The thing is though, would you rather me edit stuff like this out and not be honest? I pride my channel and reviews on showing a true reflection of a product, that’s why I leave this stuff in.
@@TomVoyageuk I think it great you didn't edit it out. Honesty is the best policy. I just watched another of your videos and I am pleased I subscribed. Keep up the great work Tom. All the best from Melbourne, Australia.
@@TomVoyageuk even though it says to preheat for 20 minutes - if you preheat for an hour you will get a nicely browned bottom. If you are doing a lot of pizzas you may need to preheat again in between. I feel this did not give a very accurate representation of just how good this oven it. Yours looked very under done.
Nice video, Tom. Thank you very much. This looks good as it does a range of things. I have an offset smoker. It takes ages to cook ribs, and needs a lot of maintenance during the cook. I'd like to see how well this does ribs. Would you consider trying that?
I have the same oven, and my bottom crust gets cooked very nicely.That bottom was not cooked. Maybe you need to let it heat longer or the second pizza should come out excellent. Or maybe the fan inside the oven is not working. Try it again because it's a VERY NICE Oven.
I feel like I should reassure people and add to this really good review - there’s a way to superheat the stone. Preheat on Artisan. Restart the unit and give it 10 on ‘top heat’ with nothing in. This blasts the stone, worked for me a treat !! Well above 370 degrees !
Good video mate, I use one of these for my pizza business and it takes a bit of sussing to get it right but I’m getting mega results and 3 minute cooks. I’m looking to try one of these big Ooni next as I need to produce more to keep up with busy days (I’ve only just started the business so used what I already had). Keen to find out how I’d cope having to turn the pizzas while trying to talk to customers and make the next pizza too😅
Cool oven, the stone needs to be hotter for sure for a better cooked base. Wonder if the settings would allow you to preheat longer to get the stone hotter? I think that would be a good settings to have. Other than that it looks well built.
I just bought one of these , I done a pizza yesterday on Neapolitan style and it came out much crispier than yours , it was chared all the way around the edges and delicious. But I’m guessing the dough I used may have been different.
Thank you for this review , May 2024 , much appreciated, I’ve been cooking for 50 years lol but always looking for different ideas. Just ordered this today…again thank you 😊
Thanks for this. Mine has just arrived and I was a little wary about using it for the first time, but as that was your first use, it seemed pretty impressive. I wonder if pre-heating for longer would assist in a crispier base on the 2 min bake. I'll use a laser thermometer on the stone as I guess it is possible that the air temp is 370⁰ but maybe the stone takes longer to get up there?
@@TomVoyageuk thank you (really) for replying, once I'd asked I did see a good few comments mentioned they do, however, I do have another question now I've unboxed it etc etc. I bought it on a QVC offer, which was cheaper than the alternative on Ninja website (cover and peel included). But, there's loads of "trolleys" that would be fine on Amazon, all stainless or plenty of plastic, maybe 2/3 the cost of the actual Ninja one. I like the height adjustable, but not sure it is mandatory, but, at last to the question, has the Ninja trolley got bespoke indentations to securely hold the oven, or is it just flat like any 3rd party trolley would be? Thank you, and, again thank you for actually replying.
cook the pizza stone on the highest temp for 1 cycle first then your pizza with the temps adjusted and smoke, and you will get your crispy base you want :)
I realised that Ireland isn't a good place for a pellet pizza oven after buying a cheap one last year and not getting much out of it due to the weather. The versatility of this one makes it an interesting offering as one appliance for multiple uses, keeping in mind that specialised appliances will always be better. You said that it comes with table but the table is a separate accessory and a rather pricey one for £150.
He told us at the beginning of the video that the company gifted him the Ninja oven and accessories. He didn't imply that those items actually came standard with the oven purchase. You just misunderstood.
Happy New Year, that was a big flop once the bottom was exposed. That stone needs to be much much hotter but you already know that. Would love to see same bake with the stone preheated for 40 minutes
Yes, i do prefer a better bake on the bottom and would leave the stone longer next time. to be fair when we filed the insta vids for this oven i did get a better result, but you never know what you're going to get when filming on the day! Still i like to keep the channel real and show the genuine result of what happened on the day, that way people can know what to expect and prepare. Thanks for watching!
