Idk why, being from USA, but I’m fascinated by the Central Asian region. Maybe it’s because of how little it’s talked about, or that it’s truly an interior world since it’s the most landlocked region on earth. It feels so deep geographically, a sprawling frontier like Northern Canada or Siberia, and just as mysterious. So thank you for this video!
thank you for your interest in us for us it also seems that we are the most remote place as if I am Kyrgyz and live in Kyrgyzstan, my language is Kyrgyz, my second language is Turkish (it was easy for me to learn since we come from the same family, Turkic peoples) if you want to visit Central Asia one day, then I suggest Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan - these places are more advanced, as well Kyrgyzstan, there is a place Isyk-Kul, the pearl of Kyrgyzstan, a warm lake means in translation, I met tourists there! who spoke English🎉
Cy. I've watched your whole catalog now, and I just gotta say WOW man. Your passion for history comes thru EVERY video. I can feel it. You've come a long way from the first few videos you made, but that passion is still there as strong as ever. Thank you so much for sharing your passion with all of us.
I hope you'd also include the pamarian history in the next video. Thanks for covering central Asian history , it's quite rare to find much about it on the internet .
Hi, thanks for stopping by! I will actually be doing more on ancient Central Asia next month. In July I'll be doing more ancient Persian history and that will segue into vids on Bactria, Sogdiana and Margiana (that's the goal at least). More definitely to come soon!
@@HistorywithCy thanks . Im actually a wakhi speaker and I'm researching on my language recently but I couldn't find much. The fact that surprised me the most while my research was that our language is atleast known to be 4000 years old which is quite astonishing considering our tiny population and our language is a endangered language. Now I'm very curious about overall central Asian culture and history . I think central Asia has a very colorful and vibrant culture which is usually overlooked by the mainstream media and social media.
@@evia9354 oh wow that is awesome! I've read a little about the Wakhi people because I've been studying the history and geography of Tajikistan and areas like the Gorno-Badakhshan region...it's a very beautiful area. That's so interesting...just curious, are you from Tajikistan?
@@HistorywithCy no I'm from wakhi region of gojal in Pakistan. Since we are not that connected with the badakshan and other wakhi regions in other countries. We don't know much about the history .
I really liked this video, glad you're branching out into some other little-known bits of history. Would love to see some more about early steppe empires.
Thank you for the video! I'm from Kazakhstan and wanted to see what videos are up there about Central Asia. This was very nicely done and gives great overview of the region. I liked the part where you talked about the territories.. it's true that boundaries are unclear and even modern day Russia has some people that are closer to our nations culturally and lingiustucally than Russians (west and north-west of Kazakhstan). Hopefully you uploaded more videos about our cultures I'm looking forward to check them out. Also, I think you could add a few interesting details about our ancestors: 1) the great wall of China was built in order to protect the Chinese at the time from Central Asian tribes; 2) Mongolian Empire's impact, especially the way the whole bloodline was changed in the subsequent years after the invasion; 3) Hunns and Attila; 3) Tengrism - religion at the time and it's impact. P.s. you could pronounce it as (K)Haresm :)
Very well done. I'm Uzbek (from Fergana Valley, so more Persian than Turk) You touched interesting subject almost unknown to western public. I should recommend investigate Greek influence and connection between two early civilisation. If you will make a video about Greeko baktrian kingdom and it's influence on early Buddhism it should be interesting for your audience, I believe. Thank you glad western people start looking what was outside of western civilization
Thank you so much for your interesting short guide to our history. I am tajik from Tajikistan, as I am getting older, I am becoming more interested in history, especially my own people and language. Although I do believe, we are all one. But still it’s very good to know where we came from and how we have changed during the millenniums. Being surrounded by mostly Turkic people, it’s not really easy for us to really prove anything. Although, there are many archaeological and historical proves that we lived in this region since ancient time, there is always useless debate going on. Especially that Turkic(or maybe they just speak turkic but genetically they might be still Iranic people) now are majority and they want to unite(which absolutely is ok), but politically and panturkisticaly they want to destroy and erase the tajik history. In their school history books they refer themselves as the ancient people and that tajiks came with arabs or sometime they even write that we are gypsy. All I want to say, that there are not many nations in the world who survived so many genocides and invasions, like Iranic people of East(tajik) and west(persian). Well..here we go that is the difference of Iranic culture compared to others, we welcomed and accepted refugees for thousands of years, and never try to destroy their culture. The jews, the turks the gypsies they all had their own identity and their own culture. We never force anyone to become Persian. Even the Cyrus the Great, when he invade new lands, he allowed people to speak their own language to worship their own gods. In fact the languages of The Achamenid Empire were the ones mostly spoken, not just his own people languages. Imagine the level of tolerance on that period. But now that we live in 21 centuries, people still live on survival mode. They try to rewrite history, invade, destroy and colonize. That’s insane!
that makes me thing of balkan history debates, with the "pro-migration" historians making some funky theories to explain why they can claim the lands, but you see that it's just politics, it's called proto-chronism and it's very common in post-communist states, because of the propaganda during the communist regimes (communism was about uniting humanity, not enforcing nationalism, but that's what happened) So yeah, there are 2 sides, the countries of "before the migrations" that defend an heroic and very sophisticated civilisation, inventing when there are no sources, and the countries of "after the migrations" that defend for the migrations were better & there wasn't anything important before. I agree with you when history becomes politics, i can tell this because i'm romanian and i know weird theories about how romanians as a people formed. It's really sad that these regimes pushed for propaganda histories instead of having true debates :/
لا وجود لاباده جماعيه وعلماء الجينات يؤكدون ذلك لماذا الشعب الايراني مثلا لايوجد في دماءهم جينات منغوليه او شرق اسيويه رغم ان المغول حكموا ايران بعد ان احتلوها واجدادك كانوا يتزوجون ويزوجون بناتهم بقاده اتراك للحصول على ولائهم اتمني ان لا تنجر في ادعاء النقاء العرقي
@@tranchedecake3897,this commentator himself is also engaged in propaganda, since he accuses us all Turkic-speaking people, generalizing. He divides the world into black and white
to answer one question, Taklimakan sounds Turkic to me. A modern Turkish word, takilmak has a modern meaning of hanging out with friends, but the older definition is to get stuck, or tangled. Other nearby areas on that map are all pretty much turkic too. ps: I'm of Crimean Tatar (old turkic) origin.
