I'm sorry, I don't know how you can review this board and only mention Rapid Trigger in passing (less than 10 seconds). The ability to remove input _immediately_ when the finger is lifted is completely transformative for FPS games. It seems like LMG didn't know WHY people wanted them to review this board, it's not JUST another keyboard. It has completely unique features which were glossed over. Disappointing.
To be fair that’s how nearly every single one of these types of videos are from this company. I’m not sure there’s one single person working there that actually cares for and has a deep understanding and appreciation of enthusiast peripherals
I think you overlooked the usefulness of rapid trigger, for basically any rhythm game that uses keyboard tapping, being able to tap quicker then what your actuation point allows can save you from missing a note in so many situations and is a major bonus for this keyboard.
Very important in a game like CS:GO as well, where your movement needs to be very precise if you want to be a good player. The fact that they recommended the 60HE without even really touching on one of its main selling points speaks volumes about the keyboard and just makes me even more excited to recieve mine
The last time this person reviewed the Acer 390hz monitor, he forgot to use the backlight strobing feature. Again like @Jags said, Plouffe isn't the type of guy to know about the products features all that well lmfao
@@Accuaro Yeah i forgot which video or clip but he said anything above 120fps is a waste and i knew immediately this guy is not the right person to review enthusiast tech in general.
The most important aspect of the analog switch that is not talked about enough is not the granular input. It's actually the fact that the switch stops actuating IMMEDIATELY when you let go, no matter what height you are pressing at the time. That migth sound like a small thing, but in competitive games like Valorant where your aim immediatly resets to pinpoint accuracy when you are not moving this can actually make a big difference versus a traditional switch since you can stop your strafe faster than your oppopent and go for the headshot.
"Rapid trigger" - I have a Two HE and it's definitely the main reason I bought it. I have a steering wheel & joystick so I didn't really care about the "analog" function for games other than GTA, just cause 3/4 etc. Rapid trigger makes all the difference for FPS.
Sammy has some good taste. 👀 Good thing to mention, our ANSI 60HE's come with PBT keycaps pre-installed. Thanks for taking the time to look at the board, and we can't wait for the speed results from the lab. :D
@@Rockett. And there are little to none games where it is available. Most will just change to gamepad mode when using the analog key. and back when using a non analog key.
@@pedro4205this will work on any game without input lock. The game will just read the keyboard as a gamepad, then switch back once you move the mouse. Works flawlessly in single player and multi-player games
@@Rockett. What do you mean, standard pcb? The footprint of these is identical to all other MX-style switches. That means that the plate is exactly the same. You do need a different PCB, but that's because the sensing mechanism is different, not because they physically wouldn't fit into the keyboard.
I actually use the 60HE as my daily driver and let me tell you, its phenomenal. All the features and actuation settings make it a swiss army knife of keyboards. My specific 60HE is Lubed with Krytox 205 g0 as well as Lubed Durox Stabilizers. It's in a CNC'd silver alumnium Tofu60 case with extra dense foam & Tape mod. The cherry on top of it is white Cerakey Ceramic Keycaps. By far my favorite and most luxurious peripheral build I've ever done. 10/10 would recommend.
I ran a 60% board as my first mechanical keyboard... Got pretty sick of it with the limitations as it wasn't one of those that could be flashed with new bindings. Using the Wooting, I've been running the thing for close to 6 months now and I've rarely run into anything I couldn't rebind to suit my preferences. As much as I'd like to see a 65/75 board from wooting, the 60's been going surprisingly strong for me...
Love my Wooting 60HE for what it is. I would almost always pick another keyboard over it for the typing experience, but in game it def adds that much more skill level. Appreciate the mod-ability of it too. New case + new keycaps + lubing the switches (and filming if you can manage to get some that fit well enough) + tape mod (and sound deadening with something like kilmat helps a ton with ping from the switches) + burger mod will make this keyboard another level. I've currently got mine in a RNDKBD ADK64 3d printed case and the sound and feel is great.
Hey, I recently came across the HOTO Compressed Air Capsule and it seems like a great tool for keeping your desktop clean. It offers powerful vacuuming and blowing capabilities, making it perfect for maintaining a spotless environment. The price seems reasonable too compared to other brands. Might be worth checking out!
DrunkDeer has 75%, i have both and its acoustic is better than wooting, only thing its missing is rapid trigger and software is not as well implemented, but its like $120 which is a lot cheaper than apex pro that offer the same function.
Personally I need my numpad, arrows, and functions like page up/down, home/end easily accessible, not having to remember which letter key is the function to look at it, so 60% doesn’t do it for me either
@@Wanted54321 ahh, cool. Do they have a sample of the analog switches? I generally go tactile, something like Cherry Blue, but I’m interested in how the analog linear feels…
@@DoctorX17 im gonna be honest here wooting lekker switch sounds horrible, but thats cos of the simple design, i do not believe they have switch sample as they are literally dedicated to wooting pcb and will not work on other keyboards, if anything I would say close to gateron red but quieter. Tactile is not really an option for hall effect switch as that defeat the purpose of adjustable actuation.
That key push release being not requiring a full release is very similar to how a good trigger is in a nice handgun (please save the politics for yourself, I'm Canadian, I just really like putting holes in paper). They call it break or reset point, but basically after the first pull you only have to release the trigger a little tiny bit for reset. It's massive improvement over a full release type, for much quicker follow up shots. So I can see on certain games/situations this keyboard could provide a huge advantage!
The thumbnail... total cringe. But then I spent a bit and realized it was a short circuit video about a keyboard, so I thought I would give it a look. But honestly, I very nearly entirely ignored this one just because of the thumbnail...
