I've been checking your channel for a review of the Basecamp since it came out, so I'm super glad to see this. I think this Basecamp, with its reconfigured transmission and motor placement, finally puts the SCX10 III back on the evolutionary path of its excellent two predecessors. I, too, felt that the original 10 IIIs gave up too much of the balance and simplicity that this line is known for - all for marketing features that the original pre-Horizon Hobby Axial engineers never would have chosen. I'm not necessarily in love with the body of this, but I'm super glad to see a single speed transmisson and mid/low mounted motor. Can't wait to see how it performs at your crawler park!
This video and your other base camp vs trx4 camp video is exactly what I've been looking for! Looking to purchase another crawler for my daughter. Good work
I can’t believe I have gone this whole time without subscribing. 🤦🏻♂️ just subscribed bud! Love your content! The base camp has definitely impressed me and with a couple mods it will hang with a trx4. Props to axial and at a lower price tag. 💪🏼
I really wish someone would just come out with a Tacoma gen 3 body licensed already!!!!! Lol. Axial missed a good opportunity there I think. Make it have options for lights and some bling and it would of looked sharp and they woulda sold a shit ton! Great video as always Francis. Looking forward to the 2nd. 👍
Both seem to be very similar in specs and performance! In my opinion, the choice for the TRX4 brings the benefits of a longer history of bullet proof construction and option parts everywhere. But in those fields the Axial has a lot of benefits too...
I have the scx10 iii jlu kit. One year later still box stock with great electronics and zero issues. Same tires as well and my friend has a few trx4s on hyrax tires and it keeps up with them with the full jlu body. Nothing has broken and we run 5 hour runs.
I just want to say thank you guys for being the first channel to cover this question..... I have never been so "underwhelmed" about an Axial release, and it looks like it was designed by committee (compared to their previous releases) I'm already tired of Horizon Hobbies' corporate bullshit, and especially considering the target market for this thing, consumers need an honest comparison. So thank you
@@RCReviewChannel I think it has to do with where portal axles have so much gear reduction.When you change over to straight axles and flip the gear I think it changes the gear ratio in the trans.Not for certain though.Can't wait for the comparison of the 2 trucks.
This is an entry level truck vehicle and most beginners like to work on things but never mess with electrical. As far as reversing the transmitter I would assume most beginners don’t have a programmable transmitter. I’m not sure about the boot camps stock transmitter if it has the capabilities to reverse. I don’t have a scx10 but hopefully one day.
@@RCReviewChannel I am not an expert on brushed motors, but some motors have built in advance timing, so if you run them in reverse it will be reduced timing. I believe standard 12t Traxxas has no significant advanced timing so it could run fine both directions, not really sure, on brushed erevo and emaxx they have reverse rotating 12t motor
@@RCReviewChannel Once the brushes are bedded in in one direction, the motor is much less effcient in reverse. Also, some esc's dont support reverse motor operation. That and it also changes the gearing in the transmission for more reduction when running straight axles since the portals have a good bit of reduction in them.
Love your reviews. Haven’t found an answer to this so asking your expert advice….Is the Amewi RCX10 or the YK4103 the same as SCX2/3? Can it take Axial metal parts? I have one and can’t seem to find the metal upgrades. Would appreciate the help.
As usual one of the best review of this new car. I agree with all negative points of SCXIII, in fact I bought Gladiator only because my child like it... and finally is really cool ! I tried Proline Gladiator body... but is a toy.. too small for 1/10 chassis... a really strange mistake from Proline quality. Fortunately I found a better RGT Gladiator like body... but in any case Axial Gladiator is really better looking. I also agree that this cheap body is awful.. I don't understand why not place a bit more attention to the look... SCXII as many better bodies with a reasonable cost...
I despise Traxxas but I must admit that the TRX4 body looks better overall. On the other side The axial comes with far better electronics, just for that I'll keep the Axial. Both are still using "U" shaped frame beams... (That's funny if we think that the underrated Yikong Pro/Absima Khamba comes with one piece machined solid chassis). Not my cup of tea but acceptable to a certain degree. Good honest review and comparison, thanks. sir.
