Paint correction is the difference between a detailer and someone who merely cleans their car, like me. The amount of technical knowledge and skill required is staggering. Excellent video.
Great information on in2 detailing polishing machines,they definitely look quality, I purchased a SPTA 5inch DA last year from Amazon for £80 with a selection of additions, really pleased with it , keep up the great content!
Thank you for taking the time to watch AND comment - really appreciate that, it's more motivating that you probably imagine :) That SPTA one is a good bit of kit - for the money I don't think you can knock them at all!
Really enjoyed this video. I got the DA8 after watching video on it and I agree, a cracking bit of kit. The forced rotation da, well that is something I may need to look into as journey continues. Thanks for cracking advice and I hope you have a brilliant Xmas 😁
And to you darling! I would say if you ever reach a point with the DA8 that you think "hmmmm, wish this did a bit more correction in a single set" then you're at the point of benefitting from the Forced Rotation one.
Another great video. Made me think a lot as to my next purchase and integrating a forced polished into the kit. Very informative and educational but not over technical which is a good thing.
Thank you darling, that's great to hear! The forced rotation is a fantastic bit of kit and I recommend it to anyone looking for the next step. As I said, it will take a bit of time to master, and the pad combos are different (less aggressive), but once you get it, WOW,.
Thanks so much for doing this excellent video 👍👍👏👏. I can now with a better understanding of them all now start saving to upgrade my das6 pro V1. I've already got the in2detailing nano polisher and for me and my circumstances works very well. I do want a dedicated 3" polisher but after hearing your thoughts I'll buy the DA8 and keep the 3" pad on it but also buy the forced rotation and keep that with the 5" pad just like you've suggested. If money was no object I'd like the Flex ones purely for the cordless feature, but as I'm nearly always infront of my garage the corded ones don't really hinder me either. I might get a scrap panel just to practice on using the forced rotation and to get more experience and a feel for how it works and reacts. Again many thanks Adrian for taking the time
I'm a big fan of Milwaukee tools and snapped up their DA polisher for a reasonable price. Even though I'm using older generation 4.0 M18 batteries, it works great. I also have the Carbon Collective mini polisher. Cordless for the win!
This is a really good point to make - cordless is helpful in the sense of not having cables to faff with, but I've found the power drop off is annoyingly detrimental, and the equipment can be really expensive. But the flip side is you get so much flexibility when moving the polisher, and you don't have to worry about the flex rubbing on the paint anywhere. There's definitely merits to it, but you do pay for it. I quite like that you get about 30-40 mins of run time because that sort of forces you to take a breather.
I agree! With a finishing pad and polish you can get such a lovely result. And the with a one stepper too, as long as you've got the right combination.
I’ve been using a Vertool FD polisher and the In2detailing 3” polisher for a few years. I’ve just gone cordless with the Flex FD and the Shinemate EB210. Will be trying them out on my next detail. My opinion is you can’t beat a FD machine. EB 210 you get a good kit for the money.
That EB210 does look really good, I just haven't had a go with it so I've not been able to say it's worth it.... however, that didn't stop me with the 3" one did it, I was remiss to mention that. The different heads to change the modes look really well made, the review Apex Detailing did on it looks promising....I wonder if Shinemate could be persuaded to lend me a demo unit....
Love this, Adrian, something a little different and very very helpful. I currently only have the DAS6 Pro..... not sure it's V1 or 2 and the stalling drive me mad, on my vertical panels which have lots of curves and edges. So, how much use do i get, not a lot really, maybe 3 or 4 cars per year, mine maybe 2 times, should i therefor be thinking of an upgrade 🤔. I was thinking of the forced rotation and a nano..... now im thinking, keep the DAS6 Pro, use it on all the flat horizontal and vertical panels, then grab the Flex for use as a nano and 3". The cost of buying a forced rotation and the nano is relatively similar and the flex has some good features, such as quick release..... so many thoughts and decisions. That was just the content I needed, thank you. All the best. Lee.
