top 3 most clutch moment in the whole show. He literally saved luffy and law from being erased from memory and existence .
well that could be the case with sugars power, however something I've thought about is how her power could be similer to Law's power (to cut people in half) in a sense that it doesn't work if their haki is too strong, it is never confirmed but i think sugars could act in the same way, too much haki? can't defeat them. which is why i don't think it would have worked on Luffy. but this is just speculation and sugar could actually just be broken.
If we are going with the assumption that Nami never gets caught by Mr 3 because Sanji stays with her, then they never end up going to Drum Island in the first place. The only reason they went was because she got sick, and the only reason she got sick was because she was shirtless on Little Garden for a time because Usopp burning up the wax statue burned her shirt off, and she got bit by a bug. I guess it is feasible that the bug could still bite her with her shirt on, they can crawl under clothes after all, but Dr. Kureha's words to her, which were something along the lines of "were you running around shirtless on a tropical island or something?" to me implies that had she had her shirt on she wouldn't have gotten bit. So there is a very real possibility that without Usopp with them, they also don't get Chopper.
Her legs or her neck are the most likely places she could still have easily gotten bit. Her neck was fully exposed and she was wearing a miniskirt. that bug was going to be able to bite her regardless if she was wearing a shirt or not.
Wouldn't they have to go to Drum Island regardless, since the only way to survive the Grand Line is by following the Log Pose which always takes them to the next island
@@shinobix4925 the log pose in little garden takes one year to point to the next island. However they were able to get the eternal pose to Alabasta there, but when Nami becames sick, they stop in the next island that happens to be Drum, not because of the pose. So without Nami being sick, they would go directly to Alabasta as quick as possible in order to help Vivi.
I love how interconnected One Piece is! The fact that you can take the "weakest" member of the crew out of the story and change sooooo much shows just how much thought Oda puts into making his characters feel important.
I mean, strength is irrelevant in this case. It’s the interactions that matter for the most part unless the story is devoid of character interactions and development. Dragon Ball wouldn’t be the same without Bulma, Yamcha, or even Launch. It’s pretty basic in creating a story and while Oda is good at telling a story, making a character important to the story isn’t impressive. What he does well that is impressive is making them relevant throughout the entire story (well, excluding Chopper) and makes the readers care about them.
Its common thing for a story lol, I am not saying one piece is not good story, it is actually really good but all the stories work this way, if you take out an important character in a story whole story will change.
@@SirDubbs no she is not, she is helpful in some situations like usopp, like she was whole motivation for naruto to beat up gaara, she was in defense in land of waves which made naruto and sasuke go against zabuza, she took care of naruto and sasuke after they went down after orochimaru fight.
@@vulturebeast I agree but I also think that Robin would not have just stood there and watched Luffy lose without saying anything. Even if they aren't best friends, hearing Robin yell "Beat him so we can all go back together," would have had a similar motivating effect as when Usopp did it.
also barthalmu the barior guy cried seeing ussop for the first time othere people like robin he didnt cry.epp 679 around 17-18 mark. Also robin face when she held ussop a few epp back after he saved her from suggar. Robin dosent react to other people like she did with ussop
I think this goes to show form the video and comments that Usopp is a strong support for the crew. Even though he’s not the best in battle due to his cowardice, his intelligence, handiwork, and spirit is what keeps the crew afloat, especially during pre-time skip. It no longer seems that way anymore post time skip, but without Usopp, or even other members of the crew, everything would’ve fallen apart sooner or later. Usopp definitely has the role of the sniper because he’s considerably the jack of all trades or something of that latter
@@GamerConnoisseurReiThey wouldn't have been able to turn everyone back from toys in the first place, nor even able to rally the fairies as effectively as Usopp did.
In long ring long land, Luffys afro catches a piece of mirror, allowing him to redirect Foxys slow slow beam and making the fight an absolute wash. Without the fro, there's no telling if luffy would win, seeing as he was too slow to dodge the slow slow beam. I think that is a solid place to have the crew fail
@@Samuel-qc7kg tbh the slow slow beam's lightspeed attack is devastating to a pre-timeskip luffy, the only thing close to that attack speed he faced prior was enel and... well that's a wash
There are few things to keep in mind. 1. The crew might be caught by the marines in the end of Alabasta, given how Usopp destroyed two of the ships making it easier to escape. 2. The afro was important to the Foxy fight, and the only other person who seemed to even care about it was Sanji, so high hopes that he'd bring it to them. 3. Merry would realistically break apart before Water 7. Usopp wasn't the best shipwright yeah, but he still kept repairing the ship and delaying her breaking down for water 7. Realistically, The ship would probably break down an arc or 2 earlier. Either Jaya, their fall off the sky island or Long ring long island
dont forget but usopp help take down the mole grandma and bat guy so without him chopper probably would have died or went monster point to save himself which would have been worse for everyone cause he couldnt control it
Another thing to note is that without Usopp's strong ties to Dorry and Brogy after Little Garden, the straw hats likely wouldn't have been able to get help from Oimo and Kashii at Enies Lobby either.
I would argue that the gang most likely get stuck on Skypeia just due to Ussop not being there to do any repairs. It's possible that the spirit of the merry still exist, but I'm pretty sure that the attempts at repairing were still needed for the Merry to get the rest back together after all the damage she takes going up to skypeia and getting thrown on the altar
Don't forget that one of the main reasons Robin didn't just give up was because Sogeking made that motivational speech to Robin on the train to believe in Luffy. Also they wouldn't even get there that fast without convincing the giants to defect. Merry would of course also not show up to save them, as it was Usopp crying over it that made Franky drop it so Iceburg could find it on the beach.
At the end of One Piece, the narrator gives his final briefing of how the crew lived out the rest of their days before revealing himself to be Ussop, the great storyteller.
without nami zoro would find out the real way to get to laughtale was to use the compass through the grandline's whacky magnetic field. after all, such a scraggily path is a mere straight line to him
Yea Perona immediately came to my mind when I read the title. The monster trio being completely useless against her powers but Usopp being immune to it was one of the funniest scenes in the entire series. I was laughing my ass off when I saw it the first time :D
Literally the most clutch character in the crew. I’m so happy that all of the crew are worth something and it’s not just Luffy being the only useful one.
Usopp saved the strawhats from sinking post alabasta. It was when the marine ships were shooting the Merry with spears. If Usopps godly aim wouldn't be there then they would've sunk
A fun idea I just pondered, is that shortly after the crew leaves syrup Island, usap realizes he does want to join them. Somehow someway he is able to track them, and still comes in as soegaKing on the train at CP9. Everybody who met him at Sierra Island would probably not remember him by his basic features, but when the mask comes off they would all recognize him, and ask him to join the crew again. This time he'd say yes.
I love this idea! If one would do this with Nami all these funny short scenes with some bad, wacky weather would become much more dangerous for the Crew than any antagonist. 😂
I'm glad you made this video, dude. Removing a single character in this hypothetical scenario really makes you take notice of how the story beats and structure of One Piece is set up. Usopp helps in foreshadowing, reminding, and helps cohesively involve the Straw Hats more with, the major plot-important Giants; bolster's the emotional goodbye with the ship thanks to his personal involvement with Kaya, and really just makes more big setpieces/emotional moments happen with his everyman persona and his big connection with Luffy. Usopp really is the center of a lot of things with One Piece, at least emotionally.
Great video! To be fair to Usopp though I don't think they would be able to escape sky island without his connection to merry and the klabauterman. Because Chopper rips the mast off of merry to stop the fire, without klabauterman or Usopp's ability to do a mediocre patch the straw hats would be stranded without the merry being able to move to another island.
Sorry Long comment, lol! XD... Overall, you are being too generous by giving the crew too many chances to progress. Sadly I think they would not get off Little Garden. Usopp's bag of tricks was needed to destroy the wax structure & he also got Luffy out of control of the girl with the paint control ability (Miss Goldenweek). Even if Sanji and Nami are there. There would now be 6 Villains [Mr 3, Mr 5, Miss Goldenweek, Miss Valentine & the 2 unluckies] to fight! Since Sanji did not take the unluckies out at Mr 3 camp. Sanji will not fight any ladies, so Nami will 1 v 2. With her current level, she will be easily defeated by the 2. Also, since Sanji rushes to battle, I think Mr 3 will subdue him with wax [Note Luffy is out of commission due to Miss Goldenweek]. Their journey ends here. Usopp, due to his weakness, is the one who always analyzes fights before going in. Allowing him to think about creative ways to beat his opponents. Usopp destroying the wax structure came out of his nature to assess the situation, and no one could have thought of that but him. Even if someone thought about it. They would need Usopp's bag of tricks that had the tools needed to take down the structure. So it's GG for our straw hats here :(
I enjoyed this thought experiment with the "generous pivot," but I would like to mention that, as others have pointed out, Sogeking (Usopp's friend) both stalled Spandam enough for Franky to arrive there, and was the one who "air mailed" the keys unto the bridge. Those are quite crucial elements of Usopp's/Sogeking's presence. However, using the "generous pivot" idea, maybe Franky has managed to reach Robin & Spandam just in time to psychologically stun Spandam enough for Franky to land some hits and stalling until the rest of the crew arrives with the keys. That still leaves the part where Usopp motivates Luffy to stand up one more time. Borrowing your "generous pivot" again, maybe, MAYBE some Dues Ex Machina occurs where the Strawhats manage to put a seastone cuff unto Lucci, and thus not defeating him but allowing themselves to flee. It was done by Oda in Whole Cake Island. But even with that seemingly magical solution to the Enies Lobby arc, the crew's journey is pretty much over at this point. People here have pointed out that the Going Merry had been repaired by Usopp throughout the journey thus far -- amatuerishly, but somewhat repaired nonetheless. Again, with another "generous pivot," maybe the Going Merry was looked over by the now-peaceful Alabasta kingdom? And maybe the crew had landed on some random island along the way where they befriended the local populace and in order the Going Merry received some light repairs to keep it going until Water 7? I find it quite unlikely that the ship would have been manifesting its own klabautermann on either Skypiea or Water 7/Enies Lobby. How would the crew escape from the area without the Going Merry? I don't know, and it feels a bit too generous, even for a "generous pivot" to have them somehow taking over a battleship or managing to flee on a raft boat. And that's without addressing the issue of facing Perona on Thiller Bark. A nice video. It would be interesting to hear your thoughts regarding the other members not joining the crew. How the Strawhats' story will look like then?