@@RCReviewChannel yes, mine come with metal horn and in Traxxas parts list shows that metal is stock and plastic optional. But even metal is not indestructible, me and my friend were abusing our trx4s and driving down the stairs full speed and my friend stripped metal horn, but servo is fine. I would rather change horn than entire servo
The servo arm on mine is metal. I just bought the TRX4 a week ago. I’m new to this category but isn’t it weird where the axle goes into the top portion of the portal it’s just wide open? Like the bearing is there and the CVD portion, I would think you’d want a boot there to keep dirt and stuff out.
Excellent review ! I’ve got an element , vanquish and Trx4 sport .. gotta say the Trx is so damn capable out of the box , I wish there was more comp oriented aftermarket for it but with a NWScaler Scattergun V2 chassis you can build more comp style
They both look great. The axial definitely has the edge as far as the details and body goes, and they have a better servo too (nothing is worse than those 2075’s 😂) but the trx4 has a better motor and esc which gives it more power and speed (and probably more control) and it has that infamous steering radius. I think the TRX4 is still king unless you want scale looks over performance.
I like the look of trx4, it looks like axial body is super flimsy. 2075 servo is not the best in any way, but I think it's enough for rtr car. I have bigger rc4wd tires, steel rims, some weight and still turns fine, even my UDR has plenty of power. While some cheap servos may have more torque, they tend to develop terrible play and slop in the gearing, including spektrum servos. Also relatively weak servo will not put a lot of stress on linkage and suspension
@@valuerc2664 that’s true, but when your looking to do crawling where you might get the wheels stuck on a rock or something the 2075 just doesn’t usually have it in it to get the truck out of there. I will say though that the Traxxas servos have been slowly getting better over the years.
@@MRMechanicRC yes, that's 100 correct, when you get stuck stock servo is weak. But personally I would never go with something ridiculously powerful like (true) 40 or 50kg. It will put a lot of stress on linkages and suspension. Trx4 doesn't have servo saver so a weak servo I guess is a substitute for it. I guess true 20kg servo would be a sweet spot.
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The Trx 4 line of trucks are pretty well built they can take quite a bit of "driver errors" AKA spectacular Crashes before you do real damage.i have a few axial trucks as well also good trucks,most trucks need upgrades.We will see how the base camp hold up after some use.
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Comparisons against the Sport were inevitable but I think Traxxas comes out ahead on this. Not really the point though. The Base Camp is obviously designed for beginners and as such, it has a lot going for it (ugly body aside). Where this vehicle will shine though, is as a 'base' for some crazy crawler projects that will likely surpass the SCX10 ii Builders Kit in popularity. In fact, I expect Axial to release a kit version that is bound to be the basis of plenty a comp crawler!
This is definitely going to be the next vehicle on my crawler fleet. The body is definitely "blah" but it gets the job done. I will probably beat it to hell and then slap on an RC4WD Toyota body on it.
Another challenger to the TRX4 enters and fails. TRX4 forever. Axial still wins 1/24 with SCX24. I don’t get why the Basecamp has windows that are not only not clear but light gray. It’s like Axial wants you to throw it away.
The Basecamp is $20 more than the TRX-4 Sport. If Axial/Horizon hoped to capture the trepidatious, money-conscious first-time buyer while almost asuring the purchase of both Smart Charger and Smart battery(s) as well; they failed. I WAS that "trepidatious, money-conscious" first time buyer 3 years ago. Today I have a TRX-4 Sport, several Traxxas iD batteries, an iD charger, and several sub $10 EC3, EC5 to iD adaptors.
Personally, I'm that buyer and leaning Axial, can already use the same batteries my senton and kraton use. So cheaper than the traxxas. Also Traxxas business practices are just scummy, I'd rather avoid that company anyways.
I'm always little leery of a review praising something they got for free and I know that how this works with bigger channel and stuff but do put more faith in a review from someone who bought it with their own money.
That body really is bad 😂 I almost ordered one but didn’t pull the trigger because of how cheap it looks. Seems very capable. Wish they’d paid just a little more attention to the body though.
And they still have those hood pins, BUT I'll take an SCX10 over any Traxxs. I've owned two over priced Traxxs, one was a Defender and both were junk, absolute junk and will never touch their garbage ever again. ... Just my feelings, just my rant.