I’m Kyrgyz from Kyrgyzstan 🇰🇬 it is pronounced as Kyr-gyz-stan with G sounding like in google. Thanks for the video, although I’m not overly interested in ancient history, rather interested in AD, any videos about Central Asia as an area is always fascinating.
Hi, abalengez qanday! I think that's that Kyrgyz, correct? Thanks so much for stopping by and correcting me with the pronunciation, I really appreciate it. I do want to create more videos on the region, I just need to read up more on it first. Hopefully in the 2nd half of 2020 I'll be able to put some more out. Thanks again for stopping by, I really appreciate it!
History with Cy abalym jakshy, rahmat:) Yes please keep doing what you doing, I always watch TH-cam history channels and there are not many video us about Central Asia.
Hanfu Girl introduced this channel to me- I'd like to learn more about Kazakhstan's past and the history of the Kazakhs. Thanks for making this video- very helpful!
Hi and thanks for stopping by the channel! I do want to go more into the history of Kazakhstan and more of Central Asia in general. That though I"ll probably be able to do more in Fall of this year. However, I will be talking about more ancient and medieval periods of history that took place in the land that is now Kazakhstan (along with Uzbekistan and Tajikistan) this summer. Stay tuned for that! Once again, thanks so much for stopping by the channel, I really appreciate it!
The Kazakhs are relative newcomers in that land. They are somewhat descendants of the Mongol Empire. Well before them the great ancient civilizations of various origins ruled that part of the world, starting from BMAC - a contemporary and a trading partner of the Hindus Valley (Harappan) civilization.
I believe Kazakh people are in fact Kyrgyz people, only separated some 500 years ago calling themselves free steppe tribes. Kazakh means free spirited or something like that.
@ Still, they, together with other Turkic peoples made up the majority of the Mongol Empire and as distinct people were firmed at about that time. The direct decendants of the Cumans/Kipchaks are the Crimean Tatars ( not to mix with the Tatars of Volga who are completely different people).
@@manichaean1888 Kazaks are made of tribes and clans. The tribes had been living there before Mongols. We just chose to be united under the name Kazak.
Very interesting video and I will look at the other ones too. Presently reading The Silk Roads and find little differences. Very hard to know the region's history exactly
Hey Cy, I happened to come across this older video. I think you should make on on the Proto-Indo-Iranians (Abashevo, Sintashta and Andronovo cultures) and their origins, I can help you with this as I've delved significantly in the archaeological and genetic data. A recent paper just came out which found the ancestors of Proto-Indo-Iranians in the Russian forest (above the steppes) around 2800 bc. I've made some summaries of the stuff I've read (all based on scientific data) and if you would like to you can use it for your content! Cheers!
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by and the suggestions, I really appreciate them. Sure, I'd be very interested in looking into them further. This might be better to discuss over email... you can contact me at historywithcy[@]gmail. com Thanks, stay safe!
@Ksjs Jdjdb Andronovo is from 1800-1000 bc, so the linguistic divergence of Proto-Indo-Iranian towards Iranian and Indic had likely already occured and if not was ocurring during that timeframe. During that timeframe we already have Indo-European languages attested in regions that had little to do with the Andronovans, such as Mycenaean and Anatolian languages (Hitto-Luwian). so no, Andronovo is not Proto-Indo-European, it is too late and Andronovo is more or less only directly ancestral to Indo-Iranians, and later etnnic groups with Indo-Iranian ancestry.
@Ksjs Jdjdb Andronovo= Iranian and Indo-Aryan = Indo-European. But Andronovo =/= Proto-Indo-European as it postdates the Proto-Indo-European phase. Does that help?
Hi. I've just been reading about Tartusso civilisation in south Spain from bronze age. Paeloiberi mixed with many phoenicians and some greek.. Maybe some celtoniberian. Very interesting people but was lost about iron age if I remember the article.maybe natural disaster no one is sure. But it's mentioned in several ancient histories and traded lots to east med. Etc. They found some archeology about the civilisation and been excavating an area called hue la... the article I was reading was saying they have found some statues maybe grave coverings and being as no one knows really what they looked like they hope to gain info from this. They believe the people had their religious beliefs founded in nature rather than in idols. I know its a long way from the subject of indo European people's of the steppes and central Asia but I just thought that maybe since you do such brilliant. Well researched. Clear and enjoyable articles you might be able sometime to do something on TArtasso? I much appreciate all of your work and have learnt a lot. Thank you
This is one geographical area that I have known nothing about. It's only mentioned when the people of the area would interfere with the more well-known cultures in Mesopotamia or Europe. That always left a big blank in my understanding. They would be like a character that suddenly appeared in a novel that had a massive impact on the story, but were never explained or given a back story. It's definitely a big hole in how we in the west have been taught history. So, thanks for this video.
I am surprised how ignorant people of the world are, the Indian civilizations were equally advanced and lated housed the first ever universities in the word...before Alexander annexed Mesopotamia, Babylon...all these areas have Indian influence
I am so confused by the history of central asia when I researched on google. Thanks for this video!! Definitely looking forward to learning more from you! In particular, I'm constantly confused about the terms like Sasanian, Parthian, Sogdian, Scynthian, Bactrian Samarkand and how they all relate to each other!
Hi, and thanks for stopping by the channel! Actually you're in luck! This summer I'll be covering a lot of these... starting with the Persian Achaemenid Empire and talking about areas like Bactria, Sogdiana, Margiana and other areas around the Oxus/Amu Darya region, and then going into Seleucid, Parthian, Kushan and Sasanian. My goal is to have this done by mid July. If there are any other parts of Central Asia that you're interested in, please let me know and I'll do my best to include them. Again, thanks so much for stopping by the channel, I really appreciate it!
