10 Differences between Protestants and Orthodox Church
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- What are the main differences between Protestants and the Eastern Orthodox Church? They both call themselves Christians and consider themselves more right than the other. Besides dress code, buildings, style, and music, what are the essential theological differences between these two Christian religions?
I interviewed 5 Orthodox priests in California to examine the critical differences. (Of course, after doing extensive research so I don't look like an idiot in front of them)
#1 - Bible
#2 - Authority
#3 - Mary
#4 - Saints
#5 - Icons
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*** Part 2 will be uploaded soon, but can you guess #10 - the most controversial difference? Comment below ***
"Pope" Luther as the infallible authority/measure for a church being "biblical" ... Did you know that Luther believed in the perpetual virginity of Mary, the Mother of God (whom he called like that), which you most likely don't do? So, if that's "biblical" (and it is), why don't you do the same as he did? Luther, actually, followed his own mind, like the multitude of creators of more or less divergent Protestant theologies and "churches" do, while they all believe that they were assisted by the Holy Spirit ... In the vanity of his mind, Luther cherry-picked from the true teachings of faith of the undivided Church of Christ of the first millennium, expressed at the highest level by the common mind of the Holy Fathers in the Ecumenical Councils, so that's why he didn't join the Eastern Orthodox Church.
@@pneumatikealetheia yeah, so Luther wasn't perfect either, and his theology had some mistakes. so even Luther isn't infallible nor is he ever regarded as pope status. but he started the amazing trend of putting the Bible first.
Of course, Luther wasn't perfect like either are you or your "church", but Luther was right on the topic I mentioned in my previous reply to you, "simply" because that was the faith of the first millennium undivided Church of Christ, the pillar of Truth. And what "amazing trend" were you writing about? You mean that of the Babylon-like tens of divergent Protestant interpretations of the Bible and of the thousands of Protestant denominations and "churches" professing their ramifications? I guess that it would be futile to recommend you the links or titles of well-written articles which prove the flaws of your alleged "Sola Scriptura" doctrine/argument/principle. They're already out there and can be read by everyone interested in reasonable, deeper research.
@@pastorjasonanswers P.S.: What Bible could have the Church of the first, say, four Christian centuries put "first", since there wasn't any canon of the New Testament yet universally recognized during that period of time and we know very well that there can be no Christian belief, or true teachings of faith, without at least the core message in it? Let alone the fact that during the same period of time and even much later many Christians had no access to a complete Bible to read it. Wasn't it the One, Holy, Catholic (not Roman) and Apostolic Church of Christ which preserved and taught the Truth? ...
Eastern Orthodox you forget that Genesis was at least four hundred years old (time of Egyptian slavery) but existed in oral form until Moses penned/orated it. The letters of the Apostles (Paul and Peter) and James existed by this point, which is where most scriptural doctrine comes from anyway. The book of Revelation was penned by John before his death. The gospels only came later because the first generation of the church either knew Christ directly or one person removed. From the second generation of the church until Constantine movement toward canonization was slow due to persecution. By the time of Constantine, Eusebius and Athanasius pretty much agreed on the books which should be included. There also was not much of a call for centralization until after Constantine's edict.
Orthodoxy is based. I am almost completely convinced of orthodoxy at this point.
Damn Gandalf
Wizardry isn't Christian, Gandalf!
Indeed, it's the true Church that holds dearly the traditions God gave us through His Apostles
yea they are true just not bazentine othodox...
Same. I really want to start going and eventually convert
Protestants-"This book is the ultimate authority."
Orthodox-"I wrote that book."
*Prophets and Apostles
Or you could say those books were written to our churches that still exist from 2000 years ago
This is an Orthodox joke, they didn't write a single Bible, the Bible was written by Christians from the first century... the Orthodox appeared during the time of Emperor Constantine...
@@Marcelo.1927 no difference
Protestants say the book is the ultimate authority while they removed a huge portion of it! 😂 Literal walking contradictions.
The Orthodox Church is the only church....
Amen!
Agreed
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agree in Greece we have a lot of proof that mother Mary is real
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You know your a new born one yes
Your Church still have the ancient true ways unlike the modern American rock concert false ways
Hey I'm also Lebanese my guy
@@joannechisholm4501
False way to serve ?? Who teach u about it? You never learn the bible especially
How about to worship God is not importan what way u use
Romans 14:17
For the kingdom of God is not about food and drink, but about righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.
Romans 1:16-17 (NIV) For I have firm confidence in the gospel, for the gospel is the power of God to save everyone who believes, firstly the Jews, but also the Greeks. For in it is manifested the righteousness of God, which proceeds from faith and leads to faith, as it is written, "The righteous shall live by faith."
The most important thing in Jesus' teachings is that love is what God wants
1 Corinthians 13:4-9 (NIV) Love is patient; love is kind; he is not jealous. He is not boastful and not arrogant. He doesn't do anything rude and he doesn't seek his own benefit. He is not angry and does not keep other people's faults. He does not rejoice in injustice, but he rejoices in the truth. He covers all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never ends; the prophecy will end; tongues will stop; knowledge will disappear. For our knowledge is not complete and our prophecies are not perfect.
Mark 3:31-35 (NIV) Then Jesus' mother and brothers came. While they were standing outside, they sent people calling for Him.
There was a crowd sitting around Him, they said to Him: "Behold, Your mother and brothers are outside, seeking to meet You."
Jesus answered them, "Who is my mother and who are my brothers?"
He looked at the people sitting around him and said, "Here is my mother and my brothers!
Whoever does the will of God, he is my brother, he is my sister, he is my mother."
@@joannechisholm4501 you are right 👍
The two photos in the beginning tell us a lot. Orthodoxy is sacred, Protestantism (especially non-denominational or evangelical) is a rock concert.
Dude, stop embarrassing yourself and study Church history.
Perfectly written. Host is not informed. He knows perhaps more than me but the purpose of the video is to further divide Christians which is not a holy trait.
Where should I start? What writings would you recommend?
Haha, 💯💯
I’m a proud independent Baptist (and a Protestant, obviously), but we would NEVER make our church a rock concert! It’s not fair to label all Protestants that way, but I see what you mean.
I’m non-denominational and I don’t go to those type of churches anymore. I definitely know what you mean though. Those type of churches were appealing when I was a teenager, but no longer.
By 30 seconds in, you are refuting history..."if the Orthodox church were biblical enough.." where do you think the Bible come from?.."There Protestants woulds have joined the E Orthodox Church." actually, Luther communicated with the Eat, and stated "We stand with the Greeks." They communicated for some time, which is amazing given the Orthodox Church was under occupation from the Ottomans. "only the Bible has the authority to speak for God" what about those few hundred years where there was no consensus on what the Bible even was. Later "Protestants don't pray to Mary or the Saints because...they don't help." Orthodox don't pray to them either, but ask, as we would ask anyone, to pray for us. Are they not alive in Christ? Is this not the Christ of the living and not of the dead? Are there not a "great cloud of witnesses?" shoot, even the Protestant view of the Atonement came from Anselm, a catholic bishop in the 1200s...
