The M9 Bayonet is definitely my choice for a survival knife. This knife will be here long after I'm gone. It's very easy to sharpen, field strip, and clean. If your breaking the tang on an M9, your using it for the wrong reasons. It wasn't designed to be tortured every time it's used. It's already been through torture tests. This is why it was selected.
Unfortunately, now that Ontario Knife Company was sold, and all the old stock is being sold off, the OKC 3S is now like $260! Even the M9 is like $250, and that thing is a POS.
I'd add the Glock FM 78 or FM 81. Very cheap, sturdy and dependable. I have the FM 81 (it has a saw back, 78 doesn't) and I like it very much. Long, comfortable handle, good bent metal guard advertised for opening ammo boxes and bottles (works very well on bottles); very long spring steel blade and a nice tip. Saw is more of a notching tool than a saw and works on push, not pull, so I don't like it that much. It's also very light.
Having used one to dispatch and butcher a deer I can thoroughly recommend the Swedish m1896.they can be found sharpened and take a razor edge,while a little long for cleaning out a deer carcass,they definitely do the job.back in the 80s a survival magazine in the UK ran a competition to see who could produce the best survival knife conversion,which the tubular hilt lends it's self to
The M9 is a available as the M11 Knife and the M7 is available as the M3 knife. Factory made M11 are more expensive than the current M9. M3 are currently made by OKC. M9’s are currently made by OKC too. US Army M9 have an incredibly low failure rate at the tang, under 1%. The design is very strong. Edit: OKC also makes 2 knives similar to the Marine Bayonet. The Sp 6 and Chimera. ✌️
@@pointynotsharp8436 I am not trolling. Honest question. you said it’s prone to snapping at the tang. Buck claims they received only 6 or some ridiculously low number of returns due to tang snapping out of the 350k they made. Can you share your experience with them snapping? What happened to the bayonets? Are these the few failure they are talking about. I have searched TH-cam and the internet and have not found any photos, videos or even first hand accounts of M9 Bayonets made by Buck/Phrobis failing at the tang. A few had too failures in its prototype forms. I do not think, correct me if I am wrong Australian Army purchased any other than Buck manufacturer M9. Ps: I too was in the Army and did not care for the M9. My dislike was definitely not because of tang failures. Additionally I did see one picture of 1 M9 with a broken tang but it wasn’t a Buck/Phrobis. I couldn’t tell who made it and it may not have been an issue item at all but rather a knockoff.
@@MrJoshDoty in all honesty I was speaking of a single one snap I saw that was run over by a land rover. Very anecdotal I guess and not normal wear and tear
@@pointynotsharp8436 👍thanks! You are the first person I have asked that has actually seen one break at the tang. Not that I have asked all that many. When I was in 25 plus years ago it was a “known fact” that they broke “left and right.” So much so they weren’t issued to the individual soldiers. Yet nobody had actually seen one. Fast forward I have gone down the rabbit hole on the M9 and read about how they were designed & tested. My negative opinion on them has to do with the weight and discomfort associated with carrying a boat anchor. I really like your channel. Very informative. Peace!
Greetings from the Florida everglades. In my opinion, a bayonet that is also a good choice as a camping knife is the Spanish CETME M1964. its got a good belly for chopping, strong spine for batoning, nice heel for wood work or food prep and the pommel can be use as a hammer for small tasks. In addition, the handle and scabbard are weather proof material . I've used it. have a great day, God bless.
I know it is probably cost prohibitive for this list but the Eickhorn CAN 2005 is hands down my favorite for the woods. Carried and beat on mine for literal years. It was also the model that the USMC wanted before politics dictated the model you have there.
@@pointynotsharp8436 there was a small batch that was sold as surplus here in Canada a few years back but other than that you are correct in that they are pricey direct from Eickhorn. I won't ever part with mine, it is a proven tool.
I second the Glock knife. I’ve got a 78, I love that it doubles as a throwing knife. Not sure if all bayonets do, or how practical it is to THROW your tool lol but still fun. Great video buddy!
Kalashnikov and Armalite bayos will probably not be good throwing knives, especially not the AK ones since they break in half from throwing like a throwing knife. Bayonets were meant to stab, not throw into the enemy.
If you want to use a bayonet as a camping knife the US M5 Korean War era Garand bayonet makes a great camping knife. Because the M5 does not have a muzzle ring it’s less intimidating to other campers. But you still get the old M3 blade.
