Can Corsair's LEGEND continue? - K70 RGB Pro Keyboard
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ค. 2024
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Corsair's K70 has been around for a long time, and it's been one of their best sellers for mechanical keyboards, but lately, custom keyboards are starting to grow rapidly due to their styling and just overall feel. So can this legendary keyboard stay relevant?
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 - PAIN
0:20 - Keyboard overview
1:30 - Unboxing
2:26 - Exterior overview
3:01 - Keyboard USB-C cord
3:28 - Unboxing continued
4:20 - Tournament switch
4:53 - Media keys
5:09 - Cable channel impressions
5:44 - Wrist rest thoughts
6:18 - Build strength impressions
6:30 - Keystroke impressions
6:47 - It's not hot-swap
8:13 - Custom USB-C keyboard cable
8:37 - Sponsor - Manscaped
9:06 - RGB impressions
10:18 - Typing impressions between switches
11:15 - Colour impressions
11:25 - Typing impressions continued
13:35 - iCUE software impressions
13:51 - What is Keyboard Devounce
14:05 - iCUE continued
15:00 - Why onboard memory is good
15:15 - 8Khz typing test
15:40 - Size and weight impressions
16:11 - Outro - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
The lock key disables Alt-Tab, Alt-F4, Shift-Tab & the Windows key. And you can toggle which ones are active in iCue, in the "Performance" tab.
Absolutely a win while gaming. The amount of times I've accidentally alt/shift-tabbed or pressed the win-key while playing a fullscreen game has annoyed me to hell.. Now, I did unlearn the behavior over time and I actually never use this lock key anymore; but for people that are less used to using the keyboard, or when a game has something bound that's close to these combo's, it's a life saver :D
Note to self: Who asked? :P
the amount of times I've died accidently hitting my windows buttons is a tonnnnn
Once he said he doesn't know, i knew his a noob :D
@@sinlife8662 "Let me sneak around the corner and knife this guy" **windows menu** // faaaaaaaaa*****k
UNFORTUNATELY, I just visited their website and they’re extremely woke. DEI, ESG, BLM… more bullshit than you can shake a stick at.
Pretty sure the channels underneath the keyboard are for head phone/mic cables. The keyboard cable comes out the top so unlikely you'll need to route them through the keyboard itself.
My thought exactly!
Or even mouse.
@@AmKhaibitu maybe but I think it would make the mouse harder to use.
@@Toshikumo cable for those wireless mousepad mice?
My exact thoughts sir
Hot-swappable switches can turn a good keyboard into an amazing keyboard from both customizability and repairability standpoints.
I have the Glorious PC Gaming GMMK and took it from Gateron Browns (not bad compared to MX Brown) to Glorious Pandas (lubed) and it feels fantastic.
Yeah for the price I'd expect a hot swap really it's a must have feature for me
Yeah, you just pull a key from the ones you never use and swap out your worn out WSAD keys lol.
@@NightMotorcyclist if you use cheap gateron switches for $160 you can get Akko MOD005 kit + switches + decent keycaps like YMDK PBT or TaiHao ABS ones, + with MOD005 you get both aluminium and fiberglass plate included if you want somethis more soft to type on, somes with nice looking coiled stock cable and it supports screw-in stabilizers so in a year let's say you can put sme $20-30 expensive stabs and more premium switches along the way because it's how swap, I got a custom 60% myself but if I was building something today myself Akko MOD005 kit would be a clear choise
@@komi1834 I don't use gateron switches. While the browns felt much better than the Cherry MX Browns, I have swapped out the switches for the Glorious Panda lubed (far more accessible than the Holy Pandas) and with their dye sub PBT keycaps the board feels amazing to type on. A little heavy and a bit like my Model M in terms of sound but good for long typing sessions, gaming is another story. I also daily drive my HyperX Alloy Origins with the aqua switches and lubed them. Feels far better than any brown switch and is great for those times when I want something light for typing or gaming on. I just got an Asus ROG Falchion NX with their new tactile NX switches and they feel very tactile and a nice in between of the pandas and browns in terms of actuation weight. Typing feels a bit chintzy but it may be the keycaps. I only have this board because it's wireless.
I have a K70 LUX that I've been using for almost 5 years. Still going strong. The only weak point was the keycaps, which started wearing smooth after about 18 months. So I ordered a set of the PBT double-shot caps from Corsair. They are fantastic and holding up great. The rest of the keyboard is still trucking.
