The Story of Superman
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 เม.ย. 2020
- In this video I explain and explore the "Story of Superman" Superman and every instance where it may have been used from the Silverage up until the modern day. The Story of Superman is a power that Superman rarely employees, it is an ability that allows Superman to adapt beyond his normal capabilities.
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Hope you all enjoyed the video, I'm going to say the same thing that I said on my Presence video. Instead of nitpicking all the little things you disagree with try to look at the argument holistically (that means look at the entire argument together not just one part of it you have a problem with). You might not find every instance compelling on it's own (and I wouldn't expect anyone to) but I do think it's a little ridiculous to reject it whole sale as this ability is clearly something that exists within DC.
Please scale Castlevania composite Dracula
"This isn't an illusion", said the Illusion.
Do a video on the mask . Or union from image
Great video man
Now you have me thinking! Speaking of the Narrative (magic) of the story of Superman, I'm noticing something similar taking place from another one of my favorite characters; The Batman Who Laughs. He seems to be the embodiment of archetype of unbridled Meta Chaos, something in the vein of Nyarlahotep from Lovecraftian lore. I wouldn't mind seeing your analysis on this character dow road. I will be watching nonetheless.
Frieza: "How in the space hells are you still alive?"
Superman: "I'm very stubborn"
Superman would speed blitz frieza before he even reacts
Superman would destroy Zeno and the Angels
Superman would destroy Zeno and the Angels
Which version
I'm surprised that you put Frieza of all people 👍
Story of Superman>The presence
Darahh O'kane The Story of Superman ~ The Overvoid >>>>>>>>> The Presence lol. The Story of Superman comes from a place beyond the overvoid not just the ideas of humans like The Presence.
Jesus Christ its that powerful holly shit
@Aries leviathan >milkman superman >retcon>overvoid >presence>lucifer and michael>cosmic armor superman and mandrakk
@Aries explain
@Aries lucifer has better feats than mandrakk but I agree milkman and story of Superman > Retconn > overvoid
This video should be named Supermans second most powerful ability because his most powerful ability is actually spinning.
He does pull some wild shenanigans by spinning I will say that.
WebCamParrot Superman spinning feats vid soon?
Well.. it's a good trick
His punch can give his spinning a run for its money nut what if superman spinned amd punched at the same time
@@WebCamParrot make a spinning video
Oh boy, The Story of Superman is actually beautiful and makes a lot of sense, I began watching this video hating the plot armor and ended loving the story of superman
that's because alot of ppl have either forgotten or don't know who the character is..... ppl today just see him as one big op tool writers use to wrap shit up story wise, which has never been the case.... I dn't agree w/everything this ch says but he does a dame good job explaining who/what this character really is.
The most recent example of this I could think about is Justice League Dark Apocalypse War, the part where Superman repels Trigon from his body, changing him back to normal and starts kicking the crap out of Darkseid.
@Rocky Croods m8 its canon in its own universe you dont have to call it shit btw ik its your opinion but come on man dont be a asshole
yeah when he watched lois lane died while supes was possesed.
A better example in that same movie is when Superman returns to Earth and raven is about to kill herself and Superman stops her and hugs her, filling her with hope. Superman had just been tortured, beaten, most of his Justice league team members dead and it's mostly his fault, yet he never loses hope. He is still a beacon, and eventually they manage to defeat Darkseid
@@artu165 that movie is dogshit and a total middle finger to raven's character they butchered ruined nerfed and bastradized her and made her useless. I call it bullshit that a pipe could kill her whoever made that movie made sure to take a whole dumb on raven in this movie and that's what they did successfully. Raven has wolverine levels of pain tolerance and healing factor and durability probably even higher than logan and stamina worth months she healed and took the curse of a child who was cursed by trigon himself and took into her self she once healed from 4th degree burns and survived burns stabs and curses she even resisted hellfirr she's no glass canon in comics she is probably stronger and more durable than logan due to her soulself and demonic physiology but some dipshits decided to reduce her into a useless weakling... they literally made her sakura of that film and she's anything but THAT in the comics which is an absurd claim yet still true which sucks cause she's a good character and well developed and fleshed out character arc in the comics and definitely not a pushover like they they portrayed her.
