Dom Sigalas gives us a look through and demo of the new Yamaha MODX synthesizer. The MODX offers the same sound engine as the Montage and many of the flagship model features at a fraction of the price.
@@sallami6627 I have never said MODX had a sampler. I referred to the tone generator/ sound card specification. Any sound card doesn't matter if it is in a keyboard or inside your laptop, has quantization (16/24/32 bits) and sample rate (44/96/192/384 KHz) specification. Montage has 192KHz, MODX doesn't! ps: What is not to be confused with polyphony, what actually was the mistake I pointed out.
@@orebelo pregunta??? Se puede compensar con un interfaz de sonido se puede mejorar la calidad por lo menos asemejarse al montage??? Otra pregunta en en vivo se nota digamos en amplificadores de grandes potencia llamado sonido de escenario.?
Good video. Very tempted to add one to my home studio. Been in touch with a musical instrument supplier today. I can get a good deal on the MODX8... the more I see of it in videos the more it peaks my interest.
Hi, Against the sliders, we have a button that has 1-4 and 5-8. Does that mean that we can have, effectively, 8 parameters to be controlled with the push of the button? Thanks 😊
I have seen a bunch of demo's and it sounds really, really nice. But I can't but feel there is so much empty space on that top panel =/ That could have had more direct controls like dials or sliders. Touch screens are cool, but not quite a nice to use as a physical control imo.
That empty space is where the MODX is ………. saving expenses to give it a lower price. I've listened to both - you won't notice the difference between this and the Montage. I'm buying the MODX6
can you search for songs/sequences while the current song is playing? or do i have to stop the song, then search for another song? my older sampler/sequencers all let me search and que up the next song while the current song is playing. saves time between songs on stage.
We supply all our MODX with the Bosendorfer library on USB along with a range of other libraries, but if it was not from us then you will need to download the Imperial Grand from yamahamusicsoft.com
"...download the CS80 or other interesting stuff..." - What do you mean? Am I missing something about the Montage/MODX? Oh, nevermind, just rewatched and saw what I missed... Patch libraries take memory, and no synth has unlimited memory, (so far), so you download just the ones you want...
That's easy enough... they wouldn't be able to tout the onboard sounds that they spent so much time on. Plus it takes up valuable disk space to add more sounds.
id end up puting tape around that annoying flashing super knob lol, a pro like myself will work super knob via footswitch anyway lol, gonna see one myself tmrw but it will only be a studio addition (certainly wont replace anything)
The specification is clear that the MODX and Montage are fully compatible with software as they sue exactly the same sound engine and as long as any required samples do not exceed the 1Gb limit of the flash in the MODX. They do have their own file extensions but ultimately the software works on both items. We do have to test ourselves yet the full nature of this compatibility as sometimes we do come across oddball issues. so as of this second I would say yes - it is compatible. Bear in mind the converters in the MODX are not quite as good as the Montage so if you sit them side by side the Montage sounds richer even though the sounds themselves are ultimately the same. There is also a smaller limit on the SSS switching of 4 parts limit as opposed to 8 in the Montage.
I thought the FMXperience was just FM and not samples. Why would the sample memory come into play? I really want to get this now that I own a MODX7. Thanks
and also if your a serious player you wouldnt even touch it either, youd control it with a footswitch/pedal, they are just showing you whats straight out the box :)
I get it but that dial can be assigned to MULTIPLE parameters. Tough to do with a foot switch. "The Super Knob allows simultaneous control of up to 128 parameters in a single Performance. This means you can control nearly anything from mix functions like volume, pan and effect sends to detailed synth parameters like filters, LFOs and Operators. That’ s 128 parameters…SIMULTANEOUSLY! The Super Knob can even be assigned to a second FC7 foot controller making it easy to manipulate the sound when playing with both hands."
What is the profe that it simultaneously changes 128 parameters at once it only adds a little cutoff resonance and other instruments to the existing sound I don't think so that it changes 128 parameters, now a day's people believe whatever the manufacturera are saying about their products which might not be true..