Have the Wooting Full Sized for some months now and i just absolutley love it. preset for having it like normal keyboard. or high speed settings for fps or controller like for racing games. its just awesome. i only wish for like a wheel or smth for volume adjusting but i def recommend it :)
I've been playing on a wooting for months now. it's hands down the best keyboard i've ever used and does actually help atleast for fps games. (previous ranks: apex master, valorant immortal3, cs LEM/B+, OW diamond3)
i love analog keys, i have a huntsman v2 analog and its great for gaming, but the 104 layout has just gotten a bit big for my desk setup. i considered the wooting but i just can’t stand 60% keyboards. i use the f row and arrow keys a ton. i would absolutely buy a wooting 75he but 60% is just WAY too few keys for me.
I would like to see more reviews on full size keyboards. Those 80% or 50% keyboard are sadly nothing for me, but they have the best features overall. Is there any full size keyboard that can offer the same?
The Wooting two HE is a full size version of this (exactly the same apart from having more keys), They did a video on this a year or two ago so just earch LTT wooting two HE orsomething and you should find it.
I got the huntsman v2 dampened linears, filled it with silicone and foam. Lubed everything. Now it is silent as a membrane keyboard and smoother than any contact based switch I have ever tried. I recommend everybody to try contactless.
Been using 60HE for 5 months now and my opinion is that it is great! only down side was the delivery time since it took 3 months to get to me, but if you are willing to wait for the batches it is worth it
Didn't know it was a Dutch company. It's fun to hear other people having to wait for months for once, for a thing I could probably pick up per bike somewhere :D
I would immediately buy it - if it would be a 65HE. I will not short on arrow keys and the delete key. Page up/down is also quite useful very often, same with the relocation of "^".
This video didn’t really talk about the mod tap feature at all, which makes up for the missing keys. You can set the bottom right corner of keys to act as arrows when you tap them, and act as their “normal” keys when you hold them for any time longer than a millisecond. That’s how I use it and it works perfectly.
they made it 60% because 60% is standardized mostly so people can use their alu cases and stuff, 65% not rly and they don't have experience making stuff like that to make their own
@@pryex8565 I play a few games that need the arrow keys. There your setup doesn't work at all. Like I wrote earlier: I NEED separate arrow keys. No further discussion.
I got mine months ago. Probably the best priced product I've purchased in a long time. Makes any other custom keeb with out analog switches seem like a joke tbh
I hate that most keyboards in the enthusiast market are TKL. i use my numpad every day for work and personal use. Function keys i can lose, i usually map those to my mouse for the games that use them, but wish more of these enthusiast keyboards kept the numpad.
Guys. I wasn't saying that there weren't enthusiast keyboards that had numpads. I was just saying the focus is overwhelmingly TKL and I don't understand the appeal personally.
You can still buy the Wooting Two HE (The Wooting Two, but with the newer Lekker switches [these are the hall effect ones]) You should also be able to pick up an older used Flaretech board from a third party, possibly (no idea why you would want to, however).
Thanks for the replies. I'm currently using a red dragon mechanical keyboard but I would like a change. Or maybe change the keycaps on my current keyboard.
@@Steve30x A mild warning: be careful getting into keyboards. If you're not careful, and have the finances for it, it can end up costing several thousand dollars really quickly...
Thank you! I've been asking/ hinting at a video with an analogue keyboard for a while now. I'll probably use this as a replacement for my RommerG board.
The extra screws are for screwing in the PCB into 3rd party cases that offer additional mounting spots. The plate should never be changed since anything softer than the stock steel plate will mess with the precision of the adjustable activation distance. The review is also really out of touch when it comes to how the community actually uses this board; maybe 2 out of 100 users have ever used it to emulate a joystick. The reason for almost everybody getting this board is for the rapid trigger capability and the ability to choose your own activation points per-key, all the way up to 0.1 mm. Also, 1 ms response time is insane, and there is no faster keyboard on the market. Only using the analog switches to play Forza is the most boomer way possible of testing such an insane FPS board.
yeah i bought it for being able to set the actuation point of each switch between 0.1mm and 4.0mm needed it so i can trigger the mouse click and keyboard key at the same moment
"maybe 2 out of 100 users" have you not heard how much this thing messed up the trackmania community *because* of the analog function? like the thing is banned because the analog capability is actually that good for picking and choosing exactly how sensitive it is
been liking mine a lot but DONT SWAP OUT THE PLATE AS HE SAID. unless maybe for aluminum or something stiff as the accuracy of the hall effect is dependent on no flexing of the plate. i feel like its pretty worth with how much features u get out of it. mine is stock, just lubed it as all. this kb being my first lube job wasnt the easiest. the stems stick together and makes lubing a little more annoying than usual. my first time reeeallly noticing the rapid trigger in action is when playing deep rock galactic and when u get frozen u have to tap a and d quickly to get unfrozen. i think the first time i had exact perfect timing and got out in literally a second whereas usually it takes 2-3, maybe 4 if ur slow. i also found that making capslock my fn key the biggest tip. for quick f key actions i can do with 1 hand. so im barely missing the f row
Been using the full-size one for almost a year now and don’t think I’ll ever buy another keyboard, amazing switches. And full Linux support with the software, hell yeah!
I don't plan on buying one but i'm happy to hear that the Linux support is there! So many products just ignore that things besides Windows/MacOS exist and it (sometimes) makes my life a living hell :)
Just like someone else said. I’m glad I got mine months ago before all these extra orders come thru. The features shown here may not seem like a game changer. But I’ve tried to go back to a normal board with normal max switches and it’s impossible.