Christ is in our midst! ☦
I almost answered "if Protestants is biblical church.... why did they only first pop up 1500 years after the Apostles?" hahahahaha
Frank Herbert Thank You
Bible was taken out of the Roman Catholic church Luther he just translated from Latin to English
@@aby2cool interesting....i didn't know Luther had translated it to English....
Thankyou pastor Jason … this was the video I needed to choose Orthodoxy ☦️
Oh gosh this is painful to listen to. You made the Orthodox look even more correct.
Bahahaha
He said the truth.
@@tanjaeubanks lol ik, but that wasn't his intention. Imo the video should be renamed to "Protestant proves Orthodoxy" 😂
@@tanjaeubanks Your pride is why many don't convert. Only god knows. You don't.
Pride is a problem for us all. But it’s not pride to state with conviction what is factually true. If anything, feeling uncomfortable in response to the message and criticizing the one speaking truth (in this case about the validity of Orthodoxy compared to Protestantism) is more often than not God revealing to the human heart of the hearer something that not only challenges their intellectual presuppositions, but also (and primarily) their own pride of believing they have something all figured out when it is objectively clear they don’t even understand the basic history of the faith. I’m saying this charitably as a former Protestant. One can have a love for Christ and seek to do His will outside of Orthodoxy, but it is lacking the fullness of the faith as Christ delivered it to humanity through His Church.
I was raised in the Protestant Church, there was one cross, atop the altar in the centre of the church. The minister is more like a teacher than a leader. Our leader is Jesus Christ and we pray directly to Him. We celebrate Christmas, Palm Sunday, Lent and Easter. The only sacraments we perform are baptism, communion and marriage. Upon His ultimate sacrifice, Christ forgave all of our sins, ergo we do not need to confess to a man, but to God Himself. Good deeds are not required, but we do them anyway. The only rules that we follow are the Ten Commandments. I don’t care if your Catholic or Orthodox (my girlfriend is Catholic), to quote Emperor Constantine of Byzantium, “We are all the same in the eyes of God!”
I'm still protestant and I'll always be.
But what you think, it's admirable.
I'm protestant I also believe that you confess your sins directly to God through his son Jesus Christ an I also believe the Bible is a manual to how we should live and how to get to heaven and I dont believe you pray to the saints for there is one mediator between man an the father an his name is Christ Jesus
@@Pack_leader1989 me too
This is not the correct way that Jesus taught us to do. He made Himself very clear. Do not follow those who tell you to take the easy path and to not follow the Truth that Jesus taught us.
Having respectfully heard many of the differences between Orthodox and Protestant, I believe Orthodox to be more correct.
I agree I made some videos pointing out inconsistent thinking in so called bible believers
I'm glad the video helped. It's good to know the proper reasons instead of blindly following one's parents' faith., even if turning to Orthodox
@@teogg2252 - is that why the Protestants removed seven of its Books? Because they love the bible so much? Or when st. James in the bible says faith without works is dead, and they say to follow faith and scripture alone? Is that because they just love the bible SO MUCH???
@@teogg2252 how can you comprehend what Bible say...are you some theology master?!
@@pastorjasonanswers orthodox and catholics dont beleive that the rules and regulations must only come through bible......because we beleive that of the council of jerusalem guided by the holy spirit can invalidate circumcision any law of bible can be altered by the council of bishops guided by the knowledge and wisdom of the spirit of god
The difference?
I spotted protestant service is more likely going to see the movie.
Daughter of Tryggvi almost zero reverence in Protestant church now.
That isn’t true for all Protestants, like our independent Baptist church.
You should visit a Presbyterian church, you'll be shocked at how liturgical we are, especially the PCA
did you actually mean Charismatic and/or Pentacostal ??
I'm a Protestant, and our Church doesn't goes like the left one on the first background, more like the right one... even our Church basically only using single piano, not band one every sundays like Pentacostal do
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@@pierrehaumahu134 what's wrong that they have a couple instruments???? I don't get it , David got couple of them too as long they singing for God is perfect ! But study of the Bible in my view is most important,not only songs....
"in a protestant church you'll barely see a cross". Seems like protestant churches in the US are a lot different from European ones. In Europe there are real churches, not concert halls lol.
well, "church" is a body of believers, not a building, and America will soon follow Europe, as the decline of Christianity has left many empty cathedrals for others to take over, including Muslims. In America, most church buildings are being used, so I guess a concert hall or a downtown warehouse will do
A church is defined as two or more people who come together in prayer and worship.
concert hall is the perfect term lol
Protestant churches pop up from the ground in every corner of the US... a lot of them don't even have their own buildings, they're held in schools or community halls
cus most of them used ot be catholic churches turned heresy
This was a very respectful presentation of a different tradition. I appreciate that you allowed the priests to speak for themselves and give their take.
Study Christianity and you’ll see the truth. Don’t just make up stuff. In fact Matin Luther did say the eastern church must be the Correct one. The post and communications those day weren’t like today. Also everybody else wanted their own religions and versions of them. That’s why you have so many different protestent versions. Next time take care and do real research don’t just blurt out stuff!
These day and age if you know how to read, research have some common sense and get beyond your ego it’s easy to see the correct faith.
The Orthodox Church was not biblical enough? The Bible was written in the Orthodox Church
This is the same nonsense that the papists say.
You have the Bible but then adopt unbiblical practices
@@geordiewishart1683 So everything was just written down in the Bible in the First Century?
There were no oral traditions ?
How many people were able to read and write at the time?
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Editing of the video seems to not give complete context of the conversation between you and the multiple Orthodox Priest. I understand your need to shorten the video.However,I don't mean to be rude ,but the editing of this video is bias, not allowing the Orthodox Priests proper responses to claims you make about Orthodox theologically position. I suggest you cut the two hour footage into multiple parts with just the unedited dialogue between yourself and the Priest. Otherwise, your coming across as dishonest. You could also just invite an Orthodox individual with credentials to debate you unedited. I hope you consider what I am saying as we do believe in the same God.We may disagree on a lot Remember though we truly love protestant christians and willing to die and suffer for Christ alongside you under persecution. - From an Eastern Orthodox Christian,God grant you many years.
videos like that have been made by others, and I've watched a few. Unfortunately, very few want to watch these hour long unedited videos. Even my 2-part version was too long (over 20 minutes!) I'm trying to reach an audience that's not so spiritual or academic, so I have to keep their attention, which is hard after 7 minutes.
@@pastorjasonanswers then break it up into more parts so you can explain better and be more intellectually, and spiritually honest. Cutting out significant portions and not giving full information is just underhanded and keeps people dumb and under your authority instead of ensuring that they come to the true church and properly know God.