I've given this topic a lot of thought myself over the years as an Usopp fan and people stating he isn't needed. I think they honestly fall at Little Garden without Usopp myself. I felt you were a little too generous with this arc. Wall of text but hear me out: Sanji won't bond with the giants like Usopp does because he's going to be too busy trying to get Nami to safety. Luffy and Usopp's relationships with the giants ends up being key to escaping the island at the end of the arc, but that'll be largely irrelevant in this version as Broggy's fate is sealed without Usopp's kit. Luffy and Sanji can't break the wax at this point(without using the wax to do so as shown in the Luffy vs. Mr. 3 fight), Zoro can't cut through it as we saw in canon and even though Nami will be able to work out how to save them, she doesn't have anything to hand that she can use to melt it since they will have given all the alcohol on the ship to Broggy to prevent themselves from being eaten by him earlier. Zoro, Vivi and Broggy die here as nothing can save them from the wax in this scenario. With Vivi dead they lose their main drive to go to Alabasta. Let's say they try to do get the Eternal Pose and decide to avenge her and save her people...but Broggy is dead as they couldn't melt his wax. Dorry cannot defeat the Island Eater alone after his injuries and the crew are swallowed. The adventure ends. If they don't get the Eternal Pose, Nami will want some time to think about their next move, especially if the Island Eater is revealed to her. She dies within a week due to the Kestia bite she recieves on the island. Luffy and Sanji can try to leave the island but the Grand Line weather will sink them quickly. The adventure ends. TL;DR: No one has anything that can save Zoro, Vivi and Broggy from becoming wax statues and that screws everyone over in the end. Of course that's just one scenario, but Little Garden really does feel like the very first place they'd truly fall without Usopp. It seems really minor and like anyone could carry this stuff...but they don't. Usopp's the only one who carries tools and useful items at all times.
Little Garden wouldn't be an issue. Even if Zoro, Vivi, and Nami still got caught because Sanji went to find food, pretty sure a chain smoking chef could create a fire to melt them free. Luffy also broke the pillar with the wax mallet on his legs, so one more better aimed wax punch/kick could've broken them out. The giants would be irrelevant. When it can time to leave, Sanji and Luffy took out Mohmoo in seconds. Add Zoro and the World Eater is gone just as quick. They will just kill it, possibly eat it, and not "go straight no matter what" on advice from Dorry and Broggy. They still end up on Drum Island as they found it by plot luck in the first place. Their log pose was never set from LG and the eternal was to Alabasta. Would still chance upon Wapol and learn of Drum.
@@BG-bk8ln Even when Luffy had Mr. 3's flame there was nothing to set fire to to create a big enough blaze. Usopp even points out the flame is too tiny to do anything on it's own. The alcohol rope and Karoo having wrapped it around is the only reason this plan worked. Sanji can have the lighter on him but he needs something to set on fire. That wax isn't going to melt in time otherwise. That wax mallet plan would rely on Mr. 3 to constantly make the same error over and over again since every time Luffy hit the wax with wax both pieces shattered. The sheer size of the wax candleabra is going to take a long time to smash...and Mr. 3's frankly more intelligent than to make the same mistake enough times to make that viable. Smashing Vivi or Nami with the hammer probably wouldn't end well either honestly. According to the official magazine Mohmoo is 36 meters tall. The Island Eater is 715m tall. Laboon was 400m tall. Laboon ate the crew and their ship and there was nothing they could do against him and this creature is almost twice Laboon's size. Luffy, Zoro and Sanji can do everything they want to try and fight this thing, they're still getting eaten. They haven't been able to train enough to beat something like that at this point as the Laboon incident is only a few days prior to Little Garden. The giants, who are considerably more powerful than the Monster Trio at this point are required to kill it.
Usopp is one of the most underrated characters, objectively there are quite a few situations in the anime where the Straw Hats would have lost, or died without his help. Yeah that is the case for other members too but he has earned his place on the crew.
interesting idea for a video! though to be fair to usopp, without him loving the merry as much as he did, the merry probably wouldnt have developed her klabautermann, and even if she had, no one would have been going to pee in the night on skypiea to see it! which makes merry much less of an actual character and more of just a ship that they sadly would have to replace ): sad to think about tbh
You see, without Sogeking (Usopp's friend) handcuffing himself to Zoro, that means that Zoro would never have defeated King in Wano. Sogeking was *clearly* giving Zoro some essential training so that he could overcome bigger challenges in the future, and it paid off. This is the reason that Zoro had become as strong as he has, and the reason why Zoro only lost *one* eye after the time skip instead of both eyes.
Damn. What an interesting idea. Great video. It really highlights how interconnected everything is in this world/story. Lynchpins everywhere! Also, does Usopp speak things into existence with his lies or are those just coincidences? Like would the Island Eater even appear if Usopp never talked about it? 🤔 My only complaint is that the entirety of this video was way too easy to guess based on those AI generated pics.
It’s funny how the weakest members are the the ones most important ones when it comes to outside of combat. Without our long nosed friend, they would’ve failed at sky island or water seven. If they somehow didn’t fail there then at dressrosa they would just loose when sugar is about to feed luffy and law the fruit
That is what makes the crew so great. Each one of them is extremely valuable. Nami and Chopper have the most important positions of doctor and navigator. While Usopp is great in a lot of different things plus sharpshooting is highly needed in sea battles. Plus his various inventions are very helpful. Honestly to me the least useful combined combat and other factors are Brooke. Aside from him, everyone else is more or less the same amount of usefulness.
This I guess is a perfect essay on why Usopp was such a polarizing character at first but eventually became a fan favorite and meme generator. He started as nothing more than a joke character, a walking gag that SOMETIMES had an emotional moment. Even in the arcs where he was supposed to be the focus, Syrup Village and Little Garden, he was overshadowed and has minor impact. Then Water 7 happened and almost everyone's perception of him changed. We saw him have a fully fleshed out, 3 dimensional character for the first time. We saw him badly beaten and have it not played up for laughs, saw his insecurities and home sickness boil over, saw his ingenuity shine when pushed too far, saw how far he's willing to go for his friends even when not a part of the crew anymore, met his awesome friend Soge King, saw him learn more about what it means to be a Warrior of the Sea from Elbathe giants, saw him finally come into his own and realizing that even though he can't fight like the monster trio he still has a lot value to the crew, saved Robin and had a moment of genuine remorse. And the fans rejoiced that Usopp was more than just a joke now.
That is awesome to hear. Because by the end of this, you had to make a billion pivots to keep the Straw hats on track. Usopp might have not defeated some bad guy no one else could defeat, but he did provide a support to the crew that added up little by little to eventually saving everyone and permanently changing the dynamic of the show. The little acts of love for the Merry and the many laughs he had with Luffy both showing their true power at the climatic moment of Ennies Lobby is poetic.
Not sure Merry makes it to Sky Island without Usopp. But also without Usopp it would be easier for them to get another ship before then. But would a different ship have survived the knock-up stream? Probably easier for the exercise to not consider this angle.
In the anime, Usopp had joined the crew before they reached the Island of Strange Animals. Perhaps in this alternate timeline where the crew already has Merry but not Usopp, Gaimon decides to join them.
I haven't noticed anyone else say this but in nami's battle with CP9 she wouldn't have been able to tinker with the dials because the main reason that the strawhats have so many dials is from usopp trading rubberbands with the skypians for the dials
ussop also has saved the whole crew 2 times in the thriller bark with his super negative thoughts to fight against perona's hollows and dressrosa when he "sniped" sugar to save luffy and law
I think the fact that there is so many what-ifs and branching paths you could take with an Usopp-less crew goes to show how important he is on the crew, even if he isn't a powerhouse in terms of fighting.
no going merry robin gets taken to imple down they lose at thriller bark best case scenario. with that said i wonder how brook would fare against perona.