This video paid more respect to the character than Bendis and the clowns behind Future state.
You’ll notice even in Sandman when Morpheus travelled to hell and played the oldest game against the demon to get his crown back the thing that ended the game and defeated “Antilife the end of all things, even gods and universes” was Hope. Which is also Superman’s symbol. And it’s no coincidence as he also defeated Antilife, because he is the embodiment of the concept.
And in DC there is no higher concept.
? Do you have like link or something I can see?
@@Zynirel what link??
@@Zynirel The same thing is there in the Sandman tv series as well. Only difference is that Morpheus is battling Lucifer instead of some random demon.
Just look up Morpheus vs Lucifer and you should find plenty of videos
Hope is so powerful.. all religion is based on hope. We have wars with the HOPE that our society will get better. We go through hard times with the HOPE we will come out a better person. Everything humanity does has a deep deep realization for HOPE. Which is why Superman can never truly die cause he is the HOPE of comics DC and Marvel.
“The story of Lois and Clark” The story of Superman” The power of Smallville” all of these are names that I have heard to describe this power.
The Flaw
It's funny. I really didn't care for superman for years. I liked him when I was a kid, but not as a teen or young man. Now, however, I like him for reasons completely separate from other characters. I like the concept he represents. Solid video.
LETS GOOOO. Man my day gets better everytime you upload. I'm telling you
This is what I like to call well deserved “plot armor”
I know this gonna be great before even watching 👍
Hope you enjoy it!
Oh man finally the term “plot armor” is being called out. I always found it to be such a cop-out.
@@75_86 hey 75
@@75_86 IT IS PLOT ARMOR.
HOW DID SUPERMAN EARN PLOT ARMOR?
Death: KILL EVERYTHING!!!!
Superman: huh? Nah!!!!! I'm WAYYY too stubborn
Dragonballs: Do I look Like a Joke to You???
@@supamilkchanbitches3730 superman: yes
@@supamilkchanbitches3730 YES
@@supamilkchanbitches3730 if goku meet dc death or anyother DBZ character thay would die easy
@@supamilkchanbitches3730 Superman solos Dragon Ball with a blindfold and both hands tied behind his back.
So story of superman > the presence
Yup
Well superman just an idea form of hope even real life people inspired by the ideals of Superman.
Yes
Superman might be favored by the Presence. Even Dr Manhattan couldn't destroy Superman
It's because Presence, Overvoid, Lucifer, Michael loves Superman. That's why he always win on a fight
Man, I have to say - your analysis videos are on another level. I haven’t seen anyone else nearly as thorough.
Best comic book channel on TH-cam
One Punch Man fans: Saitama is unbeatable, it's part of his story!
DC fans:
These videos are always the best thing to see on my feed. So enjoyable to listen to and well made
Excellent analysis!!!! Very well put together!!!!!
Glad you liked it!
Take away that embodiment of American Truth and Justice and just leave Truth and Justice because our systems crooked as well.
one of the greatest videos I've ever seen on youtube!!!
Superman is the embodiment of hope in DCU, And his stories are the foundation of DC. That is really interesting concept and power
This is why Superman is greatest superhero imo he isn’t someone relatable nor should he be. He represents the best of humanity and we should all aspire to be like him. That’s his purpose and that’s what I think a lot of people are missing.
VoiceOfSense and I couldn’t agree with you anymore thanks for sharing that insight I haven’t watched the movie yet but I definitely will
Would get called a mary sue if he's a female
@yungmuney5903 The number 1 complaint about Superman is how strong he is you're just stupid
@@user-ik8tb5qh7c Really? Cause this circlejerk of a comment section says otherwise.
I'm not a big Superman fan but as I get older I have more respect for the greatest fictional heroic character ever.
Love your Superman videos. You're the best channel that showcases what Superman can TRULY do!!
Well I've been waiting for this video and boy I wasn't disappointed great video.
I thought that I khew a lot of DC,but clearly you surpasse! Great work WebCamParrot! I’ll share you with all my friends!
Much appreciated!