I carry the Yugoslav M48 as a “camping” knife. I was able to get it in a quite ugly condition, the muzzle ring was bent, the scabbard was all dinged up, the original blueing was long gone and there were some surface rust spots. So I cleaned it up, re blued it (mainly for rust protection, because with the aftermath of rusting, I ain’t convincing anyone) and made a new frog for it. It holds a reasonable edge but I’ve sharpened it only lightly and I use it sparingly (to cut thin branches in my way, open food packs etc. I mainly carry it for self defence/novelty reasons and also because I just love bayonets 😁. For more extensive “bushcrafting” like carving, preparing food or firewood I use the Czechoslovakian UTON knife because those were designed for these activities. Since we’ve had the Vz.58 as our bayonet (which was a good fighting knife and bayonet but not much more), our soldiers also needed something to use for utilitarian purposes and that’s what UTONs were made for. They’re sharp, they hold an edge well the handle is ergonomic and there are multiple accessories (saw, file, paracord) tucked inside the sheath. They are still being manufactured for commercial use by the same company, Mikov (the quality is the same and they have specific markings to distinguish them from the originals, much like the Glocks) so you don’t have to worry about damaging a historical piece. For anyone looking for a nice fighting/utility knife that is light, handy and less clunky than the AK or M9, I would definitely recommend checking out the UTON.
@@pointynotsharp8436 I’m glad to hear that 😁. If you would be interested in any other information regarding the UTON (predecessors, original or commercial production variants etc.) just let me know. We have a quite detailed website dedicated to the knives of our army but it’s mainly in Czech.
Yeah, I saw a sweet NOS conetta M7 not too long ago. The bulgarian and russian 6X4 red/orange polymer bayo's seem to be drying up in the U.S. with everything happening in the world, prices on those are going ^ pretty high.
I just came back across this video. I have picked up a Glock knife. It’s absolutely amazing for how cheap. Supposedly a bayonet for an Austrian made rifle. But give it a look.
Generally speaking, bayonets make poor knives. As far as hunting and or camping knives, there are so many affordable options. I've never seen a bayonet that is a suitable for use as a hunting knife. Just because of size. Any knife used when hunting needs to be able to be used for field dressing game. Ideally that's a blade between 3.5" and 5" I couldn't disagree more on the M9. The steel is rubbish 420 stainless. Because of the blade thickness, The edge bevels are too steep for any useful food prep tasks. It's short weak tang makes it a particularly bad choice for processing wood for fire making. In general it's a poor knife for field tasks. No bayonets are designed ergonomically for field tasks. They are tools designed for thrusting and stabbing, not chopping and slicing.
I had an M7S that I bought at a hock shop in Queensland in 2006 for about $120. I absolutely loved that knife. It was practical, stayed razor sharp, and got a shitload of use. That was until my idiot mate borrowed it, and totally trashed it. I got it back literally in pieces. NEVER lend your good shit to ANYONE, no matter how you trust them! Another mate stole my Gerber BMF, too. ARSEHOLE!
I wanna ask where do you buy your bayonets in Australia? Im planning to get one of these M7 bayonets and bring it back to Hk, would it be possible ? thanks
@@pointynotsharp8436 Last time I saw a Pindad for sale it was $200.00. I just couldn't pay that for the Indonesian M7. With the exception of the earliest OD green Colt made M7s, I wouldn't pay that much for any M7.
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The M9 Bayonet is definitely my choice for a survival knife. This knife will be here long after I'm gone. It's very easy to sharpen, field strip, and clean. If your breaking the tang on an M9, your using it for the wrong reasons. It wasn't designed to be tortured every time it's used. It's already been through torture tests. This is why it was selected.
Another pretty decent budget option is a glock knife, pretty similar to the m7. It can also be put on the Aug ar. Its not bad
The m9 was ok but the OKC 3s is an awesome tool
Unfortunately, now that Ontario Knife Company was sold, and all the old stock is being sold off, the OKC 3S is now like $260! Even the M9 is like $250, and that thing is a POS.
As an okc3s owner, they take a razors edge, work good as a knife, and a really effective bayonet
Thanks for the heads up on the Yugoslav ….It will be a nice addition to my collection.
Iam American 🇺🇸 I bought two M16a4s FN collector edition I’ve got a couple Ontario USMC bayonets for them love em
Hey, if you’re interested, royal tiger imports has a unique M7 bayonet I think it was designed for the HK 33 just giving you a heads up
I'd add the Glock FM 78 or FM 81. Very cheap, sturdy and dependable. I have the FM 81 (it has a saw back, 78 doesn't) and I like it very much. Long, comfortable handle, good bent metal guard advertised for opening ammo boxes and bottles (works very well on bottles); very long spring steel blade and a nice tip. Saw is more of a notching tool than a saw and works on push, not pull, so I don't like it that much. It's also very light.
