Two Christian ladies said to me “We think Muhammad copied the Bible" | Imam Tom Facchine
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I was only thinking this today myself. How is it possible that prophet Muhammad peace be upon him copied the bible. When Jewish women are not allowed to divorce a man, A Christian women is not allowed to divorce a man but a Muslim women are given the right to divorce a man. That law shows how different Islam is and perfect it is. Heaven is beneath your mother's feet.
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@@fedesetrtatio1 Just because there is sexist men just like many are racist and sexist in Christiantity does not make Islam dominant towards men. Women only were given rights to vote less than 100 years ago in the western nations whilst Islam is the only religion that gave women inheritance rights. Islam has encouraged women to educate so they raise intelligent boys. But we know the effects of the collinal world has had on Islam with Victorian attitudes and behaviours that women are treated like 2nd class citizens and women rights are about them being sexual objects Liberalism having a sex industry. Nothing to do with Islam, western IMF World Bank and law makers supporting and putting kings and dictatorships around the middle East and supplying weapons to them do not repersent Islam. So you going on about shria courts is only a interpretation of shria laws with western ideology.
@@fedesetrtatio1 Muslim nations with Christian Georgian calendar, they don't have a Islamic calender because of western hegemony. Then you talk about shria laws, Covid 19 lockdown showed how the world truly works, World Health organisation, Rockerfella.
@@fedesetrtatio1 The Church is a institution for pedophiles touching up little boys and being celibate nuns are doing it the wrong way.
@@fedesetrtatio1 Like imperialism don't have anything to do with the Muslim world. Islamic Republic of Pakistan has all it's laws written in English, the official language of Pakistan is English, Just because it has the word Islamic does not make the country Islamic. The laws of divorce are very similar to the British laws, Secular nations with nationalism. Islam does not belive in nationalism because we believe in one umah (nation). One human family created by Allah all being children of Adam.
Only when shria law becomes the law of the world true justice will prevail and there will be true peace.
Allahuma barik you're a gifted speaker imam Tom !
Very true.
Agreed💎
Umm….as a Christian, I can explain it all quite easily. Ready? Because when you are trying to create a fake document knowing that you are copying from it, and you want the entire world to believe it, you don’t want it EXACTLY the same, word for word. So you change things up just a tiny little bit, but the main message and story is similar, but not exact….like copying from your friends homework paper. A fool would have all of the same answers as the friend, and not intentionally mark the wrong answer to make it look like you did not copy……
Most of the Christians antagonistic claims against the Qur'an are just conjectures and lies that have no basis. May Allāh guide us and preserve us on the straight path.
500 years before Muhammad
@@loriecabantac6913
What do you mean ?
[He has revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ the Book in truth, confirming what came before it, as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel] Quran 3:3
Listen to them recite the Bible, then recite the Quran. The same Prophet (SAW) that they like to make fun of as an illiterate somehow copied the Bible, and yet his (SAW) "Bible copy" held up better over time than the actual Bible did. People aren't just blind; they want to be.
So precise as always, imam Tom, MashaAllah.
🌜.. Marvelous Dawah. Iman Tom.. May Allah grant you Jannah.. 🌛. 💖. From Malaysia.. 🌴
You could also mention the stories of Prophet Lut in Bible.
Jazakallah Imam
The Quran describes in detail, the development of the human embryo at each stage inside the womb with scientific accuracy. I haven't read anything like that in the Bible. So how was it "copied"?
@@fedesetrtatio1 😂
@@fedesetrtatio1 let's see.. Galen purported that the father's sperm would mix with the mother's period blood and form a skeletal structure. Qur'an makes no mention of this, but accurately outlines the scientific fact that bones form before flesh. It also accurately asserts the formation of testies in the fetus developing between the ribcage and backbone, also a scientific fact.
@@fedesetrtatio1 the ignorant. The same people who are against prophet muhammad that time.
Sahih al-Bukhari says the drop of semen, clot & lump of flesh stages are each 40 days (6594) with the sexual determination coming at the end of that (318)
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Very impressive explanation
thank you akhi for such clarification barak'allah fik
Great explanation Imam. 🤞..🇸🇬
Masha Allah.. Allahumma Barik
Subhanallah ❤
Wow mind blown!
