When I smoked weed in Amsterdam where I knew I wouldn't get arrested and people wouldn't give me a weird look for looking high all of a sudden the paranoia was gone. The plant doesn't make me paranoid, the fact that I could get caught does.
Mentally ill people is way to broad. Shrooms might help with anxiety disorders or depression, but might enhance the frequency or even initiation of psychoses/ schizophrenia.
@@codyminecrack248 That's simply wrong. People with a family history of schizophrenia, psychosis, or bipolar disorder should absolutely stay away from psychedelics or recreational drugs of any kind, including cannabis. Psychedelic therapy has had positive results for certain specific disorders, like substance abuse and PTSD, no doubt. But to generalize these experiences to all mental illnesses is dangerous. It's becoming clear that people with the most propensity to develop schizophrenia in their lifetime (men under roughly 25 years old, especially those with a family history of schizophrenia) should stay as far away from psychedelics and cannabis as possible.
@@Justin-rm6su ya you dont want people that are in their heads to be more in their heads. Especially with the weird thoughts they already have flowing through there. Depression and what not surs ya 100% itll help. But if youre already mentally ill id stay away from any medication. Only solution would be meditation in some isolated areas.
All I know is when I smoke i actually think about my actions way more and I’m calmer and choose the most laid back and safe option in any situation. Sharp on point always
That's because you are addicted. When people stop taking heroin they start getting nauseous and sick. So, the continue taking heroin and go back to being healthy. Therefore, heroin must be good for you.
@@sweatypalmz2812 all the people who say they have clearer thinking or feel calmer on weed. Feel so because they have used it so much to the point where the body feels that is normal. The same goes towards heroin. I am not directly comparing the two drugs, because one withdrawls make you feel like you are dying. Another example would be xanax. If you are taking xanax recreationally, and stop. You actually develop symptoms of anxiety.
@@maxwellhubbard2749 that actually makes sense. Your body has become dependent on it and when you try to stop your body expresses withdrawal behaviors, basically.
@@chrisoher I have had a couple of breaks now, and I must say. Smoking from one day and stopping the other goes quite well. I never had any withdrawal behaviors. When I tried stopping with sigarettes I get serious withdrawal effect. Chew on that mister know it all without ever have done it yourself ;)
I'm Dutch, weed is "legal" here for all my life and I'm a regular smoker. Never get paranoid. Last November I went to Germany for a weekend off, where weed is illegal. I had some weed on me tho. The moment the train crossed the border, I got paranoid. I could even smell the weed from my bag, which I didn't notice before we crossed. Very weird experience.
Every day life here in Sweden. Can't go outside and chill because I'll be heavily fined and get a note in my records which makes employment much, much harder when looking for new jobs. Visited Amsterdam a few days in 2013 and it was such a different experience, much more enjoyable and relaxing. I could truly appreciate the flowers in its fullest and I miss that sense of complete mindfulness during the intoxication. I don't drink and that doesn't alleviate any of my physical pains from my fibromyalgia, on the contrary. But I wish I could get it prescribed here so I was allowed to walk around in public with a burning flower in hand and not get those expensive bs pills or oils. Let me be free, let me use natural products to alleviate some of the pains and health problems I have, without penalizing or terrorising me for it. It's such a crazy world we live in...
@robhernandez1827 Bro we didn't get we brag about the reason that anxiety even happens! Legalize it everywhere for everyone and that anxiety related to being caught fined and have future problems with employment will disappear
To be fair, marijuana does have significant side-effects. In my experience, it causes involuntary laughter, munchies, and causes average music to sound amazing. EDIT: I've quit weed because I realized it just blurs my mind and overall makes me lazier. Much sharper and more productive without its side residual effects. So yeah, it's not for everyone.
@@yp.2514 I know exactly what you mean, shit is quite scary :/ As I was experiencing it I was literally saying in my head "calm down, relax it'll all be over soon", then another part of me was saying "wow you're really good at keeping yourself calm" lmao
He’s drawing the wrong conclusion...a lot of already troubled kids smoke marijuana. The anger likely comes before they start, they maybe go to smoking or other drugs looking for a crutch.
nichelle kmalvous rewatch the podcast. He stresses multiple times that his argument isnt that marijuana causes violent crime. The argument is that there currently isnt enough research to say that it does not or that it reduces the crime rate. His thought is that prolonged or heavy marijuana use, can create psychosis in mentally ill or unstable individuals which may result in violent crime. Its not a blanket statement that weed causes violence.
@@watsappenin2865 man . It’s definitely a link between the two. If you out in the streetz smoking loud all day hell yea it’s a certain level of paranoia that can lead to violence .
@@watsappenin2865 I don’t think that’s the weed buddy. The rest of us are able to smoke without murderous urges. I think that’s just you. I’m gonna recommend talking to someone who isn’t on the internet about that. Sounds like you got some seriously out of balance neurochemistry. Weed is really just not strong enough of a chemical to do that to you. If you really do have reason to believe that the weed is causing your murderous thoughts you should contact someone who researches the effects of thc. (Yes they exist.) I guarantee your situation is going to be a first for them. If weed really is causing this for you, then you could be the catalyst for a groundbreaking study on the ethics of thc. Between me and you though, I really just don’t see how that’s possible.
Luke Lakatos he isn’t kidding about it. I don’t think psychosis is going to be that poplar but people are getting sick from using it too much. Compared to when many of our parents use to smoke they used about 80% less thc than we do now. Granted they did not do it as much as we do now.
I started smoking pot when I was 15. I was always mad, anxious, depressed, and being jammed with adhd meds. that’s what my generation got. Eventually I dropped the adhd meds they were jamming down my throat with everything else, and all I do now is smoke weed. I don’t drink any alcohol I don’t take any ibuprofen or shit like that when I’m sore. I’m 28 now and am a CNC programmer and shop lead for a very respectable machine shop. I’m also a father and outdoors enthusiast. Smoking weed has been a great calming factor in my life.
for me, weed actually does have a very different effect. I get very paranoid and panicky, and can't relax at all. So i just choose not to use it! it should still be legal though -- it effects different people differently, but ive never seen or heard of anyone getting violent because of it
My fridge used to be white. But since this quarantine started it's turned a shade of purplish blue, now the door squeaks and it's sticky. I hope it's ok, Idk what I would do without it.
Getting high to forget about your problems is like stepping on a nail, and leaving it in then smoking just to forget its there, evergtime you step on the nail you smoke to forget you have to take the nail out aka fix the root of the problem
I used to be a heavy cannabis user, I had to quit because it gave me anxiety and paranoia. Getting out of the house to do groceries was a mission when high.
Mr Nobody I’ve loved weed all my life and I don’t want it legal. There are certain people who shouldn’t smoke and if you can’t get weed in illegal states (I live in Kansas) than you probably aren’t accustomed to smoking. I’m down for it being decriminalized just no head shops cuz certain people that want to smoke shouldn’t cuz they make us look bad by not being able to act normal on weed
I been sober now a few months and from what I’ve come to realize is that it’s okay to indulge in smoking weed and all the problem is having no self control and over indulging. Everyone can use a break to get sober for some time in order to get right with themselves and build on their own self discipline for the better.
@@bardoodlesnoozleor a discipline check doesn’t have to be about tolerance you could just notice you’re coming across it a lot and think it’s becoming a habit let’s see if I can break it at will good or bad habit.
I recently started thinking "if the government is now OKing weed, growing it, and selling it to us, then it's probably not the greatest for the mind". I've experienced being around someone diagnosed with meth induced psychosis, I have never seen anyone trip on weed unless it had space/incense or extasy in it
@@zerofallen059 it comes in pill form. It can be crushed up and put into joints/blunts. Just like people can take fentanyl patch, open it up, scoop off the gel, and smoke it. People do weird things in drugs lol
I can't believe no one has called you out on this for over a year! Anyway, MDMA is a synthetic drug that usually comes in pill or powder form. When exposed to high temperatures, like those from smoking, it can decompose before entering the bloodstream. The intense heat required for combustion can break MDMA down into less active or inactive compounds.
Yeah I can understand getting stressed talking to pot advocates. I made the mistake of posting a very controlled study on the genesis of psychosis and cannibis one time under a Cheech and Chong FB page. Had two guys add me to messenger so they could troll me. Of course both had pics of them stoned out of their heads. For a drug that isnt addictive people sure do have an almost faithlike trust that it isnt harmful at all.
You mean your smoking didn't induce psychosis and violent anger?! That's weird...I always heard of people smoking weed and then shooting up a mall with an AK47. 🤔(By the way I'm joking,it would be funny if it weren't so damn rediculous and sad)#legalizeit
My experience with pot has only been that it calms me and allows me to focus, although my best friend as a kid had schizophrenia and whenever he would smoke, he would say things that were blatantly out of touch with reality, like thinking it would be cool to do bad things to women, or hurt his little brother, it was simply a negative thing for him, it all comes down to the way YOUR body reacts to it
But people love to generalize. “Weak minded people shouldn’t smoke because they can’t handle it. People literally pay themselves on the back comparing themselves to the schizophrenics who can’t handle weed. Like they’re better because they like weed, and some people don’t. It’s sad. If they dealt with 10% of what some people go through mentally they would realize how bad it actually is.
There are no pros to the chemical compound THC in cannabis. THC is the thing that makes people "high." THC causes psychosis and other mental health problems through the same pathway. The CBD in cannabis is actually beneficial and causes less damage to the body and mind. CBD doesnt get you "high." In todays cannabis, the THC:CBD ratio is unbelievably high, which explains why more people have horrible side effects.
@@frankwilliams5802 link me one study that shows the benefits of THC. They all continually state that it's the other cannabinoids (especially CBD) in weed that have the amazing benefits that we want. ALL THC DOES IS GET YOU HIGH. Its fucking stoners like you that will never help change the weed industry. The THC:CBD ratio is monstrous. We are smoking GMO pot.
Ivan Meza good I don’t give a fuck I’m old and succeeded in life I’m in MENTAL pain from fighting I don’t need to deal with all this shit man I want that GMO weed stronger the better so fuck you man benefits of THC I’m in a better mood instead of being my grumpy self
You clearly didn't pay attention or avoided to. Just because a study is published doesn't mean it's accurate too. He highlighted that one study was based on inaccurate data. And if you have any commons sense you would see his point. Smoking pot does not have anything to do with defending your personal space or doing your job as a cop
How does that even happen unless they are mixing the weed with harder drugs? Most people just seek more dopamine through eating and sex and feel tired. How does someone have the functionality to murder someone while using weed? I think it should be a prescription only and no smoking, only edibles that are so strong people who need it just take a nap. If it's too strong, nobody can stand up, let alone drive or assault another person. It's not good for anyone's mentality to constantly carry chronic pain. I can see where that is needed. But recreational use data shows people of all demographic and age are at risk to predators. Look at Dahmer and Gacy. They used weed to lure young men back to their car or place. It's easy to find yourself in a dangerous situation and not have the reflex to defend yourself or have a complete lack of awareness.
@@kristinguldner9473 Past traumas are a leading factor in the THC Psychosis episodes, also if you quit after using constantly can create a sense of disassociation from reality and feeling like you're not all there fully
Right like i start to get mad cause its so hard to follow speed limits and laws in that game. Like a dude jumps out in front of you its your fault and you die its like wtf lol.
PsychedelicShaman just so you know there’s certain genes that 2% of the population have that basically make you prone to psycho breaks and can trigger your schizophrenia even if you’ve never had a episode it’s most common for men around the age of 20 that’s usually when you find out which unfortunately is around the time most people are at their peak when it comes to experimentation with different drugs so obviously to just blame the drugs and more specifically the weed wouldn’t necessarily be true it be a cop out
He doesn't really know what he's talking about.. he sounds like one of those "I've never done that before but I know it's really bad." kinds of people.