Thanks Lee! I would say, if you've got the money for it, the Flex could well be a winner. Shinemate also have an option too, which looks properly sorted. I found with the original Das-6 Pro (which is what you'll have, the new one hasn't been out long, and it's the one I had to start with too) that I needed to swap to the 3" pad a lot to avoid the stalling, but then it took so long to do a car. The Forced one has definitely resolved that for me. Ultimately you pays your monies and makes your choices, don't you. It's all about what you can afford for sure, that's got to be the single biggest factor.
Hello! Haven't caught one of your videos in a while, this is a good one and very relevant for me! I've been wanting to get into machine polishing since the lockdowns but havent managed it, this year I'll hopefully eventually have a go at starting out. So, the DA8 / DAS6 Pro V2 sounds like a great starting point (if they are indeed the same, I havent seen that on my searches yet but did notice they looked the same). How did you start learning how to machine polish? Are there training courses you can go on, as a complete beginner, or are there pros that teach people? That is my first step. Have you got a video on the accessories you'd want with these machines, e.g. pads and polishes? Thanks! P.s. not sure if its on my end, but your voice is only coming out of one headphone side!
Good to hear from you dude! I started learning by just trying it out on my own car, starting off with light polishing pads and finishing polishes so I couldn't do much damage, and then went from there. There are courses and I would like to do one myself actually, just to keep learning, you know? I'm not competent with a rotary and would like to be. It depends where you live in the country as to which will be closest to you, but UK Detailing Academy is reportedly very good. I can certainly give you some recommendations on pads and polishes, it's not a video I've made because there's no right or wrong, there's such a broad range of products that you'll always get someone kicking off. However, with that said, there definitely are some that everyone agrees with that are good. I really like Rupes Yellow Foam da pads, but I've been recommended the Zvizzer Thermo ones by many people, so I'd go down that route too I reckon. And whilst chemical guys get a lot of stick from a lot of people, their pads are good. As are Lake Country. See? Minefield 😅 but I can definitely recommend the Rupes pads and Koch Chemie polishes (F6 and M3 is the medium and finishing polishes, F6 stands for Fine, M3 is Microfine...so that's a finishing polish).
Also, I forgot to say that you're not wrong about the audio. New wireless mic and I hadn't quite got on top of it, recording in the stereo setting basically just means you can use two mics, not that it records in stereo. Didn't realise that.
@@SuperchargedLlama I see what you mean, there could be endless combinations of pads and polish that could give comparably great results. At least for the polisher part its simple, choose whichever is cheaper between the DA8 and Das6, or if you like blue or red better haha. Polishes confuse me a bit, I need to understand the Koch lineup better as I seem to remember there being 01 and 02 mixed in there somewhere too. Where do 'all in one' polishes fit into the general polish category and what is their purpose? There is this Scholl one that I keep hearing about. Is the general rule that two dedicated polishes will always outperform these 'all in one' jobbies? In what scenario would that come into its own, if you have experience with them? For a complete beginner, is buying an all in one vs separate grades a reasonable thing to do (for simplicity and cost)?
I've looked at it online but I've not had a chance to try one. I'm not going to buy it just to give it a go as it's a fair bit of outlay AND I've got the new one from In2Detailing to try out.
Thankyou for this video I have been confused by the whole different polishers for some time now. DA8 it is then. Can you recommend a polish and pad combo for a 1 step? I have no deep scratches to remove just something to use after a clay barring?
You're very welcome! I've used Rupes Yellow Foam and Scholl Concepts S20 Black for one stepping for a long time, but everyone I've spoken to who's used Zvizzer has me convinced to get some of their pads and polishes next time. If it's your first time polishing then I'd suggest medium pads and a fine and medium polish. The medium will have much more cut, but the fine will be the safest to use whilst you get a feeling for it, and in some cases it's all you need. What make is the car youllibe doing?
@@jamiesimpson9159 ahhh yeah you'll be fine with the medium pads and polish, that'll see you right. www.in2detailing.co.uk/products/zvizzer-mc-3000-medium-cut?variant=40288443138127&ghref=3377%3A373130 And the medium thermo pad.
That's a very good point to make - I didn't mention it because I've not used it at any point, but I could have mentioned it speculatively like I did with the new SPTA one.
