That’s what I’m talking about! You playing it ! Other videos I watch they always play out of space music and I don’t get the chance to hear the sounds , that’s how you do it Bro, thank you for this video I been looking for someone to really play it and you it. Thank you! God Bless
Excellent video! I love my MODX. Best synth and best value synth I have ever owned. I love the new update that adds DAW remote and a cool smart fm morpher. The MODX with CUBASE is all I will ever need. If I ever did upgrade, it would be to a MONTAGE, but really no reason to, unless I hit the lottery, lol.
The combination of Cubasis (iOS) and MODX is very powerful. Since the MODX has a good (class compliant) audio/MIDI interface, you can send audio/MIDI data to and from the DAW without any perceptible latency. Best of both worlds, using MODX sounds combined with iOS instruments such as Pianoteq (pianos are a weak point of MODX/Montage), the sequencing and even mastering power of a DAW....and no mouse-clicking required. However, I recently upgraded from MODX8 to Montage (classic) 8, because I didn't really enjoy playing on the MODX8 keybed. I miss the "Rhythm Pattern" button, but I like having 8 buttons for switching the scenes.
I appreciated this video, it is clear, accurate, and the comparisons with other keyboards are appropriate. I bought a Fantom as I simply couldn't get past the bad feel of the MODX key bed. I don't have any problems with the 'dated' Fantom (or FA) sounds, nor I think do folks out in the audience really care. It's really more of a 'producer-y' complain. A teensy tweak of a knob is enough to change an old sound into a brand new one.
As someone who was looking for a keyboard for years as mostly a bass player, the modx is EASILY the best value for your buck. It really deserves all the sales its been getting. It soars on a live stage or just playing around solo.
Totally agree. I love my MODX, and I use it for EVERYTHING. My other synths get used on and off depending on what I'm working on, but my MODX is the workhorse that I use for everything. You should mention the hundreds of drum sounds in it - they are very high quality, and include a complete TR-808 and TR-909 sample set. Also, if it doesn't have a sound that you want - you can likely find it, or record it yourself and load it into it. I do wish that it had the eight scene buttons sliders and poly aftertouch keybed that the Montage has...but not enough to spend an extra $2000 for a Montage. :)
You can get a poly aftertouch keyboard for a lot less than the difference between the Montage and the MODX. I'm using an SY85 to control mine and it's also given me a load more control over the sequencer.
Completely agree! Best decision that Yamaha made. They broke the unspoken rule that a mid-range synth cannot be as good as their flagship board. Although it’s not quite a Montage, it’s pretty damn close for a fraction of the price. Of course you can see where they cut costs with components but you get almost exactly the same brain. It has also become the gateway drug to the Montage.
How cool is it that Yamy has featured a fully blown (and extended) FM synthesis engine? This alone almost makes this keyboard worth the admission price.
Nice. I learned a lot! You touched on the Roland FA's dated digital PCM sounds from 20 years ago. I wholeheartedly agree; however, if you reach back an additional 15-20 years, you'll find the Roland classic synths and drum machines that changed popular music forever and that modern electronic musicians still love and use. The FA is flush with these sounds. It's a veritable "Roland's Greatest Hits" package and great value when you consider what having all those individual classic Roland synths (or boutiques) would cost. Well worth considering for electronic musicians. Of course, Yamaha has a grand legacy of its own with FM synthesis and the MODX can't be beaten for getting that 80s specific sound when it some to synths. Thanks for the video!
The Fantom O series is out now, and is the new value leader in my opinion. User sampling, 256 poly, 2gb storage, full tonewheel engine, USB stereo all 16 parts, VA model expansions available, decked-out control surface. I do have the MODX and like it for the FM sounds and ambient pads.
I recently bought this keyboard, with which I allowed too many years go by with the technology changing so much, which was a big jump from the Yamaha 9000 pro. In your reference to the keybed, I have to say you are absolutely right. The 9000 pro, IMO, is a great keybed to use in comparison to this one. Disappointing yes, but it fitted my budget at the time. Thank you for your informative video Darrick.
So true. The keybed was the only thing which attracted criticism really. I would’ve bought a module version of this in a heartbeat. The sound module market just must be dead nowadays.
I think The MODx only has 8 MIDI channel outs. I haven't bought a new keyboard in over 20 years so recently picked up myself a Yamaha MODX8 and just love the sounds. I pair this with my EMU Vintage keys module and my Elektron Digitone Keys. I love FM synthesis. The Emu allows me the opportunity to have Moog and Oberheim samples. On my next summer vacation Ill sample everything into the Yamaha
Thanks for posting. Agree, the best value for the money on the MODX. The MODX is very editable; if you really spend the time with tailoring the sounds like the way you prefer, you can get the most out of it compared to other workstations on the market (for the price). The weakest part are the organs and the keyboard action. The organs are not a modeled; however, if you spend the time tweaking them, you will find a useful organ. The keyboard action is weak but I use the MODX as a top board and assign sounds via midi it to a nice feeling controller. Really happy with the MODX as a live setup. It just not my preference to use VSTs and laptops and cable and power adapters all over the place...
With the new update the sequencer makes this a killer workstation now, and not forgetting the ability to load your own samples and have them stored on flash memory too! Well done Yamaha.
Hi Darrick, which one of these boards do you think would make a good midi controller. I have been using a Roland FA08 and had a Roland Jupiter 80. I’d rather that they have their own sound library so I can compose without having to load a sound in DAW.. but some of these have weighted key which is good for piano but bad when you need to input drums.. the dedicated midi keyboards on the market feel a bit too flimsy and cheap… watched a couple of your reviews and wonder how you think of it.
I would use a Montage personally if I were to use a keyboard with on board sounds as a MIDI controller. The Roland Fantom would also be a good choice due to excellent DAW integration.
Ok, I had a Ensoniq VFXSD for years. I moved to a Korg Karma when it came out. About 22 years later got the Yamaha MODX 6. I love it, it's great. I would like to be able to audition sounds on the latest track while the sequence is playing. Now I want a Korg Wavestate or a Hydrasynth and maybe a Akai Mpc
If I was buying it to use as my main keyboard for playing piano, strings, pads etc, I would get the MODX+. If it was going to be for mainly "synth" sounds I would get the Fantom-0.
I picked one up second hand for less than half price, with nice case, instructions and PS. . I began to enjoy this instrument straight away. Ideas for creating tracks were instant and exciting. This is my first Yamaha synth and it seems to be light years ahead of anything else i have tried so far. Entertainment wise, 10 out of 10.It is a keeper for now. .
Great FM sounds, loads of decent drums, great performance tools and realtime controls that feel great.. Easy to see why people love them. I really like mine, but the "sequencer" still has me puzzled after quite a long time. I'm old skool so I much prefer linear like the SY or EX Yam's.
The Best selling synth right now it’s crazy!!! I got so mad when it got released when I got the Montage 8 but hey it’s worth it props to Yamaha. Now they’ve got a new update OS V2.5 for the MODX and OS V3.5 for the Montage check it out! It has a new feature.
Indeed! I have seen the new update features looks pretty cool for sure. Even the 2.0 update which I installed was a game changer. Technically it took it from a performance synth to a workstation. Thanks for taking the time to comment! I appreciate it.
@@darrickkeels6387 yes, definitely download the version 2.5 update for your MODX. You will not be disappointed. The new morphing feature alone is worth the download.
Jimmy Jenkinson that is understandable, Cheap keybeds are a non starter. Some dont like the Nord keybeds but when I have played the stage at Guitar center i just love it
I have the exact set up. They compliment each other nicely. I love the MODX8 as a stand alone as well. Some don't like the pianos, but honestly they sound fine to me. I play Jazz/Fusion/Latin and Top 40 and it plays well in all of those genres. For the money you can't beat it. And not to mention it isn't even near as hard to move as my KRONOS which I love but it kills my back! :) Thank for the Vid! Great Job!
Sir Darrick 💯 you hit the🎯 on the Roland sounds vs Yamaha MODX (Dated vs Modern) 🙏😎. Your knowledge of your gear( technically) is astonishing!. I thought the keybed was cheesy. Thanks again😎
Its exactly what I have been saying for years .. Roland makes some excellent instruments, no doubt, but it really bothers me that in those 1100 or so sounds of their sound source , like he points out here half of the sounds is so well known in your mind because they havn't been updated since the first U-110 module and JV and D-70 wich the latter I used for several years back in the 90'ies some of these sounds are not 20 but almost 30 years old now
I was just watching this review again, which is an excellent review. Totally agree with Darrick's points. There is no dispute about if the Montage (more than double the price) has a better keybed than the MODX, but when comparing it to other keybeds, I've found many to be a lot worse than the MODX. Even some that were also more than $1000 like the MODX. I've had my MODX6 two and a half years now. I basically switched from a Korg premium keybed. I really don't think the MODX6 keybed has affected my playing much vs the premium keybed that was my main keybed previously. I think saying it's the same as a $100 toy keyboard is a stretch. Otherwise I agree 100% with Darrick's comments. You might be able to find a $100 keyboard with as good a keybed, but most won't be. There are still new model boards aimed that the semi-professional market that have a much worse keybed than the MODX. Korg has the Triton LE in the earlier 2000s. It's keybed felt truly horrible, and the keys literally flexed and felt like they were gonna snap off. It sold for similar money as the MODX. Yet I didn't hear many complaining about the awful keybed in it, but the reviewers should have been. I tried a couple other current model synths with much worse keybeds than the MODX, and they were a lot more than $100. Darrick makes a great point that the included MODX sounds are often better than both the Korg Kronos & the Roland FA's, probably the two biggest competitors when the MODX first came out. Wither you prefer Montage sounds (MODX) or Kronos sounds is personal preference. Both are very powerful modern synth engines. But one thing is clear, and why I love the MODX. The MODX is by far, the most powerful synthesizer keyboard that is both affordable and very light weight. Korg does not offer a competitor to the MODX. Their new Nautilus is neither a much lighter weight alternative to the Kronos, nor nearly as affordable as the MODX. So the MODX is the clear winner on so many levels. The Roland FA at the time the MODX came out, was Roland's competitor in a light weight synth, but it's technology is much older than the MODX. Their new Fantom surely would compete with power, but not price or weight. Both very important factors to many gigging musicians like me. Both the MODX & Kronos have tons of sound collections made for them. Since the MODX is compatible with the Montage, MOTIF series, DX7, TX816 & TX802, I would not be surprised if more sound collections exist in a format compatible with the MODX than the Kronos. Either way, you won't be short on the number of sound collections you can choose from to add.
