How To Pillar Bed A Rifle
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In this video, Ray from Moss Pawn & Guns goes over the process of pillar bedding a rifle in order to achieve a solid foundation for consistent accuracy. The process shown on the CZ 455 in this video can be used for many other bedding projects on heavier recoiling rifles than a rimfire using the same or very similar process. If you are interested in learning more consider a degree in gunsmithing from Sonoran Desert Institute, check out the link above for more info. Stay tuned, much more on the way.
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We need more of Ray :D
Agreed
No kidding! Ray should have his own youtube channel! Very detailed and very well done video and Ray is a stud in front of the camera!
Amen. He is a really nice guy when you meet him in person. They have always treated me great and Ray will not blow smoke. He is polite but tells it like it is when you ask him about a problem.
I'll do mine with a accraglass gel and float barrel
Yeah he's a boss
Now that was 38.29 well spent minutes i or i should say we really appreciate all the time effort it takes to make a video like this. Like i said in a video eric made about cleaning a Martini Henry rifle your videos are so easy to understand the where what when and how.you guys put A T I gunsmithing videos to shame.
Now i have to figure out how to put my smith and wesson model 39 back together lol.
Bill, your praise of the Iraqveteran 8888 team in putting together this great video is well founded.
Ray is a great teacher. He's easy to understand and patient. I could really learn from a lot from him.
thanks for the video, i am from germany and just moved to the states, as you guys allready know as i can see from your german gunlaw video, the restrictions there for gunownership were really bad and i as gun enthusiast never had the chance to own rifles untill now and therefore i appreciate this video even more since im about to buy my first rifle and build it together on my own.
marcelgowa
Willkommen
marcelgowa why did you move and how
I think he just put his stuff into a suitcase and hopped on a plane.
BobiEd779 Why depends on many things like work, school, etc and how is just apply for starter's (visa). There is more paperwork and different types of applications if you want to stay longer. If you want to live in the US for the rest of your life, you need to been year for a number of years, take a test, and apply for it. I was born in the US so I don't know whole process but you can Google it if you want to.
marcelgowa i wish i could do the same, greetings from the uk, i moved to the uk from Germany, i would like have the same freedom like it's in the USA, sorry for my bad English.
Beautiful work! Also, you've provided the best explanation and description of a bedding job I've ever heard. Thanks very much for this!
I could listen to Ray all day long, he has a great voice and explains things very well. We need more Ray and gunsmithing vids...
Considering that action screw torque is measured in "inch pounds" I've found that pneumatic hose barbs (brass) are more than adequate for pillars. EASILY cut, drilled out / turned down (if need be) by merely chucking it up in a cordless drill and holding a bastard cut file against it at an approximate 20° angle, then using "quick set" JB WELD as the adhesive.
MINWAX furniture polish with a light coat of WD40 is an excellent release agent.
PLAYDOUGH is great for filling & protecting areas that aren't intended to be filled or used to create dams.
STEEL STICK is an excellent medium for bedding the chamber portion of a barrel (my method is to double layer tape the underside of the barrel at the chamber area., masking tape 1st then aluminum tape on top of that and a coat of WD40 for release agent. After set time remove tapes and "skim" coat with JB WELD (not quick set) to bed chamber to stock.
You'll find this to be a more economical way of achieving the same thing. If you've got multiple pew-pews that you want to do this too you'll love the low cost.
Ray is always on par! We need more like this with Ray!!
This guy really knows what he's doing. He didn't butcher it like some other youtubers
Probably the best video IV8888 has ever produced!
Well done fellas!
Please more of this.
that was fascinating. Thanks!
Got a few things in here I don't think is the best way or at least the best way for me , but a few things in here are gold .. thx for taking the time to share.
Glad to see Ray back on the channel. A great wealth of knowledge.
croc wearin', sig- totin', gun smithin'
rays awesome
Ray is the man! I've known him a long time. He's a good dude!
Sometimes it is a green Kel-Tec PMR30 and I saw that rifle this morning when I was paying on a Lay-Away. The Cerakote job they did is flawless. KGMade is getting a 455 Varmint to work on next.
I love when this guy does his vids, he's very knoledgable and teaches very well too.
A master-bedding kit, you say
I pillar bedded a .308 Savage Axis to a Boyds stock with some Arcaglass last year. It is probably the number one 'best' improvement I could have ever made.