1. Papyrus p470 dates to the 2nd century and clearly shows that the first Christians prayed to the Ever-Virgin Mary. The book of Sirach which you conveniently omit is prophesies the Virgin Mary.
2. The first Christians used icons and yet you claim to know better ?!!
(Please visit the catacombs of Rome or the caves of Cappadocia).
3. The Orthodox Church came before the bible and actually put the bible together so you are looking at the wrong source.
You ignore 400 years of history and then falsely interpret a book which the church put together.
4. The way Orthodox worship is the same as the Divine Liturgies of the Apostles (St. Peters and St. Mark) and also St. James the Just (who is NOT a child of Mary). Unchanged worship for 2000 years (with only the addition of the creed and a more condensed version later by St. Chrysostom).
Compare this to Protestantism. People who change the bible to suit their ideology. People who leave books out of the bible because they don’t agree with them. Some random preacher guy who preaches whatever he feels like OR to worship as the Apostles worshipped.
Hmmmmmm let me think ????
Where is Mary prophesized in Sirach?
Well done! Very clear and easy to follow. I am finding myself everyday more drawn to Orthodoxy - and may soon take this holy step into a deeper walk with God...
Ortho: correct
Doxa: praise
The ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, and APOSTOLIC.
The true church.
yes, but "Catholic" is referring to the universal church body of Christ, not the Roman church
@@pastorjasonanswers Christ has ONE body.
pastorjasonanswers most Protestants cannot be included in this definition because they deny the teachings of early Christianity, they follow man made ‘churches’.
@@atanasiogreene8493 that's a very typical (and incorrect) criticism from the Catholics
pastorjasonanswers what denomination do you belong to ,just wondering?
i am roman catholic and this video is not about discussing the differences with well-mannered and logical discussion but only debate and arguing, Orthodox church had live long time and suffer through many many brutal discriminations from the ottoman empire, the russian revolution, the genocide of armenia, the break of yugosalvia, the conflict in serbia, the repression from communist regime which hold most region of where the orthodox lived which is the east bloc more than catholic and yes i am catholic admit it, my orthodox brother is live long enough and had been through a lot but they still preserve, their perseverance is amazing, please if you want to layout or talk about the differences, talk it with manner, the span time of "this" pastor church is noting compare to the orthodox church, quit acting like you are the more superiority.
Try to watch "the ten minute bible hour" with a protestant channel but very objective and non biased. Stop watch this channel and watch the other protestant channel with more well manner and had very good objective inter-religion in Christian community discussion. *btw "you" in my comment meant to the pastor in the video and all people who fully defended him and attacking other
I don't know where you got the idea that this was only debate and arguing. I had the exact opposite reaction. He showed what the Orthodox followers say they believe, and he said what the Protestants believe. Where is the debate and arguing?
Protestants: I am the ultimate authority on what this passage of the Bible means.
Orthodox: We must look to those who learned from the Apostles to understand Holy Scripture.
Hrmmmm, wonder who's right.
Couldn't have said it better lol
But this is wrong. Look at the early church and see that their believes where exactly like protestants. Clement of Alexandria.
Origen of Alexandria, Papias of Hierapolis and others. They wrote letters which are available online to read. They had lots of debates and we can see the way they interpreted the Scripture.
The ortodox doctrine directly opposses the Bible, no matter how you interpret it.
Very...very well said!
@@mariusbijan1336 Interesting that you can't name any of the letters or debates. Probably because it would be easy to demonstrate you're misinterpreting them.
@@about37ninjas instead of being ignorant why don't you study.
If you believe Marry is sinless and that redemption is by faith and works (because this is what the orthodox belief), than you have don't know the Gospel. Either that or you blaspheme God on purpose.
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The Creed in time 4:28 is sadly incorrect.... The Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father only.. that is very very important
why is it very important when the Father and Son are one?
pastorjasonanswers They’re different persons. You used the heretical Roman Catholic version which includes the Filioque. But, Protestants are Catholics without tradition.
@@pastorjasonanswers it originally was not there, but was later added
@@pastorjasonanswers They are equal but different persons they are not one
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“... In order to counter the influence of Arianism among the Visigoths who ruled Spain, the followers of Nicea in Iberia emphasized the divinity of the Son by teaching that He is the origin of the Holy Spirit along with the Father. In 589, the Council of Toledo added the words “and the son” or filioque in Latin to the creed after “And I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and Giver of Life, who proceedeth from the Father.” From Spain, the doctrine of the double procession of the Holy Spirit spread to the court of Charlemagne, which also added the new clause to the Creed. At first, Rome opposed this change. Although he accepted the doctrine of the double Procession of the Holy Spirit from the Father and the Son, Pope Leo III argued that no one had the authority to change the wording of the creed adopted by the Ecumenical Councils. To emphasize his point, he ordered two silver shields hung in St. Peter’s Basilica, one in Latin and one in Greek with the text of the Creed in its original form without the filioque clause. Because the influence of the German kings continued to grow in Rome, the Pope finally added the filioque clause to the Creed during the coronation of Emperor Henry II in 1014. However, the Orthodox East rejected the authority of the Bishop of Rome to unilaterally revise the decisions of the Ecumenical Councils. For this reason the dispute over the wording of the Creed is partially a conflict over whether the Pope or an Ecumenical Council is the ultimate authority in the Church.
The Orthodox Church also objects to the filioque clause for theological reasons. Vladimir Lossky, one of the leading twentieth century Orthodox theologians, considered the filioque the real reason for the division between East and West. Thus, he argued that other theological differences between Orthodoxy and the Roman Catholics and Protestants are really a consequence of the filioque. Although he was not the first to teach the new doctrine, Augustine’s writings provide the theological support used to justify the filioque clause. Augustine developed the doctrine of the double procession of the Holy Spirit from the Father and the Son from his understanding of the Holy Trinity. The Western Father who defined the Holy Spirit as the love and unity between the Father and the Son, taught that the Holy Spirit proceeds from both the Father and the Son because the Son is all that the Father is. Augustine wrote, “For if the Son has of the Father whatever He has, then certainly He has of the Father, that the Holy Spirit proceeds also from Him.” 374
Eastern Orthodox theologians approach the Holy Trinity from a very different point of view than Augustine and the West. The East always dealt with the Three Persons as revealed by Holy Scriptures. Since the only reference in the Holy Scriptures to the procession of the Holy Spirit states that the Holy Spirit “proceeds from the Father,” it would not occur to Eastern theologians that the Holy Spirit also proceeds from the Son. Because Eastern Trinitarian theology comes from the Scriptures, the Orthodox theologians begin with the teaching that God is Father who has no beginning, the Son who is begotten of the Father and the Holy Spirit who proceeds from the Father. Thus, the East stresses the monarchy of the Father who is the “first Cause” or source of both the Son and the Holy Spirit. According to Orthodox theology, the doctrine of the double procession of the Holy Spirit from the Father and the Son confuses the role of the Son with that of the Father and therefore comes dangerously close to the old Sabellian heresy. Augustine’s teaching also risks falling into the Macedonian heresy because if the essence of the Father and the Son are the cause of the Holy Spirit, then the Holy Spirit is not really divine, but is a creature.