Same here. The keycaps the K70 LUX comes with are crap but swapping them for PBT caps gives the keyboard new life.
Hold onto the lux as long as possible!
These new ones have horrible metal pinging.
I'm so sad my better quality lux broke 😢😢
13:24 - The volume roller is a must-have for me. It's probably my favorite feature on my original K70.
I fairly consistently disagree with Plouffe's opinions in the Short Circuit videos he hosts, so not really surprised at this point.
I like the stiff rollers, which the corsairs seem to be; but I detest the loose ones that logitech tends to use. It's so damn hard to get just 1-2 notches of volume difference with the loose ones, and on my one logitech I have at work I literally created a macro for up/down instead of using the built in roller.
If it's a stiff roller tho, it's great. I also disagree with Plouffe a lot; but I don't think that's a bad thing.
agree, single colour k70 owner here and I love that sound barrel. also hate those media keys, you can't see them it's dumb to have to memorize the position of play/stop
Anyone with a mildly better audio setup has an amp and uses the much better feeling knob on that, so I for example didn't even bother buying a keyboard with a volume roller as I don't need it. And people who can spend $170 on a plastic RGB "gaming" keyboard should have enough money left over for an entry-level audio setup.
@@TDPEquinox It is a good thing! Knowing the reviewer is crucial in understanding the review.
@@jonaskonrad right but it's still pretty convenient to be able to adjust volume without having to move your hand off the keyboard and over to an amp/dac. I honestly doubt I'll buy a keyboard again that doesn't have a volume knob
I have a 1st gen K70 with Cherry Reds and it served me well for all these years. I did an oring mod and added electrical tape on the stabs (+ lube).
Only one key started acting weird, I managed to change the switch but it was a pain to open and then desolder, a ton of screws that were extremely tight, even a couple hidden under the logo and a cover next to the volume wheel, hotswap would’ve been a godsend.
Detachable cable is a nice upgrade but it lost the front feet and the key’s font is crap, too “gamery” to my taste.
I really wish the switches were not soldered down. I'd like to put blue switches on a-z then reds for everything else. I'm glad you posted this since I don't think I'm going to bother modifying my K70 now.
I agree about the font. I wish Corsair would have stuck with the original font.
Same, I have replaced my cable like three times now! Every corner is dented but every key is still going strong (blues).
Glad to see a refresh staying true!
I've had the same keyboard for many years now and it's still working great. I just added O-Rings too and it was a nice addition. I've always kept the keyboard flat. Do you use the front feet out only?
love my old k70 red as well, 6 years or more and it still rocks. Also did o rings. Best money spend.
"I'm ok with tactile switches but it's weird like I can feel the click"
Sir, that.. that's what tactile means....
Aaaah, I know what you mean, but what he meant was the clicky switch vs tactile switches thing
That, yeah, browns, to him are ok, but those blues hurt him kinda thing
@@FF18Cloud lmao no worries I was being very pedantic lol, I got what he meant it was just the wording absolutely required I say that
It's so amazing that it costs approximately what I paid for my first gen K70...
The new USB-C cable thing is great but it's also kind of sad that it doesn't include an extra USB-A port though, that's where I currently have my fingerprint sensor
@@lexecomplexe4083 Yeah! I personally have a FeinTech FPS00200 and it's great. Plug and play and can sign in with Windows Hello super fast as it is right on the keyboard :D
Love the pass through I keep my headphones wireless receiver there to get extra range without it being stuck behind the metal sheet of a monitor
@@indeed1023 I agree. I 'upgraded' to the 10 keyless version of this and the lack of a second port sucks.
"it's like you can feel the click"
You are absolutely correct. You are feeling the click jacket on the stem rattle up and down with every keypress. This is also why Cherry Blue sounds so high pitch.
Plouf should try the Box Jades by Kaihl and experience the exciting deep click of a click bar.
Thank you for having a reviewer who really does know his shit when it comes to this stuff, while not being a snob. Great job.
Thanks! @ Plouffe on Twitter
@@De4dSp0t well yeah the lock button is more for people who press alt tab or win key and shit like that while gaming and if you don't make that mistake you don't need to know what it does, you just use it normally
@@kaneki1056 It never even happened once to me in over 15 years of gaming. Some people really struggle with the most basic tasks lol
@@jonaskonrad my pc is shit so loading times is terrible especially on a heavy task so hitting the windows takes what feels like hours to come on. It's nice to have i guess.