Finally a good video on de Basecamp. All the other channels don't talk about the pro and cons like you do. Looking forward for part 2.
More to come!
Have to agree can't wait for part 2
I've been checking your channel for a review of the Basecamp since it came out, so I'm super glad to see this. I think this Basecamp, with its reconfigured transmission and motor placement, finally puts the SCX10 III back on the evolutionary path of its excellent two predecessors. I, too, felt that the original 10 IIIs gave up too much of the balance and simplicity that this line is known for - all for marketing features that the original pre-Horizon Hobby Axial engineers never would have chosen. I'm not necessarily in love with the body of this, but I'm super glad to see a single speed transmisson and mid/low mounted motor. Can't wait to see how it performs at your crawler park!
Evolutionary path... yes. Now this SCX10 iii has an upgrade path and can be made to do different things, especially high performance.
This video and your other base camp vs trx4 camp video is exactly what I've been looking for! Looking to purchase another crawler for my daughter. Good work
I can’t believe I have gone this whole time without subscribing. 🤦🏻♂️ just subscribed bud! Love your content!
The base camp has definitely impressed me and with a couple mods it will hang with a trx4. Props to axial and at a lower price tag. 💪🏼
I really wish someone would just come out with a Tacoma gen 3 body licensed already!!!!! Lol. Axial missed a good opportunity there I think. Make it have options for lights and some bling and it would of looked sharp and they woulda sold a shit ton! Great video as always Francis. Looking forward to the 2nd. 👍
Carisma has a new Tacoma
Both seem to be very similar in specs and performance! In my opinion, the choice for the TRX4 brings the benefits of a longer history of bullet proof construction and option parts everywhere. But in those fields the Axial has a lot of benefits too...
I have the scx10 iii jlu kit. One year later still box stock with great electronics and zero issues. Same tires as well and my friend has a few trx4s on hyrax tires and it keeps up with them with the full jlu body. Nothing has broken and we run 5 hour runs.
I just want to say thank you guys for being the first channel to cover this question..... I have never been so "underwhelmed" about an Axial release, and it looks like it was designed by committee (compared to their previous releases) I'm already tired of Horizon Hobbies' corporate bullshit, and especially considering the target market for this thing, consumers need an honest comparison. So thank you
The reversible gear is used for when you want to upgrade to the non portal axle. Remember portal axles run in reverse.
Agreed. But why not just reverse the wires? Or just reverse the motor with ESC programming or transmitter programming
@@RCReviewChannel I think it has to do with where portal axles have so much gear reduction.When you change over to straight axles and flip the gear I think it changes the gear ratio in the trans.Not for certain though.Can't wait for the comparison of the 2 trucks.
This is an entry level truck vehicle and most beginners like to work on things but never mess with electrical. As far as reversing the transmitter I would assume most beginners don’t have a programmable transmitter. I’m not sure about the boot camps stock transmitter if it has the capabilities to reverse. I don’t have a scx10 but hopefully one day.
@@RCReviewChannel I am not an expert on brushed motors, but some motors have built in advance timing, so if you run them in reverse it will be reduced timing. I believe standard 12t Traxxas has no significant advanced timing so it could run fine both directions, not really sure, on brushed erevo and emaxx they have reverse rotating 12t motor
@@RCReviewChannel Once the brushes are bedded in in one direction, the motor is much less effcient in reverse. Also, some esc's dont support reverse motor operation. That and it also changes the gearing in the transmission for more reduction when running straight axles since the portals have a good bit of reduction in them.
Miss your test and comparable videos! You do great work!
Thank you! So busy now with kids, day job and travel.
best youtuber ever
Definitely not the worst. Lolol.
I love your insight Brother. I can’t wait for the kit to come out.
Love your reviews. Haven’t found an answer to this so asking your expert advice….Is the Amewi RCX10 or the YK4103 the same as SCX2/3? Can it take Axial metal parts? I have one and can’t seem to find the metal upgrades. Would appreciate the help.
Nice video, with unbiased points of view. Both nice trucks, to improve however you wish...
As usual one of the best review of this new car.
I agree with all negative points of SCXIII, in fact I bought Gladiator only because my child like it... and finally is really cool !
