2008 Honda Civic No Crank No Start With Resolution Shows starter relay and more
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- I had a problem with my starter and a bad test result from an auto parts store that forced me to check the starter system of the car. Here I show how to check the starter relay, ignition switch and trace the wires in the car plus the test the starter yourself if necessary.
Shout out to the other 100k people driving 08 civics
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My sister just drove her 08 civic coupe 9 hours from San Antonio Texas to north Mississippi hers does this and I have referred her to the standard brand of relays for replacement from. eBay avoid the stealership her civic has only a little over 100,000 K miles and it’s a stick not a automatic 😂
The starter is a pain to swap I’m having issues starting mine going to try swapping out relays tomorrow to see if that resolves the issue
I love how you don't curse at all. I'm going through this same thing with my si. Dropped about 100 f bombs, punched my started, threatened the car. Still having the same issue. #getthestrap
Yes, it can be super frustrating. I hope you get it sorted out soon.
@@goddom mine turned out to be the clutch safety switch. (Pushing clutch in to start the car). I just cut and spliced those wires together and she fired right up! Your video was awesome appreciate all your help man!
I am glad you got it sorted out! I was definitely cursing the car, to because it took me a few weeks to figure it out since I thought the new starter was good. But I was much happier when I figured it out and made the video:-)
@mattdunningg33 bro I’m the same way 🤣🤣🤣. I give my car the finger like it’s going to feel bad and fix itself 😂😂
J. J dude sometimes it can be something as insignificant as a fuse. And its stupid because you dont realize it until your done taring the car apart 😂
Very good video sir. Clear, concise and informative. Thankyou for NO MUSIC!!! Please keep em coming. Your very helpful.
Thank you!
Thanks for the chain of troubleshooting man! If you have 12v at the red wire when turning the key, then the entire system excluding the starter is good. Very smart troubleshooting.
Thanks for sharing! I have a 08' as well & happy the same thing going on. This helps so much as to when there wasn't internet. Greatly appreciated!
Thank you for the video, I found it helpful!! BTW, like MattDunning33 mentioned, I also appreciate that you never used foul language in your video. Wish more people were like that.
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Hey man, I’m having trouble with my 07Si and I think it’s the ignition switch. What happened to me is that the turning the key to II will turn on dash light but when attempting to start, it would shut off (all of it: dash light, door light, hazard, everything etc) do you think it’s the ignition or alternator?
Alternator would mean your battery is dead. You can get your battery tested at a part store, but you have to make sure its charged up first. Your symptoms could be an ignition switch if it does this same thing multiple times in a row.
Mine wouldn't start this morning. She's parked in a 7 eleven parking spot. I couldn't see how to tap the starter without jacking it up n taking the wheel off. But I heard that whirring sound several times before n def coming from near that panel.maybe my relay just crapped out?
Well explained and detailed illustrations.
Thanks for posting this, it was helpful in diagnosing that my starter really was the problem. And no, it wasn't an easy repair job- removing the old starter was a pain but learning how to do it made installing the new starter a breeze.
I am glad it helped!
Excellent..I got this issue now with my 2006 honda civic
I just had this problem in my 2008 civic ex and it was actually not the starter for me. I spent 600$ on a starter replacement at a shop only to find out the problem was actually just a sensor called the clutch safety switch(makes sure your clutch is pressed in before car will start) please nobody make the mistake I made of buying a starter without verifying all other possibilities I am down a bunch of money when all I needed was a 20$ sensor I could have installed myself.
honda mans I had the same problem with my RSX my first manual car n the screw came out that press the button
Was this on an auto or manual?
To be clear you said if the light goes off when you're in the start position ?
On mine the light come on in the start position.
thanks man, a lot of good info here and everything torn apart is great to see whats inside my car and how to fix it.
Glad I can help!
@@goddom I got this issue but I can get it to start mainly with the valet key moreso than regular key. I sorta jerk the wheel and bounce a couple times and the engine starts. Its ridiculous and I just bought the entire assembly plus a switch and a couple relays from amazon....can return everything if need be love it. We'll see. Thank you so much.
this was bang on to finding my problem! mine happened to be wiring under the dash that went to my command start! saved me tons of money! A+
Glad I could help!