Not quite the same thing. The Havian is a more digital piano with an arranger section although it has the synth engine of the Korg PA300. The MODX is a synth. If you need styles, go for the Havian. If you’re more I to sound design, go for the MODX. If you are a piano player, it is worth to note that you can upload a high quality sample of the Bösendorfer which is found in the higher-end Clavinovas in the MODX. By all means, go into a music shop and try both keyboards. Also, be aware that the Korg Havian 30 is several years old already. Soundwise, the MODX is better, but the Havian will be easier to play out of the box.
Carlos Lima The MODX is a slightly scaled down budget version of the Montage,for those who always wanted a Montage,but could not afford one.The MODX has the same WAV ROM,FM synth and display screen as the Montage,but for $2,000 less.....do you see the point about this equipment now?
LaVoice Brandon No...to the contrary,it is not the "norm" for a budget version of a flagship keyboard,to have all the features of a keyboard costing 3 times as much.In order for the MODX to offer all of the main features of the Montage(i.e. the WAV ROM,FM-X synth and the display screen)...some corners had to be cut,to keep the price down.The MODX is $2,000 less than the Montage and still,you expect the MODX to have ALL of the physical controls?Are you fucking shitting me??According to your YT channel,you are just a beat-maker,so the WTF would you need all of the faders and encoders for??
LaVoice Brandon You want 8 faders and 8 encoders?Then spend $2,000 more on a Montage.To the contrary....no...it is not the "norm"...for ANY company,to offer all of the physical controls of a flagship keyboard,in a budget keyboard.Don't you understand the concept of production costs??The MODX has the same WAV ROM,the same FM-X synth engine,the same display screen and all of the same presets as the Montage and goes for $2,000 and you are complaining about faders and encoders?Really?WTF?
Philo Beddoe Yamaha could add 4 more faders and encoders for additional 100-200 bucks, but they won't because they have to justify the cost of the Montage..
@@HighlandStudio91 a 300.00 controller has 8 fader and 8 encoders, I understand Production calls very will sound like you just learned this god damd word. And if you are not making the keyboard, you should not be concerned about the production cost, It's obvious that you don't produce music you just play
Yes and no.... If you are looking for a "workstation", or at the all around total capability, the Kronos is still the king of the mountain. If you are looking for straight sound creation possibilities for playing live , the Montage/MODX are both outstanding choices, that would easily hold their own against the Kronos. If I had to choose only one, I would probably go with the Kronos, just because it's a "All-in-one" synth that by itself could do just about anything I would ever need, but If I had the chance to add a Montage or a MODX to my current setup I wouldn't hesitate - it would fit nicely with the synths I already have...
I know that’s why I was super pumped to get this. I like the action on the montage but just couldn’t deal with this. Action isn’t that important to some but it is for me. Trust me i gave it all I had to deal with it but ended up returning it.
Nah, I get it man, I have an MP7 and must admit it is inspiring to play and FEELS fantastic.....but lugging it around gets old and it's secondary sounds are not so good -(as is with MOST great playing stage pianos btw). I'm going with this for a while for sure (with a KronosX-61 2nd tier), but then my role is more of an arranger and backing keys/sounds with our band.
Yea I traded in the MP7se for this at guitar center that’s probably why it felt so horrible because that action is great. I love Yamaha action on most things like motif and S90 pianos so I was thinking that it was gonna be something like that and it just wasn’t. I am curious to know how the dexibell stuff is or just go back to blowing out my back with the montage.
@@RayyMusik The $999 Korg Krome 61 borrows the German Grand Sample from the Kronos. It doesn't make it a Kronos. This is basically a more affordable cheap plastic watered down version of the Montage. This should be competitively priced at $999 for 61key. This board is targeted at an entry level hobbyist. Here in the USA I have had Guitar Center offer a new in box Montage61 for $2150. I turned it down. But I'm telling you so that if you want a Montage. $2150 May be possible depending on the time of year. Good luck ;)
Once again, no Android support? Not all of us use overpriced CrApple™ junk. Too bad, I'm a long time fan/user of Yamaha synths, and the MODX is an amazing synth, but on general principle I don't buy gear that is "CrApple™ exclusive"...