Sarcasm?
I think Tournament Mode is so that in theory you can bring it to a tournament and they know you aren't cheating because that switch disables macros?
That's what I was thinking too. And they can ogle the orange mark from a distance.
That's exactly what it is.
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Oh, I though "Tournament Mode" would also disable the Windows-key similar to "Game Mode" (FN + Scroll Lock) on the Roccat-keyboards...
@@PaveMentman yeah but they already found a specific key to windows lock
My first board was this exact board with speed silvers, and it was NOT hotswappable, NOR was there a detachable Type C… and then I fell down the custom mechanical keyboard rabbithole
It was interesting to see how much my preferences swing away from his. I have an OG K70 with Cherry Blues, and I adore it for work. I also have K70 RGB with Browns and it works great as well. I've always been a bit sad that they dropped USB Passthrough and wish that'd make a comeback one of these years. I'm glad they at least have a detatchable cable.
Hotswap switches would be a nice addition if implemented well. My keyboards' wrist rests are attached with clips rather than magnets, but I also find them comfortable.
I do get the impression that he's never been fond of the Corsair keyboards, rather than this one in particular being disappointing. To each their own I suppose, but the narritive doesn't match the title... I'm sure there's a bit of isolation between the production and SEO teams there though.
I used to use the newer K70 gen 1 where people complained about the Corsair logo. I remembered wanting one sooo much that it was all I could think of whenever I go shopping. I ultimately bought one in the end and used for a few months and started to not like it anymore. Felt disappointing to me. I guess my taste changes really really quick during the time of me wanting the keyboard
It's not a grudge against corsair. It's entirely his preference, and it's quite representative of the keyboard enthusiast community. He's being very generous to be honest, mainstream keyboard manufacturers need to up their game.
@@ubberJakerz Nah, definitely not a grudge, just that they've never been his cup of tea.
I'm FAR from a keyboard enthusiast myself. I just need need something comfortable to type on that's full-size with num-pad (my shoulders are way too wide for a reduced size or lack of num-pad), sturdy and has good switches... and backlit keys are nice.
Although I will say, if you're shelling out $80 for a USB cable for your keyboard, I'm guessing a keyboard in the $150 price range probably isn't going to satisfy you as compromises exist.
@@JerryLoffelbein Something that's important to note is that a "reduced size keyboard" would have 0 impact on the actual dimensions of the keyboard. It's a different layout, but the size of keys and length/hight of rows doesn't change at all. If your shoulders are wide enough for a regular 100%, any discomfort you find on a 60% is unrelated to your shoulders. But I agree that numpads can be nice, and there are 100% custom layouts that are available.
Not to say that an $80 cable is reasonable, but he's talking Canadian. I got mine for 40 US. And you'd be surprised how little a custom build can cost. For 50 bucks you can bury anything corsair puts out, as long as you're willing to learn.
But that's the thing. Major keyboard manufacturers are banking on the fact that most most people won't. But that's changing.
@@ubberJakerz Yeah, the discomfort that arises from me using smaller width keyboards has to do with posture, with me keeping my mouse closer to the keyboard, so I tend to get lopsided over time. A full width profile helps me keep my mouse where it belongs.
I'd never really thought about a 60% just being a different layout. I've used "60%" keyboards and devices in the past that were absolutely smaller, but none of them used mechanical switches, so definitely not a fair comparison.
Hotswap, lubed, damping material, etc... would like to see Corsair do.
I'm glad the keyboards are improving since the gaming series originally with the gaming fonts
Looks more nicer now
improving? 170$ for hot garbage. you can get a POS 30~35$ redragon keyboard that is miles better construction quality and has hot swappable switches. Yes it lacks macro keys and full customizable RGB, but honestly that software cost basically nothing to make at this point. Corsair is robbing you blind, and your happily eating it up.
@@ramair325 yup last week I bought keychron Q1 fully assemble @USD 120.
Just buy one of the many other options that ticks those boxes already.
@@ramair325 Redragon keyboards are a bit more expensive now that they've introduced hotswap keyboards, and the sockets are for Outemu switch which means you'll need to file the legs of your other switches down.