Matthew Eddy probably a stretch you seeing this. I have a 2009 Honda Civic si and it has the same issue (no crank no start) that only happens after the car has been driven and turned off. It starts 30 mins later. I recently put in a new starter and it’s still having that issue. I notice that when I bang on the dash or surrounding areas hard as heck, it cranks right up. What could it be. Response will be greatly appreciated.
@@dmvchillin09 sounds loke your nutural safety switch
@@myork2588 how u reset that my friend
Terrible Tf you had to correct yourself to many times this super confusing
I am from UP of Michigan...I can definitely sympathize with working on cars in cold weather!!!😀
LOL, yes, you probably more than me!
I had the same thing on a 98 Lexus ES300. Got a new starter, installed it and the car started one time and then wouldn't start again. I was perplexed. Took the starter back to the parts store and it was bad.. Got a new one and TESTED it before leaving the parts store and it has been fine since.. Frustrating to a novice mechanic..
Its crazy to think that you can buy a new part that is bad. I guess no manufacturing process is perfect and duds slip through but it can be frustrating!
Mine was ignition switch. Was driving me nuts
Dealing with this as well on my FG2 Civic si. I replaced the Starter and alternator, lasted for 3 months, battery has been new and struggled to start with my key icon flashing, re programmed key and got a CEL p0658 and p0172 which went away after I replaced some fuses and the new fuel pump was replaced… come to start yesterday, no start but after cranking, fuse relay start clicking which I felt was my P/W relay…
You help me a lot , thanks sir
Mine was a fuel pump failure
Starter o, main relay or gas pump..
Very informative did not or could not find starter relay and hardly anyone recommends to check ignition switch. Too many check battery check alternator. I've checked all those. And starter. Car works fine with starter jumped from battery starts right up and alternator charges. I'll check relay tomorrow and switch
hi .today i noticed on my civic 2006 that starter does not crank att all .battery new .starter ok .i shifted gear on power light on position from park to downshift and again and it starts .any idea?
There is a sensor that determines if the car is in park or not before it will start. I think it might be in the center console. It could be dirty or just needing to be replaced. That is where I would start. I hope this helps.
Dude I don't know if this will help me but you really did a nice thorough review of the entire setup so I appreciate it thank you I'll let you know how it goes in my situation I put a new battery in and then it was running fine and then suddenly it stopped again I never had clicking though so it's just like it's just not enough to turn the car over
Thanks! Big help, my Civic FD aren't cranking, same scenerion in you're video, now I got the idea, many thanks Sir.
I have a 2008 honda civic all of a sudden it stopped working, I got a new battery and a new starter and still nothing and I also got a new main fuse 100/70 one and still doesn’t turn on what else could I check?
Where can I find a replacement starter relay for this same problem? I am positive that’s my problem because I just replaced my starter last summer. I just cannot seem to find anyone who sells it online. 2008 Civic LX 1.8 L
I usually get my parts are Rockauto. They have the starter relay - STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS RY737
I was also able to get one at the local parts store.
I hope this helps.
Hiw many miles you had when you replaced the starter? Also did you replace the starter relay and does it start normally now?
My 2006 is having similar problems . I turn key and I just hear one clank like click ... battery is good. Im checking the things u stated today
Same problem
More than likely the starter.
Matthew Eddy found out my air compressor locked up
I have a 2008 Honda Accord with this same issue. Just had the battery replaced by Honda though. Definitely gonna have to get my starter, and ignition switch checked.
If it seems to be struggling to turn the engine over - even with a new battery - that is generally a sign the starter might be going out. Hopefully you don't need a new starter or ignition switch.
@@goddom Yeah I'm gonna get it looked at this weekend!
How many miles on your car at the time ?
Thanks, man. Very helpful!
I have a 2013 civic once in a while it won't start but when I turn the key off and and into run position 2nd or sometimes the 3rd time it starts. You think it's the alternator?
I don't think so, the alternator charges the battery, and if your battery isn't charging or id dying all the time, then it might be the alternator. Based on the description, I think looking at the ignition switch is where I would start. I am assuming that the car doesn't crank at all when you first try to start it?
I have same issue. How did you solve your problem?
@@steveb319 replaced starter problem solved.
@@Joe-if5rq Thanks for responding.