Keep in mind you can get a keyboard kinda like this with the Apex Pro TKL 2023 from SteelSeries. Same actuation range design and shit and if you’re like me and enjoy a TKL over 60 percent you’ll love it.
I know Tenz has a decked out 60he, that I would love to see more of. Zywoo uses one too but idk if his is a stock one. Wooting has a bunch of great tutorials on how to mod it though, so I might have to tear mine apart soon
Wooting wins hands down cos rapid trigger, apex pro is overpriced garbage now drunkdeer A75 exists and cost a fraction of apex pro with same functions.
@Wanted4096 I'm stuck between the drunk deer, apex pro 2023, and the 60he. The drunk deer is the best value because it easily sounds the best and is by far the cheapest. I'm coming from a tkl, so It's rough to go to a 60%, and the wooting is the worst sounding out of the three but has the best tech. The Steelseires is in the middle for sound, and the screen is cool, but I have a second monitor and a stream deck, so it has minimal value to me. Sorry if I just dumped all this info out. lol, I was just doing a lot of research on these, and it all just came out. But do you have any of these, and if so, what do you think?
It's about time you guys took a look at this keyboard. I'm typing this comment on one, and it is amazing. I haven't even scratched the surface of what it can do, and I've had it since last year.
I cannot believe how bad this review was, THE MAIN SELLING POINT IS THE RAPID TRIGGER, THAT'S THE GAME CHANGER. That is what separates this board from every other board, it is the GOAT for FPS because of it. I am surprised how bad the presenter messed this up. This is the worst video LTT put out with just terrible information portrayed. He did no research at all.
Eh? Rapid Trigger is a game changer? Even my mechanical keyboard can rapid trigger a button. Even my really old crappy Razer keyboard with membrane could do it
One thing i didnt quit understand is if you enable tachayon mode does is disable that you can set a actuaction points or what does it do because i dont really understand what they mean by ´´analog stability might me affected´´ and could you please tell me if ´´tachyon mode´´ is good for gaming .
No offense but I don't understand how you can skip over rapid trigger so fast(again) and then default to racing games(again) to test the boards features. Yes it's analog, yes it's better than a digital keyboard for racing but that's not why people are falling over eachother buying it: it's the rapid trigger feature in shooters/fighting games/rhythm games. I feel like these and other 'gaming' pheripherals reviews would be done more justice if someone that was more interested/knowledgeable about competitive gaming would take a look at them. I'm disappointed that this has been the second time a keyboard with rapid trigger has passed the revue on this channel and for the second the time the essense of why this board is so popular in competitive circles has been completely missed.
It seems like the reason why these popular products get chosen to be unboxed is not properly conveyed to the Short Circuit team. Clearly the script writer and host don't know why this keyboard is chosen for a spotlight. They just look at the marketing materials (which originally emphasized analog input for driving) and call it a day. The whole process behind Short Circuit is lazy and of a lower quality than the other LMG channels. Quite frustrating.
"buttonmashing is not a thing in games" he says... MMOs? MOBAs? To spam skills in ARPGs like D3,4 and PoE? Or he playing single player games with a mech keyboard? Thats fine too but man cmon
Do we get a 2 minute review of the instruction pamphlet in this unboxing too? Oh, we're going to call a QR code gatekeeping, then not even follow the link, then proceed to guess at everything? Must be a Plouffe review. Spent 4 minutes talking about the LEDs but doesn't bother to mention that the LEDs are not covered by the 4 year warranty. "I've never wanted a feature more" followed directly by "but I don't know if I'd ever use it" This is absolute fluff. What happened to that testing lab? Keyboard machine broke? These are the least informational videos LTT does. 12 minutes of nothing. Can we please start holding these keyboard videos to the same level of quality as the rest of LTT?
"I don't know what these screws are for. Probably part of the keyboard." genius...absolutely genius. And this whole time, I thought they might be for a toaster oven.
I bought this keyboard specifically for League. Being able to slightly press a key to aim an ability and full press to full send without the aiming part is legit for me.
I'd like to see them get a cheap mechanical board and show us all how to make it better with cheap mods. There are a lot of pretty good starting points out there these days that you can get for less than $40...and many of them are hot swappable, some have optical switches, which have fewer options, but are a tad bit faster for gaming. Just would be nice to see a big channel like this showing people how they can get into the hobby, or just get a decent mech board compared to the membrane ones a lot of people are still using, without having to spend $100+ (sorry, but with inflation, poverty, etc, that's just a lot of money for many of us...but we might be able to scrape together $50 for a starter board and some cheap modding supplies)
Looks like that keyboard's from my hometown, neat! I'd regonize that tower anywhere. Then again, the bottom part looks more like where some of my family is from, farther up north.
while analog switch sound awesome in theory, but almost all the games doesnt work, cos they only register keystrokes, ie when it activate, not actually binding the axis, some games allow you to bind axis instead of keystrokes, and only those game works, which is why im really skeptical about analog keyboard
It's the classic chicken and egg situation. Keyboards don't have it because games don't support it. And games don't have it, because keyboards don't have it. In the games where it works, it really works great - Overwatch 2 is a great example of full support.
@@amshermansen keyboards have it for almost 10 years at this point I think, Cherry themselves implemented it years ago in one of their gaming boards, game developers are just lazy
Mouse is about hand size and grip style more than the tech. Take a look at Razer mice they have good specs and shapes. If you're a fingertip check "Hsk pro 4k"
I ordered a Wooting Two HE after seeing it on LTT and it is such a dream. I'm not a keyboard enthusiast, but the quality and switches intrigued me. I'm so happy with the purchase and recommend it to everyone looking for a new kb.
he tries really hard to convince me that a keyboard that lacks absolutely everything but nice switches, is a good gaming keyboard. I guess if you do CSGO and need only WASD, shift and space it is perfectly fine. Because if you need anythign else, you can of COURSE just add additional hardware to your PC. That seems perfectly reasonable.