Still, my Redragon k551 that cost me 35$ a few years ago sounds and feels quite decent, especially with all the modding. So the corsair is a pretty bad deal, especially when you consider the price of decent switches, like the Tecsee Purple Panda I'm planning to install.
@@ramair325 keyboards are like audio now. lots of people will waste their time spending way more for dogshit when theres cheaper options that are miles better.
I have an 8 or 9 year old K70 that's still going strong(ish). Got it from my friend, he spilled coke on it a couple years after he bought it, so I cleaned it and got it working. However I did spill some water on it last month and have been getting some double inputs, so looks like it's time for some keyboard surgery.
Celebrating almost 8 years with my Corsair K70 keyboard! 🎉 This bad boy has been my gaming partner in crime since day one. Cherry MX switches, RGB lighting, and a solid aluminum frame - it's seen it all. Cheers to more gaming adventures with my trusty keyboard!
Had no idea that brown switches were "the industry standard". I do love them, and wish i had come across them way earlier than i did
Thats a meme
Yeah about that, I have news to tell you.
Is there a single keyboard that is mechanical, has decent RGB, hot-swappable AND is not a TKL? Thanks to these videos, I think I know exactly what I want and am having the hardest time finding something that fits all of these criteria.
I was complaining about not hearing the person behind the camera for a while and now there are subtitles. Thanks LTT!!! :D
I am still using my ancient K.70 RGB MK.2 Special Edition. And waiting for the right keyboard to arrive. Man, this is so disappointing to know that they released neither wireless nor hot-swappable.
I guess I'll just have to go with either Logitech's Wireless or stick to wired for a fully customized GMMK Pro.
from my understanding, the cable channels are for running headset cables. not the keyboard cable itself lol
One thing I noticed between my first gen K70 and the K70 RGB Pro is the standard bottom row on the Pro. Thank you! I tried replacing keycaps on my old K70 and ran into the issue that the entire bottom row from Ctrl to Ctrl was incompatible because of the spacing used between Ctrl and Win buttoms on either side. As well as the spacebar key beying shorter than usual. The RGB Pro to me also has a nicer texture on the keys. The original K70 always felt greasy in a way because of how smooth the keys were. I imagine the more textured finish will age better over time and be less prone to become glossy.
Me personally I use a Wooting One, and hopefully getting the 60HE real soon. I know some people swear by a numberpad, but for me, I just map the Insert, Home, Page Up etc to macros. The flaretech switches are okay, never tried the lekker switches so hope they're better.
I bought the TKL version of this, and I unironically love it as a daily beater for gaming. Up to 4000 Hz (real) polling, which no one can say they really feel in-game, but it's sturdy and feature complete. The aluminum top plate and extended forehead make it look nice for some reason too. No hotswap, but taking it apart isn't that complicated (16-17 screws all on the top, then it comes apart in half). The only thing I wish was that the 75% layout was more widespread, so that prebuilt brands with all the engineering and manufacturing capacity behind them can finally start making those.
It sounds so stupid when people add words like literally or unironically.
I have a K70 from when they had the old gaming logo. Still running like a champ. Icue on the otherhand...
I completely agree that Corsair needs to make repairing the keyboards a priority for new releases. My older Corsair K keyboard had the A key going bad, and I didn't want to deal with trying to solder, and needed a working keyboard ASAP, so I bought a K100.
Wait a second, I guess that explains why Corsair will never make them repairable: greed.
You lost everyone at solder
I just built a friend a customer keyboard for his birthday because his son was goofing around and dropped something on his K70 breaking a switch... yea I could have taken apart and de-soldered the old one but was able to make his new one fit his aesthetic and it sounds a billion times better.
Worth noting that corsair has removed support for internal profiles on older keyboards on newer iCUE versions, including nuking the internal profile *already saved* to the keyboard making them just completely unlit when iCUE isn't running. So those 50 profiles might suddenly turn to 0 if you don't make sure to use an older iCUE version.
yep corsair is an F tier company, hope your next upgrade can set you free of their shackles.
Ah yeah, I love pressing 20 times the volume key or hold it for whoever knows how long when I can just roll a knob instead. I have this knob on the K70 and wouldn't trade it for anything.
