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Dr Ali Ataie, love his academic approach and the way he breaks things down and explains complex subject matter. More of Dr Ali Ataie please 🙏🏽. Jzk khairun brother Paul ❤️
You clearly haven't read anything by Dr William Lane Craig, then, and his critique of islam. How deficient its doctrine of God's justice is. How ineffective its doctrine of salvation is. And how it makes out God to be a liar and deceiver, to have made billions of people think that Jesus actually died on the cross but in fact, it was only made to appear that way.
@@thecloudtherapist Man look into both sides of the coin instead of just one, any of your arguments can and already have been refuted, the internet is free kid
This channel is literally a house of wisdom, a wide open treasure of VAST AMOUNTS of knowledge just there sitting to be viewed. May Allah Reward you for all your efforts Paul.
@@farfalcon1616 Explain koran 22.52 outside the context of the satanic verses. Give me 5 examples of other prophets reciting something that satan threw in their recitation. 😁
The Quran itself shows that in all probability, the story of the satanic verses is true: *Q**22:52* “And We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that when he spoke [or recited], Satan threw into it [some misunderstanding]. But Allāh abolishes that which Satan throws in; then Allāh makes precise His verses. And Allāh is Knowing and Wise.” - will you still then deny?
@@ScottyyyB96That translation is more direct, translating word for word. To a scholar in Quran the verses connotation fits this translation better "Whenever We sent a messenger or a prophet before you ˹O Prophet˺ and he recited ˹Our revelations˺, Satan would influence ˹people’s understanding of˺ his recitation. But ˹eventually˺ Allah would eliminate Satan’s influence. Then Allah would ˹firmly˺ establish His revelations. And Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise."
@@ScottyyyB96That translation is more direct, translating word for word. To a scholar in Quran the verses connotation fits this translation better "Whenever We sent a messenger or a prophet before you ˹O Prophet˺ and he recited ˹Our revelations˺, Satan would influence ˹people’s understanding of˺ his recitation. But ˹eventually˺ Allah would eliminate Satan’s influence. Then Allah would ˹firmly˺ establish His revelations. And Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise."
The Quran itself shows that in all probability, the story of the satanic verses is true: *Q**22:52* “And We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that when he spoke [or recited], Satan threw into it [some misunderstanding]. But Allāh abolishes that which Satan throws in; then Allāh makes precise His verses. And Allāh is Knowing and Wise.” - will you still then deny?
@@BloggingTheology The story of the satanic verses is true not only because of the criterion of embarrassment, but mainly because your early scholars affirm that it happened. al-Tabari's account is more than enough to demolish any of your objections. Additionally to that, the koran testifies it happened in 22.52. Your false prophet bowed down and worshiped satan. You can dance around the fact all you want - it shall remain indisputable. I challenge you to post a comprehensive list of ALL your scholars [up until 250 years AH] that rejected the truthfulness of this incident, and necessarily labeled al-Tabari and ibn-Hisham as blasphemers for including it in their writings.
@@JohnGeometresMaximos Lol a Christian prince fan. I saw Al Tabari explanation he said the story is unauthentic. Iam native Arabic speaker and I read the part about the satanic verses.
People weren't really bothered they listened to the wrong MEDEA that feed them with false information and the answer to this misconception made by this man can be resolved by asking the question. Show us those verses and let us read them ourselves to form a decision. But people chose to believe him instead of questioning his integrity.
Yes, true. Incidentally, the first caliph also fabricated a hadiith to advance his own interest. I explain above here: th-cam.com/video/bIplkk05rd8/w-d-xo.html&lc=Ugy_Z16oa-YM_n3iaNl4AaABAg
You must be very special that Allah answers your private prayers. In my home country ( Iraq) it is shortage of rain. They pray each and every Friday for rain 🌧 but Allah never answers them.
@@haran2560 Read the story of Musa (As) where he, a prophet of God, did the prayer for rain but It didn't come. He asked Allah why, He said there's among the people 1 who has sinned, but not yet repented. The guy repented and then rain came. So, it doesn't matter how many times you do it, if you don't have imaan it won't help. Furthermore it has been answered several times, you can look it up.
Well, no. Yasir Quadhi presents it as legitimate, as in "look at these famous scholars who said this was real, I'm not saying it's real, but it could totally be real" which is just one of many things Yasir Quadhi says that are problematic. Anyway, if they are fabricated, and we are certain they are fabricated, that means they don't have any chance of being real. Meaning Yasir Quadhi either spoke of it without knowing that or he deliberately misrepresented the issue for some reason. It's either clearly fabricated or "it may have some truth to it because others believed it before", it cannot be both
What an interesting lesson. Ya shaikh, you have transferred blogging theology one of the most important channel that discuses different science school of thoughts and your esteemed guests are well-versed in their specializations....Masha-Allah
May Allah SWT bless Dr Ali Atae love his knowledge of our beautiful deen and to Paul as well for introduced Dr. Ali to the whole wide viewers Masha Allah.
