Don't forget, phone manufacturers intentionally remove the SD card slot, headphone jack, and charger to encourage you to purchase more of their products.
TBH the reason for removing the SD card slot is because people are stupid and would get slow and shitty SD cards then would blame the phone for being slow.
@@grovimyboi3815nice excuse, next day remove display and say people were dropping it, ..headphone jack reason ? Waterproofing or say earbuds are convient or any other? …this will go on😂
@@naruto6918honestly, when the headphone jack was removed, it did improve water resistance. And now that the majority of the world's phones are without it, 98% of people wouldn't be able to tell you any difference between wired 3.5mm buds or wireless ones. Now it's just about laziness to not include a hp jack, but also phones are getting thinner and thinner. Would you rather be minorly inconvenienced with wireless buds? Or would you rather keep the jack but then lose battery capacity? All you twats that bring up the missing hp jack make me laugh. It's 2024. Adapt and cope.
@@NyteStalker89 hey idiot, the 3.5mm hp jack literally does fuckall for battery capacity considering oh I dont know, the ROG Phones?? We all know why they did that and you fell for it hook,line, and sinker. Embarrassing.
@@NyteStalker89 you are just stupid and brainwashed by big tech propaganda. Yes, you can tell the difference between wired and wireless headphones. I listen to music in flac format, I buy all my music, not using any streaming. SD card slot is useful to store my music collection on it, and I need a headphone jack to use my Sennheiser IE 900. And what's your point on removing it improving water resistance? No one is using their phones in water, it just bs. Remember the Galaxy S5 with the removable back plate and battery with a headphone jack? That phone was water resistant too. You worthless idiot npc.
The only thing left that we need a massive update on is BATTERY! We need Solidstate Batteries, that kind of tech is insane and super impressive. They could make Batteries smaller than what we have now but last for days.
Huawei, Honor , Xiaomi, Oppo are all using new silicon-carbon battery tech in their 2024 flagships. Only the companies catering to the West refuse to innovate because we keep buying their trash.
Soon as they banned Huawei, the competition lessened and the need for innovation became less urgent. I’ll never forget the way phone batteries improved in one cycle after the P20 Pro Series. We also got the iPhone X a month after the 8 during that cycle cause Apple didn’t wanna fall behind.
I’m gonna be honest, if you were ever updating your phone yearly, I blame you for being disappointed because of course it’s getting boring there’s literally less to possibly innovate on that you haven’t seen already. Upgrade every 3+ years and you’ll be a lot happier
time was, yearly updates made some sense in that regard. when smartphones were new every year would bring massive changes and improvements in hardware and software but yea these days, barely anything changes.
@@angcil88 you better start looking for good deals already. You don't want to find yourself having to panic buy something at full price when it suddenly dies :D
@@MitchellTheMitch it's complete madness. I got a used oneplus 9 pro for $400 and my annual phone plan with 5gigs of 5G data then unlimited 4G is $15 a month.
I bought the s23 ultra @ 700$ brand new just 4 months back and I wont be upgrading this beast of a device till 2029. It will be supported till 2028 + 1 year as a stretch if i don't find any meaningful upgrade which would make my work and life easy. All that you have said stands true. I used to upgrade my phones every two years - but this was before iphone 11(bought it when it launched). After which I shifted to the s23 ultra just a few months back.
@@JamesCollins-oq9hx This was in the month of 1st half of January. There was a sale going on for the new year of 2024. And our retailer had a couple of pieces of black colour 256 gigs. I got to know about this and I immediately got it since my iphone 11 had almost become a paper weight
I think because many phones have already reached their peak, they are now focused on refining the software experience on each device. Hardware is as important anymore for smart devices
it's not refining. It's changing perfectly working features for the change's sake. Companies make something full solid color then change it to outline, then to solid color in 3 years. They will remove or break a super useful feature (notification channels on stock android) and they will purposefully disable a NATIVE STOCK android feature like Samsung did with one ui 6. And they don't listen to customers. Let's hope they bring it back. The same styles procedure -> square - round - square - round ...
Or it could be like Intel used to be back when AMD CPUs were bad. They're sandbagging hard because they have no intention of putting money into R&D when that would reduce profits and for minimal benefit to the manufacturers because they're all happy with the status quo, so there's no new tech to compete against. It's informal collusion.
@@micha3624 Exactly, not much has happened or improved since iphone 5 for my use case, they made the form factor worse actually, and removed the home button which was very useful.
Not only is it wasteful to upgrade your phone every year but there's really no need to buy the latest phone at all. Get a phone that's 2 years old and it's $0.30 on the dollar and it'll still get between 36 and 72 months of security patches
Or buying new and keeping it till the updates stop. That’s what I’m aiming for with my 12 pro. Even with my battery at 79% I’m not experiencing any issues with my phone.
@@john-wiggains really no issues with battery at 79% ? You hear all these stories that you need to get battery changed asap at 80% lol Still lasts all day?
Great watch! I would argue that for a lot of people it was never really a thing. Most people upgrade every 3-5 years. Only the people who are focused on chasing the trend or have the disposable income to waste buy yearly upgrades. Coz on a yearly basis the incremental improvements aren't ever big enough to warrant buying a whole new phone when your phones can realistically last 3+ years and handle the innovation cycle
@@elwittinio2865 Yeah for contracts it'll be in that range I just mean in general including outside of contract purchases coz once you complete the contract you can still just keep It beyond the years and then trade it in when you eventually upgrade. Coz especially outside of the first world countries contracts aren't too big so that also naturally has led to people not just frivolously upgrading at every turn coz the year to year incremental changes are so minimal it never really justified a whole new purchase but companies got us chasing trends 😂. That consumerism cycle of life.
I am using five smartphones (two are for job related reasons) the newest one i have is from 2021, the oldest is from 2017. They all work just fine. The oldest does the job but kind of feels a little old but the one a year later from 2018 still feels like a completely modern device.
@@SIPEROTH Nice! Yeah, most phones have a much longer life span than the companies would have us believe 📌💯. Coz I think people fall into the whole yearly upgrading thing due to just chasing trends and naturally wanting the newest of everything but realistically the year to year changes are not that drastic. We used to have drastic leaps back in the day but nowadays the leaps are once in a while so yeah well said for most people you can genuinely get by upgrading once in a while. But for companies they wanna make that yearly money so it benefits them to get a sale each year. I think we even see it in gaming with some franchises that release yearly getting customers to buy a new game every year (basically getting a small incremental reskin of what was there the year before 😂) versus games that come once every 4-5 years after long development cycles.
I just upgraded from a Pixel 6 to 9 Pro XL, so I guess that's over 3 years. I used to do it more often when US carriers were subsidizing phones, but now the cost to upgrade is not worth the minor changes.
@@insertnamehere9481 how's the battery on your 11? mine needs plugging in halfway through the day, But I'd rather do that than pay $1,000 for a phone again.....learned my mistake.
This seems so weird to me. It wasn't until the rumor started that Apple wouldn't be doing yearly devices anymore that I even knew that "so many people" upgraded their phones yearly. I thought that was just tech reviewers and phone enthusiasts and I'm still leaning towards the idea that I'm not wrong with that assumption and most individuals do not upgrade every year. With that in mind, dropping the yearly release cycle seems confusing to me, whom I consider to be a an average consumer having upgraded from the iPhone 11 to the 16. Yearly releases were never meant to be for every single owner to upgrade but instead created a wider field for upgradability. Someone on an iPhone 15 probably isn't going to upgrade to the 16 and not simply because the device has barely any upgrades/changes but rather than that, the phone they already have is still nearly brand new. The 16 is for customers still rocking twelves or older or maybe even 13's. The 17 is for the 13's and prior 18 for 14's and prior 19 for 15's and prior... so on and so forth That's just my general take on it though and I'm just a some fucking nobody on the internet that hasn't done a lick of research on this topic so I'll defer to the more intellectual minds in the classroom but.... I don't feel like I'm completely off.
You’re absolutely right. I also thought about this while watching the video-what if they changed the release cycle to two years? It feels like that would leave a big gap in the consumer tech space, not just for the general public but for tech enthusiasts too. A yearly release cycle gives people with older models (say, 2-4 years or more) the chance to choose a brand-new or slightly older but more affordable option. While it’s true that innovation seems to be slowing down, I doubt the development cycle for a smartphone is truly just a year. It actually depends heavily on advancements in other industries, like processors, camera sensors, and AI features. For example, Apple’s new AI intelligence feature is only available now, despite being announced much earlier.
