Ive been looking at this and the Honda Accord, but ive been hearing that this car has some problems with the vent and sometimes it gets errors on everything like breaking, needs Oil change, ETC.
I do the same thing. I drive all over downtown Chicago late at night. It feels super nice when your the only car on the road. Well... Kinda. Except when im driving by a shooting that took place minutes before then there will be tons of cops everywhere but besides that. Its always a nice cruz.
This was a surprisingly good car review; straight to the point, informative, down to earth perspective, and great to hear what features you use more than you thought and what they do. Thanks a lot!
I have my ext in same color as yours and love it.. Your review locked in my choice of color.. White was my second choice. You genuinely look happy about your car.. I can't believe what a great car it is and how beautiful it is.. I think its the best bang for the buck for performance, style, fuel economy and safety ...
I just bought a 2016 Cicic EXL. I enjoyed your video and learned some new things about my new car from your video. So thanks! I’ve only had my Civic for 4 days and am loving it so far!
I recently got a 2016 Honda Civic EX-L in black last Tuesday (yes, she is already dirty lol). I love it! Your review of your personal car helped me to make my decision. Thank you! I wanted it in red but my previous car was red and decided to go for something different, so I went with the black on black. When I first got it, I did utilize the automatic windows, letting them all down before you get in the car since it was still hot at that time. I love the automatic start. My previous car was a 2002 Volvo S60, so to me, this is a huge upgrade, so I am still getting used to all of the new features!!
I had surging problems on my EX-T when going on a steady speed above 40mph. I started getting that problem after reaching more than 1000 miles. I researched online and found out that many people were having that problem and in a forum they suggested to take thr car to the dealership and apply the update 16-028. I took it to the dealership and they applied the update and the car is smooth now. It took them 30 mins.
Took a test drive of the EX-L today, it was fast, quiet, and luxurious. That leather wrapped steering wheel really adds a nice touch (literally) to the car.
just bought the exact same one couple days ago...love it! getting windows tinted next week. I also added the extras like side molding, under spoiler, interior lighting, console lighting and door sill ligthing
I love my 2016 Honda Civic! It has a gorgeous, sleek design and drives like a dream plus it has so many features that completely spoil you. I use the economy button most of the time and am averaging about 36 miles per gallon. However, when I need the turbo boost, it's amazing added power and speed!
Great review, I bought this exact same model and color after watching your your review! Now I've got to go outside and figure out how everything works! Thanks again for the great review!
+Your Honda Man (Edward) I've never purchased a "practical" car before, I thought they would lack power, amenities and refinement, and the others I drove did, but the new 2016 Civic beats them all hands down! It's a great car and an exceptional value, I love it!
Thanks so much for the video! I know it’s a bit older, but I just got mine! I am in love! I traded in my 2011 Dodge Charger that I absolutely adored. It was getting older, higher mileage and invariably things start to wear. Anyways, point blank...the Honda is faster! I was having to watch my speed the whole way home and giggling like a school girl! I’m a disabled Veteran and the heated seat is a Godsend! So very comfortable! The ride is smooth, and just plain fun to drive!! I can’t say enough good and that’s after one 45 minute drive home! I hope you get to see this and if anyone is wondering if they should purchase one...this is a resounding YES!!!
Love the car I recently got the ex-t in white. A cool feature if You didn't know is hold the unlock button and it will roll down your windows and sunroof.
Awesome, beautiful color. I got the touring coupe in the same color last weekp. I'm loving the car so far, I still can't believe it's a Civic. I feel like I'm driving a more expensive and upscale car.
Stumbled onto one used last week and took it home. Turbo charged fun that has excellent fuel economy, and slick looks inside and out. Loving it with these high gas prices in 2022.
Its simple, if a car has sexy lines.... get a lighter shade. If the car is a bit ugly or the design is way too aggressive (murano); get it in black the Civic has absolutely perfect design. It meshes well and a black car will only hide those sexy lines Silver was the way to go for this car
Great looking car Edward congrats! I was stuck between the civic and the accord it was such a hard choice I ended up with the 16 accord ex love it so far.
Good to see a real type of review, not just the initial review. Have been looking at the Pilot but decided the Civic might be a better choice and I like the 1.5T so the EX-L is on the top of the list. I can tell you really like the car. Good job.
I love how much pride you have for your car! I'm hoping to get this car sometime later in the year, seeming you talking about this car makes me want it now!