Thank you Dr Ali Altaie and Paul for bringing up this discussion at the write time. I came to know the real insight in this whole intriguing subject. جَزَاكَ ٱللَّٰهُ خَيْرًا
First time I’ve ever seen this brother but he broke things down beautifully and left no ways out for any opponent with such an argument. BarakAllahu feekum
Oh boy salaam alaikum wa Rahtullahi wa Barakatuh brother Paul 😄😄😄😄🥳🥳🥳 we're so glad to see you back on your live‼️ please tell me you've brought our respected and beloved Dr Ali Attaie 😳😳😳🌞🌞🌞😱😱😱😱. WALLAHI I've been wanting to see him again in another podcast‼️‼️‼️
Brother Paul, I’m so glad I did not waste my time on this subject the 1st time you published this topic (no disrespect just picking my priorities, appreciate all your hard work btw), till yesterday I had no idea who the author of this “book” nor what this is all about and so glad I’m still in that way, so many critical topics I’m ignorant about. May Allah Guide us all, ameen.
@@OlrightOK what special about it is that islamophobes use that book against islam as if it’s a credible book based on a fact, a master piece for them hence make a 🤡 out of themselves
It was just a novel...A story! There are many novels based on flimsy history. It would've been insignificant if it wasn't for Khomeini's fatwa! That fatwa gave Salman Rushdie fame and career he would never have dreamed of. It propelled him into stardom. If Rushdie dies from this incident he will be considered a hero and martyr!
Well, orientalist literature is its own field of study. Genocides of indigenous were possible because the colonizers wrote fictional books to dehumanize the group of people they colonized. It is method used throughout history.
Whose more of a clown? The person who created the book or the people triggered by the fabricated story so much they wish to kill the author. Even after 30+ years of the book being out.
You have raised the bar in "podcasts" you deserve an Oscar for all your hard work.. Generally stopped listening to music in the gym... All I listen to is your podcasts...I actually found stuff to do around the house , so I can listen to your podcasts with earphones on
Very succinctly put and doubts if any laid to rest, and to be honest I didn't noticed about your beard but when some one pointed out, any way carry-on Paul and regards to Ali.
This story if true it actually proves the sincerity of the prophet because why would he not exploit the pagans through verses like these when according to the story they believed in him after the verse ? Why would he chose to remain on monotheism when he and his companions would be persecuted ? This was to be the peak of his power why would he give that power up for monotheism ?
They will try literally everything they can to tarsh the image of the Prophet Muhammad SAW not realising Allah has preserved his honour and in the day of judgement he is the praised one and will be praised upon when mankind will be shaking in fear of what's to come
Discussing about a particular religion or about any religious figure in a proper manner from reliable sources should have no issues, but making up things just to hurt others is totally different. This person did exactly that and got what he called for. And don't lecture us to become a spineless community where nobody stands up for nothing, where you can walk the road wearing a T-shirt saying "Jesus is g**" when He never was!
I have a shirt that says "Muhammad was a Semen-stained possessed man who was given to revelation from the devil which is called the Quran"... I would wear I front of you and YOU would do absolutely nothing akhi! Nothing! I would also urinate on the Quran in front of you and YOU would do nothing!!!... So don't talk big, especially when you openly support terrorism.
Superb deconstruction of the calumny against the Messenger ﷺ and the Qur’an. ما شاء الله We are blessed to have this brother in our ranks. Thank you, Paul, for hosting him. 🌹لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله🌹
Salman the apostating liar spent majority of his life in hiding and fear for writing falsehood in order to sell it and gain popularity. I pray that Allah guides him The ending statement of brother ali is priceless. Quran will take care of itself, no lie can approach it from any side. It defends itself from the beginning of its revelation until the hour is established. It is a majestic book and a criteria between truth and falsehood
@@TheConservativeHippie may Rusdhi get The Nobel prize and his novel The sataniv verses IS already selling millions now thanks to The publicity of The stabbing....Muslims got It wrong again😂
@@joemacarra something tells me you are a Jew or a Zionist Xtian. Because the Zionists get pleasure dividing people and spreading hatred instead of finding similarities and common ground. I once gave a Quran to an orthodox Rabbi and later after reading it he converted to Islam
Plus These invented verses should have been placed right after verses 19-20 which mention the idols, but we find that the prostration mark appears in the last verse (62) of the chapter that says: So prostrate yourselves to Allah and worship! *The prophet never stopped reciting until he finished the entire chapter*
i did sed that response in another video. Prostate to Allaah and worship him. The object here is Allaah. And after the so called satanic verses, the whole surah then goes on to insulting their gods. It just doesn't then add up that the prophet would prostate to pagan gods as a direct result.