Western Trinitarian theology begins with the concept of God as “simple essence,” and then proceeds to define the interpersonal relations of Father, Son and Holy Spirit. However, Eastern theologians argue that by reducing the Holy Trinity to a “simple essence,” that one can understand through human reason, Western Trinitarian theology is much too rationalistic and fails to stress the “incomprehensibility of God.” As a result, John Romanides an influential modern Orthodox theologian, wrote, “The personal God of revelation has become a philosophically impersonal essence.” This disagreement reveals the most fundamental difference between the Eastern and Western theology. The East considers human reason too fallible and limited to comprehend the mysteries of God. However, Western theologians have relied more and more on human reason in their quest to unlock the mysteries of God. Thus, Eastern and Western Christians do not disagree on a few points of doctrine. They have two very different ways of thinking about God. That is why Karen Armstrong, a highly respected non-Orthodox historian, observed that the dispute over the filioque shows “that the Greeks and Latins were evolving quite different conceptions of God..”
Eastern Orthodox theologians also argued that the doctrine of the double procession of the Holy Spirit from the Father and the Son implies that the Holy Spirit is inferior to the Father and the Son. The Western doctrine makes the Holy Spirit less a Person than the Son. It is significant that Western theology and practice has failed to emphasize and has sometimes ignored the role of the Holy Spirit in the life of the Church. One result of this is the artificial division between mysticism or spirituality and theology which has marked Western theology since, at least the thirteenth century, while the East cannot conceive of theology without mysticism or spirituality.
Augustine and Western theologians base their teaching of the procession of the Holy Spirit from the Father and the Son on two principles, the unity of Father and Son in one essence and the Biblical teaching that the Son sends the Holy Spirit. However, Orthodox theologians argue that Augustine and Western theologians have confused the inner being of the Trinity, or the “ontological Trinity,” and the work of the Persons of the Trinity for human salvation, or the “economic Trinity.” Ontological is a philosophical term that can best be defined as the essential definition of something. Thus, the term ontological Trinity refers to God as He has always existed in His inner being or essence. Economic comes from the Greek for the ordering of a house. Orthodox theologians refer to salvation as the economy of God. Therefore, the term economic Trinity refers to the work of the Persons of the Holy Trinity for the salvation of humanity. Therefore, the Holy Spirit eternally proceeds from the Father, according to an ontological understanding of the Trinity, but is sent by the Son for human salvation when the Trinity is understood economically. For this reason, some Eastern Fathers, such as St. John of Damascus, wrote that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father through the Son. However, St. John is very careful to state that the Father is the “cause” of both the Son and the Holy Spirit. Western theologians argue that there is no real difference between the concept that the Holy Spirit is sent by the Son and the idea that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Son. They also argue that “from the Son,” means basically the same thing as “through the Son.” Thus, St. Maximus the Confessor argued that it is possible to understand the doctrine of the double procession of the Holy Spirit in an Orthodox sense. 383”-Historian & Archpriest John W. Morris
Pastor Jason should check his history.
He says that if the Orthodox church was judged biblical enough the Protestants would have just joined the Orthodox church.
Actually, the Protestants did request to join the Orthodox church. They sent 3 delegations to the Orthodox church. They were denied.
It was not the Protestants who judged the Orthodox not biblical enough to join. It was the Orthodox church who judged the Protestants not biblical enough to accept them.
The Protestant Pastor says, “we only pray to Jesus”. Right after the Orthodox Priest literally and very clearly said that they don’t either. Why is the Protestant trying to ignore that and act like the Priest said Orthodox do…
0:20 Luther may have not known of the Orthodox church, it wasn’t as wide spread, they did not invade countries like the catholics so perishes in Germany were not established until 1700’s so that could be why he didn’t go to Eastern Orthodox.
Martin Luther was a monk beaten by his lust, he did what he did, only as a cover to escape the monastery and gets married. If he was a true reformer, he should have stayed abstinent like Paul, focusing only on his new reformed church.
Imagine a deaf person walking into an Orthodox or Catholic Church. They will know that it’s about Jesus because they can see that by the pictures and icons.
But if that deaf person walked into a Protestant Church, they will think they are at Justin Bieber’s concert or something. They won’t know because there’s nothing to show that it’s about Jesus.
The only way they would know is if it were a blind person and not someone deaf.
You Orthodox Christian have been confuse about your faith and added apocryphal ,because you are in wrong track of doctrine teaching ,you did not read the bible any way and you did not willing to go to the church in a week ,you want to go to the church at a year of last , you didn't want to pay of tithes to the church ,because you are a greedy person who loves the money ,you peoples are like to leave freely doing the sin and you want god according to your fulfillment of desire ,your prayer life is just stuff,and want to leave in heaven and hell,if you need desire of earth is great then your sprit led into hell ,change your mind confess your sin by you and dont go back to sin.and the main thing is drive away from the treditions created by apostolic but follow the holy sprit guidline .and do not pray to saint but pray to jesus directly .and drive out the word of saint couse there is world no one has perfect or holy ,but there was a person named jesus he makes holy to everyone .jesus is hearing our prayer directly and giving the answer that yes ,no, wait .
don't put the faith in lie ,but the truth that is word of god and he is jesus .
Salvation is real ,it make joy and peace to you directly ,that is the real experance of Christianity.
don't worship the matarial icon ,holy water,paintings .couse that work is in hindu religion mythology worship....
@@SujitKuRaita Imagine telling the writer of a book they didn't read the book they put together. The stories of the Bible were witnessed by our fathers, they were written by our fathers, and they were preserved by our fathers and continue to be preserved by us. Do not speak of something you don't understand.
James (brother of Jesus) was Joseph's son by Joseph's first wife, not by Mary.
Exactly! Orthodox Christians believe that Mary didn't have other children. She didn't have any other sons, that's why while on the cross Jesus made John her son so that he would take care of her. Isn't that obvious?
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Another objection to the idea of Mary's perpetual virginity is that the Scriptures use the word "until" or "till" in Matthew 1:25: ". . . and [Joseph] did not know her till she had brought forth her firstborn Son." Whereas in English the word "until" necessarily indicates change after the fact, in the ancient languages of the Bible this is simply not the case. For instance, if we read Deuteronomy 34:6, 2 Samuel 6:23, Psalm 72:7 and 110:1 (as interpreted by Jesus in Matthew 22:42-46), Matthew 11:23 and 28:20, Romans 8:22, and 1 Timothy 4:13, to reference just a few examples, we will see that in none of these passages does the word "until" indicate a necessary change. If it did, then apparently among other things we would be meant to understand that Jesus will at some point stop sitting at the right hand of the Father, and that on some unhappy date in the future He intends to abandon the Church! The use of "until" in Matthew 1:25, then, is purely to indicate that Christ was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary, not conceived by Joseph and Mary, since they did not "know" each other "until" the birth. In this context "until" is really synonymous with "before." If on the contrary it were meant in its full contemporary English sense. That is, if it really meant that Joseph and Mary's chaste relationship changed after the birth then the stylistics present another big problem: the reader would have to believe that Matthew was actually inviting contemplation of the couple's later sexual activity. This is doubtful to say the least.