I watched parts of this video again to refresh my memory. I went to a local dealer and was able to compare the MODX next to the new Fantom 07/08. I must confess I was disappointed with the MODX keybed. It is not horrible, but my PSR-SX900 keybed is IMHO better than the MODX; the Fantom 08 is weighted so no comparison, but the Fantom 07 feels much better than the MODX. Derrick's review of the Fantom 0 Series is spot on that the Fantom 0 is a better choice than the MODX overall. The user interface is also a little easier for me than the MODX; I realize it is all subjective, but that keybed would be a problem for me.
@@luisphoto3 I've checked out the Fantom 0, and feel the MODX much better serves my needs, and is still king when it comes to value. Not that the Fantom 0 isn't good too. It largely comes down to the sounds. Do you play rock or synth pop? Do you use sampled sounds? Read my comments on Derrick's post about the Fantom 0 vs the MODX for more details.
@@luisphoto3 As you mentioned, it is subjective. My main task in most of my bands has been a lead player. Lead synthesizer & lead organ solos. I prefer the lighter action of my MODX6 than I do the action of the Fantom 06 or 07. I do play piano on it too, and have plenty of other keybed in my other keyboards If I want to MIDI to them or use them. Although for piano I'd agree the Fantom 0 keybed would be better action for piano, I still prefer the piano sounds on the MODX. The MODX6/7 keybed is light action, but not so light that it's no good like some kebeds I have tried where there is next to zero resistance. Overall I have no complaints at all with the MODX6 keybed, and my main keybed I previously used for many years was a Korg with a premium 61 keybed. I also have a Roland with a premium 76 keybed. I'm not wild about the Roland action on their keybeds, though I don't have any real gripes about it either. The action on a keybed really depends on the kind of material you play on it. Although I've only spent an hour with a Fantom 0 so far (but have spent much time listening to it's sounds via Roland VST's which are largely identical, or online videos), so far I prefer the user interface of the user interface of the MODX. Both the MODX and the Montage have the same "large" touch screen with large touch screen user interface. I really love it! Much better than most other keyboards for navigating. A larger screen is easier to see (especially when your wearing contacts), and a larger screen is much easier to press with your fingers. I found the Fantom 0 much more confusing to sort through it's various sounds, and I've found other people who own both keyboards later saying exactly the same thing. It is much easier to sort sounds via the touch screen (especially considering it's a larger touch screen) than it is to use the category buttons on the Fantom 0. I'm able to find an audition sounds much easier on the MODX. There is nothing "easy", intuitive or obvious about the operation of the Fantom 0 when you have to press the Zone button & then the "2" button under the release knob to enter B3 mode to find the B3 sounds, besides the terrible Zen-Core organ sounds I found when I pressed the organ category button. What is easy or obvious about that? And so much for everything runs in one mode. It doesn't. There are a number of reasons why I prefer the MODX to the Fantom 0. Instead of re-typing or copying my long thread about the topic here, please click on Darrick's other video comparing the Fantom 0 to the MODX. While I highly respect Darrick's comments as he really knows his stuff, andd so do I. We're both been into synths for decades and own a number of keyboards from Korg, Roland, Yamaha and others. I simply present an alternative point of view about the Fantom 0, and how the MODX better fits my own needs and likely a lot of other people too. I still think the Fantom 0 is a great keyboard, and I'd have absolutely no problem recommending one to people if I feel it best fits their needs, which it will for some people. I think the easiest way to sum it up is, if you play in 80s/70s rock cover bands as I do, I feel the MODX is the better keyboard for the majority of users. If you play synth pop, electronica, techno or house music, the Fantom 0 is probably the better keyboard for that kind of music. But I hope the Fantom 0 does well, and a bunch of sound collections eventually are made for it as I can load most of them into my VST's and would still benefit.
I did indeed use it but often times I had it connected to another keyboard if I was playing piano and EP sounds. However, nowadays I rarely use it live. I use Montage instead. Yes the MODX is lighter but I'd rather just take one keyboard than two just because the keybed is of poor quality. I am on the verge of selling it honestly.
Although I shy away from workstation keyboards but I do like the modx however the keybed is not awesome. But for the price they had to cut costs somewhere and for the price its an amazing deal
@@yannic2248 The MODX8 bed is really nice, and even more so if you play piano. The 6 and 7 beds feel very cheap and are a bit too well sprung for the light weight of the keys. They could probably be fixed with some counterweights, but it's a lot of messing around.
17:42: I believe you can actually expand on the faders and knobs with a MIDI control surface like Korg nanocontrol 2 and connect it via the USB to the MODX. Would that be an option for you? MODX is a real good steal, considering it is the only one that one can get with modern features. I wonder what the future looks like for the other companies.
Thank you I play a lot of 50s, 60s,70s music...and as an alternative to playing an arranger KB like Yamaha SX900 etc, I thought I would try to migrate to a synth, workstation etc like the Modx using the arps/patterns? thoughts? also is the key bed better on the MODx7?
It's not a "problem." Sounds and keybeds are a matter of taste and preference. Nothing more than an opinion. It is an awesome board and I use it live all the time
Another Great! & unbiased opinion. Now that gigs are lockdown I will have the time to reprogram all the cover sounds, but first need your input choosing between MODX7 & Korg Nautilus 7. Cyber week is still on the horizon in getting 20% off. Thank you
Yeah, I was pissed because I was set on the RD 2000. Went into the store and played the MODX and was pissed ! Ordered the MODX8 . Your demo was excellent.
question do you need a very special UsB key to synthesize I have the same synth how they do what they do sounds that join songs from varieties like Bon Jovi for example or Toto Jean-Michel Jarre have- they a software with thanks
I read somewhere that the factory preset sounds are voiced (EQed, effects,...) differently on MODX and Montage. Supposedly to make Montage sound better. Is that true?
I use my MODX6 as both a top board and a sound module. I have a Casio PX 350 88 key on the bottom (only weighs 24lb and has a decent key bed) and use a midi router to route its midi output to ch 9-16. When I setup a program, I can make layers, splits etc for each scene on ch 9-16 for the lower weighted keyboard and ch 1-8 play from the MODX keyboard. Often I just have ch 9 set to the S700 piano or the single channel CFX. But I can layer pads etc. The downside is much less effects on the upper bank of channels. I can switch programs in the midi router to use 5- 8 as well if for some reason I need more inserts on the weighted keyboard but then I only have 4 channels for the upper board.
Yes in my opinion it does feel less cheap. However, the MODX6 doesn't feel all that different from other "entry level" professional keyboards in its price range. You may want to give it a try.
Thanks for this review, I actually just placed a bid on eBay for a used one. About the keybed, I actually like the keybed on the MODX6, its a lot better than my IK iRig Keys MiDi controller that I currently have. Thanks again.
What about the audio output resolution? The fact that it is a 44khz output does not bother you? I tested the 88 keys version, the keybed is really nice...but the output is a problem for me because I always record in 24bit/48khz resolution
Nice review, love the freestyle playing. I have the MODX7 and find the keybed good to use (perhaps they have updated it?). The only criticism would be each key has too much sideways slack but something you get used to. Some sounds, as with all boards, are a little bit thin, but layering/changing can add immense depth. Best thing about this board is the dynamic depth, giving great expression. Knocks my Krome out of the park.
Hey everyone, Ian here. I was the same as Robert Gianchino, only with the PSR 7000, using the 16 track to the max and creating some great compositions as a home studio. Can you do the same with the MoDX, and record single instruments as a home studio work station and create a full band, or is this more for LIVE performances ?
Derrick [sorry for all the questions I've been asking but your videos are super helpful!!] Did you find the MODX keybed difficult/problematic? I'm still weighing between the MODX and Fantom 0, and not easy to find them side by side to compare. Thanks!
Thinner black keys can be good though sometimes so you don't take down 3 keys accidentally when trying to hit the white key between (my ensoniq TS12 has black keys that're too close together and it really slows you down
Thanks a lot for great review. I just ordered a MODX 7, and I guess I will have it by monday. But I also have 2 Motif (7 and 8), - great keys and great response. I love Yamaha. I hope there is old-school MIDI on the MODX?