The only thing that is not Android compatible is plugin it directly into your phone to use as a soundcard. Pretty much something you are highly unlikely to do to start with. You can connect it to your PC and use any DAW of your liking. I really don't see the issue here. You are in no way limited in using the synth if you don't have a iPad.
Where's Android support for patch editing? Android MIDI integration? And why not be able to go MODX to Android to run the MODX as an external tone generator?
@@looneyburgmusic I haven't heard any mention of ipad patch editing. Not here, not in other reviews and not on the Yamaha website. Where did you hear or read that?
Haven't heard it anywhere - yet. But I guarantee we all will shortly, from either Yamaha itself, or from a third party. And the coming patch editor will be "iOS exclusive" as well.
Ok this is definitely the best MODX demo I’ve seen thus far 😭. I want one !
Yes it is
I miss you guys. You were always so helpful and patient. Im about to receive my MODX7 to go with my ROland Piano I bought from you over 5 years ago.
Dom, you are one of my favorites for instructional and these type of videos. Great playing, great details, great personality.
Very powerful synth,well presented demo.Thanks.
In short time we have so many explications and amazing sounds
Doms a great demo guy...thanks
DOM, YOU DO A GREAT JOB WITH YOUR DEMOS
Thank you very much I really think you are the best one so far
Bro video was absolutely excellent I can't wait to I get my modx 8
Dang Dom Sigalas works fast since the introductory of this synth.
It has 128 notes of polyphony, not 192 and for FM engine 64 only but Montage has 128/128. 192 is the Montage sample rate (192Khz), MODX has 44 Khz.
MODX does not have a sampler. 192Khz refers to the maximum sampling rate for Montage's sampler.
@@sallami6627 I have never said MODX had a sampler. I referred to the tone generator/ sound card specification. Any sound card doesn't matter if it is in a keyboard or inside your laptop, has quantization (16/24/32 bits) and sample rate (44/96/192/384 KHz) specification. Montage has 192KHz, MODX doesn't!
ps: What is not to be confused with polyphony, what actually was the mistake I pointed out.
@@orebelo pregunta??? Se puede compensar con un interfaz de sonido se puede mejorar la calidad por lo menos asemejarse al montage??? Otra pregunta en en vivo se nota digamos en amplificadores de grandes potencia llamado sonido de escenario.?
@@orebelo se compararía al la calidad de sonido del korg krome??? Y las teclas serán las mismas que krome88 saludos de Argentina
Good video. Very tempted to add one to my home studio. Been in touch with a musical instrument supplier today. I can get a good deal on the MODX8... the more I see of it in videos the more it peaks my interest.
Hi,
Against the sliders, we have a button that has 1-4 and 5-8.
Does that mean that we can have, effectively, 8 parameters to be controlled with the push of the button?
Thanks 😊
That was helpful. Thank you.
very impressive
wish you a pleasant weekend
friendly regards Frank
I have seen a bunch of demo's and it sounds really, really nice. But I can't but feel there is so much empty space on that top panel =/ That could have had more direct controls like dials or sliders. Touch screens are cool, but not quite a nice to use as a physical control imo.
ThaTyger price is very good though. Hence the more plastic casing and lack of filled in space.
That empty space is where the MODX is ………. saving expenses to give it a lower price. I've listened to both - you won't notice the difference between this and the Montage. I'm buying the MODX6
They should've placed some drum pads there like most other synths/midi controllers.
The first sound the demo introduction begins with is part of the MODX library? If yes, what sound is it?
Very good review ! Could you tel me what's the sound name of the at 7:52 ? It's a beautiful sound, very inspiring !
What about the output resolution?. If I record in 24 bit/48khz will this synth be convenient for me?
Just to confirm for you the USB digital output rate is 44.1kHz at 24 bit.
Dear Dom, i like your videos véry much!! Only, why is your voice in stereo and the instrument is nót?
Much blessings, Adri from Holland.