This is what I was thinking. I usually change the phone every 4 years. Even if changes are incremental after 3 iterations you can see the change. I had a 12 pro and I planned to change with 16. I broke the camera in my phone and I decided to change it. I bought a relatively recent iPhone 15 pro. If there were not yearly updates I would have to decide if I buy a 14 or wait 6 months to the 16. And this is counting on a 2 year cycle.
My smartphone buying history 2014: Samsung Galaxy Star Pro(Black) 2015: Samsung Galaxy Grand Prime(White) 2017: Lenovo K8 Note (Black) 2018: Honor 7a (Black) 2018: OnePlus 6 (Red) 2020: Samsung Galaxy Note 20 (Mystic Bronze) 2022: Nothing Phone 1 (Black) 2022: Reverted to Note 20 coz Nothing Phone 1 was too slow and gave Phone 1 to my mother. Still using the Note 20 with a battery swap. Its still a solid phone. I dont think i need an upgrade for how i use my phone, since im no longer a "Power User". I resonate with this video and i think innovation has staggered in recent times. Edit : The OnePlus 6 was the best package for the price, and the most stunning colour on any smartphones that i had owned.
Went note 3 at launch, to the s7 at launch, s10e, and finally got bored and just got an S24 and it's so underwhelming and boring to me. The camera isn't even that big of a jump from five years ago.
That's so many phones i had Iphone 4s from 2011 to 2017 got an Honor 8 lite, didn't like it so bought Oneplus 5 at late 2017 and that lasted until 2023 the battery absolutely died, so i got ( for free ) a Samsung Galaxy A70 used that from mid 2023 untill September 2024 when i got Samsung Galaxy S24 ultra.
@@d9zirable what would kanye do? As far as it goes the note 20 does what I need, which is basically emails, calls, social media scrolling and a bit of TH-cam. Plus it doesn't crash, at least for me so I'm content till she dies on me lol Edit : But if I upgrade, I'll probably get the pixel 9 or 9 pro, they seem real good. Maybe the s24U coz I find the spen extremely useful
They no longer expect you to upgrade every year, in fact, they know 60% plus of last year's users won't upgrade, rather people with products from 3 to 4 years will, and that's why apple for instance, focused on showing the differences when compared to a 4 year old iphone 12 .
Yearly upgrades have been over. I'm watching and typing this on a OnePlus Two from 2015. It's not great but it's still usable for basic tasks coming up on ten years later.
I don't think anyone's disputing whether old phones are functional. But if you put your OP2 against a £250 phone from 2024 the OnePlus would get blown out the water in Many areas.
@@Rizwaan122Yeah but any phone from last 4 years if properly maintained can be as good as new for day to day task like for web browsing, calling, texting, social media, navigation etc it will more than enough like most phones having 4gb/6gb ram and internal storage of 64 gb/128gb are well enough that most people don't upgrade that often unless mobiles are not properly maintained.
@@6kittys147 yeah that's what I mean. The phone will work, but 4-6 years down the line phones will have significantly brighter screens, better and more versatile cameras, improved file transfer speeds, better ingress protection. So it's worth upgrading your phone after 3-4 yrs
People in America like Apple? My man when I visited England I literally have not seen a non Apple phone in London and Manchester. I have not seen one Samsung in 4 days. It’s not just America.
Yeah the UK is very much also apple centric. I now live in France and I see way more androids than iPhones on my daily commute and I love the diversity so much.
I like my fold 5, and while I think the fold 6 looks better and cooler, I'm committed to keeping my fold 5 as long as it'll function and getting it repaired with my screen insurance if/when the screen breaks, until it's nonviable to continue. I still have 4 years of updates so I'm gonna continue using the phone until the lack of updates becomes a problem.
I trade in my Samsung Z Flip every year and get over 70% percent off each year. To me this makes a lot of sense since there is a hinge in the phone so it would be good to get a new hinge each year. So it's less about whatever the phone upgrade is but more about the durability of the phone and how cheap I can get it with a yearly trade in
That is fascinating. Who is giving you 70% of your phone price back every year? Is it the carrier or Samsung themselves? Also, are you in the US by any chance?
@@mayankshete6636 Straight from the Samsung online store here in the US. This year I paid 350 for my z flip 6 but last year I only paid 90 dollars for my flip 5 and they year before that I think was 130. And the original I got, the 3, was open box so I paid like 800.
this. when I was buying my iPhone 15 PM I decided to go with the 512GB version over the 256. $200 now or $1000+ down the line? I plan on keeping this phone for at least 4 years, maybe more
I am not sure why people are complaining about it. This is great for customers. When you buy a phone for that price you don't want to feel out of date 1 year later. Now you can keep your phone for years. you are never meant to upgrade yearly.
the need to upgrade is just not there anymore. I see alot of people rocking iphone 11s and 12s. Samsung s20-22s. Phones are at that state where if it aint broke dont fix it. Just get an android with fast charging or an iphone with great cameras and youre good to go for the next 4-5 yrs
At this point I think its good to wait every other year to update since all phones are amazing now, one year is not gonna make a huge difference until something REALLY BIG changes things.
Normally I would get a new phone every 2 years as my contract ended. Phones always got battery problems and became slow. Last few years this hasn't been the case at all and keep my phones for way longer. Got a S24 ultra right now which I plan to keep for a long time. They will also keep supporting it with updates for 7 years.
My LG G7 Thinq lasted for 6 years. I only replaced it due to the screen breaking, it hadn't slowed down at all. My opinion, look at smaller companies if you don't desire a flagship phone. Cheaper phones are getting better and better and you can find all kinds of phones on the market today. Want one with expandable storage? Removable battery? Giant battery? Headphone jack? Look at options, there is so much these days.
I bought a midrange A50 five years ago, then an A55 5G now. Only cost $300 for each one, and waiting 5 years meant I saw big upgrades (5G, wifi 6, 25W charger, 120Hz screen, bugger battery, much newer os, etc) I would definitely recommend most people wait at least 3 years, imo.
I don’t get it, WHY should people even upgrade their phones every year? Most people cannot even harness the power of their phones anyway. The iPhone 16 Pro was a great upgrade for me because I had an iPhone 8 from 6 years ago. I really don’t get it. People complain about being wasteful and the environment, yet they want to replace their phones every year or every other year, because why? The yearly upgrade is over. Good.
I bought the Pixel 4 when the Pixel 5 was unveiled. Used it until the launch of Pixel 6. Then when Pixel 7 was launched, only then I bought the Pixel 6. As of now, I am still rocking the 6. Most probably until the end of the year. I am tempted to buy the Pixel 8 for its 7 year software update promise.
I've given up on yearly phone upgrades. My last four phones were a Note 9, then a Surface Duo, which I loved but unfortunately dropped. I got a Moto Razr 2022 and enjoyed it, too, making me think flip phones aren’t so bad after all. When the screen went, I didn't want to spend a fortune on a new phone again. Now, I have a Note 10 Plus and honestly, I'm loving it. It still has great battery life, all apps work seamlessly, it's fast in everything I do, and the cameras are still performing well. It hasn't made me want to upgrade to anything newer, and it only cost me £150. I'll look to upgrade when it breaks or I have issues, but for now, I'm eyeing the Note 20 for the future.
I do not upgrade often. I had a Samsung S7 from 2016-2020, and have had a iPhone XR since 2020. I plan to upgrade before the year is up. So every 4/5 years. Which also makes the upgrade much more enjoyable, as the jump in tech is relatively noticeable.
I do not agree that companies follow apple and live of their creativity. Android companies have been the master inovators since the start of the mobile phones that is why there are so many android companies because they have started it and made it acessible for more people to change its functions and imploment their ideas. Apple is just a one mans thought of what a mobile phone should be.
For me an upgrade i did from iPhone5s to iPhone 8s Plus to Samsung Galaxy S10 Ultra is a huge upgrade, then to s20U then to s24U for diff reason. I will probably change phone for next 5 years.
After I bought the Google Pixel 6, I opted not to upgrade to the subsequent 7 and 8 releases. In that time, I also came up with the rule of thumb that TCO for phone and contract should be no more than £1 per day over a 2-3 year period. I upgraded to the 9 Pro for three reasons. There's a professional interest in AI, the camera is a very decent upgrade, and finally, I have a fingerprint sensor that doesn't care if my finger is too hot, too cold, too wet or too dry.