Having used one to dispatch and butcher a deer I can thoroughly recommend the Swedish m1896.they can be found sharpened and take a razor edge,while a little long for cleaning out a deer carcass,they definitely do the job.back in the 80s a survival magazine in the UK ran a competition to see who could produce the best survival knife conversion,which the tubular hilt lends it's self to
The M9 is a available as the M11 Knife and the M7 is available as the M3 knife. Factory made M11 are more expensive than the current M9. M3 are currently made by OKC. M9’s are currently made by OKC too. US Army M9 have an incredibly low failure rate at the tang, under 1%. The design is very strong.
Edit: OKC also makes 2 knives similar to the Marine Bayonet. The Sp 6 and Chimera.
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Thanks for the great info, I had no idea
@@pointynotsharp8436 I am not trolling. Honest question. you said it’s prone to snapping at the tang. Buck claims they received only 6 or some ridiculously low number of returns due to tang snapping out of the 350k they made. Can you share your experience with them snapping? What happened to the bayonets? Are these the few failure they are talking about. I have searched TH-cam and the internet and have not found any photos, videos or even first hand accounts of M9 Bayonets made by Buck/Phrobis failing at the tang. A few had too failures in its prototype forms. I do not think, correct me if I am wrong Australian Army purchased any other than Buck manufacturer M9.
Ps: I too was in the Army and did not care for the M9. My dislike was definitely not because of tang failures. Additionally I did see one picture of 1 M9 with a broken tang but it wasn’t a Buck/Phrobis. I couldn’t tell who made it and it may not have been an issue item at all but rather a knockoff.
@@MrJoshDoty in all honesty I was speaking of a single one snap I saw that was run over by a land rover. Very anecdotal I guess and not normal wear and tear
@@pointynotsharp8436 👍thanks! You are the first person I have asked that has actually seen one break at the tang. Not that I have asked all that many. When I was in 25 plus years ago it was a “known fact” that they broke “left and right.” So much so they weren’t issued to the individual soldiers. Yet nobody had actually seen one. Fast forward I have gone down the rabbit hole on the M9 and read about how they were designed & tested. My negative opinion on them has to do with the weight and discomfort associated with carrying a boat anchor.
I really like your channel. Very informative. Peace!
@@MrJoshDoty thanks, just out of curiosity, it sounds like you have some awesome knowledge. Do you know any good books on the M9?
Greetings from the Florida everglades. In my opinion, a bayonet that is also a good choice as a camping knife is the Spanish CETME M1964. its got a good belly for chopping, strong spine for batoning, nice heel for wood work or food prep and the pommel can be use as a hammer for small tasks. In addition, the handle and scabbard are weather proof material . I've used it. have a great day, God bless.
I know it is probably cost prohibitive for this list but the Eickhorn CAN 2005 is hands down my favorite for the woods.
Carried and beat on mine for literal years. It was also the model that the USMC wanted before politics dictated the model you have there.
I need one of those bad, hard to source an actual issued one. Definitely a bit expensive for now but they look fantastic
@@pointynotsharp8436 there was a small batch that was sold as surplus here in Canada a few years back but other than that you are correct in that they are pricey direct from Eickhorn. I won't ever part with mine, it is a proven tool.
I second the Glock knife. I’ve got a 78, I love that it doubles as a throwing knife. Not sure if all bayonets do, or how practical it is to THROW your tool lol but still fun. Great video buddy!
Kalashnikov and Armalite bayos will probably not be good throwing knives, especially not the AK ones since they break in half from throwing like a throwing knife. Bayonets were meant to stab, not throw into the enemy.
Great top 5...I like the yugo one 👏
If you want to use a bayonet as a camping knife the US M5 Korean War era Garand bayonet makes a great camping knife. Because the M5 does not have a muzzle ring it’s less intimidating to other campers. But you still get the old M3 blade.
Very underrated bayonet!