I love my MODX 8
Wonderfilled!
can you search for songs/sequences while the current song is playing? or do i have to stop the song, then search for another song? my older sampler/sequencers all let me search and que up the next song while the current song is playing. saves time between songs on stage.
That sounds very useful, but I have yet to be lucky enough to deal with that luck
Qual a opinião sobre as teclas do MODX61 E MODX76? Elas são iguais às do MOXF6 ? Obrigado!
Whats that musical piece you played at 5:30 to 6:10
,while showing awm2 sounds???
Please!
Narendra Mohan adagio albinoni
@@RaffaeleKey thanks a lot!!! Its absolutely mesmerizing
So how does this modx8 compare to mx88...? Opinions appreciated..
Is there any way to loop sequences of notes? Kind of live arpeggiator?
What is the sound at 5:25-6:10? I know it's a piano, but what is the setting? I love it.
CFX Piano and orchestral combo - when I get chance I will try see what exact performance name is if you like.
@@achamilton yes please, I'd appreciate it thanks.
It's called CFX & Orch and it's one of the stock sounds. The Super Knob brings in more of the orchestra amongst other things :) Hope this helps!
@@DomSigalas yes thank you
Where can I find the bosedorfer samples because they did not come with the modx 88 or is this only downloadable from sound mondo?
We supply all our MODX with the Bosendorfer library on USB along with a range of other libraries, but if it was not from us then you will need to download the Imperial Grand from yamahamusicsoft.com
It says I have t buy this because it only comes with the montage 678 is this correct?
No it is free for MODX owners. You mau need to email them for assistance. You may even find a download on a forum somewhere.
Got 'em (Bosendorfer) had to login to make the code work, Thanks
Sounds good. But why have people have to download the CS80 or other interesting stuff? Just include the building blocks stock.
"...download the CS80 or other interesting stuff..." - What do you mean? Am I missing something about the Montage/MODX?
Oh, nevermind, just rewatched and saw what I missed... Patch libraries take memory, and no synth has unlimited memory, (so far), so you download just the ones you want...
That's easy enough... they wouldn't be able to tout the onboard sounds that they spent so much time on. Plus it takes up valuable disk space to add more sounds.
id end up puting tape around that annoying flashing super knob lol, a pro like myself will work super knob via footswitch anyway lol, gonna see one myself tmrw but it will only be a studio addition (certainly wont replace anything)
Then maybe consider a used EX5R for your studio then?
How do you create the Vangelis brass sound from blade runner on MODX?
Just download the Bank CS80 as he said.
WOT no aftertouch?
Thanks! Is this compatible with the FMXperience library?
The specification is clear that the MODX and Montage are fully compatible with software as they sue exactly the same sound engine and as long as any required samples do not exceed the 1Gb limit of the flash in the MODX. They do have their own file extensions but ultimately the software works on both items. We do have to test ourselves yet the full nature of this compatibility as sometimes we do come across oddball issues. so as of this second I would say yes - it is compatible.
Bear in mind the converters in the MODX are not quite as good as the Montage so if you sit them side by side the Montage sounds richer even though the sounds themselves are ultimately the same. There is also a smaller limit on the SSS switching of 4 parts limit as opposed to 8 in the Montage.
I thought the FMXperience was just FM and not samples. Why would the sample memory come into play? I really want to get this now that I own a MODX7. Thanks
That blinking blue dial is so distracting.
That's nothing, check out the ultra-bright tempo light on the Korg Krome and Kronos... that light can burn a hole in the back of your eyes...
I have seen comments that it can be disabled in the menu, so you can just turn it off. I do like that it changes color when you turn it.
and also if your a serious player you wouldnt even touch it either, youd control it with a footswitch/pedal, they are just showing you whats straight out the box :)
I get it but that dial can be assigned to MULTIPLE parameters. Tough to do with a foot switch. "The Super Knob allows simultaneous control of up to 128 parameters in a single Performance. This means you can control nearly anything from mix functions like volume, pan and effect sends to detailed synth parameters like filters, LFOs and Operators. That’ s 128 parameters…SIMULTANEOUSLY! The Super Knob can even be assigned to a second FC7 foot controller making it easy to manipulate the sound when playing with both hands."