Hi Tom, I just bought my oven and your videos are very helpful. I purchased a book a Ninja woodfire recipe book, but its confusing me a little. The first thing we cooked in our oven was a lovely rack of ribs, it took three hours and they were perfect, infact the best ribs we have ever had. Looking through the book its saying 12 hours!? Wow! Also the book is giving recipes to broil, is this anything you have done in your oven?
Hi, thanks for watching. Actually no i have only used this oven for pizza so far as thats the main content i make on the channel, and the family don't eat so much smoked meats either. To be honest, i would check out some FB groups as those a re a good place to get this kind of advice.
My first concern was that the extension lead was still rolled up, I'm not aware of how much power that oven requires but I'd bet you that the extension lead was getting hot. Read the instructions people they are there to ensure your safety and any extension lead should be fully unwound before use.
Im looking to buy some decent pizza oven to make some Neapolitan style pizzas and others . I found 2 ovens in reasonable price , one is Ninja Brand new for 170£ and second one Ooni Koda 12 Gas (nearly new for 150£ ) which one you would take ? Also happy to hear other people’s opinions.
I would go Ooni Koda 12, as you’ll get much hotter temps and better results for Neapolitan style pizza. The ninja is good but it’s an all rounder to bake roast bbq and smoke as well as do pizza, but the Ooni is dedicated to pizza and will deliver very good pizza!
Happy New Year, Tom. Honestly, the pizza look underwhelming, the base especially (seems undercooked to me). I guess that's the tradeoff when the oven is a jack of all trades not a dedicated pizza oven. I'll stick with my Ooni!
Happy NY to you too! Its a shame, i think a longer stone heat up time would have helped, but really 370c is at the cooler end of where dough needs to be cooked for Neapolitan style, would do a lower hydration next time for longer, maybe 60-65%, rather than 70%
Havent asked me to review it, anyway they sent this to me to review it. Also loved the base reveal....visibly see him dying a little inside. Yeah that not cooked!
A few people commented on this, but my videos are a true reflection of a product. Id rather show it how it is with a real reaction, rather then edited it out and re do the cook
The pizza seems not crispy at all as when you cook in real fire .. it just seems like a frozen pizza oven cooked .. I use a wood fire pizza oven which is super basic and I was interested in the ninja but I think it’s not really a match for real wood fire pizza 😔
Because it was cooked, the dough was not raw, if it was it would stick to the stone. I agree with you, the base is less 'done' than i and many people like, but i wanted to leave the pause in because this reflects a real situation, it would have been easy to cut, change settings and re do a pizza, but i pride my channel on being authentic and genuine.
The dough will not brown until all the moisture has left the dough. Once you get much over 65% hydration you’ll end up overcooking the toppings before the crust spots or browns. Too little moisture and the crust can be tough to chew. Ther’s a balance to be achieved depending on the flour and the hydration to get a good result.
@samuelpottage @metrobar3367 you guys are both idiots. Literally he said seconds after he likes it a bit more well done. Dumb people always trying to stir up problems
The instructions said between 7 and 15mins so by say 12 was halfway he meant between the 7 and 15 did you know 5 out 3 people in the uk don’t listen properly 😂
Lol. You lost me when your face expression said the base is undercooked, but your words said otherwise . A pizza shouod be ready in 60-90 seconds. This oven is a dud for the price. Just say it, even if you got it for free
A few people commented on this, but my videos are a true reflection of a product. Id rather show it how it is with a real reaction, rather then edited it out and re do the cook
Nice attempt Ninja, but this seems like it's trying too hard to be a Jack of all trades and is just a master of none. For the cost, just get an OG Ooni Karu 12 and $100 worth of various fuels or the gas adapter.
Thanks for watching, i guess it comes down to what you want, do you want a dedicated pizza oven or something that can grill, smoke and bake too. for some people with limited space i can see there being a place in the market for this type of oven.
I liked that long pause when Tom noticed the uncooked base hahaha
The thing is though, would you rather me edit stuff like this out and not be honest? I pride my channel and reviews on showing a true reflection of a product, that’s why I leave this stuff in.
@@TomVoyageuk I think it great you didn't edit it out. Honesty is the best policy. I just watched another of your videos and I am pleased I subscribed. Keep up the great work Tom. All the best from Melbourne, Australia.
@@TomVoyageuk even though it says to preheat for 20 minutes - if you preheat for an hour you will get a nicely browned bottom. If you are doing a lot of pizzas you may need to preheat again in between. I feel this did not give a very accurate representation of just how good this oven it. Yours looked very under done.