I would likely upgrade once every 5 years, but as currently I do have my phone for over 10 years now. For me is like, when I felt my phone is not giving the usual performance, I spend a couple of dollars to upgrade. On the case of my last phone, I change the battery and it was fine for 5 years more. Not interested on pursuing the cloud/trends.
I’ve my 11 pro max after 5 years and will keep it for the 6th. Why should I upgrade if software is updated and new phones are “50% complete”(in EU we still don’t know when AI is going to come)?
Thats exactly we Asians do if our things don't refuse to give up we use them for decades in our life time until it stops its regular functionality.However some people do upgrade things here just for aesthetics that new things look attractive than old ones.
@@6kittys147 it’s the same the whole world to find someone who changes only because it’s the new model and people who keeps it until it’s really dead. (Or minimum until you receive software patches)
I use to upgrade every 2 years, I went from blackberry curve to cheap windows phone. Then sony xperia z1 compact. Iphone 6. When I got iphone 6 it felt amazing and speedy. Samsung S8 was futuristic and very cool. S10 plus was all screen and sexy. S21 plus was boring but very good. S23 ultra is just a nice note phone. I feel iphone 6 was all the power I needed, S8 was all the eye candy I needed. I think that's where we peaked. Now our phones are full screen and not getting much powerful so we don't need to upgrade. I would like them to focus on trying to get console games to mobile phones. so yes you are right that we have had amazing phones for a long time. Because we are phone obsessed technology nerds we appreciate very minor upgrades. For example just having a bit smaller bezel and bit better specs made me excited. But now smaller bezels make me angry because I struggle to have screen protector not get lifted up by the phone case
@gnshp8167 yeah 10 years ago we were coming from for example a laggy cheap android to an iphone, or a keyboard phone to a touch screen. Ever since then I've always upgraded for minor reason like better screen quality and smaller bezels, smaller camera hole, 120hz. These companies realising they have to save these small upgrades and not give them all at ones. The iPhone 16 pro bezels could of been on the iphone 13 pro. Me personally I grown to hate small bezels because the screen protectors I bought get lifted up by my phone case even when I apply my screen protector perfectly
Up until 2017-2018, I'd say yes... at least for those with enough spare money to spend on a new smartphone every year, there was always something much better on the new devices, whether hardware or software related. But somewhere around 2019, Android 10, 7nm SOCs etc, things really started to slow down, and even regress in some smartphone specs: e.g I think it was the S10 range that offered 16GB of RAM back then, but cut that back to just 12GB on top models ever since! They cut back display resolution too on many models that once were 1440p horizontal, but are now just 1080p!! And they cut back on models too: e.g, Samsung no longer offer an A70 series model, it was just too close to the lower S series models, but cheaper
I've currently got the Galaxy S23 Ultra but I'm waiting for the Oneplus 13 as I like the look of it, if all the leaks and rumours are to believed. Would you recommend it?
Probably the pixel or one of the older pixel phones when Google used to collaborate. But it can be any flagship or 1 grade below. This is too much explanation man. 😂
I've never upgraded either of my lines any sooner than 3 years unless I had a phone break with no coverage. My jump from a Note 9 to an S24 was almost pointless. My jump from a 12 Pro from a 16 Pro Max was more significant. My jump from an LG to Note 9 was massive. My jump from a 5S to 12 Pro was also massive.
I'm using my S8Note together with my Note 20 Ultra daily non stop. You can choose to update annually but I don't see besides the storage, why I can't continute to use it for web, email and instant messaging.
I'd argue the ultrasonic fingerprint reader and better modem to improve connection strength and reduce heating due to it not working so hard to maintain signal are more substantial upgrades
Yeah, I'm good with my S24 Ultra. IMO the S25 isn't going to be the much of a game changer for me. I could be wrong though considering the new chipset that's coming 🤷♂️
Yearly upgrades are fine, not everyone upgrading is doing so from last year’s device, I upgraded from an iPhone 13 Pro Max to the 16 Pro Max which is a massive upgrade in pretty much every aspect.
@@ant4686 USB-C, bigger and brighter display, Dynamic Island, action button, camera control, smoother performance, WiFi 7 support, longer battery life, better cameras, the ability to send messages via satellite etc.
@@ant4686 From my 13ProMax to my 16ProMax USB-C port, USB3 speed, Wifi7, Bluetooth 5.3, Dynamic Island, new & better battery, 8gb memory (instead of 6gb), A18pro chip resulting in better performance and support for the next 4-5 years, Better heat dissipation, Bigger display, Better display, Action button, Slightly better camera’s (as usual), better microphones, better speakers Apple Intelligence capabilities (when it gets released) Camera control button Just to name a few. I don’t upgrade every year. 4-5 is my sweet spot. iOS+Android =❤️
I know, its all good and great improvements. But still no actual functional changes. Its more smooth, but still does the same thing as phone from 2015. I want something new, awesome functions, exciting, fun. But today its becoming mostly in UI and apps functionality. No more hardware, just software change. In the end, it takes time for bigger changes to keep happening again, and it will soon. @@iforgot3942
You were never meant to get the newest phone model every year. Every year phone companies will release iterative upgrades to their phone as the flagship, but you as consumer should only need to upgrade when you can and want to, you’re not compelled to fork over 1000+ dollars every single year. If you felt like that up until this point that is on you.
Bought galaxy m35 for like 200$ this week. It has everything, amoled 120hz (using 60hz), stereo speaker, enough memory and cpu power for normie, big battery 6000mAh, 5 years update support (4 OS). My prev phone was redmi 5 plus, used it for almost 7 years.
@_Pt3k_ I tried using 120hz on my S24U, and it actually gave me more battery life than 60hz. It's like, when you use 120hz, it reduces the refresh rate to 1 depending on what you're doing or watching. But with 60hz, it stays the same. So, check if yours does that too, and you might get more battery life.
Wait when was yearly upgrade justifiable ? Was the s22 different than the 23 ? The iphone 14 from 15 ? Or 13 ? It's been like this for years youtubers such as u don't think it's trendy enough to talk about this :))
Its NEVER WORTH upgrading every year. Thats pretty much insanity and someone with too much time on their hands, and little to no responsibilities, and maybe some type of underlying mental issue. And please dont hit me with the i cant afford it shit. Because i can. Im just not dumb like that.
First thing to come to mind after seeing this video's title was: Who even buys phones YEARLY!? it's a huge waste and completely unnecessary. Some people's reality of what's important is warped.
My yearly upgrade was stopped at Galaxy Note 10. Before that I have iPhone6 > LG G3>Galaxy S7edge > Note 8 > Note 9 > Note 10. Now I’m comfortable with 14ProMax. No plan to upgrade soon to newer phones since it still works perfectly fine.
Right about Samsung and (especially) Apple. There's little argument that the pixel 9 isn't a significant upgrade over the already good 8. The pixel 9 has levelled the playing field.
I usually also upgrade every 2 to 3 years. Tablets are 4-6 years. Personally speaking, I do pre-order phones and tablets because that's when I get the best trade-in deals. I also find it funny that at its core, we're essentially leasing our phones. How much you "leased" your phone for depends on when you buy, how much of a discount you're getting, and if you trade the old one in for a deal.
Apple and Samsung should stagger their yearly releases between Ultra/Pro and base models 2025 -17 Pro/max, SE4, S25 Ultra 2026 -iPhone 18/Air 18, S26/Plus
Still using my 5yr old OnePlus 7 Pro, it's crazy how fast it still performs (the 12gb RAM surely helps) and luckily the fear of the front camera breaking has not happened yet for me.
don't know if you'll see this but I've been rocking the note 9 for 5-6 years now and upgrading to the 22 ultra for a fraction of what it cost on release. I think for me personally every 6 or so years its worth the leap but honestly if my note 9 wasn't cracked along with its battery weakening i probably wouldn't upgrade that phone is still incredible to this day
In the Pixel's defense, Google intended to switch to their in-house designed Tensor for the 9 but missed a production deadline in part due to supply chain issues.
Very good points. The last two phones I had that I loved I used for about 4 years each. Probably no one here can relate, but those were the BlackBerry Z10, and the BlackBerry KeyOne. Now I'm using the Nothing Phone (2), and I envision keeping it for at least two years or more. Why I also went for the 512 GB version. However, I'm obviously not the typical smartphone user.