First couple years of smoking it was nothing but bliss. All day every day, couldn't get enough. But as the years went on, something switched. Might've been the result of getting older, things in life having higher stakes, etc., but I started battling paranoia nearly every time. Handful of episodes I could even describe as psychosis. There's a lot of factors at play with having a good vs bad time, but when I decided to quit for good, I'd had a great day the whole day, nothing but good vibes, so I decided to capitalize on it with an end of day smoke. Wouldn't you know, it turned my great day into a panic attack. It was then I said this shit just aint worth it.
there is also a lot of phsycotic people that should not touch alcohol. it could go both ways. alcohol will always be far worse then weed. it has been proven that alcohol causes people to be angry.
@@brysongammill5182 I was going to say the exact same thing, psychotic people tend to not be able to handle alcohol either, often with worse consequences, yet alcohol is perfectly legal.
@@brysongammill5182 Certainly, the problem, though, is that the vast majority of people will agree with you that alcohol can cause mental states that are more likely to result in violence, whereas most people would disagree that marijuana can cause mental states where this is more likely. We need to be able to examine these things without shifting the focus, taking away from the point that's being discussed. Each problem deserves its own consideration.
The argument is that marijuana can create psychosis which results in violent crime with SOME individuals. It is NOT about marijuana generally causing violent behaviour in the mases. People commenting are too baked to understand the podcast lol. The guy brought up a solid argument that we need to do more research into the behavioural effects of marijuana, especially in mentally ill people, and with heavy or prolonged use.
at this point it is bucnch of angry people looking at the system that incarcerates them for ingesting natural plant life forms ... you think that will make a weird situation or what in the peoples m,inds? ... is that normal to ban nature and watch the people suffer from a lack of ingesting said nature ?
Who cares if his argument is mentally ill people can be affected, it's so low. on top of it we would have to ban alcohol, prescription drugs etc. Plus you can't corelate a single case to his point.
@@kalmykdude and to mess all of that guys views up = Cannabis helps the mentally insane people of the world ... it just does ... certain Varietals of cannabis plant even more so. Cannabis is a very diverse and sophisticated plant that cannot be placed into one category ETC......
This guy is an absolute troglodyte dont defend him. We’ve seen what pot does to people over the long term willy nelsons like 100 years old already and im pretty sure he hasnt murdered anyone
As someone who has smoked heavily and became psychotic due to it, this guy is right. However, there is no reason to believe weed is more harmful than any other drug or addiction
Bantu African i like how he litterally says there is no real healthy human we all have some form of disorders. he just sucks at arguing but it's hard to be good when your point is trying to parent grown ass people by saying don't smoke weed you'll be a killer.
@@shawnryan1313 I never said people don’t have bad reactions to it. If it affects you badly that’s your problem but to most people like me it is an absolute life saver. I used to have epilepsy until I got on medical marijuana. I’m now 3 years seizure free. Ur the joke.
@@THESHINIGAMIPOSSE why do you and so many other people feel so offended when weed is talked about in any other way besides worship or praise?? It’s not the greatest thing in the world for all of humanity, you should get checked into a rehab center or something.
@@99mattdogg what would rehab do? It’s just a medication that does nothing but good for me at the end of the day. If it doesn’t do anything for you I couldn’t care less. I get offended because it’s people bashing it that gives it the stigma that it doesn’t need. There shouldn’t be a debate in the first place
@@THESHINIGAMIPOSSE Again, it’s not the greatest thing in the world for all of humanity.. Practice your critical reading skills man, your mad ass response indicates an addict being defensive lmao.
I had a psychotic/depressive break due to weed a few years ago, all negative symptoms went away after quitting. I'm pro legalization I just think people need to realize that weed isn't harmless.
lol these comments are pathetic... as a daily weed smoker for over 7 years i can 100% GUARANTEE YOU that shit can mess with your head. Moderation is key but a lot of people don't have discipline. I have seen people become paronoid and more aggressive from constant weed use or due to a lack of weed... If you think smoking all day everyday aint gonna have no effects on ur mental health you're a FOOL
@@shipdrop7690 of course but you can't throw the baby out with the bath water, if you drink coffee all day you're gonna be irritable and twitchy, if you drink booze all day you're gonna be lethargic, angry and sick. If you bang adderall all day you're gonna be paranoid and restless. I also definitely abused weed and it had negative effects on my mind but I can't control myself as well as my friends who are totally fine and still use it, so I did the right thing and quit, because it didn't work in my favor. Personal responsibility is key over anything
@@shipdrop7690 too much of anything isn't good for you. Weed can definitely make you paranoid. I've smoked every day for about a decade now and it really helps my ptsd and social anxiety. It helps me function better and more.logically but everyone is different don't disagree with you
You clearly dont suffer from any serious mental illness then. I personally know people in my life that have had bad psychosis and others worsened schitz symptoms
yep, I must say I heard one French Doctor saying that there were many people taking Antidepressants we're actually committing murder and he says too that these drugs are affecting the brain in some way that the Scientific community even didn't know what really does ...
I have to say I had a lot of childhood traumas and I was always diagnosed as a high risk child for psychosis. My uncle and my dad both have a big psychosis history, almost my whole family has a history of substance misuse also. I don’t drink alcohol, I don’t smoke tobacco, but I have been smoking weed for over 10 years now ( since I was 12 ) . I was a menace to society since a child but my smoking habits have really calmed me down. I never had a psychosis myself. When I travel, it happens that I just don’t touch any weed for like 10 days and it doesn’t make me withdraw at all.. Doesn’t bother me.. it’s interesting. I just seem to have stronger anxiety than what I normally have when I do smoke. I will admit that doing heavy edibles is the worst thing you can do if you are not in the right state of mind for it, or on the right place. They make you extremely paranoid and if you have anxiety it’s just a disaster 🤣 Since a child I saw so much pain and stress from hard drugs and alcohol, but I always looked at weed as if it was a medicine.
I have a similar past, lots of abuse as a child and i am a daily user. I’ve found the same thing with travel that I’ll not have any weed but I’ll still be happy and comfortable. There’s a lot of research coming out that says addiction has a lot to do with your environment, I’m wondering if a change of environment might help my underlying issues as well as my dependence on cannabis
Same bro… same. But after 5-6 years of smoking weed non stop all I took was one spliff at 3am while going through heightend paranoia to put me in a psychotic episode… a very bad one. My advice to you brother get off the weed and leave it alone.🙏🏼
@@sweetwaterbadrap7443 thats stupid 80% of schizoprenics smoked ciggaretes so nicotine cause schizoprenia?. and a lot of schizoprenics abuse drugs, theres no info that proves anything If was the drugs abuse that cause or they already had it
Wow this is actually the calmest debate ive ever seen. People nowadays have a propensity to just not listen to people who have differing opinions. I like how they did this, a fair debate.
I can't understand people who don't want to hear different opinions like for me I'm always open to being challenged on what I believe and I find it very interesting and even fun
I don’t think so. He’s passionate about this subject because of what he’s seen and how it is affecting people. I feel the same way because I get to deal with these kids and young adults who have obviously jacked up their synapses from heavy pot smoking.
@@slanttwo naw dude I think it's something else. He is extremely dismissed multiple facts being told from certified sources. I get being passionate but he's just being stubborn.
@Goatbe Bryant Could well be a possibility if you started smoking at 11. Brain is under massive construction at that age, plus most kids are still finding out who they are never mind taking mind altering drugs. Get what you mean tho, a good or bad experience will happen to someone, then they'll take their subjective experience with the drug and regard it as universal. Like when you see people who try weed for the first time and have a bad reaction (throwing up, paranoia, anxiety etc) and their view will instantly be switched to anti weed/legalization. Same goes for people who want it legal and readily available just because THEY have a good reaction. No one is the center of the world and both extreme ends of the anti and pro weed scale are equally pointless. Research and attitude to weed would improve of people looked at it objectively rather than going round in circles looking for a black and white answer to weed and it's effects.
what about CBD that comes from "weed" which shows anti psychotic properties and no recreational potential... 500mg CBD could be better than any anti psychotic on the market because of its lack of side effects when compared with typical anti psychotics
@@Sam-me5pl CBD does have anti psychotic properties, the problem is that modern weed is cherry picked to have a higher concentration of THC and lower concentration of CBD
@@levibull6063 I do it only when I just got out one building and I’m on my way to another building. Not gonna keep on placing my mask on and off every few minutes it’s easier to keep it on it’s just a damn piece of cloth. Not like it’s doing anything for the virus it’s just to keep y’all happy.
I have a loved one who went through drug induced Psychosis - she’s is absolutely not the same. If you haven’t seen it happen you won’t believe it, I was one who used to think weed was harmless
Same , until you see a loved one or your child go through this you wldnt believe it but it’s very clear when your in it that it’s psychosis from weed and or drugs. The paranoia is so extreme an delusions, they aren’t themselves it’s scary.
Willy G Rags yeah you seem pretty closed off to the idea that pot can have any negative side effects at all let alone that it’s not good for psychotic people which seems pretty self explanatory to me.
"Associated". You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means. Dihydrogen monoxide use is associated with 100% of violent criminals. Association is not the same thing as causation.
What he's saying is, its more likely and its true! Ive seen it around me i just quit smoking everyday all day and im so much less paranoid and i realise that people dont hate me like i thought.
I’ve had my ups and downs smoking weed with psychosis. The vast majority of pot smokers tend to have a great and relaxing experience without any intentions of hurting anyone like I did throughout high school. It wasn’t until I got into college and noticed I had been developing psychosis like some of my family members did I realize I needed to stop smoking. Whenever I would smoke in late college I’d feel very hot and cold and would start heavily sweating while feeling extremely paranoid. I love how this podcast emphasizes that it truly depends on the person and that weed is a great medicine for the majority of ppl, however for a smaller percentage with mental issues like psychosis or schizophrenia, it can really easily sway ur brain into a psychosis state for those who are already experiencing symptoms. I personally think pot should be legalized recreationally as even though 1% of ppl who smoke with paranoid psychosis have a high chance of getting violent, the other 99% tend to have euphoric affects without any intent of hurting anyone.
What he said was 100% true though. He obviously had bias but was more objective and had better studies then the other guy who was acting lien he was educated on the subject. There nothing wrong with occasionally smoking weed but you make your life it and protect it to the death.
@@benjamin1403 I think what you’re referring to is addictive personality disorder and that comes from genetics, you can be addicted to anything even sugar or caffeine but that doesn’t really have anything to do with the points this guy kept making about studies from early 1900s about cannabis saying that it causes psychosis, psyzchophrenia, and violent crime. These mental disorders are caused by genetics and people have these already going on in their brains just because smoking weed brings it out In people that already have a propensity for mental illness doesn’t mean it should be illegal or that it means that it causes mental illness it just brings it out in people that would already have mental illnesses. You are no different than this guy in the video who is just pulling information that is irrelevant and represents his biased ideas.
Steven B The DSM IV used by mental health professionals is the agreed upon primary reference used to diagnose the minority percentage of the population with mild to chronic mental sickness. These professionals also agree that psychoactive drugs elevate or unmask symptoms.
I think it enhances what's already there. If you're insecure it can make you paranoid. If you're positive, it can make you fun to be around. If you're talented, it can make you more creative. I think everyone has met all types.
I wish this were true. Psychiatric meds certainly lowered my inhibitions. I’d have hallucinations & problems with perception of reality, but I wasn’t having any thoughts or considerations in harming people until I was on psych meds. They took away the lowest lows, but also took away all highs-All rewards for doing good, all happiness, pleasure. Made everything meaningless & really just made me not care. Life didn’t feel worth living on psych meds. People not on them can’t understand.
I just abruptly stop taking them. I was sleeping from 12 to 18 hours a day. And obviously I have a life to live. So I stopped taking them, it’s been 3 now and I feel happier and more motivated to do stuff. Still though am having very unordinary and violent thoughts, not that I would EVER act on them, there’s still a few hints of psychosis still in me. It’s hard to differentiate what causes what. That’s the reason I’ve been so troubled in finding who I am as a person since every major episode I have completely changed who I am.
I was on benzodiazepines and antipsychotics for 6 yrs and you can't go off cold turkey, you have to taper off and cut the dose every 2-3wks before you stop.
Moderation(maintaining) is always the key to ANYTHING. Simple as that. Control your thoughts. Don't dwell on shit and live a healthy life and you should be fine.