He should have done 3 mins that what I do base looks way better
Nice video, Tom. Thank you very much.
This looks good as it does a range of things. I have an offset smoker. It takes ages to cook ribs, and needs a lot of maintenance during the cook. I'd like to see how well this does ribs. Would you consider trying that?
I have the same oven, and my bottom crust gets cooked very nicely.That bottom was not cooked. Maybe you need to let it heat longer or the second pizza should come out excellent. Or maybe the fan inside the oven is not working. Try it again because it's a VERY NICE Oven.
Thanks for watching!
It’s so interesting that the UK version heats up so much quicker than the US due to your voltage. Great video
Ah that is interesting! I didn’t know that? Do you use 110v in USA? It’s 230/240 here
@@TomVoyageuk Yeah I'd want the UK version even though I'm in US :D. You can make 240 volts work here if you're willing to buy some adapters.
I feel like I should reassure people and add to this really good review - there’s a way to superheat the stone. Preheat on Artisan. Restart the unit and give it 10 on ‘top heat’ with nothing in. This blasts the stone, worked for me a treat !! Well above 370 degrees !
Great tip! Thanks for sharing!
Sounds like additional steps that should not be needed.
Two clicks but yes it’s an additional step - but optimising anything is what it’s all about 🍕👍
And then you just put pizza inside or you have to return to Artisan and after that pizza in? Thanks.
Good video mate, I use one of these for my pizza business and it takes a bit of sussing to get it right but I’m getting mega results and 3 minute cooks. I’m looking to try one of these big Ooni next as I need to produce more to keep up with busy days (I’ve only just started the business so used what I already had). Keen to find out how I’d cope having to turn the pizzas while trying to talk to customers and make the next pizza too😅
Cool oven, the stone needs to be hotter for sure for a better cooked base. Wonder if the settings would allow you to preheat longer to get the stone hotter? I think that would be a good settings to have. Other than that it looks well built.
The top looked good but that base looks very underdone. The lack of a window seems like a big drawback for this oven.
Can you recommend a portable, collapsible table for this model?
I just bought one of these , I done a pizza yesterday on Neapolitan style and it came out much crispier than yours , it was chared all the way around the edges and delicious. But I’m guessing the dough I used may have been different.
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Thanks Tom, Happy New Year.
Happy new year!
Great helpful advice. Thank you
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Thank you for this review , May 2024 , much appreciated, I’ve been cooking for 50 years lol but always looking for different ideas. Just ordered this today…again thank you 😊
Thanks for this. Mine has just arrived and I was a little wary about using it for the first time, but as that was your first use, it seemed pretty impressive. I wonder if pre-heating for longer would assist in a crispier base on the 2 min bake. I'll use a laser thermometer on the stone as I guess it is possible that the air temp is 370⁰ but maybe the stone takes longer to get up there?
Yes next time I would leave it to heat up longer
@@TomVoyageuk thank you (really) for replying, once I'd asked I did see a good few comments mentioned they do, however, I do have another question now I've unboxed it etc etc.
I bought it on a QVC offer, which was cheaper than the alternative on Ninja website (cover and peel included).
But, there's loads of "trolleys" that would be fine on Amazon, all stainless or plenty of plastic, maybe 2/3 the cost of the actual Ninja one. I like the height adjustable, but not sure it is mandatory, but, at last to the question, has the Ninja trolley got bespoke indentations to securely hold the oven, or is it just flat like any 3rd party trolley would be?
Thank you, and, again thank you for actually replying.
Very nice, I go with 3 minutes at 700F comes out perfect
Good tip, thank you
cook the pizza stone on the highest temp for 1 cycle first then your pizza with the temps adjusted and smoke, and you will get your crispy base you want :)
Thanks
I realised that Ireland isn't a good place for a pellet pizza oven after buying a cheap one last year and not getting much out of it due to the weather. The versatility of this one makes it an interesting offering as one appliance for multiple uses, keeping in mind that specialised appliances will always be better.
You said that it comes with table but the table is a separate accessory and a rather pricey one for £150.
He told us at the beginning of the video that the company gifted him the Ninja oven and accessories. He didn't imply that those items actually came standard with the oven purchase. You just misunderstood.
Let's hope the weather is better this year! Sorry for the confusion over the table 👍🍕
Thank you clarifying 👍🍕
Did you get the ninja cover and does it fit properly ?
