thanks for taking the time to make the comparison chap, ive been testing them in my hw100 and am very happy with grouping and as others say they do seem to hit with a whack
If your gun is working correctly, there are only about 3 reasons why this pellet, (and the normal 10.34g JSB pellet), will not be your favorite pellet for accuracy/hunting up to 70 yards or more. The Hades and the normal JSB 10.34g, (same weight and shape), fly almost the same. Very little scope adjustment needed between the two. 1) Your scope is not holding zero, (springers usually). 2) Your barrel is dirty. 3) You're just not a good shot. (springers are tougher, but can be done) You guys do what you want. My .177 pellet search is over. :)
Always interesting to watch you testing different guns and pellets 👍 I never thought there would be any difference in barrels on the same gun brand. I have two Daystate Huntsman Hrs, one groups well with Jsb exact and Hades and the other shoots better with AA fields and won’t group with Hades🤔. Keep posting 👍
This video confirms that these hades are no better over range than any other brand ! Of course at 20 yds they can produce good grouping BUT ANY pellet can at short ranges.
They're not really designed for the range though. The hollow point makes them particularly effective for hunting. I use them for rats as they hit hard.
Hi thank you so much for taking the time to show us all. Ps i have just picked up a new bsa r10 th and it loves job 8.44gr but i got some hades .177 10.34gr and its firing them like a shotgun? I might have a bad tin as I can see with a magnifying glass there seems to be lots of very small dents on the skirts of them. Or do you think my r10 just hates them ?
Just bought the BSA CLX I have same problem.I find that when im down to 180 bar.they are a little better.I also watched a you tube video .his first 2 groupes were awfull.then his third groupe was good.I have heard that they dont like certain barrels.even on same rifle make.
Mark Use both .177 and .22 find both fantastic. The Hades in .177 are 4.50 where JSB are usually 4.51 or 4.52 might be head size that make the difference. My s6 likes the Daystate 10.3 the best but struggling to get them now.
Yes, i did wonder about head size. I usually find the 4.52 in .177 and 5.52 in .22 do well in the rifles I have. If they are smaller they don't seem to do as well. I couldn't see the head size on the tin though, but I expect they will do them in various sizes.
@@airgunsniper-elite7385 hades are 4.50 although I have not measured them. What I have found is if you weigh the hades they seem more consistent than the JSB which can range from 10.2 to 10.6 with an odd 10.8. The weight difference seems to affect .177 more than .22.
I tested the .177 Hades in my sub 12ft HW110 at 50 meters and they grouped at an inch with no flyers out of 30 pellets.. They certainly seem to hit with a wack..
My Steyr LG110 177likes all pellets except H&N but the 7.87 express are exceptional. The Hades in 22 at 890fps are fantastic but for best results the 25.39gn reins supreme out to 100 yards
I've shooted up 50 yards with a few rifles in both. 177. . 22...both dared OK up to 40 yards then started to spread out... My daystate mk3 3..is brilliant that's in. 22...i.ve found out... 22 seem to shoot better.. Well in my rifles...
Yes, with the .22 being more of a diabolo shape, they will probably do better than the .177, like Kim Nichols says bellow, the shape of the .177 is probably due the the weight of the pellet, but they seemed to do well in my rifle so far.
USA here, 16.5fpe $120.00 break barrel gun. 80 yards and I am shooting 3" targets with this pellet, (and the almost identical JSB 10.34gr heavy). They are by far the best long range pellets that I have ever used and I have taken small game to 70 yards, (mind you, I shoot my gun well). Even with a sub 12fpe gun, you will never see this pellet going sideways through your paper targets no matter how far you are trying to chuck them. My search is over, Hades it is for me. I can see how they may be a little heavy for a 12fpe gun, (I would keep small game/pest hunting under 30 yards myself, due to lack of pellet energy) but I bet overall, they are still worth it.
@@POINTSOFAIMcheekyscouser When I started holding the gun very lightly, as if it were hanging from 2 strings, and actually pushing the stock from my cheek before I shoot, then feel my terrible trigger as best I could, I started hitting 1" or a bit bigger targets at 63 yards, (range finder measured) about 80% of the time. It is a 16.5fpe Benjamin Titan, and I would be very surprised to find a pellet that works better for long shots than the Hades and it's twin brother, the "exact heavy". I have only shot a few 80 yard shots with pretty good results, but I am past my mill dots on my scope for that far out. I usually shoot targets on my burning barrels, from a door jam of my shop, that is 63 yards, and my confidence with these pellets is off the charts. If I had a better trigger, well, it could only get better. :)
Either my barrel is dirty or my scope is not holding up. I just shot a wild group at 65 yards, and I can see on the pellet and cardboard targets that the pellets are flying sideways at that distance. Well, I guess it has to be that the barrel needs to be cleaned. The scope won't throw a pellet sideways. :)
Could you try the Hades 177cal through a hw 100 please this is my rifle at present i use the H&N Baracuda Hunter Extreme 9.57gr at 25 yards I get 10 shots key hole group but would like to know how they perform through it.