I'm buying a modx8 for the better keyboard, I figured that it was cheaper than buying a 7 or a 6 and getting another full-sized keyboard. And the upgrade adds a whole sequencer!
Keep in mind that you could get an 88 key MIDI controller that has aftertouch, which is something none of the MODX keybeds include. And on the used market, it might actually be cheaper to buy a MODX6 and an 88 key MIDI controller. However, aftertouch has not been well supported by the Montage sound collections or in modern keyboards in general unlike the old days.
@@n8goulet True, but I do have a Novation Bass Station 2 so at a pinch I could do a lead line with aftertouch on that if I was desperate for aftertouch. My modx8 (which I now have!) is so chock-full of other features its not something I'm going to miss.
G'day Darrick It's Phil from Australia. I just bought a modx8 and absolutely love it except the CFX pianos were very flat sounding out of the box. I've managed to change the EQ on the First cfx piano /e piano on the list to sound like the Audition, however I'd be keen to know how you make your piano sounds so Rich and so Good. What did you do to make your CFX sound so good??
Hey Darrick... Is this keyboard is good for live if you're using this as a primary keyboard?is there any issues related when we are changing sounds during live Or tone change cut off? Please help me out of this
It is a great live keyboard. However as far as seamless transitions it can do it but there are limits. I think if your sounds has more than 4 "parts" you cannot do seamless transitions.
I certainly wouldn't shy away from this keyboard even as a beginner or newcomer. Basic features like layering, splitting, playing a drum track , and of course playing sounds from the large sound library is fairly straightforward. The other deep parameters can be learned as the need arises or you can go step by step.
Hi again Darrick. I have a question: is it fair to compare Kronos vs modx/montage number of synth engines = 9 vs 2 ? Maybe the Yamaha can do the same with only 2 engines ? Except for polyphony as you already explained. But if we consider sound quality can we say that Yamaha does as well as Korg with 2 engines vs 9 ? Thank you for your advice :)
So that is a bit of a tricky question. Having 9 sound engines is definately a strong point for the Korg Kronos. This provides a lot of flexibility and a plethora of sound design options that are simply hard to reproduce using traditional sample based methods alone. With that said the AWM2 sound engine is very very powerful. And if you know what you're doing you can get amazing results. There are a ton of filters, LFO's,resonance, EQ, motion control effects etc, I doubt you will exhaust its capabilities and as far as the FMX engine is concerned, Yamaha is the king of the FM world.
@@darrickkeels6387 Thank you 🙏. I understand that with the Kronos some sounds are easier to craft because they have a dedicated sound engine. One of the rare side on which the Kronos is more easy than the modx it seems.
Will it store individual transpose-settings for each scene/program or whatever it’s called? And will those settings go back to neutral/normal key whenever the next scene is loaded...? And does that goes for the arpeggiator as well? Thanks. Great review btw 😊
The MODX7 is exactly the same as the MODX6 except it is 76 keys. The MODX8 is a decent action. While it does not feel "high end" it certainly does not feel cheap. Feels more like a mid-grade action in my opinion. If I needed an 88 weighted keybed, I'd have NO problem purchasing a MODX8.
My keyboard was so old when I pressed a key a bird came out and tweeted the note. Cost me a fortune in seed. The Yamaha modx is so much better and cleaner. Thanks Darrick.
Besides better build quality and more options, more parts, endless rotary knobs, more sample storage, for me the keybed is an absolute no go. I even wonder how people can play on this cheapo feeling keys. I want to enjoy when playing my keyboards instead of feeling like an operator who operates the keyboard and presses the keys. The keybed difference between the Montage 6/7 and MoDx respectively is like playing electronig drums from the early nineties versus the real ones. This of course applies to all low class keyboards from other companies too (Korg Chrome, Roland Fa 06, and so on).
Hi Great video. I bought in last July and would like to buy others synth to my gear, but many times realizing MODX can be programmed to get the sounds which are GREAT, and kept my money. You pointed out most of the sounds are dated, but it is to say we can load lot of new samples, and either by Soundmondo or Yamaha with new releases, free, or from Easysounds by pay, you can completely renew your sound library.
@@darrickkeels6387 Yes! really sorry about confusion. Another question raised to me is I can not hear the sound module when playing a midi tracks from Garage Band, have you experienced this ? is it normal, even if I am able to use USB audio and record one midi track with the MODX into GarageBand that I can play to any vst but MODX connect ! Thanks and congrats for your videos
Have a question, cause that is true the keybed, i am looking to complement my set with a good 88 heavy keys. Is it worth to resell and upgrade to MODX 8 ? So except Montage 8 or Kronos 8, would you have something from your fingers experience to recommend? Thanks
What you could do is keep the MODX6 and buy a midi controller with a decent keybed. For example, the M-Audio Hammer 88 is relatively inexpensive but has a quality keybed.
Nice work, very informative video. I'm actually looking to buy that particular keyboard but I have a question for you. I'm used to the "old school" way of putting arrangements together. In the 80's and 90's I used the Roland Juno 1 and an Alesis MMT8, Ensoniq SD1 and the Ensoniq EPS16 plus, both sequencer and sampler with incredible sounds and ability. No DAW! I am a little bit worried from what you said about the "Keybed" not being up to par, but I see you still liked it enough to go ahead and add it to your gear. My question is, can I get similar production from the Yamaha MoDX? Generally speaking, will I be able to arrange and mixdown complete songs without using a DAW? Back in those days DAW's were around but mostly used by educated studio professionals. I tried Cakewalk back in 1988 but to me it took too long and messed up my creative flow. Even recently I tried Ableton Live and still found it a bit confusing. I'm hoping this is the keyboard I'm looking for. Knowledge Is power, thanks for passing it on!
Ah yes...the Ensoniq EPS16 Plus, I had one as well. The MODX is a great keyboard but its sequencer is quite limited. It is a pattern-based sequencer and definately doesn't have an "old school" workflow. The MODX (and Montage) are really performance synths. The sequencer it has came in an update and was only put in due to customers griping at the fact there was no onboard sequencer. Take it from a keyboardist who also owned an Ensoniq EPS16 Plus, you will be frustrated trying to record and mixdown entire arrangements if that is your frame of reference. I think you would be happier with a Roland FA workstation. It has great sounds and a traditional linear sequencer. I have recorded entire songs with that machine and it reminds me of an old school way of working, no DAW needed. Also the Korg Krome workstation has a traditional linear sequencer as well. The Yamaha is not a workstation at heart but a digital performance synth designed to be used with a DAW when you really want to do some serious recording. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching. I appreciate it.
@@darrickkeels6387 I sure did! I picked up the Roland FA 06 because it seem to fit my need and my budget! Also, it didn't take me too long to get familiar with it. I still have a lot to learn though. I'm actually a drummer who picked up the keys back in the 80's to be able to write my own vibes. You know how you're playing in a band and you hear something the guitar should be doing or the keys should be doing, but they never do! That's when I decided to get a little 4 track and start making it happen! Well I'm gonna see if there's any creativity left and make the best of it! ThanQ Darrick
Is the Yamaha MODX the Ultimate Value Synth? Most definitely yes! I have the MODX8. It's capabilities are amazing. The potential for music and sound creativity is limitless!
Great review 👍 Have been using a Triton Extreme 61 as a top board for nearly twenty years. Looking for a lighter, more portable board and the MODX 6 could be the answer. It’s just the keybed though. Have tried the MODX 7 and the keys I thought were light but fast. Could get used to them but the Yamaha FS action on the Triton takes some beating.
Awesome video, thanks. I'm seriously considering either an MODX6 plus a nice new DP (P-515 or RD-88) rather than just another new stage piano (CP-88 or RD-2000). I've always had stage pianos (currently an MP7) and never had a two-tier setup before, but it feels like this would be more flexible. Are there any downsides to purely driving this with a separate DP's keyboard? Will the patches respond even better to a good quality keybed via MIDI? Often I'll be playing somewhere that already has a decent digital piano, so the thought of just having to bring a MODX6 and hook up with MIDI cables, and leaving the 'piano' at home is really tempting. Cheers!
always find the keyboard feel them connect sounds either internal or external. make sure the keyboard has the level of control you want. ootherwise you wind up with boxes all over the place. i suggest you start by using the digital piano available at the venue, take a korg nanocontrol2 and rack modules for synth or other sounds. then decide what you wish you had to make your workflow easier for you.
Hello everyone. I would like an honest opinion from fellow keyboard players out there. I have done my research and I definitely want the sounds from the modx. But.. I know the keybeds from me reading reviews are not so good. So I have an idea.. how about having the modx6 on top, and as my main piano on the bottom, the studiologic sl88 grand keyboard controller. From my personal opinion, I think it’s a pretty good idea! The great sounds from the modx plus Keyboard action on top and my sl88 grand for my main pianos and e pianos etc, what y’all think? Doing this for church performances
My wife and I are trying out the MODX7 on 45 day trial from Guitar Center. She is the keys player. Only had about a week and we’re boomers and not very tech savvy so just starting to get into the manual. We’re in 60’s - 80’s band and Im looking for better brass, violin, guitar, 80’s synth sounds, etc. than what we have now (Hammond SK1). Also, one main thing I want is a sequencer and my understanding is that with updates, (2.0 or 2.5 or something?), it added a sequencer. But some comments here sound like they’re saying it doesn’t have a sequencer or a “full” sequencer anyway. Whats the difference between what this has and a “real” sequencer? Thanks.