You can disable it
Only your voice tells me, that you also work with doctermix... 😂
When do we see the MODX on Claudio's channel?
It's already there :) Cheers!
What about your demo.... in mono ???
I really hate the flashing light of the wonder knob, can I disable the lightshow?
Yes the light can be changed and disabled in the system settings
Modx 6/7 or 8???
No understand, for what it, if have montage?
If you have a montage you do not need the modx.
Эта штука стоит раза в два дешевле.
What is the profe that it simultaneously changes 128 parameters at once it only adds a little cutoff resonance and other instruments to the existing sound I don't think so that it changes 128 parameters, now a day's people believe whatever the manufacturera are saying about their products which might not be true..
Why couldn't it change every single parameter simultaneously? CPU power and capability has reached a level where pretty much anything is possible.
You *can* change up to 128 parameters, you don’t need to do it in every patch!
On the flip side it can just control some lovely reverb.
Wow
U have beautiful hands
K3C lol
Vs Korg havian 30, this is best?
Not quite the same thing. The Havian is a more digital piano with an arranger section although it has the synth engine of the Korg PA300. The MODX is a synth. If you need styles, go for the Havian. If you’re more I to sound design, go for the MODX. If you are a piano player, it is worth to note that you can upload a high quality sample of the Bösendorfer which is found in the higher-end Clavinovas in the MODX. By all means, go into a music shop and try both keyboards. Also, be aware that the Korg Havian 30 is several years old already. Soundwise, the MODX is better, but the Havian will be easier to play out of the box.
vbdx66 thank you
I see nothing new about this equipment. Maby i am missing the point.
Carlos Lima The MODX is a slightly scaled down budget version of the Montage,for those who always wanted a Montage,but could not afford one.The MODX has the same WAV ROM,FM synth and display screen as the Montage,but for $2,000 less.....do you see the point about this equipment now?
High sound quality is mostly the point, with the same synth architdcture as Yamaha's current flagship.
It’s a good place to start. You probably wouldn’t need it if you already have an older board in its price range.
Radio gaga... killer
This keyboard NEEDS 8 fades and 8 encoders. That's the normal. I cannot believe they put this out with 4 faders
Always Yamaha psych game for the Montage buyers"See,you have 8 faders and and weighted bricks inside" :)
LaVoice Brandon No...to the contrary,it is not the "norm" for a budget version of a flagship keyboard,to have all the features of a keyboard costing 3 times as much.In order for the MODX to offer all of the main features of the Montage(i.e. the WAV ROM,FM-X synth and the display screen)...some corners had to be cut,to keep the price down.The MODX is $2,000 less than the Montage and still,you expect the MODX to have ALL of the physical controls?Are you fucking shitting me??According to your YT channel,you are just a beat-maker,so the WTF would you need all of the faders and encoders for??
LaVoice Brandon You want 8 faders and 8 encoders?Then spend $2,000 more on a Montage.To the contrary....no...it is not the "norm"...for ANY company,to offer all of the physical controls of a flagship keyboard,in a budget keyboard.Don't you understand the concept of production costs??The MODX has the same WAV ROM,the same FM-X synth engine,the same display screen and all of the same presets as the Montage and goes for $2,000 and you are complaining about faders and encoders?Really?WTF?
Philo Beddoe Yamaha could add 4 more faders and encoders for additional 100-200 bucks, but they won't because they have to justify the cost of the Montage..
@@HighlandStudio91 a 300.00 controller has 8 fader and 8 encoders, I understand Production calls very will sound like you just learned this god damd word. And if you are not making the keyboard, you should not be concerned about the production cost, It's obvious that you don't produce music you just play
I wish the Super Knob was really really large and protruded awkwardly high on the board and was a throbbing fleshy color.
gross
8 Roland Keytar fanboys disliked this video
:D
gawd that keytar is a mess! sent it right back!
Dom >>> Blake
now can this win over korg krome?
You're joking right? The Krome is a mid-range workstation that is over five years old.