Happy New Year, that was a big flop once the bottom was exposed. That stone needs to be much much hotter but you already know that. Would love to see same bake with the stone preheated for 40 minutes
Yes, i do prefer a better bake on the bottom and would leave the stone longer next time. to be fair when we filed the insta vids for this oven i did get a better result, but you never know what you're going to get when filming on the day!
Still i like to keep the channel real and show the genuine result of what happened on the day, that way people can know what to expect and prepare. Thanks for watching!
Great video. I've noticed the pellet tray pulls out to clean
Yes it does, think this is a good feature because pellets can let off a bit of sticky residue over time
We preheat ours for 20 minutes and cook for 3 minutes. We smoked a pork butt and it turned out great. Agree the oven would be better with a window.
Thank you for posting this and making this video, it stopped me from wasting $500.
Thanks for watching
Hi Tom, I just bought my oven and your videos are very helpful. I purchased a book a Ninja woodfire recipe book, but its confusing me a little. The first thing we cooked in our oven was a lovely rack of ribs, it took three hours and they were perfect, infact the best ribs we have ever had. Looking through the book its saying 12 hours!? Wow! Also the book is giving recipes to broil, is this anything you have done in your oven?
Hi, thanks for watching. Actually no i have only used this oven for pizza so far as thats the main content i make on the channel, and the family don't eat so much smoked meats either. To be honest, i would check out some FB groups as those a re a good place to get this kind of advice.
12 hours cook time = too much money on electricity .
I made a pizza and when I took it out I noticed what looked to be bearings inside . Anyone know what it could be from ?
Hey, I would probably contact Ninja directly about this i'm not sure, sorry!
Hi, nice video! Could you tell me if a 32 cm pizza pan would fit into the oven?
The stone size is 30x30cm, so it might just be a little too big to fit
@@TomVoyageukthank you for your quick response. Have a nice day!
Great review, did the oven take long to cool down? After cooking could you cover within 10, 20, 30 minutes?
Thank you! From memory it took about 45 mins to cool down
My first concern was that the extension lead was still rolled up, I'm not aware of how much power that oven requires but I'd bet you that the extension lead was getting hot. Read the instructions people they are there to ensure your safety and any extension lead should be fully unwound before use.
Does anyone actually fully extend an extension lead before using it though??
@@TomVoyageuk well we know you don't and I do because I understand the dangers.
@@Crazy_Dave not so crazy after all then Dave?
@@TomVoyageuk crazy but not stupid. 😁
Im looking to buy some decent pizza oven to make some Neapolitan style pizzas and others . I found 2 ovens in reasonable price , one is Ninja Brand new for 170£ and second one Ooni Koda 12 Gas (nearly new for 150£ ) which one you would take ? Also happy to hear other people’s opinions.
I would go Ooni Koda 12, as you’ll get much hotter temps and better results for Neapolitan style pizza. The ninja is good but it’s an all rounder to bake roast bbq and smoke as well as do pizza, but the Ooni is dedicated to pizza and will deliver very good pizza!
thank you mate !@@TomVoyageuk
Happy New Year, Tom. Honestly, the pizza look underwhelming, the base especially (seems undercooked to me). I guess that's the tradeoff when the oven is a jack of all trades not a dedicated pizza oven. I'll stick with my Ooni!
Happy NY to you too! Its a shame, i think a longer stone heat up time would have helped, but really 370c is at the cooler end of where dough needs to be cooked for Neapolitan style, would do a lower hydration next time for longer, maybe 60-65%, rather than 70%
Mine was undercooked too. Top was burning while crust under.
Havent asked me to review it, anyway they sent this to me to review it. Also loved the base reveal....visibly see him dying a little inside. Yeah that not cooked!
Thanks for watching
How many watt? Some website show 1700w other show 2400w. What do you have?
1760 Watts i believe
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What if you let it cook for another 20 seconds? The base might have been cooked perfectly.
Probably but then you risk over cooking or burning the top. I think the next time the best thing to do is let the stone heat up for longer
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Was in 2 minds as to get this or not, after seeing this and that raw base I'm going for something else.
Are you cooking just pizza or a bit of everything?
370 is not hot enough for traditional Neapolitan pizza… even at 370c.
How do you empty the pellet box?
It empty’s itself as the pellets burn
But the pellet basket can be removed, so knock out the ash
@@TomVoyageuk How do I remove the ashes?
@@TomVoyageuk how?
Happy New Year Tom. FIRST!!
Happy new year!