I had issues of it starting on 2nd or third try of starting , it worked that way for a couple of weeks , but then no start at all , i change altenator and put in new battery , good for 6 mnths , now same issue is going on
Alt is putting out charge for battery , 14+ , and when car is off theres 12+ volts , when i go to start the engine tries to turn over but its very weak then nothing
@@MrSanto19586 Probably a dying starter if the battery is new and since it cranks a little bit, its not the starter relay. The starters on these cars are known for dying.
Hey my car could start but now its not starting anymore and the little key icon flickers.i can confirm it switches on. It was in an accident. It doesn't click when i try to start it. It tries to start but it sounds like its missing
Sorry for the late reply. Hmmmm, it kind of sounds like a bad battery, but its hard to say.
Thanks..That helps with my no crank no start be safe stay warm.
Excellent! Glad it helped!
very good informative video. Thank you
My honda Civic 2007 wont start, the Electrician try to deigonize it but it's say chech immobilizer, i have change more that 10 immobilizer yet the computer not programme it. i need help pls.
Thank you, this is helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
thank you it is really good
I have a honda civic 2007, 145k miles. I got new alternator, battery and even starter because it won’t start. After 2 days all the lights come on but won’t start but couple of tries later it started. It happens frequently and my mechanic also does not have any idea about this problem. What might be the problem?
All the lights come on? You may want to check the new starter
I've been having intermittent no crank no starts. One day it'll start 20 times and then all of a sudden I got nothing. Did yours do this when you first had the problem?
No, but that's a pretty common symptom of the starter dying. Mine just didn't work one day. If your battery seems strong, and the wires to the starter seem like they are in good shape, its probably the starter. You can try replacing the relay and see if that helps, but relays tend to outlive starters.
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same with me. random difficult starting. banging the starter didnt work either
mine just stopped working. wont turn over just 1 click. second starter in like 4 months
Great video sir
Thank you!
Huge help! Thank you!!
All data $20 for each car . Chilton's is useless trash
Agreed, I will never buy a Chiltons again. lol
Doing in the hot is worse bro lol
LOL, yeah, crawling under a car when its hot and humid is pretty miserable!
Thanks Man :)
My civic starts without putting the key in when I connect the battery
Does it keep cranking even after it starts? If so, I am thinking your ignition switch is stuck in the "start" position and would need to be replaced.
@@goddom no it just cranks then starts the car without the key I dunno why.. it only happens after connecting the negative cable to the battery
My honda city zx car wont start after running few time.. any solution please?
If the battery is good, then its probably the starter.
well explained and clear . Which is the most important . Thank you!
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¡excelente! me alegra que te haya ayudado
Cant resolve my issue of No Crank. I am able to reproduce it by running the car for about 10 mins., then waiting for about 15 mins, then I get No Crank. If I wait about 2-3 hours, then it Cranks.
I followed your video, but stuck as to what to check next. Here is where I am: I am NOT getting a light when testing the connection behind master cylinder (@3:29), but I AM getting a light on the yellow wire (@4:37 ) at the fuse panel box under driver side panel. I removed the fuses in the Main Fuse and the Ignition Fuse in the panel box under the hood (@7:10) and tested them for continuity and they tested good, but still no Crank.
Do you hear a click from the starter relay? That's the main component from the yellow wire to the red wire that would go out and relays can go out intermittently like that.
@@goddom I do not hear any click at the starter relay. I do hear the fuel pump priming though.
BTW, mine is a 2009 Civic LX 1.8L Auto. , 187K. I swapped the relays in the interior fuse box that were the same, so I think the relay is good??
Try swapping out that blue one in the middle just above the yellow light. Its possible I misidentified the starter relay and its actually the middle one.
@@goddom Now that the car has been sitting for a while, it cranks and runs. I checked the black relay, the one you mentioned in the video, and its written ST.CUT next to it. I pulled it out, and the car will NOT Crank without it in. So you did Identify it correctly.
Show us how to fix.
Thank you. You gave me some ideas and I found a solution. Greetings from Costa Rica.
My brains gonna explode. Ur example for what it sounds like when the battery dies is whats happening to my car.. but my battery is fine..
If your battery is fine then it is probably the starter. What are your symptoms?
