EVERYTHING you need to know about the Ava Easy P57, and how it compares to Nilfisk
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- The @avaofnorwayuk P57 Easy has been doing the rounds on TH-cam recently as Ava have sent them out for review. I've managed to get one too, but unlike other reviews, I am doing a side by side comparison between this an Nilfisk in terms of design and accessories.
Here's links to everything of value in the video, from the specific pressure washer, to the accessories that can all be purchased separately.
00:00:34 - Intro
00:02:21 - A detailed look
00:12:24 - hose length comparison
00:13:17 - Stubby gun and nozzles
00:19:36 - PIR calculations
00:20:20 - Foam cannon
00:25:20 - Patio cleaning
00:27:00 - The competition
00:29:56 - Conclusions and warranties
- AVA P57 EASY - amzn.to/3X5OUNL
- AVA P40 EASY
- Zero Force gun - amzn.to/4dqlu2F
- Zoom Lance - amzn.to/4dtrs2A
- Vario 20/60 Nozzle - amzn.to/4fPSOSk
- Karcher hose adapter for Zero Force gun - tinyurl.com/3m...
- Premium Foam Cannon with the milkshake cups - amzn.to/46Ti1Y4
- Premium Foam Cannon with stubby cup - amzn.to/46QiOZw
#detailing #pressurewashing #superchargedllama
#carcleaning #avaofnorway
Thanks for the amazing review. My Nilfisk c120.3 died last week. Had it for over 10 years and I thought my next is gonna be Nilfisk again, however. I don't like the new design of Nilfisk core line. So I was gonna get Karcher obviously. Tried K4, K5 and it felt cheap and even though more powerful on the paper than my nilfisk. My old Nilfisk was far superior IMO. In the end I've decided to go with AVA. The only dilemma right now is whether to go with Easy P57 or Smart P60 🤔. Both are on offer at around £220 now
Personally I'd get the Easy, because you get the longer hose and the premium foam lance, which are far better. You can also upgrade the hose the steel reinforced one on the Easy at a later date of you chose to, but out of the box it is better equipped.
As a tip, use my link in the description and buy through Amazon so you've got their customer service, as opposed to Ava - Ava is fine but it's taking a bit longer to respond and resolve issues at the moment, where as Amazon is near instant; so if you've got any issues soon after purchasing then you'll get them resolved more quickly.
I don't think you will have any issues by the way, but it's worth making your life easier and the price is the same.
I trimmed my snow cannon pipe slightly to stop it wrapping up the side of the bottle and it now works perfectly👌
Yeah that's definitely the option I think needs to be taken if you're only going to use the small stubby cup.
Ava need to sell those milkshake cups separately!
I bought a P57 a couple of weeks ago and I am more than happy with it. It is light and easy to set up. The 12m hose is excellent. I also bought the premium foam cannon set and with my last wash I used Autoglym Polar Blast, Polar Wash and Polar Seal. The three bottles allowed me to mix each product before I used them. My old stubby gun and MJJC foam cannon are now redundant!
Glad to hear that! I really like the ease of it all, and then to find that the bundled foam cannon is so good as well, it's fantastic! And of course now you've got two cannons, so you can use one just for the sealant, which is a good thing.
Superb video Adrian covering everything my neighbour bought an AVA the smallest one they do and comparing AVA to Nilfisk is a tough test I think AVA have nailed it with the warranty and accessories certainly tough competition for karcher and Nilfisk for those who can’t afford a Kranzle .
Absolutely. I've just had the Nilfisk Excellent 160 for review as well...I don't doubt the pump is better than the Ava one, but everything else is well below their standard. Which surprised me a lot!
A superb review...thank you for taking the time to do this. I am looking for a new pressure washer and your review sealed the deal for the P57 :)
Fantastic! It's back in stock I believe, if you follow my link I get a small kickback at no Extra cost to you 👍
@@SuperchargedLlama just ordered the P57 myself
Without doubt one of the fairest ( I'm not shoving it down your throat ) reviewers on TH-cam. One of only a handful of channels I genuinely find informative and watch with interest. The AVA looks a decent machine for the price with it's very user friendly accessories. The DH Grey7 is serving me well and hopefully should last a good few years with a yearly oil change, it's permanently set up in the garage on it's own bracket. Next purchase will be a better quality stubby gun and some nozzles.