Really good video! Next we just need to see Usopps side with him going out to sea alone to become the great captain Usopp. After watching this I keep thinking of different scenarios like what if Vivi did go with the Strawhats after defeating Crocodile and saving Alabasta, or What if Johnny and Yosaku joined the crew, what if Sanji didnt join, what if Paulie became the Strawhats shipwright. Endless possiblities. keep up the good work!
Missed an important part in Arlong Park: Usopp saves Gen's life by distracting Arlong very early in the arc. Maybe Arlong would keep Nojiko and the rest of the town alive as bargaining chips, but Gen was half of what kept the town from throwing their lives away by fighting Arlong. On the other hand, if Usopp wasn't there to stop them, there's no doubt the monster trio would attack Arlong as soon as they arrived; whether Nami changes sides and asks for Luffy's help could come down to whether Arlong stole her saved-up treasure yet. Worst case scenario, she makes them leave, and THEN Arlong takes her savings, leaving her broken with no one to rescue her and the Straw Hats literally lost at sea. Even if she does flip, it's a more desperate fight, with Nami having to take on Chuu, since Usopp isn't there to draw him away, and without the inspiration of Gen's pinwheel, Luffy won't get stuck and will attack Arlong right away. Wild how much changes by removing one character!
i think the merry breaks down FAR before water 7. usopp was pretty much the crew's shipwright until franky joined, and i dont think any of the other straw hats are at all good at handicraft or fixing a ship in any way. usopp might not be a shipwright, but he absolutely still better at repairing anything than the rest combined.
Literally Usopp literally kept them going. I mean he pretty much served every role on that ship before an expert came along except captain and navigator. He patched up both the ship and the crew. That ship likely wouldn't have even made it past alibastar or even to their without him. Nami definitely would have been killed without the climitate and she definitely isn't a craftsman to have made great use of the dials. Very generous on how they would have gotten by without him. Once Nami dies they are pretty much stuck without a new navigator even if their boat could still sail.
You did not consider the full implication of losing Afro Luffy. Without Usopp, Luffy LOSES to Foxy without question. The only reason he won is because he had a shard of glass lodged in his 'fro that reflected the slow-slow beam. And without Usopp's guidance, Luffy's ADHD ass isn't gonna consider the radical implication of The 'Fro before getting destracted by a gladiator helmet or something. So without Usopp, the Straw Hats lose an extra crewmate, possibly Luffy himself to the Foxy pirates.
If usopp didn't repair the ship they will need to stop so many time to repair the ship or buy a new one so what i think is that most of the crew will not be in the crew because they will need to stop so many times to repaur the ship and that will change the direction they go because of the different islands they need to go to repair or buy a new ship and the biggest difference is the member they will add after sanji is a guy who can repair the ship
My man you are really underselling Ussop,he was one of the most important members.Patching up the Merry and acting as Helmsman until Franky was recruited,aswell as an important combatant early on.
its also entirely possible they die as early as arlong park because without usopp, chew is not removed from the main battle, which allows him to just dive in and kill luffy as soon as he falls in the water since no one is strong enough to stop him that isn't already fighting someone else. once luffy dies it's just a matter of picking off sanji and zoro and then that's game. arlong wins.
and don't act like the minute luffy's thrown in the water, he wouldn't just instantly dive in to attack him. that's perfect bait for zoro and sanji, and if they don't take it, luffy dies anyways. usopp leading chew away from the battlefield saved them because i honestly think that they only barely managed to win because they could keep every remaining enemy busy and away from luffy long enough to free him. hatchan with zoro, kuroobi with sanji, and arlong with his own ego.
I keep seeing this argument, and I can’t help but roll my eyes when I think back to haters who say Usopp was useless during that battle and “practically unneeded”. Okay, really? 🙁 When you take him out the equation suddenly things seem so exhausting.
Without Usopp, the crew realizes early on they need a sniper. Luckily Dr. Chopper is a brilliant surgeon and is able to perform open-heart surgery, accessing Sniper Island, and recruiting Sogeking during the Alabasta saga
To be completely fair he was the MVP for solid portion of thriller bark and dressrosa. In thriller bark he was the only one that personas df couldnt incapacitate and without him taking her out of the game the straw hats might not have gotten as far as they did. Similarly in dressrosa usop warranted the most attention for his ability to keep sugar and the hobi-hobi fruit in check.
In water 7 without usopp nobody would have got to Robin in time and they would have never seen her again he was shooting from the top of the tower that's why sanji told him to do only what he could do
Huh? You're mixing up characters. That was sogeking, he could still have gotten involved, since he was clearly in water 7 already, for usopp to ask for his help
After Skypeia they fell with the merry all the way back down to the ocean. With Ussops collection of dials he saved not only the merry but the entire crew from drowning in the middle of the ocean.
They barely make it up to the Ark Maxim as is, without Sanji's interference Enel wins. Doublefinger helping out is already incredibly generous, but Skypeia is an absolute death knell, all the characters are accounted for, and Upper Yard crashes down in pieces into the blue sea. As generous as you can possibly be the story ends here... Although of course only if you try and make it line up, in a more realistic scenario they'd have a completely different cook, and probably loose at Arlong Park because Sanji is the one who freed Luffy... or they'd never get to Arlong Park, and they might even have a whole extra adventure instead of the Baratie, and if that adventure made enough money Nami might even be able to buy her village after stealing from the boys. I think if you don't have Usopp they either just die, or bum around East Blue for several months and make a much larger and more normal pirate crew... which of course means both project Utopia and Deathpeia both succeed, although even if Utopia works they wouldn't have Pluton without travelling to Wano so I can't see that going great for Crocodile, and Enel wouldn't have the survival game to change out his Vassals, he'd still have the same 4 dudes go to the moon with him; since we didn't see much of what went on on the moon that could have been a big deal... or they could have all suffocated because there's no air, who knows what One Piece moon physics are?
If usopp never joined its end of story. You avoided all the pit falls in order to wish it would work , but in reality the story would end or change completly whit completly new character.
8:13 that picture of Nami with the battle axe and robotic limbs...That looks like a reference to one of my favorite One Piece fanfictions: Of Pop greens and Tangerines.
Tbh a lot of the time I just think "Well but Butterfly Effect" cause you can't really take away a main point of the story but keep it going the exact same way just different imo
I don’t like how so much couldn’t be done without usopp, I mean it’s so cute and stuff, but I’m one of those people that can’t appreciate usopps value. Even tho he’s definitely one of the most helpful charachters.
@cowabungoid Uda is not allowing my man to grow, even after the time skip. The god Usopp moment is funny and iconic but it frustrated me a bit lol like for God's sake give my man one moment to shine, like Sogeking burning the world government flag.
@@Subpar1O1 I was so saddened to see this (all the character hate). When Usopp became my favorite character right when he made his appearance I didn’t realize how much of an ugly place the internet was until now. Becoming a fan of Usopp is really a brave thing itself 😧
Just saw this video in recommended love the video usopp is my favorite straw hat always pushing through his fears and developing as a brave warrior of the sea !
Usopp is lowkey underestimated because he provides comic relief, but he's a Strawhat thru and thru. It's very clear the crew wouldn't be where it is without everyone's contribution. The show isn't just "Luffy and his helpers". Usopp is incredibly resourceful, pirates should fight to have him in their crew. He's pretty obviously one of the world's best snipers, and even tho he doesn't use a conventional weapon that's actually BETTER, because his unconventional weapons are actually more effective. He has shown to be able to use observation haki to aim with incredible precision in case of emergencies. He's a talented inventor, who studied Skypiea's technology and was able to apply it to a number of contraptions. He created Nami's weapon and perfected it. He's able to operate heavy guns with extreme precision. He's pretty cunning and can come up with very smart tactical plans on the fly. He beat a few opponents with OP hax powers that couldn't be easily dealt with via physical means by tricking them. Albeit not as experienced as Franky, he can do emergence repairs to a ship or other machinery. After timeskip, he has knowledge and use of various special plants with powerful effects. Even tho he's not particularly strong, he has impressive physical resilience, as shown multiple times during his fights. He acts cowardly due to lack of confidence but that actually turns into an advantage since it helps him survive dangerous situations, and he is still extremely corageous if the situation calls for it.
With out usopp NAMI wouldn't have her weapons and they couldn't go fishing and with out usopp they would have taken Robin and with out usopp Luffy would have lost to sugar
They end at Ernie’s lobby but if you sugarcoat it they can get to thriller bark but by plot armor they can probably surpass it if their SUPER lucky they can get to dressers but by time it wraps💀💀
Nice video🎉 But i can easily argue and prove that They won't get this far just because Usopp repairing the Ship. Nami won't have clima takt either. Usopp saving Robin from Aokiji was badass. Arlong's commander who Usopp Defeated would help arlong in battle.
@@felixdeygriffin5294 Yes. And Merry's Klabauterman fixed the ship in skypea. I don't without Usopp , merry won't have such connection to the crew. Merry thanked for fixing it up for many times.
I think even if everything played out as it did they would have been done sooner, the one keeping the merry going was ussop, they probably didnt make too skypia and if they did they wouldnt have made it back down without the merry fixing herself and so they would have been stranded there longer and that would ruin the continuation of the events to follow.