@@goddom my 2009 honda crv.. when I start the car. It CLICKS but does not crank. And before this happened.. the car would crank slowly or not at all but then would finnaly start. But now it's just click and no crank. I cleaned the terminals and checked battery and checked relays. Everything looks good. So I think its the starter :(
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Sorry meant to say starter. If it sits overnight it never starts first try but always 2nd try . Once in a while it won't start first try but always second or 3rd try. Sometimes I won't start first try like if I go to the store but but 90percent of time will start second time always 3rd time.
What do you mean by "try"? The engine cranks but doesn't start or nothing happens until you try 2nd or 3rd time?
@@goddom when I go start the engine sometimes on the first start up nothing dead. But usually on second start up it starts. Sometimes when you first start the car it hesitates before it sarts
Hmmm, if I am reading this right, you try and start it, and nothing happens - it doesn't crank. Then you try again and it does crank. I am assuming all the lights on the dash come on? I think its the starter, but if I were you, just to be safe, check the ignition switch. In the video I show you how to check the wire that is coming into the engine bay in front of the driver. I would check it there real quick. If you get 12v at that wire when the key is in teh "start" position then the ignition switch, and relay are all good. I hope this helps!
@@goddom thank you greatly appreciate your help
I was hoping to see where the starter is located at. I am searching the Internet but I can't see any one show the location of the starter
Its on the back side of the engine tucked up under the intake manifold. There are two wire clips that need to be unclipped. Then two bolts, one on bottom, and one on top. Once those are undone, you can pull the starter out a little, unclip the solenoid wire then unbolt the positive power wire. There are a few videos that show this. I used this one: th-cam.com/video/ChurcA2Ymjs/w-d-xo.html
And this one: th-cam.com/video/edOFAzqowds/w-d-xo.html
Oh and there is a bracket under the intake that needs to be removed. I removed the exhaust pipe as shown in the second video link and it helped a lot.
Hey there is a few videos on youtube that show...Ive recently been having the same issue and found a video
th-cam.com/video/WEfjBv2DTxo/w-d-xo.html is the location of the starter...someone else also has an 8 minute video showing on how to replace it yourself....you need a car lift though! goodluck I'm still diagnosing mine.
Thank you for posting, the same thing happened to my 2009 civic. I did 6 battery, alternator, and starter diagnostic test at autozone and advance auto parts over the the last couple week I noticed the problem. All diagnostic tests came back normal. I went with my gut feeling, I replaced the starter, and it starts better than new!
Great video. I have a 2009 CR-V that I just bought for my 16 year old daughter. Same problem you described but I haven't solved it yet. I bought a new starter but when I pulled the old one, I noticed that it is brand new. So, I had O'Reilly's Auto Parts test the starter and they said it was good. I reinstalled it. The battery is good , full charge, I replaced the cabin starter cutout relay just because and I replaced the ignition switch just because. I checked the immobilizer and it is good. When I turn the key, I do here the cabin relay click, but nothing else. I did look at the fusible links and they are all fine. Is the starter really bad?
It seems like it. The last check is to make sure the wire going to the starter is seeing power, but I would probably bench test it with jumpers like I did in the video to be sure. But be very careful if you do that.
@@goddom I towed my daughters CR-V to a local garage that I use. 3 hours of testing and they don’t know what the problem is. Asked me to approve $300 more for high level diagnostics, they think the ECM is bad but it throws no codes.
@@BourbonDrinker Did you ever discover the issue?
@@goatsmakesoapco.9113 It was the control module. Cost me $2200 to replace with a new one and have it programmed. I also replaced the starter since I already bought a new one. I had replaced every part of the starter system except the control module. I brought it to a garage and they confirmed the module was bad. I tell you, Hondas are not built as well as Toyotas.
@@BourbonDrinker Wow! I’m not there yet, but the ignition switch and starter has been replaced and I have nothing…
Where can i get a starter relay?
Rocauto. I usually buy most of my car parts there. Usually cheaper than anywhere else even though you have to pay shipping. www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=2414630&cc=1441749&jsn=846
You video really helped me especially the part where you bench test the new starter before installing it. The new one i bought was also bad, thank heavens i bench tested it first before trying to install it. It was was also bad so i had to return it and get another new one. Also all your pre-test instructions before removing the old starter also helped. Thanks a lot my brother.. you saved me a ton of time.