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JAK for the summary! People make that assumption as if it’s obvious without taking a closer look. There’s quite a lot in the Qur’an that is not in the Bible, including stories of prophets Hud and Salih (peace be upon them) and their peoples, although the ‘Ad are mentioned in other historical sources, and the story of Sulayman (peace be upon him) and Saba/Sheba, for example, which is mentioned not in the Bible but in the Talmud. There would have had to be too many sources actually, which were not even available to Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) whatsoever, and he wouldn’t have been able to hide all that literacy and learning from his people including his own wife who was the first to believe in him.
Great video. I would’ve talked about historical corrections the Quran makes I.e only one Pharoh in Moses’a time and the ruler in Joseph’s story being called Pharoh before the title existed when the Quran correctly calls him king. These corrections feel like hard evidence
People who think and said "Quran copied the Bible" they clearly didn't read both side by side, and just using their own assumptions and from their surroundings.
Exactly. And even if it was "plagiarized" as the naive jahils say, then you would have seen in it more contradictions and errors than the Bible already possesses.
Imam tom could upload the rest og beginning of classical arabic
What about the errors? Somehow NONE were copied. The story of Adam's creation and the dialogue between The Almighty and the angels and satan leading to the determination that there was no such thing as the original sin. The emphasis on how to achieve salvation. The fact that satan is not an angel. Solomon is a prophet. Noah's son drowned. Prophets and messengers did not commit the atrocious acts mentioned in the NT. Adam and Eve eating from the tree not just Eve. Lot sleeping with his daughters. Jesus getting crucified. .........
Right !
Ustadh is 'unlettered' a better way to say rasulullah saw did not have an education, as opposed to saying illiterate? Just my thoughts jazakallah khayr
The depth of the verses of Quran is felt over the lifetime.
Alhamdulillah for the eternal truth liers have no feet to stand on judgement day is near and may ALLAH grant us death upon Islam and save us from the hellfire Aameen YARABB
Quran also fixes historical errors in the Bible and does not include them.
Allah hu Akbar.
illiterate means someone who is incredibly ignorant which includes not knowing how to read and read unlettered with the prophet salallahualayuwasallam he didn't know how to read or write but was a man who possessed good knowledge
_"...which includes not knowing how to read and read"_
Perhaps you meant to type 'write'?
Also, best to format and punctuate your sentences so that others can understand it better.
But why should the similarities be difficult to comprehend when it's the same God that sent the prophets Jesus and Mohammed with the same message? It's not like Islam denounces Jesus while at the same time having similarities with Christianity.
And how can you do a thorough study of both scriptures, and you're an honest person, and conclude that the Qur'an copied from the Bible? Yup, I "think" is all they'd say. Pure conjecture.
Once it's the same GOD that gave the scriptures to His prophets, the similarities are only to be expected. But how can you ignore the many instances where the Qur'an corrects the mistakes humans have riddled the Bible with? I see the scriptures as volumes of work, with the latest being an improvement over the earlier, except that in this case, the failings of the former, are that of humans and not of God.
@@fedesetrtatio1 By God to whom is our return altogether, a day is coming when you'll bear witness to this ignorant claim. Keep at it
@@fedesetrtatio1 calm down. Be honest like Jesus. Don't lie. Pick a copy of the Qur'an and read it. Nothing will happen to you. Come back let's have a discussion. Trolling each other won't help. Let's engage based on knowledge. Mind you, once again, a day is coming when we'd all have to defend the claims we make about God, even if on social media.
@@fedesetrtatio1 thanks for the question. This question proves I was right in asking you to pick a copy of the Qur'an and read. Your initial claim about paganism exposes your lack of knowledge on Islam beyond the hackneyed anti-islamic soundbites spread by islamophobes. For your answer, once again, kindly pick a copy of the Qur'an and read it with an open mind, just for your own edification. While at it, kindly highlight or underline every part ( and there're a lot) that speaks about the nature of Allah, which is Arabic for God almighty, and study them closely. And remember to take note of the verses condemning paganism, which includes what people like you have turned the prophet Jesus into.
Kindly let's have a discussion about your misgivings afterwards. Once again, be true and honest to yourself and embark on this exercise. Jesus would want you to be an honest person, not a liar who claims to be his worshipper. I'll be waiting.
