A bayonet sends a message to your opponent that you're willing to take it to that level, which is what the Marines wanted to communicate to the entrenched insurgents in Fallujah.
Marines are the only branch that still actively train with the bayonet. They do so for psychological intimidation purposes rather than any real practical or tactical reasons.
@@RockandrollNegro I was 2nd Marine Division 2005-2009. You're wrong. Anything we train in is for REAL practical and tactical reasons...not just to psych the enemy out. We're Marines. We don't need anything but ourselves to do that lol. One attack on an Army base in Afghanistan was haulted in its tracks when they raised a Marine flag over the base. There were very real, practical, and tactical Marine bayonet charges as recent as the Iraq war. I believe some British soldiers had one in Afghanistan. We actually still train with and learn to how to fight with bayonets as a portion of the MCMAP program. If it was all just for show then the bayonets would be much cheaper made of wood and painted black. Trust me, the Marine Corps doesn't get much but what we do get we USE. 😉
@@pennsyltuckyreb9800 I was assigned to 1st Mar div 1st battalion as an 0621 for an infantry platoon i have a sick sense of humor but infantry guys were bloodthirsty and legit crazy i would have paid to watch them use a bayonet on an insurgent🤙Semper fidelis
There is at least one well documented instance of a Marine killing an insurgent in Fallujah with this bayonet fixed on his M16A4. It is probably the best bayonet the US military has ever fielded. I was issued the M9 in the US Army and I hate the damn thing - anyone that ever tried to actually use one to do a simple task or was forced to carry one along with all the other shit we carried probably feels the same.
We were issued these from the armory and as knives go they were pretty cool, but when we got in country we were given benchmade nimravus knives and they were significantly better. In afghan the need for a bayonet isn't very high, so the added weight for what it offered wasn't usually worth it. I know a few people that carried them. The benchmades though... fantastic.
@@levig6375 you won't get a card for them until you deploy, and then it's a 50/50 depending on what you do. I don't think non-combat arms takes their out.
@@MikeB-ng3ol I didn't get the luxury of a good deployment I got adseped 2 years in but dam if the bayonet wernt fucking badass cool fact about the Benchmade knives too
@@MikeB-ng3olI picked one up with a #129 on the scabbard and a #79 on the loop that wrapped around the bottom of the scabbard. Does this mean they were issued in your opinion?
I got one of these from a milsurp store a couple years ago, its a great knife, it attaches perfectly to my AR ever since i got a lug adapter on it, and its good to see that i made a good financial decision when buying it 😅
I just recently bought a military issued okc3s bayonet should arrive before Christmas cannot wait to check it out ! I really enjoyed your video great job! The military issued okc3s bayonet are not coming down in price I paid $145 for mine hopefully the price will come down I would like to buy a m4 to attach the bayonet on that would be very cool!.
I would like to see what Ontario did for the K Bar knife, put the other branches of service names on it not just for USMC. Former 11b just throwing his two cents in.
I threw it in my camelbak because I was required to carry it! Haha. Good piece of gear though, if I ever needed to use it I knew I had the best one. They're so pricey but I believe OKC is out of business so I might buy one, The frog is absolutely excellent, can wear it on your pants belt or even upside down on the back of your plate carrier
100% I got a factory second, one of the claws was stiff. A bit of oil and it was like new, the factory seconds are fantastic value. I actually did a short about them
Coat it in Ballistol (both blade and handle; Ballistol is safe for metal, plastic, leather and wood), give it a few minutes to penetrate, then wipe clean.
It seems rather questionable this should have any patentable elements, basically being a kabar that can be mounted to a riffle, and even knife converted to bayonet is not new either. On top of that military patents are notoriously difficult to get enforced.
Im looking for hand to hand combat knife and find this in my local online store. Is this good for hand to hand or self-defence purpose? it's expensive to buy an actual combat knife from US cuz the shipment
I think a good bayonet is the M9. Shiny complex, seems sturdy and frightening. A black bayonet cannot be seen. But if it is mirror-polished, then it is double-frightening...
@@pointynotsharp8436 the Czech bayonets like the Bren or the newest mk1 are good steel and look outstanding. I wouldnt mind using them as knoives but the price is not right for me
It's a full length stick tang construction just like the older USMC Kabars, except MUCH thicker and beefier stick tang. Not sure if the OKC3s is pinned like the Kabars at the pommel but you can visually see the tang at the bottom and it's peened. The older Kabars are not peened at the bottom, just pinned. This "updated Kabar" is built like a tank and can take a lot of abuse. Trust me. My biggest gripe is the blade geometry is crappy for it to be a good slicer. Even cutting back the angle of the primary bevel edge it still isn't the best for that. It's more geared towards stabbing. And the aggressive serrations will cut most anything quickly so not a big issue on the slicing geometry. It is a combat knife/bayonet. It's not designed for arts and crafts. But it'll do all sorts of arts and crafts on the skulls of your enemies.