What I don't get is how on earth did a man armed with knife pass the security? And how did attacker post about this on FB when they have an AI that IMMEDIATELY flags posts about Gaza /Hamas or against LGTV, but let this guy post to his heart content. Search Google for Rushdie's location, then arriving at the scene , pass the security with a knife. Let's be honest, nobody's heard Salman Rushdie's name perhaps in decades. Onky a few articles about him a few months ago for some reason. He's 75 years of age.The Iranians gov actually made this guy popular. They've done far far worse in term of insulting Quran, the ahadeeth and the sahaba! It's a joke. The endgame is to use this guy as a symbol against Islamic extremism. Nobody's gonna care the assailant who's American citizen, is pro-Iran, pro Solemani & pro-Khomeini. Rushdie could've died died at 76 and be forgotten. But this attack serves the secular liberalists agenda as well as the far rights.
Muhammad broke all of the ten commandments. Was it satan who was in the cave with Muhammad? Not gibrail. Because when ever a angel came to a human they was scared at first then felt at piece...Muhammad was a scared shaking unit the entirety let Muhammad go, Muhammad ran home to his wife shouting and crying I've seen shaitan in the cave...now tell me if that sounds like gibrail or shaitan?
Because you show me the Importance of real scholars and why we dhpulmed be left to our own biases! Ever! Seeking knowledge is must not a luxury and this touches on the human psyhce too! It is incredible اللهم لك الحمد 🤲
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 📜 Analysis of the Christian contention regarding Deuteronomy 18:20 02:00 🧐 The Story of the Satanic Verses 05:45 💡 Interpretations and Rebuttals of the Satanic Verses 08:29 📚 The Role of Fabrication in Religious Texts 11:51 🔍 Applying Textual Criticism to the Satanic Verses 14:44 📖 Prophet Muhammad as the Best Candidate for Deuteronomy 18:20 Made with HARPA AI
Dear Paul, thank you for all the efforts you are doing. May Allah save your heart and reward you. May I ask you to create a website where we can found these topic Witten Thank you.
The curse of the entire Muslim made Salman Rushdie hence this condition. If anyone stand against almighty Allah Azwajjal and his prophets their condition would be like this. Yah Allah forgive our sins and make us the best people among the worst. Ameen yah rabbul alamin 🤲
I think there are 2 issues on these "satanic" verses: a) If there several early sources saying the same thing from the early Muslim era, can we simply dismiss that? b) Just because a later verse says the Prophet could not have fallen victim, so to say, to the 'satans verses', does not automatically mean that the original event did not happen.
The satanic verses story is so stupid it's hard to think anyone would take it seriously. The idea satan whispers to a prophet to say something wrong is clearly a Christian type of legend. Isn't there something about Jesus in the wilderness? As as Muslim I do not believe any prophet of God has ever been tempted or controlled by Satan or anything else.
@@sparephone8228 For at least 150 odd years it WAS taken seriously by the early Muslims. It was only after a few hundred years that Muslims realised how very embarrassing this episode was and decided one option (widely followed) is to deny this even happened in the first place. However, documented records exist demonstrating that the episode, however embarrassing, actually happened. Therefore, as mush as you wish, the satanic verses story is not stupid at all. Just embarrassing. People (Muslims) have to accept that.
@@dollishillwork No satanic verse incident took place. The story is so stupid and contradicts all the inner evidence of the Qur'aan. Secondly it just seems as Dr Ali said, someone made up the story for a 'tafseer' commentry for one of the verses of the Qur'aan. Thirdly it does seem it was borrowed from Christian ideas about Jessus[pbuh] in the wilderness [something Muslims do not believe]. As with all these stupid hadiths, an analysis of the links in the chain of narraotors will reveal obvious flaws. Have you not even noticed all the Qur'aan fragments from the first 30 years of Islam have no 'satanic verses'? Hard evidence cannot be contradicted by a story that appears over 100 years lateror when ever it appeared. Another point, satan in Islamic theology is the eternal tempeter, not someone who takes over a person, again Christian mythology of exorcism etc
a) yes we can dismiss it. the chains are weak or disconnected (it's not coming from witnesses and they might all go back to a single source who spread some rumours and the story developed by many retellings). b) the opposite also is not true. These verses doesn't match up with the rest of surahs. So it may have not been a part of it. Pretty sure you are just biased so you are trying to push it as true.