I tried Proline Gladiator body... but is a toy.. too small for 1/10 chassis... a really strange mistake from Proline quality.
Fortunately I found a better RGT Gladiator like body... but in any case Axial Gladiator is really better looking.
I also agree that this cheap body is awful.. I don't understand why not place a bit more attention to the look... SCXII as many better bodies with a reasonable cost...
Thank you for all your input. Yes this light body could have been much better as axial has done good once before.
Look forward to the running test. Appreciate the honest reviews!!
Coming by the weekend
I despise Traxxas but I must admit that the TRX4 body looks better overall. On the other side The axial comes with far better electronics, just for that I'll keep the Axial. Both are still using "U" shaped frame beams... (That's funny if we think that the underrated Yikong Pro/Absima Khamba comes with one piece machined solid chassis). Not my cup of tea but acceptable to a certain degree. Good honest review and comparison, thanks. sir.
Why the hate for traxxas?
As always a great video was considering getting a base camp for my daughter thanks for these awesome videos
nice to comparecthe two
always true comments, appreciated, no free gifts
Right on, thank you. No one has really called out this body for what it is among the early receivers of this car
Ordered the Basecamp builders kit 3 months ago....still waiting on delivery in UK
I sense a little drama/tension between you and Axial based on those opening comments 😁 Nice vide, take care!
So glad you're back. You are back, right? :)
Another excellent review video! Keep em coming 👍🏻
My trx4 and several people I know came stock with metal horns. I think they started that early 2021
RTR? That's good to hear. I know the kit came with metal horns.
@@RCReviewChannel yes, mine come with metal horn and in Traxxas parts list shows that metal is stock and plastic optional. But even metal is not indestructible, me and my friend were abusing our trx4s and driving down the stairs full speed and my friend stripped metal horn, but servo is fine. I would rather change horn than entire servo
The servo arm on mine is metal. I just bought the TRX4 a week ago. I’m new to this category but isn’t it weird where the axle goes into the top portion of the portal it’s just wide open? Like the bearing is there and the CVD portion, I would think you’d want a boot there to keep dirt and stuff out.
Incredible, old TRX4 is still the best!
Great video! Was waiting for this exact video
Glad you liked it! Good news is it's a miniseries to more to come.
Is the frame still adjustable so you can shorten the wheelbase?
Excellent review ! I’ve got an element , vanquish and Trx4 sport .. gotta say the Trx is so damn capable out of the box , I wish there was more comp oriented aftermarket for it but with a NWScaler Scattergun V2 chassis you can build more comp style
I agree with you 100!
When you picked up the axial with the "oh shit" I lost it hahaha appreciate your honesty lol
Currently on the market for a crawler. Probably gonna go with a vs410 RTR
Can tell battery specifications for Axial Base Camp recommend by manufacture?
They both look great. The axial definitely has the edge as far as the details and body goes, and they have a better servo too (nothing is worse than those 2075’s 😂) but the trx4 has a better motor and esc which gives it more power and speed (and probably more control) and it has that infamous steering radius. I think the TRX4 is still king unless you want scale looks over performance.
I like the look of trx4, it looks like axial body is super flimsy. 2075 servo is not the best in any way, but I think it's enough for rtr car. I have bigger rc4wd tires, steel rims, some weight and still turns fine, even my UDR has plenty of power. While some cheap servos may have more torque, they tend to develop terrible play and slop in the gearing, including spektrum servos. Also relatively weak servo will not put a lot of stress on linkage and suspension
@@valuerc2664 that’s true, but when your looking to do crawling where you might get the wheels stuck on a rock or something the 2075 just doesn’t usually have it in it to get the truck out of there. I will say though that the Traxxas servos have been slowly getting better over the years.
@@MRMechanicRC yes, that's 100 correct, when you get stuck stock servo is weak. But personally I would never go with something ridiculously powerful like (true) 40 or 50kg. It will put a lot of stress on linkages and suspension. Trx4 doesn't have servo saver so a weak servo I guess is a substitute for it. I guess true 20kg servo would be a sweet spot.
@@valuerc2664 yeah between 20KG’s and 30KG’s is the sweet spot for sure
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The Trx 4 line of trucks are pretty well built they can take quite a bit of "driver errors" AKA spectacular
Crashes before you do real damage.i have a few axial trucks as well also good trucks,most trucks need upgrades.We will see how the base camp hold up after some use.
