2 years later and very useful. Great info. Any bolt with a torque + deg is a stretch bolt and should be replaced. Your information and details make this a less daunting job.
I'm glad you found the information useful. Yes, the 'torque to yield' bolts should be replaced if they have gone past their 'elastic' measurement into the 'plastic' measurement. There will be specs to show the allowable amount of stretch. But, yes, a good rule of thumb is to replace them each time. 👍😉
Some comments are not showing on this video, but I will try and answer them. Lisa Williams commented: "What o’ring are you talking about? Mine doesn’t have any o’rings on the injectiors" Lisa, some injectors have 'O'rings as in the case I have shown in the video on a Nissan Patrol th-cam.com/video/WhMvWwcpAo4/w-d-xo.html However, the Triton 4D56 doesn't have 'o'rings and that is why I mentioned it. 😊 Mike Thomas commented: "Hi Max, had any experience with Chinese injectors ?" Mike, I have not, but because these injectors have such precise tolerances, I only use genuine injectors, not remanufactured or rebuilt due to the time it takes to remove and replace the injectors. In my opinion, it's just not worth the risk.
Cheers Jacob, I hope you found this video useful. There are plenty of other Triton videos on the channel, so if you subscribe, you won't miss out on any future videos. 😊
Hey Andrew, I haven't done injectors on a 4M41 engine, but according to the repair times, the job should be a lot easier. I'm sure that the process will be similar. MiracleMAX
Hey Just4commodores, I broke this repair up into several videos, including this one where I stated that it was over 9 months since the repair with a successful result. th-cam.com/video/iCK3REQ-yzg/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=MiracleMAX th-cam.com/video/Z6_ru3XxO20/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=MiracleMAX th-cam.com/video/LzXsCZKQHhE/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=MiracleMAX Thanks for your comment. 😁
Fantastic tutorial, I have full confidence after watching your videos. I've just installed my new genuine injectors, not sure on the torque settings for the banjo bolts on the return side, I've fitted new washers, and ave a technical sheet with torque values one stating- injector pipe unions at 35+/-5 NM is this for the supply side, both sides, or the backless side??? P.s- I know a way to prevent the oil, sludge and carbon build up to intakes- but I won't say on the internet! Thanks Max- your a guru!
Catch cans are used to separate oil, hydrocarbons, soot and condensation from the crankcase gasses. This leads to cleaner recirculation of the crankcase gasses & hopefully less build up of carbon deposits. Consider subscribing for more videos that might interest you.
G'day Max. Thanks for this video. I had the right balance shaft seize in my MN 4D56 Triton which broke the belt which jammed the timing belt which bent the valves etc. I am in the process of removing the engine to replace the shafts and take the head off for reconditioning. I was nervous about dealing with the injectors as I have had no prior experience with them but your video has given me confidence that they will be no problem. At least I now know what consumable parts to replace and how to correctly do it. I assume there is no mapping etc required when the original injectors are replaced? I hope you keep the Triton videos coming. I am willing to go the full nine yards to get mine up to scratch again as it is a great vehicle.
Hey 456eec, Great to hear you are taking on such a big task. Make sure you use quality or genuine parts. You will need to carry out injector coding. th-cam.com/video/iCK3REQ-yzg/w-d-xo.html Also if the ECU doesn't do it, carry out a small injection quantity relearn. th-cam.com/video/Z6_ru3XxO20/w-d-xo.html Let us know how you go with your repair 😉👍
Hey Peter, Do you mean the seals that go into the rocker cover before the inlet manifold is placed on top? If that is the case then yes, it goes in backwards compared to how you would normally install them. Have a look at this video to see how they are placed. th-cam.com/video/FGqv-qRLkuA/w-d-xo.html
Hi Max thanks for your reply yes the seals are in the top of the rocker cover It takes Mitsubishi to do something weird to bring us undone Keep up the great videos Peter
@@whitpete5377 It's because it butts up against the inlet manifold. I made a mistake once putting them in backwards, thinking that they were put in correctly.....but they weren't! ☹ Believe it or not, I had taken heaps of photos, just not of the seals 🤔
Very articulate and informative good on mate, would be nice to have completed videos in the future instead of cutting it short. Happy subscriber here 😊😊😊🤗
Very enjoyable video. Very good mechanic work and besides the recording, editing, posting... Thanks for sharing. New subscriber to this channel.¡Muchas gracias!