From the manual: “Ontario Knife OKC 3S Multi-Purpose Bayonet/Knife System NSN:1095-01-521-6087 MilSpec Gear 866-577-2987” “The bayonet/knife should be inserted into scabbard with one strap snapped around the grip and the other strap over the cross guard so that the cross guard strap goes over the muzzle ring.” Supposedly to keep from cutting off the strap
It's an ambidextrous sheath so you can stick it in either way and the cross strap will hold fine both ways. The cross strap is large enough and long enough that when you unbutton it, even if the knife is in "right-handed" the strap gets out the way and you won't run the risk of slicing the cross strap. It has the double straps to be "jump ready."
A bayonet sends a message to your opponent that you're willing to take it to that level, which is what the Marines wanted to communicate to the entrenched insurgents in Fallujah.
Marines are the only branch that still actively train with the bayonet. They do so for psychological intimidation purposes rather than any real practical or tactical reasons.
@@RockandrollNegro I was 2nd Marine Division 2005-2009. You're wrong. Anything we train in is for REAL practical and tactical reasons...not just to psych the enemy out. We're Marines. We don't need anything but ourselves to do that lol.
One attack on an Army base in Afghanistan was haulted in its tracks when they raised a Marine flag over the base.
There were very real, practical, and tactical Marine bayonet charges as recent as the Iraq war. I believe some British soldiers had one in Afghanistan.
We actually still train with and learn to how to fight with bayonets as a portion of the MCMAP program. If it was all just for show then the bayonets would be much cheaper made of wood and painted black. Trust me, the Marine Corps doesn't get much but what we do get we USE. 😉
@@RockandrollNegro We train to use them, and issue them because they are effective. No one gives a fuck about the psychological intimidation factor.
@@pennsyltuckyreb9800 I was assigned to 1st Mar div 1st battalion as an 0621 for an infantry platoon i have a sick sense of humor but infantry guys were bloodthirsty and legit crazy i would have paid to watch them use a bayonet on an insurgent🤙Semper fidelis
I installed this on my Mossberg 590A1 just because. The OKC bayonet was served with a court ordered TRO filed by the Mossberg the next morning.
Carried one in combat for years. Never used it for fighting, but I used it for damn near everything else. Fantastic knife.
I was issued this bayonet in 2004. Big improvement on the last one
The m7 was fine but I agree this one is indeed an improvement the m9 bayonet was just garbage though
There is at least one well documented instance of a Marine killing an insurgent in Fallujah with this bayonet fixed on his M16A4. It is probably the best bayonet the US military has ever fielded. I was issued the M9 in the US Army and I hate the damn thing - anyone that ever tried to actually use one to do a simple task or was forced to carry one along with all the other shit we carried probably feels the same.
Agree'd. The M7 was better. The Marines have the best bayonet, which makes sense.
I gotta get me one of these. Somehow I only have US bayonets that are 50+ yrs old despite being American 🤔 Keep up the good work!
They're coming down in price. I'm tempted to buy a crate of them
We were issued these from the armory and as knives go they were pretty cool, but when we got in country we were given benchmade nimravus knives and they were significantly better. In afghan the need for a bayonet isn't very high, so the added weight for what it offered wasn't usually worth it. I know a few people that carried them. The benchmades though... fantastic.
The Benchmade is far more useful. Yes, the bayonet is very heavy.
I think they're just bootcamp knives now the only time I was issued one was at Parris island
@@levig6375 you won't get a card for them until you deploy, and then it's a 50/50 depending on what you do. I don't think non-combat arms takes their out.
@@MikeB-ng3ol I didn't get the luxury of a good deployment I got adseped 2 years in but dam if the bayonet wernt fucking badass cool fact about the Benchmade knives too
@@MikeB-ng3olI picked one up with a #129 on the scabbard and a #79 on the loop that wrapped around the bottom of the scabbard. Does this mean they were issued in your opinion?
I have the OKC USMC bayonet for my M590A1 and didn't know about the honing rod feature! Thx!
I got one of these from a milsurp store a couple years ago, its a great knife, it attaches perfectly to my AR ever since i got a lug adapter on it, and its good to see that i made a good financial decision when buying it 😅
Finally got one of these after putting it off for various reasons. Quite a bit lighter than I expected. Great video.
For such a big tough blade, it's not too heavy
I just recently bought a military issued okc3s bayonet should arrive before Christmas cannot wait to check it out !
I really enjoyed your video great job! The military issued okc3s bayonet are not coming down in price I paid $145 for mine hopefully the price will come down I would like to buy a m4 to attach the bayonet on that would be very cool!.
they are worth every penny, a good solid fighting / utility knife that can be used as a bayonet
Where did u buy it from ?
That's awesome knife 🗡!!!!!
Good video, just got an unissued one today. Cut myself cleaning it, like a razor. Mines got the exact same markings as that.
Unbelievably sharp!