Yeah I should have mentioned it. Haven't had a chance to have a go with one (not that many have in the UK) but it looks really sorted. It's about £320 for the complete kit by the looks of it, which has a big variety of pads and attachments.
I do have it, yes. I haven't had too many correction jobs in the last few weeks so I've had fewer opportunities to use it, but from what I have done with it so far, yeah it's absolutely fine. They are very very similar, the DA9 is marginally better, but not enough to upgrade from one to the other (it wasn't intended to be, Clean Your Car have basically got the rights to the DA8 for their new DAS6 Pro V2).
@@SuperchargedLlama Cool, will it'll be good to hear your thoughts regardless as I haven't bought anything yet. Odd regarding the exclusive rights, I thought the DA8 had been out a while so seems strange In2 have had to looks for a new person? Does this mean that there isn't an identical DAS equivalent for the DA9 this time round?
Bit late to the party but this was exactly the question I had regarding the DA9. The only concern I have regarding the DA9 is that it's less powerful purely in terms of watts but it has other things that make up for that.
@@AM4N18 dude I'm sorry for not replying, I didn't see your response! Yes I believe you're correct, there's no equivalent of the DA9, which is why Imran bought it out, he wants an alternative to the DA8/DAS6 Pro V2 that actually has some other features and benefits, otherwise he's not got a product to sell.
Seeing as you're thinking along the same lines as I am, I very much recommend that Forced Rotation machine. I reckon you'd have the ultimate combination there.
@@SuperchargedLlama next summer i have a 2023 type r to detail and ceramic coating with the two polishers in hand i think they will come in handly but im thinking on what pads and compounds and poilshes to use?
@@garethdavies7564 I'd probably go with Zvizzer pads and polishes, and the lightest options. www.in2detailing.co.uk/products/zvizzer-fc-2000-fine-cut?variant=40288441925711&ghref=3377%3A373130 And www.in2detailing.co.uk/products/zvizzer-thermo-pad-black-low-cut?ghref=3377%3A373130 Honda paint is mega soft.
Love your reviews and the forced rotation is tempting. I'm very happy with my Pxe80 which I got for a fantastic price. I've currently got in my machine polisher arsenal a Dewalt Dwp848x rotary, a Shinemate mini rotary, a Dewalt cordless DA along with an SPTA 3" DA and the Pxe80. I'll probably try the In2detail forced rotation at High Definition Detail in the new year and see how it compares to the rotary.
@@markmoore6264 that is quite an arsenal you've got there! Do you find that you use the PXE80 a lot because it's so easy to pick up and just do what you need?
Here's links to all the polishers and the alternative options I mention in the video:
- In2Detailing DA8 polisher - bit.ly/44j04jS
- In2Detailing DA15 polisher -
- In2Detailing DA12 polisher - bit.ly/3p0KKrJ
- In2Detailing Forced Rotation - bit.ly/3LLb1DG
- In2Detailing Nano polisher - tinyurl.com/48zpk8vb
- Clean Your Car DAS-6 Pro V2 - tinyurl.com/235vnd4m
- Rupes LHR75 - tinyurl.com/4cspu4r8
- Shinemate EX603 - tinyurl.com/u9tea2et
- Flex PXE80 - tinyurl.com/4v6tm4um
Paint correction is the difference between a detailer and someone who merely cleans their car, like me.
The amount of technical knowledge and skill required is staggering.
Excellent video.
That's such a great way of explaining it! Thanks for watching and commenting dude, Merry Christmas
i own a DA8 and a SPTA nano. just ordered the forced rotation. thanks for the reassurance :)
Excellent news!
Great information on in2 detailing polishing machines,they definitely look quality, I purchased a SPTA 5inch DA last year from Amazon for £80 with a selection of additions, really pleased with it , keep up the great content!
Thank you for taking the time to watch AND comment - really appreciate that, it's more motivating that you probably imagine :)
That SPTA one is a good bit of kit - for the money I don't think you can knock them at all!
Really enjoyed this video. I got the DA8 after watching video on it and I agree, a cracking bit of kit. The forced rotation da, well that is something I may need to look into as journey continues. Thanks for cracking advice and I hope you have a brilliant Xmas 😁
And to you darling!