Awesome, I am glad I could help and I am happy that you tested the starter before installing it!
Thanks man .you fix my car today ..u did all the work for me
Glad I could help!
You're awesome. Thank you
So, if I’m getting continuity at the red wire, it’s narrowed down to the starter or battery? Battery tested good. No start is intermittent, hot or cold, nothing on key turn, no clicking or anything. Try it a couple times, then usually it will fire right up.
Correct, and it's likely your starter that's dead.
Matthew Eddy I’m at such a loss. Replaced starter, same problem. Got a brand new battery and it worked great for a few days, but the problem has resurfaced. I also cleaned the positive and negative terminals and grounds, with no change. This issue is driving me crazy. It seems to no-start worse when it’s cold outside, 30* F for example. What happens is first couple tries you get NOTHING. Then the next few tries you get the click/buzz from under the dash, but nothing from the starter. Then finally it will randomly fire off the starter and start like nothing is wrong.
@@racer89gt To me, the click-buzz sounds like an issue with the relay or the ignition switch. You might have a bad connection in there that is intermittent. I don't either of them as super expensive you might want to try changing out whichever is cheapest first. I hate suggesting just replacing things until its fixed, but this might be hard to diagnose with with just a multimeter.
Matthew Eddy yeah that’s why this is puzzling. I put in a new ignition switch and had the exact same problem. Put the factory one back in. Are there any relays other than the one under the dash I should look at?
Matthew Eddy not sure how this plays in, but we lived in Texas prior, and didn’t have any issues until we moved to Montana.
U can grind😂😂😂😂
How many miles do you guys have when you replace the starter? Im at 156k mi
I probably had about 125k on mine before it went. I guess its a weak spot for the car. A buddy of mine put 450k on his car without changing anything other than the oil.
Gary L they got out around 70/80k
167k
@@goddomdid your car at first try to start then nothing then tries to start again then nothing nothing still nothing?? I thought it was my battery because my battery light was on, then this old man put a charger on the battery revving up to a 75 amps for my 12 volt battery he did it again and again he charger needle was going haywire ?? I said oh no he is going to make my altenator go bad, that Big charger was vibrating with loud noise like vibrating humming noises I said Please Stop before this makes things worse he said; try to start again do it again, like he was forcing it and Now after all that it is SILENT does NOTHING AT ALL ??!!! I TOOK BATTERY INTO Advance Auto they TEST and THEY SAID IT WAS ALL GOOD !! WHEN THE LIGHTS WORK BATTERY IS GOOD THE
DOOR MAKES DINGING SOUNDS AND HEADLIGHTS WORK- WHAT ELSE COULD OF HAPPENED Only 98,OOO on my 08 Honda Civic it's Automatic my question is does this starter gradually happen or happen all a sudden? Mine has been Sluggish too a little now and then driving along and a few times it refused to start, then it would on a 2nd try I thought maybe it was normal from the plastic Skid Plate that had to be cut out because it came loose while driving and was dragging the ground getting caught in my tires, I seen it's happened with many cars that darn skid plate !!! Anyway maybe that has Nothing to do with this problem idk? I also used the "flex fuel" in it when we had a Gas Shortage- I was told using One Time would Not hurt my car it takes a reg grade gas, I'm Soo confused ? And, btw your Awesome I love your video, your so detail-oriented explaining everything not to mention your kind talk that's BEST of All "No Foul Language" at all I love ❤️ Your Video You Make A Wonderful Mentor 👍👍!!! Thanks So Much!!!!😊🌈❤️🌈❤️🌈
Lots of good info, thanks!
I had no click or anything and replaced my starter and still nothing. I’ll have a look at the ignition switch and relay switch tomorrow before I remove the dang thing to check its connection
Thks man big help
Any idea where the starter relay is? Can I bypass the relay
I show where the relay is in the video. If you think that it may be the issue you can find a similar relay in the car and swap them out. If that fixes the issue then buy a replacement relay.
Can a bad main relay cause your car to stall and then turn off while driving?
Yes, its possible.
I really appreciate your feedback, thank you so much for responding.
Well done video! Nice pace and very clear.
2007 Honda Civic Ex (California) new starter installed, it was working fine for 2 days now it takes 5 start ups for it to start, it’s quiet when I try to turn it on, all the lights and radio work… 🥲