Sanji going to Mr. 3’s hut on little garden is what keeps crocodile from ever learning who he exactly is allowing for Mr. Prince and chopper to save the straw hats and smoker. All though being generous I think it could still work out and straw hats dying at Enies Lobby makes the most sense.
I do think you are forgetting somethings like how Usopp uses the different "dials" to make Merry float and all that. Also Skypiea in general... I think the Going Merry simply wouldn't have made it without Usopp around.
Thumbs up for using Ape Escape music in the background of this video. Somehow surprisingly fitting combination with the One Piece voyage vibes. Maybe it's the nostalgia for when I played Ape Escape and first discovered One Piece at the same time while growing up lol.
usopp doesnt need to be a top fighter in the crew to be important. he fills the gaps in between each member, if they needed a weaponsmith, shipwright, artist, sniper, thats who he was. and im more interested in his character development anyway, since usopp is the closest thing to a normal human on the strawhat crew. if we were part of the strawhats, as much as wed like to be zoro or sanji, we would all be usopp, which makes the times he succeeds against all odds some of the most hype moments in the series in my opinion.
It wouldve ended at the end of Skypiea Usopp put the dials at the bottom of the mary when it fell back to the sea. This single feat stopped the ship from imploding on impact
I Understand the vid concept but technically speaking u could ask this abt any random charecters that didint join to ad they found a way i think oda wouldve made things work out regardless but still awsome video!
Not counting the Going Merry being repaired, as well as possibly being given to the Strawhats, I'd admit that it would probably end in Little Garden. They could defeat Arlong, but they might not trust Nami since it was Usopp that Nami pretended to kill, and he vouched for her as well as Nojiko. But let's call it the same. Little Garden does have some possibilities. But you need to remember that Usopp managed to free them with a special rope with fire and oil to free the others. I'd argue that without Usopp, the strawhats would have a harder time freeing them. Possibly, resulting in a possible timeline, both Vivi and Zoro would be dead. This would leave Luffy, Nami, Sanji and Karue. That would change everything. We see how Luffy handles loss. So yeah... there's that. Not only that but without Vivi, there would be no point outside of revenge against Crocodile to go to Alabasta. Luffy would arrive to the snow island and things would still play out. But if Chopper does join, then it would be harder in Alabasta. Peil probably wouldn't know about Vivi and help Luffy. And you would have the others fight Brogue Works without Zoro vs. Mr. 1. The remaining Straw Hats would probably be caught up in the fight and miss the giant bomb and Luffy would either be late or defeat Crocodile but be burried alive in the aftermath, being one of the few survivors from the bomb. Essentially we would have Luffy in a lost Alabasta, with nowhere to really go afterwards.
Usopp also defeated Chew of the Arlong pirates. Without Usopp they would have to deal with constant snipes while fighting the pirates. Next incident would be when Luffy broke off the mast of the going merry to fight Laboon. Usopp was the one who fixed it and only he has the craftsmanship skills to fix the ship. Yes, they're not on Frankys level but Usopp is the only one capable of fixing the ship before franky
an interesting point I thought of is that without usopp selling his rubber bands, they might not have ever gotten any dials, which leads them to plummeting into a Navy base, breaking their ship, and dying/getting caught
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Even if they get through all that and more it will still end up sadly .... After all without usopp there would be no way to find out about the great " con D.oriano " 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
My man, if the crew dont follow nami right after she stole the merry, them the plot of her being robbed by the corrupted marine would go on and the entire village would die fighting arlong in a last stand, god knows what nami would do after that.
There’s a video on a Zoro and Sanji fire, creator, named (melon tee). I honestly don’t think they could have any other relationship I’m loving this video
As I was looking as sogeking and ussop both have a long nose and both use slingshots I can conclude that ussop is sogeking
Straw hats don't need Usopp. They will easily defeat Doflamingo and his crew without Usopp
You forgetting the reason the Merry lasted as long as it did was because of the many patches and fixer ups Ussop did on it prior the events of Water 7/Enies Lobby. Without him there to provide the constant care as he did it would probably break much sooner especially since a lot of the repairs he did were the during Skypeia Arc.
Hard to say how much longer the merry would’ve lasted if someone else in the crew were to repair it
Remember that episodw when ussop and luffy were repairing the merry and luffy just destroyed a chunk of the ship with a swing of the hammer
I see your point, but someone else would've just nailed wood to the Merry. It's not like he has some expertise, that's why they need Franky in the first place. I don't think it's out of this world to assume Sanji or Zoro could use a hammer
@@ShutUpDenny sanji doesnt use his hands and zoro would lose the nails
@@ShutUpDenny ...nah, usopp is also an inventor, I mean, he invented the clima tact for nami and a bunch of other gadgets for himself, he was easily the best guy to take care of the ship before franky. Sanji never uses his hand other that to cook and zoro might end up destroying the ship while helping like luffy did.
Aren't we forgetting that after Alabasta, the strawhats where surrounded, and the only reason they could escape this surroundment was because Usopp destroyed 2 navy ships with 1 cannonball?
Also, Sogekings sniping of spandam was actually pretty significant, as it prevented Spandam from just dragging Robin towards a navy ship, and going trough the gates of judgement.
he also delivered the keys to franky on the bridge.
also, if he wasnt in the thriller bark and dressrosa, the straw hats would have been dead
Nah they will survive without usopp coz Luffy and his crew has plot armor
@@Omega77232 his plot armor makes ussop joined the crew and saved the whole crew multiple times
that s sogeking tho,not usopp
- whole crew defeated by Perona at Thriller Bark
- Luffy and Law turned into toys by Sugar
- Nico Robin turned over to the World Government and possibly thrown into Impel Down or even executed
And that is just when he was a literal life-saver.
Then there is all the other stuff Usopp did, like providing Nami with the Clima Tact, maintenance work on the Going Merry, and so on and so forth. He was also an MVP on Little Garden if I remember correctly, and recently he helped in a lot of small but important ways during the Onigashima raid.
Yeah. They can't get pass Perona, no matter what.
Yeah, the clima-tact was a key power-up for Nami, which helped with Big Mom (assuming they even get there without usoop)
it depends for sugar because sugar just wanted to get them because she wanted revenge for what USOPP did to her
Usopp saved the lives of Kin'emon and Okiku from being engulfed by the flames in Onigashima. Even though they didn't want to be saved due to their samurai code and feeling that their purpose was fulfilled, Usopp goes against that notion and makes them see that their lives still hold value.
@@vyperkiller594 Uhh no? they were gonna die regardless, Doflamingo was going to take them out any way he could
They straight up die in Dressrosa with amnesia, if it wasn’t for usopp’s clutching up with that snipe. Usopp is actually very valuable. Not to mention the ship probably would’ve sink a long time ago if it wasnt for Usopps constant repairs.
I'd say usopp snipe in dress rosa is top 3 most clutch moment in the whole show. He literally saved luffy and law from being erased from memory and existence .
@@pleasenotmyname agreed. Next to Sanji opening up the gate of justice in Enies Lobby
also they aint making it out of thriller bark without ussop.
not really. They end up dying in thriller bark. Perona negative hollow
well that could be the case with sugars power, however something I've thought about is how her power could be similer to Law's power (to cut people in half) in a sense that it doesn't work if their haki is too strong, it is never confirmed but i think sugars could act in the same way, too much haki? can't defeat them. which is why i don't think it would have worked on Luffy. but this is just speculation and sugar could actually just be broken.
If we are going with the assumption that Nami never gets caught by Mr 3 because Sanji stays with her, then they never end up going to Drum Island in the first place. The only reason they went was because she got sick, and the only reason she got sick was because she was shirtless on Little Garden for a time because Usopp burning up the wax statue burned her shirt off, and she got bit by a bug. I guess it is feasible that the bug could still bite her with her shirt on, they can crawl under clothes after all, but Dr. Kureha's words to her, which were something along the lines of "were you running around shirtless on a tropical island or something?" to me implies that had she had her shirt on she wouldn't have gotten bit. So there is a very real possibility that without Usopp with them, they also don't get Chopper.
Wow that’s kinda crazy like once you follow the cause and effect on certain parts of one piece you can see how much really would change
Her legs or her neck are the most likely places she could still have easily gotten bit. Her neck was fully exposed and she was wearing a miniskirt. that bug was going to be able to bite her regardless if she was wearing a shirt or not.
Don't forget that Zoro was going to cut off his legs to escape the candle stand so without Ussop it is possible that he would end up doing it
Wouldn't they have to go to Drum Island regardless, since the only way to survive the Grand Line is by following the Log Pose which always takes them to the next island
@@shinobix4925 the log pose in little garden takes one year to point to the next island. However they were able to get the eternal pose to Alabasta there, but when Nami becames sick, they stop in the next island that happens to be Drum, not because of the pose. So without Nami being sick, they would go directly to Alabasta as quick as possible in order to help Vivi.
Obligatory they could have recruited Sogeking instead.
Sogeking is usopp
i dont think he would have been there since he was usopp's friend but i think it definitely would have been cool
@@felixdeygriffin5294 nooooo really? do you know what a joke is
@@felixdeygriffin5294 r/wooosh
@@felixdeygriffin5294 no
I love how interconnected One Piece is! The fact that you can take the "weakest" member of the crew out of the story and change sooooo much shows just how much thought Oda puts into making his characters feel important.