Dr. Ataie, many thanks, you made this point cristal clear for me ☺ Paul, you're relentless 🙂 Wish you both be blessed by Allah. 👍🏽😘 Edit: Isaiah 42? Please
I like this explanation. It makes sense. I came upon the verses in surat al Hajj in Ramadan and the explanation for it disturbed me. I asked Allah to find an answer for this and let it go. Dr Ali’s answer is very acceptable as an explanation on why the Satanic verses story exists.
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Dr Ali Ataie, love his academic approach and the way he breaks things down and explains complex subject matter. More of Dr Ali Ataie please 🙏🏽. Jzk khairun brother Paul ❤️
So true I share your ideas . I really value and appreciate both Paul and Dr Ali
There's always a difference between an intellectual's response and a layman's response
You clearly haven't read anything by Dr William Lane Craig, then, and his critique of islam.
How deficient its doctrine of God's justice is. How ineffective its doctrine of salvation is. And how it makes out God to be a liar and deceiver, to have made billions of people think that Jesus actually died on the cross but in fact, it was only made to appear that way.
@@thecloudtherapist Man look into both sides of the coin instead of just one, any of your arguments can and already have been refuted, the internet is free kid
Satan is well alive today and years past
Always a pleasure to hear Dr. Ataie speak.
Thanks for clipping this separately Paul!
Glad to see you here
what is this tankie doing here? Astaghfirullah
Best Islamic info channel on TH-cam hands down ! No topic or subject is off limits and covered thoroughly
This channel is literally a house of wisdom, a wide open treasure of VAST AMOUNTS of knowledge just there sitting to be viewed.
May Allah Reward you for all your efforts Paul.
Glad you enjoy it!
Amin
@@farfalcon1616
Explain koran 22.52 outside the context of the satanic verses.
Give me 5 examples of other prophets reciting something that satan threw in their recitation. 😁
@@JohnGeometresMaximos Ali Ataies description is sufficient enough- 8 years after this came? Again contradicts aql use common sense
@@JohnGeometresMaximos as Ali ataie said, it could be referred to in the linguistic sense and you’re referring to it in its technical sense
Sheikh Paul you just stumbled on Ibn Taymia's position! How good! May Allah preserve you, Dr Ali and Muslim scholars past and present.
Ameen
AMEEN
The Quran itself shows that in all probability, the story of the satanic verses is true:
*Q**22:52*
“And We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that when he spoke [or recited], Satan threw into it [some misunderstanding]. But Allāh abolishes that which Satan throws in; then Allāh makes precise His verses. And Allāh is Knowing and Wise.”
- will you still then deny?
@@ScottyyyB96That translation is more direct, translating word for word.
To a scholar in Quran the verses connotation fits this translation better
"Whenever We sent a messenger or a prophet before you ˹O Prophet˺ and he recited ˹Our revelations˺, Satan would influence ˹people’s understanding of˺ his recitation. But ˹eventually˺ Allah would eliminate Satan’s influence. Then Allah would ˹firmly˺ establish His revelations. And Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise."
@@ScottyyyB96That translation is more direct, translating word for word.
To a scholar in Quran the verses connotation fits this translation better
"Whenever We sent a messenger or a prophet before you ˹O Prophet˺ and he recited ˹Our revelations˺, Satan would influence ˹people’s understanding of˺ his recitation. But ˹eventually˺ Allah would eliminate Satan’s influence. Then Allah would ˹firmly˺ establish His revelations. And Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise."
Superb discussion, perfectly timed given the recent events that transpired. Thank you Paul and Dr. Ataie!
The Quran itself shows that in all probability, the story of the satanic verses is true:
*Q**22:52*
“And We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that when he spoke [or recited], Satan threw into it [some misunderstanding]. But Allāh abolishes that which Satan throws in; then Allāh makes precise His verses. And Allāh is Knowing and Wise.”
- will you still then deny?
JazakAllah Khair for posting this brother Paul 👍🏻👌🏻
_May Allah ﷻ bless you both and reward you for your efforts._ 🤲🏻
Ameen.
Alhamdulillah
@@BloggingTheology
The story of the satanic verses is true not only because of the criterion of embarrassment, but mainly because your early scholars affirm that it happened.
al-Tabari's account is more than enough to demolish any of your objections. Additionally to that, the koran testifies it happened in 22.52.
Your false prophet bowed down and worshiped satan. You can dance around the fact all you want - it shall remain indisputable.
I challenge you to post a comprehensive list of ALL your scholars [up until 250 years AH] that rejected the truthfulness of this incident, and necessarily labeled al-Tabari and ibn-Hisham as blasphemers for including it in their writings.