@@Hanfugirl , if I might be of assistance? Sasanian refers to one period of Iranian Imperium, that from 224 C.E. to the 650's, the which they called Iranshahr, named for Sasan the grandfather of Ardashir I who founded this dynasty. The end date depends of whether the death of Yazdegerd III in 651 marks its end or, as some do, also including at least some of the 'reign' of his son Peroz III (who, after the Arab conquest of the Sasanid Empire, with followers, was accepted as refugees into the Imperium of Tang China which, for a while, reached into Central Eurasia. Parthian is one name, the other being the Arsacid, for the Irani Imperium that preceded the Sasanid, between 247 B.C.E. to 224 C.E. ; the alternative names are from the region of Parthia, roughly the Northeast of Iran with Eastern Turkmenistan, or from Arsaces I who conquered Parthia, from when his dynasty gradually defeated the Hellenistic Seleucid Empire (that was a successor state of the conquests of Alexander the Great), of which Parthia was part. Sogdian, from Sugd/Sughudha, refers to the Sogdian peoples, the Irani family language they spoke, and Sogdiana to the region they inhabited. As an Achaemenid Empire Satrap (province), Sogdiana covered much of the Eastern lands between the Amu Darya (Oxus) River and the Syr Daria (Jaxus) River or, in current nations, most of Tadjikistan, Western Kyrgyzstan, Eastern Uzbekistan, and some of Southern Kazakhstan. Samarkand was the chief city of Sogdiana, at varied times, and is said to have been founded between 700 C.E. and 800 C.E. (according to the Institute of Archeology of Samarkand), although there are archaeological digs establishing some degree of Human presence in the area of the city dating back thousands of years earlier yet. Currently it is in Uzbekistan. Bactrian, refers to the Achaemenid Satrap just South of Sogdia, with the chief city of Balkh, and to the peoples from there. After Alexander the Great conquered Bactria, marrying his wife Rukhsana (Roxelana) from the region, the region became the seat of the Graeco-Bactrian Kingdom, under his successors, known for its combined artistic tradition (from East and West) as the Gandhara style. Scythians, or the Sakas, were a steppe peoples speaking an Irani language, ranging from North of the Black Sea through to Northern India, at different times. They were a significant power between the 7th and the 4th Centuries B.C.E. but, after defeats by sundry opponents, by the 2nd Century B.C.E. the Scythians had been assimilated/incorporated into other peoples -Slavs, Alans, and others. Hopeful' that helps.
It is Not true that population was primarily nomadic. What about Ancient Bactrians, A. Sogdians, A. Khorezmians? Those were settled people on those ancient territories. We had both - settlede and nomadic tribes - autochthonous population.
12:51 describes the what's found in the Bulgar culture. Krum of the dulo dynasty famously made the Byzantine emperors skull into a decorative cup (850ad)
following of the genetic studies from Yohannes Krause on the genetic origin of the indo european branch, it seems that the most important part of ancestry in proportion were the horses riders of the yamnaya culture 6 OOO years before present( in the ukrainian plains), and that most of the europeans descend from the mix of yamnaya people, ancient hunter gatherers from Europe and anatolian people who brought agriculture
What about migration from Africa? That would have been an influence too. Plus I thought central Asia included Persia which was an empire of settled people who bought horses from the northern nomadic tribes and gave presents of silks and other fineries to keep them outside their borders and to have a peaceful co-existence
Thank you for the video and completely enjoyed it. It had valuable information about Central Asia. I noticed the man in the middle appears to be dressed like a Native American with feathers on a type of dreamcatcher. Some of my DNA is from North and Central Asia along with Native American DNA.
A theme that is apparent, is descriptions of feared enemies as undesirable in some manner: ugly, primitive, uncultured, vicious, etc., as a means to take away their humanity.
so many words are similar, share same region in different historical times, believed in same shamanic believes, nomadic culture, i can go on and write a phd thesis on this, so fuck off
@@blackcohn that doesnt mean a language is related. Look at Akkadian and Sumerian, they shared many cultural aspects and many words, yet they are two different language family.
@@shomurodov_fan_page9254Sumerian was never considered altai family. Altai family is not fully disproven. Certain aspects of Altai family is disproven, for example, classification of Japanese and Korean are disproven. Whereas mongols and turkics have a lot shared. The eastern turkic people even share common physical features like mongols. The Turks and mongols also commingled and intermarried to large extend. Many central Asian khanates were Turko-mongol hybrids.
Rath Shah, the word Ratha is a Sanskrit word,meaning chariot mentioned in our Vedas and scriptures, you are well researched and i was actually looking at your videos 10 days before my history masters exams,but you conviniently sideline the the most important part, the history of ancient Indian civilizations that is very closely connected to the portion that you are describing in this video .Also Sanskrit as a language had developed much before the central asian and Iranian people had started to use Sanskrit words, Aryan is what Indians called it's a Sanskrit word.
There’s no such thing as an Altaic language family. That has been debunked by many linguists. The Turkic language family is the correct term to use for Central Asia
Yes, it's on the link... it was the 2nd most popular topic as voted by my Patreon group so will do it after a few other requested ones. Thanks for the suggestion, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Since you made the effort to produce this video, you should have included proper subtitles. The auto-generated ones mess up the names anyway. In your case, you happen to mispronounce many of them, which makes things worse for those who are not familiar with the history of the areas you talk about.
Hi Eva, thanks for your comment. This was one of my first videos that I made so long ago, so I honestly didn't know anything about subtitles. Also, what mispronunciations are you referring to? I'm actually quite familiar with the region as my ancestry is from greater Khorasan and I'm familiar with the languages, including Persian. Any insight would be great...thanks!
@@HistorywithCy But you don’t speak Chinese! So, your pronunciation of Xinjiang was not exactly right! In addition, Taklamakan does not mean what you said. A lot of people say so, too but…
Yeah keep skipping Tengrism/Koktengri belief mixed with Shamanism, Animism and Totemism. Also keep skipping the Hun Empire, Kokturk States, Uyghurs, Sybrians and others...