The pellets supplied by ninja are naff , they are causing the tar issues in the hopper . Buy better alternate ones and it’ll be much better 👍
Thanks for the comment. I did notice a lot of tar on the hopper too, but didn’t try other brands of pellets
if eyes could say FFS yours did when you saw the base. No big deal just leave it on a bit longer .
A few people commented on this, but my videos are a true reflection of a product. Id rather show it how it is with a real reaction, rather then edited it out and re do the cook
@@TomVoyageuk I bought one and happy with it.
Looks well undercooked
Thanks for watching
Was going to buy one of these, glad I watched as it looks useless, I'll stick to the oven.
It's not useless, but it's more of an all rounder. If just wanting to cook pizza, go for a dedicated pizza oven like ooni
370F for 2min?
no that 370°c
He didnt mention the plug chord & how long it is. Thats how they get you lol.
It was about 1.5m not that long to be honest
The pizza seems not crispy at all as when you cook in real fire .. it just seems like a frozen pizza oven cooked .. I use a wood fire pizza oven which is super basic and I was interested in the ninja but I think it’s not really a match for real wood fire pizza 😔
You really need to preheat it for an hour - then cook for 3 minutes to get a brown bottom.
Thanks for watching, yes would probably be better with a longer heat up time
6.40 the pause as the base is totally raw, why not just be honest and say it’s not cooked?! 😂
Because it was cooked, the dough was not raw, if it was it would stick to the stone. I agree with you, the base is less 'done' than i and many people like, but i wanted to leave the pause in because this reflects a real situation, it would have been easy to cut, change settings and re do a pizza, but i pride my channel on being authentic and genuine.
Completely agree mate. Just shows ye none of these are honest reviews. Just want freebies.
The dough will not brown until all the moisture has left the dough. Once you get much over 65% hydration you’ll end up overcooking the toppings before the crust spots or browns. Too little moisture and the crust can be tough to chew. Ther’s a balance to be achieved depending on the flour and the hydration to get a good result.
@samuelpottage @metrobar3367 you guys are both idiots. Literally he said seconds after he likes it a bit more well done. Dumb people always trying to stir up problems
@@TomVoyageukrelax
I bet that stone was nowhere close to hot enough. Let it preheat, wait 10 min, then add food??
I just followed the instructions on the digital display, in future i would let it heat up more though
There's no bake on the base mate be honest
I know it could have done to heat up longer I think, the stone is quite thin that makes it able to store less heat than a dedicated pizza oven
commercial pizza ovens dont have a window either
How is 12 half of 15......
Did you know 5 out of 3 people in the UK cannot do fractions.
The instructions said between 7 and 15mins so by say 12 was halfway he meant between the 7 and 15 did you know 5 out 3 people in the uk don’t listen properly 😂
Needed to be in a t least another minute or make dough thinner
I agree, but then the top could potentially overcook, this is the benefit of having a glass door, so you can check these things
One bite everyone know its raw
Ideally it needed longer at a lower temp, still a. Good oven if you want an all rounder though
Luckily I watched this and seen it doesn’t cook a pizza any better than I can cook in my oven at home.
I actually disagree. I think it’s a big difference
Get off TH-cam you were clearly paid for this, the base is completely raw and lied on camera
thanks for watching
the base is raw mate no good
Thanks for watching, i think the stone needed more time to heat up
Lol. You lost me when your face expression said the base is undercooked, but your words said otherwise .
A pizza shouod be ready in 60-90 seconds. This oven is a dud for the price. Just say it, even if you got it for free
A few people commented on this, but my videos are a true reflection of a product. Id rather show it how it is with a real reaction, rather then edited it out and re do the cook
Do yourself a favour, spend a few more quid and get an ooni
I should invest in an Ooni 👍🏻
Nice attempt Ninja, but this seems like it's trying too hard to be a Jack of all trades and is just a master of none. For the cost, just get an OG Ooni Karu 12 and $100 worth of various fuels or the gas adapter.
Thanks for watching, i guess it comes down to what you want, do you want a dedicated pizza oven or something that can grill, smoke and bake too. for some people with limited space i can see there being a place in the market for this type of oven.
Absolutely hilarious, you lost all credibility not being honest about the undercooked base.
Thanks for watchjng
Meh. 🫤 the pizza doesn’t _look_ particularly good…
Won’t be putting Ooni out of biz anytime soon.
Just need to play with settings a bit, and probably use a lower hydration dough next time too