@@JohnGeometresMaximos Lol a Christian prince fan. I saw Al Tabari explanation he said the story is unauthentic. Iam native Arabic speaker and I read the part about the satanic verses.
@@JohnGeometresMaximos Here is a video from an actual Sunni scholar in Islam. th-cam.com/video/xb6GGTsh5-8/w-d-xo.html
Dr Ali Ataie is a hidden gem. It's great to see that he's being platformed more. He really needs his own TH-cam channel.
This video comes in the right time 🙂👌We are Lucky to have both of you teaching us more and more interesting things 😊
Yes I was waiting for an explanation on this issue
It’s really unfortunate that people fabricated “verses” to advance their personal interests.
Thanks for the video, great information.
V true.
People weren't really bothered they listened to the wrong MEDEA that feed them with false information and the answer to this misconception made by this man can be resolved by asking the question.
Show us those verses and let us read them ourselves to form a decision. But people chose to believe him instead of questioning his integrity.
@@amarsahbi6439 media*
Yes, true. Incidentally, the first caliph also fabricated a hadiith to advance his own interest. I explain above here: th-cam.com/video/bIplkk05rd8/w-d-xo.html&lc=Ugy_Z16oa-YM_n3iaNl4AaABAg
@@ringgame thanks bro
Dr.Ali Ataie حفظہ اللہ Ocean of knowledge By ALLAH's grace
Today Allah SWT answers my prayer for Dr Ali to talk about Satanic Verses. JazakaLlah and Tq to both of you...
Thanks for making the du'a.
You must be very special that Allah answers your private prayers. In my home country ( Iraq) it is shortage of rain. They pray each and every Friday for rain 🌧 but Allah never answers them.
@@haran2560 God gives them work to do here in this dunya. Not the other way round.
@@haran2560 Read the story of Musa (As) where he, a prophet of God, did the prayer for rain but It didn't come. He asked Allah why, He said there's among the people 1 who has sinned, but not yet repented. The guy repented and then rain came. So, it doesn't matter how many times you do it, if you don't have imaan it won't help. Furthermore it has been answered several times, you can look it up.
@@googleenjoyer1503 I live in the UK now, no one prays for rain here , yet they are blessed with rain on a daily basis, isn't that weird !
May Allah weigh your words heavy on best of days and protect you both and all our scholars. Ameen
many thanks Zeeshan Mansoor!
@@noorjahan1333 most likely you're a bot so not even a real human. Your say don't count.
Thank you Paul for this enriching channel, wise respectful host, amazing knowledgeable guests, and fruitful discussions
Outstanding video thank you sir Paul and Dr Ali Atai keep it up ❤️
Yasir Qadhi's explanation is good too. Quite comprehensive and easy to understand
Yes it’s from 2011 or 12 I heard it on his Seerah podcast series just recently
Well, no. Yasir Quadhi presents it as legitimate, as in "look at these famous scholars who said this was real, I'm not saying it's real, but it could totally be real" which is just one of many things Yasir Quadhi says that are problematic. Anyway, if they are fabricated, and we are certain they are fabricated, that means they don't have any chance of being real. Meaning Yasir Quadhi either spoke of it without knowing that or he deliberately misrepresented the issue for some reason. It's either clearly fabricated or "it may have some truth to it because others believed it before", it cannot be both
THANK YOU PAUL, THANK YOU ALI....ALWAYS A PLEASURE LISTENING TO YOU GUYS.
I’ve been waiting so long to see you guys together again, I hope that you continue to do another one with our beloved professor on
Thank you brother Paul and Dr Ali for such insightful conversation. Jazakallah.
What an interesting lesson. Ya shaikh, you have transferred blogging theology one of the most important channel that discuses different science school of thoughts and your esteemed guests are well-versed in their specializations....Masha-Allah
truly outstanding, we need a transcript of this talk
Dr. Ali Ataie may Allah keep you strong in knowledge
I couldn't even recognize a beardless Paul, amazing how humans get so accustomed to a thing and quickly notice a difference.
May Allah SWT bless Dr Ali Atae love his knowledge of our beautiful deen and to Paul as well for introduced Dr. Ali to the whole wide viewers Masha Allah.
He seems to have trimmed his beard Astaghfirullah May God forgive him Inshallah
Thanks Paul (& Dr. Ali) for this timely and relevant video clarifying the alleged Satanic verses.
I'm waiting for this from you Paul. Jazakallahu
Thank you Dr Ali Altaie and Paul for bringing up this discussion at the write time. I came to know the real insight in this whole intriguing subject. جَزَاكَ ٱللَّٰهُ خَيْرًا
This channel can be just Dr Ali and I'd still come to watch whenever there's a new video
I, as a Muslim, am very proud of you Doctor Ali!