The problem is even not having a huge amount can trigger psychosis and schizophrenia in people who have never had it before. So there’s always a risk. People like this curly haired guy are just swinging the pendulum the other way since a lot of potheads think weed it perfectly safe and reduces crime
He’s just explaining what weed does. It enhances how you feel, more than likely aggressive people are going to commit crimes regardless. Doesn’t matter if they smoke weed or not. Not just black and white.
Great point! Even the quantity/quality of the weed can affect you differently depending on your aggression. Just smoke and wait and repeat until the violence & aggression dissipates. Trust me it will...
It's not quite that simple. I loved weed when I was younger but I grew out of it because it made me feel unproductive. The last few times I smoked I had unpleasant anxiety and the reason why is because I associate cannabis with me being lazy and not caring about what is happening in the real world. Being stoned gives me a horrible feeling of deja vu now, and I don't want to fall back into that rut
@taliwakka27 I'm exactly the same way but we aren't the norm. I'm jealous too....I was in medical marijuana for a decade. It helped 💯 of thousands of ppl. It made my problems worse. Then it got commercialized & well it's sad. My brother combat vet, Ptsd, hates drugs (pharma) just tried " this is ridiculous I feel like I'm 15, but I feel better" 🤷♀️
i smoked for years, teenage into late 20's and until recently its never given me psychosis or paranoia. I CANNOT use weed anymore because it induces horrible panic attacks for me now. i feel like im dying.
@Josh Gaspar you can't be addicted to weed, not physically anyways. Yes it causes some paranoia but there's no evidence that it causes homicides nor suicides.
@Josh Gaspar so you met a guy in a psychward and you believe that he had some beers and weed now he's just crazy? Bro cmon you didn't just try to use a dude for your example that is literally in a psychward. Yes, but its not a physical addiction. You won't get the shakes from not having it for too long like with physical addiction.
@Josh Gaspar well that was quite literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard, that dude doesn't know if weed is why he's in and out of psychwards and from the way you make it sound he's only done once or only a couple times. You truly think that's going to make him crazy? Oh and you said he had alcohol how come that isn't the reason? Exactly. You are trying to push an agenda, you are grasping at straws.
That old maxim goes more like "Correlation does not necessarily imply causation." On a small or incidental scale any correlations merit the parsing of many variables and confounding data. While this approach will always hold true for any scientific method analysis, the larger and larger the scale and scope of correlating data points become, the more narrow the causal relations become as well. At the end of the day, there is still an inference for a conclusion occurring, but this is the very bedrock of empirical data study.
Ye nah if u know any weed smokers personally when they don't have cones they can get violent I smoke weed extremely often and have been around many violent smokers same goes for any substance abuse being high all the time no matter what it is is bad
@@dylanwatson7392 if someone gets violent when they dont have weed then there's something other than weed wrong with them, only people I've known like that are schizophrenic or have quite bad bipolar. Too much of anything is bad obviously, but it takes a lot of weed or the "right" person to cause psychosis or any mental health issues
There are plenty of studeis showing that there is indeed a causal link between violent behavior and marijuana use, I have seen the data and it is tremendously strong. It amazes me that the defense of users is that must have been do to something else, the person was already unstable, what about ... and so on. The same people that say this dont even bother to read the studies, they just dismiss it without reviewing it.I can personally say that when I used to smoke I would have periods of irritability which all disappeared after quitting.
There's a difference between cannabis making people violent and violent people smoking cannabis. If you're violent to start with then the chances are you'll be violent after you smoke cannabis. I know some long term prisoners, many of whom have committed murder, who swear that cannabis makes them more calm and level headed. Stats can be misleading or interpreted to suit your own agenda and sometimes fail to make connections between cause and effect.. Poor people smoking cannabis and robbing people is not the same as cannabis making you violent enough to commit these crimes. I'm certainly no expert but I have been around this stuff all my life and I agree that some people should not smoke cannabis but you can say that about almost every substance known to man, especially alcohol.
If u crazy, drinking an orange juice will still keep ya crazy. His argument makes no sense to people with a healthy mind. And Joe's peanut argument made him speechless for a minute, coz it brakes apart all the book he's trying to sell here, which is based on researches from 1908 etc. Nice
Only had a decent time on weed once or twice in my life. Other times when I smoke it I don’t feel real I look at myself in the mirror and feel fake or even when I got outside and look at everything it changed my perception on everything. Smoking weed gives me the worst anxiety that you can imagine I’ve been in some fucked up situations and the anxiety and disconnection I got on weed is worse. I definitely think weed changed my mindset on how I see reality now, even for instance normal conversations with other people feel weird. I wish I never smoked weed
What I learned from Smoking weed. When you’re high and that paranoia creeps up you have to be honest with yourself and the people you’re smoking with. Our Egos get In the way and cause all these disorders and negative action. That’s when repression happens. Also you have to take in consideration the upbringing. I grew up in a violent home and environment. I’ve learned to be calm under pressure! With that skill I was able to asses my high and thoughts. There are others who learned this on their own in different upbringings. There are those who don’t have the ability to chill at all. These people can easily act on their thoughts and paranoia. I feel we definitely need to teach how to smoke weed and how to properly express yourself when high and asses thoughts. I definitely don’t believe everyone should smoke however, I believe everyone can smoke if taught correctly and if they are honest with themselves and others.
Exactly! Violent tendencies have way more to do with your upbringing and predisposition. Weed is not gonna make someone homicidal just like playing video games is not gonna make someone homicidal. As marijuana becomes legalized in more places there hopefully will be more in depth research done and a more widespread understanding of marijuana's effects.
This is the only comment on this video that is correct and useful. All of the other comments are making fun of the fact about schitz etc. They need to learn not everyone gets it
Loved your insight bro🙏 I'm going through these thoughts as I type. Myself for instance I have anxiety issues that I deal with,Marijuana did used to help those issues but after smoking heavy for months it's actually made things 10x worst.
Xavier086 what’s up Brotha! Thanks for the honesty! That’s the first step to calming your mind. Check this out, you’re not your thoughts at all! As easy as they come is as easy as they go. You have to be disciplined enough to not let yourself run wild with no objective. Take up mindfulness. The first step a Buddha takes to becoming a Buddha is mindfulness meditation . With that said, the first step to mindfulness is breathing. When you take a deep breath you’re fully aware of yourself. With that awareness, apply it to your thoughts. Observe your thoughts like a pedestrian observing traffic. You see a car you like you follow it- You see a car you don’t like you let it pass. Now my friend, treat your thoughts as that. I know your mental capacity can get full with all the stuff life throws at you. When this happens we look for a release. Weed can be that release only if you’re in control of yourself when using it. Weed is a amplifier in a sense. So imagine it amplifying your thoughts if your not aware of it for a long period of time it will torment you. With all that said, I hope this is useful and you calm your mind. Remember life itself outside the social constructs is a beautiful place. Don’t get trapped in your mind unless you’re there on demand.
@Joe damn I click your profile and see your 3 most recent comments and you're going at people on every one. You must get a kick off going at people in the youtube comments. You're the clown and you don't even realise. Shame
For sure. Everyone seems to be hating on this guy but he does make some decent points about weed use in people with serious mental illnesses. Especially about using cannabis with stimulants. That can cause paranoia from 2 different angles. So he isn't right about everything but if you hear him out he isnt an idiot and he knows he is not taking the popular opinion route so I respect him.
When I was younger I was a heavily drug user specifically psychodelics. Now I think it was no good I abused it and started at such young age. But also it open my mind a lot and helped me with creativity. I think psychodelics don't make you better neither worst... As long as you are mature, responsible person. The is no harm in trying just as there is no harm on having some beer with your mates. The key is to not abuse, to do it responsable and know your acts always have a consequence.
When I smoke, I get a migraine, worst nausea and non psychotic hallucinations 🤷♂️ But that's me I wouldn't claim everyone's gonna die due to it, people even get better pain managment for cluster headaches with pot
I smoked weed for 6 straight years and never been a violent, paranoid person, I super rarely touched alcohol since as weed suits me better unlike alcohol which triggers me to do some things I wouldn't do while I'm high in weed. I just stopped because it's still illegal in our country which sucks and I might lose my job because of the random drug testing.
Errrrm ... great question actually, I'm not sure. You could be in a situation where people are out to get you yet you just don't give a shit. Therefore, being classified as being 'not paranoid despite the very real situation you are in'. It depends if you define the word 'paranoid' as being a mental disorder as Violet Kimiko suggests or simply just as an emotion or attitude. :P
@@pob3987 it is when he's calling weed bad meanwhile he's attempting to take a neutral stance on a literal poison just because it's already accepted in wider society. and this is coming from someone who likes a good glass of kvass with a joint for dinner
@@pob3987 Hmmm so I wonder if alcohol possibly triggers violence or dare I say high rape stats too? Lol maybe all drugs come with risk factors and instead of targeting one, maybe Mr. Carpethead can do real research and compare the risk factors to all drugs including the legal ones.
He's drawing the wrong conclusion. People probably smoked because it was a treatment to them for their existing psychosis, not that weed causes you to go crazy
I don't think he's saying it causes you to go crazy. He's saying for those who have psychosis that it could potentially have an effect to make them worse.
The debate on this production is exactly why I love what Joe Rogan is doing and why I feel that it is more important to society than any government social program.
The violent crimes in Alaska are always rising, I heard of one murder happening last year in the capital (but it’s significantly smaller, only 32,000 people roughly) and it didn’t have to do with drugs at all. I think meth is a bigger problem and induces permanent psychosis much more often than weed, but those people almost always have specific issues with weed where it brings on paranoia and claim they cannot smoke anymore. There is also a huge huge lack of mental health facilities in the state that I personally feel like is keeping people with these issues homeless. I think the biggest factor is people are desperate and have no where to go here. It’s expensive to leave and if you already can’t pay the rent, the only way you’re getting out of the state is getting your life on track or going to federal prison.
In my opinion, all psychedelics have a chance to give you psychosis and paranoia. That being send, it all depends on if the person already had these to begin with. And being aware in a existencial way is always risk at being mentally unwell. Life sucks. But its still life. Taking the filter off can drive people nuts.
Agreed, as someone that fell to drug abusing dabs,alcohol and psychedelics iv recently been feeling like iv been falling into psychosis. Even though I have been clean from all of it for a month now the feeling of being murdered and overall paranoia has really been putting an effect and as somone who came from a sober mindset 2 years ago and being as aware as I am to see what is happening I can’t help but continue to believe these delusions and out of the ordinary ideas that I think are completely true no matter how much I try to think otherwise. Imo I feel as tho from my experiences psychedelics was the main cause followed by the abusing dabs multiple times everyday didn’t help the fact of what’s currently going on. I can’t give a say on weed just because as soon as I quit everything a month ago it wasn’t the thing that tipped me over in feeling like the way I do it was dabs but I will say I don’t think it was what caused it originally even tho I feel like that was a factor in it. But yes it will drive you nuts if you can’t put mind over matter I can’t tell you how many times iv thought and currently think my food was poisoned, thought I was getting set up, thought people where out to get me and even looking out my window every 30 mins bc i think I heard somone pulled into my driveway to get me so far to the point I live in fear not knowing if tonight’s gonna be my last to where I keep a knife on me 24/7 for my safety of myself bc I’m so worried I’m gonna get got. But considering I’m 19 iv only started feeling this way sence the beginning of March and shi don’t feel real sometimes tbh but life goes on and there isn’t too much you can do other than therapy or meds but I’m trying to work on it by overcoming and adapting to it. But iv never had a test done or anything but just based off all the signs such as paranoia,delusions,music and tv talking to me,consistently recurring numbers, hearing things and recently starting to see stuffs not like people but like inanimate things? Idk it’s hard to explain. On top of being extremely gullible that has a fucked up family that can’t really trust anybody I can’t help but feel as if I’m losing it a bit lmao but that’s my take from my mindset currently from a “psychosis” perspective didn’t think I’d be giving a essay on a rand as post from a comment from a month ago but here we are😭✋ idk makes me feel good to talk abt it in a way
@@thomassmith6931 same bro I haven’t been the same since and I haven’t smoked in 3 years . I used to smoke a lot of carts I was high every single day and went to sleep high . I have general anxiety now and can’t really be around a lot of people plus everything looks weird and different it’s strange
Weed isn't a psychedelic... and I think you'll find while psychedelics *do* incurr a risk of psychosis and paranoia, the statistics I've found (amazingly!) have that much lower than weed.