I'm sorry goku fanboys but, truth is truth; superman>>>goku
There stories, characters and purposes are different, bro. One is a man striving to surpass the Gods, and another is a God _choosing_ to live and find his humanity among mankind. People give more credit to Goku for being "bad ass" and having to "work for his gains", but they _undercut_ Superman for how much he _has_ to do simply to _exist_ in this world.
Both are awesome in their own ways, though, and I say that as a fan of both for over 30 years.
What does this have to do with Goku in any case? Can we just get over this shit already? Both are completely capable of beating each other, depending on the versions/transformations of both characters, the end.
Shenruss Superman isn’t a god...he has power to rival gods sure, but he isn’t one himself. I see what you’re trying to say though...thought you were starting to quite DB for a second.
@@savagelogic8674 but in the end superman remains stronger and more powerful. I'm sorry but it's a fact
@@rachiddjabrailov4838 literally no one was talking about goku
Love your videos, I feel like you’re really underrated.
I remember once I used to hate superman... but these days I call him the greatest hero of all times even tho he's not my most favourite character. It's probably your best video. Not gonna lie,i got a little shivers because of his greatness 😂👍👏
Quality comment
Same dude🤯
I warmed up to him I understand what he stands it's just I prefer the shadows
Same ❤️❤️❤️ this boi been through a lot
Your videos are much more deeper explanations than others. Good job!
While I think this power is broken a bit beyond what it should be (being higher than CAS itself is kinda just weird since he IS the narrative of Supes), this isn't plot armor. If you want plot armor for Superman, go back and read all the crazy crap he was doing in the 40s-70s. He made new powers borderline every issue just to win. THAT is plot armor.
CAS isn't really the Narrative of Superman he is more so the Concept of Superman never losing.
30:06 the injustice timeline was depunked before it was even an idea
Debunk*
huh? where is injustice timeline 30:06
@Rikkoo899 the idea of Injustice is that Superman kills Lois on accident. In the emperor Joker comic Superman resists being forced by laws of the universe to kill Lois on willpower alone. He simply wouldn't let it happen.
I've always felt Injustice, despite not being a bad story by itself, had everyone acting very out of character. I think it works best if you look at it as a completely separate thing rather than as a possible timeline for the mainline comics.
Super man is the personification of hope
Hey, since you making vid on how powerful ppl like booster gold. Can we one with the thing or aquaman down the future?😁
I was thinking the same thing, I would love for him to go into depth about Aquaman's Water hands, the Trident of Neptune & Trident of Poseidon.
*This TH-camr need more subscriber bruh*
Ya even all the power scaler in youtube who knows him take help from
Excellent video. Love the review. Great job!
What an awesome Video!
I love justice league issue 25 with Superman Clark Kent remembering his son Jonathan Samuel kent superboy to fight the world forager was really Awesome and badass
cc sk indeed and you’re right about that and it breaks my heart that we lost Jonathan Samuel kent superboy as his little 10 year old self to bendis nonsense
That issue was amazing but it hinted at something that flew over everyone's head. The Forger & the Batman Who Laughs even stated that in the end it always comes down to Superman & Batman. What that means? Who knows
John Moreno thank god for it because my god bendis has ruined everything with my favorite Superman family for garbage
I'd be interested to see if that meta-narrative ability would have any affect when confronting someone from outside the DC metaverse, such as a Marvel character, or if it's something Supes can only call upon when he's on his proverbial home turf. Nevertheless, great video
Andy Versus plot manipulation is an ability certain characters have and if they are fighting you can totally compare their plot abilities, as that is an attribute which allows characters to win fights.
He did not use this meta-narrative in JLA/Avengers, through one might said he did not need to (during the assault on Korna's fortress, he wielded both Mjolnir, thanks to Odin briefly lifting the enchantment and Cap's shield).
He a Cap actually suffer from butting heads seemingly for trivial or no reason, due them both being attuned to their Meta-verse and reacting to the intrusion of the other meta-verse.
Depends honestly on how you view the overvoid. Do you view the over void as containing the marvel universe and others as many think? If so, he totally can. And honestly, this power goes beyond even the overvoid and final heaven, which is insane so if there is ANY META-NARRATIVE power out there that can be used outside of their own continuity, it's this one.
I'll shed some light on this the story of superman falls under a few abilities when it comes to vs battles, which in such standard battle assumptions which is the typical and consistently.