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by, I really appreciate it. Actually this is the early history before all that you mentioned... the Turkic history of the steppe comes a bit later on, something I'll get to in another series of videos. Thanks again and stay safe!
n the first image of the video, the statue Hunor and Magor are the two Scythians. The maps are not accurate! At that time there were only provinces, Ukraine didn't exist, Italy didn't exist, England didn't exist, France didn't exist...And many countries didn't exist at that time. Among the languages in the Carpathian basin, Hungarian-Scythia was omitted The zabla, the saddle, the saddle... these are all Hungarian inventions! There are many mistakes in the video!
1)If you quote a book, tell the title and the author. 2) the culture of settled people was a richer culture that is why they eventually developed countries, states. Nomads couldnt do that.
@@ChachiMogo yes before conquered by Doro 1 samara (in russia) and samar- kand, (in Uzbekistan and later added by Persians ....qand the original name was samara (see samarqand province). And we understand each other. And punjabis or other skunks never been however hephalittes/black huns bring a lot of Indian, Russian, Chinese (currently named dungans) slaves to central asia. Especially Indians or suskirts was bringed to (punjabis in namangan province)(other darker Indian tribes bringed to andijan).
They were primarily caucasian in appearence with an admixture of 10-15% from East asia as they primarily descended from a folk migration of corded ware indo europeans from Central Europe (a mix of neolithic farmers from Northern Europe and Yamnaya herders) which would form the Andronovo culture in Central Asia and Iranic peoples of the area
From what I've read the similarities between Zoroastrian theology and Abrahamic theology are often superficial and greatly exaggerated. Not to mention Zoroastrianism didn't take off in Persia until after the Jewish Exile was over and the Jewish people were allowed to return to Judea. The similarities are fascinating nevertheless and its interesting to see that a somewhat similar form of monotheism developed independently. Not to say I think mutual influence was improbable. edit: I mean to say I don't think it was *impossible* for both religions to influence each other
Yeah, I've always found it interesting too because I'm actually from a Zoroastrian family but I also have a good number of Jewish relatives. There are A LOT of similarities. Thanks for stopping by, more to come soon!
@@HistorywithCy Thanks for the reply! I find Central Asia to be a fascinating region, in part because it's more or less obscure and not often talked about, at least in the West. I didn't know much about it until recently. We often hear people talk about how the Middle East or the Indian Subcontinent are unique in Asia, but Central Asia isn't brought up as often
good joke even your vedic scholars say otherwise. aryan origin is beyond north. avesta also supports that. there was vedic civilization that stretched from britain to india. pie language supports that dna resesrch supports that but who knowns. but it wasnt a race there was around 200 nationalities. like in modern russia. that would explain languages branching out. my opinion
South Asia = Indian Subcontinent. The term South Asia was made popular in the 80's but countries in the subcontinent who thought the name, Indian subcontinent, was too India centric. Thus, the term South Asia was used instead of the Indian subcontinent. Afghanistan is located on the Iranian plateau and not a part of the Indian subcontinent/South Asia.
That about women being equal to men is a mere feministic phantasy tale of our days. They practiced polygamy and daughters were maried off to whoever...
@Мастурбек Кумысович Hazaras are mix of Tajik Iranians and Mongols. Uzbaks too mix of Tajik and Turko Mongols. Turkmens are too mix of Turko Mongols in Afghanistan. Turkic and Mongoloids have nothing to do with Aryans. They are not native to Afghanistan.
@Мастурбек Кумысович Some of them are related to Israelites according to the DNA test but not all of them relate to Israelites. Most of them have pure Iranic (Aryai) DNA and their language Pooshtoo is an Eastern Iranian language. They belong to Iranian Peoples.
Idk why, being from USA, but I’m fascinated by the Central Asian region. Maybe it’s because of how little it’s talked about, or that it’s truly an interior world since it’s the most landlocked region on earth. It feels so deep geographically, a sprawling frontier like Northern Canada or Siberia, and just as mysterious. So thank you for this video!
thank you for your interest in us
for us it also seems that we are the most remote place as if
I am Kyrgyz and live in Kyrgyzstan, my language is Kyrgyz, my second language is Turkish (it was easy for me to learn since we come from the same family, Turkic peoples) if you want to visit Central Asia one day, then I suggest Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan - these places are more advanced, as well Kyrgyzstan, there is a place Isyk-Kul, the pearl of Kyrgyzstan, a warm lake means in translation, I met tourists there! who spoke English🎉
Cy.
I've watched your whole catalog now, and I just gotta say WOW man.
Your passion for history comes thru EVERY video. I can feel it.
You've come a long way from the first few videos you made, but that passion is still there as strong as ever.
Thank you so much for sharing your passion with all of us.
I hope you'd also include the pamarian history in the next video. Thanks for covering central Asian history , it's quite rare to find much about it on the internet .
Hi, thanks for stopping by! I will actually be doing more on ancient Central Asia next month. In July I'll be doing more ancient Persian history and that will segue into vids on Bactria, Sogdiana and Margiana (that's the goal at least). More definitely to come soon!
@@HistorywithCy thanks . Im actually a wakhi speaker and I'm researching on my language recently but I couldn't find much. The fact that surprised me the most while my research was that our language is atleast known to be 4000 years old which is quite astonishing considering our tiny population and our language is a endangered language. Now I'm very curious about overall central Asian culture and history . I think central Asia has a very colorful and vibrant culture which is usually overlooked by the mainstream media and social media.
@@evia9354 oh wow that is awesome! I've read a little about the Wakhi people because I've been studying the history and geography of Tajikistan and areas like the Gorno-Badakhshan region...it's a very beautiful area. That's so interesting...just curious, are you from Tajikistan?
@@HistorywithCy no I'm from wakhi region of gojal in Pakistan. Since we are not that connected with the badakshan and other wakhi regions in other countries. We don't know much about the history .
I really liked this video, glad you're branching out into some other little-known bits of history. Would love to see some more about early steppe empires.
Very well researched video of such a complex region. You should have more subscribers.
Thank you, more on Central Asia coming soon!
