The Mysterious Origins of Drunken Boxing（醉拳)
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In this video we look at the origins of the Drunken style of Kung Fu as portrayed in the movie Drunken Master.
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Sifu Troy Dunwood is known to be the Closing Door Student of the last living FULL SYSTEM of Drunken Fist in the most recent of Years. His drunken is The Lau Family 8 immortals style which is a blend of the myjong (lost track boxing) and wutang 8 immortals system. Many systems have drunken sets but in all my research so far ive never found anyone that has an entire system as Coach Troy. He is very humble and engaging which is very cool. There are other teachers that are very popular in the Drunken Fist world, such as Neil Ripski, and Philip Wong. Although also notable would be the Choy Le Fut and Northern Shaolin forms as well as the modern Wushu version.
is there any place in florida where there are schools or where are some schools located in theneast coast?
@@chylltoneche8849 Not really for a drunken lineage, your best bet is to find a local Kung fu school and learn any basic style first. Once you know how to learn and understand forms you can learn from the many books and videos available on the drunken specific styles. There are also seminars held by the aforementioned masters in this comment but they rarely come to FL. I lived there and all over the east coast so this is what I have personally done to learn. The concept of the Drunken style is a very esoteric movement philosophy that basis itself on the idea of breaking the molds established by movement patterns so while the moves look cool and fun, its really best if you learn orthodox movements before you try to break the orthodoxy of your movements. lol Good luck
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I lived in WPB in 98-01. I competed in a few local Martial Arts tournemants, and found good friends in a new local Choy La Foot school. A quick Google search could help you find what you seek. Enjoy your journey
I learned a little from a student of Bruce Frantzis. I can't remember the student's name though. Bernie?
In Northern Shaolin all of the animals can also be drunken
How the russians havent perfected this is a mystery
Right, with Vodka, 100% proof
Jokes aside, russians are BAD at drinking, the tradition is to ALWAYS have "zakuska", food to go with the drinks, so any American who drinks whiskey without following up with a pickle will drink most ruskies under the table.
Every Russian who fights, is using drunk style 😂
They did. They came up with systema.
Because they only get into fights when sober
I have watched tons of Drunk Masters movies over the decades. It's always fascinated me how the style was created in the movies. Thanks for the explanation of the style.
Well, the most brutal Drunken Fist I've seen is from Ong Bak 2 by Tony Jaa. 😬😬😬
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In reality the drunken fist is similar to Tai Chi. It’s a very advanced system, the intoxication is false while the fist is real. The point of drunken idea is rhythm and tactic and stresses a strong sense of relaxation. Absorb, deflect, redirect, issue.
there's a natural feint and evasive quality to it before you even take a swing
I knew the technique was old. But had no idea how much history/folklore was attached to it. Thank you for the video.
The idea of the style is to be drunk enough to not feel alot of pain, but at the same time sober enough to know what your doing so you can trick your opponents into thinking you don't have balance.
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Thank you!! Please do the dragon style 龍形拳, since it is the year of dragon 🐉
Dragon here, can't wait for it.
You can practice sober, sure. And you should practice sober to learn it. But that wobble doesn't come naturally when sober. It is practiced and deliberate. When drunk, that motion is natural and not deliberate, it's just there.
This explained a lot about the style. Great video. Wish there were more movies about Drunken Boxing. RIP Sam Seed.
The modern hotbed for drunken boxing is in America's deep south roadhouses, where drunken boxing is practiced nightly, sometimes when taverns open in the early morning. These American drunken boxers are know for getting their asses kicked constantly.
A video on Chinese mysticism, Taoist Alchemy and Sorcery/Necromancy, Chinese black magic, and the vampire Jiangshi showing it's connection to western mysticism/witchcraft would be one rollercoaster
That sounds like one for a collab between Angela's Symposium and Benebell Wen if you ask me. Would be nice though.
Real Taoist Alchemy in lineage should be a right-hand path, no necromancy or sorcery as they have the same goals as Buddhism = enlightenment. Necromancy will not take you closer to awakening. The closest it gets is the Fire Path tradition which is very taxing and hard to maintain over a long period of time as it would take a toll on the practitioner mentally and physically,. The Water Method is better, less of a toll but takes longer. It's not that easy to find a real master, you won't find them until you are ready. As corny as that sounds, it is true.
Too much in one idea, you gotta boil it down to its most engaging elements
In the real story, the drunkard defeats 20 beggar children and kills a cat with his bare hands.
Drunken fist is always an interesting topic, great video!!!