Awesome review, and car! The Civic RS here in the Philippines looks great in Lunar Silver met. with the black grille! The color also looks nice on the CR-V. Again, awesome car and review! Looking forward to more! :D
Great review! very comprehensive and about all the important relevant stuff. more detailed than any of the other high end reviews I've seen backed by endless production budgets. 👍
I'm 46, have car, black, runs great, looks good, great on gas!! Push start. Connects to ur phone as soon as u start car, happy I got it a few years back
2016 Civic Touring model spec. says 10 speaker music system. I can see 8 speakers.. 2 on front doors, 2 on A pillars, 1 on dashboard.. 1 Sub-Woofer + 2 Speakers in trunk... Where are the other 2 speakers located??
Great review. I recently bought the 2016 civic touring about a month now (I have 973 mile on it now) which I didn't really want. I think for the price the EX-L is a better value, but when I went to buy mine there was no ex-l with Honda sensing. For only an extra $1000 though not necessary it's worth it. I mostly use it in traffic, takes the stress out the commute. But it's a GREAT car I love it. 390 miles to the tank while using the a/c, car takes regular gas but I put 89 octane. $26 to fill.
Heads up. I like my Civic EX sedan however I'm not happy with the four original defective Firestone tires with approximately 13,000 miles on them, that came on the car, nor am I pleased that Firestone customer service refused compensation. I"m not sure but if my memory serves me correct, the Ford SUVs that rolled over killing some people wrecked due to Firestone tires blowing out. Correct me if I'm wrong. This comment will cost Firestone more than the tires they should have put on my Civic.
Kevin Allen that moonrise is nice but it cuts into the headroom a lot. I had my driving school with an 08 corolla and it was a struggle getting in and out. That's just my experience
I used to have a 6th gen Civic in silver, you are right that it looks cleaner than darker colours. I upgraded to a 10th gen in dark grey, was sick of silver and wanted something darker (but not black). I love the colour, but it gets filthy looking alright... looks great for a week when washed, then dirty again.
I am trying to buy a used 2016 EX-T right now. Haven’t had any luck yet. My budget isn’t quite where dealerships want it. Hopefully I can get one because I have been saving and dreaming of owning one ever since I saw one in 2016!!
Hi Edward, I know this review is a few years old. Can you tell me if this car has navigation? I don’t recall you mentioning that. So are you still in love with this car 4 years later? Any updates you would like to share?
Your review helped me decide to go for it. I have the same trim and color. I love my choice. Thought about Ex-T but I wanted leather since its easier to clean and I travel with my dog a lot. Considered the Touring but dealer wouldnt budge on the price and 28000otd was just too much for me. Realized the only difference would be sensing which I didnt think was worth it I hear people end up turning it off and nav which you could use carplay..anywho the Ex-L ended up being the best choice. Love the moonroof, auto dimming mirror just about everything.
I have the coupe. I'm not sure if it works for sedans but through the key fob I can open all the windows including the moon roof while you're outside just like the accord. Just press the unlock button once then press and hold it the second time until all windows are fully open.
If I needs maps on my phone, but I'm too lazy to plug it into the USB plug, resting the phone on top of the infotainment system monitor is a great spot for visibility. I can floor the gas pedal on an inclined road, and my phone will not fall off, so it's pretty secure sitting there and it's a great spot to see your phone's screen. I have an LG V10 phone.
The reason I'm watching this is because yesterday I had my 2017 Accord Sport tires stolen and I'm looking into getting this one. Second time this happened to me. I'm tired. Honda gotta stop making rims generations compatible
hey!! ive been watching your videos because im looking into buying a civic. i was just curious as to why you didnt purchase the touring model ?????? is it just not worth the extra money???? could you do a video with ALL the differences the touring model has????
Honda should have multi touch "pinch gesture" feature supported once the user is in android auto or apply car play enabled in google maps or waze apps for example. This is one feature alot of people are complaining about without it feels outdated!
Just took a test drive of this exact same car ! Love it ! Same color Lunar Silver . Like you said in your review, as far as color is concerned, Black shows dirt ! I found the neutral colors like Silver don't show the dirt as much. But I beg to differ with you when you said the White doesn't show the dirt. I had a white car and "OH yes it does!!!! That's why I would never buy another white car, pretty color- but always needs to be washed ! Unless your lucky to have a garage!! Thank you for the review . I think I'm gonna go for the Honda Civic EXL ! Enjoy!