Thank you (as always). It's a long old video this one so I appreciate people sticking around and the commenting too!
That Grey 7 is a fantastic bit of kit, it's just the DH customer service that puts me off. Of course, being local, you've got the ability to doorstep them and that makes a huge difference!
I wonder if there's a way of having the hose you've got, but with a Nilfisk end? Then you'd be able to have the Ava accessories without an adapter...and it's those accessories that properly swing it for me towards the Ava. I'm very curious to see what Nilfisk have done with their new ones, as they look different.
Thank you for your reviews, i bought AVA P60 Smart X-Large finally in last sale
Excellent, how are you finding it?
Excellent comparison. My Nilfisk is 5 years old now and has been very reliable. This year it played up after being stored away for winter, most likely I didn’t get all the water out. Been thinking about upgrading it with a stubby gun and new 10m hose from hoses direct.
I have also considered replacing it with a AVA. So it’s eirther a £70 upgrade on my 5 year old system vs £300ish for a new system. So your comparison has come along at the right time, thank you.
I absolutely get that. Can I just say that you shouldn't buy from direct hoses; I've purchased from them twice, two years apart, and both times I've had problems. The customer service is abysmal - I had to raise a dispute with PayPal (luckily I used that payment method) to get some money back in the end.
Plenty of other places sell hoses and stubby guns, Clean Your Ride being one I'd definitely recommend. The concern I have for you is that if you've got it playing up already, you'll likely have to replace it at some point in the not too distant future?
Buuuuuut I also understand that the hose and gun is far cheaper!
@@SuperchargedLlama yep, totally agree with your concern that if my Nilfisk is starting to play up and I do up grade to a stubby gun etc. I could still find myself needing to replace my pressure washer in a year or so time.
At the minute I am thinking about using it during the summer and autumn. Then treat myself to a new pressure washer in a Black Friday/Christmas sale.
Another great review. The Ava P57 does look like a cracking bit of kit and one I will consider when I finally get to upgrade my current pressure washer
You won't be disappointed. I've just had the Nilfisk Excellent 160 for review and I thought that would be close, or better even...and the pump may well be, but the rest isn't.
Good job Adrian, like the person below said, a more objective view of the AvA, and less pushing it as an influencer, thank you. What i also appreciated was you confirning that it's a relatively new brand, at least to the UK, and therefore it's impossible to look at the brand without years of use, I may be wrong but no one else has had the good grace to do that. Im my world, my little K3 is 6m old and shouldn't need replacing for a good while and, it does a perfectly good job. Yes, i cant store stuff on it, ergonomically it's a blooming nuisance, but it still cleans my car, which is its job. Btw, nice Alliums. All the best buddy. 👍
Cheers dude, I'm glad people are appreciating the points I made. And with that in mind, that Nilfisk I've got coming is going to be interesting to compare it to.
It's the Ava accessories I really like, and reliability isn't a problem there. I feel like they are a proper upgrade over bundled stuff from other makes.
Also thanks for mentioning the Alliums, they are the Globemaster variety 👍
A really detailed review... love it... thank you sir
You're welcome! It's a long old watch, I know that, but there's so much to try and convey
@@SuperchargedLlama You did a great job and I was so impressed, I was on the cusp of pulling the trigger on a purchase of the Easy P40 (the P57 is unfortunately "out of stock" but I suspect the P40 is all I really need in reality) when, just out of curiosity, I had a quick look into the availability of warranty / service kits on AVA's UK website... and disappointingly, it immediately became apparent that most of these kits are also "out of stock" which is worrying for a direct to public sales business... especially for a new brand that you'd think hasn't seen to much consumption of service kits yet.
I loved all the blurb about AVA's "right to repair" ethos and cheap access to spare parts but this only creates tangible value when a level of certainty can actually be assumed around reliable availability of said parts in the future.
Any idea what's up with their manufacturing / supply chain? They don't seem to be "walking the walk"... but maybe there is a valid reason and this is only a temporary blip?