I would like to see what Ontario did for the K Bar knife, put the other branches of service names on it not just for USMC. Former 11b just throwing his two cents in.
Rakkasans!
I threw it in my camelbak because I was required to carry it! Haha. Good piece of gear though, if I ever needed to use it I knew I had the best one. They're so pricey but I believe OKC is out of business so I might buy one, The frog is absolutely excellent, can wear it on your pants belt or even upside down on the back of your plate carrier
Got a nice army issue example coming and have the civilian version they r an awesome knife.
It also fits on a Mossberg 590A1.
As an m7 user I gotta say distinct improvement...
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t long last got hold of one and hopefully delivery in the next 2 weeks...
I picked mine up as a “factory second”. Couldn’t find the blemish. You can nail someone to a tree with it.
100% I got a factory second, one of the claws was stiff. A bit of oil and it was like new, the factory seconds are fantastic value. I actually did a short about them
is any difference between this and sp 6 besides that its bayonet ?
for example quality, weight and etc. ?
Even zombie will be intimidated with this bayonet.
I killed many a MREs with this and won 20$ throwing them at trees in the Bridgeport mountains….
A true savage, rah
Great video! How do you clean this knife? When I got it, it bas a grayish powdery residue on handle and knife.
Coat it in Ballistol (both blade and handle; Ballistol is safe for metal, plastic, leather and wood), give it a few minutes to penetrate, then wipe clean.
@@RockandrollNegro thanks, bro!
It seems rather questionable this should have any patentable elements, basically being a kabar that can be mounted to a riffle, and even knife converted to bayonet is not new either. On top of that military patents are notoriously difficult to get enforced.
How much is the lest I can get it for USD?
What do you think of the eickhorn sg 2000 wc?
Love it, I need to get my hands on one. Looks like a KCB77 that has addressed the uncomfortable handle and weak bowie point
Have you actually seen examples that do not have “… PATS PEND.”?
we never used them as a bayonet. more so just as a knife. up close and personal if need be.
Marines fixed bayonets and charged in Iraq. They are still used as bayonets from time to time. RAH
Where can I get one at? I would like to get 2 of them.
Amazon has them right now for not crazy expensive- $160
@@alros1212no idea what happened in the last 10 days but now they're 250 to 300
Im looking for hand to hand combat knife and find this in my local online store. Is this good for hand to hand or self-defence purpose? it's expensive to buy an actual combat knife from US cuz the shipment
This is very big and honestly a bit unwieldy if you aren't 6 foot
@@pointynotsharp8436 wait how does not being 6 foot correlated?
@@auzyx6138 it's a very big knife, I prefer something smaller myself
@@pointynotsharp8436 can you give me example like which size u prefer? Cuz i've seen mostly OKC combat knife we're this size mostly
I think a good bayonet is the M9. Shiny complex, seems sturdy and frightening. A black bayonet cannot be seen. But if it is mirror-polished, then it is double-frightening...
Mossberg 590.. Check
what's the HRC? I havent found it even on OKC web site.
No idea unfortunately
@@pointynotsharp8436 the Czech bayonets like the Bren or the newest mk1 are good steel and look outstanding. I wouldnt mind using them as knoives but the price is not right for me
HRC 53-58 and is capable of functioning without breakage in operating temperatures of −25 to 135 °F (−32 to 57 °C)
Is it full tang construction? If not, it's just a tool to puncture and cut shoelaces.
It's a full length stick tang construction just like the older USMC Kabars, except MUCH thicker and beefier stick tang. Not sure if the OKC3s is pinned like the Kabars at the pommel but you can visually see the tang at the bottom and it's peened.
The older Kabars are not peened at the bottom, just pinned.
This "updated Kabar" is built like a tank and can take a lot of abuse. Trust me. My biggest gripe is the blade geometry is crappy for it to be a good slicer.
Even cutting back the angle of the primary bevel edge it still isn't the best for that. It's more geared towards stabbing. And the aggressive serrations will cut most anything quickly so not a big issue on the slicing geometry. It is a combat knife/bayonet. It's not designed for arts and crafts.
But it'll do all sorts of arts and crafts on the skulls of your enemies.
It ain't a false edge of its sharp
where do you even get a knife like that?
i live in europe and all military shops just have replicas.
The m7 is better in my opinion
Is that an M9 with an aluminum handle?
From the manual:
“Ontario Knife OKC 3S Multi-Purpose Bayonet/Knife System
NSN:1095-01-521-6087
MilSpec Gear
866-577-2987”
“The bayonet/knife should be inserted into scabbard with one strap snapped around the grip and the other strap over the
cross guard so that the cross guard strap goes over the muzzle ring.”
Supposedly to keep from cutting off the strap
It's an ambidextrous sheath so you can stick it in either way and the cross strap will hold fine both ways. The cross strap is large enough and long enough that when you unbutton it, even if the knife is in "right-handed" the strap gets out the way and you won't run the risk of slicing the cross strap.
It has the double straps to be "jump ready."