@@queenieqt2033 weed doesn't make you hallucinate. Just because the government labels it so, the same government that came out with ridiculous reefer madness propaganda... doesn't mean it is.
I had a roommate who was severely schizophrenic, and whenever he smoked weed that wasn't mids he went crazy, babbling nonsense, paranoid behavior, running around in circles. His brain could NOT handle it pretty much at all.
Personally, I have anger issues and I've been on the verge of fighting on plenty occasions BUT once I hit a joint or a blunt my ass sits down and I feel like my testosterone just lowers to the point where I just eat and play video games. Idk. Weed has rationalized me many times. But that's just my personal case.
The fact that you think lowering your testosterone, eating junk and playing more video games is positive makes me believe that you are irrational. I smoked for 7 years straight up until recently, and that conclusion of yours sounds like the same lies that I used to tell myself to defend my addiction. I mean, just because you get too lazy to get into a fight doesn't mean you've solved anything, you're just masking a problem with another problem.
I never stated that I eat junk. And I don't mean to be a keyboard warrior but I'm definitely not lazy to fight. When I was younger I was more impetuous and impulsive to capitalize on problems and seize the opportunity to fight. I enjoyed it lol it's just now when I get ramped up I'll smoke and getting high slows my thinking down, I rationalize and realize it's not worth fighting because it can lead to bigger issues, like getting in trouble with the law.
I smoked for 3 years, got pretty heavy but it caused me to get severe paranoia and anxiety so I quit. Since I quit I've had absolutely no dramas, but once in a while (8-12 months) I'll try a joint again, I'm talking like one spliff, and bang - exact same thing. That's just my experience but I think if it works for you go for it, but I don't think the drug is entirely safe imo.
@@gasbaroni How horrible kicking that addiction must have been. Did you vomit and shake uncontrollably? Did you lash out and hurt people? Damn man. You had a bad habit. Calling it an addiction is a huge slap in the face to people who have to kick shit like alcohol, opiates or even fucking cigarettes.
@@SavageHenry777 I definitely agree with you but people can still be addicted to marijuana, its just more of a mental thing honestly. In my opinon weed can also be a gateway drug depending on whether or not the person is smoking the weed to get high or actually smoking because it helps them get through the day.
When I smoked weed in Amsterdam where I knew I wouldn't get arrested and people wouldn't give me a weird look for looking high all of a sudden the paranoia was gone. The plant doesn't make me paranoid, the fact that I could get caught does.
Why does this comment not have more likes
@@TheHotToke216 Haha thanks bro, I still stand by that statement. It's relieving to smoke weed where it's legal and more or less socially acceptable.
imagine not living in Canada
there absolutely is a correlation between doing a drug in a society where that drug is maligned and having a bad experience with that drug.
@@nielsssg I bet it was amazing in amsterdam
People with certain mental health issues shouldn't be having any mind altering substances. Period
With the exception of psychadelics perhaps. Studies show tremendous positive results for mentally ill people.
Mushrooms are an exception
Mentally ill people is way to broad. Shrooms might help with anxiety disorders or depression, but might enhance the frequency or even initiation of psychoses/ schizophrenia.
@@codyminecrack248 That's simply wrong. People with a family history of schizophrenia, psychosis, or bipolar disorder should absolutely stay away from psychedelics or recreational drugs of any kind, including cannabis. Psychedelic therapy has had positive results for certain specific disorders, like substance abuse and PTSD, no doubt. But to generalize these experiences to all mental illnesses is dangerous. It's becoming clear that people with the most propensity to develop schizophrenia in their lifetime (men under roughly 25 years old, especially those with a family history of schizophrenia) should stay as far away from psychedelics and cannabis as possible.
@@Justin-rm6su ya you dont want people that are in their heads to be more in their heads. Especially with the weird thoughts they already have flowing through there. Depression and what not surs ya 100% itll help. But if youre already mentally ill id stay away from any medication. Only solution would be meditation in some isolated areas.
All I know is when I smoke i actually think about my actions way more and I’m calmer and choose the most laid back and safe option in any situation. Sharp on point always
That's because you are addicted.
When people stop taking heroin they start getting nauseous and sick. So, the continue taking heroin and go back to being healthy. Therefore, heroin must be good for you.
Maxwell Hubbard I don’t see any correlation between what they said and what you said. Like any correlation whatsoever.
@@sweatypalmz2812 all the people who say they have clearer thinking or feel calmer on weed. Feel so because they have used it so much to the point where the body feels that is normal. The same goes towards heroin. I am not directly comparing the two drugs, because one withdrawls make you feel like you are dying. Another example would be xanax. If you are taking xanax recreationally, and stop. You actually develop symptoms of anxiety.
@@maxwellhubbard2749 that actually makes sense. Your body has become dependent on it and when you try to stop your body expresses withdrawal behaviors, basically.
@@chrisoher I have had a couple of breaks now, and I must say. Smoking from one day and stopping the other goes quite well. I never had any withdrawal behaviors. When I tried stopping with sigarettes I get serious withdrawal effect. Chew on that mister know it all without ever have done it yourself ;)
I'm Dutch, weed is "legal" here for all my life and I'm a regular smoker. Never get paranoid. Last November I went to Germany for a weekend off, where weed is illegal. I had some weed on me tho. The moment the train crossed the border, I got paranoid. I could even smell the weed from my bag, which I didn't notice before we crossed. Very weird experience.
Great example ive felt like this my whole life here in California.
Every day life here in Sweden. Can't go outside and chill because I'll be heavily fined and get a note in my records which makes employment much, much harder when looking for new jobs. Visited Amsterdam a few days in 2013 and it was such a different experience, much more enjoyable and relaxing. I could truly appreciate the flowers in its fullest and I miss that sense of complete mindfulness during the intoxication. I don't drink and that doesn't alleviate any of my physical pains from my fibromyalgia, on the contrary. But I wish I could get it prescribed here so I was allowed to walk around in public with a burning flower in hand and not get those expensive bs pills or oils. Let me be free, let me use natural products to alleviate some of the pains and health problems I have, without penalizing or terrorising me for it. It's such a crazy world we live in...
@robhernandez1827 Bro we didn't get we brag about the reason that anxiety even happens! Legalize it everywhere for everyone and that anxiety related to being caught fined and have future problems with employment will disappear
Thank you mann
To be fair, marijuana does have significant side-effects.
In my experience, it causes involuntary laughter, munchies, and causes average music to sound amazing.
EDIT: I've quit weed because I realized it just blurs my mind and overall makes me lazier. Much sharper and more productive without its side residual effects. So yeah, it's not for everyone.
Lmfao
That last part is true about anything from movies to the trees in my backyard
Ya weed psychosis is rly not fun speaking from experience
@@yp.2514 I know exactly what you mean, shit is quite scary :/ As I was experiencing it I was literally saying in my head "calm down, relax it'll all be over soon", then another part of me was saying "wow you're really good at keeping yourself calm" lmao
OG KUSH been there, done that. Now it’s a once in a few months :P better to stick with PROPANE
He’s drawing the wrong conclusion...a lot of already troubled kids smoke marijuana. The anger likely comes before they start, they maybe go to smoking or other drugs looking for a crutch.
Yes!! I was thinking the same thing
He knows hes just pushing his agenda
A lot of people who have schizophrenia, or violent tendencies smoke weed to chill out. I bet it helps more than anything.
Yes... all that can be proven... is that, 99.99% of psychotic people... are STILL psychotic when they smoke weed.
nichelle kmalvous rewatch the podcast. He stresses multiple times that his argument isnt that marijuana causes violent crime. The argument is that there currently isnt enough research to say that it does not or that it reduces the crime rate. His thought is that prolonged or heavy marijuana use, can create psychosis in mentally ill or unstable individuals which may result in violent crime. Its not a blanket statement that weed causes violence.
This guy is definitely a step dad
Best comment iv seen
He's got the step dad attitude mhm
you a definitely a lil spoiled bitch of a kid
100%
right? - nope I had a rich step dad but rich step dad doesn’t mean rich step son lol
Smoking a big ass joint while watching.....now imma go murder all the food in the fridge.
😅
Kill in your name aswell. You dangerous
I know this is a year old but what did you eat?
Ice cream is my REAL addiction 😂😂
Joe is being so nicely unbiased despite his evident love for getting baked
Regan Ross word
That’s how debates work, you allow both sides of the story even if you do that thing. It allows for reasoning.
And throwing in some good comedy in there 😂 @13:02
Lmao no I agree he was get frustrated
But holding still being open
I can feel the salt in the room but joe keeps it respectful.
@@watsappenin2865 then you need help
@@nickmccormick457 gang gang
nice way to put it..
@@watsappenin2865 man . It’s definitely a link between the two. If you out in the streetz smoking loud all day hell yea it’s a certain level of paranoia that can lead to violence .
@@watsappenin2865 I don’t think that’s the weed buddy. The rest of us are able to smoke without murderous urges. I think that’s just you. I’m gonna recommend talking to someone who isn’t on the internet about that. Sounds like you got some seriously out of balance neurochemistry. Weed is really just not strong enough of a chemical to do that to you. If you really do have reason to believe that the weed is causing your murderous thoughts you should contact someone who researches the effects of thc. (Yes they exist.) I guarantee your situation is going to be a first for them. If weed really is causing this for you, then you could be the catalyst for a groundbreaking study on the ethics of thc. Between me and you though, I really just don’t see how that’s possible.
This guy seems more likely to kill somebody than any stoner i've ever met
Luke Lakatos he isn’t kidding about it. I don’t think psychosis is going to be that poplar but people are getting sick from using it too much. Compared to when many of our parents use to smoke they used about 80% less thc than we do now. Granted they did not do it as much as we do now.
@@liwric wht do you mean by sick
Nah I got the Canadian dude
legittherunner condition called chs. Cannabinoid hyperemis syndrome.
Shit :)))))))))))
I started smoking pot when I was 15. I was always mad, anxious, depressed, and being jammed with adhd meds. that’s what my generation got. Eventually I dropped the adhd meds they were jamming down my throat with everything else, and all I do now is smoke weed. I don’t drink any alcohol I don’t take any ibuprofen or shit like that when I’m sore. I’m 28 now and am a CNC programmer and shop lead for a very respectable machine shop. I’m also a father and outdoors enthusiast. Smoking weed has been a great calming factor in my life.
That’s not healthy to start regularly using THC at 15.
I run marathons bro
Machinist squad
@@j-mAkesSh7tdoesnt matter bro dont fck up your brain developer
Taking adhd meds at that age or younger has to be worse. Amphetamine is a hard drug no doubt. 🐸
let’s be honest, who really feels like hurting someone after smoking a J. definitely not me. 😴
Bang on. If everyone in the world got high who would wanna kill anyone?
AYAN swear, the only thing I’m hurting is my lungs.
for me, weed actually does have a very different effect. I get very paranoid and panicky, and can't relax at all.
So i just choose not to use it! it should still be legal though -- it effects different people differently, but ive never seen or heard of anyone getting violent because of it
@G G i know you CAN... point im trying to make is who WANTS to?
you can smoke a zip and still not feel violent.
It's a fact pot heads abuse their fridge.
🤣
That sum bitch is always empty, and gets filled up over and over again. I eat a weeks worth of food in 3 days lol.
It's a symbiotic relationship
My fridge used to be white. But since this quarantine started it's turned a shade of purplish blue, now the door squeaks and it's sticky. I hope it's ok, Idk what I would do without it.
You are not wrong
When I smoke the last thing I want to do is start any problems 😂 you'll ruin your high
Exactly smh
💯💯💯
And I continue to do it 😂🙃
Bro fr. I want to start problems when I’m drunk. Not when I’m high
Getting high to forget about your problems is like stepping on a nail, and leaving it in then smoking just to forget its there, evergtime you step on the nail you smoke to forget you have to take the nail out aka fix the root of the problem
I used to be a heavy cannabis user, I had to quit because it gave me anxiety and paranoia. Getting out of the house to do groceries was a mission when high.