You guys basically missed one of the most important features in the review. The rapid trigger in competitive shooters is an insane advantage, especially for strafing.
Razor I believe also has a fully analog Huntsman keyboard I don't know if it's in the 60% category but I know they have a full size one would love to see a first look at that
Razer Deathstalker V2 Pro one of the best purchases iv ever made. Wireless no dumb wires with 0 latency, battery lasts around 3~4 weeks, full sized, optical switches like them as much as mechanical.
well im glad I got mine before they get slammed with LTT orders. The one thing missed here is that you can setup keys to behave like other keys on tap vs hold. So I have mine setup with the lower right cluster being tap for arrows and hold for crt, shift, etc and it totally got rid of any issue I had with needing something with dedicated arrow keys.
I'm sorry, I don't know how you can review this board and only mention Rapid Trigger in passing (less than 10 seconds). The ability to remove input _immediately_ when the finger is lifted is completely transformative for FPS games. It seems like LMG didn't know WHY people wanted them to review this board, it's not JUST another keyboard. It has completely unique features which were glossed over. Disappointing.
They did the same without mentioning rapid trigger at all in the wooting two he lol, but then again this is unboxing channel not review channel.
They're not the only reviewer to do this. The choice to play forza as the demo game instead of a shooter should say it all really.
Yeah, if he do only a simple rapid trigger test, like the "how fast you can shoot" test in CSGO for the gaming test, it would be amazing
score esports did much better from the mainstream media. I placed my order from watching their video.
To be fair that’s how nearly every single one of these types of videos are from this company. I’m not sure there’s one single person working there that actually cares for and has a deep understanding and appreciation of enthusiast peripherals
I think you overlooked the usefulness of rapid trigger, for basically any rhythm game that uses keyboard tapping, being able to tap quicker then what your actuation point allows can save you from missing a note in so many situations and is a major bonus for this keyboard.
These guys are not the right people to talk about this keyboard lets be honest 😂
Very important in a game like CS:GO as well, where your movement needs to be very precise if you want to be a good player. The fact that they recommended the 60HE without even really touching on one of its main selling points speaks volumes about the keyboard and just makes me even more excited to recieve mine
The last time this person reviewed the Acer 390hz monitor, he forgot to use the backlight strobing feature. Again like @Jags said, Plouffe isn't the type of guy to know about the products features all that well lmfao
@@jonasba2764yea I play tac fpses as well, it is definitely noticeable, I have one and it's night and day vs a normal custom mechanical keyboard
@@Accuaro Yeah i forgot which video or clip but he said anything above 120fps is a waste and i knew immediately this guy is not the right person to review enthusiast tech in general.
The most important aspect of the analog switch that is not talked about enough is not the granular input. It's actually the fact that the switch stops actuating IMMEDIATELY when you let go, no matter what height you are pressing at the time. That migth sound like a small thing, but in competitive games like Valorant where your aim immediatly resets to pinpoint accuracy when you are not moving this can actually make a big difference versus a traditional switch since you can stop your strafe faster than your oppopent and go for the headshot.
Well said
@@JokeswithMitochondria Got curious about ur username so cIicked on ur profiIe. Wasnt disappointed haha
@@JokeswithMitochondria funny username
yuh
"Rapid trigger" - I have a Two HE and it's definitely the main reason I bought it. I have a steering wheel & joystick so I didn't really care about the "analog" function for games other than GTA, just cause 3/4 etc. Rapid trigger makes all the difference for FPS.
Sammy has some good taste. 👀
Good thing to mention, our ANSI 60HE's come with PBT keycaps pre-installed.
Thanks for taking the time to look at the board, and we can't wait for the speed results from the lab. :D
I can't wait for a wooting mouse *hint hint*. The wootility is just such an excellent way to manage hardware with software.
Best keyboard for Apex Legends movement players.
@@Farengast *HINT HINT*
I’m surprised analog switches aren’t more commonly available, they sound like the perfect compromise between keyboards & sticks.
They don't fit in your standard keyboard PCB. They don't have the 2 pins the MX style switches have. I agree they do seem like a good switch though.
@@Rockett. And there are little to none games where it is available. Most will just change to gamepad mode when using the analog key. and back when using a non analog key.
drunkdeer has some
@@pedro4205this will work on any game without input lock. The game will just read the keyboard as a gamepad, then switch back once you move the mouse. Works flawlessly in single player and multi-player games
@@Rockett. What do you mean, standard pcb? The footprint of these is identical to all other MX-style switches. That means that the plate is exactly the same. You do need a different PCB, but that's because the sensing mechanism is different, not because they physically wouldn't fit into the keyboard.
I actually use the 60HE as my daily driver and let me tell you, its phenomenal. All the features and actuation settings make it a swiss army knife of keyboards. My specific 60HE is Lubed with Krytox 205 g0 as well as Lubed Durox Stabilizers. It's in a CNC'd silver alumnium Tofu60 case with extra dense foam & Tape mod. The cherry on top of it is white Cerakey Ceramic Keycaps. By far my favorite and most luxurious peripheral build I've ever done. 10/10 would recommend.