It has a "pattern" sequencer - like older hardware sequencers where you build songs by layering looped patterns - rather than a linear left-to-right sequencer like Cubase or Logic on a computer. You can chain patterns together to make songs. A pattern sequencer isn't visual, you don't see events on a timeline. Yamaha figured most people would rather use a computer these days so MODX integrates really well with Cubase in particular, which Yamaha now own. I think you'll be really pleased with the sounds compared to the SK1. It does however have quite a steep learning curve because it's so deep. The manual is pretty brief. I learnt to use the MODX properly by just searching on TH-cam for tutorials. Enjoy!
Hello, can you elaborate on this 45 day trial? Is this like a rental? Or are you saying that you paid full price and can return it if you don't like it?
GOT A QUESTION FOR YA ABOUT THE MODX. IT HAS ALL OF THE SAME SOUNDS. BUT WHY IS IT SO MUCH WEAKER THATN THE MONTAGE. DO YOU HAVE ANY FIX FOR THIS? OR DO I HAVE TO GO IN AND MANULLY TWEAK THIS MYSELF? IF SO DO YOU HAVE A VIDEO SHOWING HOW TO DO THIS?
The MODX is a more rounded keyboard than the Nord Electro 6. The Electro is great for Clavs, EP's, Acoustic Piano, Organs and some light synth stuff. But if you need lead guitars, bass, drums, horns, strings, woodwinds, etc you will find the Nords are lacking high quality sounds in those departments (well they do have great strings but they are limited to 34 voice polyphony.) Also layering and split capabilities on the Nord is limited too. Simple, easy to use, practical but limited nonetheless. Now to your actual question...LOL...I think in terms of sound quality the MODX and the Kronos are equals. There are sounds like better in the Kronos (like the EP's). But there are sounds I like better on the MODX (i.e electric guitars). What really separates these two instruments is their other capabilities and workflows. The Kronos is more "powerful." A full-featured sequencer, sampler, 9 sound engines versus 2, a 60 GB SSD for storing sounds/samples, more robust setlist functionality, etc. However, it really comes down to your needs. If you have Kronos money you should probably be looking at the Montage instead. Do you need a full-featured sequencer on your keyboard? Do you do a lot of sampling? Do you have complicated sounds that require you to have access to 16 sounds all at once versus 8? If the answer to these questions is no, you may not need all the "extra power" of the Kronos. The Kronos touch screen and user interface is very dated but gets the job done. If you are just comparing sounds however that will come down to your personal opinion.
Also Kronos is sooo long in the tooth now Korg must surely be superceding it soon. Both Yamaha and Roland have updated their flagships - Montage and the new Fantom. Kronos is still very capable but Korg could drop a succesor at any moment.
The Kronos has more engines than the MODX or Montage, but I'm largely unimpressed with those engines such as the organ modeling, and was never much of a fan of the MS-20, Poly6, etc. I think the sampling engines are the most important along with the FM ability, and either Korg or Yamaha stack up pretty well. I use my MODX for sampling & FM, and my soft synths for engines of famous analog synths I actually cared about, like those from Moog, Oberheim, Roland & ARP. And I use organ modeling on the laptop that is generally a lot better than what the Kronos provides. So my advice is buy the light weight, affordable MODX and get a laptop and soft synths to fill any gaps and you'll come out ahead of the Montage.
Holy cow, you still have a SY85? That was the first synthesizer I owned, back in 1993. Sold it when I got a Triton Extreme (and sampled my favorite SY85 voices for nostalgia).
Cool overview!! My opinion is exactly the same. I still haven't bought one of them (MODX or Montage 6) because it's a hard decision since I currently have a MoXF 6. I hate the MODX keybed and I don't like how the MODX looks (= pretty cheap and simple). But my biggest argument against the Montage is the weight... I don't want to carry this! So I still have to think about it :)
How does the piano sound? When I compared this with MX88 there’s much difference. Il confused between MX88 and MODX. I’m keenly looking at good pianos and synth.
@@darrickkeels6387 Is it possible for a workstation or digital synthesizer to have the ability to change voice combinations/splits like Electones/Arrangers? I want features in synths and arrangers in the meantime. :(
thanx for the video Bought the MODX Nov 2019.. can't stand the piano...months of tweaking..any suggestions..ended up adding the Motif ES Rack with plg piano ex board to fix...
The sad reality is you simply may not like the character of the sound. However, have you tried going to the element level and starting with the raw piano samples and building a piano from "scratch" yourself?
You can't find a version of the modelled pianos you like? This thing is a beast. I mean the touch of this cheap action is never going to work. But sonically. This thing can do anything.
@@darrickkeels6387 yes I have and I have gotten a sound more usable, BUT still thin. Sounds brittle on first hitting notes like a toy piano. the character of the sound just isn't full rounded to me. thanx for your suggestion
That is a great review; I like a natural and peaceful way how you share your thoughts!
With the FM e piano’s YOU CAN COMBINE the Rhodes samples for awesome electric piano’’s.
You get straight to the point. No 3 minute intro or nothing, good job, great video.
That’s what I’m talking about! You playing it ! Other videos I watch they always play out of space music and I don’t get the chance to hear the sounds , that’s how you do it Bro, thank you for this video I been looking for someone to really play it and you it. Thank you! God Bless
Excellent video!
I love my MODX.
Best synth and best value synth I have ever owned.
I love the new update that adds DAW remote and a cool smart fm morpher.
The MODX with CUBASE is all I will ever need.
If I ever did upgrade, it would be to a MONTAGE, but really no reason to, unless I hit the lottery, lol.
It is certainly my best value synth. By far! Thanks for watching!
Thank you for sharing
The combination of Cubasis (iOS) and MODX is very powerful. Since the MODX has a good (class compliant) audio/MIDI interface, you can send audio/MIDI data to and from the DAW without any perceptible latency. Best of both worlds, using MODX sounds combined with iOS instruments such as Pianoteq (pianos are a weak point of MODX/Montage), the sequencing and even mastering power of a DAW....and no mouse-clicking required.
However, I recently upgraded from MODX8 to Montage (classic) 8, because I didn't really enjoy playing on the MODX8 keybed. I miss the "Rhythm Pattern" button, but I like having 8 buttons for switching the scenes.
I appreciated this video, it is clear, accurate, and the comparisons with other keyboards are appropriate. I bought a Fantom as I simply couldn't get past the bad feel of the MODX key bed. I don't have any problems with the 'dated' Fantom (or FA) sounds, nor I think do folks out in the audience really care. It's really more of a 'producer-y' complain. A teensy tweak of a knob is enough to change an old sound into a brand new one.
I didnt even used to consider the Yamahas fir synths, was looking at korgs and rolands, now i realise this is the balance between to two👍
You can control live sets by foot as well (a pedal into "assignable") :) Super useful
Nice video, couldn't agree more!
As someone who was looking for a keyboard for years as mostly a bass player, the modx is EASILY the best value for your buck. It really deserves all the sales its been getting. It soars on a live stage or just playing around solo.
It is a great value
Totally agree. I love my MODX, and I use it for EVERYTHING. My other synths get used on and off depending on what I'm working on, but my MODX is the workhorse that I use for everything.
You should mention the hundreds of drum sounds in it - they are very high quality, and include a complete TR-808 and TR-909 sample set. Also, if it doesn't have a sound that you want - you can likely find it, or record it yourself and load it into it. I do wish that it had the eight scene buttons sliders and poly aftertouch keybed that the Montage has...but not enough to spend an extra $2000 for a Montage. :)
If I could afford a Montage and a Kronos I'd have both.
You can get a poly aftertouch keyboard for a lot less than the difference between the Montage and the MODX.
I'm using an SY85 to control mine and it's also given me a load more control over the sequencer.
Absolutely right !!!
No polyphonic aftertouch in Montage keyboards.
Completely agree! Best decision that Yamaha made. They broke the unspoken rule that a mid-range synth cannot be as good as their flagship board. Although it’s not quite a Montage, it’s pretty damn close for a fraction of the price. Of course you can see where they cut costs with components but you get almost exactly the same brain. It has also become the gateway drug to the Montage.
You are right about the gateway drug because I really want the better keybed now lol! Thanks for stopping by my channel again.
Hate that term
LOVE my live sets and performances from narfsounds.com! Thank you, Narf! Now ... back to this excellent video from Darrick!
This is a timely, indepth, thorough musical analysis that allows both novices & experts to understand.
How cool is it that Yamy has featured a fully blown (and extended) FM synthesis engine? This alone almost makes this keyboard worth the admission price.
Well, i'll stick to my older MOXF and added a Korg opsix ! Thats an "altered" FM beast and it loads DX7 patches :-))
Best keyboard I ever purchased hands down I totally 👍
Nice. I learned a lot! You touched on the Roland FA's dated digital PCM sounds from 20 years ago. I wholeheartedly agree; however, if you reach back an additional 15-20 years, you'll find the Roland classic synths and drum machines that changed popular music forever and that modern electronic musicians still love and use. The FA is flush with these sounds. It's a veritable "Roland's Greatest Hits" package and great value when you consider what having all those individual classic Roland synths (or boutiques) would cost. Well worth considering for electronic musicians. Of course, Yamaha has a grand legacy of its own with FM synthesis and the MODX can't be beaten for getting that 80s specific sound when it some to synths. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the compliment! I appreciate it.