So don’t do it before you go shopping
@@monstermogar5597 yup, not good when you have to do chores etc so I cut-down to one late night joint, to kick back and listen to some music.
Try Indica at nights
And for others like me, getting groceries without a hit before going in is a mission🤷🏼♀️
@@monstermogar5597 hes killing his wallet to goin to the store high buy a bunch more shit that u dont need and with the price of food now.
Did this guy really say he thinks more people die from weed than peanut reactions..??
Ricky Fever More people die from the murders committed while high than peanut allergies
Ricky Fever yeah he’s ignorant
Bolddiggity Gaming Read my comment
Troxic Beatz you’re tripping. The only thing I’d kill while stoned is a glazed doughnut
Ricky Fever Yeah then he aint talking bout stoners like you
This interview was over at "peanuts"
Because the other stopped listening? The critic on marijuana made some good points and I'm for legalizing it.
Pretty sure there was like 30 minutes or so worth of interview directly after that though.
reddog24playa1 lol
A C lmao he lost me at ganja triggers homicide 😂😂
Mr Nobody I’ve loved weed all my life and I don’t want it legal. There are certain people who shouldn’t smoke and if you can’t get weed in illegal states (I live in Kansas) than you probably aren’t accustomed to smoking. I’m down for it being decriminalized just no head shops cuz certain people that want to smoke shouldn’t cuz they make us look bad by not being able to act normal on weed
I been sober now a few months and from what I’ve come to realize is that it’s okay to indulge in smoking weed and all the problem is having no self control and over indulging. Everyone can use a break to get sober for some time in order to get right with themselves and build on their own self discipline for the better.
As a over user I totally agree
In other words, a tolerance break
@@bardoodlesnoozleor a discipline check doesn’t have to be about tolerance you could just notice you’re coming across it a lot and think it’s becoming a habit let’s see if I can break it at will good or bad habit.
I recently started thinking "if the government is now OKing weed, growing it, and selling it to us, then it's probably not the greatest for the mind". I've experienced being around someone diagnosed with meth induced psychosis, I have never seen anyone trip on weed unless it had space/incense or extasy in it
Ecstasy in weed? Lol
@@zerofallen059 it comes in pill form. It can be crushed up and put into joints/blunts. Just like people can take fentanyl patch, open it up, scoop off the gel, and smoke it. People do weird things in drugs lol
@fjejaowodnfjrie nobody does that, it wouldn't even work the heat would destroy it. You can't smoke ecstasy
I can't believe no one has called you out on this for over a year! Anyway, MDMA is a synthetic drug that usually comes in pill or powder form. When exposed to high temperatures, like those from smoking, it can decompose before entering the bloodstream. The intense heat required for combustion can break MDMA down into less active or inactive compounds.
@@SuperrBludgerit's probably because noone cares tbh lol. And she wasn't smoking it, she was shooting it up. But, okay.
Grew up with a guy that started smoking weed when we were 11, he’s a surgeon now
And he probably stopped during college.
Alvin Walters i drank a gallon of milk and grew tits
Crazy Bobert fuckin soy BOY 😂 /s
@Alvin Walters 🤣🤣🤣
Alvin Walters dhot bro
This is wholesome, these guys disagree pretty adamantly but can still share a good laugh. Good stuff.
give the dude a few puffs bro he lookn hella stressed
im afraid he would die from the sheer embarrassment when he finds out what hes been missing lol.
Lol especially when he’s like wining when he’s not talking
No. He's just fighting against a very hard core group of people and so he became stupified by the way they combat his points
Yeah I can understand getting stressed talking to pot advocates. I made the mistake of posting a very controlled study on the genesis of psychosis and cannibis one time under a Cheech and Chong FB page. Had two guys add me to messenger so they could troll me. Of course both had pics of them stoned out of their heads. For a drug that isnt addictive people sure do have an almost faithlike trust that it isnt harmful at all.
No u
Addiction is soul destroying no matter what it is.
Bot
@Kali Yuga Surf Club same bro
absolutely true
Yes it is!
@@nuts6866not.
I feel like he killed someone while smoking weed and that's why this is so important, it's for HIS trial😂😂
EXACTLY 😂😂😂😂
Lmfao. Truly.
Looks like that kinda guy
😂
Laughed too hard🤣💯❗️
This guys on edge maybe he needs to smoke some weed.
m m if he smoked weed he’s realize how fucking dumb he is.
never heard that one before
Hey man weed doesn't affect everybody the same way just because you don't exhibit any of these symptoms doesn't mean no one does.
Maybe hes tired people arent willing to admit they may be wrong.
m m that’s what I’m saying pass that man the bong or something he needs to chill it’s not that serious
Watching him confidently spew propaganda got me so aggravated I had to smoke. Now I can calmly disagree with him. Weird.
that doesnt sound right to be honest. coming from an occasional weed smoker
You mean your smoking didn't induce psychosis and violent anger?! That's weird...I always heard of people smoking weed and then shooting up a mall with an AK47. 🤔(By the way I'm joking,it would be funny if it weren't so damn rediculous and sad)#legalizeit
Šapi Beats you should try some better weed bud
Matt K. Hahaha same dude!😅
brah. that's the best comment on here by far
My experience with pot has only been that it calms me and allows me to focus, although my best friend as a kid had schizophrenia and whenever he would smoke, he would say things that were blatantly out of touch with reality, like thinking it would be cool to do bad things to women, or hurt his little brother, it was simply a negative thing for him, it all comes down to the way YOUR body reacts to it
But people love to generalize. “Weak minded people shouldn’t smoke because they can’t handle it. People literally pay themselves on the back comparing themselves to the schizophrenics who can’t handle weed. Like they’re better because they like weed, and some people don’t. It’s sad. If they dealt with 10% of what some people go through mentally they would realize how bad it actually is.
Glad to hear real discussions about marijuana, the pros and cons fr
There are no pros to the chemical compound THC in cannabis. THC is the thing that makes people "high." THC causes psychosis and other mental health problems through the same pathway. The CBD in cannabis is actually beneficial and causes less damage to the body and mind. CBD doesnt get you "high." In todays cannabis, the THC:CBD ratio is unbelievably high, which explains why more people have horrible side effects.
Bigs You’re full of shit too.
@@frankwilliams5802 link me one study that shows the benefits of THC. They all continually state that it's the other cannabinoids (especially CBD) in weed that have the amazing benefits that we want. ALL THC DOES IS GET YOU HIGH. Its fucking stoners like you that will never help change the weed industry. The THC:CBD ratio is monstrous. We are smoking GMO pot.
Ivan Meza good I don’t give a fuck I’m old and succeeded in life I’m in MENTAL pain from fighting I don’t need to deal with all this shit man I want that GMO weed stronger the better so fuck you man benefits of THC I’m in a better mood instead of being my grumpy self
What af ucking idiot
I like how
curly hair guy: A study says
Beard guy: A study says
Curly hair guy: no that's wrong
True, so true.
You clearly didn't pay attention or avoided to. Just because a study is published doesn't mean it's accurate too. He highlighted that one study was based on inaccurate data. And if you have any commons sense you would see his point. Smoking pot does not have anything to do with defending your personal space or doing your job as a cop
@@panagiotisvasileiou2063 ok
except he actually explained and contextualised why the other study was inaccurate on the basis of their argument.
@@panagiotisvasileiou2063 Everyone here is biased, they probably see him as an attack on the sensibility of their choices
I'm right because it's in this book... My book
Jesus Christ our lord and savior is that you
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Lol sounds like religion
you gotta be like really messed up if your out killing people off a blunt lol
How does that even happen unless they are mixing the weed with harder drugs? Most people just seek more dopamine through eating and sex and feel tired. How does someone have the functionality to murder someone while using weed? I think it should be a prescription only and no smoking, only edibles that are so strong people who need it just take a nap. If it's too strong, nobody can stand up, let alone drive or assault another person. It's not good for anyone's mentality to constantly carry chronic pain. I can see where that is needed. But recreational use data shows people of all demographic and age are at risk to predators. Look at Dahmer and Gacy. They used weed to lure young men back to their car or place. It's easy to find yourself in a dangerous situation and not have the reflex to defend yourself or have a complete lack of awareness.
Lmaoo
@@kristinguldner9473 Past traumas are a leading factor in the THC Psychosis episodes, also if you quit after using constantly can create a sense of disassociation from reality and feeling like you're not all there fully
Weed literally makes me a law-abiding citizen on GTA
Underrated comment. 😂
Powerful statement
Right like i start to get mad cause its so hard to follow speed limits and laws in that game. Like a dude jumps out in front of you its your fault and you die its like wtf lol.
FAX
Weed literally changes my day at all that effect goes away with your tolerance
Weed sat me down on nights i would have gone out drinking,havent been arrested in the 7 yrs I've been smoking heavy.
PsychedelicShaman You may have had that before trying weed my man.
PsychedelicShaman just so you know there’s certain genes that 2% of the population have that basically make you prone to psycho breaks and can trigger your schizophrenia even if you’ve never had a episode it’s most common for men around the age of 20 that’s usually when you find out which unfortunately is around the time most people are at their peak when it comes to experimentation with different drugs so obviously to just blame the drugs and more specifically the weed wouldn’t necessarily be true it be a cop out
@PsychedelicShamanNo you didn't.
@PsychedelicShaman I doubt it
PsychedelicShaman if you smoked an oz a day for years your tolerance would be built up & you wouldn’t even feel that shit😂😂😂
He doesn't really know what he's talking about.. he sounds like one of those "I've never done that before but I know it's really bad." kinds of people.
True dat. Smoke up nibbaz all day err day homie. Swag
Jacob Gross why would you wish that on anyone
@@Notoriousnipple Maybe your just having a
spiritual aweakening and it's out of contex because of our colture. Look up rupert spira
Jacob Gross Wack
cactusjack lolol
First couple years of smoking it was nothing but bliss. All day every day, couldn't get enough. But as the years went on, something switched. Might've been the result of getting older, things in life having higher stakes, etc., but I started battling paranoia nearly every time. Handful of episodes I could even describe as psychosis. There's a lot of factors at play with having a good vs bad time, but when I decided to quit for good, I'd had a great day the whole day, nothing but good vibes, so I decided to capitalize on it with an end of day smoke. Wouldn't you know, it turned my great day into a panic attack. It was then I said this shit just aint worth it.
It really just depends on people and their genes,only reason I'm still alive is because I smoke weed
It really just depends on people and their genes,only reason I'm still alive is because I smoke weed
@@mustbshadyStop smoking weed cause your doing everything twice😂
@@domingoarroyo2179 lmfao
@@mustbshadyeverything in moderation. I smoke once a week.
You shouldn’t trust anyone who says “20 X” instead of 20 times
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That's what he menT?? I tought he was talking about the project name lol see this is the real dangers of cannabis
I’m all for legalization but this discussion is right on point. There are a lot of psychotic people that should not be smoking whatsoever.
But it also can cause psychosis and schizophrenia for people who are susceptible. So that’s Pat of the problem there
there is also a lot of phsycotic people that should not touch alcohol. it could go both ways. alcohol will always be far worse then weed. it has been proven that alcohol causes people to be angry.
@@brysongammill5182 I was going to say the exact same thing, psychotic people tend to not be able to handle alcohol either, often with worse consequences, yet alcohol is perfectly legal.
@@brysongammill5182 Certainly, the problem, though, is that the vast majority of people will agree with you that alcohol can cause mental states that are more likely to result in violence, whereas most people would disagree that marijuana can cause mental states where this is more likely. We need to be able to examine these things without shifting the focus, taking away from the point that's being discussed. Each problem deserves its own consideration.
Problem is already home. Don't blame weed that's a cop out.
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The argument is that marijuana can create psychosis which results in violent crime with SOME individuals. It is NOT about marijuana generally causing violent behaviour in the mases. People commenting are too baked to understand the podcast lol. The guy brought up a solid argument that we need to do more research into the behavioural effects of marijuana, especially in mentally ill people, and with heavy or prolonged use.
at this point it is bucnch of angry people looking at the system that incarcerates them for ingesting natural plant life forms ... you think that will make a weird situation or what in the peoples m,inds? ... is that normal to ban nature and watch the people suffer from a lack of ingesting said nature ?