First time I’ve ever seen this brother but he broke things down beautifully and left no ways out for any opponent with such an argument.
BarakAllahu feekum
Brilliant video thanks for sharing Brother Paul 🙌
It was a wonderful show by two very intelligent Muslims. May Allah rewards them immensely. Ameen
I remember this, been a while huh. can't wait for more videos with Dr. Ali Ataie in them.
Very beneficial indeed! Thank you both!
Oh boy salaam alaikum wa Rahtullahi wa Barakatuh brother Paul 😄😄😄😄🥳🥳🥳 we're so glad to see you back on your live‼️ please tell me you've brought our respected and beloved Dr Ali Attaie 😳😳😳🌞🌞🌞😱😱😱😱. WALLAHI I've been wanting to see him again in another podcast‼️‼️‼️
It’s very interesting topic
Thank you for inviting Dr Ali Ataie🌹
Masha Allah. Well done brothers. We are proud to have scholars like you in the Ummah. Jazakum Allah.
Appreciate the re upload Paul
I hope you're day is going well 💗
Brother Paul, I’m so glad I did not waste my time on this subject the 1st time you published this topic (no disrespect just picking my priorities, appreciate all your hard work btw), till yesterday I had no idea who the author of this “book” nor what this is all about and so glad I’m still in that way, so many critical topics I’m ignorant about. May Allah Guide us all, ameen.
Masha Allah!
Brother Paul Williams and Dr Ali Ataie Jazakumu Allah kheyran.
It's been for a while to see You.
Thanks
Thank you both for uploading this amazing video that educates us how to answer such topics
I still can’t believe the guy wrote a whole book based on some fabricated story 🤡
@@OlrightOK what special about it is that islamophobes use that book against islam as if it’s a credible book based on a fact, a master piece for them hence make a 🤡 out of themselves
It was just a novel...A story! There are many novels based on flimsy history. It would've been insignificant if it wasn't for Khomeini's fatwa! That fatwa gave Salman Rushdie fame and career he would never have dreamed of. It propelled him into stardom. If Rushdie dies from this incident he will be considered a hero and martyr!
Well, orientalist literature is its own field of study. Genocides of indigenous were possible because the colonizers wrote fictional books to dehumanize the group of people they colonized. It is method used throughout history.
You all honestly believe this nonsense.🤡
Whose more of a clown? The person who created the book or the people triggered by the fabricated story so much they wish to kill the author. Even after 30+ years of the book being out.
just wonderful content! Highly intellectual. Thanks for that!
Thank you Paul and Ali for your educative take on Rusdie's bizarre attempt at fictional literature.
Great academic discussion. Many thanks for the enlightenment.
Paul...
I was long been waiting for the vedio..🙏🙏🙏👏👏👏
Jzk khair Paul. Really appreciate your work and efforts. ❤️
alhamdulillah
You have raised the bar in "podcasts" you deserve an Oscar for all your hard work.. Generally stopped listening to music in the gym... All I listen to is your podcasts...I actually found stuff to do around the house , so I can listen to your podcasts with earphones on
Wow, thank you!
I did this during cooking n folding cloth
@@mazidahmukhtar6071 I can't cook..maybe if I can I'll do the same
@@munn7bunnu811
Lol listen as you learn to cook
Thank you sir for having Dr Ali .. his explanations make sense.
Greetings from Morocco 🇲🇦
Alhamdulillah
Ali has blasted the Satanic Verses idea to outer space. just amazing. true intellect
Masha Allah love u both. An excellent discussion on the right time. ASWT bless u both and guide us all
Much respect for protecting the ummah from false claims & educating us. May Allah preserve you both 🤲🏾
Beautiful!! Thank you brother Paul for sharing!
Love Dr.Ataie's depth of knowledge and style ,always my favourite.
So sad that he hasn't been active with his activism in recent years.
What a talent.
Jazak Allah khair. I really appreciate the eloquent way to put this topic to rest. May Allah make you both prosper and accept your work in the deen.
4:02 directly hit the heart and broke it apart 💔
😭
Thank you for bringing a knowledgeable guest on the matter. Much appreciated
Very succinctly put and doubts if any laid to rest, and to be honest I didn't noticed about your beard but when some one pointed out, any way carry-on Paul and regards to Ali.
This was great information. BarakaAllhu feekoom.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
This story if true it actually proves the sincerity of the prophet because why would he not exploit the pagans through verses like these when according to the story they believed in him after the verse ?
Why would he chose to remain on monotheism when he and his companions would be persecuted ?
This was to be the peak of his power why would he give that power up for monotheism ?