Iv heard these are really good 😊 ?would you say they better than normal airarms Diablos?or normal jsb .177? Like to hear thorts on them?before I try them??? Thank you
hi mark,not bad grouping at all for a .177 at that distance as its only a small pellet,i think they are shaped like that is to get the weight to 10 gns with that barrel portion before the skirt they can get it to that weight were as if it was a standard diabolo shape they wouldnt be able to make up the weight and keep the pellet to a similar length,,lets see what your other rifles do,,good stuff,👍
On paper, the thicker mid section of the pellet may also reduce wind drag for a better BC than a skinny mid section with a deep skirt. It sure does not hurt pellet stability. In my 16.5fpe break barrel, I am hitting 3" targets to 80 yards so far. Lets see "Little Miss Big Skirt" do that for 3 shots in a row. :)
Bought some of these pellets and the groups were terrible I tested them out to 25 yds and they were all over the place so I won’t be using them again I’m very disappointed in the results a waste of money so it’s back to the jsb exacts.
I found the quality very poor, half the pellet skirts were deformed. Compared a tin of standard jsb. Huge diferance in quallity. Going to try a diferant batch from a another gun shop this time Just to see.
Don't know if I should stick my head down he works bog or not ... It's a tricky one , I'm having a beer now and contemplating it .. what I are gonna do is get me butt out on my range Saturday and give them another go .. what I may do is weight a batch ( about 50 ) to get a bit of weight consistency , then test , it's the fliers that do my head in mostly , unfortunately there's no way of putting my results up on here ... Gonna try them in my brocock I think , in not sure if I have or not , I'll need to go through my records .. may , just MAY get another tin , on the off chance I've got a bit of a duffer batch ( or the likes ) so it's more testing for me , hopefully the wind round here ( it's even windy where I shoot when it's still elsewhere around ) kind of a vortex where m range is , not making excuses though ... Another super vid btw , and testing with another rifle ( or two ) will be very interesting .. very interesting indeed ... Btw , my Mrs watched your results and said I SHOULD flush my head down the bog , but she's like that , sadistic old duffer ...
all these type of pellets are shite.you need a fac rifle to get them to work ok ish .all you need is a accurate rifle .and be able to shoot.i use fac and sub 12 with standard pellets with better results by the way how big is the 5 pence piece you are using
I will go against you with my $120.00 16.5fpe department store break barrel gun, (a Benjamin Titan), at 65 yards with this pellet. I will even let you use a bag while I jam myself in a door jam. This pellet is amazing. 1" targets at 65 yards with a break barrel. That is hard to beat man.
Like your video subscribe I shoot a 22 cal break barrel Prowler did the trigger work I worked on this hydraulic a little bit I did a good tune on it she barks my neighbor gave me a Crosman old Springer made in Italy I pried it apart cleaned her Up could use a new seal 1 inch spacer on a spring chronograph constant 550 FPS Drive tanks 60 feet unreal shut up put my two cents in I think I put a nickel in there he he he the Crosman is a 177
thanks for taking the time to make the comparison chap, ive been testing them in my hw100 and am very happy with grouping and as others say they do seem to hit with a whack
Dealing with a bit of wind down here, love it
different start , keep up the good work and don't forget your beauty sleep
I need it.
If your gun is working correctly, there are only about 3 reasons why this pellet, (and the normal 10.34g JSB pellet), will not be your favorite pellet for accuracy/hunting up to 70 yards or more. The Hades and the normal JSB 10.34g, (same weight and shape), fly almost the same. Very little scope adjustment needed between the two.
1) Your scope is not holding zero, (springers usually).
2) Your barrel is dirty.
3) You're just not a good shot. (springers are tougher, but can be done)
You guys do what you want. My .177 pellet search is over. :)
Always interesting to watch you testing different guns and pellets 👍 I never thought there would be any difference in barrels on the same gun brand. I have two Daystate Huntsman Hrs, one groups well with Jsb exact and Hades and the other shoots better with AA fields and won’t group with Hades🤔. Keep posting 👍
Great video Mark 😁
my fx classic stx barrel loves ths Hades one hole 🕳 at 25y & p35 bullpup to pp750 gets on with them to
This video confirms that these hades are no better over range than any other brand ! Of course at 20 yds they can produce good grouping BUT ANY pellet can at short ranges.