Who cares if his argument is mentally ill people can be affected, it's so low. on top of it we would have to ban alcohol, prescription drugs etc. Plus you can't corelate a single case to his point.
@@kalmykdude and to mess all of that guys views up = Cannabis helps the mentally insane people of the world ... it just does ... certain Varietals of cannabis plant even more so. Cannabis is a very diverse and sophisticated plant that cannot be placed into one category ETC......
This guy is an absolute troglodyte dont defend him. We’ve seen what pot does to people over the long term willy nelsons like 100 years old already and im pretty sure he hasnt murdered anyone
@@nerdgamer6047 Like how 2/3 of cigarette smokers live an average length life and don’t get lung cancer.
As someone who has smoked heavily and became psychotic due to it, this guy is right. However, there is no reason to believe weed is more harmful than any other drug or addiction
Get that guy stoned or give him some peanuts
10speedmofia 112 even better if you give him peanut edibles
Better to die than to go to hell for years before you give up.
That should be the title of his next book lol.
Some of us have self-control and actually care about other things than short term pleasure, you know.
short term? have you ever had an edible?
not to mention it takes a certain self control to deal with edibles. hey but to each his own.
"Fortunately healthy people do not commit murder that often." Lol
Bantu African i like how he litterally says there is no real healthy human we all have some form of disorders. he just sucks at arguing but it's hard to be good when your point is trying to parent grown ass people by saying don't smoke weed you'll be a killer.
What about the Vegas Shooter?
@@raygoss4371 theres quite a bit to that story that brings up more questions, unless I havent bothered to research it enough.
@@raygoss4371 in your opinion The Vegas shooter was "healthy"??? Plese elaborate since i have quite the opposite view...
@@raygoss4371 They set that man up
Love when people try to get on the soap box about weed when they've clearly never smoked it in their fucking life.
@@shawnryan1313 I never said people don’t have bad reactions to it. If it affects you badly that’s your problem but to most people like me it is an absolute life saver. I used to have epilepsy until I got on medical marijuana. I’m now 3 years seizure free. Ur the joke.
@@THESHINIGAMIPOSSE why do you and so many other people feel so offended when weed is talked about in any other way besides worship or praise?? It’s not the greatest thing in the world for all of humanity, you should get checked into a rehab center or something.
@@99mattdogg what would rehab do? It’s just a medication that does nothing but good for me at the end of the day. If it doesn’t do anything for you I couldn’t care less. I get offended because it’s people bashing it that gives it the stigma that it doesn’t need. There shouldn’t be a debate in the first place
@@99mattdogg also did you miss the part where it cured a serious condition for me? Lmao yeah I’m such a crippling addict
@@THESHINIGAMIPOSSE Again, it’s not the greatest thing in the world for all of humanity.. Practice your critical reading skills man, your mad ass response indicates an addict being defensive lmao.
I had a psychotic/depressive break due to weed a few years ago, all negative symptoms went away after quitting. I'm pro legalization I just think people need to realize that weed isn't harmless.
This debate can logically lead to only one conclusion:
We must act quickly to ban peanut butter.
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lol these comments are pathetic... as a daily weed smoker for over 7 years i can 100% GUARANTEE YOU that shit can mess with your head. Moderation is key but a lot of people don't have discipline. I have seen people become paronoid and more aggressive from constant weed use or due to a lack of weed... If you think smoking all day everyday aint gonna have no effects on ur mental health you're a FOOL
@@shipdrop7690 of course but you can't throw the baby out with the bath water, if you drink coffee all day you're gonna be irritable and twitchy, if you drink booze all day you're gonna be lethargic, angry and sick. If you bang adderall all day you're gonna be paranoid and restless. I also definitely abused weed and it had negative effects on my mind but I can't control myself as well as my friends who are totally fine and still use it, so I did the right thing and quit, because it didn't work in my favor. Personal responsibility is key over anything
@@shipdrop7690 too much of anything isn't good for you. Weed can definitely make you paranoid. I've smoked every day for about a decade now and it really helps my ptsd and social anxiety. It helps me function better and more.logically but everyone is different don't disagree with you
Because eating peanut butter leads to psychotic murder? Brilliant. Might make sense to a cannabis thinker.
Shittt I be in arguements sometimes, walk away; smoke a blunt, come back and not give a FUCK at what I was mad at earlier.
That’s kinda called running away from your problems
Irritability from drug withdrawal
You clearly dont suffer from any serious mental illness then. I personally know people in my life that have had bad psychosis and others worsened schitz symptoms
He sounds like he works for a pharmaceutical company
Ayo I just smoked a fat blunt and fucking curb stomped my grandma. Legalize it BIOTCH!
You're just a stupid pot head
I’m violent pothead so smd
@@willygrags4367"Curb stomped my Gma."- Willy 🤣🤣😂 greatest troll
yep, I must say I heard one French Doctor saying that there were many people taking Antidepressants we're actually committing murder and he says too that these drugs are affecting the brain in some way that the Scientific community even didn't know what really does ...
I have to say I had a lot of childhood traumas and I was always diagnosed as a high risk child for psychosis.
My uncle and my dad both have a big psychosis history, almost my whole family has a history of substance misuse also.
I don’t drink alcohol, I don’t smoke tobacco, but I have been smoking weed for over 10 years now ( since I was 12 ) .
I was a menace to society since a child but my smoking habits have really calmed me down.
I never had a psychosis myself.
When I travel, it happens that I just don’t touch any weed for like 10 days and it doesn’t make me withdraw at all..
Doesn’t bother me.. it’s interesting.
I just seem to have stronger anxiety than what I normally have when I do smoke.
I will admit that doing heavy edibles is the worst thing you can do if you are not in the right state of mind for it, or on the right place.
They make you extremely paranoid and if you have anxiety it’s just a disaster 🤣
Since a child I saw so much pain and stress from hard drugs and alcohol, but I always looked at weed as if it was a medicine.
I have a similar past, lots of abuse as a child and i am a daily user. I’ve found the same thing with travel that I’ll not have any weed but I’ll still be happy and comfortable. There’s a lot of research coming out that says addiction has a lot to do with your environment, I’m wondering if a change of environment might help my underlying issues as well as my dependence on cannabis
Yes i feel it. Cannabis is so Amazing!
Same bro… same. But after 5-6 years of smoking weed non stop all I took was one spliff at 3am while going through heightend paranoia to put me in a psychotic episode… a very bad one.
My advice to you brother get off the weed and leave it alone.🙏🏼
This is terrifying while watching baked
I have anxiety and will probably smoke. I'm with ya.
ollie sando 😂
Lol I'm laughing, this guys a whole goofy talking about statistics in Switzerland and shit
@@sweetwaterbadrap7443 " a whole goofy"😂😂😂
@@sweetwaterbadrap7443 thats stupid 80% of schizoprenics smoked ciggaretes so nicotine cause schizoprenia?. and a lot of schizoprenics abuse drugs, theres no info that proves anything If was the drugs abuse that cause or they already had it
That's strange, I usually only kill when I'm sober, if I'm stoned it just seems like too much hassle...🤔
FBI wants to know your location
@@highinjuly4799 I'm sure they could find me if they wanted to, this is social media after all 👍
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And it kills your buzz. DOUBLE MURDER! 😅
dang bro u might want to have some things checked out...
Wow this is actually the calmest debate ive ever seen. People nowadays have a propensity to just not listen to people who have differing opinions. I like how they did this, a fair debate.
Bro I’m watching it a year later I legit expected a fight by 40 seconds in
This is how humans should interact... But unfortunately mental health exists
I can't understand people who don't want to hear different opinions like for me I'm always open to being challenged on what I believe and I find it very interesting and even fun
@@barrell_rider4869 U WILL NEVER TAKE MY WEED AWAY!!!!!!
Yea but there is no debate. Weed does nothing wrong and harmful to you and you are retarded if you believe otherwise
I've smoked for 15 years now and the only thing it's done to me is made me stutter
Dang bro. You intentionally gave your self a speech impediment through addiction.
@rm6058 literally I'm not real bad but still gets annoying 😅
That guy with curly hair seems that he can get violent easily
His gestures with his forced laugh, I agree.
I don’t think so. He’s passionate about this subject because of what he’s seen and how it is affecting people. I feel the same way because I get to deal with these kids and young adults who have obviously jacked up their synapses from heavy pot smoking.
Omar Arancivia Bolanos both of them could've beaten the living shit out of him, i don't think it was in his best interest to try anything sketchy
@@slanttwo naw dude I think it's something else. He is extremely dismissed multiple facts being told from certified sources. I get being passionate but he's just being stubborn.
Dude need to smoke weed so he can chill out!
I think Cannabis psychosis is the perfect example that weed isn't for everyone.
Vallente Dunn no shit it’s not for everyone
@Goatbe Bryant Could well be a possibility if you started smoking at 11. Brain is under massive construction at that age, plus most kids are still finding out who they are never mind taking mind altering drugs.
Get what you mean tho, a good or bad experience will happen to someone, then they'll take their subjective experience with the drug and regard it as universal.
Like when you see people who try weed for the first time and have a bad reaction (throwing up, paranoia, anxiety etc) and their view will instantly be switched to anti weed/legalization.
Same goes for people who want it legal and readily available just because THEY have a good reaction. No one is the center of the world and both extreme ends of the anti and pro weed scale are equally pointless.
Research and attitude to weed would improve of people looked at it objectively rather than going round in circles looking for a black and white answer to weed and it's effects.
what about CBD that comes from "weed" which shows anti psychotic properties and no recreational potential... 500mg CBD could be better than any anti psychotic on the market because of its lack of side effects when compared with typical anti psychotics
If you have mental illness lurking somewhere inside you, weed will find it & drag it out.
@@Sam-me5pl CBD does have anti psychotic properties, the problem is that modern weed is cherry picked to have a higher concentration of THC and lower concentration of CBD
Probably wears a mask in his car when he drives
Im very confused by those people ...
@@levibull6063 I do it only when I just got out one building and I’m on my way to another building. Not gonna keep on placing my mask on and off every few minutes it’s easier to keep it on it’s just a damn piece of cloth. Not like it’s doing anything for the virus it’s just to keep y’all happy.
You’re probably one of those anti maskers who doesn’t wear one at all
I've caught myself once or twice. On my way out I forget I have it on after having to wear it to go inside a store.
said God
I have a loved one who went through drug induced Psychosis - she’s is absolutely not the same. If you haven’t seen it happen you won’t believe it, I was one who used to think weed was harmless
Same , until you see a loved one or your child go through this you wldnt believe it but it’s very clear when your in it that it’s psychosis from weed and or drugs. The paranoia is so extreme an delusions, they aren’t themselves it’s scary.
He’s completely not factoring in the psychological trauma/history of a person his book is bs
yeah like what if violent people are attracted to weed instead of weed making people violent. Other way around maybe?
Even better he’s being specific and mentioning that this affects those pre-disposed to psychosis a lot of you just can’t take facts and opposition
B M yeah nobody cares
Willy G Rags further proving your ignorance
Willy G Rags yeah you seem pretty closed off to the idea that pot can have any negative side effects at all let alone that it’s not good for psychotic people which seems pretty self explanatory to me.
"Associated". You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means. Dihydrogen monoxide use is associated with 100% of violent criminals. Association is not the same thing as causation.
Grout Grout I see what you did there H20 , but you are correct
I see what you really did there a Movie " from the princess bride😂🙏😊
What he's saying is, its more likely and its true! Ive seen it around me i just quit smoking everyday all day and im so much less paranoid and i realise that people dont hate me like i thought.
You do not know how to make an inductive difference based off of data, God damn this is pathetic.
Not agreeing with the anti cannabis guy.
did any one watch this high?