I have a flagship from 2021 and is still a bit overkill in the performance department. Why would I upgrade? Plus, there's not phones on the market anymore that fit my specific niche. Small size, headphones jack, and the ability to install a custom ROM. The only one I could find was the Zenfone 8. Even that has had the ability to unlock the bootloader taken away by Asus. Good thing I did it beforehand. Now I'm keeping this phone as long as humanly possible
I feel like getting a yearly upgrade has changed meaning over the years. Back then it was about getting the new innovative phone that vastly improved on last years model. Nowadays it's about being bored of sticking to one brand and switching brands just to try something new. Case in point, this year i have the galaxy fold but next year ill be getting either a pixel phone or an ultra phone. Could i get the latest galaxy phone? Sure but it would feel like a waste of money since the improvements made dont justify the price tag. Id rather pay less and get a phone that feels vastly different to what i have now. Just my two cents.
The camera button was not a panic decition . They made it to make You take photos on it's side to make sure more images are 3d compatible whenever the vision pro is released as a mainstream product.
Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra or Google pixel 9 pro XL so these are my options between these two brand so which one do you think I should go for as a TH-camr❤😂🎉😂
Hello, real world here: I've spent 4 years with a 2019 midranger with 4 GB RAM, and last year I've moved to a little higher tier Xiaomi 13t and I'm going to stay with it as long as virtually possible.
Right now I'm still using my 5 years old Xiaomi Mi 9 Lite, and just a couple of months ago it began to get laggy and the battery is clearly not in good shape, but yeah, it's great to have a phone that you can use and abuse and will hold up for a long amount of time until a new one is strictly needed. Great video.
I used to upgrade very year because I worked at a carrier store, after the 12pro, I just kept that phone until it broke and I got the 15pro max. Now I plan to keep this as long as I can.
I've been updating every 4 to 5 years. I'm tempted to get a new one next year, but... If it's underwhelming, I'll probably just look for a model that's 2 years newer than what I have on Offerup. It'll cost me like $250 max and I'll be able to last longer
What bothers me is how limited the software is these days. What is worse though is how many of the companies stopped changing the design, why does the iPhone look the same since iPhone X? Same goes for the Samsung Galaxy line up.
I've been using the same phone for 5 years and I'm only just now thinking about getting a new one. It's not even close to dead. The battery isn't the best but still functional and it's maybe a little slower than some phones but it's really not the worst. I'll hold onto it as a backup.
I upgrade my iPhone fairly infrequently. Current is a 13, previous 8 and 5. Android - I just use them for s/w testing so have a variety of mostly old ones and then lean on others for testing contemporary models.
I bought iPhone 12 pro max 128 gb on 2020, switched from att to tmo because they paid off the equipment balance and then sold it and got a used one 512gb for like $50, still using it as my daily and paid off.
My Phone history: 2000 nokia 3310 2002 nokia 5510 2004 nokia n gage 2012 nokia e71 2014 nokia 510 2016 lenovo a something 2018 xiaomi redmi 6s 2020 redmi note 9 2023 samsung a24 Based on this, i usually upgrade every 2 years (except for n gage, i used it for 8 years!!)
Quick tip: getting used to 60Hz actually helps quite a bit with battery life. Even though I love the smoothness of higher refresh rates, it usually doesnt matter and ill gladly take what feels like an addidional 15% battery
I jumped from the Z Fold 4 to the Z Fold 6, mostly because the battery was basically junk by then and the Fold 6 was around the corner, and I would be quite happy keeping this phone for *at least* 3 years... same with my laptop with a 16 core Ryzen 9 7945HX and a mobile RTX 4080. Maybe a new battery 2-3 years in for each, but do I really need anything else?
I have been using a Xiaomi MI9T since january of 2020. This damn phone has been hit 100s times. I have had absolutely no issues (other than the amoled screen starting to burn) with using all day every day since. Camera is great, speed is great, the UI is perfect, the "no camera cut in the front" gimmick is so fresh to me still. Probably dont see myself buying another phone for another year.
I am just over 4 years on my current phone, battery life is getting terrible and the screen just stopped working on part of it...this made me have to upgrade.
Don't forget, phone manufacturers intentionally remove the SD card slot, headphone jack, and charger to encourage you to purchase more of their products.
TBH the reason for removing the SD card slot is because people are stupid and would get slow and shitty SD cards then would blame the phone for being slow.
@@grovimyboi3815nice excuse, next day remove display and say people were dropping it, ..headphone jack reason ? Waterproofing or say earbuds are convient or any other? …this will go on😂
@@naruto6918honestly, when the headphone jack was removed, it did improve water resistance. And now that the majority of the world's phones are without it, 98% of people wouldn't be able to tell you any difference between wired 3.5mm buds or wireless ones. Now it's just about laziness to not include a hp jack, but also phones are getting thinner and thinner. Would you rather be minorly inconvenienced with wireless buds? Or would you rather keep the jack but then lose battery capacity? All you twats that bring up the missing hp jack make me laugh. It's 2024. Adapt and cope.
@@NyteStalker89 hey idiot, the 3.5mm hp jack literally does fuckall for battery capacity considering oh I dont know, the ROG Phones?? We all know why they did that and you fell for it hook,line, and sinker. Embarrassing.
@@NyteStalker89 you are just stupid and brainwashed by big tech propaganda. Yes, you can tell the difference between wired and wireless headphones. I listen to music in flac format, I buy all my music, not using any streaming. SD card slot is useful to store my music collection on it, and I need a headphone jack to use my Sennheiser IE 900. And what's your point on removing it improving water resistance? No one is using their phones in water, it just bs. Remember the Galaxy S5 with the removable back plate and battery with a headphone jack? That phone was water resistant too. You worthless idiot npc.
Yearly upgrades have been over for like, the past 3 years lol.
5
But hardware downgrades started earlier (SD cards, 3.5mm jack, chargers, ...)
@@dimiberberu Facts. I wonder what's next.
I came from Honor Magic 5 Lite so i upgraded to S24 and that is it!
Crazy how people are still crying about the headphones jack when cheap wireless headphones are everywhere😂@@dimiberberu
The only thing left that we need a massive update on is BATTERY! We need Solidstate Batteries, that kind of tech is insane and super impressive. They could make Batteries smaller than what we have now but last for days.
We also need better, cheaper foldables. That’s the next big leap.
They would lose money if they did that lol they probably could do though
@@talhaahmed2130 cheaper foldable are last year foldable.
Maybe improved optimisation to reduce battery consumption?
Huawei, Honor , Xiaomi, Oppo are all using new silicon-carbon battery tech in their 2024 flagships. Only the companies catering to the West refuse to innovate because we keep buying their trash.
I think OEMs should release flagship phones every 2 years, and between those 2 years, release a mid-range phone(s).
thats what i am saying from s5 days
Nothing just did that. They skipped 2024 for their flagship.
@@praveenkanshi8458 It was a smart move by them.
OR... Make 1 phone every 3 years and improve the service, software and UI in every iteration rather than just updating a bit here and there.
Exactly
Soon as they banned Huawei, the competition lessened and the need for innovation became less urgent. I’ll never forget the way phone batteries improved in one cycle after the P20 Pro Series. We also got the iPhone X a month after the 8 during that cycle cause Apple didn’t wanna fall behind.
Huawei mate 20 pro was one of the best phones I've had
Isn't the "free market" beautiful?
Soon as some real competition shows up, they ban it
Lmao
I'm ok with them ban, the Chinese can spy on their own citizen.
When P30 and Mate20 series was launched it crushed the competition and become horror for especially Samsung
@@MUZA1875 damn I'm still using it right now
I’m gonna be honest, if you were ever updating your phone yearly, I blame you for being disappointed because of course it’s getting boring there’s literally less to possibly innovate on that you haven’t seen already. Upgrade every 3+ years and you’ll be a lot happier
time was, yearly updates made some sense in that regard. when smartphones were new every year would bring massive changes and improvements in hardware and software but yea these days, barely anything changes.