I would say if you ever reach a point with the DA8 that you think "hmmmm, wish this did a bit more correction in a single set" then you're at the point of benefitting from the Forced Rotation one.
Another great video. Made me think a lot as to my next purchase and integrating a forced polished into the kit. Very informative and educational but not over technical which is a good thing.
Thank you darling, that's great to hear! The forced rotation is a fantastic bit of kit and I recommend it to anyone looking for the next step. As I said, it will take a bit of time to master, and the pad combos are different (less aggressive), but once you get it, WOW,.
@@SuperchargedLlama Just looked at the link you provided and that is a great price for a forced polisher !
@@markandbow5774 it's stonking value, isn't it? Really obtainable, I expected it to start with a two!
@@SuperchargedLlama Lol you and me both. I have two Alfa Romeo's and a Ford B- max to polish so I may treat myself !
Thanks so much for doing this excellent video 👍👍👏👏.
I can now with a better understanding of them all now start saving to upgrade my das6 pro V1. I've already got the in2detailing nano polisher and for me and my circumstances works very well.
I do want a dedicated 3" polisher but after hearing your thoughts I'll buy the DA8 and keep the 3" pad on it but also buy the forced rotation and keep that with the 5" pad just like you've suggested.
If money was no object I'd like the Flex ones purely for the cordless feature, but as I'm nearly always infront of my garage the corded ones don't really hinder me either.
I might get a scrap panel just to practice on using the forced rotation and to get more experience and a feel for how it works and reacts. Again many thanks Adrian for taking the time
Excellent stuff. If you have any questions at any point do feel free to ask.
@@SuperchargedLlama thanks mate, really do appreciate that 👍🏼
I'm a big fan of Milwaukee tools and snapped up their DA polisher for a reasonable price. Even though I'm using older generation 4.0 M18 batteries, it works great. I also have the Carbon Collective mini polisher.
Cordless for the win!
This is a really good point to make - cordless is helpful in the sense of not having cables to faff with, but I've found the power drop off is annoyingly detrimental, and the equipment can be really expensive. But the flip side is you get so much flexibility when moving the polisher, and you don't have to worry about the flex rubbing on the paint anywhere. There's definitely merits to it, but you do pay for it.
I quite like that you get about 30-40 mins of run time because that sort of forces you to take a breather.
Excellent video mate. I've just bought the DA9 from them and I'm looking forward to trying it out 😁😁
You won't be disappointed! I really like the DA9, haven't had a chance to film whilst using it though.
@SuperchargedLlama any chance of doing the Da9 review
@@gdougie2080 that's the plan. I've had no opportunity to do it all summer due to the weather and time constraints on clients cars .
Nothing like forced rotation. You get a deeper, better shine period 💪🏼
I agree! With a finishing pad and polish you can get such a lovely result. And the with a one stepper too, as long as you've got the right combination.
Great video, really enjoying your reviews mate 👏🏽
Thanks so much for watching and for taking the time to comment, it's really appreciated and gives me the motivation to keep at it 👍
I’ve been using a Vertool FD polisher and the In2detailing 3” polisher for a few years. I’ve just gone cordless with the Flex FD and the Shinemate EB210. Will be trying them out on my next detail. My opinion is you can’t beat a FD machine.
EB 210 you get a good kit for the money.
That EB210 does look really good, I just haven't had a go with it so I've not been able to say it's worth it.... however, that didn't stop me with the 3" one did it, I was remiss to mention that.
The different heads to change the modes look really well made, the review Apex Detailing did on it looks promising....I wonder if Shinemate could be persuaded to lend me a demo unit....
Finally!! Been looking forward too this 🎉
💪 I hope it delivered then dude 😘
@@SuperchargedLlama sure did, now I need a forced rotation to match my DA8 😂
@@RabW70 I'm not going to stop you 😘😅
Love this, Adrian, something a little different and very very helpful.
I currently only have the DAS6 Pro..... not sure it's V1 or 2 and the stalling drive me mad, on my vertical panels which have lots of curves and edges.
So, how much use do i get, not a lot really, maybe 3 or 4 cars per year, mine maybe 2 times, should i therefor be thinking of an upgrade 🤔.