I found this review very helpful. Thanks for cover the electronic seat feature. This was a concern for me, since I'm short. The model I test drove did not have the up graded leather seats.
I am only 17 years old, buy I want this car so bad! Ever since I saw those tail lights I just wanted to know more and more. I just don't know the best place to buy one. I am hoping to get one as low as possible (Im only 17 so money is an issue) but don't know the best places or websites to look!
In my country, the top of the range 2016 civic is $45k :( you guys are lucky, you have the lower trim option and much cheaper price. we only get the touring model, and a selection of boring colors lol. no Aegean blue, or even Rallye red.
+Christopher Millington We do have the Accord, but it's 50k. well, we did get the euro civic type-R $140k (from local importers), but I don't know if we will get the hatch version. Because the last time we got a civic hatch was in 1995 lol, I hope they will sell the hatchback here.
+Christopher Millington Not a markup, just a 150% Import tax :) to control the overgrowing of cars here. That's why a brand new Ecoboost mustang also cost $140k here lol.
Had my car for a month and put 4000 miles in it lol. I go driving for no reason, love this car.
It's that nice!!!!
Ive been looking at this and the Honda Accord, but ive been hearing that this car has some problems with the vent and sometimes it gets errors on everything like breaking, needs Oil change, ETC.
I do the same thing. I drive all over downtown Chicago late at night. It feels super nice when your the only car on the road. Well... Kinda. Except when im driving by a shooting that took place minutes before then there will be tons of cops everywhere but besides that. Its always a nice cruz.
Fox Hound 😭🤣
@@jedbaptiste738 yes it does have vent problems
Silver cars never appealed to me before I saw it on this Civic. Now it's all I want!
+Eric Cruz It's stunning in this combo. especially with the clean lines
This was a surprisingly good car review; straight to the point, informative, down to earth perspective, and great to hear what features you use more than you thought and what they do. Thanks a lot!
Keto Wolf I appreciate the compliment!!! That means a lot!!!
I have my ext in same color as yours and love it.. Your review locked in my choice of color.. White was my second choice. You genuinely look happy about your car.. I can't believe what a great car it is and how beautiful it is.. I think its the best bang for the buck for performance, style, fuel economy and safety ...
If I don't live on the east coast, you would have definitely earned my business. Good job and keep it up!!
Thank you!
I would've too but I'm from Las Vegas. I bought the sedan touring with the same color as you.
I just bought a 2016 Cicic EXL. I enjoyed your video and learned some new things about my new car from your video. So thanks! I’ve only had my Civic for 4 days and am loving it so far!
I recently got a 2016 Honda Civic EX-L in black last Tuesday (yes, she is already dirty lol). I love it! Your review of your personal car helped me to make my decision. Thank you! I wanted it in red but my previous car was red and decided to go for something different, so I went with the black on black. When I first got it, I did utilize the automatic windows, letting them all down before you get in the car since it was still hot at that time. I love the automatic start. My previous car was a 2002 Volvo S60, so to me, this is a huge upgrade, so I am still getting used to all of the new features!!
Congrats! I still love it! everything you mentioned are all AMAZING!
Hi
I had surging problems on my EX-T when going on a steady speed above 40mph. I started getting that problem after reaching more than 1000 miles.
I researched online and found out that many people were having that problem and in a forum they suggested to take thr car to the dealership and apply the update 16-028. I took it to the dealership and they applied the update and the car is smooth now. It took them 30 mins.
Thanks for the heads up!!! This is super useful!
+Rafael Toledo thank you
This review helped me make my final decision. Thank you!
Also helped me decided if I wanted black or white. Gonna go with white :D
Took a test drive of the EX-L today, it was fast, quiet, and luxurious. That leather wrapped steering wheel really adds a nice touch (literally) to the car.
just bought the exact same one couple days ago...love it! getting windows tinted next week. I also added the extras like side molding, under spoiler, interior lighting, console lighting and door sill ligthing
I love my 2016 Honda Civic! It has a gorgeous, sleek design and drives like a dream plus it has so many features that completely spoil you. I use the economy button most of the time and am averaging about 36 miles per gallon. However, when I need the turbo boost, it's amazing added power and speed!
