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Sadhguru on Jiddu Krishnamurti & His Life - Shemaroo Spiritual Life
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- Sadhguru on Jiddu Krishnamurti & His Life - Shemaroo Spiritual Life
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Yogi, mystic and visionary, Sadhguru is a spiritual master with a difference. An arresting blend of profundity and pragmatism, his life and work serves as a reminder that yoga is a contemporary science, vitally relevant to our times.
1) JK used intellect / logic to break things down and convey.
However he continuously asked us to not get caught in the thinking process. He emphasised Observation/ 💯 attention ( outwardly and inwardly).
2) His videos carry his fragrance even now.
There are thousands of us who are learning… it’s not just “books”.
I’ve seen many comments of people saying how it’s been life changing.
So much for now! 🙏🙂
truly life changing!
Never found anyone like J.Krishnamurti🙏 Filled with abundance of gratitude to J.K
He was a copy, they're many just like him.
@@beinghuman3225 what?
@@shryfee7030 a repeat, nothing new, nothing of his own.
@@beinghuman3225 Who said there had to be anything new??? If people like him are all saying the same thing, maybe that's the whole point???
@@shryfee7030 maybe reread the original comment, to which I reacted.
J Krishnamurthy is mostly honest teacher in 20th century..!
Alan Watts is great too. He understood K and teaches about eastern philosophies.
he is no teacher. i feel there are no teachers just humans who help each other~
Sadhguru is the boss of an organization ... All organizations are wrong . Words from Jiddu Krishnamurti .
Finally someone who can see how this charltan is appropriting Krishna ji work and life.
Krishnamurti have his own organization too
Yes because a leader or ghuru will lead his followers to his own thinking of what is life, right etc, JK otherwise want us to think for ourselves and be our own teacher and this is very difficult some people r to lady to think for themselves and always want to find others to lead them
j.k. s speeches had to be organized as well, but there was no believe system or any other trash
The one who has been following jk lecture with dr Anderson, dr BOHM , if u have reached till the last lecture in continuity thiese lectures u won't dare call sadguru a charlatan
I don’t understand his criticism on Krishnamurti, in my opinion it doesn’t make sense. He was probably the highest developed Spiritual teacher of the 20th century and I am blessed that I was at his lectures.
He wasn’t playing a intellectual game and his words are still flowering also after his death, just like the words of the Buddha , Laotzu and every other Saint.
He is discussing people instead of just ideas. People are always limited within their perspectives, own experiences and words, and theories which are not the real thing and often contradicting, so there isn't much to talk about when we start to personalize cause we just get lost again as we're only projecting an image of ourselves into others. That's the endpoint.
For me, and this may be also a personalization, Jiddu Krishnamurti has been the only person that I've seen that was able to convey it into words the best the true art of observation the best without any dogmas that a lot of psychologists, scientists, religious leaders and gurus have. This is not to speak of the most basic assumptions such as reincarnation, separate souls, God or internal and external reality.
I don't know if I would say that he wasn't still playing a kind of intelectual game as you said though. After all he was still a man.
he was no teacher he is a friend.
When Leadbeater saw K playing on the beach with his younger brother, he felt something which couldn't be put into thought. Thanks Leadbeater...
Jiddu Krishnamurti’s words transform oneself we pay full attention without our own perception. I experienced it. JK is selfless (he even addresses himself ‘the speaker not I) his teachings bring wisdom in mankind..
You must be one of those 10000 who can drive on one wheel, sadhguru is talking about us other million idiots.
Very true sir
@@lobsangtsetan534 Just going within consistently, letting go of everything, does everything.
Narcissistic malfunction. A congenital disability to appreciate greatness in others.
He cannot acknowledge Krishnamurti because K called out the fraud that gurus like Sadhguru and Osho are.
The ego unmasks itself. Confusion never brings humility. Only clarity brings humility.
-Be aware. Be Consciousness. The speaker.
Why add music on a speech of such a great person. It is distracting. Music alters our perception and we may not get what exactly is he implying.
agree
U are a fool , these videos are produced by himself.
Impossible.
a great person ?? you must be stupid, never travelled much and therefore easily impressed.
He is a a spiritual hustler..killed his wife. How you dont see the dark every and arrogance of speaking..
compare him to any good teacher and you see diffrence..He studied hard for this deception, so im not saying he does not study and know things, but he did it to USE IT !! This is fake teacher signs all over.
He is the kind of teacher who says..dont listen to others..only listen to me..I am the best.. I know the truth..
pure arrogance. immitation game and modi`s and WEF friend. Very dangerous.