It's always funny seeing the reaction of people who aren't into keebs hear the cost of premium custom kits ($300+) or how much accessories like keycaps or cables can be haha I have about 14 premium builds with a few more still waiting for them to be shipped but it always cracks me up.
there are some great budget premium options nowadays, like Akko MOD005, for $129 you get 65% pcb with support for screw-in stabs, good aluminium gasket mounted case, both aluminium and fr4 plate come included, stock coiled cable which looks better than any stock cable I've seen(I got myself a custom coiled cable but not a fan of it, kinda pointless for someone who doesn't have as much keyboards as you got, it does look nice for pictures) so like just put durock screw-in stabs, some switches and keycaps and you got yourself a great keyboard for lot less than what I paid for my budget 60% build not that long ago(I got split spacebar that Akko MOD005 doesn't tho and I much prefer look of my 5 degree case from KBDfans)
@@komi1834 oh yeah this past year alone has been a great year for budget keebs in more than just the popular 60% variant too so you’re not wrong my friend. It just always makes me chuckle when people talk about the ridiculous of our hobby(cus it really can be) and i liked akko for a little bit but after having 2 back to back dead pcb’s for my mod003 i had to give up on akko products, now my mod003 is just a big paperweight on work desk unfortunately.
the crab rave when he was moving around was fucking hilarious lmao
I have the older k70 RGB with speed silver caps, and I love it :)
I just wish they had reduced the full travel and not just reduced the activation distance...
same caps with k70 red, usually stuck on moving after a cutscene because fingers resting weight is more than needed to activate those switches. it's like training to be Goku,meliodas or saitama and trying to not kill enemies with a simple touch
@@massimiliano1306 Yep! :)
that's what the low profile version is for
(1:57) I agree with Jono on that. I was given a free broken Corsair K60 as it had a messed up matrix from a liquid spill, it couldn't be repaired as doing so would require the entire keyboard to be taken apart, and I decided to just part it out, also because the original K60 was a partially mechanical keyboard, then keep the MX Red switches for a project of mine, keep the chassis (without the PCB) to use as an oversized key switch tester and USB extender, and then use most of the keycaps on one of my other keyboards.
"I set it to blue and leave it" ..... ...... ..... that was a tad too personal hahahaha
Would have liked to see it be hot swappable as well :/ that is a huge bummer cause I like using different switches for different functions or layouts. I got a custom keyboard that when I use a different layer I want a completely different feel for my switches and I can do that because I have hot swappable switches.
I would like plouffe to just tell us about his favourite keyboards for an hour or so. Passion projects are always fun to watch.
I got the K70 Lux MK1 with MX red keys a couple of years ago after rocking my trusty old Cherry G80-3000 for almost twenty years. Best decision. Still love it to this day.
Would love that USB-C port though.
If you don't want to go all in on a custom mechanical keyboard (which you should!), do yourself a favour and get a Keychron Q1 or something. Aluminium case, hot swap switches, pretty much most of the "features" like detachable USB-C and RGB you find on the Corsair for less money...
"Looks how much nicer It looks now!" connects a thick blue braided cable with a silicon sleeve on top with orange accents and huge orange barrel plug looking thingy.
Yeah, thats’s gonna be a ‘no’ from me dawg
I like the idea of disconnecting or possibility of changing the cable of a keyboard. It's true that it sucks to have to remove all key caps to remove 1 mechanical key. I just don't want cherry MX keys so maybe not a candidate for me, i rather homebrand keys.
Honestly, this looks so much nicer than my Corsair Strafe Mk.II keyboard. On the Strafe, the wrist rest is a snap in one and the prongs have broken so I don't really use it anymore. The key layout on mine is the weird non standard Corsair layout (this k70 looks standard). Also pretty much all of my keycaps have a cracked stem so I've replaced the whole set of keycaps (except for CTRL, WIN, WIN, context menu, CTRL on the bottom row). Also my backlighting is turned off completely now because only about 2 years in, the lights started flickering to the point of distraction. I would actually consider this K70 Pro, although I've also been thinking about getting one of the Drop keyboards with the hot swappable switches, which doesn't cost too much more.
8:30 THE CORSAIR SAILS ARE BACK!!! They stopped using the tramp stamp. When did they go back to using the old school sails?
Not sure if tournament mode would do the same but my old K70 has a bios switch which puts the a keyboard in a cut down low polling no macro mode to improve compatibility. Also I'm quite disappointed they removed the usb pass through I use it that almost daily
Thank you so much for the review, I have the old K70 RGB. The cable sleeve is recessing and it's just showing its age, for me its the layout and the sound.