I mean, strength is irrelevant in this case. It’s the interactions that matter for the most part unless the story is devoid of character interactions and development. Dragon Ball wouldn’t be the same without Bulma, Yamcha, or even Launch. It’s pretty basic in creating a story and while Oda is good at telling a story, making a character important to the story isn’t impressive. What he does well that is impressive is making them relevant throughout the entire story (well, excluding Chopper) and makes the readers care about them.
I mean yeah but using this logic you could say sakuras Important In part 1
Its common thing for a story lol, I am not saying one piece is not good story, it is actually really good but all the stories work this way, if you take out an important character in a story whole story will change.
@@thelostwanderergames4287 Sakura is the exception to the rule
@@SirDubbs no she is not, she is helpful in some situations like usopp, like she was whole motivation for naruto to beat up gaara, she was in defense in land of waves which made naruto and sasuke go against zabuza, she took care of naruto and sasuke after they went down after orochimaru fight.
It really does fuck me up that Perona genuinely would've solo'd the straw hats without him 💀
Without Usopp Robin might have given Luffy the pep talk. But Merry never comes to save them without Usopp.
Robin doesn’t have that “best friend “ connection.. ussop is true Best friend of luffy
@@vulturebeast I agree but I also think that Robin would not have just stood there and watched Luffy lose without saying anything. Even if they aren't best friends, hearing Robin yell "Beat him so we can all go back together," would have had a similar motivating effect as when Usopp did it.
@@vulturebeast hes nami besti also cus look at the 2 year skip she went nuts hugging him that way vs all the other crew
also barthalmu the barior guy cried seeing ussop for the first time othere people like robin he didnt cry.epp 679 around 17-18 mark. Also robin face when she held ussop a few epp back after he saved her from suggar. Robin dosent react to other people like she did with ussop
if you all cant gus it Joy boy is rencanated as Ussop sure luffy has the laught and all but Ussop is the one who always free the slaves
I think this goes to show form the video and comments that Usopp is a strong support for the crew. Even though he’s not the best in battle due to his cowardice, his intelligence, handiwork, and spirit is what keeps the crew afloat, especially during pre-time skip. It no longer seems that way anymore post time skip, but without Usopp, or even other members of the crew, everything would’ve fallen apart sooner or later. Usopp definitely has the role of the sniper because he’s considerably the jack of all trades or something of that latter
Go D. Usopp
If bravery isn't the lack of fear but moving forward despite your fears, I would go as far as to say that Usopp is the bravest of them all.
Luffy and Law will definitely turn into doll if Usopp wasn't around sniping/giving PTSD to Sugar
@@GamerConnoisseurReiThey wouldn't have been able to turn everyone back from toys in the first place, nor even able to rally the fairies as effectively as Usopp did.
Even if they got out of water 7 in one piece, perona would have been the end of the journey
In long ring long land, Luffys afro catches a piece of mirror, allowing him to redirect Foxys slow slow beam and making the fight an absolute wash. Without the fro, there's no telling if luffy would win, seeing as he was too slow to dodge the slow slow beam. I think that is a solid place to have the crew fail
How ironic, overcome the likes of Arlong and Croco but fall off to Foxy of all people
Filler
@@xyannail4678 not filler lol
@@Samuel-qc7kg tbh the slow slow beam's lightspeed attack is devastating to a pre-timeskip luffy, the only thing close to that attack speed he faced prior was enel and... well that's a wash
@@xyannail4678 Bro foxy is 100% canon, check the manga if you don't believe me
There are few things to keep in mind.
1. The crew might be caught by the marines in the end of Alabasta, given how Usopp destroyed two of the ships making it easier to escape.
2. The afro was important to the Foxy fight, and the only other person who seemed to even care about it was Sanji, so high hopes that he'd bring it to them.
3. Merry would realistically break apart before Water 7. Usopp wasn't the best shipwright yeah, but he still kept repairing the ship and delaying her breaking down for water 7. Realistically, The ship would probably break down an arc or 2 earlier. Either Jaya, their fall off the sky island or Long ring long island
dont forget but usopp help take down the mole grandma and bat guy so without him chopper probably would have died or went monster point to save himself which would have been worse for everyone cause he couldnt control it
Now hold on. The afro was essential to beating foxy! So foxy leaves the strawhats in shambles and the story basically ends there 😂
Truuuuuuu
@Shut Up Denny or wait. Maybe they just lose chopper 👀 but i dont think anyones heart can bare that timeline
@@ryvall_blu i prefer that timeline
That was filler though anyways
@@ironshadowywasn’t it in the manga? if it’s in the manga it isn’t filler, though it did feel like it
Another thing to note is that without Usopp's strong ties to Dorry and Brogy after Little Garden, the straw hats likely wouldn't have been able to get help from Oimo and Kashii at Enies Lobby either.
What about usopp literally saving Nami, zoro, princess Vivi, and Brogy
@@conesnail1 Correct, that too, but I wasn't talking about those
They said that
If we try to cast off one of the member, they won't go too long. PERIOD
They never would have left Little Garden because Usopp meant so much to them that they helped the Straw Hats to leave.
I would argue that the gang most likely get stuck on Skypeia just due to Ussop not being there to do any repairs. It's possible that the spirit of the merry still exist, but I'm pretty sure that the attempts at repairing were still needed for the Merry to get the rest back together after all the damage she takes going up to skypeia and getting thrown on the altar
I'm sure the people living in skypeia could fix it
@@LaidormaGood point, never thought of that. So Ussop is basically kinda useless
@@abdurrahmandureng Hence the Luffy vs Usopp fight.
They wouldnt even get to grandline because the girl from ussops village that gave them the merry (forgot her name) would have likely died
@@abdurrahmandureng bro didn't watch the video 💀
Don't forget that one of the main reasons Robin didn't just give up was because Sogeking made that motivational speech to Robin on the train to believe in Luffy. Also they wouldn't even get there that fast without convincing the giants to defect.
Merry would of course also not show up to save them, as it was Usopp crying over it that made Franky drop it so Iceburg could find it on the beach.
im pretty sure it was kaku that dropped the merry, not franky
At the end of One Piece, the narrator gives his final briefing of how the crew lived out the rest of their days before revealing himself to be Ussop, the great storyteller.
That’d be the worst ending tbh lmao i just never liked usopp as a character tbh
@@JoyUwU that’d be the best ending ever tbh lmao I just always liked Ussop as a character.
@@JoyUwU good for you
@@JoyUwU I personally like Usopp because he is by far the most "human" like character in this world full of Devil Fruit users and Haki Brawlers.
But we know that Smoker is the narrator
If you did Nami they would be lost forever the second they got into the grand line if they even made it to the grand line.
Nami and Zoro are absolutely vital from the get go
without nami zoro would find out the real way to get to laughtale was to use the compass through the grandline's whacky magnetic field. after all, such a scraggily path is a mere straight line to him
@@ShutUpDennyand chopper
@@ShutUpDenny yes Zoro is as vital as sanji but Robin would be the most vital to find the one piece
@@ShutUpDenny imo sanji and chopper are more vital than zoro, although having zoro is incredibly important for the needed strength
Yea Perona immediately came to my mind when I read the title. The monster trio being completely useless against her powers but Usopp being immune to it was one of the funniest scenes in the entire series. I was laughing my ass off when I saw it the first time :D
WOW! I am a BIG, nay, HUGE fan of Usopp and I never noticed that Usopp facilitated Sanji's recruitment.
Literally the most clutch character in the crew. I’m so happy that all of the crew are worth something and it’s not just Luffy being the only useful one.
Usopp saved the strawhats from sinking post alabasta. It was when the marine ships were shooting the Merry with spears. If Usopps godly aim wouldn't be there then they would've sunk
A fun idea I just pondered, is that shortly after the crew leaves syrup Island, usap realizes he does want to join them. Somehow someway he is able to track them, and still comes in as soegaKing on the train at CP9. Everybody who met him at Sierra Island would probably not remember him by his basic features, but when the mask comes off they would all recognize him, and ask him to join the crew again. This time he'd say yes.
Although Usopp would not be able to get to the grand line are you suggesting that the identity of sodgeking is a character the crew already knows?
AS Sogeking? Why not call Sogeking and they both join the crew?
@@arthurdias5385 Hold up, while Sodgeking would be a nice addition to the strawhats, they already have a sniper
I love this idea! If one would do this with Nami all these funny short scenes with some bad, wacky weather would become much more dangerous for the Crew than any antagonist. 😂
It doesnt have to be the weather. Without Nami, Sanji wouldnt join. They all die of hunger.
Without Nami everyone's dead within seconds of entering the Grand Line
@@ShutUpDenny without Nami they don’t get to the grand line, they just hit a small whirlpool and die immediately
Just make Zoro the Navigator, they'll make it to laugh tale in 3 days
@@the_man_emperor_of_mankind nah bro if zoros the navigator theyre gonna make it to chuckle story
I'm glad you made this video, dude. Removing a single character in this hypothetical scenario really makes you take notice of how the story beats and structure of One Piece is set up.