I upgrade whenever my current phone literally dies and becomes un-fixable 😂
My Galaxy S7 just did this and apps also stopped functioning one by one. 600€ for 8 years was a good deal
Bro I'm still using my 2017 Nokia 6 💀
But I will probably have to buy a new phone next year since my phone is on its last leg 😂 I keep pushing it 😂
Have you gotten the battery changed? @@angcil88
@@angcil88 you better start looking for good deals already. You don't want to find yourself having to panic buy something at full price when it suddenly dies :D
Using Samsung J5 with android 9 and S4 (rooted). Until they fully stop hahaha.
Video starts at 5:22
lol
thanks
Thanks
Thanks, this channel hasn't even took off and it already fell off.
Wym? Your TikTok brain cannot handle a 8min video?
I took s24 ultra this year. And I intend to keep it for the next five years minimum..
yo me too!
Same!! Titanium Violet 512gb. Bought it outright on a great deal.
"I took s24"...did you steal it or is grammar an issue for you?
How much @KennyVo120
I did the same for my S22 2 years ago, still going strong! Planning to keep it for 3 more years, 2 years minimum
I feel like the only reason people upgrades, especially in the US, is because of their contract.
Imagine not getting unlocked phones
Also the US is just horrendously consumerist
@@MitchellTheMitch it's complete madness. I got a used oneplus 9 pro for $400 and my annual phone plan with 5gigs of 5G data then unlimited 4G is $15 a month.
@@MitchellTheMitchI haven't went to a phone store in almost a decade. I always buy unlocked phones.
That and the free phone when you switch it’s just enticing. Like who doesn’t want a free phone 😅
I bought the s23 ultra @ 700$ brand new just 4 months back and I wont be upgrading this beast of a device till 2029. It will be supported till 2028 + 1 year as a stretch if i don't find any meaningful upgrade which would make my work and life easy.
All that you have said stands true. I used to upgrade my phones every two years - but this was before iphone 11(bought it when it launched). After which I shifted to the s23 ultra just a few months back.
got mine two weeks ago, absolute beast of a device.
i went from Note 20 to s24, and will continue cycle every 3 to 4 years upgrade ever3 generations.
Where did you buy it bro. For 700$ brand new😮?
@@JamesCollins-oq9hx This was in the month of 1st half of January. There was a sale going on for the new year of 2024. And our retailer had a couple of pieces of black colour 256 gigs. I got to know about this and I immediately got it since my iphone 11 had almost become a paper weight
My phone has been 3 years out of support and i have no issues.
As long as the performance or compatibility are good there is no problem .
I think because many phones have already reached their peak, they are now focused on refining the software experience on each device. Hardware is as important anymore for smart devices
it's not refining. It's changing perfectly working features for the change's sake. Companies make something full solid color then change it to outline, then to solid color in 3 years. They will remove or break a super useful feature (notification channels on stock android) and they will purposefully disable a NATIVE STOCK android feature like Samsung did with one ui 6. And they don't listen to customers. Let's hope they bring it back. The same styles procedure -> square - round - square - round ...
Or it could be like Intel used to be back when AMD CPUs were bad. They're sandbagging hard because they have no intention of putting money into R&D when that would reduce profits and for minimal benefit to the manufacturers because they're all happy with the status quo, so there's no new tech to compete against. It's informal collusion.
@@micha3624 Exactly, not much has happened or improved since iphone 5 for my use case, they made the form factor worse actually, and removed the home button which was very useful.
Really I'm excited for the snapdragon elite
Not only is it wasteful to upgrade your phone every year but there's really no need to buy the latest phone at all. Get a phone that's 2 years old and it's $0.30 on the dollar and it'll still get between 36 and 72 months of security patches
depends on the battery when buying used, if the phone was taken care of and the battery is healthy, then it's good
@fasn279 Amazon Renewed phones are pretty good, just make sure the seller has 95% or more average review rating.
Or buying new and keeping it till the updates stop. That’s what I’m aiming for with my 12 pro. Even with my battery at 79% I’m not experiencing any issues with my phone.
@@john-wiggains really no issues with battery at 79% ? You hear all these stories that you need to get battery changed asap at 80% lol
Still lasts all day?
Great watch! I would argue that for a lot of people it was never really a thing. Most people upgrade every 3-5 years. Only the people who are focused on chasing the trend or have the disposable income to waste buy yearly upgrades. Coz on a yearly basis the incremental improvements aren't ever big enough to warrant buying a whole new phone when your phones can realistically last 3+ years and handle the innovation cycle
Most phone contracts are two years, so most people I would think upgrading every two years.
@@elwittinio2865 Yeah for contracts it'll be in that range I just mean in general including outside of contract purchases coz once you complete the contract you can still just keep It beyond the years and then trade it in when you eventually upgrade. Coz especially outside of the first world countries contracts aren't too big so that also naturally has led to people not just frivolously upgrading at every turn coz the year to year incremental changes are so minimal it never really justified a whole new purchase but companies got us chasing trends 😂. That consumerism cycle of life.
I am using five smartphones (two are for job related reasons) the newest one i have is from 2021, the oldest is from 2017.
They all work just fine. The oldest does the job but kind of feels a little old but the one a year later from 2018 still feels like a completely modern device.
@@SIPEROTH Nice! Yeah, most phones have a much longer life span than the companies would have us believe 📌💯. Coz I think people fall into the whole yearly upgrading thing due to just chasing trends and naturally wanting the newest of everything but realistically the year to year changes are not that drastic. We used to have drastic leaps back in the day but nowadays the leaps are once in a while so yeah well said for most people you can genuinely get by upgrading once in a while. But for companies they wanna make that yearly money so it benefits them to get a sale each year.
I think we even see it in gaming with some franchises that release yearly getting customers to buy a new game every year (basically getting a small incremental reskin of what was there the year before 😂) versus games that come once every 4-5 years after long development cycles.
I just upgraded from a Pixel 6 to 9 Pro XL, so I guess that's over 3 years. I used to do it more often when US carriers were subsidizing phones, but now the cost to upgrade is not worth the minor changes.
upgraded to an iphone 11 this year
Why?@@insertnamehere9481
@@insertnamehere9481 how's the battery on your 11? mine needs plugging in halfway through the day, But I'd rather do that than pay $1,000 for a phone again.....learned my mistake.
@@fasn279 its really good, since i only got it last year since my local tech store still has them in stock lmao
You got a good jump, especially on the battery and camera side of things.
This seems so weird to me. It wasn't until the rumor started that Apple wouldn't be doing yearly devices anymore that I even knew that "so many people" upgraded their phones yearly. I thought that was just tech reviewers and phone enthusiasts and I'm still leaning towards the idea that I'm not wrong with that assumption and most individuals do not upgrade every year.
With that in mind, dropping the yearly release cycle seems confusing to me, whom I consider to be a an average consumer having upgraded from the iPhone 11 to the 16. Yearly releases were never meant to be for every single owner to upgrade but instead created a wider field for upgradability. Someone on an iPhone 15 probably isn't going to upgrade to the 16 and not simply because the device has barely any upgrades/changes but rather than that, the phone they already have is still nearly brand new. The 16 is for customers still rocking twelves or older or maybe even 13's.
The 17 is for the 13's and prior
18 for 14's and prior
19 for 15's and prior... so on and so forth
That's just my general take on it though and I'm just a some fucking nobody on the internet that hasn't done a lick of research on this topic so I'll defer to the more intellectual minds in the classroom but.... I don't feel like I'm completely off.
You’re absolutely right. I also thought about this while watching the video-what if they changed the release cycle to two years? It feels like that would leave a big gap in the consumer tech space, not just for the general public but for tech enthusiasts too. A yearly release cycle gives people with older models (say, 2-4 years or more) the chance to choose a brand-new or slightly older but more affordable option. While it’s true that innovation seems to be slowing down, I doubt the development cycle for a smartphone is truly just a year. It actually depends heavily on advancements in other industries, like processors, camera sensors, and AI features. For example, Apple’s new AI intelligence feature is only available now, despite being announced much earlier.
This is what I was thinking. I usually change the phone every 4 years. Even if changes are incremental after 3 iterations you can see the change.
I had a 12 pro and I planned to change with 16. I broke the camera in my phone and I decided to change it. I bought a relatively recent iPhone 15 pro. If there were not yearly updates I would have to decide if I buy a 14 or wait 6 months to the 16.
And this is counting on a 2 year cycle.