I studied psychololg and spiritual mtter for decades, and know hypbnosis language and how people use manipulation tecnics. This is that kind of teacher who use those things to APPEAR enlightened and saintly.
Pure ripoff from real teachers, and he is in so deep he properly swollowed his own belief in himself,
and therefore is a big narcissist associating with other "GREAT" people who have same illusion
like gates, soros, harari or schab. Do your homework.
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Very interesting words I really needed to hear this...
As a person who feels they have moved past the teaching and into the observation level this was nice to hear...
Maybe my ego but I agree it takes a certain level to understand what JK was saying
I can't believe Sadhguru said this!! he has just admitted that he does not understand Krishnamurti's "philosophy" and does not know much about his life. Krishnamurti does not have a great intellect - some of his teachers considered him even dull. He is simply an enlightened man who has rejected all contitioning, thanks to which he sees things as they are - he sees the truth. Apparently Sadhguru doesn't.....
JK also sold his books and lived his entire life supported by his friends, Founded Krishnamurti foundation etc. People saw his as a Guru Even though he opposed it but everything happened around his same way . J. k was unique in his method and sharp intellect. Sadguru is great as well if you look deep they both teaching or saying the same thing but in different ways . Both are amazing as long as they add any value to your life . Comparison is not fare and useless. 🙏
Jk never wrote any book. Only he collected money from his lecture. And it was a very small amount.
Sorry but sadguru is not even near to jk.
And i am not comparing. It is so.
@@Sanjay14728 Krishnamurti 's notebook, Freedom from known etc. You are misinformed . Sadguru and Krishnamurti are same not close or far . Question is where you and I are ?
freedom from the known ,i have read ,KRISHNAMURTHI NEVER WROTE BOOK.@@passionbonsai88
true but i still would not call them teachers or guru or gugus i call them friends.
Only thing common in Jiddu and Sadhguru is their mother tongue - Telugu. Rest all is different. Jiddu's thoughts are very profound, specific and intricate. Sadhguru is every where- like he has complete knowledge in all aspects of life.
Sadguru from Karnataka
BOTH R great BEINGS but i feel SADHGURU is more DYNAMIC than j krishnamurthi
He's wrong. I knew K well and spent a lot of time in his presence. He affected many people. Many understood him, and if only partial that still operated in their lives. It's absurd that Sadguru thinks he knows that no one understood JK.
It appears Sadhguru didn't understand him and therefore assumed that nobody did......
I understand Krishnamurti and I know many people do. Most people don't want to because there is no pleasure, no inspiration, no romanticism in what he says. Just simple truth. Thank you for your comment!
You must be one of those so called "intellectuals " lol
02:09 Jiddu Krishnamurti's early life and influence on others.
04:18 Explorers of mysticism embarked on adventurous journeys to seek enlightenment.
06:27 Jiddu Krishnamurthy's impact on the Theosophy movement and his physical body project
08:36 Jiddu Krishnamurti's rejection of being proclaimed as the world teacher
10:45 Reading J. Krishnamurti, Kierkegaard, and Dostoevsky indicates intelligence in Indian intelligentsia
12:54 J. Krishnamurti's unique approach to spirituality and intellect
15:03 J. Krishnamurti portrayed as not loving outwardly but compassionate inwardly
17:09 Impact of Jiddu Krishnamurti on Sadhguru
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looks like Sadhguru didn't get it either
JK is a hard liner .. JK would have roasted Sadhguru if they were contemporaries
12:55 - "he definitely doesn't look loving" - oh please... I see nothing but love in that man. I see chicanery in you Jakki. Please start speaking truths.
Hi, I adore KJ and Sadguru for whatever they are and I perceived that sentence another way. I think he referred to the videos he was watching. From a video point of view, he has an arrogant look to KJ for those who don't know him well and don't know that with his passion he means all the compassion man can have. But those of us who cannot yet see him for what he is his appearance can for sure be misunderstood. I hope this view of mine was of help to you. As for Sadhguru, I think he is just another human being sees everything from his point of view which can be also respected. It would be of course nicer if we and especially the spiritual speakers all had a completely unbiased way of expression of what they say. In this Krishnamurti's non-methodological approach is a method that we must have. :D
All the best to you, dear @Vil9386.