Hi Max great series. I have a Triton MN don't hold it against me. Motor 4D56 completely rebuilt. I've installed it but it's over boosting at 100km it's pull 19psi an they go into limp mode at ,21 any suggestions?? Thanks Regards Dale
Won't hold it against you.....they help pay my rent! 😉Is it only since the rebuild? Does it have any fault codes? Are the hoses OK on the solenoid? Is there a check valve installed in the vacuum hose? What is the actual and desired boost pressures in live data? How do they compare?
@@MiracleMAX thanks for the reply. Did have an issue with over boost before the new engine when overtaking, it used to sit around 11psi at 100km according to data. We have replaced the turbo an boost controller vacuum pump intercooler an all hoses. I will check all the hoses later today, work gets in the way of a lot of good things. The codes were from before the motor let go one for timing sensor an the other low oil pressure. Nothing current? Will the boost controller need adjusting? Regards Dale
I started using a GScan 1, but now use a GScan 3 (the one in the video). I also currently use an Autel Maxisys Ultra, which has a VCMI (used for programming), also an inbuilt multimeter, oscilloscope and function generator. A great step up!
Hey mate I have installed a new head and reinstalling my existing injectors but I am finding it hard for them to seal with old and even new copper washers. Is there a way or technique to seat them properly without them leaking?
Hey Patrick, The seats must be absolutely clean, the bolts must be torqued to a specific tension. Copper washers should be replaced every time the injectors are removed. Are you losing compression past the washers? The injectors may be damaged on their sealing surface. Is it a new head or reconditioned? Perhaps someone has cut the seats on the head before and now there is not enough tension on the injector as it tries to seat.
@@MiracleMAX im solving the p0089 problem of triton 2009 i have a new scv and rail pressure sensor. the engine is newly overhauled by other shop. the rpm cant go beyond 3k rpm
The 4d56 dont have pcv valve it totaly normal to have oil in intaje because like every cranckcase ventilation injected before turbo intake small amount of oil go to the combustiln chamber
That's a great question. It's easy to get it wrong (I did! - only once). The seal faces with the open end up, with the spring showing. It goes against how you think a normal seal would sit. Have a close look at the link here. I always take a photo before I do any work and then refer back to it if unsure. th-cam.com/video/WhMvWwcpAo4/w-d-xo.html
AutoData says it should take 3.10 hours. Not unless you are strung up on 20 cups of coffee! These times are based on a new vehicle with no issues. No overtightened bolts, no injectors that are stuck in place, no updating of the coding or small injection quantity relearn. I am not fast by any means, just thorough. I would personally allow another hour or two, especially if this is your first time.
Hey Graf AMV, Do you mean what injectors are in the Triton 4D56? They are Denso solenoid injectors with the part number listed in the video. th-cam.com/video/WhMvWwcpAo4/w-d-xo.html
There is a low pressure hand primer on the filter. This supplies fuel to the high pressure pump. You shouldn't have to purge the injectors. As long as you have primed the system, they should self bleed due to the pressure out of the return lines.
Great video, I've learned a lot from you. But can I ask you some questions ? 1. How you remove the injector ? Did you use some special tool ? 2. To clean the injector portal holes, Is it good to just wipe with the towel and spray some carb cleaner ? because I've got no air compressor. I worry that it won't be cleaned enough to seat the injector.
Hey Someone, Removing an injector can be easy or hard, depending on if it has carbon build up around it. I was fortunate in this in case and they came out easily. Other times, you may need special tools to remove them. Depending on how much carbon there is on the seat, you might be able to clean it up with a spray and rag, but it is hard to access. Other times, the seat may be damaged and you might need a seat cutter at that stage to repair any damage. MiracleMAX
Hey Warren10241, Unfortunately for this customer, it only had 160,000 Km on the clock. He hadn't had it long, so who knows what maintenance the previous owner did to it.
2 years later and very useful. Great info. Any bolt with a torque + deg is a stretch bolt and should be replaced. Your information and details make this a less daunting job.
I'm glad you found the information useful.