Usopp helps in foreshadowing, reminding, and helps cohesively involve the Straw Hats more with, the major plot-important Giants; bolster's the emotional goodbye with the ship thanks to his personal involvement with Kaya, and really just makes more big setpieces/emotional moments happen with his everyman persona and his big connection with Luffy.
Usopp really is the center of a lot of things with One Piece, at least emotionally.
Great video! To be fair to Usopp though I don't think they would be able to escape sky island without his connection to merry and the klabauterman. Because Chopper rips the mast off of merry to stop the fire, without klabauterman or Usopp's ability to do a mediocre patch the straw hats would be stranded without the merry being able to move to another island.
the fact the strawhats name would have probbaly never been heard without usopp is crazy
Sorry Long comment, lol! XD... Overall, you are being too generous by giving the crew too many chances to progress. Sadly I think they would not get off Little Garden. Usopp's bag of tricks was needed to destroy the wax structure & he also got Luffy out of control of the girl with the paint control ability (Miss Goldenweek). Even if Sanji and Nami are there. There would now be 6 Villains [Mr 3, Mr 5, Miss Goldenweek, Miss Valentine & the 2 unluckies] to fight! Since Sanji did not take the unluckies out at Mr 3 camp. Sanji will not fight any ladies, so Nami will 1 v 2. With her current level, she will be easily defeated by the 2. Also, since Sanji rushes to battle, I think Mr 3 will subdue him with wax [Note Luffy is out of commission due to Miss Goldenweek]. Their journey ends here. Usopp, due to his weakness, is the one who always analyzes fights before going in. Allowing him to think about creative ways to beat his opponents. Usopp destroying the wax structure came out of his nature to assess the situation, and no one could have thought of that but him. Even if someone thought about it. They would need Usopp's bag of tricks that had the tools needed to take down the structure. So it's GG for our straw hats here :(
Unless they get Mr. 5 to attack and dodge it, allowing the breath bullet to take it out.
I enjoyed this thought experiment with the "generous pivot," but I would like to mention that, as others have pointed out, Sogeking (Usopp's friend) both stalled Spandam enough for Franky to arrive there, and was the one who "air mailed" the keys unto the bridge. Those are quite crucial elements of Usopp's/Sogeking's presence.
However, using the "generous pivot" idea, maybe Franky has managed to reach Robin & Spandam just in time to psychologically stun Spandam enough for Franky to land some hits and stalling until the rest of the crew arrives with the keys. That still leaves the part where Usopp motivates Luffy to stand up one more time. Borrowing your "generous pivot" again, maybe, MAYBE some Dues Ex Machina occurs where the Strawhats manage to put a seastone cuff unto Lucci, and thus not defeating him but allowing themselves to flee. It was done by Oda in Whole Cake Island.
But even with that seemingly magical solution to the Enies Lobby arc, the crew's journey is pretty much over at this point. People here have pointed out that the Going Merry had been repaired by Usopp throughout the journey thus far -- amatuerishly, but somewhat repaired nonetheless. Again, with another "generous pivot," maybe the Going Merry was looked over by the now-peaceful Alabasta kingdom? And maybe the crew had landed on some random island along the way where they befriended the local populace and in order the Going Merry received some light repairs to keep it going until Water 7? I find it quite unlikely that the ship would have been manifesting its own klabautermann on either Skypiea or Water 7/Enies Lobby. How would the crew escape from the area without the Going Merry? I don't know, and it feels a bit too generous, even for a "generous pivot" to have them somehow taking over a battleship or managing to flee on a raft boat.
And that's without addressing the issue of facing Perona on Thiller Bark.
A nice video. It would be interesting to hear your thoughts regarding the other members not joining the crew. How the Strawhats' story will look like then?
I've given this topic a lot of thought myself over the years as an Usopp fan and people stating he isn't needed.
I think they honestly fall at Little Garden without Usopp myself. I felt you were a little too generous with this arc.
Wall of text but hear me out:
Sanji won't bond with the giants like Usopp does because he's going to be too busy trying to get Nami to safety.
Luffy and Usopp's relationships with the giants ends up being key to escaping the island at the end of the arc, but that'll be largely irrelevant in this version as Broggy's fate is sealed without Usopp's kit.
Luffy and Sanji can't break the wax at this point(without using the wax to do so as shown in the Luffy vs. Mr. 3 fight), Zoro can't cut through it as we saw in canon and even though Nami will be able to work out how to save them, she doesn't have anything to hand that she can use to melt it since they will have given all the alcohol on the ship to Broggy to prevent themselves from being eaten by him earlier.
Zoro, Vivi and Broggy die here as nothing can save them from the wax in this scenario.
With Vivi dead they lose their main drive to go to Alabasta. Let's say they try to do get the Eternal Pose and decide to avenge her and save her people...but Broggy is dead as they couldn't melt his wax. Dorry cannot defeat the Island Eater alone after his injuries and the crew are swallowed. The adventure ends.
If they don't get the Eternal Pose, Nami will want some time to think about their next move, especially if the Island Eater is revealed to her. She dies within a week due to the Kestia bite she recieves on the island. Luffy and Sanji can try to leave the island but the Grand Line weather will sink them quickly. The adventure ends.
TL;DR: No one has anything that can save Zoro, Vivi and Broggy from becoming wax statues and that screws everyone over in the end.
Of course that's just one scenario, but Little Garden really does feel like the very first place they'd truly fall without Usopp. It seems really minor and like anyone could carry this stuff...but they don't. Usopp's the only one who carries tools and useful items at all times.
Little Garden wouldn't be an issue. Even if Zoro, Vivi, and Nami still got caught because Sanji went to find food, pretty sure a chain smoking chef could create a fire to melt them free. Luffy also broke the pillar with the wax mallet on his legs, so one more better aimed wax punch/kick could've broken them out.
The giants would be irrelevant. When it can time to leave, Sanji and Luffy took out Mohmoo in seconds. Add Zoro and the World Eater is gone just as quick. They will just kill it, possibly eat it, and not "go straight no matter what" on advice from Dorry and Broggy.
They still end up on Drum Island as they found it by plot luck in the first place. Their log pose was never set from LG and the eternal was to Alabasta. Would still chance upon Wapol and learn of Drum.
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Even when Luffy had Mr. 3's flame there was nothing to set fire to to create a big enough blaze. Usopp even points out the flame is too tiny to do anything on it's own. The alcohol rope and Karoo having wrapped it around is the only reason this plan worked. Sanji can have the lighter on him but he needs something to set on fire. That wax isn't going to melt in time otherwise.
That wax mallet plan would rely on Mr. 3 to constantly make the same error over and over again since every time Luffy hit the wax with wax both pieces shattered.
The sheer size of the wax candleabra is going to take a long time to smash...and Mr. 3's frankly more intelligent than to make the same mistake enough times to make that viable. Smashing Vivi or Nami with the hammer probably wouldn't end well either honestly.
According to the official magazine Mohmoo is 36 meters tall.
The Island Eater is 715m tall.
Laboon was 400m tall. Laboon ate the crew and their ship and there was nothing they could do against him and this creature is almost twice Laboon's size.
Luffy, Zoro and Sanji can do everything they want to try and fight this thing, they're still getting eaten. They haven't been able to train enough to beat something like that at this point as the Laboon incident is only a few days prior to Little Garden. The giants, who are considerably more powerful than the Monster Trio at this point are required to kill it.
Nami knows how important God Ussap is look at the hug she gave him when they meet back after 2 years. Nobody got that treatment cep God Ussap
Btw God Ussap every wamen dream cus his noise is also a black that can go into them
They wouldnt even get to the grandline because the girl who gave them the merry would have likely died
Usopp is one of the most underrated characters, objectively there are quite a few situations in the anime where the Straw Hats would have lost, or died without his help. Yeah that is the case for other members too but he has earned his place on the crew.
interesting idea for a video! though to be fair to usopp, without him loving the merry as much as he did, the merry probably wouldnt have developed her klabautermann, and even if she had, no one would have been going to pee in the night on skypiea to see it! which makes merry much less of an actual character and more of just a ship that they sadly would have to replace ): sad to think about tbh
Completely agree, I wonder who integral Usopp was to the klabautermann. I'd say very important
@@ShutUpDenny hey at first guy said robin dies if smoker didn't come or whatever but then you said she still joined the crew how?
You see, without Sogeking (Usopp's friend) handcuffing himself to Zoro, that means that Zoro would never have defeated King in Wano.
Sogeking was *clearly* giving Zoro some essential training so that he could overcome bigger challenges in the future, and it paid off. This is the reason that Zoro had become as strong as he has, and the reason why Zoro only lost *one* eye after the time skip instead of both eyes.
Damn. What an interesting idea. Great video. It really highlights how interconnected everything is in this world/story. Lynchpins everywhere! Also, does Usopp speak things into existence with his lies or are those just coincidences? Like would the Island Eater even appear if Usopp never talked about it? 🤔 My only complaint is that the entirety of this video was way too easy to guess based on those AI generated pics.
I knew I shouldn't have posted those images...