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I’ve had my ups and downs smoking weed with psychosis. The vast majority of pot smokers tend to have a great and relaxing experience without any intentions of hurting anyone like I did throughout high school. It wasn’t until I got into college and noticed I had been developing psychosis like some of my family members did I realize I needed to stop smoking. Whenever I would smoke in late college I’d feel very hot and cold and would start heavily sweating while feeling extremely paranoid. I love how this podcast emphasizes that it truly depends on the person and that weed is a great medicine for the majority of ppl, however for a smaller percentage with mental issues like psychosis or schizophrenia, it can really easily sway ur brain into a psychosis state for those who are already experiencing symptoms. I personally think pot should be legalized recreationally as even though 1% of ppl who smoke with paranoid psychosis have a high chance of getting violent, the other 99% tend to have euphoric affects without any intent of hurting anyone.
homie can’t listen to anybody else’s side when they try to speak on anything that differs from his own bias
So fuckin true. People like that are just a waste of the precious JRE time.
He clearly is pulling it out his ass, lol he needa blunt😂😂❤️
What he said was 100% true though. He obviously had bias but was more objective and had better studies then the other guy who was acting lien he was educated on the subject. There nothing wrong with occasionally smoking weed but you make your life it and protect it to the death.
@@benjamin1403 its mad how many people are in denial
@@benjamin1403 I think what you’re referring to is addictive personality disorder and that comes from genetics, you can be addicted to anything even sugar or caffeine but that doesn’t really have anything to do with the points this guy kept making about studies from early 1900s about cannabis saying that it causes psychosis, psyzchophrenia, and violent crime. These mental disorders are caused by genetics and people have these already going on in their brains just because smoking weed brings it out In people that already have a propensity for mental illness doesn’t mean it should be illegal or that it means that it causes mental illness it just brings it out in people that would already have mental illnesses. You are no different than this guy in the video who is just pulling information that is irrelevant and represents his biased ideas.
Cannabis does not cause the psychological illness but trigger the underlying symptoms already latent in the person.
Correct - will only effect those with predispositions.
@@Floki_631 That's pretty much everyone.
@@cleethorphesdave852 No its not at all
Everyone is crazy. I've seen um all.
Steven B The DSM IV used by mental health professionals is the agreed upon primary reference used to diagnose the minority percentage of the population with mild to chronic mental sickness. These professionals also agree that psychoactive drugs elevate or unmask symptoms.
Def seen more fights at bars and clubs than backyard smoke sessions
I think it enhances what's already there. If you're insecure it can make you paranoid. If you're positive, it can make you fun to be around. If you're talented, it can make you more creative. I think everyone has met all types.
This dude is the one guy that hits a joint once and then passes out. Now he's pissed cause everyone else has fun with it
Yuupp
Lmaoo deadass foo
He is the type to have Hot Cheeto finger, lick them clean, then tell you, your fingers are dirty.
He's the type to deal with psychosis because his family has a history. He
just doesn't know that.
No he’s the type to smoke and then start thinking everyone in the rotation is fixin to rob/kill him.
I smoke all the time and have never thought once of murdering anyone. I mostly smoke weed for my anxiety and depression
He clearly said that most people wouldnt get those kind of thoughts
Nobody said you did. Lmao.
@@cheapmoviesnow Exactly. Potheads hearing what they wanna hear.
If you admit you won’t murder anyone there is doubt that you thought of murdering someone. Therefore I don’t trust you.
Ever think that you have anxiety and depression BECAUSE you smoke all the time?
I bet that curly hair dude was the type of kid to remind the teacher about homework
And you were probably a kid that didn't understand the importance of homework. As if being honest and smart is a bad thing GTFO
@@hentsydesigns9046 dude, it's been 9 months, get over yourself
@@sea_triscuit7980 😂
@@sea_triscuit7980 💀💀
@@hentsydesigns9046 u were definitely the kid that reminded the teacher about homework lmao
I wish this were true. Psychiatric meds certainly lowered my inhibitions. I’d have hallucinations & problems with perception of reality, but I wasn’t having any thoughts or considerations in harming people until I was on psych meds. They took away the lowest lows, but also took away all highs-All rewards for doing good, all happiness, pleasure. Made everything meaningless & really just made me not care. Life didn’t feel worth living on psych meds. People not on them can’t understand.
I just abruptly stop taking them. I was sleeping from 12 to 18 hours a day. And obviously I have a life to live. So I stopped taking them, it’s been 3 now and I feel happier and more motivated to do stuff. Still though am having very unordinary and violent thoughts, not that I would EVER act on them, there’s still a few hints of psychosis still in me. It’s hard to differentiate what causes what. That’s the reason I’ve been so troubled in finding who I am as a person since every major episode I have completely changed who I am.
I was on benzodiazepines and antipsychotics for 6 yrs and you can't go off cold turkey, you have to taper off and cut the dose every 2-3wks before you stop.
Moderation(maintaining) is always the key to ANYTHING. Simple as that. Control your thoughts. Don't dwell on shit and live a healthy life and you should be fine.
facts, i get high once a week and i still go on with my life perfectly fine.
"Control your thoughts" lol
Tell that to a person in psychosis
kristian jirasek you can’t control psychosis but you can change the setting you’re in and tell/train yourself to not take it so seriously
The problem is even not having a huge amount can trigger psychosis and schizophrenia in people who have never had it before. So there’s always a risk. People like this curly haired guy are just swinging the pendulum the other way since a lot of potheads think weed it perfectly safe and reduces crime
Some people can't handle life so they smoke some weed about it and guess what? They can't handle the weed either.
M I i think he’s saying that if you are violent then marijuana won’t change that, i could be wrong.
@@roryharland5435 dude I'm an angry mf. Weed calms me down lol
LOL You call this life? We are not living, we are merely surviving.
@@Zionolum90 relax it's not that serious
He’s just explaining what weed does. It enhances how you feel, more than likely aggressive people are going to commit crimes regardless. Doesn’t matter if they smoke weed or not. Not just black and white.
Great point! Even the quantity/quality of the weed can affect you differently depending on your aggression. Just smoke and wait and repeat until the violence & aggression dissipates. Trust me it will...
That’s not his argument
@@jaygin6518 i rewatched and I understand his point.
It's not quite that simple. I loved weed when I was younger but I grew out of it because it made me feel unproductive. The last few times I smoked I had unpleasant anxiety and the reason why is because I associate cannabis with me being lazy and not caring about what is happening in the real world. Being stoned gives me a horrible feeling of deja vu now, and I don't want to fall back into that rut
@taliwakka27 I'm exactly the same way but we aren't the norm. I'm jealous too....I was in medical marijuana for a decade. It helped 💯 of thousands of ppl. It made my problems worse. Then it got commercialized & well it's sad. My brother combat vet, Ptsd, hates drugs (pharma) just tried " this is ridiculous I feel like I'm 15, but I feel better" 🤷♀️
i smoked for years, teenage into late 20's and until recently its never given me psychosis or paranoia. I CANNOT use weed anymore because it induces horrible panic attacks for me now. i feel like im dying.
Thats what happened to me at 19 and I've suffered ever since
This dudes so wrong even Jamie had to go in on him lmaoo
@Josh Gaspar don't tell me you agree with this dumbass.
@Josh Gaspar you can't be addicted to weed, not physically anyways. Yes it causes some paranoia but there's no evidence that it causes homicides nor suicides.
@Josh Gaspar joe rogan johann hari war on drugs this guy did something on the podcast about this it goes way more in depth
@Josh Gaspar so you met a guy in a psychward and you believe that he had some beers and weed now he's just crazy? Bro cmon you didn't just try to use a dude for your example that is literally in a psychward. Yes, but its not a physical addiction. You won't get the shakes from not having it for too long like with physical addiction.
@Josh Gaspar well that was quite literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard, that dude doesn't know if weed is why he's in and out of psychwards and from the way you make it sound he's only done once or only a couple times. You truly think that's going to make him crazy? Oh and you said he had alcohol how come that isn't the reason? Exactly. You are trying to push an agenda, you are grasping at straws.
His whole argument can be refuted with "correlation does not imply causation"
I said the same thing but didn't know those big words so it took me longer lolol
That old maxim goes more like "Correlation does not necessarily imply causation."
On a small or incidental scale any correlations merit the parsing of many variables and confounding data. While this approach will always hold true for any scientific method analysis, the larger and larger the scale and scope of correlating data points become, the more narrow the causal relations become as well.
At the end of the day, there is still an inference for a conclusion occurring, but this is the very bedrock of empirical data study.
Ye nah if u know any weed smokers personally when they don't have cones they can get violent I smoke weed extremely often and have been around many violent smokers same goes for any substance abuse being high all the time no matter what it is is bad
@@dylanwatson7392 if someone gets violent when they dont have weed then there's something other than weed wrong with them, only people I've known like that are schizophrenic or have quite bad bipolar. Too much of anything is bad obviously, but it takes a lot of weed or the "right" person to cause psychosis or any mental health issues
@@jaymoge 😂😂😂
What other pharmaceutical drugs are these people on when they're smoking weed and then committing violent Acts I would like to know
good point ,
There are plenty of studeis showing that there is indeed a causal link between violent behavior and marijuana use, I have seen the data and it is tremendously strong. It amazes me that the defense of users is that must have been do to something else, the person was already unstable, what about ... and so on. The same people that say this dont even bother to read the studies, they just dismiss it without reviewing it.I can personally say that when I used to smoke I would have periods of irritability which all disappeared after quitting.
@@exponentmantissa5598 please state these studies please.
There's a difference between cannabis making people violent and violent people smoking cannabis. If you're violent to start with then the chances are you'll be violent after you smoke cannabis. I know some long term prisoners, many of whom have committed murder, who swear that cannabis makes them more calm and level headed. Stats can be misleading or interpreted to suit your own agenda and sometimes fail to make connections between cause and effect.. Poor people smoking cannabis and robbing people is not the same as cannabis making you violent enough to commit these crimes. I'm certainly no expert but I have been around this stuff all my life and I agree that some people should not smoke cannabis but you can say that about almost every substance known to man, especially alcohol.
If u crazy, drinking an orange juice will still keep ya crazy. His argument makes no sense to people with a healthy mind. And Joe's peanut argument made him speechless for a minute, coz it brakes apart all the book he's trying to sell here, which is based on researches from 1908 etc. Nice
Only had a decent time on weed once or twice in my life. Other times when I smoke it I don’t feel real I look at myself in the mirror and feel fake or even when I got outside and look at everything it changed my perception on everything. Smoking weed gives me the worst anxiety that you can imagine I’ve been in some fucked up situations and the anxiety and disconnection I got on weed is worse. I definitely think weed changed my mindset on how I see reality now, even for instance normal conversations with other people feel weird. I wish I never smoked weed
What I learned from Smoking weed. When you’re high and that paranoia creeps up you have to be honest with yourself and the people you’re smoking with. Our Egos get In the way and cause all these disorders and negative action. That’s when repression happens.
Also you have to take in consideration the upbringing. I grew up in a violent home and environment. I’ve learned to be calm under pressure! With that skill I was able to asses my high and thoughts. There are others who learned this on their own in different upbringings. There are those who don’t have the ability to chill at all. These people can easily act on their thoughts and paranoia. I feel we definitely need to teach how to smoke weed and how to properly express yourself when high and asses thoughts. I definitely don’t believe everyone should smoke however, I believe everyone can smoke if taught correctly and if they are honest with themselves and others.
Exactly! Violent tendencies have way more to do with your upbringing and predisposition. Weed is not gonna make someone homicidal just like playing video games is not gonna make someone homicidal. As marijuana becomes legalized in more places there hopefully will be more in depth research done and a more widespread understanding of marijuana's effects.
This is the only comment on this video that is correct and useful. All of the other comments are making fun of the fact about schitz etc. They need to learn not everyone gets it
Loved your insight bro🙏
I'm going through these thoughts as I type.
Myself for instance I have anxiety issues that I deal with,Marijuana did used to help those issues but after smoking heavy for months it's actually made things 10x worst.