I ran a 60% board as my first mechanical keyboard... Got pretty sick of it with the limitations as it wasn't one of those that could be flashed with new bindings. Using the Wooting, I've been running the thing for close to 6 months now and I've rarely run into anything I couldn't rebind to suit my preferences. As much as I'd like to see a 65/75 board from wooting, the 60's been going surprisingly strong for me...
Same, mod tap really saves the day. It couldn’t use any other 60% but I can use this one so naturally.
75%/TKL is coming soon!
Great I was waiting for these to be back in stock and now I’ll never get one
75% is the king of keyboard layouts lol
@@Ranger.TomGunnaright second wooting comes out with 75% id buy it im sure many would
Y’all gotta do more 100% keyboards
You can always have two keyboards for example a Unicomp New Model M for typing and a Wooting Two HE for gaming and macros
glad to see larger channels covering this
Already got mine! I love it. At first the options are overwhelming. 60% is enough for me, especially with the layers you can define.
Where did u buy it, i bought on the wooting website a month ago and still haven’t got it yet
@@Hazel-jo3lh I waited around 2 months
Actually you shouldn't switch out the steel plate. The sensors will mess up if there's too much flex in the plate.
Love my Wooting 60HE for what it is. I would almost always pick another keyboard over it for the typing experience, but in game it def adds that much more skill level. Appreciate the mod-ability of it too. New case + new keycaps + lubing the switches (and filming if you can manage to get some that fit well enough) + tape mod (and sound deadening with something like kilmat helps a ton with ping from the switches) + burger mod will make this keyboard another level. I've currently got mine in a RNDKBD ADK64 3d printed case and the sound and feel is great.
Hey, I recently came across the HOTO Compressed Air Capsule and it seems like a great tool for keeping your desktop clean. It offers powerful vacuuming and blowing capabilities, making it perfect for maintaining a spotless environment. The price seems reasonable too compared to other brands. Might be worth checking out!
I've tried 60% keyboards and I'm not a fan. I don't mind the layers or lack of F keys, it's just too small. TKL is a better fit for me.
DrunkDeer has 75%, i have both and its acoustic is better than wooting, only thing its missing is rapid trigger and software is not as well implemented, but its like $120 which is a lot cheaper than apex pro that offer the same function.
Personally I need my numpad, arrows, and functions like page up/down, home/end easily accessible, not having to remember which letter key is the function to look at it, so 60% doesn’t do it for me either
@@DoctorX17 wooting two he are what you looking for, its the 100% version.
@@Wanted54321 ahh, cool. Do they have a sample of the analog switches? I generally go tactile, something like Cherry Blue, but I’m interested in how the analog linear feels…
@@DoctorX17 im gonna be honest here wooting lekker switch sounds horrible, but thats cos of the simple design, i do not believe they have switch sample as they are literally dedicated to wooting pcb and will not work on other keyboards, if anything I would say close to gateron red but quieter. Tactile is not really an option for hall effect switch as that defeat the purpose of adjustable actuation.
That key push release being not requiring a full release is very similar to how a good trigger is in a nice handgun (please save the politics for yourself, I'm Canadian, I just really like putting holes in paper). They call it break or reset point, but basically after the first pull you only have to release the trigger a little tiny bit for reset. It's massive improvement over a full release type, for much quicker follow up shots. So I can see on certain games/situations this keyboard could provide a huge advantage!
Plouffe's the keyboard dude.
Also Plouffe " Idk what this bracket does, or what these screws were for"🤣🤣
I think this is the keyboard that caused a bunch of controversy in the _Osu!_ community because of that rapid trigger thing.
It did, but the community ultimately decided it was fine.
The thumbnail... total cringe.
But then I spent a bit and realized it was a short circuit video about a keyboard, so I thought I would give it a look. But honestly, I very nearly entirely ignored this one just because of the thumbnail...
Have the Wooting Full Sized for some months now and i just absolutley love it. preset for having it like normal keyboard. or high speed settings for fps or controller like for racing games. its just awesome. i only wish for like a wheel or smth for volume adjusting but i def recommend it :)
i cant use this keyboard due to the goofy looking strap that they put on there
@@siggster2686you don’t have to put it on….
@@siggster2686the full sized one doesn't have a strap
@@siggster2686 Don't put the strap on... Or get a new case if you don't like the look of it?
I've been playing on a wooting for months now. it's hands down the best keyboard i've ever used and does actually help atleast for fps games. (previous ranks: apex master, valorant immortal3, cs LEM/B+, OW diamond3)
i love analog keys, i have a huntsman v2 analog and its great for gaming, but the 104 layout has just gotten a bit big for my desk setup. i considered the wooting but i just can’t stand 60% keyboards. i use the f row and arrow keys a ton. i would absolutely buy a wooting 75he but 60% is just WAY too few keys for me.
When short circuit gets something wrong or miss things that's everyone is pointing out, they like to not reply to comments at all.
I would like to see more reviews on full size keyboards. Those 80% or 50% keyboard are sadly nothing for me, but they have the best features overall. Is there any full size keyboard that can offer the same?
The Wooting two HE is a full size version of this (exactly the same apart from having more keys), They did a video on this a year or two ago so just earch LTT wooting two HE orsomething and you should find it.
@@Giraffe21_ Thank you, I'll look into that :D
I got the huntsman v2 dampened linears, filled it with silicone and foam. Lubed everything. Now it is silent as a membrane keyboard and smoother than any contact based switch I have ever tried.
I recommend everybody to try contactless.
that lil plastic cover thing can be used as a free dust cover lmao
I absolutely use my function row every time I use my computer, no idea how y'all survive without it
It is not actually gone. You just need to press Fn + Number and it has the same Function.