I wrote to customer support expressing my concern and got an automated email back:
"Unfortunately our response time is longer than usual, approx 14 days. We will answer your inquiry as soon as possible. May 17 and May 18 are Bank Holidays in Norway."
A 14 day response time is pretty abysmal.... and they haven't even bothered to update the (now past) Norway Bank Holiday dates.
Maybe I'm being overly suspicious arse but something just doesn't smell right.
Thanks for the video. I'm debating which to buy, AVA or Nilfisk. Had a Nilfisk C range for 6 months from Costco and it started pulsing, sent it back for a full refund as Nilfisk didn't want to fix it, either refurb or refund.
Costco have the E160 HX TRA for £350, but it does show up with a discount sometimes, may go for that.
Ava look great but as you say, the company is new so the 10 and 20 year warranty doesn't have the same weight as Nilfisk offering 5 years. Also seen some detailers say there are quality issues and microswitch issues with some Ava's.
Difficult choice!
I am with you there tough choices!
I feel like any issues with the Ava's should be okay for now, as the company is operating and doing well, but that doesn't mean a whole lot does it. It's the accessories that swings it for me, they are just much better with Ava.
I'll be interested to see what this new Nilfisk Excellent 160 is like, it's got the sort of design language of the new Core series, but the internals of the E line.
The sweet spot is the Ava accessories fit the Nilfisk hose....the onboard storage won't work, but then you've get an amazing setup.
@@SuperchargedLlama The accessories do look fantastic. I'm with you about the Nilfisk gun, I got hand pains after using it and the hose is better than Karcher's but not by much, kinks too easily and too short.
As always Adrian, you supply a simple and different point of view/review to something that's been looked at multiple times.
As a thought with the snow foam issue of the feed tube, could you swap out the MJJC weighted bottle feed tube to it. It should work on the smaller one but not sure for the milkshake bottle. Could that work? are the specs similar enough to work.
Thank you so much!
The thought you've got there is an interesting one. I've only got the V3 from MJJC and I can tell that draw tube is too small in diameter, but I was chatting to Speccy the other day...and I think he said there were some weights you could get on eBay that might fit.
@@SuperchargedLlama OK, weight alone might be enough, depends if the tube is not too stiff I suspect, certainly worth the research, unless AVA have already solved the issue of course. 🙂Maybe that's one for the next snow foam cannon video?
@@johngent3350 hmmm maybe. You could just cut the tube short I guess, it use any standard bottle instead and that'd work. The Autosmart trigger bottles fit for example, as do the carpro dilutes.
Let's not forget the 10 year warranty on the Ava pressure washers which is crazy. That's probably why they are almost all out of stock all the time.
There must have been some supply issues, which I can only imagine is because they sold far more than they expected!
My outlet pipe has cracked. Customer service is like jumping through hoops. Less than a year old. Replacement item is a pound. Cheap poor part. Postage is 12 pounds. For an item 8 months old it's a joke.
@@MrTboy21did they let you pay for it?
@@Cantatos seems the only way. If you send it back to repair it could cost 100 pounds. It's been a nightmare taking it apart as my screwdriver was too thick to reach screws that are also not your average heads.
@@MrTboy21 ooof that is bad! What unit is that on?
Thanks for this review - it is the most objective one I've seen on the AVA; some others feel like influencers pushing a product.
Can I ask what the hose is like please i.e. does it kink like the cheaper models from Karcher. The 12m length makes it very useful
Thank you for specifically picking up on the objective comparison, I was hell bent on that being the case!
The hose seems pretty good. It'll definitely kink if you pull it hard enough, but it seems as resilient at the Nilfisk option. One of the benefits of the length is that I found I rarely pulled it tight like you do with a shorter hose, does that make sense?
@@SuperchargedLlama Thanks for clarifying that. I understand what you are saying
Is that a stunning pair of crocs 😂
With and without socks as well, if you watch closely.
Excellent video Adrian so thank you, i have recently bought the P57 & i think everything about it is brilliant. On the matter of the foam cannon, did you notice if the mesh filter is the standard size ?.👍🏻
Thank you! I'll try and be as thorough with the Nilfisk! I had time to do so for this one, might be a bit more squeezed on that, but I want to do it justice.