Xavier086 what’s up Brotha! Thanks for the honesty! That’s the first step to calming your mind. Check this out, you’re not your thoughts at all! As easy as they come is as easy as they go. You have to be disciplined enough to not let yourself run wild with no objective. Take up mindfulness. The first step a Buddha takes to becoming a Buddha is mindfulness meditation . With that said, the first step to mindfulness is breathing. When you take a deep breath you’re fully aware of yourself. With that awareness, apply it to your thoughts. Observe your thoughts like a pedestrian observing traffic. You see a car you like you follow it- You see a car you don’t like you let it pass. Now my friend, treat your thoughts as that. I know your mental capacity can get full with all the stuff life throws at you. When this happens we look for a release. Weed can be that release only if you’re in control of yourself when using it. Weed is a amplifier in a sense. So imagine it amplifying your thoughts if your not aware of it for a long period of time it will torment you. With all that said, I hope this is useful and you calm your mind. Remember life itself outside the social constructs is a beautiful place. Don’t get trapped in your mind unless you’re there on demand.
Nicole Gatto I couldn’t agree more!! 🤙🏿
People with schizophrenia definitely need to be careful smoking weed they react differently than average people
@@watsappenin2865 wait, is that a symptom of schizophrenia?
@@watsappenin2865 edgy
Not true at all
@Joe damn I click your profile and see your 3 most recent comments and you're going at people on every one. You must get a kick off going at people in the youtube comments. You're the clown and you don't even realise. Shame
For sure. Everyone seems to be hating on this guy but he does make some decent points about weed use in people with serious mental illnesses. Especially about using cannabis with stimulants. That can cause paranoia from 2 different angles. So he isn't right about everything but if you hear him out he isnt an idiot and he knows he is not taking the popular opinion route so I respect him.
all this while Joe has 5 pounds of wedding cake taped under his seat
Nice strain btw
@@ДмитрийАбраменко-и6ъ literally my favorite strain
I think 5 is an understatement
When I was younger I was a heavily drug user specifically psychodelics. Now I think it was no good I abused it and started at such young age. But also it open my mind a lot and helped me with creativity. I think psychodelics don't make you better neither worst... As long as you are mature, responsible person. The is no harm in trying just as there is no harm on having some beer with your mates. The key is to not abuse, to do it responsable and know your acts always have a consequence.
Joe “social lubricant” Rogan
Awesome idiom!
Love the expression!
Joe is wrong.
@@unitedstatesirie7431 and you're obviously dumb
wtf.?
“Why are you saying that?”
“Because I wanna sell my book”
www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/there-link-between-marijuana-use-psychiatric-disorders
😂😂😂
When I smoke I want to be everyone’s friend 😂😂
💯
Even when they live in a hut and are inbred? Eh morgan?
In that homicidal way :D
@@jaysherriff3086 yeh
When I smoke, I get a migraine, worst nausea and non psychotic hallucinations 🤷♂️
But that's me
I wouldn't claim everyone's gonna die due to it, people even get better pain managment for cluster headaches with pot
I smoked weed for 6 straight years and never been a violent, paranoid person, I super rarely touched alcohol since as weed suits me better unlike alcohol which triggers me to do some things I wouldn't do while I'm high in weed. I just stopped because it's still illegal in our country which sucks and I might lose my job because of the random drug testing.
After 4 minutes im convinced this dudes out of his mind
J. Halvorsen took me 7 mins😂
Funny, I'm on 4:02 and think the same thing!
Was it the "no healthy person commits murder"?🤣
At 4 minutes I got scared that he’d punch me if I disagreed with him
hes telling the truth...
@@ironliterature4908 no, he's talking out of his ring-piece
It isn’t the cannabis that causes violence it’s the fact that many cannabis users have suffered trauma. Trauma can lead to violence.
Is it still paranoia when people ACTUALLY are out to get you?
No, that wouldn't be considered a disorder because it's not a delusion, it's reality.
Errrrm ... great question actually, I'm not sure.
You could be in a situation where people are out to get you yet you just don't give a shit. Therefore, being classified as being 'not paranoid despite the very real situation you are in'. It depends if you define the word 'paranoid' as being a mental disorder as Violet Kimiko suggests or simply just as an emotion or attitude. :P
Nah he talkin bout ops tryna get you for a joint
Your only paranoid if your wrong
“Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.”
- Joseph Heller, Catch-22
i have been smoking marijuana since i was 15, im 50 now and have never been violent!
So a very small percentage of the population may become violent if they use this drug.
Let's go to the bar.
But he's not there to sing praises on alcohol so how is that an argument?
@Logic It has nothing to do with what they were talking about though. No one was saying alcohol is good or safer than weed.
@@pob3987 Yes, however it is generally universally accepted and legalized.
@@pob3987 it is when he's calling weed bad meanwhile he's attempting to take a neutral stance on a literal poison just because it's already accepted in wider society.
and this is coming from someone who likes a good glass of kvass with a joint for dinner
@@pob3987 Hmmm so I wonder if alcohol possibly triggers violence or dare I say high rape stats too? Lol maybe all drugs come with risk factors and instead of targeting one, maybe Mr. Carpethead can do real research and compare the risk factors to all drugs including the legal ones.
He's drawing the wrong conclusion. People probably smoked because it was a treatment to them for their existing psychosis, not that weed causes you to go crazy
Its like banning flower vases because someone used a flower vase to kill someone 😂 you focused on the wrong issue
Marijuana is not a cure for psychosis. It exacerbates it
I don't think he's saying it causes you to go crazy. He's saying for those who have psychosis that it could potentially have an effect to make them worse.
@@vincentwatson2960 not true
you obviously didnt pay attention to what he was saying.
The debate on this production is exactly why I love what Joe Rogan is doing and why I feel that it is more important to society than any government social program.
The violent crimes in Alaska are always rising, I heard of one murder happening last year in the capital (but it’s significantly smaller, only 32,000 people roughly) and it didn’t have to do with drugs at all. I think meth is a bigger problem and induces permanent psychosis much more often than weed, but those people almost always have specific issues with weed where it brings on paranoia and claim they cannot smoke anymore. There is also a huge huge lack of mental health facilities in the state that I personally feel like is keeping people with these issues homeless. I think the biggest factor is people are desperate and have no where to go here. It’s expensive to leave and if you already can’t pay the rent, the only way you’re getting out of the state is getting your life on track or going to federal prison.
As someone who has bipolar and has been smoking over half my life and I can't hardly hold onto anger when I'm high even if I want to
I've never met a violent stoner in my entire life.
Nick G ik some
@@yianni6057 yeah, I guess what I meant is that I've never seen someone fly into a rage or become violent because they smoked pot.
I have. It wasn't because of the weed though, they were just violent people to begin with.
I have seen plenty of people get angry after the fact
He's talking about a cumulative effect on the brain.
This guest said weed kills more people han peanuts , man what?!?!?!☠☠☠
Fucking deluded lmao
He said it causes more deaths
Thx can’t kill u but it can make u go crazy
@@ovy830 You ever smoked weed before?
In my opinion, all psychedelics have a chance to give you psychosis and paranoia. That being send, it all depends on if the person already had these to begin with. And being aware in a existencial way is always risk at being mentally unwell. Life sucks. But its still life. Taking the filter off can drive people nuts.
Agreed, as someone that fell to drug abusing dabs,alcohol and psychedelics iv recently been feeling like iv been falling into psychosis. Even though I have been clean from all of it for a month now the feeling of being murdered and overall paranoia has really been putting an effect and as somone who came from a sober mindset 2 years ago and being as aware as I am to see what is happening I can’t help but continue to believe these delusions and out of the ordinary ideas that I think are completely true no matter how much I try to think otherwise. Imo I feel as tho from my experiences psychedelics was the main cause followed by the abusing dabs multiple times everyday didn’t help the fact of what’s currently going on. I can’t give a say on weed just because as soon as I quit everything a month ago it wasn’t the thing that tipped me over in feeling like the way I do it was dabs but I will say I don’t think it was what caused it originally even tho I feel like that was a factor in it. But yes it will drive you nuts if you can’t put mind over matter I can’t tell you how many times iv thought and currently think my food was poisoned, thought I was getting set up, thought people where out to get me and even looking out my window every 30 mins bc i think I heard somone pulled into my driveway to get me so far to the point I live in fear not knowing if tonight’s gonna be my last to where I keep a knife on me 24/7 for my safety of myself bc I’m so worried I’m gonna get got. But considering I’m 19 iv only started feeling this way sence the beginning of March and shi don’t feel real sometimes tbh but life goes on and there isn’t too much you can do other than therapy or meds but I’m trying to work on it by overcoming and adapting to it. But iv never had a test done or anything but just based off all the signs such as paranoia,delusions,music and tv talking to me,consistently recurring numbers, hearing things and recently starting to see stuffs not like people but like inanimate things? Idk it’s hard to explain. On top of being extremely gullible that has a fucked up family that can’t really trust anybody I can’t help but feel as if I’m losing it a bit lmao but that’s my take from my mindset currently from a “psychosis” perspective didn’t think I’d be giving a essay on a rand as post from a comment from a month ago but here we are😭✋ idk makes me feel good to talk abt it in a way
@@thomassmith6931 same bro I haven’t been the same since and I haven’t smoked in 3 years . I used to smoke a lot of carts I was high every single day and went to sleep high . I have general anxiety now and can’t really be around a lot of people plus everything looks weird and different it’s strange
Weed isn't a psychedelic... and I think you'll find while psychedelics *do* incurr a risk of psychosis and paranoia, the statistics I've found (amazingly!) have that much lower than weed.
@@Murderdogs lmao this shows how well you know substances because yes it is a psychedelic
@@queenieqt2033 weed doesn't make you hallucinate. Just because the government labels it so, the same government that came out with ridiculous reefer madness propaganda... doesn't mean it is.
I had a roommate who was severely schizophrenic, and whenever he smoked weed that wasn't mids he went crazy, babbling nonsense, paranoid behavior, running around in circles. His brain could NOT handle it pretty much at all.
That's how my brother is
Weed ain’t for everyone
Literally my sister
i’m no psychologist/doctor but i’d be willing to bet most psychoactive substances probablyyyyyy shouldn’t be used by schizophrenic individuals. lol
Neighbor was a schizophrenic, smoked every day for 30 years, he was chill asf till he passed, rip to bro
Schizophrenia also "develops" during adolescence and young adulthood (17-25) so that could be why he was "normal" when he was 'younger'...just saying.
Personally, I have anger issues and I've been on the verge of fighting on plenty occasions BUT once I hit a joint or a blunt my ass sits down and I feel like my testosterone just lowers to the point where I just eat and play video games. Idk. Weed has rationalized me many times. But that's just my personal case.
The fact that you think lowering your testosterone, eating junk and playing more video games is positive makes me believe that you are irrational. I smoked for 7 years straight up until recently, and that conclusion of yours sounds like the same lies that I used to tell myself to defend my addiction. I mean, just because you get too lazy to get into a fight doesn't mean you've solved anything, you're just masking a problem with another problem.
I never stated that I eat junk. And I don't mean to be a keyboard warrior but I'm definitely not lazy to fight. When I was younger I was more impetuous and impulsive to capitalize on problems and seize the opportunity to fight. I enjoyed it lol it's just now when I get ramped up I'll smoke and getting high slows my thinking down, I rationalize and realize it's not worth fighting because it can lead to bigger issues, like getting in trouble with the law.
I smoked for 3 years, got pretty heavy but it caused me to get severe paranoia and anxiety so I quit. Since I quit I've had absolutely no dramas, but once in a while (8-12 months) I'll try a joint again, I'm talking like one spliff, and bang - exact same thing. That's just my experience but I think if it works for you go for it, but I don't think the drug is entirely safe imo.
@@gasbaroni How horrible kicking that addiction must have been. Did you vomit and shake uncontrollably? Did you lash out and hurt people? Damn man. You had a bad habit. Calling it an addiction is a huge slap in the face to people who have to kick shit like alcohol, opiates or even fucking cigarettes.
@@SavageHenry777 I definitely agree with you but people can still be addicted to marijuana, its just more of a mental thing honestly. In my opinon weed can also be a gateway drug depending on whether or not the person is smoking the weed to get high or actually smoking because it helps them get through the day.
usually alcohol!!!!!..pot on it`s own DOES not cause violence!!!..me personally find it promotes peace and serenity!