My smartphone buying history
2014: Samsung Galaxy Star Pro(Black)
2015: Samsung Galaxy Grand Prime(White)
2017: Lenovo K8 Note (Black)
2018: Honor 7a (Black)
2018: OnePlus 6 (Red)
2020: Samsung Galaxy Note 20 (Mystic Bronze)
2022: Nothing Phone 1 (Black)
2022: Reverted to Note 20 coz Nothing Phone 1 was too slow and gave Phone 1 to my mother.
Still using the Note 20 with a battery swap. Its still a solid phone. I dont think i need an upgrade for how i use my phone, since im no longer a "Power User".
I resonate with this video and i think innovation has staggered in recent times.
Edit : The OnePlus 6 was the best package for the price, and the most stunning colour on any smartphones that i had owned.
Went note 3 at launch, to the s7 at launch, s10e, and finally got bored and just got an S24 and it's so underwhelming and boring to me. The camera isn't even that big of a jump from five years ago.
That's so many phones i had Iphone 4s from 2011 to 2017 got an Honor 8 lite, didn't like it so bought Oneplus 5 at late 2017 and that lasted until 2023 the battery absolutely died, so i got ( for free ) a Samsung Galaxy A70 used that from mid 2023 untill September 2024 when i got Samsung Galaxy S24 ultra.
Fellow Note20 user here. How do you deal with people that call our phone trash, bcuz I become emotionally defensive everytime I hear it.
@@d9zirable what would kanye do?
As far as it goes the note 20 does what I need, which is basically emails, calls, social media scrolling and a bit of TH-cam. Plus it doesn't crash, at least for me so I'm content till she dies on me lol
Edit : But if I upgrade, I'll probably get the pixel 9 or 9 pro, they seem real good. Maybe the s24U coz I find the spen extremely useful
Do you still get security updates?
People are far too brand loyal. Oneplus keeps making big improvements each year.
They no longer expect you to upgrade every year, in fact, they know 60% plus of last year's users won't upgrade, rather people with products from 3 to 4 years will, and that's why apple for instance, focused on showing the differences when compared to a 4 year old iphone 12 .
Yearly upgrades have been over. I'm watching and typing this on a OnePlus Two from 2015. It's not great but it's still usable for basic tasks coming up on ten years later.
I don't think anyone's disputing whether old phones are functional. But if you put your OP2 against a £250 phone from 2024 the OnePlus would get blown out the water in Many areas.
I'm typing this on a flip phone from 2005.
@@CorazónAtómicoDelaVíaLáctea🤦♂️
@@Rizwaan122Yeah but any phone from last 4 years if properly maintained can be as good as new for day to day task like for web browsing, calling, texting, social media, navigation etc it will more than enough like most phones having 4gb/6gb ram and internal storage of 64 gb/128gb are well enough that most people don't upgrade that often unless mobiles are not properly maintained.
@@6kittys147 yeah that's what I mean. The phone will work, but 4-6 years down the line phones will have significantly brighter screens, better and more versatile cameras, improved file transfer speeds, better ingress protection.
So it's worth upgrading your phone after 3-4 yrs
People in America like Apple? My man when I visited England I literally have not seen a non Apple phone in London and Manchester. I have not seen one Samsung in 4 days. It’s not just America.
Yeah the UK is very much also apple centric. I now live in France and I see way more androids than iPhones on my daily commute and I love the diversity so much.
The statistics available for the UK suggest an almost 50/50 split between Android and iOS.
@@kamarae.2444 no way, loads of people use android in the uk
i hate apple. evil products that do less than a phone with a tenth of the price
@@aquaponieeethey cost the same bozo
I like my fold 5, and while I think the fold 6 looks better and cooler, I'm committed to keeping my fold 5 as long as it'll function and getting it repaired with my screen insurance if/when the screen breaks, until it's nonviable to continue. I still have 4 years of updates so I'm gonna continue using the phone until the lack of updates becomes a problem.
Nicee I hope Apple does a fold series as well. I had one before but I switched
I trade in my Samsung Z Flip every year and get over 70% percent off each year. To me this makes a lot of sense since there is a hinge in the phone so it would be good to get a new hinge each year. So it's less about whatever the phone upgrade is but more about the durability of the phone and how cheap I can get it with a yearly trade in
That is fascinating. Who is giving you 70% of your phone price back every year? Is it the carrier or Samsung themselves? Also, are you in the US by any chance?
@@mayankshete6636 Straight from the Samsung online store here in the US. This year I paid 350 for my z flip 6 but last year I only paid 90 dollars for my flip 5 and they year before that I think was 130. And the original I got, the 3, was open box so I paid like 800.
The trade in value changes from year to year. I was surprised by how much it was this year
There's absolutely no reason to upgrade every year. Upgrade when there's something that needs to be upgraded.
this. when I was buying my iPhone 15 PM I decided to go with the 512GB version over the 256. $200 now or $1000+ down the line? I plan on keeping this phone for at least 4 years, maybe more
I am not sure why people are complaining about it. This is great for customers. When you buy a phone for that price you don't want to feel out of date 1 year later. Now you can keep your phone for years. you are never meant to upgrade yearly.
the need to upgrade is just not there anymore. I see alot of people rocking iphone 11s and 12s. Samsung s20-22s. Phones are at that state where if it aint broke dont fix it. Just get an android with fast charging or an iphone with great cameras and youre good to go for the next 4-5 yrs
The yearly update has been over for at least 4 years.
At this point I think its good to wait every other year to update since all phones are amazing now, one year is not gonna make a huge difference until something REALLY BIG changes things.
Normally I would get a new phone every 2 years as my contract ended. Phones always got battery problems and became slow. Last few years this hasn't been the case at all and keep my phones for way longer. Got a S24 ultra right now which I plan to keep for a long time. They will also keep supporting it with updates for 7 years.
My LG G7 Thinq lasted for 6 years. I only replaced it due to the screen breaking, it hadn't slowed down at all. My opinion, look at smaller companies if you don't desire a flagship phone. Cheaper phones are getting better and better and you can find all kinds of phones on the market today. Want one with expandable storage? Removable battery? Giant battery? Headphone jack? Look at options, there is so much these days.
0:27 what device is that
I think its pixel 9 pro or 9 pro xl.
Pixel 9, recently released
its the pixel 9 pro.
One of the pixels i think
Samsung 9 pro xl
I bought a midrange A50 five years ago, then an A55 5G now. Only cost $300 for each one, and waiting 5 years meant I saw big upgrades (5G, wifi 6, 25W charger, 120Hz screen, bugger battery, much newer os, etc)
I would definitely recommend most people wait at least 3 years, imo.
I stopped upgrading every year at the S10+ / Note 10+. Went from those to the S21 Ultra and just now upgraded this year but came very close last year.
I don’t get it, WHY should people even upgrade their phones every year? Most people cannot even harness the power of their phones anyway.
The iPhone 16 Pro was a great upgrade for me because I had an iPhone 8 from 6 years ago.
I really don’t get it. People complain about being wasteful and the environment, yet they want to replace their phones every year or every other year, because why?
The yearly upgrade is over. Good.
I bought the Pixel 4 when the Pixel 5 was unveiled. Used it until the launch of Pixel 6. Then when Pixel 7 was launched, only then I bought the Pixel 6. As of now, I am still rocking the 6. Most probably until the end of the year. I am tempted to buy the Pixel 8 for its 7 year software update promise.
I've given up on yearly phone upgrades. My last four phones were a Note 9, then a Surface Duo, which I loved but unfortunately dropped. I got a Moto Razr 2022 and enjoyed it, too, making me think flip phones aren’t so bad after all. When the screen went, I didn't want to spend a fortune on a new phone again.
Now, I have a Note 10 Plus and honestly, I'm loving it. It still has great battery life, all apps work seamlessly, it's fast in everything I do, and the cameras are still performing well. It hasn't made me want to upgrade to anything newer, and it only cost me £150. I'll look to upgrade when it breaks or I have issues, but for now, I'm eyeing the Note 20 for the future.
I do not upgrade often. I had a Samsung S7 from 2016-2020, and have had a iPhone XR since 2020. I plan to upgrade before the year is up. So every 4/5 years. Which also makes the upgrade much more enjoyable, as the jump in tech is relatively noticeable.
Same
S7was from 2016 tho
@@NicoleBucud-m7s typo
Silicone carbon battery is the first and last reason for my phone upgrade. I don't care about anything else. Except processor and battery.