Thank you for the video! I'm from Kazakhstan and wanted to see what videos are up there about Central Asia. This was very nicely done and gives great overview of the region. I liked the part where you talked about the territories.. it's true that boundaries are unclear and even modern day Russia has some people that are closer to our nations culturally and lingiustucally than Russians (west and north-west of Kazakhstan).
Hopefully you uploaded more videos about our cultures I'm looking forward to check them out.
Also, I think you could add a few interesting details about our ancestors: 1) the great wall of China was built in order to protect the Chinese at the time from Central Asian tribes; 2) Mongolian Empire's impact, especially the way the whole bloodline was changed in the subsequent years after the invasion; 3) Hunns and Attila; 3) Tengrism - religion at the time and it's impact.
P.s. you could pronounce it as (K)Haresm :)
Very well done. I'm Uzbek (from Fergana Valley, so more Persian than Turk) You touched interesting subject almost unknown to western public. I should recommend investigate Greek influence and connection between two early civilisation. If you will make a video about Greeko baktrian kingdom and it's influence on early Buddhism it should be interesting for your audience, I believe.
Thank you glad western people start looking what was outside of western civilization
Thank you so much for your interesting short guide to our history. I am tajik from Tajikistan, as I am getting older, I am becoming more interested in history, especially my own people and language. Although I do believe, we are all one. But still it’s very good to know where we came from and how we have changed during the millenniums.
Being surrounded by mostly Turkic people, it’s not really easy for us to really prove anything. Although, there are many archaeological and historical proves that we lived in this region since ancient time, there is always useless debate going on. Especially that Turkic(or maybe they just speak turkic but genetically they might be still Iranic people) now are majority and they want to unite(which absolutely is ok), but politically and panturkisticaly they want to destroy and erase the tajik history. In their school history books they refer themselves as the ancient people and that tajiks came with arabs or sometime they even write that we are gypsy.
All I want to say, that there are not many nations in the world who survived so many genocides and invasions, like Iranic people of East(tajik) and west(persian). Well..here we go that is the difference of Iranic culture compared to others, we welcomed and accepted refugees for thousands of years, and never try to destroy their culture. The jews, the turks the gypsies they all had their own identity and their own culture. We never force anyone to become Persian. Even the Cyrus the Great, when he invade new lands, he allowed people to speak their own language to worship their own gods. In fact the languages of The Achamenid Empire were the ones mostly spoken, not just his own people languages. Imagine the level of tolerance on that period.
But now that we live in 21 centuries, people still live on survival mode. They try to rewrite history, invade, destroy and colonize. That’s insane!
you want to be surrounded and isolated ?
im a white man zoroastrian in bishkek
😆😄😂
that makes me thing of balkan history debates, with the "pro-migration" historians making some funky theories to explain why they can claim the lands,
but you see that it's just politics, it's called proto-chronism and it's very common in post-communist states, because of the propaganda during the communist regimes (communism was about uniting humanity, not enforcing nationalism, but that's what happened)
So yeah, there are 2 sides, the countries of "before the migrations" that defend an heroic and very sophisticated civilisation, inventing when there are no sources, and the countries of "after the migrations" that defend for the migrations were better & there wasn't anything important before.
I agree with you when history becomes politics, i can tell this because i'm romanian and i know weird theories about how romanians as a people formed. It's really sad that these regimes pushed for propaganda histories instead of having true debates :/
لا وجود لاباده جماعيه وعلماء الجينات يؤكدون ذلك لماذا الشعب الايراني مثلا لايوجد في دماءهم جينات منغوليه او شرق اسيويه رغم ان المغول حكموا ايران بعد ان احتلوها واجدادك كانوا يتزوجون ويزوجون بناتهم بقاده اتراك للحصول على ولائهم اتمني ان لا تنجر في ادعاء النقاء العرقي
@@tranchedecake3897,this commentator himself is also engaged in propaganda, since he accuses us all Turkic-speaking people, generalizing. He divides the world into black and white
to answer one question, Taklimakan sounds Turkic to me. A modern Turkish word, takilmak has a modern meaning of hanging out with friends, but the older definition is to get stuck, or tangled. Other nearby areas on that map are all pretty much turkic too. ps: I'm of Crimean Tatar (old turkic) origin.
It could also be Persian taklamakan meaning bald house and it's makes sense as it is a desert
I’m Kyrgyz from Kyrgyzstan 🇰🇬 it is pronounced as Kyr-gyz-stan with G sounding like in google.
Thanks for the video, although I’m not overly interested in ancient history, rather interested in AD, any videos about Central Asia as an area is always fascinating.
Hi, abalengez qanday! I think that's that Kyrgyz, correct? Thanks so much for stopping by and correcting me with the pronunciation, I really appreciate it. I do want to create more videos on the region, I just need to read up more on it first. Hopefully in the 2nd half of 2020 I'll be able to put some more out. Thanks again for stopping by, I really appreciate it!
History with Cy abalym jakshy, rahmat:)
Yes please keep doing what you doing, I always watch TH-cam history channels and there are not many video us about Central Asia.
gul ! privet greetings from bishkek
Great history telling Sir. "Hungry for knowledge of ancient history " people like me are indebted to you. Love you sir.❤
Hanfu Girl introduced this channel to me- I'd like to learn more about Kazakhstan's past and the history of the Kazakhs. Thanks for making this video- very helpful!
Hi and thanks for stopping by the channel! I do want to go more into the history of Kazakhstan and more of Central Asia in general. That though I"ll probably be able to do more in Fall of this year. However, I will be talking about more ancient and medieval periods of history that took place in the land that is now Kazakhstan (along with Uzbekistan and Tajikistan) this summer. Stay tuned for that!
Once again, thanks so much for stopping by the channel, I really appreciate it!
The Kazakhs are relative newcomers in that land. They are somewhat descendants of the Mongol Empire. Well before them the great ancient civilizations of various origins ruled that part of the world, starting from BMAC - a contemporary and a trading partner of the Hindus Valley (Harappan) civilization.
I believe Kazakh people are in fact Kyrgyz people, only separated some 500 years ago calling themselves free steppe tribes. Kazakh means free spirited or something like that.