I like you so much .. plz talk about wudang drunken sword and you can take clips from yellow river fighter movie .. Iam a big fan 😊
I have seen drunken boxing. Outside the pub at closing time.
was it 8 drunk immortals technique? ;-)
Origins of the tiger claw kung fu?
Emeiquan kungfu?
For those curious of schools in Florida that teach drunken fist, there's a place in Sunrise, FL called Lee Koon Hung Choy Lay Fut that has a drunken form. The owner and Master Li Siu Hung gives private lessons where you can learn the whole thing. There's also a place in Pembroke Pines, FL called The Shaolin Kung Fu Academy where they teach drunken fist and I took private lessons for. Lastly, there's a place I visited in Winter Springs, FL called O-Mei Wushu where they have a drunken form, but it seemed very performative so I'm not sure how much combative application there is. Those are the only places I've visited, but there is another place in Tampa called Mt Song Martial Arts Academy that, according to their website, teach Zui Quan to intermediate and advanced students.
I’ve always wondered if anyone teaches the Drunken 8 Immortals style as from Drunken Master.
Berger Sow also featured in SNK's "King of Fighters"
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I’ve watched a few videos from this channel. Not gonna lie. The Emanuel Augustus mention made me a subscriber. Mostly for the modern correlation between the ancient to modern. Brief but accurate!
Thanks for the video. We saw past Kung Fu pracitioner in the movie they can fly and move in the air and burst energy from their bare hand they call it Qi Gong. Is that true ? I don't think it a folklore since the movie all the same from the 50's and the 20's. Were there any transcript that can proof this? can you make video of it
Please do a video for animal forms of kong-fu and its origin 🎉🎉🎉
wait WHAT?? i thought “Drunken Master” was purely fictional? lolol
xie-xie, Bruh 🤜🫷
Fiction created using real historical characters.
@@learnchinesenow very very cool haha
It was fully improvised, Jackie has said so himself. None of that are known to be real drunken practice.
@@quinnaguirre6937 what he said was they didn't find any actual techniques for "8 immortals" style, which apparently DID exist at some point, so he improvised the moves.
Omg! Drunken boxing comes from noah?! ham shem and japheth. If you do genealogy research, you will see that the 8 individuals that come from Noah's Ark, including obviously noah, his 3 son his wife and 3 daughters equal 8. That is why there is a Chinese pictograph or kanji, that if you look at it, it. It depicts a boat and 8 people in it or a story about about 8 people in it. It's in TH-cam how the Chinese language. Has origins in pre flood history. I know many will probably disagree or find it. Comical, but the original 8 immortals were the last 8. Genetically genetically pure that cut off Noah's arc and repopulated the Earth. Their offspring had diminished lifespans, therefore, being outlived by the 8 original from the arc. This gives a rise to the idea that they were immortal. But they were not. They eventually all died out as well. I did not know that China gave these 8. The originators of the attribute of drunken boxing, but it makes sense because Noah was known to drink and be caught naked with his wife. By his sons, it's in the bible read it. They also already had martial arts preflood.
The 8 immortals were Chinese Taoists, its not connected to Noah. Complete other side of the world.
@learnchinesenow that is what they say dig deeper. I gave things you can research in the original post. Like Chinese characters tell story of noah. But if you only want to do a drive by reading and don't research. You'll remain with the original narrative
The word for boat used in early Chinese was 舟 and it does not have 8 people on the right hand side (八口), it appears in the oracle bones which are from the Shang dynasty so after the time of Noah. Thus the 船 character came about later (maybe because of Noah, I don't know). Also Noah's ark is believed to have crashed into a mountain in modern day Turkey, they have found archeological evidence of that. Turkey is thousands of miles away from China. So just because both groups consist of 8 people, does not mean they were the same.
The original name for the area now known as China was known as Shi-nar.. in some rural areas of China, they're still pronouncing the ch softer like an sh but not so softly more like shc.. Showing that the biblical names given to the regions settled into by the descendants of Noah's ark.. are continued to be called similar. Still, record evidence in older bibles exists. Proving this to this day.
With obvious pronounciational mutations in all languages. Like in old English into modern. The original language sounds foreign to the modern.
All civilizations have a world flooding story. Showing that all descendants were told by the original surviving family members the story. And passed down through generations.
Noah's family were genetically already long lifespan humans. Living into 400 and some 500 years. But their offspring didn't inheret the long lifespan. The following generations lost it and were limited to 120 years. That's also a recorded fact. This phenomenon of a 350 year old person looking like a young 40s would be attributed to immortality. By undicerning individuals who age and die faster. Therefore its completely plausible to presume that they noahs family were considered magical or godly somehow. If you didn't understand their true history. As a distant, bystanding observer wouldn't. It just takes 4 generations to forget the past. Since we all are related to noah. These bystanders were also but didn't realize it.