I just love LMG editors
This is why i love Cherry Board - they have Media Keys as mechanical keys included in all their schemes.
Why tf would you not have media keys, even an Office PC is a Multimedia machine even if its only playing Spotify. I hate that gaming keyboards deem this feature often as unneccessary and include some stupid key lockouts instead. Who tf really need those. I never hit ALT TAB or Win key by accident.
love the crab rave meme editing xD
I've stuck with Corsair for a long time when it comes to keyboard just cause of the media buttons & volume scroll, + their one of the few companys that still included Cherry MX Blues with all those features, this new K70 definitely strikes my interest a bit, looks quite nice imo, and my old K70 is a bit on the abused side at this point.
They're*
11:36 LOL this is the exact keyboard I just got the cherry mx blue and I love it 🤣🤣🤣
a non-swappable mechanical keyboard is like a car that comes with "fixed" tires.
I hate REDs,
I LOVE Blues
I can get used to and not feel ashamed with browns. Also the best one is by far blue as it lets you feel the keypress instead of guessing it
I'm still using my RGB K95 from 2016. It's a good keyboard, and I like the 18! macro keys that it comes with. If Corsair ever made another keyboard with this amount of macro switches, I might be tempted to switch, but for now I'm going to be sticking to the old workhorse.
Same, the macros are really nice.
I love my K95 so much that when I found out they discontinued it I bought a spare that's in the closet in my office right now for when my original one eventually dies. I'd be all over a new version with the 18 macro keys.
I got the last gen k68 as my first mechanical keyboard and I absolutely loved the little plastic bar thing. I got lucky and got the cherry MX red version for 80$, for that price I think it's a pretty sweet keyboard.
Also the media buttons are super nice
Corsair has disappointed me, I was so close to being SOLD. Hollow, soldered, flex, dim LEDS, inconsistent switch sounds, and to allow lubing.
I have little familiarity with the various types of switches, but I have heard that the Cherry line, whilst they're the gold standard (which doesn't mean what most people think it means), there are better options out there. Be nice if Corsair not only introduced hot-swappable, but also added at least a couple of non-Cherry options.
Cherry used to be good back in the old days when there weren't that many competitors. For now, Cherry is just a mediocre OEM supplier since we got so many options
@@DZhang-cu2hs Of course there was no competition: Cherry applied a patent on their switch design and the patent only ended in 2014.
@@m4sterred853 Well that explained everything lol
depends on which cherry switches, for blue, red, black... only ~15% of them are "retooled" ones, and you got low chance to get good ones, but with MX Silver(called MX Speed in Corsair boards because Platinum in name with Silver switches would sound stupid) and these MX Silent switches they only come in retooled kind so they are good and that's why they cost more, you shouldn't be playing lottery when buying $160 keyboard imo, add a Kailh or Gateron option, not as good as retooled Cherrys but much better than if you get old ones
@@komi1834 I swapped out MX silver on my K70 to Gateron silver because they are scratchy as hell... This is the first time I ever heard about the "retooled" thing, but if this is the "better" kind of cherry then they should really try harder.
11:25 plouffe is such a mood
The OG k70 was my first mechanical keyboard and if it had a detachable cable in the first instance, I probably would never have bought a second one.
Whilst I do love my mechanical keyboards, there are trade-offs to having hot-swap keyboards. The proper custom brands really only focus on the hardware and software is an-afterthought. At best, you have QMK/VIA support thrown in.
This means that no attention is paid to debounce, which becomes an issue if you are running at high polling rates (which is how you can get "double clicking" issues with your switches).
If you are competent at programming, you can do this via QMK/VIA but not a lot of people can write a debounce algorithm. I am only aware of Glorious providing easy to use software for tailoring your debounce as well as polling rate (which is IMHO why despite all of its flaws, the GMMK is the best "all rounder" custom/semi-custom milled board currently out there).
With a prebuilt soldered board from a "big name" brand, they can fine tune and individually tailor the debounce to the switch used
Do you know what the dream, the absolute best keyboard for me would be? The Corsair K95 RGB, the one with the 18 macro keys, but with hotswappable switches (so that I can use Dark Stem Tangerines for the main board, and clicky switches on the macro keys). You can't top that I feel, it's a masterpiece of a keyboard still!!
as flashy as it may look, you'll be lucky if it still works a couple weeks after you bought it. i would avoid corsair products as best as i could, you should too.