They're not really designed for the range though. The hollow point makes them particularly effective for hunting. I use them for rats as they hit hard.
Good video sir, 👍
Hi thank you so much for taking the time to show us all. Ps i have just picked up a new bsa r10 th and it loves job 8.44gr but i got some hades .177 10.34gr and its firing them like a shotgun? I might have a bad tin as I can see with a magnifying glass there seems to be lots of very small dents on the skirts of them. Or do you think my r10 just hates them ?
Just bought the BSA CLX I have same problem.I find that when im down to 180 bar.they are a little better.I also watched a you tube video .his first 2 groupes were awfull.then his third groupe was good.I have heard that they dont like certain barrels.even on same rifle make.
Mark
Use both .177 and .22 find both fantastic.
The Hades in .177 are 4.50 where JSB are usually 4.51 or 4.52 might be head size that make the difference.
My s6 likes the Daystate 10.3 the best but struggling to get them now.
Yes, i did wonder about head size. I usually find the 4.52 in .177 and 5.52 in .22 do well in the rifles I have. If they are smaller they don't seem to do as well. I couldn't see the head size on the tin though, but I expect they will do them in various sizes.
@@airgunsniper-elite7385 hades are 4.50 although I have not measured them.
What I have found is if you weigh the hades they seem more consistent than the JSB which can range from 10.2 to 10.6 with an odd 10.8. The weight difference seems to affect .177 more than .22.
Well done mark, waiting to see how your other rifles perform with the hades, 👍🇬🇧.
Weather permitting I will test them over the next week.
How many members do you have at your club,
Again great video
the JSB 10.34 Shoot lights out out of my hw100 airarms 410 in 4,52
I tested the .177 Hades in my sub 12ft HW110 at 50 meters and they grouped at an inch with no flyers out of 30 pellets.. They certainly seem to hit with a wack..
My Steyr LG110 177likes all pellets except H&N but the 7.87 express are exceptional. The Hades in 22 at 890fps are fantastic but for best results the 25.39gn reins supreme out to 100 yards
I've shooted up 50 yards with a few rifles in both. 177. . 22...both dared OK up to 40 yards then started to spread out... My daystate mk3 3..is brilliant that's in. 22...i.ve found out... 22 seem to shoot better.. Well in my rifles...
Yes, with the .22 being more of a diabolo shape, they will probably do better than the .177, like Kim Nichols says bellow, the shape of the .177 is probably due the the weight of the pellet, but they seemed to do well in my rifle so far.
30 to 35 yards seems to be the maximum distance for the hades
Is that outdoor and indoor.i know theyre for hunting.i will let you know when i try them
USA here, 16.5fpe $120.00 break barrel gun. 80 yards and I am shooting 3" targets with this pellet, (and the almost identical JSB 10.34gr heavy). They are by far the best long range pellets that I have ever used and I have taken small game to 70 yards, (mind you, I shoot my gun well). Even with a sub 12fpe gun, you will never see this pellet going sideways through your paper targets no matter how far you are trying to chuck them. My search is over, Hades it is for me. I can see how they may be a little heavy for a 12fpe gun, (I would keep small game/pest hunting under 30 yards myself, due to lack of pellet energy) but I bet overall, they are still worth it.
@@EarthSurferUSA 70 to 80 yards with any springer is a tough shot
@@POINTSOFAIMcheekyscouser When I started holding the gun very lightly, as if it were hanging from 2 strings, and actually pushing the stock from my cheek before I shoot, then feel my terrible trigger as best I could, I started hitting 1" or a bit bigger targets at 63 yards, (range finder measured) about 80% of the time. It is a 16.5fpe Benjamin Titan, and I would be very surprised to find a pellet that works better for long shots than the Hades and it's twin brother, the "exact heavy". I have only shot a few 80 yard shots with pretty good results, but I am past my mill dots on my scope for that far out. I usually shoot targets on my burning barrels, from a door jam of my shop, that is 63 yards, and my confidence with these pellets is off the charts. If I had a better trigger, well, it could only get better. :)
Either my barrel is dirty or my scope is not holding up. I just shot a wild group at 65 yards, and I can see on the pellet and cardboard targets that the pellets are flying sideways at that distance. Well, I guess it has to be that the barrel needs to be cleaned. The scope won't throw a pellet sideways. :)
Could you try the Hades 177cal through a hw 100 please this is my rifle at present i use the H&N Baracuda Hunter Extreme 9.57gr at 25 yards I get 10 shots key hole group but would like
to know how they perform through it.