Yes, the 'torque to yield' bolts should be replaced if they have gone past their 'elastic' measurement into the 'plastic' measurement. There will be specs to show the allowable amount of stretch. But, yes, a good rule of thumb is to replace them each time. 👍😉
I'm revisiting this video. By far the best about this specific subject in the whole internet
Thanks Carlos, I appreciate the compliment 😉👍
Thank you for putting together this video mate. Much appriciated
No problem Brett, I hope you got some benefit from the video 😉👍
As a mechanic I'm very comfortable getting someone else to do this job on my car. 🤣. Great Video. Getting too old for this sort of work. 🤦♂️
You are right. I now know what contortionists have to go through.
Thanks for your comments. 😉👍
I hope process would be similar to Triton as u mentioned. I'll give it ago. Thanks Max.
I hope it goes well for you.
Let us know how you go.
Some comments are not showing on this video, but I will try and answer them.
Lisa Williams commented: "What o’ring are you talking about? Mine doesn’t have any o’rings on the injectiors"
Lisa, some injectors have 'O'rings as in the case I have shown in the video on a Nissan Patrol th-cam.com/video/WhMvWwcpAo4/w-d-xo.html
However, the Triton 4D56 doesn't have 'o'rings and that is why I mentioned it. 😊
Mike Thomas commented: "Hi Max, had any experience with Chinese injectors ?"
Mike, I have not, but because these injectors have such precise tolerances, I only use genuine injectors, not remanufactured or rebuilt due to the time it takes to remove and replace the injectors. In my opinion, it's just not worth the risk.
I'm waiting for the injectors to come and I'll let u know how I go. Cheers,
Look forward to hearing from you
Mate. You're a legend. Thanks for making the vid!
Cheers Jacob,
I hope you found this video useful.
There are plenty of other Triton videos on the channel, so if you subscribe, you won't miss out on any future videos. 😊
Good video. I got a Pajero 3.2 diesel is the injector job similar Triton?
Hey Andrew,
I haven't done injectors on a 4M41 engine, but according to the repair times, the job should be a lot easier. I'm sure that the process will be similar.
MiracleMAX
Well explained Max. Excellent video. Thank you. Is there another video of the outcome of this? Cheers mate.
Hey Just4commodores,
I broke this repair up into several videos, including this one where I stated that it was over 9 months since the repair with a successful result.
th-cam.com/video/iCK3REQ-yzg/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=MiracleMAX
th-cam.com/video/Z6_ru3XxO20/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=MiracleMAX
th-cam.com/video/LzXsCZKQHhE/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=MiracleMAX
Thanks for your comment. 😁
Fantastic tutorial, I have full confidence after watching your videos.
I've just installed my new genuine injectors, not sure on the torque settings for the banjo bolts on the return side, I've fitted new washers, and ave a technical sheet with torque values one stating- injector pipe unions at 35+/-5 NM is this for the supply side, both sides, or the backless side???
P.s- I know a way to prevent the oil, sludge and carbon build up to intakes- but I won't say on the internet!
Thanks Max- your a guru!
Thank you kindly for your comments. I'm glad the video was helpful.
I will be putting out some other Triton videos soon.
Well done buddy 👌👍👏
Thank you! Cheers. There seems to be a lot of interest in these injectors. 😉
G’day mate. Saw your videos for the first time today. Excellent. I was looking for opinions on catch cans for a 2022 MR Triton 4 x 4.
Catch cans are used to separate oil, hydrocarbons, soot and condensation from the crankcase gasses. This leads to cleaner recirculation of the crankcase gasses & hopefully less build up of carbon deposits. Consider subscribing for more videos that might interest you.
G'day Max.
Thanks for this video. I had the right balance shaft seize in my MN 4D56 Triton which broke the belt which jammed the timing belt which bent the valves etc. I am in the process of removing the engine to replace the shafts and take the head off for reconditioning. I was nervous about dealing with the injectors as I have had no prior experience with them but your video has given me confidence that they will be no problem. At least I now know what consumable parts to replace and how to correctly do it. I assume there is no mapping etc required when the original injectors are replaced?
I hope you keep the Triton videos coming. I am willing to go the full nine yards to get mine up to scratch again as it is a great vehicle.
Hey 456eec,
Great to hear you are taking on such a big task. Make sure you use quality or genuine parts.