Just purely from eyeballing it I would say that yes, these are the standard filters.
@@SuperchargedLlama Thank you.
AVA, or AN Other, could form two brackets that would hold the lance and accessories to the machine body. At least you have a decent length of hose with the P57... Not all Kärcher accessories will fit without modification/cutting 1/4" off the end of the screw-cowling. The Kärcher screw-cowling is too long!
Some good points there. I feel like there's very likely a lot of space in the housing where they could make some indentations to store the accessories when folded away (except maybe the Zoom lance), something they might do for a future revision perhaps!
Had nilfisk e145 think was lasted 7months and they not fix it even tho in 5 year warranty 👍 . Got core 130 older and still going lol. Got kranzle k1050 heavy and work good even with a tank .
I got my C135 repaired really easily, but that's because I contracted the service centre directly (and there was one relatively near me). Might be the best approach?
It does go to show that there are issues with customer service everywhere doesn't it. Apart from Kranzle maybe. They're reliable and they have good customer service.
@@SuperchargedLlama it went back to service place two times but nope broken still nobody cared i was so mad lol
@@robrobinson420 yeah, so you wouldn't buy a Nilfisk again then would you, given that experience. It's so hard to recommend a pressure washer to people who can't afford a Kranzle!
Gotta say, the Ava accessories are absolutely top notch in design and quality, and I guess we don't have to worry too much about reliability for them.
@@SuperchargedLlama my kranzle k1050 was 450 pounds prop out last most stuff .
@@robrobinson420 you got a brilliant deal there! It's a lot of money of course, but you get what you pay for. I really like that model you've got over the K7 and K10 (which I know are fantastic for static setups, beit in a van or unit, but the portability of the K1050 is superb. I wonder if I can get one to review from someone...).
Awesome Review but now thinking do I get a Easy P57 - X-Large Bundle or a Nilfisk E150 as they both stand at the same price :S
I've actually got a review of the E160 on my channel too if you want to see that? Although I think the 150 I'd actually the Core model these days?
Personally I'd go with the Ava because you don't need to spend a single penny on other accessories afterwards, and you get a stubby gun too (with how their system works). That might not be an issue for you if you've already got those things and they fit a Nilfisk of course.
thank you so much for getting back to me@@SuperchargedLlama
I am starting a detailing business down south and looking around on what I should get , Do you know if the autoglym snow foam lance aka the Polar Blaster work with the ava mount for the SF cannons ?
thank you for getting back to me :)
@@KevsQuests no problem dude. I want to make you aware of one thing, neither of these machines are covered for warranty if you're using them commercially, I just use my Ava domestically (actually, Ava do give you a month of commercial warranty, no one else does that).
The Ava connector is the same as the Karcher K-Series, so if you've got that on the end of the Autoglym lance then you're good to go, if not then you'll need to change it.
I will say that in the XL bundle you get Ur premium foam lance from Ava, don't you? It's brilliant, one of the best Lance's I've used actually, I love it. But having two that fit your setup is really useful as it means you can have two different products lined up to use.
@@SuperchargedLlama I did think that with the warranty side of things too but you never know if anything right could brake at any time :P
Xl bundles do come with a large snowfoam lance but its not the your talking about a lot of there stuff on the webiste is mark "sold out" but I hear a lot of that maybe due to them doing a recall on them due to them shorting a fuse :S
great to hear that If I was to get a AVA that I can use Karchers stuff on there. but my real question ( sorry for so many ) is what would be the best thing for me to buy as a new start up business again I do have a budget of £300 ( I am also looking to get the MTM Hydro gun onto top too if needed )
Really dont understand how much these this means to me that you are getting back to me , Thank you !
@@KevsQuests ahhh the fuse blowing issue affected the P70 and P60, the Easy, Go and Smart lines were all good on that front.
Currently stuck on choice between the AVA P55 GO & EASY P57 what it like drawing water from tank?
I found it was absolutely fine from a tank. It's definitely self priming, so that helps.