I was thinking of the forced rotation and a nano..... now im thinking, keep the DAS6 Pro, use it on all the flat horizontal and vertical panels, then grab the Flex for use as a nano and 3".
The cost of buying a forced rotation and the nano is relatively similar and the flex has some good features, such as quick release..... so many thoughts and decisions.
That was just the content I needed, thank you.
All the best. Lee.
Thanks Lee!
I would say, if you've got the money for it, the Flex could well be a winner. Shinemate also have an option too, which looks properly sorted.
I found with the original Das-6 Pro (which is what you'll have, the new one hasn't been out long, and it's the one I had to start with too) that I needed to swap to the 3" pad a lot to avoid the stalling, but then it took so long to do a car. The Forced one has definitely resolved that for me.
Ultimately you pays your monies and makes your choices, don't you. It's all about what you can afford for sure, that's got to be the single biggest factor.
Good for thought. The nano is the MaxShine version one.
Yup, and there's a new SPTA one out now too, which looks different to the maxshine V2.
Hello! Haven't caught one of your videos in a while, this is a good one and very relevant for me! I've been wanting to get into machine polishing since the lockdowns but havent managed it, this year I'll hopefully eventually have a go at starting out. So, the DA8 / DAS6 Pro V2 sounds like a great starting point (if they are indeed the same, I havent seen that on my searches yet but did notice they looked the same). How did you start learning how to machine polish? Are there training courses you can go on, as a complete beginner, or are there pros that teach people? That is my first step. Have you got a video on the accessories you'd want with these machines, e.g. pads and polishes?
Thanks!
P.s. not sure if its on my end, but your voice is only coming out of one headphone side!
Good to hear from you dude!
I started learning by just trying it out on my own car, starting off with light polishing pads and finishing polishes so I couldn't do much damage, and then went from there. There are courses and I would like to do one myself actually, just to keep learning, you know? I'm not competent with a rotary and would like to be.
It depends where you live in the country as to which will be closest to you, but UK Detailing Academy is reportedly very good.
I can certainly give you some recommendations on pads and polishes, it's not a video I've made because there's no right or wrong, there's such a broad range of products that you'll always get someone kicking off. However, with that said, there definitely are some that everyone agrees with that are good. I really like Rupes Yellow Foam da pads, but I've been recommended the Zvizzer Thermo ones by many people, so I'd go down that route too I reckon. And whilst chemical guys get a lot of stick from a lot of people, their pads are good. As are Lake Country.
See? Minefield 😅 but I can definitely recommend the Rupes pads and Koch Chemie polishes (F6 and M3 is the medium and finishing polishes, F6 stands for Fine, M3 is Microfine...so that's a finishing polish).
Also, I forgot to say that you're not wrong about the audio. New wireless mic and I hadn't quite got on top of it, recording in the stereo setting basically just means you can use two mics, not that it records in stereo. Didn't realise that.
@@SuperchargedLlama I see what you mean, there could be endless combinations of pads and polish that could give comparably great results.
At least for the polisher part its simple, choose whichever is cheaper between the DA8 and Das6, or if you like blue or red better haha.
Polishes confuse me a bit, I need to understand the Koch lineup better as I seem to remember there being 01 and 02 mixed in there somewhere too.
Where do 'all in one' polishes fit into the general polish category and what is their purpose? There is this Scholl one that I keep hearing about. Is the general rule that two dedicated polishes will always outperform these 'all in one' jobbies? In what scenario would that come into its own, if you have experience with them?
For a complete beginner, is buying an all in one vs separate grades a reasonable thing to do (for simplicity and cost)?
Have you looked at the Shine mate EB210?
I've looked at it online but I've not had a chance to try one. I'm not going to buy it just to give it a go as it's a fair bit of outlay AND I've got the new one from In2Detailing to try out.
Thankyou for this video I have been confused by the whole different polishers for some time now. DA8 it is then.
Can you recommend a polish and pad combo for a 1 step? I have no deep scratches to remove just something to use after a clay barring?
You're very welcome!