I havent bought a new phone since the Pixel 4a. I just wait two years after release and then buy "renewed".
I do not agree that companies follow apple and live of their creativity. Android companies have been the master inovators since the start of the mobile phones that is why there are so many android companies because they have started it and made it acessible for more people to change its functions and imploment their ideas. Apple is just a one mans thought of what a mobile phone should be.
For me an upgrade i did from iPhone5s to iPhone 8s Plus to Samsung Galaxy S10 Ultra is a huge upgrade, then to s20U then to s24U for diff reason. I will probably change phone for next 5 years.
For your reading this. What is your honest opinion about the s24 ultra in terms of battery life and camera?
Oh my God, Touchwiz, what a nightmare that was 💀💀 you brought back terrible memories
I always feel like I am the only person who liked and still likes touchwiz
After I bought the Google Pixel 6, I opted not to upgrade to the subsequent 7 and 8 releases. In that time, I also came up with the rule of thumb that TCO for phone and contract should be no more than £1 per day over a 2-3 year period. I upgraded to the 9 Pro for three reasons. There's a professional interest in AI, the camera is a very decent upgrade, and finally, I have a fingerprint sensor that doesn't care if my finger is too hot, too cold, too wet or too dry.
I would likely upgrade once every 5 years, but as currently I do have my phone for over 10 years now. For me is like, when I felt my phone is not giving the usual performance, I spend a couple of dollars to upgrade. On the case of my last phone, I change the battery and it was fine for 5 years more.
Not interested on pursuing the cloud/trends.
0:13 nice graph. Don’t be surprised if Apple headhunts you for their scientific graphs division!
nobody knows what's on the y axis
@@KazmirRunik significant upgrades
I’ve my 11 pro max after 5 years and will keep it for the 6th. Why should I upgrade if software is updated and new phones are “50% complete”(in EU we still don’t know when AI is going to come)?
Thats exactly we Asians do if our things don't refuse to give up we use them for decades in our life time until it stops its regular functionality.However some people do upgrade things here just for aesthetics that new things look attractive than old ones.
@@6kittys147 it’s the same the whole world to find someone who changes only because it’s the new model and people who keeps it until it’s really dead. (Or minimum until you receive software patches)
The issue is with the chipset. The early 2010’s we were still getting around a 40% increase year on year with capability. Now we are lucky to get 20%.
Was it ever a thing though?
Maybe like 10 years ago it was worth it because phones really changed with it's now generation
I use to upgrade every 2 years, I went from blackberry curve to cheap windows phone. Then sony xperia z1 compact. Iphone 6. When I got iphone 6 it felt amazing and speedy. Samsung S8 was futuristic and very cool. S10 plus was all screen and sexy. S21 plus was boring but very good. S23 ultra is just a nice note phone.
I feel iphone 6 was all the power I needed, S8 was all the eye candy I needed. I think that's where we peaked.
Now our phones are full screen and not getting much powerful so we don't need to upgrade. I would like them to focus on trying to get console games to mobile phones.
so yes you are right that we have had amazing phones for a long time. Because we are phone obsessed technology nerds we appreciate very minor upgrades. For example just having a bit smaller bezel and bit better specs made me excited. But now smaller bezels make me angry because I struggle to have screen protector not get lifted up by the phone case
@gnshp8167 yeah 10 years ago we were coming from for example a laggy cheap android to an iphone, or a keyboard phone to a touch screen. Ever since then I've always upgraded for minor reason like better screen quality and smaller bezels, smaller camera hole, 120hz. These companies realising they have to save these small upgrades and not give them all at ones. The iPhone 16 pro bezels could of been on the iphone 13 pro. Me personally I grown to hate small bezels because the screen protectors I bought get lifted up by my phone case even when I apply my screen protector perfectly
Up until 2017-2018, I'd say yes... at least for those with enough spare money to spend on a new smartphone every year, there was always something much better on the new devices, whether hardware or software related.
But somewhere around 2019, Android 10, 7nm SOCs etc, things really started to slow down, and even regress in some smartphone specs: e.g I think it was the S10 range that offered 16GB of RAM back then, but cut that back to just 12GB on top models ever since!
They cut back display resolution too on many models that once were 1440p horizontal, but are now just 1080p!!
And they cut back on models too: e.g, Samsung no longer offer an A70 series model, it was just too close to the lower S series models, but cheaper
I've currently got the Galaxy S23 Ultra but I'm waiting for the Oneplus 13 as I like the look of it, if all the leaks and rumours are to believed. Would you recommend it?
0:50 what is the phone at this time frame
I think note 9
Probably the pixel or one of the older pixel phones when Google used to collaborate. But it can be any flagship or 1 grade below.
This is too much explanation man. 😂
S7 edge
@@ravikantchoubey9487that's a samsung
It's an S8 or S9. Like actually, don't listen to these other guys lol
I've never upgraded either of my lines any sooner than 3 years unless I had a phone break with no coverage.
My jump from a Note 9 to an S24 was almost pointless.
My jump from a 12 Pro from a 16 Pro Max was more significant.
My jump from an LG to Note 9 was massive.
My jump from a 5S to 12 Pro was also massive.
Yearly upgrades are for Wallstreet and investors. Not consumers.
I'm using my S8Note together with my Note 20 Ultra daily non stop. You can choose to update annually but I don't see besides the storage, why I can't continute to use it for web, email and instant messaging.
The Google Pixel is the only phone this year that gave people a legit reason to upgrade. For example, the new hardware and 42 megapixel selfie camera.
But they are still using last year's processor that's barely been improved
Google pixel is all software, yet they still limit features in non pro models.
I'd argue the ultrasonic fingerprint reader and better modem to improve connection strength and reduce heating due to it not working so hard to maintain signal are more substantial upgrades
Still sh@t though 😢
@@VentsislavRachevit's an excellent phone, have you even used it??
Yeah, I'm good with my S24 Ultra. IMO the S25 isn't going to be the much of a game changer for me. I could be wrong though considering the new chipset that's coming 🤷♂️
Yearly upgrades are fine, not everyone upgrading is doing so from last year’s device, I upgraded from an iPhone 13 Pro Max to the 16 Pro Max which is a massive upgrade in pretty much every aspect.
What are some of the biggest differences you noticed?
@@ant4686 USB-C, bigger and brighter display, Dynamic Island, action button, camera control, smoother performance, WiFi 7 support, longer battery life, better cameras, the ability to send messages via satellite etc.
@@ant4686
From my 13ProMax to my 16ProMax
USB-C port,
USB3 speed,
Wifi7,
Bluetooth 5.3,
Dynamic Island,
new & better battery,
8gb memory (instead of 6gb),
A18pro chip resulting in better performance and support for the next 4-5 years,
Better heat dissipation,
Bigger display,
Better display,
Action button,
Slightly better camera’s (as usual), better microphones,
better speakers
Apple Intelligence capabilities (when it gets released)
Camera control button
Just to name a few.
I don’t upgrade every year.
4-5 is my sweet spot.
iOS+Android =❤️
I know, its all good and great improvements. But still no actual functional changes. Its more smooth, but still does the same thing as phone from 2015. I want something new, awesome functions, exciting, fun. But today its becoming mostly in UI and apps functionality. No more hardware, just software change. In the end, it takes time for bigger changes to keep happening again, and it will soon. @@iforgot3942
@@iforgot3942biggest battery ever
You were never meant to get the newest phone model every year.
Every year phone companies will release iterative upgrades to their phone as the flagship, but you as consumer should only need to upgrade when you can and want to, you’re not compelled to fork over 1000+ dollars every single year.
If you felt like that up until this point that is on you.
Bought galaxy m35 for like 200$ this week. It has everything, amoled 120hz (using 60hz), stereo speaker, enough memory and cpu power for normie, big battery 6000mAh, 5 years update support (4 OS). My prev phone was redmi 5 plus, used it for almost 7 years.
Why would you use 60hz
@@agame-jv6zv cuz im battery psycho
@_Pt3k_ I tried using 120hz on my S24U, and it actually gave me more battery life than 60hz. It's like, when you use 120hz, it reduces the refresh rate to 1 depending on what you're doing or watching. But with 60hz, it stays the same. So, check if yours does that too, and you might get more battery life.