Been using 60HE for 5 months now and my opinion is that it is great! only down side was the delivery time since it took 3 months to get to me, but if you are willing to wait for the batches it is worth it
Didn't know it was a Dutch company. It's fun to hear other people having to wait for months for once, for a thing I could probably pick up per bike somewhere :D
Mine only took me 2 weeks bought one this year, USA batch
glad u made a new vid about this keyboard and actually showed what it can do this time :)
This thing looks so dope. They gotta make a 40% ortho/planck style for weirdos like me though.
That is you and they might now make because of that reason.
Split ortho with low profile analog switches when 😅
I like that they made a web app that you can enter from your browser to configure it without needing to install anything.
6:01 Yeah, I wonder what that weird circle clicking game is…
Great video. I still have my Wooting One from when that was new. Love it. It isn't going anywhere.
I would immediately buy it - if it would be a 65HE. I will not short on arrow keys and the delete key. Page up/down is also quite useful very often, same with the relocation of "^".
This video didn’t really talk about the mod tap feature at all, which makes up for the missing keys. You can set the bottom right corner of keys to act as arrows when you tap them, and act as their “normal” keys when you hold them for any time longer than a millisecond. That’s how I use it and it works perfectly.
@@pryex8565 That's how I have mine set up as well. I can't go without arrow keys and the tap feature works perfectly for them.
they made it 60% because 60% is standardized mostly so people can use their alu cases and stuff, 65% not rly and they don't have experience making stuff like that to make their own
@@komi1834 there are many many more standard mount cases for the 65% layout. Regardless that’s not even relevant to what I was talking about.
@@pryex8565 I play a few games that need the arrow keys. There your setup doesn't work at all. Like I wrote earlier: I NEED separate arrow keys. No further discussion.
when you give a non-gamer a gaming keyboard and ask him to review it:
A QR code directing you to a web adress isn't gatekeeping.
I got mine months ago. Probably the best priced product I've purchased in a long time. Makes any other custom keeb with out analog switches seem like a joke tbh
I hate that most keyboards in the enthusiast market are TKL. i use my numpad every day for work and personal use. Function keys i can lose, i usually map those to my mouse for the games that use them, but wish more of these enthusiast keyboards kept the numpad.
numpad version also availible with same price
96%/1800 keyboards are probably for you, then.
I use an external keypad, personally
Then buy a 96% keyboard
Guys. I wasn't saying that there weren't enthusiast keyboards that had numpads. I was just saying the focus is overwhelmingly TKL and I don't understand the appeal personally.
Definitely a different kind of video than im used to seeing from you, but I did really enjoy it. More along this vein would not go amiss.
Do they make full size keyboards? I don't like those 60% keyboards
Yes, the wooting 2 HE is a true 100%
You can still buy the Wooting Two HE (The Wooting Two, but with the newer Lekker switches [these are the hall effect ones]) You should also be able to pick up an older used Flaretech board from a third party, possibly (no idea why you would want to, however).
Thanks for the replies. I'm currently using a red dragon mechanical keyboard but I would like a change. Or maybe change the keycaps on my current keyboard.
@@cameronsmith3988 that is correct.
@@Steve30x A mild warning: be careful getting into keyboards. If you're not careful, and have the finances for it, it can end up costing several thousand dollars really quickly...
Thank you! I've been asking/ hinting at a video with an analogue keyboard for a while now. I'll probably use this as a replacement for my RommerG board.
Maybe it is a bad idea to type on a keyboard while updating its firmware?
Just a bit. Definitely didn't help the process. :)
I went with a corsair optical keyboard and man am i regretting it now
The extra screws are for screwing in the PCB into 3rd party cases that offer additional mounting spots. The plate should never be changed since anything softer than the stock steel plate will mess with the precision of the adjustable activation distance.
The review is also really out of touch when it comes to how the community actually uses this board; maybe 2 out of 100 users have ever used it to emulate a joystick. The reason for almost everybody getting this board is for the rapid trigger capability and the ability to choose your own activation points per-key, all the way up to 0.1 mm. Also, 1 ms response time is insane, and there is no faster keyboard on the market.
Only using the analog switches to play Forza is the most boomer way possible of testing such an insane FPS board.
yeah i bought it for being able to set the actuation point of each switch between 0.1mm and 4.0mm
needed it so i can trigger the mouse click and keyboard key at the same moment
"maybe 2 out of 100 users"
have you not heard how much this thing messed up the trackmania community *because* of the analog function? like the thing is banned because the analog capability is actually that good for picking and choosing exactly how sensitive it is
@@CheeseManFuu LMAO NICE
@@CheeseManFuu and the trackmania userbase is probably 2/100. Rapid Trigger is why all fps & rhythm game cracks want this keeb
seen people using it in gasket mounted cases with custom cut brass plates, overkill but it's #1 for gaming
been liking mine a lot but DONT SWAP OUT THE PLATE AS HE SAID. unless maybe for aluminum or something stiff as the accuracy of the hall effect is dependent on no flexing of the plate.
i feel like its pretty worth with how much features u get out of it. mine is stock, just lubed it as all. this kb being my first lube job wasnt the easiest. the stems stick together and makes lubing a little more annoying than usual. my first time reeeallly noticing the rapid trigger in action is when playing deep rock galactic and when u get frozen u have to tap a and d quickly to get unfrozen. i think the first time i had exact perfect timing and got out in literally a second whereas usually it takes 2-3, maybe 4 if ur slow. i also found that making capslock my fn key the biggest tip. for quick f key actions i can do with 1 hand. so im barely missing the f row
I can't do the 60% ones but that looks amazing. Analog on a keyboard is wild.