@@ShutUpDenny hey spoilers aside it was still a great video 👍
Let's say ussop was useless for 300 ep straight 🤣🤣😂😂 and still useless except some arcs like alabasta
It’s funny how the weakest members are the the ones most important ones when it comes to outside of combat. Without our long nosed friend, they would’ve failed at sky island or water seven. If they somehow didn’t fail there then at dressrosa they would just loose when sugar is about to feed luffy and law the fruit
That is what makes the crew so great. Each one of them is extremely valuable. Nami and Chopper have the most important positions of doctor and navigator. While Usopp is great in a lot of different things plus sharpshooting is highly needed in sea battles. Plus his various inventions are very helpful. Honestly to me the least useful combined combat and other factors are Brooke. Aside from him, everyone else is more or less the same amount of usefulness.
This I guess is a perfect essay on why Usopp was such a polarizing character at first but eventually became a fan favorite and meme generator.
He started as nothing more than a joke character, a walking gag that SOMETIMES had an emotional moment. Even in the arcs where he was supposed to be the focus, Syrup Village and Little Garden, he was overshadowed and has minor impact. Then Water 7 happened and almost everyone's perception of him changed. We saw him have a fully fleshed out, 3 dimensional character for the first time. We saw him badly beaten and have it not played up for laughs, saw his insecurities and home sickness boil over, saw his ingenuity shine when pushed too far, saw how far he's willing to go for his friends even when not a part of the crew anymore, met his awesome friend Soge King, saw him learn more about what it means to be a Warrior of the Sea from Elbathe giants, saw him finally come into his own and realizing that even though he can't fight like the monster trio he still has a lot value to the crew, saved Robin and had a moment of genuine remorse. And the fans rejoiced that Usopp was more than just a joke now.
That is awesome to hear. Because by the end of this, you had to make a billion pivots to keep the Straw hats on track. Usopp might have not defeated some bad guy no one else could defeat, but he did provide a support to the crew that added up little by little to eventually saving everyone and permanently changing the dynamic of the show.
The little acts of love for the Merry and the many laughs he had with Luffy both showing their true power at the climatic moment of Ennies Lobby is poetic.
Not sure Merry makes it to Sky Island without Usopp. But also without Usopp it would be easier for them to get another ship before then. But would a different ship have survived the knock-up stream? Probably easier for the exercise to not consider this angle.
Even if they still got one built by Iceberg at Water 7, they would be caught by Garp as they would not have any way to escape him.
In the anime, Usopp had joined the crew before they reached the Island of Strange Animals. Perhaps in this alternate timeline where the crew already has Merry but not Usopp, Gaimon decides to join them.
I haven't noticed anyone else say this but in nami's battle with CP9 she wouldn't have been able to tinker with the dials because the main reason that the strawhats have so many dials is from usopp trading rubberbands with the skypians for the dials
ussop also has saved the whole crew 2 times in the thriller bark with his super negative thoughts to fight against perona's hollows and dressrosa when he "sniped" sugar to save luffy and law
“No reason to head to the restaurant”
Excuse me, but Luffy is a pretty good reason to go to a restaurant.
I think the fact that there is so many what-ifs and branching paths you could take with an Usopp-less crew goes to show how important he is on the crew, even if he isn't a powerhouse in terms of fighting.
no going merry
robin gets taken to imple down
they lose at thriller bark best case scenario.
with that said i wonder how brook would fare against perona.
Even if the straw hats somehow made it to thriller bark, they would most likely get beaten by Perona, but Usopp was immune to her ghosts
Really good video! Next we just need to see Usopps side with him going out to sea alone to become the great captain Usopp. After watching this I keep thinking of different scenarios like what if Vivi did go with the Strawhats after defeating Crocodile and saving Alabasta, or What if Johnny and Yosaku joined the crew, what if Sanji didnt join, what if Paulie became the Strawhats shipwright. Endless possiblities. keep up the good work!
You forgot to mention during the Fishman chapter is that the pinwheel guy died without usopp help
I LOVE thought experiments like this, I hope you do more for the other crewmates!
Missed an important part in Arlong Park: Usopp saves Gen's life by distracting Arlong very early in the arc. Maybe Arlong would keep Nojiko and the rest of the town alive as bargaining chips, but Gen was half of what kept the town from throwing their lives away by fighting Arlong. On the other hand, if Usopp wasn't there to stop them, there's no doubt the monster trio would attack Arlong as soon as they arrived; whether Nami changes sides and asks for Luffy's help could come down to whether Arlong stole her saved-up treasure yet. Worst case scenario, she makes them leave, and THEN Arlong takes her savings, leaving her broken with no one to rescue her and the Straw Hats literally lost at sea. Even if she does flip, it's a more desperate fight, with Nami having to take on Chuu, since Usopp isn't there to draw him away, and without the inspiration of Gen's pinwheel, Luffy won't get stuck and will attack Arlong right away. Wild how much changes by removing one character!
He forgot that when they were leaving Skypiea, Usopp saved them using his breath dials
i think the merry breaks down FAR before water 7. usopp was pretty much the crew's shipwright until franky joined, and i dont think any of the other straw hats are at all good at handicraft or fixing a ship in any way. usopp might not be a shipwright, but he absolutely still better at repairing anything than the rest combined.
Literally Usopp literally kept them going. I mean he pretty much served every role on that ship before an expert came along except captain and navigator. He patched up both the ship and the crew. That ship likely wouldn't have even made it past alibastar or even to their without him. Nami definitely would have been killed without the climitate and she definitely isn't a craftsman to have made great use of the dials.
Very generous on how they would have gotten by without him. Once Nami dies they are pretty much stuck without a new navigator even if their boat could still sail.
You did not consider the full implication of losing Afro Luffy. Without Usopp, Luffy LOSES to Foxy without question. The only reason he won is because he had a shard of glass lodged in his 'fro that reflected the slow-slow beam. And without Usopp's guidance, Luffy's ADHD ass isn't gonna consider the radical implication of The 'Fro before getting destracted by a gladiator helmet or something. So without Usopp, the Straw Hats lose an extra crewmate, possibly Luffy himself to the Foxy pirates.
I think they would have lost the fight at Arlong park without Usopp taking on that one guy by himself.
If usopp didn't repair the ship they will need to stop so many time to repair the ship or buy a new one so what i think is that most of the crew will not be in the crew because they will need to stop so many times to repaur the ship and that will change the direction they go because of the different islands they need to go to repair or buy a new ship and the biggest difference is the member they will add after sanji is a guy who can repair the ship
My man you are really underselling Ussop,he was one of the most important members.Patching up the Merry and acting as Helmsman until Franky was recruited,aswell as an important combatant early on.
its also entirely possible they die as early as arlong park because without usopp, chew is not removed from the main battle, which allows him to just dive in and kill luffy as soon as he falls in the water since no one is strong enough to stop him that isn't already fighting someone else. once luffy dies it's just a matter of picking off sanji and zoro and then that's game. arlong wins.
and don't act like the minute luffy's thrown in the water, he wouldn't just instantly dive in to attack him. that's perfect bait for zoro and sanji, and if they don't take it, luffy dies anyways. usopp leading chew away from the battlefield saved them because i honestly think that they only barely managed to win because they could keep every remaining enemy busy and away from luffy long enough to free him. hatchan with zoro, kuroobi with sanji, and arlong with his own ego.
I keep seeing this argument, and I can’t help but roll my eyes when I think back to haters who say Usopp was useless during that battle and “practically unneeded”. Okay, really? 🙁 When you take him out the equation suddenly things seem so exhausting.
Without Usopp, the crew realizes early on they need a sniper. Luckily Dr. Chopper is a brilliant surgeon and is able to perform open-heart surgery, accessing Sniper Island, and recruiting Sogeking during the Alabasta saga
To be completely fair he was the MVP for solid portion of thriller bark and dressrosa. In thriller bark he was the only one that personas df couldnt incapacitate and without him taking her out of the game the straw hats might not have gotten as far as they did. Similarly in dressrosa usop warranted the most attention for his ability to keep sugar and the hobi-hobi fruit in check.
In water 7 without usopp nobody would have got to Robin in time and they would have never seen her again he was shooting from the top of the tower that's why sanji told him to do only what he could do
That was sogeking stupid.
Huh?
You're mixing up characters.
That was sogeking, he could still have gotten involved, since he was clearly in water 7 already, for usopp to ask for his help
This. I can’t believe I just watched a One Piece video where someone said Sogeking’s sniping on top of the tower of justice wasn’t important.
After Skypeia they fell with the merry all the way back down to the ocean. With Ussops collection of dials he saved not only the merry but the entire crew from drowning in the middle of the ocean.
They barely make it up to the Ark Maxim as is, without Sanji's interference Enel wins. Doublefinger helping out is already incredibly generous, but Skypeia is an absolute death knell, all the characters are accounted for, and Upper Yard crashes down in pieces into the blue sea. As generous as you can possibly be the story ends here...