Verified means for 'vs battles regardless of its a crossover or otherwise actually especially for crossverse fights.
If it's something like the one above needing a well functioning system in verse specifically which isn't a hax ability inheritently.
So yes whoever is arguing for superman as long as he understands what's required like if there is literally no other way to win for him.
The story of superman is a passive ability at that point. So yes it'd work, btw it falls under plot manipulation and fate/narritive manip. These hax abilities aren't limited or restrained by in verse rules or stats.
However superman can't just use it either, only if there is no other way to win and at that point is when it'll automatically activate or passively.
I fucking despise "meta-narrative plot manipulation" bs when considering who wins in fictional crossover death matches. Not only that they bring up so much questions that shouldn't need to be asked in the first place (like what would this really mean against a character from a separate series entirely?), they just suck the fun and nuance out of everything and literally dissolves into the equivalent how elementary school kiddies play battle on playground with each other.
"I hit you with my SUPER MEGA LAZER!"
"Oh yeah well I blocked it with my forcefield!"
"Nuh uh my lazer broke through so you die!"
"Nuh uh I teleport out!"
And you should know what I mean by now.
this is incredible
Make like 1000 more videos please. I'll wait. Your content is great
Superman's most frail and fragile of hope is when he goes up against Batman's always absurd and impenetrable plot armor. Such confrontations are examples of the worst writing in comics ever since Miller defecated onto the comic page.
Louis Riehm what ? He mostly wins their fights.Just because Batman has two famous wins doesn’t mean it’s a common occurrence
James Codeline Yeah, but unfortunately that’s what is blown up to a disgusting degree. So many fanboys and even casual viewers are convinced Batman will just beat him every time, and it gets annoying real fast. Same thing with him quote “soloing the Justice League”, when he technically never has directly, when they’re willing to fight in canon.
Seriously, that Miller comic had Batman need to use a lot of shit to even do that.
And even then Superman could have won.
@SSJ4GAWD LEDGER The point of my comment is this: The supposed appeal of Batman for most who like him is that he's relatable, based on real life, a human at his peak, the best at what he does. A relatable billionaire, expert at most forms of combat. I didn't realize there were so many billionaires who read comics. Batman's very existence is plot armor. Then there's Superman who's based on science fiction. Of course he can do what he does, he's an alien. It's not plot armor, it's his meta-human abilities.
Man these vids are goooooood! Love your vids man! Opening my eyes to just how powerful Supes is. Or other characters for example...like Trigon! Cant wait to see more!
Glad you like them!
Super enjoyed it
If or whenever you get a chance can you please make a long, thorough in-depth video of The Backstory, Character, Powers, Feats, Abilities, Major Storylines, Allies, Enemies, etc. of “The Spiderman of 2099”?……
I enjoyed every second of this video
Did you just do a video about superman?
Story of Superman=illegal character to use in death battle
"too strong"
I love your videos
10:10 that hits different now
I’m here to remind myself of Superman’s power before watching the ZS Justice League
Superman's true power hasn't even been shown yet. All we really need for his power is the restoration of the Snyderverse which will happen through Discovery during the merger. I can't wait!
Fire video
I was just thinking earlier I'd love to see a video about every version of Braniac
He said the emblem on his chest represents hope
I feel like hope or hope prevails is a better name than "the story of superman"
The only TH-cam channel in the whole TH-camrs who understands superman and what he is stands for.
great work bro love ur channel.
This video would have been useful at the peak of the Goku vs Supes debate but thx anyways good vid lmao
Best Goku :multiversal
Best superman :outerversal
@@puckry9686 I dont mean to sould like a goku tard but god 4d goku reaches beyond narratives and story and fuses with our reality so
Best super man = high outerversal
Best goku= beyond metaversal
isiah alcindor 4th wall breaking. Not impressive. Base Superman one shots
@@75_86 it's not 4th wall breaking its rising above fiction and narrative to merging with the creators of said narratives as a feat he could fuse with who ever wrote superman to make the story of superman was never written
isiah alcindor No he isn’t because Goku himself is a fictional character and all you see him doing is part of the fictional script. So yeah that’s contradictory af. And according to your logic, characters like Superman also be above fiction since they broken the fourth wall as well as 90% of other characters. Your logic is dumb af
This should call The Hope of Superman so can exactly same name as The Story Of Superman who is Embodiment of Hope One of greater Multiverse in DC comic who recreated Back the entire Multiverse back.