Orthodox is the way respectful and we followed still like old just like Jesus time protestant they scream like they have devils
Pretty judgmental and prideful don’t you think?
Let’s talk
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Brother Jasón. You are misinformed on the topic of praying of Mary and the saints.
Praying to Mary and praying to the saints is all over the Bible. Praying to Mary is biblically right to do. We can see this in the wedding of Cana. When the people saw that they ran out of wine, they told Mary to convince Jesus to help them. Mary told Jesus to help them and he obeyed. Mary is not an obstacle towards Jesus. She literally said “do as he commands”.
We can see that praying to the saints is totally biblical. In revelations 5 8, it says “when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty four elders fell before the lamb, each holding a harp and GOLDEN BOWLS FULL OF INCENSE, WHICH ARE THE PRAYERS OF THE SAINTS.”. Who are the twenty four elder? The twenty four elders represent all the people who died and live saintly lives, from the old and new testaments.What are they bringing? They are bringing the prayers of the people who are still on earth struggling to become saints.
Praying to Mary and the saints is biblically correct to do. Let us ponder this and may the Holy Spirit illuminate us and fill us with his truth.
good points. I still disagree. I wish the priests had given your response for the video. it's the best I've heard so far. I love how you used the Bible
pastorjasonanswers,
I cordially invite you to search the reasons why Catholics believe in some topics, like Mary, Confession and the holy Eucharist. I’m not telling you to convert to Catholicism, but I’m telling you that if you think that this is wrong, try to prove these topics biblically. I too came from a family that didn’t like the Catholic Church and thought it would be biblically Incorrect. I also tried too prove the catholic teaching to be incorrect, but whenever I read the Bible, there was an abundant bible verses that doesn’t contradict the Catholic Church, but supports it. I was scared because I was raised with he concept that the Catholic Church is totally incorrect. I advise you to do what I did, and try to prove that the Catholic Church and it’s doctrines are wrong, biblically. May he Holy Spirit iluminate you and fill your heart with joy and blessings. AMEN.
@@freddyenriquez4566 or better, the orthodox church.
@@pastorjasonanswers "good points. I still disagree" ...just think about how that comes across.
@Bornaking Oh I know. I stopped watching the video when he started shouting down the Orthodox priest. Proverbs 9:9 always applies.
Orthodox Church is the true!!Love from Romania!!
i think we pray to the saints because the hold positions among the angels , they're not just sleeping they're active.
i think orthodoxy is the right way, their prophecy is fulfilling
The Septuagint? Yes it was the original oold testament. Martin lither even wanted to remove the book of James from the NT
so it's a good thing that the true gospel isn't dependent on one man like Martin Luther, who was wrong at times, but the Bible is never wrong
pastorjasonanswers then why did you reference Luther not joining the Orthodox because it was not biblical enough? Luther lived no where near Orthodox Churches
@Bornaking For Protestants, we derive our OT translations from the original Hebrew and Aramaic (Daniel), and if you study history, our movement was about going back to original Christianity when the canon was completed, before Catholic theology went astray over time, especially in the Middle Ages. And we don't really care about Martin Luther that much, just like we don't really care about any of the Saints. He's not the first, or the only one who caught on to the Catholic errors, which the Orthodox knew about for centuries.
@@pastorjasonanswers trying to go back to when scripture was canonized and then neglecting the council's that brought about that cannon and the church and traditions that brought it in to being. If the orthodox is not right why are you trying to use our book?.
@@pastorjasonanswers How about asking the Syrian Orthodox church what is included in their Bible? They are the Aramaic speakers. Trust me it won't be what you have.
Holy Mary was and stayed virgin even after giving birth to Christ. Saint Jacob the Adelfotheos was child only from Josef from another marriage.
I find this very interesting to watch. I'm a muslim from a half Orthodox and half Catholic family with a protestant girlfriend.
My gf is Muslim.
@Aliens r real how so?
I saw this video a long while ago. I have just been baptized Orthodox this Pascha! Glory to God for His Grace!☦️
it's not about knowing history, but it's about knowing Jesus Himself through Holly spirit
I sooooooooooooooo dislike modern church "worship" and how services are done, look, and SOUND like a ROCK CONCERT.
Then there are the classes- where people always say "I think this verse means ................... ".
Who has the authority to tell others they are wrong?
"Scripture Alone" results in the question: WHO has the correct understanding? Is it the AoG, Baptist ( American, Free-Will, General, Hard-shell, KJV Only, Reformed, Southern, and others), "Bible" churches, Cathars, Catholics, Church of Christ, Church of England, Disc. of Christ, Evangelicals, "Evangelicals", Gnostics, JWs, Lutheran, Messianics, "Messianics", conservative v.s. liberal Methodists, Moravians, Mormons ( LDS, RLDS, P-LDS, Temple Lot, FLDS, Cutlerites), Nazarenians, Nestorians, extreme v.s. normal Pentecostal, conservative v.s. liberal Presbyterian, Quakers, "Reformed", Salvation Army, Waldensians, or some other church?
Some Pentecostal "preachers" claim that God spoke to THEM. They will answer to GOD for their LIES!!!!!!!
Jewish people have NEVER prayed to Abraham, Sarah, Moses, or David, so why do people think it is okay to pray to N.T. saints?
I'm a protestant since birth but I agree more with what the orthodox priest said
You should convert, orthodoxy is the fullness of Christ
@@ThomasG_Nikolaj i don’t think it would necessarily be called conversion ..😭. they still would be Christian they just would go from one sect to another
Also this statues and the paintings in the earliest churches word churches where people were mainly illiterate so they could follow along by what was on the walls. It really is no longer necessary except as a good reminder.
You say the Orthodox Bible has more than the classic 66 books. There is nothing "classic"about that. Even Protestants included the Deuterocanon in their Bible for hundreds of years. The 66 book Bible is modern.
If I'm going to convert from protestant to apostolic church ,it is Orthodox , not CATHOLIC
Hey, I saw you on Jubilee, Pastor Jason! I’ve been forgetting to check out your channel... 🤭 however, I have been watching a lot of The Beat by Allen Parr (I highly recommend his channel if you haven’t checked it out 🙂).
Why only Greeks? You should have went to Russian or American church as well.