They will try literally everything they can to tarsh the image of the Prophet Muhammad SAW not realising Allah has preserved his honour and in the day of judgement he is the praised one and will be praised upon when mankind will be shaking in fear of what's to come
The prophet Muhammad pbuh was offered power and fame and wealth and declined
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Haha I just watched the original video on your channel of this just last night from a year or so ago.
Dear Dr. Ali, your service for Islam is significant for today’s Muslim ummah.
..thank you sir ❤️❤️❤️
Great video! ❤❤❤
Dr Attaee is my favourite scholar. May Allah bless you both.
Discussing about a particular religion or about any religious figure in a proper manner from reliable sources should have no issues, but making up things just to hurt others is totally different. This person did exactly that and got what he called for. And don't lecture us to become a spineless community where nobody stands up for nothing, where you can walk the road wearing a T-shirt saying "Jesus is g**" when He never was!
LMAO nice reference, friend !
That’s more like it...
I have a shirt that says "Muhammad was a Semen-stained possessed man who was given to revelation from the devil which is called the Quran"... I would wear I front of you and YOU would do absolutely nothing akhi! Nothing! I would also urinate on the Quran in front of you and YOU would do nothing!!!... So don't talk big, especially when you openly support terrorism.
These people think we will condemn it😂😂😂 dont lie about islam point blank.
@@frap9965 Exactly! Why should we when they honor him with knighthood?
Superb deconstruction of the calumny against the Messenger ﷺ and the Qur’an. ما شاء الله
We are blessed to have this brother in our ranks. Thank you, Paul, for hosting him.
🌹لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله🌹
Thank you both for this short great video with in depth criticism of the so called Satanic Verses
Wonderful work Dr. Ali
Amazing 👏 knowledge displayed by Dr Ali. 😊. May Allah swt bless you both.
Masha'allah well explained .
Salman the apostating liar spent majority of his life in hiding and fear for writing falsehood in order to sell it and gain popularity. I pray that Allah guides him
The ending statement of brother ali is priceless. Quran will take care of itself, no lie can approach it from any side. It defends itself from the beginning of its revelation until the hour is established. It is a majestic book and a criteria between truth and falsehood
He spent his Life hiding BECAUSE ..... muslims wanted to kill him cause Islam IS a medioeval,barbarian religión not for writing falsehood.
Amen
Also, may the court will lessen the punishment for the man who stabbed him
@@TheConservativeHippie may Rusdhi get The Nobel prize and his novel The sataniv verses IS already selling millions now thanks to The publicity of The stabbing....Muslims got It wrong again😂
@@joemacarra something tells me you are a Jew or a Zionist Xtian. Because the Zionists get pleasure dividing people and spreading hatred instead of finding similarities and common ground. I once gave a Quran to an orthodox Rabbi and later after reading it he converted to Islam
*Anyone who would insult the Prophet (sallallahu `alayhi wasallam) would NOT be a Muslim*
Wisdom & intellect mashallah
Good time to upload and make things clear.
Plus
These invented verses should have been placed right after verses 19-20 which mention the idols, but we find that the prostration mark appears in the last verse (62) of the chapter that says:
So prostrate yourselves to Allah and worship!
*The prophet never stopped reciting until he finished the entire chapter*
i did sed that response in another video. Prostate to Allaah and worship him. The object here is Allaah. And after the so called satanic verses, the whole surah then goes on to insulting their gods. It just doesn't then add up that the prophet would prostate to pagan gods as a direct result.
May Allah bless you both. May Allah protect Dr Ataie and increase him in knowledge.Ameen!
Thank you Dr.Ali Ataie. You make us Muslims proud ❤
Dear Paul, It would be interesting to have Roy Casangranda as your guest for historical subject.
What I don't get is how on earth did a man armed with knife pass the security? And how did attacker post about this on FB when they have an AI that IMMEDIATELY flags posts about Gaza /Hamas or against LGTV, but let this guy post to his heart content. Search Google for Rushdie's location, then arriving at the scene , pass the security with a knife.
Let's be honest, nobody's heard Salman Rushdie's name perhaps in decades. Onky a few articles about him a few months ago for some reason. He's 75 years of age.The Iranians gov actually made this guy popular. They've done far far worse in term of insulting Quran, the ahadeeth and the sahaba! It's a joke. The endgame is to use this guy as a symbol against Islamic extremism. Nobody's gonna care the assailant who's American citizen, is pro-Iran, pro Solemani & pro-Khomeini. Rushdie could've died died at 76 and be forgotten. But this attack serves the secular liberalists agenda as well as the far rights.
Inside security services trying to inflame the hate towards Islam.
Exactly . I think the whole thing was a conspiracy.
@Brother asked a very good question Has it been read and memorized by billions?