You will need to carry out injector coding.
th-cam.com/video/iCK3REQ-yzg/w-d-xo.html
Also if the ECU doesn't do it, carry out a small injection quantity relearn.
th-cam.com/video/Z6_ru3XxO20/w-d-xo.html
Let us know how you go with your repair 😉👍
Hey max do the injector oil seals go in upside down like the injector fuel lines on a 4D56T
Cheers
Peter
Hey Peter,
Do you mean the seals that go into the rocker cover before the inlet manifold is placed on top? If that is the case then yes, it goes in backwards compared to how you would normally install them. Have a look at this video to see how they are placed.
th-cam.com/video/FGqv-qRLkuA/w-d-xo.html
Hi Max thanks for your reply yes the seals are in the top of the rocker cover
It takes Mitsubishi to do something weird to bring us undone
Keep up the great videos
Peter
@@whitpete5377 It's because it butts up against the inlet manifold. I made a mistake once putting them in backwards, thinking that they were put in correctly.....but they weren't! ☹ Believe it or not, I had taken heaps of photos, just not of the seals 🤔
Very articulate and informative good on mate, would be nice to have completed videos in the future instead of cutting it short. Happy subscriber here 😊😊😊🤗
Hey Senata Brian,
Glad you are a happy subscriber, but what do you mean cutting the videos short?
Cheers 😊
I learned from this video. Give the car to an expert with the proper tools and scan-code tool. Knowledge of all the steps with hidden bolts etc.
Thanks Malcolm Stuart N,
I appreciate your comment 😉
MiracleMAX
Very enjoyable video. Very good mechanic work and besides the recording, editing, posting...
Thanks for sharing. New subscriber to this channel.¡Muchas gracias!
Hey Carlos Bah,
Thanks for your kind words. I have quite a few videos on Tritons that you might find interesting.
Thanks for subscribing! 😊
Hi Max great series.
I have a Triton MN don't hold it against me. Motor 4D56 completely rebuilt. I've installed it but it's over boosting at 100km it's pull 19psi an they go into limp mode at ,21 any suggestions??
Thanks
Regards Dale
Won't hold it against you.....they help pay my rent! 😉Is it only since the rebuild? Does it have any fault codes? Are the hoses OK on the solenoid? Is there a check valve installed in the vacuum hose? What is the actual and desired boost pressures in live data? How do they compare?
@@MiracleMAX thanks for the reply. Did have an issue with over boost before the new engine when overtaking, it used to sit around 11psi at 100km according to data. We have replaced the turbo an boost controller vacuum pump intercooler an all hoses. I will check all the hoses later today, work gets in the way of a lot of good things. The codes were from before the motor let go one for timing sensor an the other low oil pressure. Nothing current? Will the boost controller need adjusting?
Regards Dale
@@dalesutton7413 Has anyone had a play with the actuator adjustment rod?
@@MiracleMAX no it's brand new
Is the turbo new? Can you feel if the vanes are free to move?
Hi Max ,what is the G scan that you use please ,looking to buy one
I started using a GScan 1, but now use a GScan 3 (the one in the video). I also currently use an Autel Maxisys Ultra, which has a VCMI (used for programming), also an inbuilt multimeter, oscilloscope and function generator. A great step up!
Just chasing socket size needed to remove injectors/ glow plugs.whatevers needed if I get water ingress
I think the injector clamp bolts are 12mm & the glow plugs are 10mm
Hey mate I have installed a new head and reinstalling my existing injectors but I am finding it hard for them to seal with old and even new copper washers. Is there a way or technique to seat them properly without them leaking?
Hey Patrick,
The seats must be absolutely clean, the bolts must be torqued to a specific tension. Copper washers should be replaced every time the injectors are removed. Are you losing compression past the washers? The injectors may be damaged on their sealing surface. Is it a new head or reconditioned? Perhaps someone has cut the seats on the head before and now there is not enough tension on the injector as it tries to seat.
Is it best to adjust the rockers while u have the cover off ?
Yes, that would be a good idea. These had already been done during normal servicing.
If I rearranged the injectors do i need to do the small injection quantity relearn? newbie here :)
Hey Robert,
You will need to do an injector calibration as well as a quantity relearn.
Do you have a scan tool capable of doing that?
MIracleMAX
@@MiracleMAX thank you sir. Sadly i dont have a scan tool that can do that.