I've used Rupes Yellow Foam and Scholl Concepts S20 Black for one stepping for a long time, but everyone I've spoken to who's used Zvizzer has me convinced to get some of their pads and polishes next time. If it's your first time polishing then I'd suggest medium pads and a fine and medium polish. The medium will have much more cut, but the fine will be the safest to use whilst you get a feeling for it, and in some cases it's all you need.
What make is the car youllibe doing?
@@SuperchargedLlama 2019 Audi.
@@jamiesimpson9159 ahhh yeah you'll be fine with the medium pads and polish, that'll see you right.
www.in2detailing.co.uk/products/zvizzer-mc-3000-medium-cut?variant=40288443138127&ghref=3377%3A373130
And the medium thermo pad.
Nice review 👌 I think you forgot about shinemate eb210 which is great and competitive with pxe80, you get a lot for less :)
That's a very good point to make - I didn't mention it because I've not used it at any point, but I could have mentioned it speculatively like I did with the new SPTA one.
There's a cheaper version of the shinemate 3" polisher called a Batocca, but it only has a 2.5m length cable. Around £69
They also do a fake pxe 80, have you seen that? www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006140691588.html
Shinemate has the EB210 that's much like the pxe 80. Not sure of the prices differences.
Yeah I should have mentioned it. Haven't had a chance to have a go with one (not that many have in the UK) but it looks really sorted. It's about £320 for the complete kit by the looks of it, which has a big variety of pads and attachments.
Hi, will you be reviewing the new DA9 thats just come out at all? I assume the main comparison would be to the DA8?
I do have it, yes. I haven't had too many correction jobs in the last few weeks so I've had fewer opportunities to use it, but from what I have done with it so far, yeah it's absolutely fine. They are very very similar, the DA9 is marginally better, but not enough to upgrade from one to the other (it wasn't intended to be, Clean Your Car have basically got the rights to the DA8 for their new DAS6 Pro V2).
@@SuperchargedLlama Cool, will it'll be good to hear your thoughts regardless as I haven't bought anything yet.
Odd regarding the exclusive rights, I thought the DA8 had been out a while so seems strange In2 have had to looks for a new person? Does this mean that there isn't an identical DAS equivalent for the DA9 this time round?
Bit late to the party but this was exactly the question I had regarding the DA9. The only concern I have regarding the DA9 is that it's less powerful purely in terms of watts but it has other things that make up for that.
@@AM4N18 dude I'm sorry for not replying, I didn't see your response! Yes I believe you're correct, there's no equivalent of the DA9, which is why Imran bought it out, he wants an alternative to the DA8/DAS6 Pro V2 that actually has some other features and benefits, otherwise he's not got a product to sell.
i just brought my self flex pxe 80 with zvizzer bundle now im looking for 5-6" machine there are so machine out there 🤦🏻♂️
Seeing as you're thinking along the same lines as I am, I very much recommend that Forced Rotation machine. I reckon you'd have the ultimate combination there.
@@SuperchargedLlama next summer i have a 2023 type r to detail and ceramic coating with the two polishers in hand i think they will come in handly but im thinking on what pads and compounds and poilshes to use?
@@garethdavies7564 I'd probably go with Zvizzer pads and polishes, and the lightest options.
www.in2detailing.co.uk/products/zvizzer-fc-2000-fine-cut?variant=40288441925711&ghref=3377%3A373130
And
www.in2detailing.co.uk/products/zvizzer-thermo-pad-black-low-cut?ghref=3377%3A373130
Honda paint is mega soft.
Love your reviews and the forced rotation is tempting. I'm very happy with my Pxe80 which I got for a fantastic price. I've currently got in my machine polisher arsenal a Dewalt Dwp848x rotary, a Shinemate mini rotary, a Dewalt cordless DA along with an SPTA 3" DA and the Pxe80. I'll probably try the In2detail forced rotation at High Definition Detail in the new year and see how it compares to the rotary.
@@markmoore6264 that is quite an arsenal you've got there! Do you find that you use the PXE80 a lot because it's so easy to pick up and just do what you need?
Mythbusting: DAs cut more than a rotary on the same pad and compound at comparable speed.
I've seen that on 15mm and longer throws, but not on 8mm ones (personally).