In my opinion the aim of spirituality is the complete disolution of ego.one who did it will never tell anybody that he is a guru and offer enlightment and setup a holy business.all spiritual gurus are con men.fooling themselves and others
I Admire JK. He went the farthest in explaining how you could attain enlightenment, without following any religion or doctrine. 🤔
I love K, he makes us think for ourselves. Nisargadatta's "I Am That" is amazing in other ways. He tells us what to do more than K, but keeps it very simple.
@@shaundisch2020Nisargadatta Maharaj ji called JK as "Truly realized brahman"
He was wise enough to not make cult or followers , also he said most honestly what being good human means and how to be that by doing yourself. Far better than anyone even Buddha or Jesus
krishnamurtis' followers did just that-----
@@fanny5105 maybe they did but trick is that even if you follow it leads to uncharted territory without instructions. K was very careful to keep it in self contemplating zone rather than " he said who said "
He opened schools to condition people with illusions, I'd say that's a cult.
I will share my feelings; perhaps some can relate. I’ve watched many of JK’s lectures and QnA’s. I was immediately moved by this wonderful man who called me to such an intense examination of truth. I can still listen to him for hours and just enjoy his unmistakable presence. However, when I try to grasp his teachings, I end up more confused and frustrated. Not because he is wrong, and not because he doesn’t speak truth. Simply because my intellect is not up to the task. Please do not interpret this as insulting to JK in any way whatsoever. His teachings are magnificent! If you can grasp them, then you absolutely should!
What an anazing person and "ponter". Krishna,urti's teaching is just so pointy!
Thank you for these words of thought. How can one find the full version of this talk? Thank you!
In my honest and humble opinion, Mr. Jaggi Vasudev is NOT qualified to comment on JK. It was really painful to listen to Mr. Jaggi who compares JK as a flower which has fragrance and the fragrance gone after his demise. How cruel is this? The very distinctive quality of JK is his borderless/ process-less approach to seek the truth. Multiple attempts by Mr. Jaggi to undermine andd understate JK's work is very evident and clearly out of place. JK is NOT a corporate guruji and definitely not needed endorsement from ANYBODY.
Completely agree with you...
He can't talk beyond his intelligence and thoughts. And which is always limited... He can never understand a limitless(JK) in limited thoughts.
Couldn't agree with you more.
Actually, he's mistaken. Krishnamurti's way was NOT the "way of the intellect" - because the intellect is partial, limited, fragmented. It's fit to analyze - yet Krishnamurti often made the point that "analysis is paralysis". Krishnamurti made the subtle distinction between "intellect" and "intelligence". The latter is holistic, panoramic, attentive, sees the false as false, true as true; the former is analytical, divisive, fragmented, concentrates, thinks it sees the false as false, true as true. Intelligence has no center; intellect does. Do you see the difference? Krishnamurti's was the way of intelligence. Also, Krishnamurti did occasionally introduce anecdotes, though rarely. Sadhguru is correct that Krishnamurti had no method, and it's true, his style was somewhat dry, though powerful.
Yet Krishnamurti's way had its limitations. He pointed out that examining oneself, truly listening, truly being attentive just might lead to transformation. They seemed to be the prerequisites of transformation. In other words, Krishnamurti overestimated the power of rationality (in my view). In other words, he failed to see that human beings (for the most part) will not be transformed through the exercise of rationality because they're not fundamentally rational, though they do have a rational capacity. One could make the case that powerful unconscious forces actually use rationality in all sorts of subtle ways, as a puppet master uses a puppet. It's not that rationality can really influence those forces; those forces use rationality to present themselves in a certain light which is palatable or respectable. (By the way, I'm NOT suggesting those forces are ALL negative.) Transformation may be possible, but rationality alone is not strong enough to make it happen. Whatever may have been Krishnamurti's intentions, he only reached the head of people, not their hearts. Perhaps his approach was too rarefied: he spoke from the mountaintop, so to speak, and thought that the language of the mountaintop was also suitable for the language of people far below. Rationality may work with a few people; it may influence and move a few. But not most. Truth alone isn't enough; an insightful person needs to know what is appropriate to individuals, because individuals are at different stages and require different approaches. So Sadhguru is right in a way.
Intellect is knowledge/conditioning. And that's all he was.
Krishnamurti is such a beautiful teacher. He is NOT intelectual.
JK and buddha almost same.... Even chanting mantra is our weakness... Instead we dive in fear to know the fear.
But sadhguru isha mainly based on inner ingineering.. What JK teaching also on inner engineering.
If you follow JK method it will affect sadhguru isha centre business.