@@alexhallert4582 I have it for 3 and a half years now, K95 RGB red switches. Works like a charm ^
8khz polling becomes important once you get over about 80,000 WPM. Even at 800WPM my accuracy goes way down though.
Telling us "you dont want to have your hands like this" Ill have my hands however i want lol
i have the k70 mk2 and im gonna use it for many many years, such a great keyboard and the rgb is really good
I personally use their K100, and I feel that the K100 is almost perfect, I think it just needs a detachable cable and hotswap, though I don't think I would use either.
i just bought this keyboard yesterday and i really like it. the speed silver switches are really nice and its my first mechanical keyboard. before, i always used a membrane keyboard and this feels so much better, but if you so much as BREATHE on these keys, they press and i like it but at the same time dont. its gonna be taking some getting used to but so far im a big fan of it.
*Cherry Browns*
Brandon: The Best!
Glarses: FETCH ME THEIR SOUL!
i recently bought the k95, and the only legit gripe i have with it, is that the keys are a bit 'tall' someone who was endowed worth small hands/ fingers, i sometimes make mistakes due to height and size. but in terms of quality and performance, I'd say it's pretty solid.
I also have the K95 Platiunum and cleaned it today. It was a nightmare and is a dust magnet even though its build like a tank. With the MX Speed switches its a very good gaming but a horrible typing keyboard.
@@fabianhenrich4697 i agree. it feels and looks good quality, but that doesn't help with me having a hard time reaching over such a huge keyboard
I have only owned the k70 with speed switches, I am curious if the browns have the feel of the click without the noise and if not if their is such a switch! Great video!
Is the K70 any good?
@@illzzu I got the SE edition when I built my PC and went for white theme. It looks amazing, feels ok, and my only complaint would be the "a" key switch broke twice. They only warrantied it the first time. Felt kind of bad because was what they had just "fixed". Aside that its a great keyboard, a little much to keep clean. White looks good but their is an upkeep.
yes browns have clicky feel but they dont make that plasticky noise blues do. the click jacket is a little piece of plastic smacking around in the switch shell that doesnt sound very good or do much for keyfeel compared to browns. cherry switches arent the smoothest but their quality control and reliability is top notch
Glad to see more keyboards with a silent red option.
i have the older k70 and i use the feet a lot and what i do for cable management is i put the cable in between the keyboard and desk because it leaves a bit of space there when propped up
Yet to see a keyboard that makes me think I'd want to switch from my trusty decade old Filco Majestouch 2 Ninja. Everything is all so gimicky when a keyboard just needs to type well. Even put the keyboard case through the washing machine, rinsed the PCB under the tap, relubed switches and it still feels fantastic.
I use a k100 and love it i did hit g1 instead of esc for a bit
I had that with older models, in the k100 after a single day I got used to it, but I keep hitting caps instead of tab in mmo..
I'm sitting here with the original Corsair Vengeance K70 Silver from 2013 with blue LEDs and Cherry MX Red switches. Quite a few of the LEDs have died or are a lot weaker than they should be and the Scroll Lock light is flashing. Several of the keys have no legible top anymore as they're worn out. I plan on swapping out the switches and LEDs to other colors, and some white pudding caps.
What's funny to me is that so many people say that they want at least a 75% keyboard so they keep their function keys, but they're fine losing the number pad. I'm the opposite - since I do a fair amount of data entry, it's easier for me to use the number pad as opposed to the number buttons above the letter keys. But I never use the function keys, so I'd be fine losing them and the keys above the arrow buttons with the exception of the delete key.
What's the point of the cable channels if the connection is at the back of the keyboard? My keyboard has the connection recessed on the underside in the middle. I can use the cable channels to decide whether I want the cable coming out from the middle, right, or left.
The honesty on this review is greatly appreciated
I don't know but I am more inclined towards membrane keyboards. Twice my whole keyboard started double or triple registering strokes (within 6 months). The Logitech G613. Once I got it replaced through warrenty. Second time, went straight back to my previous keyboard which has working fine for previous 2 years.
I don't know if it is the same at all, but one generally wants a harder bicycle seat with the more riding they do, so maybe one would want a harder wrist rest? I use a plastic one and never questioned it (but I guess I don't lean into it either? idk).
Might I say, that crab rave dance was fire.
4:15 the subtle Glade air freshener jingle.
1:02 We needed this meme.