@@hino-robertbryans.candelar3027 Can I ask why you want to rearrange the injectors anyway?
@@MiracleMAX im solving the p0089 problem of triton 2009 i have a new scv and rail pressure sensor. the engine is newly overhauled by other shop. the rpm cant go beyond 3k rpm
@@hino-robertbryans.candelar3027 So why do you need to rearrange the injectors? Have you removed them already?
The 4d56 dont have pcv valve it totaly normal to have oil in intaje because like every cranckcase ventilation injected before turbo intake small amount of oil go to the combustiln chamber
Thanks for sharing your comment.
Hey mate what is the correct way that the rocker cover injector seals sit???
That's a great question. It's easy to get it wrong (I did! - only once).
The seal faces with the open end up, with the spring showing. It goes against how you think a normal seal would sit. Have a close look at the link here. I always take a photo before I do any work and then refer back to it if unsure.
th-cam.com/video/WhMvWwcpAo4/w-d-xo.html
@@MiracleMAX thanks buddy
Yes it seems odd to put seals in that way but I now know if you put them in the usual way they leak like crazy
@@whitpete5377 Too true!! 🤔
Im currently redoing my injectors. Where would you find the torque specs for the whole job?
Hey Phillip, I use Autodata, but any automotive data provider should give you the specs.
@@MiracleMAX awesome. Thankyou
Hi Max how many hours do you reckon all this takes?
AutoData says it should take 3.10 hours. Not unless you are strung up on 20 cups of coffee! These times are based on a new vehicle with no issues. No overtightened bolts, no injectors that are stuck in place, no updating of the coding or small injection quantity relearn. I am not fast by any means, just thorough. I would personally allow another hour or two, especially if this is your first time.
can you tell what type is injectors? cause it inside valve cover , ford ranger outside valve cover
Hey Graf AMV,
Do you mean what injectors are in the Triton 4D56? They are Denso solenoid injectors with the part number listed in the video.
th-cam.com/video/WhMvWwcpAo4/w-d-xo.html
Hi, how you purge this injectors under the rocker cover?
There is a low pressure hand primer on the filter. This supplies fuel to the high pressure pump. You shouldn't have to purge the injectors. As long as you have primed the system, they should self bleed due to the pressure out of the return lines.
@@MiracleMAX Thanks, this procedure is poorly described in the maintenance manual, thanks for share your experience.
@@cuentafalsaysospechosa7818 You are welcome! 😁
Hallo sir after fixing the injector how can I check fuel leackag from return pipe and nozle pipe
That's a tough one on this design as they are under the rocker cover & inlet manifold.
Hi I have the same model I'm working on now doing the timing belt is there anyway I'm able to get in contact with you for some advice? Thanks mate
My email is miraclemax3@hotmail.com
Hello Sir, which one is the injector nr 1? How do you start counting?Thx
#1 injector is at the front of the engine
Awesome 👌 how much would a job like this roughly cost to have this job done mate ?
Hey Harold,
It's best to speak to a local mechanic as prices vary according to genuine/non-genuine parts and labour costs
Great video, I've learned a lot from you.
But can I ask you some questions ?
1. How you remove the injector ? Did you use some special tool ?
2. To clean the injector portal holes, Is it good to just wipe with the towel and spray some carb cleaner ?
because I've got no air compressor. I worry that it won't be cleaned enough to seat the injector.
Hey Someone,
Removing an injector can be easy or hard, depending on if it has carbon build up around it. I was fortunate in this in case and they came out easily. Other times, you may need special tools to remove them.
Depending on how much carbon there is on the seat, you might be able to clean it up with a spray and rag, but it is hard to access. Other times, the seat may be damaged and you might need a seat cutter at that stage to repair any damage.
MiracleMAX
@@MiracleMAX
Ok I understand now.
I will try on my car soon.
Hope I don't make a mess haha.
Thank you from Thailand.
@@somebodyinnobody I hope it goes well. Let us know how it turns out.
Great vid! What was the mileage on the vehicle?
Hey Warren10241,
Unfortunately for this customer, it only had 160,000 Km on the clock. He hadn't had it long, so who knows what maintenance the previous owner did to it.
Thank for video great job
Hey Stuart,
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! 😊
Can we contact sir on wattsapp... Plz
You can contact me by using the Email address listed under the 'about' tab on the channel home page.