I have a Boyds stock on the way for my Ruger Gunsite Scout Rifle. Would you'd say bedding is worth the time/money? How did the rifle perform with the stock without the bedding? (if you shot it before bedding)
David Exton I've pillar bedded my REM. 700 varmint and my sako L61R with match grade bedding from terminal ballistics and I would recommend anyone who is useful with their hands to do it my Rem 700 can headshot a grasshopper at 100yds on store bought ammo and I haven't done anything else to it.
I have really enjoyed watching the quality, pro pillar work in this instructional video. Everyone who is considering doing a bedding job on their rifle should go into the task watching work like this right here. This type for work isn't well suited for the guy who gets frustrated easily when things arent going well or have minimal exposure to precision shop work. I have seen people wreck the accuracy that they once had with their stock rifle, due to not completing quality work and guys who didn't fully understand bedding concepts. I can be a nightmare if you don't take the time to set up correctly and do it methodical and precise work. God bless you sir!
for what it's worth I absolutely love the gunsmithing videos. please keep them coming.
Very good work. Congratulations. Although I did not use these products, I did it my way, but following their technique, and my CZ 455 Ultramatch, grouped from 3/4" to 1/4". Thank you.
Excellent!
Well done Ray!
Simple, clean, well edited and articulated.
I read the header as “How to pillar a bed rifle” and was expecting something completely different. Still a great and educational video.
It's a joy to see a master at work.
Love Ray's smith videos more than any other Iv8888 videos besides the meltdown vids.
I use plain old Play-Doh for dams and preventing locks, very cheap and in bright colors. If I need regular epoxy to wick into an area or if I'm working with thick compounds like Acraglas and want to make sure it flows a little bit I use a heat gun here and there. Johnson's Paste Wax in the metal tin makes a great release agent, just put it on with a flux brush or something similar.
There is some great firearm content online, and IV8888, Mark & Anvil & now this is some of the best. More, we want more. Keep the good stuff coming.
MORE RAY
These videos are great, Ray is an excellent teacher. Clear instructions and explanations, and he just talks to you. More of these videos would be great.
Good to see Ray again. Always a pleasure to learn from him.
I'm just getting into learning about better accuracy and this is broken down and shown so anybody with some common sense and a handful of tools could figure out. Probably going to be the 1st mod on my new 10/22. Thanks you.
As everyone has said, awesome video. More gunsmithing videos with Ray.
tip for the shop: you can buy filers with all different levels of grit from beauty shops. They intend them to be for nails obviously but it saves you from having to make them out of tongue depressors and sand paper
Great 💡
This was AWESOME! Ray is the Bob Ross of the Gun Smith world. lol ("And I think we'll file a pretty little champer right here") LOVE THESE VIDEO'S.... Thank You.
Really detailed, you're going to be my fourth Patreon channel. I have bedded 4 rifles but not tried piller bedding, my question is how do you determine the height of the piller?
It is a pleasure watching a professional work.
Loved these old videos
Not that I would do it but was COOL to watch and learn.
I watched all of this video. Looks like I need a couple cheap rifles to practice on. Seems time consuming yet not to challenging at all. Thanks Ray! You make it look simple👊
A true craftsman.
Good vedio. 1.5 million at 10:10 am. People are hungry for this type of info. Good to learn from a master tech. Please up the volume on next vedio.
Jerry Guerra - I think you're looking at the number of channel subscribers by mistake..
The video only has 4,400 views as of now.
Love the gunsmithing vids keep em comming
Thanks Ray! I often wondered about this subject, but never enough to go looking for the info. Being on this channel, which I check daily, gave me the chance to see it. Cool!
I really enjoyed this video. Nice to see someone American take a little a little pride in there work. Very nice!
How to pillar bed a rifle, with Bob Ross
Fuddy Duddy that's exactly what I was thinking! It's a great video, Ray has probably forgotten more gunsmith knowledge than I will ever know (and that's a complement, for the slow folks), and his voice crosses over into ASMR territory for sure...which is another plus
Gonna put this happy little pillar right here with some of this happy bedding compound,happy happy happy😂😂😂😂
Ray,.... Try PR88 you put it on like hand cleaner,....... before you start,...... it dries and you do the job and when you wash your hands with water everything comes right off.
And you can wipe the inner stock and epoxy down with linseed oil to seal it from moisture and humidity and it makes everything the same color.
More gunsmithing with ray he has a ton of knowledge
Brownells is the first site I choose when I'm looking for masterbedding
You make this look SO EASY....I am wanting to do this on my Savage Axis Deer rifle but it scares me....a stock upgrade for it is so EXPENSIVE though and will still need this done.
So nice to watch a real craftsman, thanks Ray!