Although of course only if you try and make it line up, in a more realistic scenario they'd have a completely different cook, and probably loose at Arlong Park because Sanji is the one who freed Luffy... or they'd never get to Arlong Park, and they might even have a whole extra adventure instead of the Baratie, and if that adventure made enough money Nami might even be able to buy her village after stealing from the boys. I think if you don't have Usopp they either just die, or bum around East Blue for several months and make a much larger and more normal pirate crew... which of course means both project Utopia and Deathpeia both succeed, although even if Utopia works they wouldn't have Pluton without travelling to Wano so I can't see that going great for Crocodile, and Enel wouldn't have the survival game to change out his Vassals, he'd still have the same 4 dudes go to the moon with him; since we didn't see much of what went on on the moon that could have been a big deal... or they could have all suffocated because there's no air, who knows what One Piece moon physics are?
✨ Bold of you to assume Luffy would let him leave ✨
If usopp never joined its end of story. You avoided all the pit falls in order to wish it would work , but in reality the story would end or change completly whit completly new character.
-makes a video on speculations of how things could go without a vital crew member
-applies a rule that disallows you to explore very deeply
ok
strawhats would have all died if usop wasnt in aarlong park
💀 nah bro
@@Gear5Slushywithout usopp who would defeat that fishman with a long mouth (he was one of the main person in arlong crew)
8:13 that picture of Nami with the battle axe and robotic limbs...That looks like a reference to one of my favorite One Piece fanfictions: Of Pop greens and Tangerines.
do a what if zoro was the navigator
Everyone dies. The end
They somehow end up in Skypiea before Arlong Park lol.
Luffy would have more fun. Zoro somehow gets stuck on the moon before Enel. The one piece was up there
@@ShutUpDenny they find the one piece accidently
Everyone dies or they find One Piece. Nothing in between
I love "What If" threads like these, its always fun to see how things develop when you change just a little bit.
Tbh a lot of the time I just think "Well but Butterfly Effect" cause you can't really take away a main point of the story but keep it going the exact same way just different imo
Also, One Piece would've ended during DressRosa Arc
I don’t like how so much couldn’t be done without usopp, I mean it’s so cute and stuff, but I’m one of those people that can’t appreciate usopps value. Even tho he’s definitely one of the most helpful charachters.
More people need to see this video. Especially Usopp haters and lovers, the latter of which I fall into.
Usopp, Nami and Chopper are genuinely some of my favourite characters and I'm surprised that people hate Usopp like damn
@cowabungoid Uda is not allowing my man to grow, even after the time skip. The god Usopp moment is funny and iconic but it frustrated me a bit lol like for God's sake give my man one moment to shine, like Sogeking burning the world government flag.
@@co2_os yes. This. 🙄 C’mon. Usopp fans keep getting laughed at. Oda throw us a bone.
@@Subpar1O1 I was so saddened to see this (all the character hate). When Usopp became my favorite character right when he made his appearance I didn’t realize how much of an ugly place the internet was until now. Becoming a fan of Usopp is really a brave thing itself 😧
Just saw this video in recommended love the video usopp is my favorite straw hat always pushing through his fears and developing as a brave warrior of the sea !
They definitely wouldn’t get past water 7 or dressrosa
Or thriller bark
Usopp is lowkey underestimated because he provides comic relief, but he's a Strawhat thru and thru.
It's very clear the crew wouldn't be where it is without everyone's contribution. The show isn't just "Luffy and his helpers".
Usopp is incredibly resourceful, pirates should fight to have him in their crew. He's pretty obviously one of the world's best snipers, and even tho he doesn't use a conventional weapon that's actually BETTER, because his unconventional weapons are actually more effective. He has shown to be able to use observation haki to aim with incredible precision in case of emergencies.
He's a talented inventor, who studied Skypiea's technology and was able to apply it to a number of contraptions. He created Nami's weapon and perfected it.
He's able to operate heavy guns with extreme precision.
He's pretty cunning and can come up with very smart tactical plans on the fly. He beat a few opponents with OP hax powers that couldn't be easily dealt with via physical means by tricking them.
Albeit not as experienced as Franky, he can do emergence repairs to a ship or other machinery.
After timeskip, he has knowledge and use of various special plants with powerful effects.
Even tho he's not particularly strong, he has impressive physical resilience, as shown multiple times during his fights.
He acts cowardly due to lack of confidence but that actually turns into an advantage since it helps him survive dangerous situations, and he is still extremely corageous if the situation calls for it.
Ussop saved Robin from gates of Justice
I started this video when it came out but I stopped watching because I wasn't through Water 7, but then I completely forgot to rewatch it until now.
With out usopp NAMI wouldn't have her weapons and they couldn't go fishing and with out usopp they would have taken Robin and with out usopp Luffy would have lost to sugar
and nami wouldve died to the spike user girl in alabasta
They end at Ernie’s lobby but if you sugarcoat it they can get to thriller bark but by plot armor they can probably surpass it if their SUPER lucky they can get to dressers but by time it wraps💀💀
Nice video🎉
But i can easily argue and prove that They won't get this far just because Usopp repairing the Ship. Nami won't have clima takt either. Usopp saving Robin from Aokiji was badass. Arlong's commander who Usopp Defeated would help arlong in battle.
Usopp is more advance than you think do you remember when he heard marry before anyone else
@@felixdeygriffin5294 Yes. And Merry's Klabauterman fixed the ship in skypea. I don't without Usopp , merry won't have such connection to the crew. Merry thanked for fixing it up for many times.
I think even if everything played out as it did they would have been done sooner, the one keeping the merry going was ussop, they probably didnt make too skypia and if they did they wouldnt have made it back down without the merry fixing herself and so they would have been stranded there longer and that would ruin the continuation of the events to follow.
Ussop carries the team. I mean he literally fought a giant gold fish
Sanji going to Mr. 3’s hut on little garden is what keeps crocodile from ever learning who he exactly is allowing for Mr. Prince and chopper to save the straw hats and smoker. All though being generous I think it could still work out and straw hats dying at Enies Lobby makes the most sense.
Don't forget usopp saves zoro
When?
Episode when he's fighting that rust guy
I do think you are forgetting somethings like how Usopp uses the different "dials" to make Merry float and all that.
Also Skypiea in general... I think the Going Merry simply wouldn't have made it without Usopp around.
Thumbs up for using Ape Escape music in the background of this video. Somehow surprisingly fitting combination with the One Piece voyage vibes. Maybe it's the nostalgia for when I played Ape Escape and first discovered One Piece at the same time while growing up lol.
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usopp doesnt need to be a top fighter in the crew to be important. he fills the gaps in between each member, if they needed a weaponsmith, shipwright, artist, sniper, thats who he was. and im more interested in his character development anyway, since usopp is the closest thing to a normal human on the strawhat crew. if we were part of the strawhats, as much as wed like to be zoro or sanji, we would all be usopp, which makes the times he succeeds against all odds some of the most hype moments in the series in my opinion.
9:49 if you're a loyal one piece fan you would remember it's the "Usopp ahhhhhhhihh" I only started watching the show earlier this year man.
So long story short Usopp is basicaly generous pivot himself.😆
It wouldve ended at the end of Skypiea Usopp put the dials at the bottom of the mary when it fell back to the sea. This single feat stopped the ship from imploding on impact
I Understand the vid concept but technically speaking u could ask this abt any random charecters that didint join to ad they found a way i think oda wouldve made things work out regardless
but still awsome video!
I think you did a great job ironing these ideas and possible outcomes. You can really tell you’re a true one piece fan.
Not counting the Going Merry being repaired, as well as possibly being given to the Strawhats, I'd admit that it would probably end in Little Garden.
They could defeat Arlong, but they might not trust Nami since it was Usopp that Nami pretended to kill, and he vouched for her as well as Nojiko. But let's call it the same.
Little Garden does have some possibilities. But you need to remember that Usopp managed to free them with a special rope with fire and oil to free the others.
I'd argue that without Usopp, the strawhats would have a harder time freeing them. Possibly, resulting in a possible timeline, both Vivi and Zoro would be dead.
This would leave Luffy, Nami, Sanji and Karue. That would change everything. We see how Luffy handles loss. So yeah... there's that.
Not only that but without Vivi, there would be no point outside of revenge against Crocodile to go to Alabasta. Luffy would arrive to the snow island and things would still play out. But if Chopper does join, then it would be harder in Alabasta. Peil probably wouldn't know about Vivi and help Luffy. And you would have the others fight Brogue Works without Zoro vs. Mr. 1. The remaining Straw Hats would probably be caught up in the fight and miss the giant bomb and Luffy would either be late or defeat Crocodile but be burried alive in the aftermath, being one of the few survivors from the bomb.
Essentially we would have Luffy in a lost Alabasta, with nowhere to really go afterwards.
Simply put, Usopp is more valuable to the crew than he gets credit for. Wouldn't be the same without him.
Usopp also defeated Chew of the Arlong pirates. Without Usopp they would have to deal with constant snipes while fighting the pirates.
Next incident would be when Luffy broke off the mast of the going merry to fight Laboon. Usopp was the one who fixed it and only he has the craftsmanship skills to fix the ship. Yes, they're not on Frankys level but Usopp is the only one capable of fixing the ship before franky
The ape escape music in the bg can't escape me, and it's a superb choice for chilling.
This video is the perfect proof to deny the “Usopp is Useless” allegations
an interesting point I thought of is that without usopp selling his rubber bands, they might not have ever gotten any dials, which leads them to plummeting into a Navy base, breaking their ship, and dying/getting caught