Wooting 2 HE is the same switches and features in a full size keyboard.
I've been waiting for this for SO LONG!
Been using the full-size one for almost a year now and don’t think I’ll ever buy another keyboard, amazing switches. And full Linux support with the software, hell yeah!
I don't plan on buying one but i'm happy to hear that the Linux support is there! So many products just ignore that things besides Windows/MacOS exist and it (sometimes) makes my life a living hell :)
Just like someone else said. I’m glad I got mine months ago before all these extra orders come thru.
The features shown here may not seem like a game changer. But I’ve tried to go back to a normal board with normal max switches and it’s impossible.
Keep in mind you can get a keyboard kinda like this with the Apex Pro TKL 2023 from SteelSeries. Same actuation range design and shit and if you’re like me and enjoy a TKL over 60 percent you’ll love it.
I know Tenz has a decked out 60he, that I would love to see more of. Zywoo uses one too but idk if his is a stock one. Wooting has a bunch of great tutorials on how to mod it though, so I might have to tear mine apart soon
yeah that decked out 60he really helped sentinels qualify for playoffs lmao 💀
@@hofkingpin3216 lol tenz spent more time swaping springs than clicking heads
you should also try the apex pro 2023 and do a comparison to see who has the better analog keyboard
Wooting is better because of the software and feature.
Wooting wins hands down cos rapid trigger, apex pro is overpriced garbage now drunkdeer A75 exists and cost a fraction of apex pro with same functions.
@@Wanted54321 steelseires is gonna relase thier version of rapid trigger in the next week or too according to what they said on stream
@@commando2782 so is drunk deer apparently, i asked their online customer service, they said it'd be implemented on next firmware update.
@Wanted4096 I'm stuck between the drunk deer, apex pro 2023, and the 60he. The drunk deer is the best value because it easily sounds the best and is by far the cheapest. I'm coming from a tkl, so It's rough to go to a 60%, and the wooting is the worst sounding out of the three but has the best tech. The Steelseires is in the middle for sound, and the screen is cool, but I have a second monitor and a stream deck, so it has minimal value to me. Sorry if I just dumped all this info out. lol, I was just doing a lot of research on these, and it all just came out. But do you have any of these, and if so, what do you think?
It comes with a full 100% set of keycaps. I switched out the lefthand alt and control-side for arrowkeys :D
It's about time you guys took a look at this keyboard. I'm typing this comment on one, and it is amazing. I haven't even scratched the surface of what it can do, and I've had it since last year.
The firmware in the 2HE video was working fine. You guys somehow just used the wrong wootility version
I cannot believe how bad this review was, THE MAIN SELLING POINT IS THE RAPID TRIGGER, THAT'S THE GAME CHANGER. That is what separates this board from every other board, it is the GOAT for FPS because of it. I am surprised how bad the presenter messed this up. This is the worst video LTT put out with just terrible information portrayed. He did no research at all.
100% agree
He talks about rapid trigger but does not try it himself
Eh? Rapid Trigger is a game changer? Even my mechanical keyboard can rapid trigger a button. Even my really old crappy Razer keyboard with membrane could do it
@@touma-san91 In other words you don't know what Rapid Trigger refers to.
@@touma-san91 POV: you don't know what Rapid Trigger is.
One thing i didnt quit understand is if you enable tachayon mode does is disable that you can set a actuaction points or what does it do because i dont really understand what they mean by ´´analog stability might me affected´´ and could you please tell me if ´´tachyon mode´´ is good for gaming .
sorry for some mistakes in the message i am actually not english
Finally.
Recommending inferior products for the last year while this thing was available.
0:40 the first thing that came into my mind was to get the key cap puller and pull out one of the ctrl caps :D
"gate things with phones" on a 100$+ keyboard....
I do hope some would get a basic smartphone before an expensive keyboard
Plouffe! I don't think you can use the v2 tofu65 on that board, the USB port is in the middle no?
NO OSU TEST?????
Had mine a couple of months now. Poseidon 60 case, cerakey keycaps. The thing is a thock monster and I’m never giving it up.
No offense but I don't understand how you can skip over rapid trigger so fast(again) and then default to racing games(again) to test the boards features. Yes it's analog, yes it's better than a digital keyboard for racing but that's not why people are falling over eachother buying it: it's the rapid trigger feature in shooters/fighting games/rhythm games.
I feel like these and other 'gaming' pheripherals reviews would be done more justice if someone that was more interested/knowledgeable about competitive gaming would take a look at them.
I'm disappointed that this has been the second time a keyboard with rapid trigger has passed the revue on this channel and for the second the time the essense of why this board is so popular in competitive circles has been completely missed.
It seems like the reason why these popular products get chosen to be unboxed is not properly conveyed to the Short Circuit team. Clearly the script writer and host don't know why this keyboard is chosen for a spotlight. They just look at the marketing materials (which originally emphasized analog input for driving) and call it a day. The whole process behind Short Circuit is lazy and of a lower quality than the other LMG channels. Quite frustrating.
@@Joe-ls5mn Agreed. Something is going wrong somewhere in their production/script writing pipeline. I just expected better from LTT. Shame really.
I could never not look at this guy and think of that dedicated keyboard assembling station he has. Like a my first Chinese factory job set.
"buttonmashing is not a thing in games" he says...
MMOs? MOBAs? To spam skills in ARPGs like D3,4 and PoE?
Or he playing single player games with a mech keyboard? Thats fine too but man cmon
Even lot of the anime fighting games still have button mashing QTE's.
@@touma-san91 Yes but those are mostly made for controllers, no? Still one more example. Also the fact that you can play older games...