If you had said Korg Kronos, then we would have a match up...
@@looneyburgmusic
I don't know much about these keyboards
I wasn't joking I asked that seriously
And now as you told, can that match a Kronos
Yes and no.... If you are looking for a "workstation", or at the all around total capability, the Kronos is still the king of the mountain. If you are looking for straight sound creation possibilities for playing live , the Montage/MODX are both outstanding choices, that would easily hold their own against the Kronos. If I had to choose only one, I would probably go with the Kronos, just because it's a "All-in-one" synth that by itself could do just about anything I would ever need, but If I had the chance to add a Montage or a MODX to my current setup I wouldn't hesitate - it would fit nicely with the synths I already have...
I thought the awesome Yamaha MOXF8 beat Korg Krome ages ago LMAO
The Krome is a mid-range... The Kronos is a "Flagship" synth... The MOXF probably better than a Krome, but no where near as good as the Kronos.
The action is horrible on the 88 I was so disappointed
Uhhh, then by the Montage.....that's not the point man. it's the SOUND and portability for the performing/gigging musician.
I know that’s why I was super pumped to get this. I like the action on the montage but just couldn’t deal with this. Action isn’t that important to some but it is for me. Trust me i gave it all I had to deal with it but ended up returning it.
Nah, I get it man, I have an MP7 and must admit it is inspiring to play and FEELS fantastic.....but lugging it around gets old and it's secondary sounds are not so good -(as is with MOST great playing stage pianos btw). I'm going with this for a while for sure (with a KronosX-61 2nd tier), but then my role is more of an arranger and backing keys/sounds with our band.
Yea I traded in the MP7se for this at guitar center that’s probably why it felt so horrible because that action is great. I love Yamaha action on most things like motif and S90 pianos so I was thinking that it was gonna be something like that and it just wasn’t. I am curious to know how the dexibell stuff is or just go back to blowing out my back with the montage.
Are you talking about the keyboard ?
Radio gaga
Looks so cheap plastic
NEOISON Isn’t music about sound rather than about look?
Sure, a Hammond B3 looks more impressive, but you won’t want to carry it.
@@RayyMusik The $999 Korg Krome 61 borrows the German Grand Sample from the Kronos. It doesn't make it a Kronos. This is basically a more affordable cheap plastic watered down version of the Montage. This should be competitively priced at $999 for 61key. This board is targeted at an entry level hobbyist. Here in the USA I have had Guitar Center offer a new in box Montage61 for $2150. I turned it down. But I'm telling you so that if you want a Montage. $2150 May be possible depending on the time of year. Good luck ;)
NEOISON It's not about looks. You don't need to have the chassis outlive the internals by 200 years as it remains in tact in a landfill somewhere.
@@rodneylee4026 The difference between men and boys are the prices of their toys. ;)
Plastic that keeps a monster inside!
Once again, no Android support? Not all of us use overpriced CrApple™ junk.
Too bad, I'm a long time fan/user of Yamaha synths, and the MODX is an amazing synth, but on general principle I don't buy gear that is "CrApple™ exclusive"...
The only thing that is not Android compatible is plugin it directly into your phone to use as a soundcard. Pretty much something you are highly unlikely to do to start with. You can connect it to your PC and use any DAW of your liking. I really don't see the issue here. You are in no way limited in using the synth if you don't have a iPad.
Where's Android support for patch editing? Android MIDI integration? And why not be able to go MODX to Android to run the MODX as an external tone generator?
@@looneyburgmusic I haven't heard any mention of ipad patch editing. Not here, not in other reviews and not on the Yamaha website. Where did you hear or read that?
Haven't heard it anywhere - yet. But I guarantee we all will shortly, from either Yamaha itself, or from a third party. And the coming patch editor will be "iOS exclusive" as well.
Get over it, mate. Nobody gives a fuck what you think of Apple. It's YOUR problem.
strange choice of music to play to demo it, what the hell were you playing??? very very dull and boring.
Nearly £1500 affordable??? WTF!!! Is this a JOKE!!!???!
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