@@fedesetrtatio1 here we go again. Here's the thing with you trolls. You're not willing to learn whatsoever. As such, it's not like you're going to ponder over anything I say here. I deliberately asked you to read the Qur'an. If you were sincere, that's about the right thing you'd do. You're only interested in spreading your lies. Of the 44 comments you have on this channel, all you keep doing is to say things without basis. You keep claiming the Qur'an was copied from the Bible while you refuse to read the Qur'an. These infantile points you've listed, thinking you've said something so profound, are only laughable, honestly.
Yahweh is the only legitimate name for the God of Abraham? So, apparently, when you people claim Jesus shouted something on the cross, he said: "Yahweh, Yahweh, lama sabachthani" and not Eli Eli, which is very close to the Arabic 'Allah' becuase Arabic and, Aramaic which Jesus spoke, were close. Well, you confuse the personages of God and Jesus anyway, in a meaningless hotchpotch. Virtually all languages have a word for God Almighty. But due to your insincerity and lack of integrity, when it comes to Arabic, you try to denounce the name of God in that language. Arabic should be the only language without a name for God Almighty, according to your warped logic. How do Arabic speaking Christians call God? They say Allahu. Stop your nonsense and seek knowledge ok.
And about love for Jews and whatnots, let me remind you that the Qur'an says not only does God love the Jews who are sincere but also sincere Christians. Find that in Qur'an 2:62
By the way, God doesn't love an insincere Muslim too. For all of us, though, He says He forgives all sins so long as we acknowledge our bad deeds and are willing to turn to Him in repentance. Find that in Qur'an 39:53, you silly boy who wants me to spoon feed him. lol
Of course, the Qur'an does have some strong words for the insincere Jews and Christians who have tampered with scripture to follow their vain desires.
But is it not interesting that you, who claims to be a Christian, are holding a brief for Jews, when they view you as an idol worshiper? What do they think of Jesus? They claim he's an imposter, something a Muslim would never say about the messenger of God, subhaanallah. You don't think. I remember seeing a video where some of them interviewed said they'd rather enter a mosque than a church, because the church is a place for idol worship, which is true because you've idolised a messenger of Allah. And you're here accusing Islam of paganism. Funny.
And about Allah's love for mankind, what is a more powerful expression of that than what you find in Qur'an 17:70? Go read, you lazy cocoon. More about Allah's love: Qur'an 2:163, 9:104, 19:96, 2:222 and on and on.
Look, I have things to do. In fact, I minded you only because you showed under my comment. I wouldn't see your comment anywhere and mind you. I know too well how you trolls operate. You just need someone's attention for you to go off on a tangent. But do an introspection. Do you honestly think Jesus would be happy with a lying, insincere person like you, who goes about making claims without basis? I won't mind you again. I'll save my energy for better things. Go ahead and post your worst.
@@fedesetrtatio1 god of kaabah? Never heard this, you just create this to make islam looks bad? Oh come on your cheap accusing are nothing. Kaabah acted as a direction of all muslim as unity. We united in one direction worshipping Allah, not worshipping the kaabah. U kaffir didnt know about this and accused islam like u know everything. If u know everything, u will b revert to islam and not lost like this moment
Ask that 2 ladies to show just one verse in the quran that copied from the bible. Just one! Word for word. That's what copied means.
His wife's cousin was Christian, there's a hadith saying he read the Injil in Arabic.
The fact that there are differences from the Bible doesn't prove your point.
The Old Testament couldn't have been substantially tampered with by Christians, as Jews had custody of it as well.
If Prophet Muhammed pbuh copied the bible, why didnt he copy the mistakes 🤣🤣🤣
So did these ladies and the rest of the people that think this way love the Quran because it supposedly is the bible?
Nice try but no cigar. Early in his life, on his commercial journeys to Syria and Palestine Muhammed became acquainted with Jews and Christians, and it was here that he acquired an imperfect knowledge of their religion and traditions - nothing to do with copying a Bible.
genuine question: why you believe that the Quran is the word of God?
*Saheeh International Translation*
_{ And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down [i.e., the Qur’ān] upon Our Servant [i.e., Prophet Muḥammad (ﷺ)], then produce a sūrah the like thereof and call upon your witnesses [i.e., supporters] other than Allāh, if you should be truthful. But if you do not - and you will never be able to - then fear the Fire, whose fuel is people and stones, prepared for the disbelievers. } [Al-Baqarah:23-24]_
One of the reasons some scientific mentions in it about which people in Muhammad's time had no idea, were only found in more recent history.