Great review, I bought this exact same model and color after watching your your review! Now I've got to go outside and figure out how everything works! Thanks again for the great review!
How do you like it so far?!
+Your Honda Man (Edward) I've never purchased a "practical" car before, I thought they would lack power, amenities and refinement, and the others I drove did, but the new 2016 Civic beats them all hands down! It's a great car and an exceptional value, I love it!
Where I’m from we need remote start to cool the car off, not to warm it up
Very helpful. Lumbar support is one of the most crucial thing for me. Hopefully 2017 model will have it
Thanks so much for the video! I know it’s a bit older, but I just got mine! I am in love! I traded in my 2011 Dodge Charger that I absolutely adored. It was getting older, higher mileage and invariably things start to wear. Anyways, point blank...the Honda is faster! I was having to watch my speed the whole way home and giggling like a school girl! I’m a disabled Veteran and the heated seat is a Godsend! So very comfortable! The ride is smooth, and just plain fun to drive!! I can’t say enough good and that’s after one 45 minute drive home! I hope you get to see this and if anyone is wondering if they should purchase one...this is a resounding YES!!!
Love the car I recently got the ex-t in white. A cool feature if You didn't know is hold the unlock button and it will roll down your windows and sunroof.
That's right! Another way to cool down the car before you get there! That feature used to be reserved for accords and more expensive Hondas
Congratulations on your ride bro 👍🏻
Edward, nice reviewed. After watching this I'm convince that this is the best civic yet.
I agree and thanks!
Got the Lunar Silver because of this video, thanks man! keep doing your thing!
Purchased an Aegean Blue touring a few weeks ago! Pretty happy with it so far!
Awesome, beautiful color. I got the touring coupe in the same color last weekp. I'm loving the car so far, I still can't believe it's a Civic. I feel like I'm driving a more expensive and upscale car.
There’s a pre owned one of these with 15k miles I’m thinking of getting. Wish I could get a 2022 but I can’t wait for the availability
I found a 2016 with 34,000 miles . Definitely going to try and grab it!
Stumbled onto one used last week and took it home. Turbo charged fun that has excellent fuel economy, and slick looks inside and out. Loving it with these high gas prices in 2022.
Its simple, if a car has sexy lines.... get a lighter shade. If the car is a bit ugly or the design is way too aggressive (murano); get it in black
the Civic has absolutely perfect design. It meshes well and a black car will only hide those sexy lines
Silver was the way to go for this car
Great insight
NYG_NYM_UNC I agree I got the white
i think majority look best in black including this one just that the color has so many downsides
Been convinced for a bit. But thanks for making me feel better about it. Just waiting for the 2017 year model to pick up a manual with the turbo.
Great looking car Edward congrats! I was stuck between the civic and the accord it was such a hard choice I ended up with the 16 accord ex love it so far.
Good to see a real type of review, not just the initial review. Have been looking at the Pilot but decided the Civic might be a better choice and I like the 1.5T so the EX-L is on the top of the list. I can tell you really like the car. Good job.
Thank you I just bought this car!! You made me so excited and taught me how to use it!!
I love how much pride you have for your car! I'm hoping to get this car sometime later in the year, seeming you talking about this car makes me want it now!
We just got the lunar silver EX-T coupe three days ago. The tech is amazing compared to the 9th gen. We love it!
i wish they would offer the sunroof as an option and not forced onto you via trim levels
Awesome review, and car! The Civic RS here in the Philippines looks great in Lunar Silver met. with the black grille! The color also looks nice on the CR-V. Again, awesome car and review! Looking forward to more! :D
The camera shot of the car's rear shows off your home's cross streets, just so you know
Great review! very comprehensive and about all the important relevant stuff. more detailed than any of the other high end reviews I've seen backed by endless production budgets. 👍
After seeing your video I want to buy the 2016 Civic EX-L. Wish I could do business with you since you deserve to get the sale but I'm from Texas.
Did you purchase this car from yourself? 😂
Yes I did!
He must have got one hell of a deal -_-
This was actually a really good review. Thanks man for the upload!
Does this car have wireless phone charging?
Just a reminder. With connected garage you would like to have good ventilation when using remote start.
If you want to continue living, yes. Good point.
I'm 46, have car, black, runs great, looks good, great on gas!! Push start. Connects to ur phone as soon as u start car, happy I got it a few years back
2016 Civic Touring model spec. says 10 speaker music system. I can see 8 speakers.. 2 on front doors, 2 on A pillars, 1 on dashboard.. 1 Sub-Woofer + 2 Speakers in trunk... Where are the other 2 speakers located??