I feel like the benefit of the Easy is that you don't need anything else (and the premium foam cannon is brilliant!), but if you're looking to go with your own stubby gun and foam lance then I'd say the Go is the way to...err...go
@@SuperchargedLlama great thanks thats all I need to know love the honest reviews by the way, thanks again for the help
@@johnbeeney4722 if you do get one and you're buying direct from Ava, if you follow one of my links in the description (even of it's not the right model) I'll get a small kickback, which is a great way to support the channel. Obviously I completely understand that you might be purchasing from somewhere else.
How's the noise ? Does it give that high pitched noise like the karchers ? Mine is 91db and the Ava p57 is 95db, so obviously louder but from what I can hear in the very few videos where people don't put background noise, sorry music, it sounds a bit quieter. What's your take ?
Oh it is definitely loud, 💯 one of the loudest pressure washers I've used. It's not a horrible sound in terms of pitch or anything, but it is noisy.
I am upcoming review of the Nilfisk Excellent 160 I do a bit of a sound sample whilst I'm holding the lance, but the lance spraying does drown it out a bit. I've got a Nilfisk P200 to review now and what I'll do there is put the camera right next to the pressure washers, so we're hearing them in direct comparison to each other. That video will be 4-6 weeks away though.
@@SuperchargedLlama that's really unfortunate to hear as i was willing to still buy it just for the features, the lance, trigger, 12m hose, as I'm sick of dragging my Karcher around the car and that plasticky hose that keeps hitting the car at the slightest distraction and already made some scratches. Since I have sensitive hearing, it bothers me so I wanted a quieter machine with a long soft hose.
My other consideration is the nilfisk e145 which is 86db although it has a 9m hose but some say it's not that good. The Bosch aquatak 130-135 is also 86db but the hose is only 7m.
Also considered the core 150 10m hose but it is 94db close to the Ava.
@@guilhermeg345 aha! Yes so you've stumbled in to the "universal motor" Vs "induction motor" differences. The E145 does have the induction motor.
Here's my recommendation, get the now discontinued Nilfisk C135i from Nilfisk UK on eBay for £130, but a 15m reinforced hose and stubby gun, or even the Ava lance, gun and nozzles, and have the best of everything. I use the Nilfisk in my van as it's so compact and has an induction motor.
Or the other option is wearing headphones, which I do as I need to save my ears too due to the constant exposure (along with the generator at times).
@@SuperchargedLlama that excellence 160 is 85+3 dB so close to the e145 and with a 10 meter flex hose but the price is 399€. 🥲
@@SuperchargedLlama I'm from Portugal so buying from the UK is not viable nor they send it to my country. Ideally it would have to be from Amazon since it's the only place that gives free shipping.
How much autofoam did you put into your Ava snow foam canon?
Enough for 4% PIR (panel impact ratio) - that varies from machine to machine, but in this case I believe it was 200ml in 500ml of total solution.
Nice one. I'm using the same washer so good to know. Thanks
So what pressure washer do u use
This one now, unless I'm having to run off my generator, then I use my Nilfisk C135 is it draws less power and doesn't stress the generator as much. The P57's draw is a bit marginal for it, so it trips out sometimes.
Unless I'm reviewing something else, I'll generally use the Ava. Mainly for the lance and foam cannon tbh, love them!
@SuperchargedLlama does the ava have plenty of flow rate compared to your nilfisk ihave a core 140 but when I looked at actual bar
Pressure it only runs at 100 bar
@@leighrowberry61 funnily enough I was looking at the sticker on the back of it yesterday, as I've got a Nilfisk P200 to review at the moment as well. I'll need to check again for the flow rate, but I think the standard operating pressure was more like 100bar (peak being 150bar or something) - let me check this morning and confirm.
If feels fine in use btw
@@leighrowberry61 I've checked now. Max is 145bar, average 97bar. Max 8.3l/min, average 6.5l/min.
So r avas 100 bar to
Hello darling
Outstanding work Adrian well worth the hot cross bump if the hot cross bun tan darling
Suffering for my art there darling 😉
However!
I'm not too sure which bit that was in relation to, but thank you for watching and commenting 🤘