Shang-ti is also the name ancient Chinese called God. In their description of his character and personality, he fits exactly the biblical account of jehovah. Yaweh. However, the pronunciation actually goes. For modern jews. That is an example of a cultural vocabulary dialectic change. Information is ultimately being lost and redefined by the surviving culture.
Chi Nar is what language? Doesn’t sound like any name for China I have heard. In Chinese its called Zhong Guo. Then each dynasty had its name that was used at the time.
A little disappointed that you didn’t show the Kung Fu Panda move that was pretty clearly drunken boxing-inspired…final showdown with Tai Lung, the double-fist roundabout thing (not sure what else to call it)
Only a little though, it was still fun seeing all the clips
Drunken boxing is for show!!!! Its exhibition!
Re: drunken style.
Like opium addiction, drunkeness (really, tipsiness- drunks lack eye/hand coordination) deadens pain and masks infirmity, allowing the boxer to take hits that would give lesser men pause. This is the miracle of "iron skin" for some. Also, the practitioner is more likely to take "insane" risks, while drunk. That profligacy catches opponents by surprise.
I never practiced either the sword or Shorin Ryu (literally "from Shaolin" according to Funakoshi), while tripping on LSD or peyote . . . but I see potential in it. I suggest that hashish is the appropriate performance enhancing chemical for boxing practice. Its buzz lends well to "grooving on it, man", which is a hippy euphemism for intense, sometimes insightful, focus.
Is that why the USSR and USA were in Afghanistan; the graveyard of empire? Asking for a Kung Fu friend.
Seriously, though, the Drunken style uses the body's natural springs to cock and release. I work like that now to take it easy on my old body. Think shuto thrown properly, with your hips in it, but extend that to sweeping up and down, back and forth.
My Kung Fu Uncle Pat Hodges Sifu! Gave me two drunken fist sets from Liu Sher Jen 🤗Tsui Chuan, Kai Shan Chuan 😳in the Hung Gar’s Set “Fu Hok Sheong Ying Kuen! You’ll see some drunken moves that So Hut Yee, taught Wong Fei Hung 😬
I had always heard that you actually had to abstain from drinking entirely in order to practice this style because of how intricate and coordinated the moves themselves are. I don't know if that's true, but it makes sense to me, anyway.
AnyONE know the name of the aniseed tasting Spirit the monks drink at Shaolin?? It knocks your breath away and your voice gone!! .. and a very little gets you floating in the Clouds...
In China old days, especially during war time, it's very chaotic n life threatening. Kungfu and technique using weapon is crucial skill to stay alive. the so-called ridiculous hard technique nowadays was a norm by then when life's hard n challenging. The physical form or endurance of then normal people were much tougher then now. Another point to mention is a lot of techniques were lost due to the selfish/conservative attitude. The martial arts are like intellectual property, it's matter of live and dead. Some families rather lost their inheritance of techniques then let others learn it. Yea. It's a culture shock for westerners.
Please do a story on the origins of Fujow Pai (Tiger Claw)
And one on how White Crane style made its way to Okinawa and became Te and later Karate.
Awesome video! Thanks! You said that wusong was just sleeping, but in my understand he sought the tiger, as asked by villagers
I'll have to go back and read it again, I read the book years ago, but for this video I just took an explanation of the story from other sources.
Interesting thanks
Moderate Drinking is ok but an alcoholic can't control anything...its a good style 'cos it's unpredictable.
You should do a video on Fong Yang and Khong Chang the Beggars Kung Fu Schools. Mostly found in Malaysia these days.
Augustus was amazing, so glad you mentioned him.
I would love to see the history of Capalino, however you say it to Brazilian dance martial arts with all mostly all kick
so glad the style I practice get more light, i tell people when they ask and theyre like "Tf is drunken kung fu?"
Great vid by the way can you do a vid of xying yi the origins of it which I also practice to this day among other systems as well
Emanuel Augustus is the drunken master of direct boxing.
The Western version of this style is when you sip a little too much Jack Daniels and then beat someone with the bottle.
Great mandarin, your pronunciation is impeccable!
With all the nonsense is good to be able to see something that makes sense to me that's human enjoyable cultural and fun The Way of the Fist the drunken style
I totally believe that alcohol gave them powers.... we I drank i had powers too
All the while I thought it was just made up for the films, thanks for the lesson!