I also interviewed from Russian Orthodox, but the audio didn't record (dead mic). but similar answers. I don't know of any American Orthodox
@@pastorjasonanswers It is called OCA, Orthodox Church in America
There is also Antiochian orthodox, Serbian, Ukrainian, Syrian, and few others in America as well.
The Ethiopian Bible is the oldest and most complete bible on earth. Written in Ge'ez an ancient dead language of Ethiopia it's nearly 800 years older than the King James Version and contains over 100 books compared to 66 of the Protestant Bible.
for a while now, nobody cares about the King James Version. We've been translating from the original Greek texts of the 1st century, which are even older and more accurate than the Ethiopian bible
@@pastorjasonanswers wait what even older and accurate😂😂😂 just study about ethiopia orthodox Tewahedo then you will reply my answer
There are 81 books in Ethiopian Orthodox Bible
66 books
I didn't say Pentecostal.
Really??
@@zachoo5135 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀 really.
I would like to see a debate between him and Jay dyer
Protestant: We believe the Bible has the only divine authority.
Me: Have you read it though?
Because if you did, surely you must know that Jesus told His disciples to go like lambs amongst wolves, and make disciples of all the nations, and He gave them Holy Grace, or Holy Spirit or however you say it in english, POWER and authority in other words. And so they did, and the christian church was established. There were some diferences that were quickly resolved by vote, in the ecumenical councils, and centuries later one of many bishops, started calling himself THE father, and infallible, because (his argument, rejected by all the others) he was in Rome, and so was Peter who Jesus named so because he would build His church on him....CENTURIES earlyer. And then some catholics had enough of the vatican corruption and instead of going back to the orthodox they adopted all heresies that were purged centuries BEFORE the schism, and started bible thumping with complete disregard to what the Bible actually says. You claiming that the holy fathers did not have power and authority from Jesus , is rejecting the Bible, and denying the miracles that the saints performed, the Holy Spirit working through them, basically everything that hapened after Jesus. Youre saying in other words, that HIS DISCIPLES were wrong from the start, and that the Bible is lying. You cannot be protestant and right, because your only authority is the Bible and the Bible clearly says that the disciples had authority and Holy Spirit, and they founded the church, that remained unchanged to this day, except for the catholics, and the many many many protestant and neo protestant denominations that keep splintering from the schism. The orthodox remains unchanged to this day, while catholics and protestants are constantly one-uping each other in heresy and corruption, to the point where many of you condone homosexual marriage and claim its ok religiously.
@pastorjasonanswers "Why didn't Martin Luther leave the Catholic church and join the Orthodox Church?"
Actually, history provides the answer to this and it's not what you claim. The simple answer is geography. Luther was in the west. The Protestant reformers actually did assume the Eastern church was correct because it had church tradition but without some of the contaminating factors of the western/Roman church. The reformers even wrote a letter attempting to unite with the Eastern church. But the Protestants grew too different from the true church because all doctrines became up to their individual interpretation, believing whatever was right in their own eyes. Even the very early reformers like Luther, Zwingli, and Calvin could not agree what the Bible teaches. Or even what books belong in the Bible.
I believe you had good intentions making this video, trying to push toward Truth. But that Truth *is* found in Orthodox Christianity. It always has been.
Why are Christians so divided 😔😔
Greek clergy will always exaggerate the role of the Ecumenical Patriarch. His role under the Ottoman Empire, as Rûm Milet Başı, ‘Roman (Orthodox Christian) ethnarch) gave him administrative power over all Balkan and Romanian churches. When the Ottoman Empire lost hold he lost control of them.
Orthodox do not believe Mary ascended into heaven. The assumption of the Virgin is a western belief. We acknowledge the dormition of the thetokos
Protestanism is the lately coming denomination of Christianity which is full of erroneous teachings. Their Biblical focus is almost exclusively on the new testament and most of the time don't know if some words hold another big secret behind. They simply use direct meanings. For instance, Jesus calls his disciples " My brothers" to indicate that he is an incarnate born and has become a perfect human. But some protestants think that those disciples are children of the Virgin Mary born from Joseph or someone else; like what we heard from the man in this video. Which is a big insult! May God forgive them! They neither have respect for Christ Jesus nor for the Theotokos Virgin Mary. They have no mind to think that no one can enter the womb that the Son of God Christ Jesus has entered. They don't have the knowledge of the bible to correlate what was said in prophecy to the eternal virginity of Mary "This gate is to remain shut. It must not be opened; no one may enter through it. It is to remain shut because the LORD, the God of Israel, has entered through it." Ezekiel 44:2
From an Ethiopian Orthodox
Because Martin Luther wanted to create his own religion based on his understanding. This is the reason why you have so many different Christian sects.
Orthodoxy is the one and true faith! Glory to God ❤❤❤
I’m still on the fence about certain things like prayer to the saints. The scriptures that come to mind are John 14:6 “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” And 1 Timothy 2:5 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.”
That’s exactly why catholic/ orthodox is wrong theology. They bend scripture in order to please there church traditions
@@jayrocky9067 that being said, there are times I often feel that the Protestant practice is highly reductive. Where Catholicism and Orthodoxy have a reverence that is seen in many of their ancient practices, Protestantism bends to the whims of modernity and mundanity so frequently that it causes people’s perceptions of God and his kingdom to be lessened. The protestant church preaches in malls and shopping centers, playing generic music that has no sense of presence. Catholic and Orthodox churches are built with care and give glory to God, and the worship is meant to resemble an angelic choir.
I’m torn because I feel that orthodoxy is more authentic, but Protestantism is a reformation that more closely follows the scripture. I suppose that there is no church that is truly perfect.
@@rolotomassi8767 the simple answer / truth is they have gone away from what God / Jesus Christ our Lord has clearly taught. To suit and benefit there own personal agenda. All you or anyone else has to do is research it for yourselves. Logically without letting your personal feelings or how you were raised cloud your reason and judgment. No man on this earth can forgive sins… God clearly says do not make any engraved images of Him. The Mary prayer is no where in scripture.. God clearly says we cannot earn our way into heaven.. never ever have I ever heard any catholic priest preach Repentance.. The pope himself is trying to create a one world religion as we speak.. All these things I have just pointed out to you are facts. I will keep you in my prayers brother.. This life is about following Jesus.. Gods word as the ultimate authority and truth.
@@jayrocky9067 Yes. The issues with the Vatican are many. That is why I didn’t even bother considering Catholicism given what their leadership is doing. And yes, you’re right about a lot of practices not being scriptural. I think I need to keep doing more research.
Any assistance the saints give you is God's power working through them, not their own power
orthodox is right and correct
Dear late me advice something, if you really want to know about orthodox go to Ethiopia you will find the answer
Ah the ones with the biggest cannon of scripture. And potentially have the ark of the covenant.
@@jacobsnelson1 they also have the true cross.