😂 sahi kaha. Isliye jk k bare mai galat bol raha hai
Alguien puede poner subtítulos en español a este video?
Chikla Makala poo
JK is one of the greatest master only for the greatest minds!
you havent understand it..
@@uelideschwert8914 i am not even trying to 🙏🏽
@@BvekKshatriyawhy Sir?
@@uelideschwert8914 the point is to live at the moment and not try to understand life.
@@BvekKshatriya true, but why you think is only for the greatest mind i feel we share conciousness and so its for everyone, isnt it?
I cannot see where Sadhguru has offended the legacy of the great J Krishnamurti, we are too quick to use our emotion and then comment. If you listen he greatly admires the man and this is a tribute to his greatness.
He does, yet at the end he says, I paraphrase: "What has he left behind? Nothing, but couple of books." A very subtle way of minimizing the tremendous work JK has left behind.
The way Jaggi is judging jk without reading and watching jk fully ..
Sadguru defaming Krishnamurti bcz murti was against guru paratha ,looters he challenged this बाबा प्रथा ।sadguru is scared 😁
Exactly . But If we know what JK said , nobody will follow his cult
@@MHSUPER30 true
Thank you for this video , but why put music? It is so hard to concentrate and hear , specialy for elder people , please don t do it , just Sadhguru’s voice is pleasant enough 🙏🏻🥰
Krishnamurti❤️
I thought JK's method was of negation as said in Upanishads - Neti, Neti - neither this not that - and whats left is meditation.
But Jnana yoga method as Sadhguru says about JK also makes absolute sense. I know JK himself would abstain from giving - what he said - a name or a method
Ask Jaggi, how he uses the principle 'The observer is the observed' in his daily life.
Dissecting JK on his physical life is not going to lead him anywhere. Futile talk at the least.
With all due respect Brother , you watch a few videos of K for couple of weeks and you believe you can speak with any authority on the man or his teachings?
U liar....money was calling you not life.....krishnamurti has clearly said in his book about his process of awakening....One liar trying to protect another liar....
Sadhguru ko Krishnamurti samajh nahin aaya. Uska intelligence ya spirituality utna hi hai. Zyada nahin hai. He is in fact a very average or perhaps even below average human being. Aapke saamne Krishnamurti aaye aur aapki aankhein nahin khuleen toh aap kya hain dear spiritual “seeker”?
Jk was the first person who woke me up and turn my life upside down. The second one is Rumi.
The tables behind him look interesting in structure. I wonder what they mean.
Plz don't coment on jk it is of no use
If u want list to his speech s on you tube
Or leave it
Why u telling all nonsense
8:32 Kierkegaard and Dostoyevski? Didn't expect that!
J Krishnamurti 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Others are explorers of mysticism and you are self proclaimed Mystic....hmmm🤔.....interesting, don’t try to reduce J. Krishnamurti’s wisdom and divinity to mere act of intellect to promote your personal brand and business.
Well said. He has to put down JK’ s wisdom to to make people to depend on his type of practice- brand dependency and following.
If he believes that JK only came from the intellect... You have to be high..😅 JK was connected to a higher Intelligence beyond the intellect . That would be an insult for him. JK isn't hard to understand, I feel he is one of the easiest people to understand. He doesn't complicate things.. he was very loving and funny if u see in other settings . The reason he seems so serious is because he really fucking cared about humans ! He wanted to wake them up so the sorrow could decrease and end.
He isn't putting JK down.
Sadhguru's simply saying that through the absence of any method if not the intellect only one can hardly realize any Truth.
Both are in my opinion Enlightened beings anyway. Blessings.
This man got it .
All spiritual men are con men.
Stupid damn background music so damn loud cant hear what the great man saying...
BOTH JIDDU AND JAGGI ARE THE PRIDE OF TELUGU PEOPLE.
You got No Understanding of any of those .. They were not Telgu or Hindu or Anything which has an end ...
One was a gem, other seems be a fake
J.K.NEVER SPOKEN TELUGU.
HE NEVER GIVEN IMPORTANCE TO ANY LANGUAGE
ENGLISH IS AN VEHICLE OF VOMMUNICATION. THAT IS ALL.
CONTENT IS IMPORTANT.
THIS SAT GURU IS HALF BOILED BUSINESS.MAN.
@@thanislausm4288 OK JACK TELL IT TO YOUR GOD AND DO SOMETHIN ABOUT IT.
Why do you repost other channel video
Yes it stinks
They thought it was Jiddu Krishnamurti, but it was in reality the danish mystic Martinus
A thought which Compares "JK's way" and Sadhguru's Remarks" is a useless Thought ..