@@qwkii but you know s24u has LTPO screen ? They put it only in flagship devices. Cheaper phones only go adaptive 60-120. So i need to go 60hz static
@@_Pt3k_ I just keep my phone on 144hz and the battery seems to last fine
I legit only upgrade when my phone dies lol
Can you tell me the name of the song that starts at 4:26?
Darude - Sandstorm
@ hehe 😜
Wait when was yearly upgrade justifiable ? Was the s22 different than the 23 ? The iphone 14 from 15 ? Or 13 ? It's been like this for years youtubers such as u don't think it's trendy enough to talk about this :))
Its NEVER WORTH upgrading every year. Thats pretty much insanity and someone with too much time on their hands, and little to no responsibilities, and maybe some type of underlying mental issue. And please dont hit me with the i cant afford it shit. Because i can. Im just not dumb like that.
First thing to come to mind after seeing this video's title was: Who even buys phones YEARLY!? it's a huge waste and completely unnecessary. Some people's reality of what's important is warped.
a lot of people actually...
Smartphone innovation died when Huawei got banned
Like they stole folding tech from Samsung and claimed it's their invention !!! Rubbish brand !!
@@dhhlys Just because Samsung were the first doesn't mean they should be the only ones to make foldable smartphones
@@dhhlyslook at gen 1 samsung huawei fold😂😂 huawei was way ahead of samsung
The amount of hate and propaganda alone kept smartphone companies on their toes
@@dhhlys Samsung stole flexible oled display from Sony
My yearly upgrade was stopped at Galaxy Note 10. Before that I have iPhone6 > LG G3>Galaxy S7edge > Note 8 > Note 9 > Note 10. Now I’m comfortable with 14ProMax. No plan to upgrade soon to newer phones since it still works perfectly fine.
Right about Samsung and (especially) Apple. There's little argument that the pixel 9 isn't a significant upgrade over the already good 8. The pixel 9 has levelled the playing field.
guys i have an s6 still, should i upgrade to the 16pro max or wait for the 17?
Why not the S24?
Wait for the 17
wait for s25u
Smartphones have reached their plateau.
Their only trick remaining is hyper words "A.I." , DSLR-like "Photos"
That's just all.
I usually also upgrade every 2 to 3 years. Tablets are 4-6 years. Personally speaking, I do pre-order phones and tablets because that's when I get the best trade-in deals. I also find it funny that at its core, we're essentially leasing our phones. How much you "leased" your phone for depends on when you buy, how much of a discount you're getting, and if you trade the old one in for a deal.
Apple and Samsung should stagger their yearly releases between Ultra/Pro and base models
2025 -17 Pro/max, SE4, S25 Ultra
2026 -iPhone 18/Air 18, S26/Plus
Still using my 5yr old OnePlus 7 Pro, it's crazy how fast it still performs (the 12gb RAM surely helps) and luckily the fear of the front camera breaking has not happened yet for me.
don't know if you'll see this but I've been rocking the note 9 for 5-6 years now and upgrading to the 22 ultra for a fraction of what it cost on release. I think for me personally every 6 or so years its worth the leap but honestly if my note 9 wasn't cracked along with its battery weakening i probably wouldn't upgrade that phone is still incredible to this day
In the Pixel's defense, Google intended to switch to their in-house designed Tensor for the 9 but missed a production deadline in part due to supply chain issues.
Very good points. The last two phones I had that I loved I used for about 4 years each. Probably no one here can relate, but those were the BlackBerry Z10, and the BlackBerry KeyOne. Now I'm using the Nothing Phone (2), and I envision keeping it for at least two years or more. Why I also went for the 512 GB version.
However, I'm obviously not the typical smartphone user.
I have a flagship from 2021 and is still a bit overkill in the performance department. Why would I upgrade?
Plus, there's not phones on the market anymore that fit my specific niche. Small size, headphones jack, and the ability to install a custom ROM. The only one I could find was the Zenfone 8. Even that has had the ability to unlock the bootloader taken away by Asus. Good thing I did it beforehand. Now I'm keeping this phone as long as humanly possible
I feel like getting a yearly upgrade has changed meaning over the years. Back then it was about getting the new innovative phone that vastly improved on last years model. Nowadays it's about being bored of sticking to one brand and switching brands just to try something new. Case in point, this year i have the galaxy fold but next year ill be getting either a pixel phone or an ultra phone. Could i get the latest galaxy phone? Sure but it would feel like a waste of money since the improvements made dont justify the price tag. Id rather pay less and get a phone that feels vastly different to what i have now. Just my two cents.
The camera button was not a panic decition . They made it to make You take photos on it's side to make sure more images are 3d compatible whenever the vision pro is released as a mainstream product.
Upgraded from IPhone 8 to a IPhone 12. Still don't understand why I need something more expensive
Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra or Google pixel 9 pro XL so these are my options between these two brand so which one do you think I should go for as a TH-camr❤😂🎉😂
Hello, real world here: I've spent 4 years with a 2019 midranger with 4 GB RAM, and last year I've moved to a little higher tier Xiaomi 13t and I'm going to stay with it as long as virtually possible.
Right now I'm still using my 5 years old Xiaomi Mi 9 Lite, and just a couple of months ago it began to get laggy and the battery is clearly not in good shape, but yeah, it's great to have a phone that you can use and abuse and will hold up for a long amount of time until a new one is strictly needed.
Great video.
Yeah but why would u upgrade every year in the first place?
I used to upgrade very year because I worked at a carrier store, after the 12pro, I just kept that phone until it broke and I got the 15pro max. Now I plan to keep this as long as I can.
I've been updating every 4 to 5 years. I'm tempted to get a new one next year, but... If it's underwhelming, I'll probably just look for a model that's 2 years newer than what I have on Offerup. It'll cost me like $250 max and I'll be able to last longer
You guys are upgrading your phones yearly?
I’ve been contemplating upgrading to the iphone 16 pro from my 15 pro, they’re offering 256gb of storage for the price of 128
did we watch the same video?
Last time period I did a real year-to-year upgrades were HTC One M8 > M9 & LG V20 > V30 > V40
What bothers me is how limited the software is these days.
What is worse though is how many of the companies stopped changing the design, why does the iPhone look the same since iPhone X? Same goes for the Samsung Galaxy line up.
I've been using the same phone for 5 years and I'm only just now thinking about getting a new one. It's not even close to dead. The battery isn't the best but still functional and it's maybe a little slower than some phones but it's really not the worst. I'll hold onto it as a backup.
I upgrade my iPhone fairly infrequently. Current is a 13, previous 8 and 5. Android - I just use them for s/w testing so have a variety of mostly old ones and then lean on others for testing contemporary models.
I bought iPhone 12 pro max 128 gb on 2020, switched from att to tmo because they paid off the equipment balance and then sold it and got a used one 512gb for like $50, still using it as my daily and paid off.
at&t in the us has us sign 36 month payment plans so in the us where upgrading every 3 years unless you can buy unlocked.
My Phone history:
2000 nokia 3310
2002 nokia 5510
2004 nokia n gage
2012 nokia e71
2014 nokia 510
2016 lenovo a something
2018 xiaomi redmi 6s
2020 redmi note 9
2023 samsung a24
Based on this, i usually upgrade every 2 years (except for n gage, i used it for 8 years!!)
I am using the OnePlus 7T from 2020, planning to upgrade whether to iphone 16 pro or s24 ultra.. still cant pick one..
Quick tip: getting used to 60Hz actually helps quite a bit with battery life. Even though I love the smoothness of higher refresh rates, it usually doesnt matter and ill gladly take what feels like an addidional 15% battery
Used my note 20 ultra till the battery finally bloated up yesterday and cracked the screen. Got a razr+ on the way ❤
I jumped from the Z Fold 4 to the Z Fold 6, mostly because the battery was basically junk by then and the Fold 6 was around the corner, and I would be quite happy keeping this phone for *at least* 3 years... same with my laptop with a 16 core Ryzen 9 7945HX and a mobile RTX 4080. Maybe a new battery 2-3 years in for each, but do I really need anything else?
I have been using a Xiaomi MI9T since january of 2020. This damn phone has been hit 100s times. I have had absolutely no issues (other than the amoled screen starting to burn) with using all day every day since. Camera is great, speed is great, the UI is perfect, the "no camera cut in the front" gimmick is so fresh to me still. Probably dont see myself buying another phone for another year.
I am just over 4 years on my current phone, battery life is getting terrible and the screen just stopped working on part of it...this made me have to upgrade.