I know nobody asked, but I have first gen K70 RGB (identical to the one Linus reviewed in 2014) with red switches. It has survived large cup of coffee and I'm loving it. Gonna use it to the end.
Even then I'm going to reuse the keycaps as the new font is terrible imo.
Same here. Eight plus years and going strong. I just wish Corsair still carried replacement wrist rests, as the plastic doesn't age well.
Only Plouffe can make a 17min keyboard review interesting! Great stuff!
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With icue software you can set individual keys in individual game profiles so you can set each colour of your abilities if you want to.
Here's a tip.
Corsair keyboards with their Optic switches or like OPX (whatever the hell they call their own switch)
Isn't soldered on so it's basically hot swap switches.
Did it with my K100 switched them for Gateron Black Ink V2's.
Because I want a good feeling keyboard that's fullsized. But it's impossible to find anything above 75% that isn't stupid or above 400 dollars/makes me wait for 9 months minimum in the custom mechanical keyboard world.
So I took it into my own hands.
[ 5:04 ] that's definitely the Windows/ start-key lock button... lol
The tournament switch is so that you can use the keyboard in tournaments. Most tournaments don't let you use a macro enabled keyboard with on-board memory for obvious reasons. This switch just makes it so you can use the keyboard that you're used to. That's why there's a light as well, for refs to make sure a player doesn't switch tournament mode off during a match. Same reason why it has such an awkward switch.
That's how it works in theory anyways. Some tournaments won't let you use it anyways because they don't know what it is or how it works.
I kinda more want to know why Corsair haven't seemed to push their OPX switches onto more keyboard lines instead of keeping it as a K100 exclusive. Nice to see a detachable cable, shame a lot of brands are falling behind more custom board manufacturers for building. No hot-swappable key switches, for example, it's not exactly user serviceable. I've enjoyed my K90 Platinum, I want to keep using it but I would like to give other switches a try than the MX Browns I have it with.
Yea I have the k100 with the opx optical switches and I gotta say I like them better than the regular cherry ones
the bananas for scale killed me
The old version has a USB passthrough that I run my mouse through, but they got rid of is on this new version? That's a step in the wrong direction imo. I have 3 of the old K70s, browns, reds, and blues. Blue switches are my main go-to for gaming with browns being a close second. I absolutely love the media keys and volume roller.
It's usb c too so it's not like they couldn't have made it have pass through.
@@batt3ryac1d Yea I'd like even more than 1 passthrough. A nice keyboard should have like a 4 port hub built in to it.
skipped a lil of the vid BT THANK U BEYOND BROSKI BROSKI i truly APPRECIATE THIS
But did they ever fix the issue with the volume wheel command getting stuck and maxing or minimizing the volume?
If I had to assume, then probably not. Corsair, like most companies, don't actually seem to care about fixing the blinding issues in their hardware.
i have k70 tkl mx red and from membrane its such a diference
So it is normal Cherry MX keyboard from 5 years ago with detachable cable for $170. 2 years back I've got basically the same features from Fnatic for $90 including tax. Isn't onboard memory standard feature for a long time?
Thanks for the review. Have you ever reviewed the K65? for those of us that do not want a key pad. Thanks,
I like the media keys myself. Part of why I like the razer blackwidow elite. the only knob is volume which is just fine
I'm pretty sure tournament mode is for competition. Where they can minimize risk of people using macros to cheat or use the lighting as a sound map to give an advantage that others could possibly not have.
Actively choosing the less repairable option is always an automatic negative. There is no excuse.
To be fair in this case it is cheaper and less complex. It's not the same as a phone company gluing in everything cause f** you that's why. I do agree that it should be $10 more with hot swap tho
if you ever take apart one of these boards
do know that there is a screw under the right plastic thing beside the volume knob
Totally agree: Hot Swap would be fine.. Lets hope it comes in more Keyboards. An sleeved Cable and also detachable should be a Standard in my Opinion. Thanks for Review, but i will stay on my Varmilo, next will be Custom i think, we´ll see..
Just so you guys know your coiled cable can’t handle 8k that’s why they include a specific cable . Only that cable with handle / other 8k keyboard cables
I wonder if the footprint is close enough to fit in a Corsair Lapdog, I still have one with my old K70 in it.
I think that it would be way better just to spend a bit more for a keychron q2(prebuilt) or something if you dont want a completely custom keyboard