Yes, from our experience the TRX four will prove to be more durable. It can take almost any level of crash because it is so beefy
What is the spinning tech stand it's on?
My TRX Sport came with a metal servo horn.
What distance can its remote control stay connected?
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I need the Base Camp to compare!
My sport came with a metal servo horn. Bought it prob 3 months ago.
Comparisons against the Sport were inevitable but I think Traxxas comes out ahead on this. Not really the point though. The Base Camp is obviously designed for beginners and as such, it has a lot going for it (ugly body aside). Where this vehicle will shine though, is as a 'base' for some crazy crawler projects that will likely surpass the SCX10 ii Builders Kit in popularity. In fact, I expect Axial to release a kit version that is bound to be the basis of plenty a comp crawler!
If you do a straight axle conversion instead of the portals, you'll need to reverse the transmission
Am I tripping or did the TRX just turn twice as sharp as the axial at the end?
Not quite twice as sharp but definitely tighter, especially on the right turns.
Honest review thank you
the best policy we hear!
This is definitely going to be the next vehicle on my crawler fleet. The body is definitely "blah" but it gets the job done. I will probably beat it to hell and then slap on an RC4WD Toyota body on it.
We have an ultimate upgrades video coming soon that turns it into a beast.
Thanks for the vídeo
The reversible gear is for a straight axle swap.
The reversible gear allows for straight axles.
Another challenger to the TRX4 enters and fails. TRX4 forever. Axial still wins 1/24 with SCX24. I don’t get why the Basecamp has windows that are not only not clear but light gray. It’s like Axial wants you to throw it away.
The Basecamp is $20 more than the TRX-4 Sport. If Axial/Horizon hoped to capture the trepidatious, money-conscious first-time buyer while almost asuring the purchase of both Smart Charger and Smart battery(s) as well; they failed. I WAS that "trepidatious, money-conscious" first time buyer 3 years ago. Today I have a TRX-4 Sport, several Traxxas iD batteries, an iD charger, and several sub $10 EC3, EC5 to iD adaptors.
Personally, I'm that buyer and leaning Axial, can already use the same batteries my senton and kraton use. So cheaper than the traxxas. Also Traxxas business practices are just scummy, I'd rather avoid that company anyways.
If you switch y=to straight axle, you have to reverse the gears
79 bronco👍🏻 for me!!agree about the body looks horrible
I'm always little leery of a review praising something they got for free and I know that how this works with bigger channel and stuff but do put more faith in a review from someone who bought it with their own money.
Aside from free, there's also the privilege of getting the vehicle 1-3 months before the general public can get their hands on it
Picks up the base camp “wow shit” referring to the chassis flex 😂
Nice
Thanks
That body really is bad 😂
I almost ordered one but didn’t pull the trigger because of how cheap it looks. Seems very capable. Wish they’d paid just a little more attention to the body though.
The reason is for going to and from portal axles
Looks better without the body ....
A kit version sounds good .
Succinctly put
💯 agree body looks toy grade.
The body isn’t the point. The point is that you can buy an all around well built truck for under 400 bucks!
That axial si super flimsy. I can't believe how much the chassis flex
Yeah, you can see my surprise. I thought they were stiffer now. Maybe they went back in time? I'll investigate further.
"they dont like to hear negative things about their products...." yikes
Axial just beat trx4
The transmission is reversible so it can be used with straight axles.
True. But why not just reverse the motor wires and/or direction?
@@RCReviewChannel exactly! Never understood why they went that route.
Depending on the motor it may have some timing added in one direction.
@@discusdog good point. Every brushed or brushless motor I’ve upgraded has had adjustable timing but I can see it being useful if it’s not adjustable.
@@Cooldibs the more I think about it the stock motor is prob a cheap generic like most brushed motors only thing different is the sticker/branding
And they still have those hood pins, BUT I'll take an SCX10 over any Traxxs. I've owned two over priced Traxxs, one was a Defender and both were junk, absolute junk and will never touch their garbage ever again.
... Just my feelings, just my rant.
Junk ? Why ?