The Prophet Ezekiel in the 44th chapter speaks about the temple and its gates:
And He brought me back to the outer gate of the sanctuary, facing east, and it was shut. And the Lord said to me, "These gates will be shut, they will not be opened, and no man will enter by them, for the LORD, the God of Israel, has entered by them, and they will be shut" (Ezek. 44: 1-2).
It is clear that these are educational words, and those who do not want them will not accept them. But the faith of the Church has always been that Mary remains a Virgin at Christmas. As for the brothers of Jesus, these are Joseph's children from his first marriage. That is, they are not half-brothers and not half-brothers of Jesus. He simply did not have any, because the Lord was not Joseph's son in the carnal sense. Why is this so significant? Why is it important to believe that Mary accepted Christ virginally and remained a Virgin? We are used to it. But what would have happened if things had been different? These are the most insidious questions that the human mind asks and which forced the holy fathers to think dogmatically and resolutely express their faith.
Even the early Church fathers claimed that Mary always remained a Virgin. Then the expression "Ever-virgin" arose. Not just παρεενος;, i.e. "Virgin" in Greek, namely αιπαρθενος;, i.e. "Always Virgin", "Ever-virgin".
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If there is no cross. If your worship is entertainment, dance if think about who you believe in God or devil ????????? Who hates the cross ??? Who hates sacrifice ???? Who makes you feel comfortable on earth so that you will not do any good deed .. dance , it's okay God forgive you or convince earthly dance with God's how can that be the same ... or do anything you want it feels nice doesn't it ??? But who hates the cross ?? Think about it
Being a muslim (suni) i feel very weird being here
Answer as to why Luther didn't join the Orthodoxy: He wasn't aware of its tenets. Story goes that Orthodox messengers died on their way to meet Luther
EU protestans of US is a big differents.
Where i go, its not a show like in the us.
We dont are like them. Whe are more humble, the pastor is in all black like the orthodox.
America is making its own protestans, like they do in all things.
Pastor Jason, with all due respect, you are assessing Eastern Orthodoxy from your Protestant paradigm so you really cannot have an accurate understanding of Orthodox doctrines. You’re trying to fit a round peg into a square hole and that will never do.
This is also the reason why the Protestant reformers did not join the Orthodox Church. Because Luther and the other reformers came from the Roman Catholic framework, their doctrines and theology were in terms of Western Christianity, which by the 1500’s were far removed from that of Eastern Orthodox teachings. I suggest you read Timothy Ware’s “The Orthodox Church” in order to understand Orthodoxy from an Orthodox perspective. As long as you look at Orthodoxy through your Protestant lens, you will get it wrong every time.
i need to look further into this. you're right that simply interviewing 5 orthodox priests is not good enough
Great video. Thank you!
Protestant churches like a conference hall to marketing any products and viewers are clients...
I was raised protestant in a ruby red town.
I didn’t learn about the Orthodox Church until college.
I used to think Orthodoxy was Catholicism in Eastern Europe since they all worshipped in cathedrals and they have priests.
The Ethiopian Bible is the oldest and most complete bible on earth. Written in Ge'ez an ancient dead language of Ethiopia it's nearly 800 years older than the King James Version and contains over 100 books compared to 66 of the Protestant Bible.
I want to make this clear since I studied church history.
Lutherans wanted to join the Eastern orthodox church, but died before he could. The Ottomans was the only thing stopping him
What about Timothy 2:5? One mediator between God and man. The man Christ Jesus. Why the need for intercession of saints?
Russian Bot Yeah that’s a big road block for me too. But still I’m drawn to the orthodox faith
14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe-and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
-James 2:14-26
Jesus taught us a tradition, to largely avoid tradition.
Like Mormons or Jehovahs Witnesses?
Jesusandbible Wot? He taught us tradition to avoid tradition? There’s a world of difference between traditions handed down from God and those from men. Protestants rely entirely on manmade tradition.
i am writing a paper about this and this was super helpful
many things were inaccurate concerning the Orthodox. I would not use this as reference
The eastern orthodox church was not allowed in the west in 1512. Martin Luthet knew almost nothing about the EO and there was no way for him to be a part of it.
Point 1- those books were in the Bible for 1500 years, the protestants took them out.
Point 2- completely correct. When Jesus ascended he did not pass his authority to a compilation of books that wasn't written yet.
Pont 4- Original Sin is the result of Augistine reading the corrupted Vulgate translation of romans. If he has been using a decent translation, he'd have known that it says, "thru it all die," and not "thru Adam all die". It would've totally stopped that heresy of total depravity as well.
This has been fun. Look forward to part 2.
Is the diagram at 5:11 correct? Isn't there a creed that states that God the Father and God the Son are co equal and co eternal?
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Is anyone who read this, is there something miracle that brings my presence here.
any body who can answer me that why should i go to mary, Saints.... to pray for Jesus, while i can ask (pray) for Jesus Christ directly who's the Only Mediator between Man and God!!
@Dmitry Terek "Thinking that because you speak to Christ directly, you're closer to God and can ask for more power over this world" I did not read that in Dagi A's post.
His question is why pray to the Mother of God to pray for him when he can pray directly to our Lord God Jesus Christ. It's a fair question and I think to some extent you gave a fair answer. Most all of us ask someone to pray for us. Of course that should not be limited to those here on earth. The body of Christ consists of us here on earth as well as the Saints in heaven. With that said Dagi is correct (Scriptural speaking) that Jesus Christ is the only mediator between us and God. I realize Orthodox do not worship the Theotokos or the Saints but merely venerate and pray to them. Officially at least. I do question some of the official prayers that do read "Theotokos save us" which would seem like blasphemy to an outsider. My understanding is that phrase in the book of prayer is suggesting the Mother of God pray for us not an insinuation that the Theotokos is our salvation which would again be blasphemy. I am uncertain as to why it was not written that way. To pray to the saints or the mother of God as our intercessor or mediator between us and the Godhead would be in contradiction to our faith in Christ Jesus. To ask the Mother of God to pray for us and intercede to her Son as opposed to praying directly to Christ Jesus would obviously be missing 'the mark'. I do realize that is not officially what Orthodox do though there are some who seem to put the cart before the horse.
Forgive me a sinner.
Orthodox is more Right.
Thank you President Putin.
My Hero.
Hello my name is Fr. John, I am an Orthodox Deacon with the old calendar.
Many of the Points that you make in this Video are complete fabrications for example:
A Patriarch presides over a council but his vote does not count more than any other bishop.
Apostolic Canon XXXIV.
The bishops of every nation must acknowledge him who is first among them and account him as their head, and do nothing of consequence without his consent; but each may do those things only which concern his own parish, and the country places which belong to it. But neither let him (who is the first) do anything without the consent of all; for so there will be unanimity, and God will be glorified through the Lord in the Holy Spirit.
why would I make things up? I interviewed 6 Orthodox priests, although not all answered questions about the Patriarch. You're saying the Californian priests were wrong?