Been debunked.
@@Kira22558 Rebunked take it or leave it now Cope harder
@@FlowSouls where?
@mohammadliman what? what been debunk
@@Rikkoo899 story of superman.
When you can, could you do how powerful the Flash is (Wally or Barry)
Please do a video on the question! I wanna know more about him!
Thank you, question formative.
You are the best powerscaler ever webcam
Thank you
16:15 what’s this song?
Hey, I'm new to your channel and whilst I'm not sure I agree that because it's stated as a power it gets rid of the plot armour criticism (it just seems like plot armour with a veneer of self justification)... I still actually love your videos! The quality is outstanding and even if I sometimes disagree, your arguments are well thought out! I'm subscribing now as I slowly make my way through your back catalogue 🙂
Beyond plot armor for me
@Webcamparrot when are we getting that in depth captain atom video?
21:39 One story actually had it that Bats is destined to always die in the line of duty, and be reborn as another Bruce Wayne, given a few precious years as a child that many don't even get, before a theater, an alleyway, a mugger, and two gunshots.
Superman is so Superman he has literal Plot armour as a passive Super power
I don't remember if i asked for a video but do recall wanting one on this topic and being i haven't been that into some of your more recent videos seeing this and the Booster gold video back to back makes me really happy also with how often he's an key player in a story or the plot focus' around him how powerful do you think the story of Batman is lol just kidding but is the story of Superman really a power he has or just more of idea/universal constant like the passing of time and numbers, something you can't get rid of no matter what.
Outstanding video
Is that contingent on an unequivocal Radditz?
Can you do a video on Batman and how time doesn't affect him.
Most accurate comic interpreter. Thank you sir. Please continue to make content I love all your work. Peace peace and chicken grease.
Please please do the final crisis vid
I am still campaigning for Web to make a 2nd Constantine vid.
Will a wonder woman and Martian manhunter or thor video be possible?
Honestly there are only pretty minor differences between a plothole and saying that a character did this because on a meta level the character has plot powers, it's basically just the authors being self-aware about it. The story of Superman might have been a novel idea in that silver age issue but with it being used many times and extending to Loise, Supes parents, Batman, Wonder Women it's basically just saying relevant characters can do anything because they are relevant.
It's the writers just not even bothering, it's not clever to repeat tropes but show that you are aware of how meta it is. Like Batman kicking the Spectre is widely considered a laughable outlier, but if he said "I am batman my story is important to this universe" people would treat it as well-written when really writers just unironically subscribe to the "I am the goddamn Batman/Superman" meme, instead of coming up with fresh stories.
A plot hole happens when there lacks a proper explanation of how an event occurs. Batman kicking the spectre has no justification or explanation as to how he was able to do that, so obviously a plot hole. I’m contrast Superman ignoring the retcon corporations attempt to reset the over void, had an explanation, i.e the story of Superman. The difference between a plot hole and a plot based ability is that of an explanation. You said the difference was self awareness of the author, which can be true but may not be in all instances . An author might write an explanation for something without being self aware that it is an explanation. I also don’t think the story of Superman is at all similar to any of the plot based abilities shown by other JL members and virtually the rest of dc. If you want to call plot manipulation lazy, because it has been done before, then virtually all of writing is lazy because it has been done before. Not all pieces of writing need to be unique for it to be well thought out and written.
I've got to say I agree with OP... it feels like DC is saying "its not plot armour/contrivance because I gave him plot armour powers!" Or say if enough people claim that Batman's a Mary Sue or what have you then DC say "Well actually he know has plot powers! So you can't complain".
I'm not a DC expert or anything but as an outsider it just feels like a justification for lazy writing.
@@noodlesyoutuber Just because truly original, new ideas are rare or even impossible does not mean things can't be cliche or boringly repetitive, there are degrees. Giving characters limited powers to give them certain options is widely considered to drive innovation/ingenuity, having specifically the ability to lean back on common, well-established tropes does not really breed creativity.