The Fantom O series is out now, and is the new value leader in my opinion. User sampling, 256 poly, 2gb storage, full tonewheel engine, USB stereo all 16 parts, VA model expansions available, decked-out control surface. I do have the MODX and like it for the FM sounds and ambient pads.
Yup the Fantom-0 is now the way to go in my opinion.
@@darrickkeels6387 How about Fantom-0 vs MODX8 ?
I recently bought this keyboard, with which I allowed too many years go by with the technology changing so much, which was a big jump from the Yamaha 9000 pro. In your reference to the keybed, I have to say you are absolutely right. The 9000 pro, IMO, is a great keybed to use in comparison to this one. Disappointing yes, but it fitted my budget at the time. Thank you for your informative video Darrick.
Thank you for watching! I appreciate it!
A rack-mount version would be a great add-on to use with a more formidable flagship workstation like Kronos, Montage, Fantom or Nord‼️
So true. The keybed was the only thing which attracted criticism really. I would’ve bought a module version of this in a heartbeat. The sound module market just must be dead nowadays.
I think The MODx only has 8 MIDI channel outs. I haven't bought a new keyboard in over 20 years so recently picked up myself a Yamaha MODX8 and just love the sounds. I pair this with my EMU Vintage keys module and my Elektron Digitone Keys. I love FM synthesis. The Emu allows me the opportunity to have Moog and Oberheim samples. On my next summer vacation Ill sample everything into the Yamaha
Thanks for posting.
Agree, the best value for the money on the MODX. The MODX is very editable; if you really spend the time with tailoring the sounds like the way you prefer, you can get the most out of it compared to other workstations on the market (for the price). The weakest part are the organs and the keyboard action. The organs are not a modeled; however, if you spend the time tweaking them, you will find a useful organ. The keyboard action is weak but I use the MODX as a top board and assign sounds via midi it to a nice feeling controller. Really happy with the MODX as a live setup. It just not my preference to use VSTs and laptops and cable and power adapters all over the place...
With the new update the sequencer makes this a killer workstation now, and not forgetting the ability to load your own samples and have them stored on flash memory too!
Well done Yamaha.
Yes the constant upgrades is putting this "budget" keyboard way ahead of its peers.
Hi Darrick, which one of these boards do you think would make a good midi controller. I have been using a Roland FA08 and had a Roland Jupiter 80. I’d rather that they have their own sound library so I can compose without having to load a sound in DAW.. but some of these have weighted key which is good for piano but bad when you need to input drums.. the dedicated midi keyboards on the market feel a bit too flimsy and cheap… watched a couple of your reviews and wonder how you think of it.
I would use a Montage personally if I were to use a keyboard with on board sounds as a MIDI controller. The Roland Fantom would also be a good choice due to excellent DAW integration.
Ok, I had a Ensoniq VFXSD for years. I moved to a Korg Karma when it came out. About 22 years later got the Yamaha MODX 6. I love it, it's great. I would like to be able to audition sounds on the latest track while the sequence is playing. Now I want a Korg Wavestate or a Hydrasynth and maybe a Akai Mpc
If you had to pick one would you choose the modx+ or the Roland fantom 06?
If I was buying it to use as my main keyboard for playing piano, strings, pads etc, I would get the MODX+. If it was going to be for mainly "synth" sounds I would get the Fantom-0.
@@darrickkeels6387 Ok. Thanks for the reply.
man looks good, I need sounds and to make em twist my way
I picked one up second hand for less than half price, with nice case, instructions and PS. . I began to enjoy this instrument straight away. Ideas for creating tracks were instant and exciting. This is my first Yamaha synth and it seems to be light years ahead of anything else i have tried so far. Entertainment wise, 10 out of 10.It is a keeper for now. .
It's a really nice keyboard and especially great at half price!
Great FM sounds, loads of decent drums, great performance tools and realtime controls that feel great.. Easy to see why people love them.
I really like mine, but the "sequencer" still has me puzzled after quite a long time.
I'm old skool so I much prefer linear like the SY or EX Yam's.
very good review!! you made a good job :-)!! i love the modx 😊👍
The Best selling synth right now it’s crazy!!! I got so mad when it got released when I got the Montage 8 but hey it’s worth it props to Yamaha. Now they’ve got a new update OS V2.5 for the MODX and OS V3.5 for the Montage check it out! It has a new feature.
Indeed! I have seen the new update features looks pretty cool for sure. Even the 2.0 update which I installed was a game changer. Technically it took it from a performance synth to a workstation. Thanks for taking the time to comment! I appreciate it.
@@darrickkeels6387 yes, definitely download the version 2.5 update for your MODX. You will not be disappointed. The new morphing feature alone is worth the download.
Your so great at reviews you should be sponsored and hired by these companies
The cheap keybed is what made me buy a used Montage 6 instead of a brand new MODX. And I am glad I did!
1000% agree the keyboard is terrible but after you play it long enough you get used to it. I agree to buy a used montage.
Modx is amazing keyboard. I'm not missing the montage. Don't dis my keyboard. Montage is over weight over priced keyboard.
good move its way better
Jimmy Jenkinson that is understandable, Cheap keybeds are a non starter. Some dont like the Nord keybeds but when I have played the stage at Guitar center i just love it
I have the exact set up. They compliment each other nicely. I love the MODX8 as a stand alone as well. Some don't like the pianos, but honestly they sound fine to me. I play Jazz/Fusion/Latin and Top 40 and it plays well in all of those genres. For the money you can't beat it. And not to mention it isn't even near as hard to move as my KRONOS which I love but it kills my back! :) Thank for the Vid! Great Job!
Michael Diaz Yeah same the Pianos are not that good I contacted Yamaha about it
Thank you for watching!
Sir Darrick 💯 you hit the🎯 on the Roland sounds vs Yamaha MODX (Dated vs Modern) 🙏😎. Your knowledge of your gear( technically) is astonishing!. I thought the keybed was cheesy. Thanks again😎
Thank you! I appreciate it!
Its exactly what I have been saying for years .. Roland makes some excellent instruments, no doubt, but it really bothers me that in those 1100 or so sounds of their sound source , like he points out here half of the sounds is so well known in your mind because they havn't been updated since the first U-110 module and JV and D-70 wich the latter I used for several years back in the 90'ies some of these sounds are not 20 but almost 30 years old now
Good job Darrick. Just ordered mine.
thank you for your honest opinion. and may I know which model do you recommend?
I was just watching this review again, which is an excellent review.
Totally agree with Darrick's points. There is no dispute about if the Montage (more than double the price) has a better keybed than the MODX, but when comparing it to other keybeds, I've found many to be a lot worse than the MODX. Even some that were also more than $1000 like the MODX.
I've had my MODX6 two and a half years now. I basically switched from a Korg premium keybed. I really don't think the MODX6 keybed has affected my playing much vs the premium keybed that was my main keybed previously. I think saying it's the same as a $100 toy keyboard is a stretch. Otherwise I agree 100% with Darrick's comments. You might be able to find a $100 keyboard with as good a keybed, but most won't be. There are still new model boards aimed that the semi-professional market that have a much worse keybed than the MODX. Korg has the Triton LE in the earlier 2000s. It's keybed felt truly horrible, and the keys literally flexed and felt like they were gonna snap off. It sold for similar money as the MODX. Yet I didn't hear many complaining about the awful keybed in it, but the reviewers should have been. I tried a couple other current model synths with much worse keybeds than the MODX, and they were a lot more than $100.
Darrick makes a great point that the included MODX sounds are often better than both the Korg Kronos & the Roland FA's, probably the two biggest competitors when the MODX first came out. Wither you prefer Montage sounds (MODX) or Kronos sounds is personal preference. Both are very powerful modern synth engines. But one thing is clear, and why I love the MODX. The MODX is by far, the most powerful synthesizer keyboard that is both affordable and very light weight. Korg does not offer a competitor to the MODX. Their new Nautilus is neither a much lighter weight alternative to the Kronos, nor nearly as affordable as the MODX. So the MODX is the clear winner on so many levels. The Roland FA at the time the MODX came out, was Roland's competitor in a light weight synth, but it's technology is much older than the MODX. Their new Fantom surely would compete with power, but not price or weight. Both very important factors to many gigging musicians like me. Both the MODX & Kronos have tons of sound collections made for them. Since the MODX is compatible with the Montage, MOTIF series, DX7, TX816 & TX802, I would not be surprised if more sound collections exist in a format compatible with the MODX than the Kronos. Either way, you won't be short on the number of sound collections you can choose from to add.
I watched parts of this video again to refresh my memory. I went to a local dealer and was able to compare the MODX next to the new Fantom 07/08.
I must confess I was disappointed with the MODX keybed. It is not horrible, but my PSR-SX900 keybed is IMHO better than the MODX; the Fantom 08 is weighted so no comparison, but the Fantom 07 feels much better than the MODX.
Derrick's review of the Fantom 0 Series is spot on that the Fantom 0 is a better choice than the MODX overall. The user interface is also a little easier for me than the MODX; I realize it is all subjective, but that keybed would be a problem for me.