How good are the speakers on the 2017 Civic EX-L? How many speakers are in the EX-L? Do they have a lot of bass?
I have say your videos sold me on my civic EX L.
its funny that people in automatics think they need a brake hold while on a hill haha
This is one of the cars I want either Honada Accord,or Honda Civic Sedan.This is a good car.
If only they would've released this in AWD... That would've been perfect for the north east
Awesome personality! Car looks great!
Very helpful even years later! Thank you!
Great review. I recently bought the 2016 civic touring about a month now (I have 973 mile on it now) which I didn't really want. I think for the price the EX-L is a better value, but when I went to buy mine there was no ex-l with Honda sensing. For only an extra $1000 though not necessary it's worth it. I mostly use it in traffic, takes the stress out the commute. But it's a GREAT car I love it. 390 miles to the tank while using the a/c, car takes regular gas but I put 89 octane. $26 to fill.
Heads up. I like my Civic EX sedan however I'm not happy with the four original defective Firestone tires with approximately 13,000 miles on them, that came on the car, nor am I pleased that Firestone customer service refused compensation. I"m not sure but if my memory serves me correct, the Ford SUVs that rolled over killing some people wrecked due to Firestone tires blowing out. Correct me if I'm wrong. This comment will cost Firestone more than the tires they should have put on my Civic.
The sedan looks nice, personally I am waiting for the hatchback. The civic is like a god send for us tall drivers.
5'10"?
+Kevin Allen I'm 6'4" and it is the best compared to the corolla
I'm the same height and fit in my 08 corolla quite well. I have no sunroof, though. If i did, my head would touch the roof.
Kevin Allen that moonrise is nice but it cuts into the headroom a lot. I had my driving school with an 08 corolla and it was a struggle getting in and out. That's just my experience
Congrats on the new ride.
I used to have a 6th gen Civic in silver, you are right that it looks cleaner than darker colours. I upgraded to a 10th gen in dark grey, was sick of silver and wanted something darker (but not black). I love the colour, but it gets filthy looking alright... looks great for a week when washed, then dirty again.
I am trying to buy a used 2016 EX-T right now. Haven’t had any luck yet. My budget isn’t quite where dealerships want it. Hopefully I can get one because I have been saving and dreaming of owning one ever since I saw one in 2016!!
Nice review. Im looking into trading in my kia optima for a new civic. I want better gas mileage and not such a noisy ride. Thanks again.
I enjoy hotboxing my civic, small space, big clouds = super baked... -_-
+M83 Collective 💨
me too 😂✊😤
only ass hats say 'bro'
Does the smell stay in?
Hi Edward,
I know this review is a few years old. Can you tell me if this car has navigation? I don’t recall you mentioning that. So are you still in love with this car 4 years later? Any updates you would like to share?
Your review helped me decide to go for it. I have the same trim and color. I love my choice. Thought about Ex-T but I wanted leather since its easier to clean and I travel with my dog a lot. Considered the Touring but dealer wouldnt budge on the price and 28000otd was just too much for me. Realized the only difference would be sensing which I didnt think was worth it I hear people end up turning it off and nav which you could use carplay..anywho the Ex-L ended up being the best choice. Love the moonroof, auto dimming mirror just about everything.
Im about to make a purchase soon this upcoming week or this sunday and i wanted to know whats the little difference between ex-l and ex-t ????
*what"s the difference between ex-t and ex-l*
hi and how about the tank and the consuption of the car ? how many miles does a tank does ?
Hey man! Love watching your videos! Did you consider the touring? And if so! Why did you choose ex-l over the touring?
$60 in payment
I have the coupe. I'm not sure if it works for sedans but through the key fob I can open all the windows including the moon roof while you're outside just like the accord. Just press the unlock button once then press and hold it the second time until all windows are fully open.
If I needs maps on my phone, but I'm too lazy to plug it into the USB plug, resting the phone on top of the infotainment system monitor is a great spot for visibility. I can floor the gas pedal on an inclined road, and my phone will not fall off, so it's pretty secure sitting there and it's a great spot to see your phone's screen. I have an LG V10 phone.
Great review honda man!