Please do a video on pillow and glass bedding a Sako 75 and 85 thanks
Well done video! First time I've watched one of Ray's videos. As someone else mentioned Ray does remind me of Bob Ross from the PBS painting series.
best gun vid Ive seen in ages!! I learned something today!!! I'm not as stupid as my mom once thought... Thanks Ray
I've watched tons of these, and nobody tells you how much room to leave inside the pillar. As far as clearance for the screws. This should matter to somebody.
Fantastic job!
Thanks for all the wonderful knowledge
Glad to see Ray again!
hes a master bedder.
I thank you from the bottom of my heart for taking the time to show us and make this fascinating video, I learned so much.
Thank you very much for your demonstration beautiful job I’ll be watching thank you again sir!
This is so soothing to watch lol
it's like ASMR for men
Nicely done and a great encouraging and reassuring voice to go with it. I'm getting ready to try this with not nearly as many of the nice tools you have on hand!
Love it!! My favourite video is still the martini Henry clean up, so satisfying!
Beautiful Job
Top notch Ray. Big fan of Mark on C&Rsenal also. We need more smithing Eric. 1 gunsmithing question to do with headspace:
If you had to use just one of the go, no go and field gauges, which one would safely work the best for milsurps? Thanks in advance, Sean
Love you guys!!!
Mark taught us as a guest instructor at Piedmont Technical College School of Classical Gunsmithing. Amazing wood worker/checkerer and a hilarious guy. Fun learning from him
I pretty sure the "field" gauge is the on that you DON'T want your bolt to close on . Bolt close on the "go gauge" = good.
Bolt close on "no go" = may be bad
Bolt close on a "field gauge" headspace is too much.
Sadly, this kit is no longer available.
Rayyyyy!!! Good to see u!👍
I enjoyed the bedding lesson very much.
Awesome video Ray seems like such a down to earth guy.
Another great tutorial video , thanks to Ray, Eric and the guys. Thanks very much.
Good job Ray ! Love your videos .
Hi Ray
I noticed you did not do anything to the wood finish other than drill out the holes. It helps to use a dremel on the wood, because or the finish and to allow the bedding compound to adhere to the wood.
Thanks!
Sweet. I have a cz 452 lux .17 hmr that this would be a great upgrade on. Excellent vid
Love these infoRaytional videos!
Love the ray d vids... more please
Thank you Ray. excellent vid, I would like to see more of these.
I can't believe he didn't put tape on the wood stock before the glass.
You might be a bodyman.
Two Questions: (1) With the pillar holes larger than the pillars allowing slight rotation of the action, how do you make sure the action is left-right level when you bed? (2) between 21:25 and 23:00, what happened to the trigger assembly?
That's what I was thinkin' too... like why not use the trigger housing as a 'clamp' to squeeze it together after applying it to around the pillars.
Ray, I wish I had watched this video before pillar & glass bedding my CZ 455 Varmit in .2WMR. Your explanation for using the Brownell's Steel Bed was helpful- I have been using Acru-Glass.The notch on the front pillar for the magazine well is important for clearance and alignment. I would like to see a video of how well this rifle performs after the bedding. ? Ray, I greatly appreciate your explanation through out this video.
Very informative Ray. Thank you. And I am sure Chad is a happy camper, too!
Great video, thanks for all the herd work to make this so clear!
Lookin good ray! Appreciate these videos.
Interesting and informative. Great video.
Great video! Also I haven't seen Ray in a while, that new haircut and goatee makes it look like he lost about 10 years, looking Sharp dude!
I am a recent SDI graduate, of the associates' degree program, I'm thinking this,video will end up in their stock classes'
Sweet as hell. Nice job
Greatly Appreciated!
KnifeMaker
Ray looks like a badass version of that Mythbusters guy when he has those glasses on
Great vid.... so the barrel is free floated at the same time?
Makes a ton of common sense.
Great tutorial.
Ok that looks like a lot of fun
Nicely done, and good commentary. Ever used JB Weld as a bedding compound?
how much do gunsmith typically charge to do this? looks way more precise than I would be capable of.
Great video for learning. Thanks for posting.
Great job Ray
Best to not keep dipping your applicator in the release bottle, pour an estimated amount in a disposable cup,
Ray,
Great informational video, thanks.
Man that’s a great video
"Master Bedding" at it's finest.
Great video. Why not put the bottom metal on when bedding? That way you wouldn't have to put it on the drill press and mill away material to get it back to the correct specs.
Just watch the gunnytime good show man
Such a Great Video , thank you so much .
Thanks for the video, Ray!