@Brother asked a very good question The Quran is the most memorised book in human history facts can't be disputed. You just a good slave for J News.
Muhammad broke all of the ten commandments. Was it satan who was in the cave with Muhammad? Not gibrail.
Because when ever a angel came to a human they was scared at first then felt at piece...Muhammad was a scared shaking unit the entirety let Muhammad go, Muhammad ran home to his wife shouting and crying I've seen shaitan in the cave...now tell me if that sounds like gibrail or shaitan?
You are both great scholars ; great analysis
As always, amazing😍!
Because you show me the Importance of real scholars and why we dhpulmed be left to our own biases! Ever! Seeking knowledge is must not a luxury and this touches on the human psyhce too! It is incredible اللهم لك الحمد 🤲
Thank you
Thanks for highlighting this br paul
JazakAllahu khairan
Thank you brother Paul, brother Ali. this is so informative
May Allah bless you both..
Absolutely brilliant! ❤ such deep discussions. Thank u very much!
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 📜 Analysis of the Christian contention regarding Deuteronomy 18:20
02:00 🧐 The Story of the Satanic Verses
05:45 💡 Interpretations and Rebuttals of the Satanic Verses
08:29 📚 The Role of Fabrication in Religious Texts
11:51 🔍 Applying Textual Criticism to the Satanic Verses
14:44 📖 Prophet Muhammad as the Best Candidate for Deuteronomy 18:20
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Dear Paul, thank you for all the efforts you are doing. May Allah save your heart and reward you. May I ask you to create a website where we can found these topic Witten Thank you.
The curse of the entire Muslim made Salman Rushdie hence this condition. If anyone stand against almighty Allah Azwajjal and his prophets their condition would be like this. Yah Allah forgive our sins and make us the best people among the worst. Ameen yah rabbul alamin 🤲
Isn't hell enough for every falsifying liar.
@@saidhashi2856 isn't hell enough for a murderer or a rapist ?
@@saidhashi2856 indeed it's enough
بارك الله فيكم.
I think there are 2 issues on these "satanic" verses: a) If there several early sources saying the same thing from the early Muslim era, can we simply dismiss that? b) Just because a later verse says the Prophet could not have fallen victim, so to say, to the 'satans verses', does not automatically mean that the original event did not happen.
The satanic verses story is so stupid it's hard to think anyone would take it seriously. The idea satan whispers to a prophet to say something wrong is clearly a Christian type of legend. Isn't there something about Jesus in the wilderness? As as Muslim I do not believe any prophet of God has ever been tempted or controlled by Satan or anything else.
@@sparephone8228 For at least 150 odd years it WAS taken seriously by the early Muslims. It was only after a few hundred years that Muslims realised how very embarrassing this episode was and decided one option (widely followed) is to deny this even happened in the first place. However, documented records exist demonstrating that the episode, however embarrassing, actually happened. Therefore, as mush as you wish, the satanic verses story is not stupid at all. Just embarrassing. People (Muslims) have to accept that.
@@dollishillwork No satanic verse incident took place. The story is so stupid and contradicts all the inner evidence of the Qur'aan. Secondly it just seems as Dr Ali said, someone made up the story for a 'tafseer' commentry for one of the verses of the Qur'aan. Thirdly it does seem it was borrowed from Christian ideas about Jessus[pbuh] in the wilderness [something Muslims do not believe]. As with all these stupid hadiths, an analysis of the links in the chain of narraotors will reveal obvious flaws. Have you not even noticed all the Qur'aan fragments from the first 30 years of Islam have no 'satanic verses'? Hard evidence cannot be contradicted by a story that appears over 100 years lateror when ever it appeared. Another point, satan in Islamic theology is the eternal tempeter, not someone who takes over a person, again Christian mythology of exorcism etc
a) yes we can dismiss it. the chains are weak or disconnected (it's not coming from witnesses and they might all go back to a single source who spread some rumours and the story developed by many retellings).
b) the opposite also is not true.
These verses doesn't match up with the rest of surahs. So it may have not been a part of it. Pretty sure you are just biased so you are trying to push it as true.
@@cowdyayaad6378 If one diminishes the Hadiths, especially the Sahih ones, one utterly diminishes Islam itself. As simple as that.
Much needed video . Thank you Sir.
Dr. Ataie, many thanks, you made this point cristal clear for me ☺
Paul, you're relentless 🙂
Wish you both be blessed by Allah.
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Isaiah 42?
Please
I like this explanation. It makes sense. I came upon the verses in surat al Hajj in Ramadan and the explanation for it disturbed me. I asked Allah to find an answer for this and let it go. Dr Ali’s answer is very acceptable as an explanation on why the Satanic verses story exists.