@@luisphoto3 I've checked out the Fantom 0, and feel the MODX much better serves my needs, and is still king when it comes to value. Not that the Fantom 0 isn't good too.
It largely comes down to the sounds. Do you play rock or synth pop? Do you use sampled sounds?
Read my comments on Derrick's post about the Fantom 0 vs the MODX for more details.
@@luisphoto3 As you mentioned, it is subjective.
My main task in most of my bands has been a lead player. Lead synthesizer & lead organ solos. I prefer the lighter action of my MODX6 than I do the action of the Fantom 06 or 07. I do play piano on it too, and have plenty of other keybed in my other keyboards If I want to MIDI to them or use them. Although for piano I'd agree the Fantom 0 keybed would be better action for piano, I still prefer the piano sounds on the MODX. The MODX6/7 keybed is light action, but not so light that it's no good like some kebeds I have tried where there is next to zero resistance. Overall I have no complaints at all with the MODX6 keybed, and my main keybed I previously used for many years was a Korg with a premium 61 keybed. I also have a Roland with a premium 76 keybed. I'm not wild about the Roland action on their keybeds, though I don't have any real gripes about it either.
The action on a keybed really depends on the kind of material you play on it.
Although I've only spent an hour with a Fantom 0 so far (but have spent much time listening to it's sounds via Roland VST's which are largely identical, or online videos), so far I prefer the user interface of the user interface of the MODX.
Both the MODX and the Montage have the same "large" touch screen with large touch screen user interface. I really love it! Much better than most other keyboards for navigating. A larger screen is easier to see (especially when your wearing contacts), and a larger screen is much easier to press with your fingers. I found the Fantom 0 much more confusing to sort through it's various sounds, and I've found other people who own both keyboards later saying exactly the same thing. It is much easier to sort sounds via the touch screen (especially considering it's a larger touch screen) than it is to use the category buttons on the Fantom 0. I'm able to find an audition sounds much easier on the MODX.
There is nothing "easy", intuitive or obvious about the operation of the Fantom 0 when you have to press the Zone button & then the "2" button under the release knob to enter B3 mode to find the B3 sounds, besides the terrible Zen-Core organ sounds I found when I pressed the organ category button. What is easy or obvious about that? And so much for everything runs in one mode. It doesn't.
There are a number of reasons why I prefer the MODX to the Fantom 0. Instead of re-typing or copying my long thread about the topic here, please click on Darrick's other video comparing the Fantom 0 to the MODX. While I highly respect Darrick's comments as he really knows his stuff, andd so do I. We're both been into synths for decades and own a number of keyboards from Korg, Roland, Yamaha and others. I simply present an alternative point of view about the Fantom 0, and how the MODX better fits my own needs and likely a lot of other people too. I still think the Fantom 0 is a great keyboard, and I'd have absolutely no problem recommending one to people if I feel it best fits their needs, which it will for some people.
I think the easiest way to sum it up is, if you play in 80s/70s rock cover bands as I do, I feel the MODX is the better keyboard for the majority of users. If you play synth pop, electronica, techno or house music, the Fantom 0 is probably the better keyboard for that kind of music. But I hope the Fantom 0 does well, and a bunch of sound collections eventually are made for it as I can load most of them into my VST's and would still benefit.
Excellent review. Do you use the MODX keyboard when you play it if the keybed is that bad?
I did indeed use it but often times I had it connected to another keyboard if I was playing piano and EP sounds. However, nowadays I rarely use it live. I use Montage instead. Yes the MODX is lighter but I'd rather just take one keyboard than two just because the keybed is of poor quality. I am on the verge of selling it honestly.
Although I shy away from workstation keyboards but I do like the modx however the keybed is not awesome. But for the price they had to cut costs somewhere and for the price its an amazing deal
Yeah, the keybed lets it down a bit..
I play mine using an old SY85 for the most part.
I assume you are not talking about the keybed of the MODX8 as it has a graded hammer action?
@@yannic2248 The MODX8 bed is really nice, and even more so if you play piano. The 6 and 7 beds feel very cheap and are a bit too well sprung for the light weight of the keys.
They could probably be fixed with some counterweights, but it's a lot of messing around.
17:42: I believe you can actually expand on the faders and knobs with a MIDI control surface like Korg nanocontrol 2 and connect it via the USB to the MODX. Would that be an option for you?
MODX is a real good steal, considering it is the only one that one can get with modern features. I wonder what the future looks like for the other companies.
Great review can you go over using the the patterns/arps , super knobs uses,etc, and sounds like Saxes, Trumpets , Brass, too?
It will be my next video more than likely
Thank you I play a lot of 50s, 60s,70s music...and as an alternative to playing an arranger KB like Yamaha SX900 etc, I thought I would try to migrate to a synth, workstation etc like the Modx using the arps/patterns? thoughts? also is the key bed better on the MODx7?
Didnt recognize the problem with the keybed, bc I got the MODX8 which has the weighted hammer action. Love my MODX a lot. It's my favorite board!
It's not a "problem." Sounds and keybeds are a matter of taste and preference. Nothing more than an opinion. It is an awesome board and I use it live all the time
Another Great! & unbiased opinion. Now that gigs are lockdown I will have the time to reprogram all the cover sounds, but first need your input choosing between MODX7 & Korg Nautilus 7. Cyber week is still on the horizon in getting 20% off. Thank you
Excellent review.
Yeah, I was pissed because I was set on the RD 2000. Went into the store and played the MODX and was pissed ! Ordered the MODX8 . Your demo was excellent.
question do you need a very special UsB key to synthesize I have the same synth how they do what they do sounds that join songs from varieties like Bon Jovi for example or Toto Jean-Michel Jarre have- they a software with thanks
I read somewhere that the factory preset sounds are voiced (EQed, effects,...) differently on MODX and Montage. Supposedly to make Montage sound better. Is that true?
I use my MODX6 as both a top board and a sound module. I have a Casio PX 350 88 key on the bottom (only weighs 24lb and has a decent key bed) and use a midi router to route its midi output to ch 9-16. When I setup a program, I can make layers, splits etc for each scene on ch 9-16 for the lower weighted keyboard and ch 1-8 play from the MODX keyboard. Often I just have ch 9 set to the S700 piano or the single channel CFX. But I can layer pads etc. The downside is much less effects on the upper bank of channels. I can switch programs in the midi router to use 5- 8 as well if for some reason I need more inserts on the weighted keyboard but then I only have 4 channels for the upper board.
Value wise, yes its a great value.
I own Motif XF8, I’m debating on Replacing it with Montage8 OR keeping it and getting MODX61 to compliment it. Hard to decide
I would definitely play the MODX before buying one to make sure the build quality and Keynes are okay for you
Hi what keyboard stand do you have there ??
Thanks for the review! Do you know if the keybed on the MODX8 (weighted keys) feels less cheap?
Yes in my opinion it does feel less cheap. However, the MODX6 doesn't feel all that different from other "entry level" professional keyboards in its price range. You may want to give it a try.
Thanks for this review, I actually just placed a bid on eBay for a used one. About the keybed, I actually like the keybed on the MODX6, its a lot better than my IK iRig Keys MiDi controller that I currently have. Thanks again.
I loved the brass bro!Awesome!
What about the audio output resolution? The fact that it is a 44khz output does not bother you? I tested the 88 keys version, the keybed is really nice...but the output is a problem for me because I always record in 24bit/48khz resolution
No it doesn't because I only use it for live play personally.
Brother should we buy the MODX compromising with the bad quality of keys whereas the keys play the greatest role in playing a good music . plz guide.
Nice review, love the freestyle playing.
I have the MODX7 and find the keybed good to use (perhaps they have updated it?). The only criticism would be each key has too much sideways slack but something you get used to.
Some sounds, as with all boards, are a little bit thin, but layering/changing can add immense depth. Best thing about this board is the dynamic depth, giving great expression. Knocks my Krome out of the park.
Interesting point, the keybed of my MOXF6 feels pretty sturdy in terms of sideways movement. I wonder, if both boards have the same keybed.
Can you suggest an affordable Speaker to get the output sound?
Hola tengo motif ES
Vale la pena cambiarlo por MODX?
Hey everyone, Ian here.
I was the same as Robert Gianchino, only with the PSR 7000, using the 16 track to the max and creating some great compositions as a home studio.
Can you do the same with the MoDX, and record single instruments as a home studio work station and create a full band, or is this more for LIVE performances ?
Derrick [sorry for all the questions I've been asking but your videos are super helpful!!]
Did you find the MODX keybed difficult/problematic? I'm still weighing between the MODX and Fantom 0, and not easy to find them side by side to compare. Thanks!
In my opinion it does feel cheap but I still have it and still play it. So I wouldn't call it problematic.
Great review, it helped me with my purchase decision! Best bang for buck workstation well said!
Thinner black keys can be good though sometimes so you don't take down 3 keys accidentally when trying to hit the white key between
(my ensoniq TS12 has black keys that're too close together and it really slows you down
Thanks a lot for great review. I just ordered a MODX 7, and I guess I will have it by monday. But I also have 2 Motif (7 and 8), - great keys and great response. I love Yamaha. I hope there is old-school MIDI on the MODX?