Good or bad writing is subjective, people can actively enjoy plot-holes too, but they are usually considered "bad" because the creators are not putting in the effort to work within the constraints of their story. A similar argument goes for powers that boil down to "making a typical plot happen:"
@@maxmustermann9058 lol man you responding to a 2 year old comment. I agree that things can be cliche but I don’t necessarily think the story of Superman is cliche. I’m not replying anymore though let this convo die lmao
Yo ... nice intro
The power of love! The ultimate plot armour!
Can you please do a how strong is Lucifer
Can u do how powerful is rebirth Superman
Probably my favorite little titbit from Final Crisis would be tying Tawky Tawny to the Tiger Kingdom of Kamadi's earth.
I love your videos pal keep it up....
Can you do DC KARATE KID
yo parrot great video as all of your content. Serious superman question. In the justice league 2018 six dimension arc. Do you think superman was actually amped by the sun or were was it more mental and hope he was powered by? I know we see him fly through them but i was rereading and 99% of the context, narration, dialogue and showings that the suns in the 6th dimension really had very little effect on superman. Also i realized how much motivational and hope based context snyder wrote in there with his mental state.
He talked about this in the vid
oh
75 86 thx for that i completely missed that.
Fuck yea I was waiting for this vid
Ayo i love the warhammer 40k mechanicus music
The Story of Supes noice, the best hero with the strongest narrative.
Agreed
Were you in Splashes server?
@@momonga1722 yeah
@@nWo_4life Do I know you?
@@momonga1722 Probably
So what you're saying is that it's literally Deus Ex Machina?
Right so true
Please do MANGOG!
Does this ability only extend to main universe superman or all supermen?
And if it's all of them, how does that effect "evil" versions like the Injustice Superman or the Justice Lords?
Angelo Tamez well the ability mostly extends to supermen that have a weekly comic series like tas,52,silver,golden and since Superman is a idea of hope the evil supermen would be the opposite of that and loose the ability
I mean it did happen once to the Supermen of the multiverse.
Evil supermen lose it like injustice he got beaten up by Zeus very badly the main superman from earth 0 would of not lose like that
@@Jondoe297.. Injustice Superman I think had the Ablity in Injustice Year Zero where he actually Looks Identical to Main Universe Superman
Thank you thank you thanks you
Webcam your the best
I can't wait for the Doomsday and Superboy prime videos
So does this technology make him the most powerfull superhero/one of the most powerfull things in existence?
Basically is this power like a winning power as in if he uses it he just straight up wins? Cause if so that's awesome.
I think he is and there CAS who might go tou to tou with god.
Hey, will you explain Perpetua and her powers? Who created Monitor and Anti Monitor? Was it Over void or Perpetua?
I heard from a fan of Lucifer that she is not the creater of multi verse and weaker than Michael and Samuel.
Since you added a panel fron the bleach manga have you ever read bleach?
You know what I do find annoying, I have heard marvel fans say thor can beat superman even with this power.
@Soren who's YFV
@Soren nevermind I looked him up. How can he scale rune king thor to cosmic armored superman.
@@Indy921 I have also seen it and I dont know what to say first he say the RKT kill an author lvl being how every "Those Who Sit Above in Shadow were celestial beings who lived off the great energies generated by the lives of Norse gods" they were only celestial.
@@ion7470 well some people say the story of thor beats the story of superman but casmic armored superman wich is a weaker version of this brakes the forth wall, sticks his hand out to the reader and adapts to any threat. I did not see anything like that for the story of thor if it's even a real confirmed thing.
What I like to call it, Super Mega Ultra Ultimate Omnipotent Plot Armor
Can we get a Mandrakk video soon?
Will you do more marvel characters
I think this power applies to the whole trinity such that if they are on the opposing sides of each other, everything goes wrong. Look at Injustice, Flashpoint, Justice Lords and many more. And when the trinity isn't even a fighting force, everything goes wrong again, such as in DCeased or the early part of Dark Knights Metal.
So, what would happen if Contastine and Superman went up against each other using their most powerful ability?
Superman's power is on a higher level.
WebCamParrot Just making sure.
Good
#Kickkarate
Please do thor