@ Still, they, together with other Turkic peoples made up the majority of the Mongol Empire and as distinct people were firmed at about that time. The direct decendants of the Cumans/Kipchaks are the Crimean Tatars ( not to mix with the Tatars of Volga who are completely different people).
@@manichaean1888 Kazaks are made of tribes and clans. The tribes had been living there before Mongols. We just chose to be united under the name Kazak.
Very interesting video and I will look at the other ones too. Presently reading The Silk Roads and find little differences. Very hard to know the region's history exactly
Hey Cy, I happened to come across this older video. I think you should make on on the Proto-Indo-Iranians (Abashevo, Sintashta and Andronovo cultures) and their origins, I can help you with this as I've delved significantly in the archaeological and genetic data. A recent paper just came out which found the ancestors of Proto-Indo-Iranians in the Russian forest (above the steppes) around 2800 bc. I've made some summaries of the stuff I've read (all based on scientific data) and if you would like to you can use it for your content! Cheers!
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by and the suggestions, I really appreciate them. Sure, I'd be very interested in looking into them further. This might be better to discuss over email... you can contact me at historywithcy[@]gmail. com
Thanks, stay safe!
@Ksjs Jdjdb Andronovo is from 1800-1000 bc, so the linguistic divergence of Proto-Indo-Iranian towards Iranian and Indic had likely already occured and if not was ocurring during that timeframe. During that timeframe we already have Indo-European languages attested in regions that had little to do with the Andronovans, such as Mycenaean and Anatolian languages (Hitto-Luwian). so no, Andronovo is not Proto-Indo-European, it is too late and Andronovo is more or less only directly ancestral to Indo-Iranians, and later etnnic groups with Indo-Iranian ancestry.
@Ksjs Jdjdb Andronovo= Iranian and Indo-Aryan = Indo-European. But Andronovo =/= Proto-Indo-European as it postdates the Proto-Indo-European phase. Does that help?
@Ksjs Jdjdb Not sure why you got that impression mate, I'm not angry at all.
Hi. I've just been reading about Tartusso civilisation in south Spain from bronze age. Paeloiberi mixed with many phoenicians and some greek.. Maybe some celtoniberian. Very interesting people but was lost about iron age if I remember the article.maybe natural disaster no one is sure. But it's mentioned in several ancient histories and traded lots to east med. Etc. They found some archeology about the civilisation and been excavating an area called hue la... the article I was reading was saying they have found some statues maybe grave coverings and being as no one knows really what they looked like they hope to gain info from this. They believe the people had their religious beliefs founded in nature rather than in idols. I know its a long way from the subject of indo European people's of the steppes and central Asia but I just thought that maybe since you do such brilliant. Well researched. Clear and enjoyable articles you might be able sometime to do something on TArtasso? I much appreciate all of your work and have learnt a lot. Thank you
My lifelong goal will be one day to travel the Silk Road. Thanks for another interesting video.
This is one geographical area that I have known nothing about. It's only mentioned when the people of the area would interfere with the more well-known cultures in Mesopotamia or Europe. That always left a big blank in my understanding. They would be like a character that suddenly appeared in a novel that had a massive impact on the story, but were never explained or given a back story. It's definitely a big hole in how we in the west have been taught history. So, thanks for this video.
I am surprised how ignorant people of the world are, the Indian civilizations were equally advanced and lated housed the first ever universities in the word...before Alexander annexed Mesopotamia, Babylon...all these areas have Indian influence
I am so confused by the history of central asia when I researched on google. Thanks for this video!! Definitely looking forward to learning more from you! In particular, I'm constantly confused about the terms like Sasanian, Parthian, Sogdian, Scynthian, Bactrian Samarkand and how they all relate to each other!
Hi, and thanks for stopping by the channel! Actually you're in luck! This summer I'll be covering a lot of these... starting with the Persian Achaemenid Empire and talking about areas like Bactria, Sogdiana, Margiana and other areas around the Oxus/Amu Darya region, and then going into Seleucid, Parthian, Kushan and Sasanian. My goal is to have this done by mid July. If there are any other parts of Central Asia that you're interested in, please let me know and I'll do my best to include them.
Again, thanks so much for stopping by the channel, I really appreciate it!
WONDERFUL!! Thanks so much for your time and effort!!! REALLY HELPFUL! Looking forward!!!
@@Hanfugirl , if I might be of assistance?
Sasanian refers to one period of Iranian Imperium, that from 224 C.E. to the 650's, the which they called Iranshahr, named for Sasan the grandfather of Ardashir I who founded this dynasty. The end date depends of whether the death of Yazdegerd III in 651 marks its end or, as some do, also including at least some of the 'reign' of his son Peroz III (who, after the Arab conquest of the Sasanid Empire, with followers, was accepted as refugees into the Imperium of Tang China which, for a while, reached into Central Eurasia.
Parthian is one name, the other being the Arsacid, for the Irani Imperium that preceded the Sasanid, between 247 B.C.E. to 224 C.E. ; the alternative names are from the region of Parthia, roughly the Northeast of Iran with Eastern Turkmenistan, or from Arsaces I who conquered Parthia, from when his dynasty gradually defeated the Hellenistic Seleucid Empire (that was a successor state of the conquests of Alexander the Great), of which Parthia was part.
Sogdian, from Sugd/Sughudha, refers to the Sogdian peoples, the Irani family language they spoke, and Sogdiana to the region they inhabited. As an Achaemenid Empire Satrap (province), Sogdiana covered much of the Eastern lands between the Amu Darya (Oxus) River and the Syr Daria (Jaxus) River or, in current nations, most of Tadjikistan, Western Kyrgyzstan, Eastern Uzbekistan, and some of Southern Kazakhstan.
Samarkand was the chief city of Sogdiana, at varied times, and is said to have been founded between 700 C.E. and 800 C.E. (according to the Institute of Archeology of Samarkand), although there are archaeological digs establishing some degree of Human presence in the area of the city dating back thousands of years earlier yet. Currently it is in Uzbekistan.