There is the old school standard 5-pin din MIDI connectors on the back. Congratulations on your purchase!
I'm buying a modx8 for the better keyboard, I figured that it was cheaper than buying a 7 or a 6 and getting another full-sized keyboard. And the upgrade adds a whole sequencer!
Keep in mind that you could get an 88 key MIDI controller that has aftertouch, which is something none of the MODX keybeds include. And on the used market, it might actually be cheaper to buy a MODX6 and an 88 key MIDI controller. However, aftertouch has not been well supported by the Montage sound collections or in modern keyboards in general unlike the old days.
@@n8goulet True, but I do have a Novation Bass Station 2 so at a pinch I could do a lead line with aftertouch on that if I was desperate for aftertouch. My modx8 (which I now have!) is so chock-full of other features its not something I'm going to miss.
G'day Darrick
It's Phil from Australia. I just bought a modx8 and absolutely love it except the CFX pianos were very flat sounding out of the box. I've managed to change the EQ on the First cfx piano /e piano on the list to sound like the Audition, however I'd be keen to know how you make your piano sounds so Rich and so Good. What did you do to make your CFX sound so good??
What you heard on this video is actually the preset CFX Grand 😂. No edits whatsoever.
@@darrickkeels6387 Its my bad sound perception. Swapped from FA08. Lol
Hey Darrick...
Is this keyboard is good for live if you're using this as a primary keyboard?is there any issues related when we are changing sounds during live Or tone change cut off?
Please help me out of this
It is a great live keyboard. However as far as seamless transitions it can do it but there are limits. I think if your sounds has more than 4 "parts" you cannot do seamless transitions.
Ive got the roland fa06 hows the keybed of the modx6 compated to the fa06
Thanks so much for the video. Is the MODX suitable for synthesizer beginner/newcomer or does it have a steep learning curve? Thanks
I certainly wouldn't shy away from this keyboard even as a beginner or newcomer. Basic features like layering, splitting, playing a drum track , and of course playing sounds from the large sound library is fairly straightforward. The other deep parameters can be learned as the need arises or you can go step by step.
Hi again Darrick. I have a question: is it fair to compare Kronos vs modx/montage number of synth engines = 9 vs 2 ? Maybe the Yamaha can do the same with only 2 engines ? Except for polyphony as you already explained. But if we consider sound quality can we say that Yamaha does as well as Korg with 2 engines vs 9 ? Thank you for your advice :)
So that is a bit of a tricky question. Having 9 sound engines is definately a strong point for the Korg Kronos. This provides a lot of flexibility and a plethora of sound design options that are simply hard to reproduce using traditional sample based methods alone. With that said the AWM2 sound engine is very very powerful. And if you know what you're doing you can get amazing results. There are a ton of filters, LFO's,resonance, EQ, motion control effects etc, I doubt you will exhaust its capabilities and as far as the FMX engine is concerned, Yamaha is the king of the FM world.
@@darrickkeels6387 Thank you 🙏. I understand that with the Kronos some sounds are easier to craft because they have a dedicated sound engine. One of the rare side on which the Kronos is more easy than the modx it seems.
hi darrick.. what do you think abput the key bed of the modx8, especially ... ? in compare with the roland fa08
I find the FA08 keybed a bit "spongy" and slow. It is hard for me to play fast and accurate on the FA08 as opposed to the MODX8. But that's just me.
@@darrickkeels6387 thanks.. i aprecciate that opinion... soon i will buy one of it.. im inclinade for the MODX8 actually :)
Will it store individual transpose-settings for each scene/program or whatever it’s called? And will those settings go back to neutral/normal key whenever the next scene is loaded...? And does that goes for the arpeggiator as well? Thanks. Great review btw 😊
Indeed you can. This works for the arpeggiator as well. And thank you!
Hi and thank you so much for this realllly nice review. Do you know about the modx8 keybed: is it as crap as the one you the others ?
No. It is a better feel. Not "premium" but it definitely feels like a keybed for a professional.
As someone that plays a mo6, would the modx6/7 keybed be a downgrade?
Yes
How does this compare to the mofx6 keybed..anyone knows..trying to decide between this and the moxf6...moxf having the sounds from the motif XF
Hi Darrick, are you able to comment on or have any experience with the MODX 76 or 88 keybed? Thanks
The MODX7 is exactly the same as the MODX6 except it is 76 keys. The MODX8 is a decent action. While it does not feel "high end" it certainly does not feel cheap. Feels more like a mid-grade action in my opinion. If I needed an 88 weighted keybed, I'd have NO problem purchasing a MODX8.
great review i just mine and still learning it.....
It takes awhile to learn. But once you understand Yamaha's way of thinking it becomes easier.
My keyboard was so old when I pressed a key a bird came out and tweeted the note. Cost me a fortune in seed.
The Yamaha modx is so much better and cleaner.
Thanks Darrick.
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Why buy Montage when you get its cousin for a lot less. I am so in love with my MODX6 it gives me what ever montage offers.
Besides better build quality and more options, more parts, endless rotary knobs, more sample storage, for me the keybed is an absolute no go. I even wonder how people can play on this cheapo feeling keys. I want to enjoy when playing my keyboards instead of feeling like an operator who operates the keyboard and presses the keys. The keybed difference between the Montage 6/7 and MoDx respectively is like playing electronig drums from the early nineties versus the real ones. This of course applies to all low class keyboards from other companies too (Korg Chrome, Roland Fa 06, and so on).
Hi Great video. I bought in last July and would like to buy others synth to my gear, but many times realizing MODX can be programmed to get the sounds which are GREAT, and kept my money. You pointed out most of the sounds are dated, but it is to say we can load lot of new samples, and either by Soundmondo or Yamaha with new releases, free, or from Easysounds by pay, you can completely renew your sound library.
I believe you misunderstood me. I said the sounds in the FA series of workstation by Roland are dated.
@@darrickkeels6387 Yes! really sorry about confusion. Another question raised to me is I can not hear the sound module when playing a midi tracks from Garage Band, have you experienced this ? is it normal, even if I am able to use USB audio and record one midi track with the MODX into GarageBand that I can play to any vst but MODX connect ! Thanks and congrats for your videos
Have a question, cause that is true the keybed, i am looking to complement my set with a good 88 heavy keys. Is it worth to resell and upgrade to MODX 8 ? So except Montage 8 or Kronos 8, would you have something from your fingers experience to recommend? Thanks
What you could do is keep the MODX6 and buy a midi controller with a decent keybed. For example, the M-Audio Hammer 88 is relatively inexpensive but has a quality keybed.
@@darrickkeels6387 thanks that is great. I just look also at the Studiologic SL88 which has a better connectivity outputs vs M Audio ...
SL 88 has after touch but M Audio is 8 pounds heavier so maybe a better hammered keybed
Nice work, very informative video. I'm actually looking to buy that particular keyboard but I have a question for you. I'm used to the "old school" way of putting arrangements together. In the 80's and 90's I used the Roland Juno 1 and an Alesis MMT8, Ensoniq SD1 and the Ensoniq EPS16 plus, both sequencer and sampler with incredible sounds and ability. No DAW! I am a little bit worried from what you said about the "Keybed" not being up to par, but I see you still liked it enough to go ahead and add it to your gear. My question is, can I get similar production from the Yamaha MoDX? Generally speaking, will I be able to arrange and mixdown complete songs without using a DAW? Back in those days DAW's were around but mostly used by educated studio professionals. I tried Cakewalk back in 1988 but to me it took too long and messed up my creative flow. Even recently I tried Ableton Live and still found it a bit confusing. I'm hoping this is the keyboard I'm looking for. Knowledge Is power, thanks for passing it on!
Ah yes...the Ensoniq EPS16 Plus, I had one as well. The MODX is a great keyboard but its sequencer is quite limited. It is a pattern-based sequencer and definately doesn't have an "old school" workflow. The MODX (and Montage) are really performance synths. The sequencer it has came in an update and was only put in due to customers griping at the fact there was no onboard sequencer. Take it from a keyboardist who also owned an Ensoniq EPS16 Plus, you will be frustrated trying to record and mixdown entire arrangements if that is your frame of reference. I think you would be happier with a Roland FA workstation. It has great sounds and a traditional linear sequencer. I have recorded entire songs with that machine and it reminds me of an old school way of working, no DAW needed. Also the Korg Krome workstation has a traditional linear sequencer as well. The Yamaha is not a workstation at heart but a digital performance synth designed to be used with a DAW when you really want to do some serious recording. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching. I appreciate it.
@@darrickkeels6387 I'll take a good look at the Roland FA. Next week I'll be making a decision and update you with my choice. ThanQ!!
@@danjo2253 Did you decide on a keyboard?
@@darrickkeels6387 I sure did! I picked up the Roland FA 06 because it seem to fit my need and my budget! Also, it didn't take me too long to get familiar with it. I still have a lot to learn though. I'm actually a drummer who picked up the keys back in the 80's to be able to write my own vibes. You know how you're playing in a band and you hear something the guitar should be doing or the keys should be doing, but they never do! That's when I decided to get a little 4 track and start making it happen! Well I'm gonna see if there's any creativity left and make the best of it! ThanQ Darrick
I am really liking what I hear about the MODX. Do you know if the keybed on the MODX7 is a bit better?
No. The MODX6 and 7 have the same keybed.