@@pastorjasonanswers The commenter is straight up a Father quoting you a Canon of Orthodox faith. He's not saying the priests are wrong he's saying you misunderstood something that he is an authority on. And you're like "I have the authority on this".(Which is a perfect example of Orthodox-protestant relationship).
Biblical enough, he says. Who compiled the Bible?
The papists claim they did
@@geordiewishart1683
The papist claim a lot of things. Doesn't mean they're correct.
The bible was compiled from the various books and letters used to teach the Christian faith. Sadly, many texts were heretical, and didn't align with what Christ had taught the Disciples. So, the Bishops got together and whittled things down to the books and letters that are currently in use. They used the teachings of Christ to make the decisions as to what they used.
Christianity cannot be Sola Scriptura if those scriptures didn't exist before the Church. All of Paul's letters carry one phrase. "Remember the things I have taught you." Paul was teaching what Christ had taught.
Without the Apocryphal books of 1st & 2nd Maccabees (which was in the KJV until the mid-1800s) one cannot understand the context of Matthew 24.
The graph at 12'57'' God then Christ the the apostles Christ him self is God so the tree starting from God then Christ doesn't make a right statement keep in mind
HA!? What do you mean Catholics believe Mary have authority? I don’t seem to understand. Catholics and Orthodox alike believe that Mary is part of Communion of Saints (holy people already in heaven) who pray for us. Catholics (not to be misrepresented) believe in “Tripod of Faith”: (1) Word of God, (2) Oral Traditions, (3) Magisterium (Church)
Orthodox don't believe that Mary has the power to forgive sins. Catholics do. that's one part of authority
pastorjasonanswers I challenge you Pastor Jayson; quote one passage from the official doctrine of the Catholic Church. JUST PRODUCE ONE within the Catechism of the Catholic Church that says that we believe that Mary has the power to forgive sins and I will immediately convert to your Church.
VENI CREATOR SPIRITUS.
Also please don’t call her just “Mary”, she is the Ark of the New Covenant. She is the Mother of Jesus Christ, our Lord. She is to be called “Blessed”. All nations will call her Blessed.
Respectfully,
The authority within the Catholic Church emanates from Jesus Christ through Peter alone. It is to him where all the flocks have been entrusted. There are truths that the Father revealed to Peter.
I plea to you that you follow the footsteps of the Apostles and listen to their own disciples.
St. John the Beloved is the Apostle of Our Lord
St. Ignacius of Antioch (where we are first called Christians) is the Apostle of St. John the Beloved
Here is what he can tell you about Our Lord’s Church:
See that you all follow the bishop, even as Jesus Christ does the Father, and the presbytery as you would the apostles; and reverence the deacons, as being the institution of God. Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the bishop. Let that be deemed a proper Eucharist, which is administered either by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it.
Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude of the people also be; even as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church. -Letter to the Smyrnaeans, Ch 8
You see we don’t believe in Bible alone because it ISN’T the pillar and foundation of the truth; the Church is.
We uphold the letters of the Apostles, but we also uphold the Oral Traditions that is not written, but passed by their successors overtime.
This is our faith my Sibling in Christ. Please consult our pastors or our Catechism if you want to represent us in a fair discussion.
Again this is the tripod of our Christian Catholic Faith:
1) Sacred Scriptures (with Deuterocanonicals). Oldest complete versions of which is the Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus which respectively has been taken care of Catholic and Orthodox Churches)
2) Oral Traditions (The unwritten transmitted instructions of the Apostles, and customs of the historical Church of Our Lord)
3) Magesterium (Teaching Authority of the Church that have been passed down from Apostles of whom the Primacy of Office belongs to St. Peter, the 1st Pope or Bishop of Rome)
I bless you sevenfold and your congregation too. “May they be one, as the Father and I are one”.
"We dont believe in ALLAH"
*meanwhile Jews can enter a Mosque but are forbidden from entering a Church* 🤣😂
Thanks I'm a Chatolic then I thought iwant to became protestant but the conflict there's so many protestant and now iremember that the church is more older than Newtestament. Thank
You Orthodox Christian have been confuse about your faith and added apocryphal ,because you are in wrong track of doctrine teaching ,you did not read the bible any way and you did not willing to go to the church in a week ,you want to go to the church at a year of last , you didn't want to pay of tithes to the church ,because you are a greedy person who loves the money ,you peoples are like to leave freely doing the sin and you want god according to your fulfillment of desire ,your prayer life is just stuff,and want to leave in heaven and hell,if you need desire of earth is great then your sprit led into hell ,change your mind confess your sin by you and dont go back to sin.and the main thing is drive away from the treditions created by apostolic but follow the holy sprit guidline .and do not pray to saint but pray to jesus directly .and drive out the word of saint couse there is world no one has perfect or holy ,but there was a person named jesus he makes holy to everyone .jesus is hearing our prayer directly and giving the answer that yes ,no, wait .
don't put the faith in lie ,but the truth that is word of god and he is jesus .
Salvation is real ,it make joy and peace to you directly ,that is the real experance of Christianity.
don't worship the matarial icon ,holy water,paintings .couse that work is in hindu religion mythology worship..
4:00 1930's Underwood Portable. Nice.
Food for thought the catholics put all the scripture together and made the new testament now you got all these newbies trying to show the owners how they can change the word of God to there liking they think there more than God changing what has been for over 2000 years.
What is the name of that church at 10:47 ?? My jaw is wide open at how beautiful it is. I am Protestant. And I would love to attend a mass here...
Divine Liturgy* 😬 but no seriously, very beautiful.
You can't be much of a Protestant if you are talking about mass.....
Mt 1:25 doesn't say anything about Mary laying with Joseph. That is a wild interpretation.
Bible is The Word of God
Orthodox the true way means jesus
'Ortho' means straight or upright, not correct. 'Doxa' is not praise, rather 'belief'.
How the bible was looked at and Interpreted over the centuries. In the eyes of the orthodox as well as catholic church there is no room for misinterpretation within the church By which they mean the leadership of the church. They place More authority to the interpretations of men Than they give to scripture itself. Sadly, this is similar to how was in the first century Where the people were bound to Rabbinical interpretations and missed The true meaning of God's word.
Comment Number Three.
The Saints.
As we know Jesus was all the time with his apostols and the apostols could interact with him.
Jesus was never alone. He was always surrounded by his beloved apostols.
Icons.
A picture is a thousand words. For example, a picture of my family.
By the same way pictures declare some of the beloved figures of Christianity.
Persons have value in Eastern Orthodox Christianity.
Im starting to learn all denominations have things that are correct and incorrect. If i had to pick a side its a mix between non-denominational/orthodox. However a denomination was never mention in the bible. It says to be the church and to follow Messiahs teaching, part of the body of chirst, the messianic community and that one can only live on the word of God, meaning the bible is Gods authorative word. I agree with protestants on that the bible is Gods full athority, i just wish they would have kept all the books in the cannon.