Bactrian, refers to the Achaemenid Satrap just South of Sogdia, with the chief city of Balkh, and to the peoples from there. After Alexander the Great conquered Bactria, marrying his wife Rukhsana (Roxelana) from the region, the region became the seat of the Graeco-Bactrian Kingdom, under his successors, known for its combined artistic tradition (from East and West) as the Gandhara style.
Scythians, or the Sakas, were a steppe peoples speaking an Irani language, ranging from North of the Black Sea through to Northern India, at different times. They were a significant power between the 7th and the 4th Centuries B.C.E. but, after defeats by sundry opponents, by the 2nd Century B.C.E. the Scythians had been assimilated/incorporated into other peoples -Slavs, Alans, and others.
Hopeful' that helps.
You butchered most of the names and some of the regions. But still good knowledge
Thank you! Yeah, I'm working on my pronunciation for the next one.
awesome...always refreshing.
It is Not true that population was primarily nomadic. What about Ancient Bactrians, A. Sogdians, A. Khorezmians? Those were settled people on those ancient territories. We had both - settlede and nomadic tribes - autochthonous population.
Yes, I got a little confused with the history in this video even though I found it generally interesting
He’s talking about history of Central Asia way before these empires.
12:51 describes the what's found in the Bulgar culture. Krum of the dulo dynasty famously made the Byzantine emperors skull into a decorative cup (850ad)
following of the genetic studies from Yohannes Krause on the genetic origin of the indo european branch, it seems that the most important part of ancestry in proportion were the horses riders of the yamnaya culture 6 OOO years before present( in the ukrainian plains), and that most of the europeans descend from the mix of yamnaya people, ancient hunter gatherers from Europe and anatolian people who brought agriculture
Interesting stuff....I need to read up on that, thanks for providing some more info!
@@HistorywithCy here's a link to a conference he made in University of California;;;th-cam.com/video/JTY9K1Q_Sbg/w-d-xo.html
Oh, this is really interesting. UCSD isn't too far from where I'm at...thanks for sharing!
@@HistorywithCy You're welcome
What about migration from Africa? That would have been an influence too. Plus I thought central Asia included Persia which was an empire of settled people who bought horses from the northern nomadic tribes and gave presents of silks and other fineries to keep them outside their borders and to have a peaceful co-existence
Thank you for the video and completely enjoyed it. It had valuable information about Central Asia. I noticed the man in the middle appears to be dressed like a Native American with feathers on a type of dreamcatcher. Some of my DNA is from North and Central Asia along with Native American DNA.
Like the human touch you bring to your videos, no computer voice just you and your rare mispronounces, wonderful. Good luck to you in all you do!
8:13 is that an actual costume from the time ? or are they using paintings to know what it looked like ?
Real
It's real and is now in a museum, but it definetely wasn't common :)
Interesting. Thank You
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
Great video, thanks
Thank you!
Bellissimo, grazie!
Thank you!
Quite a dapper Central Asian dude
@Ksjs Jdjdb he was
@Ksjs Jdjdb Then what was he?
A theme that is apparent, is descriptions of feared enemies as undesirable in some manner: ugly, primitive, uncultured, vicious, etc.,
as a means to take away their humanity.
Altaic language family has been disproven
so many words are similar, share same region in different historical times, believed in same shamanic believes, nomadic culture, i can go on and write a phd thesis on this, so fuck off
@@blackcohn that doesnt mean a language is related. Look at Akkadian and Sumerian, they shared many cultural aspects and many words, yet they are two different language family.
Source?
@@koryos4401 shumerians are also prt of altai family
@@shomurodov_fan_page9254Sumerian was never considered altai family. Altai family is not fully disproven. Certain aspects of Altai family is disproven, for example, classification of Japanese and Korean are disproven. Whereas mongols and turkics have a lot shared. The eastern turkic people even share common physical features like mongols. The Turks and mongols also commingled and intermarried to large extend. Many central Asian khanates were Turko-mongol hybrids.
7:44 absolutely DRIPPING
Do you know about country name TIBET?
Rath Shah, the word Ratha is a Sanskrit word,meaning chariot mentioned in our Vedas and scriptures, you are well researched and i was actually looking at your videos 10 days before my history masters exams,but you conviniently sideline the the most important part, the history of ancient Indian civilizations that is very closely connected to the portion that you are describing in this video .Also Sanskrit as a language had developed much before the central asian and Iranian people had started to use Sanskrit words, Aryan is what Indians called it's a Sanskrit word.
in this history re.cap, i was wanting to know how the gesar and manas epic fit in the central asian history
There’s no such thing as an Altaic language family. That has been debunked by many linguists. The Turkic language family is the correct term to use for Central Asia
Where is "the pass of the Comedarum"?
are you saying hindi comes from europe ?
Are you saying you came from your sister?
Scythians video?
Yes, it's on the link... it was the 2nd most popular topic as voted by my Patreon group so will do it after a few other requested ones. Thanks for the suggestion, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Hello from Tajikistan
It’s funny because you don’t mention Afghanistan much.
Asha means hope in Sanskrit.
or righteousness
Since you made the effort to produce this video, you should have included proper subtitles. The auto-generated ones mess up the names anyway. In your case, you happen to mispronounce many of them, which makes things worse for those who are not familiar with the history of the areas you talk about.
Hi Eva, thanks for your comment. This was one of my first videos that I made so long ago, so I honestly didn't know anything about subtitles. Also, what mispronunciations are you referring to? I'm actually quite familiar with the region as my ancestry is from greater Khorasan and I'm familiar with the languages, including Persian. Any insight would be great...thanks!
@@HistorywithCy But you don’t speak Chinese! So, your pronunciation of Xinjiang was not exactly right! In addition, Taklamakan does not mean what you said. A lot of people say so, too but…
@@evapaparisteidou9040 yes, Chinese words and names are difficult for me to pronounce, I'll concede that....
@@HistorywithCy Yes, you’re right. The /X/ is pronounced /sh/, for example.