I wish honda would make a v6 option on the civic tht would be badass
They're making the r
+John Joshua isn't it a manual though?
+John Joshua the type r is just a 2.0liter turbo
That's to where the Honda accord comes in.
The reason I'm watching this is because yesterday I had my 2017 Accord Sport tires stolen and I'm looking into getting this one. Second time this happened to me. I'm tired. Honda gotta stop making rims generations compatible
Edwin, very likable personality I would like with work with.... love your videos!!
I def got a black car. Because I love Black-but I literally feel like I have to wash it everyday ugh. Great Review!
hey!! ive been watching your videos because im looking into buying a civic. i was just curious as to why you didnt purchase the touring model ?????? is it just not worth the extra money???? could you do a video with ALL the differences the touring model has????
?????????
Alyssa Hegyi I'd like to know why tooo!!!!
Alyssa Hegyi A
Honda should have multi touch "pinch gesture" feature supported once the user is in android auto or apply car play enabled in google maps or waze apps for example.
This is one feature alot of people are complaining about without it feels outdated!
how do you find the space compared to the accord ?
That is a really nice car!
Definitely considering the upgrade from my 2013 Camry 😍
Got mine with 53000 miles used. Didn't have it 5 days before a deer ran into the passenger side
all that and you didn't even open the hood
Just took a test drive of this exact same car ! Love it ! Same color Lunar Silver . Like you said in your review, as far as color is concerned, Black shows dirt ! I found the neutral colors like Silver don't show the dirt as much. But I beg to differ with you when you said the White doesn't show the dirt. I had a white car and "OH yes it does!!!! That's why I would never buy another white car, pretty color- but always needs to be washed ! Unless your lucky to have a garage!! Thank you for the review . I think I'm gonna go for the Honda Civic EXL ! Enjoy!
Very nice review, thanks!!!!
I went with the ext manual since it came with the manual transmission and leather seats get really cold and really hot.
Excellent video! Thank you for posting.
I found this review very helpful. Thanks for cover the electronic seat feature. This was a concern for me, since I'm short. The model I test drove did not have the up graded leather seats.
Does this have the navigation and/or honda sensing?
Are you going to do a review on the hatchback when it comes? If so I'm super excited! It's going to be my next purchase.
I'm looking at maybe purchasing this car soon. Anybody have any updated reviews or thoughts?
I use the economy for heavy traffic, works well
Beautiful car and an excellent option for anyone!! I love the civic line.
i love lunar silver. its my fave color. Nice choice in color! 😉
Hey great video!! What is the difference between Honda Civic EX-L and EX-T? Thank you
Why is it that the side panel that go from your stereo console down to the middle cubby look like it have a big crack in it?
Hey, something missing from exl is doesn't have homelink to open the garage ...
I really like this mini Accord 🖒
I am only 17 years old, buy I want this car so bad! Ever since I saw those tail lights I just wanted to know more and more. I just don't know the best place to buy one. I am hoping to get one as low as possible (Im only 17 so money is an issue) but don't know the best places or websites to look!
YOUR NAME any luck?
christian ocampo I’m actually getting a Honda Civic touring coupe 2016 this week. Loved driving it and it looks amazing.
JKRapids don’t get the coupe get the hatchback!!
what kind of gas do u use
Great video can you get this in a hatchback and non turbo and automatic transmission? 2016 model only
Your auto-dimming mirror really won't be functional with limo tint.
You can also open all of the windows with the smart key without being in the car
Great video man
I'm torn between the Accord Sport HS and Civic Touring. Decisions! Gah!!
Great review... I'm actually looking into picking up an EX-L this week! Do the EX-L models come standard with the Lane Watch?
In my country, the top of the range 2016 civic is $45k :(
you guys are lucky, you have the lower trim option and much cheaper price. we only get the touring model, and a selection of boring colors lol. no Aegean blue, or even Rallye red.
+Christopher Millington We do have the Accord, but it's 50k. well, we did get the euro civic type-R $140k (from local importers), but I don't know if we will get the hatch version. Because the last time we got a civic hatch was in 1995 lol, I hope they will sell the hatchback here.
+HNRichard umm. Is your country ran by mobsters? INSANE markup.
+Christopher Millington Not a markup, just a 150% Import tax :) to control the overgrowing of cars here. That's why a brand new Ecoboost mustang also cost $140k here lol.
HNRichard i dont know where the fuck u from but i pray for u