Because something that happen 1400 years ago was mentioned today by a scientist. Universe, the earth etc. How people back then with limited of knowledge about the earth and universe can describe it so well unless it was from the creator?
Mohamed copying from the bible is like a blind man 👨🦯 winning a race against Usain Bolt 😂
Also if Muhammad remembered the qaran and memories it he would of learned to read and write much easier as reading is mostly by memory. When you see a word you know it from memory.
I have NEVER known a knowledgeable Christian that would think that !
NO comparison can be made of the two contradicting narratives.
The quran does plagiarize some gnostic and pagan stories deemed heretical to Christians.
The names of prophets were adopted and altered from the Jewish scriptures, but none of their prophetic teachings and narrative were transferred.
The concept of “Bible” is generalized by the speaker and therefore not conceptually comprehended to analyze.
Observation evidences the quran to not be a continuance of the Jewish scriptures, only Jewish, gnostic and pagan beliefs conglomerated into a new religion with a different god and mohamed the center of the adherents adulation.
Nope. We muslim believe in 4 holy books. Psalm, torah, bible and quran. The rest was re write and altered. The original scripture is the only book we trust. And fyi, in islam we have 25 prophet to remember. From Adam until the last, prophet Muhammad. The book was sent down to the chosen prophet so that he could guide them , to worship one god. But still, the disbelivers keep against the prophet and god.
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“We muslims” and “the rest was rewrite altered” ?
You claim to be muslim, yet you rewrite the quran with your own mouth !
You claim your god limited in protecting his word.
There are no prophets of islam, prophets speak truth provided by the Father.
He walked with Adam, spoke and appeared to Abraham and Moses. Your god is silent !
SURAH AL-MA’IDAH AYAT 46
وَقَفَّيۡنَا عَلَىٰٓ ءَاثَٰرِهِم بِعِيسَى ٱبۡنِ مَرۡيَمَ مُصَدِّقٗا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلتَّوۡرَىٰةِۖ وَءَاتَيۡنَٰهُ ٱلۡإِنجِيلَ فِيهِ هُدٗى وَنُورٞ وَمُصَدِّقٗا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلتَّوۡرَىٰةِ وَهُدٗى وَمَوۡعِظَةٗ لِّلۡمُتَّقِينَ
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And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous.
@@hussitewagoner6838 rewrite as i mentioned there was the other which is torah, bible and psalm.
@@hussitewagoner6838 why you're not completing the verse ? Ayat 47 and above.
Al Maidah 47 - And let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allāh has revealed therein. And whoever does not judge by what Allāh has revealed - then it is those who are the defiantly disobedient.
@@hussitewagoner6838 let the followers of the Gospel decide things according to what God has revealed therein. In this verse there is a number of significance: "We command...". Meaning, Allah has commanded those who follow the Gospel to judge using what is in the Gospel. Meaning, there is a legal verse in the Gospel as well. It is in addition to the laws in the Torah. And as has been mentioned, there is an opinion that says some of the laws in the Torah are abrogated by the verses in the Gospel.
The Torah and Injeel was with Mohammad saying 'I believe in thee and to the one who sent thee...He lied.. Mohammad got scribes....lol without lies, Islam dies..
No they weren't. The "Torah "and "injeel" refer to the verbatim Word of God given to Moses and Jesus respectively.
If the Scriptures was intact there would be no reason to bring a new Revelation.
@@Aquacrystal78 Mohammad got the original Torah and Injeel in His hands or He was lying or you are denying...Mohammad is copying from them when He making quran..If He did not copy, the quran will be 50% less chapters and verses..Now the bible of today as muslims claiming is different from the content in the quran so they claim bible was corrupted..lol Mohammad was a "christian" like His wife Kahdija and uncle Waraqa.. They made Mohammad prophet...lol
Without accusing, christianity dies. Without changing the real religion and faith, christianity died
@@evejohn8017 What kind of religion teaches you to lie?...Mohammad said that christians will be victorious till end times...You dont believe your prophet....
The hadith isn't authentic
Get over it
Ignoring verses and hadiths that say that the bible was changed then quoting an inauthentic hadith is quite dishonest
Ironic of you to accuse us of lying
I hear many assertions but not a lot of actual substance.