Is the Yamaha MODX the Ultimate Value Synth? Most definitely yes!
I have the MODX8. It's capabilities are amazing. The potential for music and sound creativity is limitless!
Great review 👍
Have been using a Triton Extreme 61 as a top board for nearly twenty years. Looking for a lighter, more portable board and the MODX 6 could be the answer.
It’s just the keybed though. Have tried the MODX 7 and the keys I thought were light but fast. Could get used to them but the Yamaha FS action on the Triton takes some beating.
Yes. The MODX7 has the same keybed as the MODX6. I have gotten used to it...for the most part.
Awesome video, thanks. I'm seriously considering either an MODX6 plus a nice new DP (P-515 or RD-88) rather than just another new stage piano (CP-88 or RD-2000). I've always had stage pianos (currently an MP7) and never had a two-tier setup before, but it feels like this would be more flexible. Are there any downsides to purely driving this with a separate DP's keyboard? Will the patches respond even better to a good quality keybed via MIDI? Often I'll be playing somewhere that already has a decent digital piano, so the thought of just having to bring a MODX6 and hook up with MIDI cables, and leaving the 'piano' at home is really tempting. Cheers!
always find the keyboard feel them connect sounds either internal or external. make sure the keyboard has the level of control you want. ootherwise you wind up with boxes all over the place. i suggest you start by using the digital piano available at the venue, take a korg nanocontrol2 and rack modules for synth or other sounds. then decide what you wish you had to make your workflow easier for you.
Hello everyone. I would like an honest opinion from fellow keyboard players out there. I have done my research and I definitely want the sounds from the modx. But.. I know the keybeds from me reading reviews are not so good. So I have an idea.. how about having the modx6 on top, and as my main piano on the bottom, the studiologic sl88 grand keyboard controller. From my personal opinion, I think it’s a pretty good idea! The great sounds from the modx plus Keyboard action on top and my sl88 grand for my main pianos and e pianos etc, what y’all think? Doing this for church performances
Derrick..what model is that? 6..7.. or 8.. the 8 has graded hammer action
I have the 6. The MODX8 has a decent keybed.
@@darrickkeels6387 cool thanks.. I just bought an 8 one for 1500 mint condition..hardly used..and in same box..
My wife and I are trying out the MODX7 on 45 day trial from Guitar Center. She is the keys player. Only had about a week and we’re boomers and not very tech savvy so just starting to get into the manual. We’re in 60’s - 80’s band and Im looking for better brass, violin, guitar, 80’s synth sounds, etc. than what we have now (Hammond SK1). Also, one main thing I want is a sequencer and my understanding is that with updates, (2.0 or 2.5 or something?), it added a sequencer. But some comments here sound like they’re saying it doesn’t have a sequencer or a “full” sequencer anyway. Whats the difference between what this has and a “real” sequencer? Thanks.
It has a "pattern" sequencer - like older hardware sequencers where you build songs by layering looped patterns - rather than a linear left-to-right sequencer like Cubase or Logic on a computer. You can chain patterns together to make songs. A pattern sequencer isn't visual, you don't see events on a timeline. Yamaha figured most people would rather use a computer these days so MODX integrates really well with Cubase in particular, which Yamaha now own. I think you'll be really pleased with the sounds compared to the SK1. It does however have quite a steep learning curve because it's so deep. The manual is pretty brief. I learnt to use the MODX properly by just searching on TH-cam for tutorials. Enjoy!
@@jimharris6389 Thank you for providing that answer.
I meant to add: the basic functions, selecting/searching/combining sounds, adding fx etc aren't complicated. They're pretty straightforward
Hello, can you elaborate on this 45 day trial? Is this like a rental? Or are you saying that you paid full price and can return it if you don't like it?
@@jimharris6389 thnank you.
GOT A QUESTION FOR YA ABOUT THE MODX. IT HAS ALL OF THE SAME SOUNDS. BUT WHY IS IT SO MUCH WEAKER THATN THE MONTAGE. DO YOU HAVE ANY FIX FOR THIS? OR DO I HAVE TO GO IN AND MANULLY TWEAK THIS MYSELF? IF SO DO YOU HAVE A VIDEO SHOWING HOW TO DO THIS?
Thanks for your review. I was debating between the Nord Electro 6D vs MODX6. How would you rate the MODX sounds compared to the KRONOS
The MODX is a more rounded keyboard than the Nord Electro 6. The Electro is great for Clavs, EP's, Acoustic Piano, Organs and some light synth stuff. But if you need lead guitars, bass, drums, horns, strings, woodwinds, etc you will find the Nords are lacking high quality sounds in those departments (well they do have great strings but they are limited to 34 voice polyphony.) Also layering and split capabilities on the Nord is limited too. Simple, easy to use, practical but limited nonetheless. Now to your actual question...LOL...I think in terms of sound quality the MODX and the Kronos are equals. There are sounds like better in the Kronos (like the EP's). But there are sounds I like better on the MODX (i.e electric guitars). What really separates these two instruments is their other capabilities and workflows. The Kronos is more "powerful." A full-featured sequencer, sampler, 9 sound engines versus 2, a 60 GB SSD for storing sounds/samples, more robust setlist functionality, etc. However, it really comes down to your needs. If you have Kronos money you should probably be looking at the Montage instead. Do you need a full-featured sequencer on your keyboard? Do you do a lot of sampling? Do you have complicated sounds that require you to have access to 16 sounds all at once versus 8? If the answer to these questions is no, you may not need all the "extra power" of the Kronos. The Kronos touch screen and user interface is very dated but gets the job done. If you are just comparing sounds however that will come down to your personal opinion.
Also Kronos is sooo long in the tooth now Korg must surely be superceding it soon. Both Yamaha and Roland have updated their flagships - Montage and the new Fantom. Kronos is still very capable but Korg could drop a succesor at any moment.
The Kronos has more engines than the MODX or Montage, but I'm largely unimpressed with those engines such as the organ modeling, and was never much of a fan of the MS-20, Poly6, etc. I think the sampling engines are the most important along with the FM ability, and either Korg or Yamaha stack up pretty well. I use my MODX for sampling & FM, and my soft synths for engines of famous analog synths I actually cared about, like those from Moog, Oberheim, Roland & ARP. And I use organ modeling on the laptop that is generally a lot better than what the Kronos provides.
So my advice is buy the light weight, affordable MODX and get a laptop and soft synths to fill any gaps and you'll come out ahead of the Montage.
Using a MODX6 with an SY85 and it's a glorious combo.
Holy cow, you still have a SY85? That was the first synthesizer I owned, back in 1993. Sold it when I got a Triton Extreme (and sampled my favorite SY85 voices for nostalgia).
@@janosKern1 I have 2.. 😜
There’s also a converter online that lets you convert .Sysex/Syx (DX-7) files so that you can use it on the modx and montage
Cool overview!! My opinion is exactly the same. I still haven't bought one of them (MODX or Montage 6) because it's a hard decision since I currently have a MoXF 6. I hate the MODX keybed and I don't like how the MODX looks (= pretty cheap and simple). But my biggest argument against the Montage is the weight... I don't want to carry this! So I still have to think about it :)
I completely understand.😂😂😂
I am exactly in the same situation and I don't understand why Yamaha does not release a Rack version, would make everybody happy.
Good review. My personal choice was for the Roland Fantom, but there is no doubt that the MODX is an incredible value!
Yamaha should be giving you a commission. You just sold another one. Great Video 🙏
I wish they were. Congratulations on your purchase BTW.
In term of factory preset sounds, the MODX/Montage beats them all it's so versatile.
I tend to agree. I like the preset sounds on my MODX more than my other keyboards
Is this better than the older moxf?
Doesn't the MoDx8 offer fully-weighted (piano) keys?
Yes
How does the piano sound? When I compared this with MX88 there’s much difference. Il confused between MX88 and MODX. I’m keenly looking at good pianos and synth.
Way better. The MX88 has the sounds from the Motif Classic.
But it doesn't contain a fully-functioned sequencer, does it?
No it doesn't. Neither does it have a sampler. But that's okay because Yamaha considers it a synthesizer not a workstation.
@@darrickkeels6387 Is it possible for a workstation or digital synthesizer to have the ability to change voice combinations/splits like Electones/Arrangers? I want features in synths and arrangers in the meantime. :(
great review Derrick!
sorry Darrick - I need new reading glasses
@@fergusfurlong Thank you. I appreciate it. So funny I almost decided not to upload it. I am glad I did.
@@darrickkeels6387 I'm glad and appreciate that you did
thanx for the video Bought the MODX Nov 2019.. can't stand the piano...months of tweaking..any suggestions..ended up adding the Motif ES Rack with plg piano ex board to fix...
The sad reality is you simply may not like the character of the sound. However, have you tried going to the element level and starting with the raw piano samples and building a piano from "scratch" yourself?
You can't find a version of the modelled pianos you like? This thing is a beast. I mean the touch of this cheap action is never going to work. But sonically. This thing can do anything.
@@darrickkeels6387 yes I have and I have gotten a sound more usable, BUT still thin. Sounds brittle on first hitting notes like a toy piano. the character of the sound just isn't full rounded to me. thanx for your suggestion
@@darrickkeels6387 Did you tried the Bösendorfer Piano? You have to dig around a for a free code for it.