I carry the Yugoslav M48 as a “camping” knife. I was able to get it in a quite ugly condition, the muzzle ring was bent, the scabbard was all dinged up, the original blueing was long gone and there were some surface rust spots. So I cleaned it up, re blued it (mainly for rust protection, because with the aftermath of rusting, I ain’t convincing anyone) and made a new frog for it. It holds a reasonable edge but I’ve sharpened it only lightly and I use it sparingly (to cut thin branches in my way, open food packs etc. I mainly carry it for self defence/novelty reasons and also because I just love bayonets 😁. For more extensive “bushcrafting” like carving, preparing food or firewood I use the Czechoslovakian UTON knife because those were designed for these activities. Since we’ve had the Vz.58 as our bayonet (which was a good fighting knife and bayonet but not much more), our soldiers also needed something to use for utilitarian purposes and that’s what UTONs were made for. They’re sharp, they hold an edge well the handle is ergonomic and there are multiple accessories (saw, file, paracord) tucked inside the sheath. They are still being manufactured for commercial use by the same company, Mikov (the quality is the same and they have specific markings to distinguish them from the originals, much like the Glocks) so you don’t have to worry about damaging a historical piece. For anyone looking for a nice fighting/utility knife that is light, handy and less clunky than the AK or M9, I would definitely recommend checking out the UTON.
You have inspired me to get a UTON 😅
@@pointynotsharp8436 I’m glad to hear that 😁. If you would be interested in any other information regarding the UTON (predecessors, original or commercial production variants etc.) just let me know. We have a quite detailed website dedicated to the knives of our army but it’s mainly in Czech.
Really great video! Thanks!
Very interesting!
I tell anyone that will listen to buy AK bayonets. Lots of them. The Marine Bayo is sweet. Great list. There are still NOS M7s floating around.
Yeah, I saw a sweet NOS conetta M7 not too long ago. The bulgarian and russian 6X4 red/orange polymer bayo's seem to be drying up in the U.S. with everything happening in the world, prices on those are going ^ pretty high.
I just came back across this video. I have picked up a Glock knife. It’s absolutely amazing for how cheap. Supposedly a bayonet for an Austrian made rifle. But give it a look.
I have the M7 and OKC-3s, have nothing but good things to say about them and i mount them to my AR15 while hog hunting.
OKC 3S for the win
Generally speaking, bayonets make poor knives. As far as hunting and or camping knives, there are so many affordable options.
I've never seen a bayonet that is a suitable for use as a hunting knife. Just because of size. Any knife used when hunting needs to be able to be used for field dressing game. Ideally that's a blade between 3.5" and 5"
I couldn't disagree more on the M9. The steel is rubbish 420 stainless. Because of the blade thickness, The edge bevels are too steep for any useful food prep tasks. It's short weak tang makes it a particularly bad choice for processing wood for fire making.
In general it's a poor knife for field tasks.
No bayonets are designed ergonomically for field tasks. They are tools designed for thrusting and stabbing, not chopping and slicing.
I had an M7S that I bought at a hock shop in Queensland in 2006 for about $120. I absolutely loved that knife. It was practical, stayed razor sharp, and got a shitload of use. That was until my idiot mate borrowed it, and totally trashed it. I got it back literally in pieces. NEVER lend your good shit to ANYONE, no matter how you trust them! Another mate stole my Gerber BMF, too. ARSEHOLE!
I wanna ask where do you buy your bayonets in Australia? Im planning to get one of these M7 bayonets and bring it back to Hk, would it be possible ? thanks
Mainly on ebay, but there are a few online sellers like cleaver firearms and Lawrence ordnance
what about the earlier period longer bayonets?
Mate where in Australia can you get those ak bayonets for $40???
When I filmed this, Claremont firearms. I'm not sure if they still have them
@@pointynotsharp8436 Thanks for the info
I’ve got my Okc3s in the us new by okc for about 130
Indonesian Pindad M7s are rare and stupid expensive in the states. As is that Aussie M10 camo scabbard.
Indonesian Pindad M7s are $4 in Indonesia but its impossible to export knives
@@pointynotsharp8436 Last time I saw a Pindad for sale it was $200.00. I just couldn't pay that for the Indonesian M7. With the exception of the earliest OD green Colt made M7s, I wouldn't pay that much for any M7.
Where can I get one at the USMC
How do you modify the Glock knife to become a bayonet?
Supposedly the butt cap is removed and fitted to a certain Austrian rifle
Listening to the intro and thinking of all the stupid things I did to M7 & M9’s over the years. I guess destroying them on deployment doesn’t count.
Please people for the same money you can buy a nice hunting/camp knife🤣leave these in the display cabinet.
I second this sentiment
this is 5 best looking bayonets. Best for camping ? Not so much.
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Bayonets are not great camping knives