Hopefully getting one to try soon, so will give it a go.
found most barrels seem to like then heays and the hades are pretty much the same pellet my s410 loves them
I tend to go with the heavy pellets at our range because it's usually windy, but they are consistent.
Iv heard these are really good 😊 ?would you say they better than normal airarms Diablos?or normal jsb .177? Like to hear thorts on them?before I try them??? Thank you
who flew the union flag upside down ?
hi mark,not bad grouping at all for a .177 at that distance as its only a small pellet,i think they are shaped like that is to get the weight to 10 gns with that barrel portion before the skirt they can get it to that weight were as if it was a standard diabolo shape they wouldnt be able to make up the weight and keep the pellet to a similar length,,lets see what your other rifles do,,good stuff,👍
They certainly did better than I expected at 45 and 50 yards. God knows what was happening at 40 yards.
swirling winds probably,👍
On paper, the thicker mid section of the pellet may also reduce wind drag for a better BC than a skinny mid section with a deep skirt. It sure does not hurt pellet stability. In my 16.5fpe break barrel, I am hitting 3" targets to 80 yards so far. Lets see "Little Miss Big Skirt" do that for 3 shots in a row. :)
Bought some of these pellets and the groups were terrible I tested them out to 25 yds and they were all over the place so I won’t be using them again I’m very disappointed in the results a waste of money so it’s back to the jsb exacts.
when you gets few mins have a look at these on ebay Enfield SLAYER .177. 6.4gr, 1100 for 19£. look similar to the ones u using.
Not heard of these, but will have a look.
I was looking the other day and seen them atvb
I found the quality very poor, half the pellet skirts were deformed. Compared a tin of standard jsb. Huge diferance in quallity. Going to try a diferant batch from a another gun shop this time Just to see.
I shot them through my hw98 and it didn't like them at all.
I'll let you know what they're like in my hw80 and kral hi cap.
Great channel fella.👍🙏
Thanks Paul, yes, they don't suit all barrels, but when they do, they shoot as good as any of the best pellets.
Interesting and entertaining, thanks. Just to let you know that the Union Flag on OPEN flag pole is upside down.
Looking at the flags, they are both upside down. I think someone was having a joke when they left the range yesterday.
Don't know if I should stick my head down he works bog or not ... It's a tricky one , I'm having a beer now and contemplating it .. what I are gonna do is get me butt out on my range Saturday and give them another go .. what I may do is weight a batch ( about 50 ) to get a bit of weight consistency , then test , it's the fliers that do my head in mostly , unfortunately there's no way of putting my results up on here ... Gonna try them in my brocock I think , in not sure if I have or not , I'll need to go through my records .. may , just MAY get another tin , on the off chance I've got a bit of a duffer batch ( or the likes ) so it's more testing for me , hopefully the wind round here ( it's even windy where I shoot when it's still elsewhere around ) kind of a vortex where m range is , not making excuses though ... Another super vid btw , and testing with another rifle ( or two ) will be very interesting .. very interesting indeed ... Btw , my Mrs watched your results and said I SHOULD flush my head down the bog , but she's like that , sadistic old duffer ...
You'll find the right gun for the pellet. It can be very thrustrating when the pellets don't suit a barrel. Head size could be the issue.
@@airgunsniper-elite7385
Head size ... Yeah , good point , I'm gonna look into that ...
all these type of pellets are shite.you need a fac rifle to get them to work ok ish .all you need is a accurate rifle .and be able to shoot.i use fac and sub 12 with standard pellets with better results
by the way how big is the 5 pence piece you are using
I will go against you with my $120.00 16.5fpe department store break barrel gun, (a Benjamin Titan), at 65 yards with this pellet. I will even let you use a bag while I jam myself in a door jam. This pellet is amazing. 1" targets at 65 yards with a break barrel. That is hard to beat man.
Like your video subscribe I shoot a 22 cal break barrel Prowler did the trigger work I worked on this hydraulic a little bit I did a good tune on it she barks my neighbor gave me a Crosman old Springer made in Italy I pried it apart cleaned her Up could use a new seal 1 inch spacer on a spring chronograph constant 550 FPS Drive tanks 60 feet unreal shut up put my two cents in I think I put a nickel in there he he he the Crosman is a 177
20 yards? really 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