@@Sonyboj Keyboards work on those games though so shouldn't be excluded even if they are better with controllers
The keycaps are not ABS if you didn't know. They're actually Double Shot PBT.
wait did the jelly lighting make the keys light away from itself based on press depth?
Do we get a 2 minute review of the instruction pamphlet in this unboxing too?
Oh, we're going to call a QR code gatekeeping, then not even follow the link, then proceed to guess at everything? Must be a Plouffe review.
Spent 4 minutes talking about the LEDs but doesn't bother to mention that the LEDs are not covered by the 4 year warranty.
"I've never wanted a feature more" followed directly by "but I don't know if I'd ever use it"
This is absolute fluff.
What happened to that testing lab? Keyboard machine broke?
These are the least informational videos LTT does. 12 minutes of nothing.
Can we please start holding these keyboard videos to the same level of quality as the rest of LTT?
Did I spot 5 led spacebar? consider me sold
And hall effect switches, got me moist too.
"I don't know what these screws are for. Probably part of the keyboard." genius...absolutely genius. And this whole time, I thought they might be for a toaster oven.
I bought this keyboard specifically for League. Being able to slightly press a key to aim an ability and full press to full send without the aiming part is legit for me.
I already have one 😎
Got mine a few months ago and I love it.
I'd like to see them get a cheap mechanical board and show us all how to make it better with cheap mods. There are a lot of pretty good starting points out there these days that you can get for less than $40...and many of them are hot swappable, some have optical switches, which have fewer options, but are a tad bit faster for gaming. Just would be nice to see a big channel like this showing people how they can get into the hobby, or just get a decent mech board compared to the membrane ones a lot of people are still using, without having to spend $100+ (sorry, but with inflation, poverty, etc, that's just a lot of money for many of us...but we might be able to scrape together $50 for a starter board and some cheap modding supplies)
Looks like that keyboard's from my hometown, neat! I'd regonize that tower anywhere. Then again, the bottom part looks more like where some of my family is from, farther up north.
while analog switch sound awesome in theory, but almost all the games doesnt work, cos they only register keystrokes, ie when it activate, not actually binding the axis, some games allow you to bind axis instead of keystrokes, and only those game works, which is why im really skeptical about analog keyboard
It's the classic chicken and egg situation. Keyboards don't have it because games don't support it. And games don't have it, because keyboards don't have it.
In the games where it works, it really works great - Overwatch 2 is a great example of full support.
Rapid trigger is extremely good for rhythm games like osu
Thanks for that piece of info.
@@amshermansen keyboards have it for almost 10 years at this point I think, Cherry themselves implemented it years ago in one of their gaming boards, game developers are just lazy
Keyboards most certainly have not had analog input APIs or hardware.
1:23 i never noticed the hello guy at the back
6:14 collective sigh from osu players. xD
Waiting for the TKL version :D
Now I'm curious what mouse would be great to pair with this? Is there an equivalent version of Wooting but for mice?
Mouse is about hand size and grip style more than the tech. Take a look at Razer mice they have good specs and shapes. If you're a fingertip check "Hsk pro 4k"
60% keyboards are as useless as itx motherboards and cases. Such a hindrance.
I ordered a Wooting Two HE after seeing it on LTT and it is such a dream. I'm not a keyboard enthusiast, but the quality and switches intrigued me. I'm so happy with the purchase and recommend it to everyone looking for a new kb.
i cant use this keyboard due to the goofy looking strap that they put on there
@@siggster2686 Strap is optional, isn't even attached out of the box
the osu keyboard
Death, taxes and Plouffe swearing he types faster than 105WPM in every short circuit keyboard video
he tries really hard to convince me that a keyboard that lacks absolutely everything but nice switches, is a good gaming keyboard. I guess if you do CSGO and need only WASD, shift and space it is perfectly fine.
Because if you need anythign else, you can of COURSE just add additional hardware to your PC. That seems perfectly reasonable.
Lost me at no F keys.
You just hit function and the corresponding number key. It's not hard
@@EtherealDoomed 80% is better
Tried 60 and just can't do it, but would grab a TKL version of this in a heartbeat.
Any osu! players around? Lol
W keyboard company amirite. also its about time you reviewed the 60HE.
Perfect candidate to put in new Poseidon PSD60 Macaron case from KPrepublic
You guys basically missed one of the most important features in the review. The rapid trigger in competitive shooters is an insane advantage, especially for strafing.
Razor I believe also has a fully analog Huntsman keyboard I don't know if it's in the 60% category but I know they have a full size one would love to see a first look at that
You always talk about not needing a numpad with the smaller keyboards but what about all of the great useful keys like delete and page up/page down?
The Wooting logo actually reminds me a lot of Magura's logo, a fairly popular MTB brake brand
OOOH!
That pronunciation of "lekker" is just sublime, magnificent
your firmware wasn't working very well last time because you were trying to use the older firmware software for their old optical analog boards
Already ordered but is waiting for wooting to restock them. Hope I get them before June.
Razer Deathstalker V2 Pro one of the best purchases iv ever made. Wireless no dumb wires with 0 latency, battery lasts around 3~4 weeks, full sized, optical switches like them as much as mechanical.
lets gooooo i was just asking for a video about that keyboard thanks
well im glad I got mine before they get slammed with LTT orders. The one thing missed here is that you can setup keys to behave like other keys on tap vs hold. So I have mine setup with the lower right cluster being tap for arrows and hold for crt, shift, etc and it totally got rid of any issue I had with needing something with dedicated arrow keys.
He didn't cover the most important thing (rapid trigger imo) so I'm not expecting THAT many orders.