Be aware of it before writing Comment .. 😁
Don't be an Observer while watching this Video ..🙏
9:40 coz ur business will not run. Not saying good or bad a cult or business nevertheless.
Why talk about JK? It looks like the speaker has not understood JK, like many of us are. If JK had been alive, it would have been wonderful to have a debate between JK and speaker who is talking about JK.
Do a Osho talk, to me Osho was it. osho had the message, the true one
Quiero este video en Castellano
Sadhguru is not in that thousand.
I didn't get any sence out of this talks...
no one really gets what he said because it's so simple and our mind with modern intellect will just argue according to our convenience...
Lose the music!! Why do people do this 😕
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Sadguru has not understood JK well.
Merely attributing JK talks are good only intellectuals is totally wrong.
He repeatedly talked of insight and reason and love must go together.
JK stated organised religions are frozen thought of mankind.
Followers destroy leaders and leaders destroy followers he stated often is 100 % true. So gurus..........
𝗝 𝗞𝗿𝗶𝘀𝗵𝗻𝗮𝗺𝘂𝗿𝘁𝗵𝘆❤❤❤😊
Limiting jk murti to just intellect is criminal
You like so many came later, after, don't think you can speak for him , if you speak of him and not yourself you missed the point but it seems you live a good life anyway
JK warned the Gurus like to be careful of Gurus who tells I know the truth and I will teach you and make money
please share this video is Hindi language please
NOPE
Krishnamurti was given a thankless task.
Interesting story....we also admired a lot Mr Gandhi and now nobody talks about himor even mention his name : I know it has to do with the History of India and the religious problems but could we have a fair talk about this Great WorldFigure ?
mr Gandhi ruined india, he goes against our bhagwat gita, when british looted us n trashed us for so many years, Gandhi preached non violence, our God tells us to fight against injustice..
Gandhi is and will always be a controversial man.
an ant speak about an elephant.
Mr blind saadhu ...pls don't impose wrong definition on us.... The correct meaning of intellect is one who can complete the incomplete statement.... More logically....
Who are you to give the certificate on right and wrong may I know ? It's just your belief that is different
Why does he look like Krishna so much
He is the spoon of modi
He and modi needs each others
😂😂😂
J.K. TALKED FROM INNER SILENCE.
OUR SAT GURU IS TALKING FROM THE FISH MARKET OF NOISE.
GURU I BET HE NEVER STUDIED A BOOK BY J.K.
HE TALKS ABOUT HISTORY OF THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY.
GURU HAS SHALLOW KNOWLWDGE ABOUT J.K.
I PITY HIS POOR AND BLIND FOLLIWERS.
why this stupid music in the background???
He was just another wisdom being who lived useful life ....like Osho...nothing else.
People say tht he is Meteriya Buddha...but people should know tht it's not a time for Meteriya Buddha to come coz Buddha shakyamuni period is still going on ....Buddha's teaching still exist n there are many Buddha follower who still follow his teaching n get Enlightent.
No way of him being Maitreya Buddha at all, doesn't matter how powerful or super being he was...coz it says tht,...
In the future, because of the growth of delusion, the beings in this world will degenerate - their lifespan will decrease and their lives will be filled with much suffering. When human life expectancy has decreased to only ten years, Maitreya will manifest in the form of a great spiritual leader and demonstrate the path of virtue. In particular, he will spread the teachings on loving kindness and, as a result, the fortune of the humans in this world will begin to improve - they will gradually give up their deluded attitudes and harmful behavior and their lifespan will start to increase. After many eons it will have grown enormously and people will live for 80,000 years. Then their lifespan will slowly decrease again until it reaches about one hundred. According to the prophesies of all the buddhas and his own promise, this is when Maitreya Buddha will appear in the world as a universal teacher, or founding buddha, like Shakyamuni.
This is all nonsense.
Nothing to be said or done.
Humans interfering is the whole problem.
Wooooow!! What did you take before you wrote it?? I want it too😂😂😂😂😂
Sadguru is master of words . Meaning less.You talking about jk.what is your talk about ramanar,
Can somebody here who is well aware explain to me if Master Ekkirala Krishnamacharya was the replacement to JK at Theosophical Society for the role of World Teacher?
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krishnamurti name of truth you cany explain him you are too far from him
Unfortunately he is clsing all false shops
U are that idoot ..look ur deciples callls u shiva and adiguru ...uselsss u are