The onus is on the claimants that Muhammad pbuh plagiarized the Bible to prove their claim. But that attempt usually ends with their conversion or humiliation and becoming irrelevant.
Imam Tom gave facts about the backgrounds and for the " unbelieving Thomas'" is to read and study if the question asked is genuine.
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I don't even believe that all or even necessarily most of the Quran was transmitted from Muhammad. But we know beyond any shadow of a doubt that it incorporates pre-existing stories that circulated among Jews and Christians at the time, like the Protoevangelium of James, the Seven Sleepers of Ephesus, the Book of Enoch, or the stories about Alexander the Great, etc.
@@ConsideringPhlebas only if you believe those stories are fiction, would you claim that any reference to them is "incorporation" or "copying". But if you beleive they are factual events, then you would not have any problem with God referencing them.
@@ConsideringPhlebas "But we know beyond any shadow of a doubt that it incorporates pre-existing stories that circulated among Jews and Christians at the time, like the Protoevangelium of James, the Seven Sleepers of Ephesus, the Book of Enoch, or the stories about Alexander the Great, etc."
So?
If I say that JFK was assassinated on November 22, 1963, does that mean that me telling you that makes it less valid just because Walter Cronkite said it before me? Were they just stories, or did they actually happen? And what was the context in which those stories were relayed in the Quran? Were they just mentioned to be mentioned, like some cheap sticker to entice Christians or Jews, or were there specific circumstances going on at the time of their revelation? Have you yourself ever even read or listened to any tafsir? Yeah, I'm not getting a lot of substance from you either, in fact.
@@ConsideringPhlebas the Quran doesnt talk about Alexander the great. Dhul Qarnayn was a monotheist, Alexander was a polytheist.
Which Quran are the word of god?
Hafs, Warsh, or other 30 modern version quran?
Which old manuscript did you refer to?
All version are different. Some word even doesn't have meaning in arabic, and borrowed from other languages.
Existence of Jesus, his title and Injeel in Quran itself proof that its not word of god.
Original Jesus name in hebrew reveal God name (its not Allah). Al Masih/Messiah meaning didn't fit Islam teaching. Yet Islam use it term without know the meaning. 😂
Injeel meaning "Good news" in hebrew. Which refer to Jesus sacrifice himself for human sin and beat death. Thats why it called good news. Its illogical to give Jesus "good news" when the news not happen yet.
Also Jesus die on the cross are historical event, admited by schollar consensus. Jesus early follower all also being persecuted by Roman are historical event by schollar consensus. Which both event are not match with Quran description.
Historically wrong, a lot of variant, many unknown foreign word, mess up old manuscript, many error.
So why you believe Quran again? 😂😂
Do u know what the science of qira't and what are the 10 qira't mean?😂😂😂 u are one of the most ignorant people i ever seen
I don't actually think we muslims are more threat to you than athiesm, UK was once 100% christian, now it's 45% and still going down, US is 63% and estimated to be 30% by 2050, churches are empty and are being transformed into resturants and even strip clubs, christianity is so weak that the catholic church had to change the bible teachings and allow homosexuality and keep christians stick to ur faith, the christian faith submits to what people desire, not people submitting to christian weak teachibgs
The Hafs version is a 2nd form verb, while the Warsh version has an extra alif to make a 4th form verb. This intensifies the meaning of the verb. The two words are recited differently but have the same meaning. They are two different examples of the 8th form jussive verb. Its not a version of quran but the way you read it you fool. 🤣 This ignorant person beyond universe. U cant find any mistake in quran because it word of god. While bible is inspired by word of god and being write by Luke, mathew, lucas, john etc etc after a few years jesus was 'died'
Together, their style is the most common form of Qur'anic recitation in the generality of African mosques outside of Egypt, and is also popular in Yemen and Darfur despite the rest of Sudan following the method of Hafs.
Bible got so many copies and diffwrent writer and verse. So confusing. The bible forbid alcohol & pork but the church approved. The bible never mentioned jesus is a god, but Paul said he was god. The old testament never mentioned about jesus is a god unless a prophet. Yet why you got 4 other christianity - protestant, angelic church, catholic, and orthodoxs. U yourself are confused about ur own faith , but trying to destroyed quran and islam. So evil. Jesus taught u that ? I dont think so. Shaytan iblees who taught u to against what jesus have taught
Masha allah