Tell us about Gouquan/Dishuquan (Dog Style Kung Fu)
I'm chin kuki mizo❤,the scene -Rolling on the floor 😂❤
I really appreciate an accurate pronunciation guide. Just saying
Just watching this i downloaded this movie 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿
Can you please please the history on ninjas and put real real ninja stories
Did he meant to make that move or was it totally by accident
The Immortal BodhiVarjaSattva is the Tathagata
Who wins this fight?...Shun Di or Lei Wu Long?
Bajiquan & Piguaquan
drunken style is all about the state of mind.
Drunken style will not see the light in the MMA ring
Drunken fist vs highbinder who wins?
Sounds more like PCP than alcohol to me 😅
Great video
Please do a video of origins of the five animal styles, Po Chi Lam/Hung Fist would be cool, the story of Chen Zen, Father of MMA Bruce Lee/Jeet Kune Do, Pai Mei, Silk Road, and Boxer Rebellion/Opium Wars🤷♂️
the nerve block technique is this true
Fun fact, When Jet Li was studying Wushu when he was young in Beijing, One of the style that he mastered was the Drunken Fist style making him a True Master of the Drunken Fist.
The TH-cam channel OMNI FRAME covered aspects of the Drunken Boxing in the video Drunken Master II : A Martial arts masterpiece
Jean-Charles Skarbowsky, french kickboxer used to fight after drinking and smoking. Modern day drunk style master.
I spin fire poi and I regularly will start my spins with me stumbling around like I’m drunk with two giant balls of fire. My friend called it drunken master style and I proudly accepted the compliment.
Liking the Zhangjajie backdrop. Reminds me of the late 90s when I took some friends on a trip there and we got stuck trying to find our way out in darkness because they didn't heed my advice to leave before sunset. The place is far too commercialised now. Back then there was a cable car but no tourist shops or glass bridges etc. The most touristy thing they had back then was a path of raised stones that were meant to massage your feet for certain health benefits.
Few years ago I saw a Thai movie were they were using drunken Muay Thai. I don’t know if a real style or just movie choreography but it looked pretty fkn awesome
Loving all.the Jackie Chan. His old stuff was so gooooood! Fearless Hyena and Snake & Crane.
Surprised there weren’t any clips from Drunken Master II, one of my all time favorite Jackie Chan movies! The action sequences and choreography were just mind blowing
A video going through amd completely refuting all traditional Chinese medicine that is related to the killing of animals, would be quite cool.
Hello there, can you try researching the history or customs of the superstitious Ghost Marriage Ritual.
Ghost marriage is the custom or tradition for deceased people to get married with another partner, living or dead. Take my brief explanation as a grain of salt cause it's more complicated than that, since they need to follow certain procedures - like finding the right partner that matches their deceased love ones like how an arranged marriage works.
China, along with other Asian countries, like Korea, Japan and the like, have used this practice since it was believed that if a person were to die without getting married meant that they will remain single in the next life or will live their lives as a ghost since they have an unfulfilled life.
Several films have used the Ghost Marriage Ritual as a theme so it's a research worth looking into since their is no concrete explanation on when it happened but it started in China.
My opinion is, it is all for show.
i saw you promote Shen Yun at twitter,, i guess you work for them.
My co-host Jared is the MC for Shen Yun. Its a great show, you should check it out. Ben.
Made by drunken monks ?
We all should know that Sam Seed is the greatest practicer of this wonderful art form.
Kung Fu is beautiful
Question did Wong fei hung combined a drunken fist with animals system
First of all, i was not expecting your pronunciation to be point on. So awesome man
Thanks for this i have always wondered about where the style originated
Yes but those are movies it could be better if you told some more real historical facts
I'm impressed with your knowledge 👍
Have you ever heard of chicken kung fu.
You mean Xingyi?
Jackie Chan didn't learn those martial arts. His kungfu was designed to look good on camera. Jackie's best attraction is not his kungfu skill, but acrobatics and stunts.
Right he is an actor, he can do the moves, but may not be able to use them in combat or deliver a lot of power.
Kung fu is originated from Indian martial arts Kalarippayattu
Some styles are, not all. Check out our video on Boddhidharma and the origins of Shaolin
@@learnchinesenow 🙏🙏
Great video
100% proof...
Toast to Sam Seed 袁小田 🍺
Thank you
I love the training sequence in Drunken Master!
What is Lost Track Style?
Mi Zong Yi, it was practiced by Huo Yuanjia
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One thing to remember is that you can do what you learn in the state you learn it. If you learn to fight drunken you can’t be as good sober and vise versa. Keep this in mind when you study and need to take a test. You will not remember your studies if you study sleepy or drinking then take the test sober and aware you will not do good.
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Shiba Inu coin to the moon!
Gum Bei!!
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Well done, Ben!
Interesting