Yeah keep skipping Tengrism/Koktengri belief mixed with Shamanism, Animism and Totemism. Also keep skipping the Hun Empire, Kokturk States, Uyghurs, Sybrians and others...
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by, I really appreciate it. Actually this is the early history before all that you mentioned... the Turkic history of the steppe comes a bit later on, something I'll get to in another series of videos. Thanks again and stay safe!
That altaic language family theory is widely discarded... just letting you know.. Random stranger looking for knowledge
n the first image of the video, the statue Hunor and Magor are the two Scythians. The maps are not accurate! At that time there were only provinces, Ukraine didn't exist, Italy didn't exist, England didn't exist, France didn't exist...And many countries didn't exist at that time.
Among the languages in the Carpathian basin, Hungarian-Scythia was omitted
The zabla, the saddle, the saddle... these are all Hungarian inventions!
There are many mistakes in the video!
DAMN.
"Cannot be over-stated".
The PLD religion of Zorastian ism showed influnces of ASSyrian Kingdom very diferent from Darvadian Culture all ocer Indian Sub Continent
*"The real history of Central Asia"* !!!!!
cyrus died north of sogdia
south kazakhstan
1)If you quote a book, tell the title and the author.
2) the culture of settled people was a richer culture that is why they eventually developed countries, states. Nomads couldnt do that.
Nomads can do that. They move in, settle down, marry locals. Some conquest may be involved.
30% Afghanistan isn't central Asia, but Uyghuristan and under Siberia is central asia too
Then what is it? How do you define Central Asia and other regions?
@@ChachiMogo central Asia's true border is turan. So no mountain areas.
@@youknowmyfirstlastname3206 But Serbia is Central Asia. LOL!
@@ChachiMogo yes before conquered by Doro 1 samara (in russia) and samar- kand, (in Uzbekistan and later added by Persians ....qand the original name was samara (see samarqand province). And we understand each other.
And punjabis or other skunks never been however hephalittes/black huns bring a lot of Indian, Russian, Chinese (currently named dungans) slaves to central asia.
Especially Indians or suskirts was bringed to (punjabis in namangan province)(other darker Indian tribes bringed to andijan).
Many still debate whether original Central Asians prior to mixing where either Mongoloid or Caucasoid
you need to go back to bronze age for that
Original inhabitants of Central Asia were ancient Iranians who were related to the Europeans, so they were most probably Caucasoid.
They were primarily caucasian in appearence with an admixture of 10-15% from East asia as they primarily descended from a folk migration of corded ware indo europeans from Central Europe (a mix of neolithic farmers from Northern Europe and Yamnaya herders) which would form the Andronovo culture in Central Asia and Iranic peoples of the area
white !
@@AK-vv1urshut up b..c.h you are persians soo nationalistic we are turks turan we lived there from bronze age according to datas
From what I've read the similarities between Zoroastrian theology and Abrahamic theology are often superficial and greatly exaggerated. Not to mention Zoroastrianism didn't take off in Persia until after the Jewish Exile was over and the Jewish people were allowed to return to Judea. The similarities are fascinating nevertheless and its interesting to see that a somewhat similar form of monotheism developed independently. Not to say I think mutual influence was improbable.
edit: I mean to say I don't think it was *impossible* for both religions to influence each other
Yeah, I've always found it interesting too because I'm actually from a Zoroastrian family but I also have a good number of Jewish relatives. There are A LOT of similarities. Thanks for stopping by, more to come soon!
@@HistorywithCy Thanks for the reply! I find Central Asia to be a fascinating region, in part because it's more or less obscure and not often talked about, at least in the West. I didn't know much about it until recently. We often hear people talk about how the Middle East or the Indian Subcontinent are unique in Asia, but Central Asia isn't brought up as often
Zoroastrianism is more similar to vedic religion
@@obiwan3375 yes
but did influence
god went from angry to more mellow
The indo European nomads were sophisticated not the Altaic nomads ... bactrians and sogs!
Both the Bactrians and the Sogdians were Indo-European people.
You're racist af
Urdu is indo-aryan and a dialect of Hindustani.
hindustani is indo aryan period
Two brothers...
It's just called two brothers........lol
Who are gujjars
Aryans migrated outside from india ..they didn't migrated to India
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good joke even your vedic scholars say otherwise. aryan origin is beyond north. avesta also supports that. there was vedic civilization that stretched from britain to india. pie language supports that dna resesrch supports that but who knowns. but it wasnt a race there was around 200 nationalities. like in modern russia. that would explain languages branching out. my opinion
roxana modern day uzbek
so sogdia
This looks like indian...
Turkic
Afghanistan is not part of Central Asia. It’s part of South Asia like Pakistan and India
South Asia = Indian Subcontinent. The term South Asia was made popular in the 80's but countries in the subcontinent who thought the name, Indian subcontinent, was too India centric. Thus, the term South Asia was used instead of the Indian subcontinent.
Afghanistan is located on the Iranian plateau and not a part of the Indian subcontinent/South Asia.
The Etruscans, Romans, Italians, Germans, are Central Asians from the Persian plateau.
That about women being equal to men is a mere feministic phantasy tale of our days. They practiced polygamy and daughters were maried off to whoever...
married to whoever offered the most horses or sheep
Afghans are the real Aryans
cope
Afghan or Pashtoons are related to Indian (Aryan), Iran (Aryai) and Jews.
@Мастурбек Кумысович Pashtoons are the Afghans dude. Beside them in Afghanistan reside Tajiks, Uzbaks, Hazaras etc.
@Мастурбек Кумысович Hazaras are mix of Tajik Iranians and Mongols. Uzbaks too mix of Tajik and Turko Mongols. Turkmens are too mix of Turko Mongols in Afghanistan. Turkic and Mongoloids have nothing to do with Aryans. They are not native to Afghanistan.
@Мастурбек Кумысович Some of them are related to Israelites according to the DNA test but not all of them relate to Israelites. Most of them have pure Iranic (Aryai) DNA and their language Pooshtoo is an Eastern Iranian language. They belong to Iranian Peoples.
Saya tidak paham
Choose Jesus Christ today!!!
No! I will wait until tomorrow